Ep. 1666 - Public Health “Experts” Want To Legitimize This Barbaric Practice In The Name Of Multiculturalism
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The Catholic Church banned marriages between first cousins in the Middle Ages, which led to a dramatic drop in the number of marriages between cousins. But was this a good or bad thing? And was it really that bad? Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the so-called public health experts in the UK have decided that actually, maybe incest isn t so bad after all.
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Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the so-called public health experts in the UK have decided that actually maybe incest isn't so bad after all.
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Welcoming the third world through mass migration means welcoming third world practices is just the latest example.
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It would be extraordinarily time-consuming, if not impossible, to even attempt to list all the ways that Christianity is responsible for the creation and development of Western civilization as we know it.
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All of these achievements, of course, trace to many different individual causes, contributions of many individual Christian nations, leaders, monasteries, universities, the Crusades, and so on.
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But there was one Christian innovation that all by itself had a direct, observable, and enduring impact on the trajectory of Western civilization.
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And while this particular innovation isn't discussed very much, or at least it hasn't been discussed very much in recent history because we haven't had to discuss it, well, that's about to change.
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I'm talking about the Catholic Church's decision around the 6th century to ban marriages between first cousins.
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Once the Church banned first cousin marriages in the Middle Ages, along with marriages among step-relatives, in-laws, and godparents, the West began rapidly pulling ahead of the rest of the world.
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And make no mistake about it, the Church's influence was indeed the primary reason why Europeans stopped marrying their relatives.
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The other major religions were expressly endorsing all kinds of incestuous relationships, and the statistics bear this out.
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You can see it from this graphic, which is up on the screen now, which is from a paper in the journal Science called
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The Church Intensive Kinship and Global Psychological Variation.
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And for every 500 years that a country was under the influence of the Western Church, which, you know, the Roman Catholic Church, there was a 90% reduction in marriage rates among cousins.
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Meanwhile, where the Western Church wasn't dominant, incest was rampant.
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Persians were marrying their own siblings in addition to their own cousins.
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Even the Eastern Orthodox Church, which did ban incest, wasn't as strict as the Western Church.
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So, what specifically were the consequences of banning cousin marriage?
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By the way, there's a reason we're talking about this. We'll get to it in a second.
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Intuitively, you could probably answer that question.
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If you have any familiarity with, say, Somalia, then you get the basic idea.
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In-breeding lowers IQs. It results in many problems, deformities, strange facial structures.
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It also results in dramatically increased rates of genetic abnormalities, including terminal illnesses.
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By common estimates, marrying a first cousin more than doubles your risk of severe disorders.
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One study from 2002 showed that Pakistani children accounted for one-third of birth defects in the UK,
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even though they only made up 4% of all the births at the time in the country.
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A more recent study from 2013 found that more than a third of children born with birth defects in the UK
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came from first cousin marriages, which were primarily Pakistani marriages.
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And by one estimate, more than half of Pakistani marriages involved incestuous relationships of some kind.
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Now, you probably learn the relevant biology in high school.
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Children get two copies of every gene from their parents, one from their mother, one from their father.
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And generally speaking, if one recessive copy of a gene is corrupted, then it's not a big deal.
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But if both parents carry a recessive copy of the bad gene,
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then there's a 25% chance that the child will receive both bad copies.
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First cousins, by definition, share grandparents, which means that they share roughly 12% of their DNA.
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So if one cousin has the recessive gene from a serious disorder and marries his first cousin who also has the recessive gene,
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there's a 1 in 8 chance that their offspring will have the disorder.
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And therefore, marrying your first cousin drastically increases the risk that your child will have a severe abnormality
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as compared to marrying a random member of the general population.
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Now, nevertheless, in many cultures to this day, it's taboo to acknowledge any of this.
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Even when parents have a child who's clearly suffering because of inbreeding,
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they're often hesitant to say anything about it.
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This is from a documentary that aired in the UK a few years ago.
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It's some of those painful footage you'll see. Watch.
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He's 17 years old and lives with his mum, Parveen.
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He has to take a powerful cocktail of medications to help him get through his day,
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He has a rare genetic condition called propionic acidemia.
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He lacks an enzyme that breaks down protein in the body.
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Azmat was diagnosed at 15 months old and was one of the youngest children in the UK ever to have a liver transplant.
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When Azmat was first diagnosed, his doctors told Parveen that his rare liver condition was hereditary.
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By marrying her first cousin, she and her husband increased the chances of passing the disease on to their children.
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Azmat's rare condition is progressive and his body is slowly deteriorating.
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Azmat helps out in his mum's school and babyware shop.
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When he's not at college, he works on the shop floor, deals with customers and mans the till.
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He's more like, I would say, a 14-year-old than an 18-year-old, mentally, you know.
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Despite what Azmat's mum has been told about the cause of his illness, she struggles to accept it.
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I don't think there's anything wrong in first cousin marriages, because it's our culture and it's the norm, really.
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But having said that, it did put me off having more to my ex-husband now.
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But, you know, because I couldn't go through that again.
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Quote, I don't think there's anything wrong in first cousin marriages.
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She says that despite the fact that, you know, her child is mentally and physically disabled for life because she married her cousin.
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This is how entire civilizations developed when they didn't follow the guidance of the church.
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Even though they knew about the dangers of incest, how couldn't they?
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They persisted anyway, because, you know, that's their culture.
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And in the absence of Christianity, this kind of culture won out.
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Marcin Achter is 17 years old and lives with his family in Bradford.
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He's blind, he can't walk properly, and needs round-the-clock care.
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Both sisters have inherited the same disease as Marcin.
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All three children have an extremely rare genetic disorder called mucolypidosis type 4.
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Their bodies cannot get rid of waste products properly, affecting everyday brain function from vision to movement.
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The potential consequences of first-cousin marriages are tragic and devastating.
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Five of their daughters died in childhood, and three of my uncles were born deaf.
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At the time, no one knew why, because the facts were not known.
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Today, the medical facts are established, but the practice continues.
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Now, the church put an end to this barbarism at scale.
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They saved millions of children from suffering a fate like this.
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And that's not because they had access to studies or data, as that report suggests.
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It's because they knew that incest was a great moral evil.
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Also, they had working eyes and ears, and they could see the consequences.
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But there were other important consequences of the church's ban as well.
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Yes, many more Europeans were born without crippling genetic disorders,
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and it obviously benefited many Western nations for many generations.
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But there were other, more subtle benefits as well.
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In that paper I mentioned earlier from Science Magazine, the researchers explained some of these benefits.
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In other words, when a lot of people are marrying their own cousins,
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society tends to be much more insular, collectivist, conformist,
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When you're not intermingling with other people,
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when your marriages only take place within your own family,
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It's less important to have a functioning government.
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People become suspicious of anyone outside the family,
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The result is stagnation at both the genetic level and with respect to society at large.
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You look at countries in South Asia like Pakistan.
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They see a highly disproportionate number of genetic disorders as a result of inbreeding.
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Again, all this was conventional wisdom for a very long time.
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No one really talked about the dangers of inbreeding
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or the role of the Catholic Church in banning inbreeding
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This was a conversation that we didn't need to have.
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But that has changed now, thanks to mass migration.
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In some corners of the West, it's apparently not common sense anymore.
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Certain countries have now imported so many third world aliens,
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mostly from countries that practice inbreeding,
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that they're now openly endorsing the practice of marrying your cousin.
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Yes, in a decade where public health authorities have systematically discredited themselves
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Somehow, that bar has just been lowered even further.
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So in Britain, the government-run National Health Service
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And what they were doing in the guidance was essentially promoting cousin marriage.
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Guidance published last week by the NHS England's Genomics Education Program
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says first cousin marriage is linked to stronger extended family support systems
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The NHS guidance points out the practice has been legal in the UK since the 1500s
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as a loophole for King Henry VIII to marry Catherine Howard, his ex-wife's cousin.
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And before we go any further with this article, I need to stop here for a second.
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The NHS is saying that because King Henry married his ex-wife's cousin in the 1500s,
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therefore we should permit cousin marriage today.
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First of all, King Henry had no genetic relationship with his ex-wife's cousin.
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The risk of passing along a genetic disorder due to inbreeding, therefore, was not elevated.
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Secondly, even if King Henry had married a first cousin,
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it still wouldn't obviously justify endorsing the idea as a general principle
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The only possible explanation here is that for political reasons,
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the NHS is scrambling to find some way to endorse, promote,
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rationalize inbreeding, no matter how dishonest it may be.
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After all, they have to appease all of their new constituents from the third world.
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So presumably, pretty soon we can expect some official guidance from the British government
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Ritual sacrifices, you know, maybe not such a bad thing.
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Well, let's continue with the Telegraph's report on the NHS's guidance
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because the logical fallacies keep on coming, as you might expect.
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The document mentions that marriage between cousins has long been the subject of scientific discussion
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based on the slight increase in the risk of inheriting diseases.
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It also adds that there are other things that increase the risk of this, too,
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such as alcohol, smoking, and parental age, none of which are banned in the UK.
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Say, genetic counseling, awareness-raising initiatives, and public health campaigns
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are all important tools to help families make informed decisions
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without stigmatizing certain communities and cultural traditions.
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According to the Daily Mail, the NHS guidance also states that,
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quote, in the general population, a child's chance of being born with a genetic condition
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This increases to 4% to 6% in children of first cousins.
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Hence, most children of first cousins are healthy.
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They're implying that doubling the risk of genetic abnormalities is no big deal
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because, after all, it's apparently legal to smoke and drink while you're pregnant in the UK.
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But that is obviously not an argument for allowing first cousin marriages.
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It's, if anything, an argument for not allowing people to smoke and drink while they're pregnant.
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What we're seeing here from the NHS is something that's become very common in recent years.
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Organizations that are supposed to focus on public health and only on public health
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are making political arguments instead, and legal arguments.
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The NHS should not be in the business of crafting gotcha arguments to justify inbreeding.
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Which is also something that I, like, these are all things that shouldn't need to be said.
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This whole conversation, we shouldn't need to have it.
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What they should be talking about is science and data, and that's it.
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And by the way, when it comes to inbreeding, the science and data are very clear.
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It's just, there's no, there's nothing to talk about, or there shouldn't be.
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But because incestuous marriages are common in many of the cultures that the UK and also the US
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import by the millions every year, the NHS has decided to publish political propaganda instead.
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They've decided that their job is not to warn about the dangers of this disgusting practice,
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but instead to find some way to justify it, defend it, rationalize it, normalize it.
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They've apparently pulled, this guidance that we're talking about, after all the backlash
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that you would anticipate, they've apparently pulled it now from their website.
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But we all know the British government hasn't changed its mind or its goals.
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Because as mass migration continues, we will be pulled further backwards into the kinds
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of primitive practices that our ancestors abandoned millennia ago.
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In fact, in this country, several states, including California, Vermont, and Massachusetts, still
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In Connecticut, they're just getting around now to outlawing it.
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This is a news report from just a few days ago.
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Believe it or not, you are allowed to marry your first cousin in Connecticut, but only
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On October 1st, a new law goes into effect, banning saying, I do, to your first cousin.
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It's something Democrat and Republican lawmakers agreed on earlier this year.
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Tom Kelly is bringing home flowers to both his wife and sister, who's getting married today
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And in less than two weeks, no one will be able to marry their first cousin.
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I mean, I would have never thought about marrying my first cousin.
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I did get married, not to my cousin, though, last year.
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In a world where political parties seem to disagree on just about everything, the bill
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to not keep it in the family passed unanimously this year.
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The reason, procreation between first cousins increases the chances of birth defects.
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It's just so wrong because of the birth defects.
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Starting October 1st, you won't be able to marry your first cousin.
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Now, notice that everyone they interview in Connecticut, including the random guy that
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they conduct an extended interview with, who's forced to clarify that he's not marrying
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his cousin, has exactly the same opinion on incestuous relationships like this, that
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As you just heard, for now, this is a rare topic in this country where there is unanimous
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Now, the only way that will change is if, like the UK, we continue to import foreigners,
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third-worlders, until our country is unrecognizable.
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There's a very strong argument, as we've discussed, that banning incestuous relationships is one of
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the primary reasons that the West evolved while the rest of the world stagnated.
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That's why the enemies of Western civilization want to legitimize first cousin marriages at
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That they know it will cement Western decline, just as surely as the bans on incest allowed
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And that's why I'll say, for the first time in the history of this show, that the federal
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We need a federal ban on first cousin marriages universally before the practice takes hold in
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in the various foreign enclaves in this country.
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A federal ban would protect children from suffering and dying from terrible genetic conditions.
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And it would communicate very clearly that, unlike the UK, the United States is still interested
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in preserving and defending Western civilization.
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So whenever the federal government is open and operational again, this is a no-brainer.
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Admittedly, there aren't many countries left in the world that would pass a ban like this.
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So, you know, one of the hardest things about having this job, about being in political media,
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one of my great struggles is that every year or multiple times a year, there will be a news
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There will be a very hysterical news cycle about a government shutdown, about either the
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government shutting down or an impending government shutdown.
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And, you know, if you're in my position as someone who does a political commentary show,
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And, you know, this is supposed to be, as they used to say in the radio business, topic
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Fox News reports, the federal government is officially entering a partial shutdown on
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Wednesday after the midnight funding deadline passed with Democrats and Republicans failing
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An early attempt by Senate Republicans to pass a short-term extension of fiscal year 2025
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called a continuing resolution was sunk by Democrats who were furious about being sidelined
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The bill, which would have given Congress until November 21st, passed the House largely along
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So the government is shut down only partially, unfortunately.
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Democrats are calling it the Republican shutdown.
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Republicans are calling it the Democrat shutdown.
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So everyone on the left saying, this is the Republican shutdown.
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And the Republicans are saying, nah, nah, it's the Democrat shutdown.
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And, you know, that's the same song and dance every time.
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And meanwhile, if you're a normal person, you would never know that the government shut
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That's why, that's why they have to scream about it from the rooftops because otherwise
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If you weren't, if you, if you weren't told about it, you wouldn't know.
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Like going about your daily life, there would, you wouldn't encounter anything that would
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make you say, huh, the federal government must be in a partial shutdown right now.
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I've just encountered this obstacle or inconvenience.
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This can only be because of the federal government is in a partial shutdown.
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You can go about your life for six months and the, there'd be a partial shutdown of the
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Uh, it would not impact your life in the slightest unless you're a federal bureaucrat, but for
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everybody else, this has no impact on anything.
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Your daily life is not impeded in the slightest.
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And yet every time this happens, we still get the same panic as if we haven't already been
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this through this before, as if we all have amnesia, which I guess a lot of people do these
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Um, and that's obviously why they're so panicked over a shutdown because they don't want you to
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notice that you don't notice when the government shuts down, because then you'll realize that
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there are wide swaths of the federal government that we can do without, um, not only do without,
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This one is more interesting in all the wrong ways.
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So the Archbishop of Chicago, uh, Cardinal Cupich plans to give a lifetime achievement award
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to Senator Dick Durbin and Senator Dick Durbin is a rabidly, he was a Democrat.
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And I was going to say he's a rabidly pro-abortion Democrat, but that's, uh, redundant.
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So he's rabidly pro, they don't make any other kind of Democrat these days.
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And that's raised a lot of concern, justified concern, outrage, justified outrage among Catholics.
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I mean, it's bad enough when the, when, when the Archbishop refuses to loudly condemn somebody
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like Dick Durbin, that's what should be happening.
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You should be rebuking him publicly, repeatedly.
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Not only do we not get that, but instead you're going the other direction.
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So the Pope, Pope Leo was asked to weigh in on this and I still haven't quite, it's still
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surreal to me that, uh, that, you know, the, the, the Pope can be asked a question now and
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we in America can listen to the answer and understand what he's saying without a translator.
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So it's the first time in history when that's been the case and it's good.
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And it's good because now we don't have to, you know, during, uh, Pope Francis, the reign
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of Pope Francis, he would often have these conversations with reporters and, but we, if
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you're, if you only speak English, you couldn't understand what he was saying.
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And so we would always, we were always be relying on translation and he would say all
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And often the things that he would say would be, um, you know, sort of, he would seem
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to be saying things that as a believing Catholic, you would find objectionable, but there was
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always, and it's, it's like a little bit obscure and so you were never quite sure.
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And they could always say, well, I was lost in translation.
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We can just listen to what this Pope, what Pope Leo was saying, which is good, but what's
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I just wanted to ask one thing that has become a bit of a divisive subject in the U.S.
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right now with Cardinal Cupich, um, giving an award to, um, Senator Durbin.
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Some people of faith are having a hard time with understanding this because he is pro, uh,
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I'm not terribly familiar with the particular case.
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Um, I think that it's very important to look at the overall work that a Senator has done
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during, if I'm not mistaken, 40 years of service in the United States Senate.
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I understand the difficulty and the tensions, but I think, um, as I myself have spoken in the
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past, it's important to look at many issues that are related to what is the teaching of
00:29:13.000
Someone who says I'm against abortion, but says I'm in favor of the death penalty is
00:29:19.020
So, uh, someone who says that, uh, I'm against abortion, but I'm in agreement with the, uh,
00:29:25.700
inhuman treatment of immigrants or in the United States, I don't know if that's pro-life.
00:29:32.460
I don't know if anyone has all the truth on them, but I would ask first and foremost that
00:29:38.100
there'd be greater respect for one another and that we search together both as human
00:29:43.860
beings, in that case, as American citizens or citizens of the state of Illinois, as well
00:29:49.540
as, as, uh, Catholics to say, we need to, you know, really look closely at all of these
00:29:54.740
ethical issues and, and to find the way forward as church church teaching on each one of those
00:30:11.840
As a Catholic, I wouldn't sit here and be pedantic and pick the Pope apart just to prove that
00:30:21.060
I don't, I don't want to, well, actually the Pope, well, actually Pope Leo, but actually,
00:30:29.900
let me tell you, um, just kind of smug, you know, correcting someone.
00:30:41.240
But what he said, his answer is just fundamentally bad.
00:30:46.860
It's fundamentally bad and wrong and it's potentially deeply confusing for a lot of people.
00:30:56.400
It just has to be, I know there are still, there, there are some Catholics, some, you
00:31:06.440
So these are people I relate to in so many ways, but for some very conservative Catholics,
00:31:11.480
Catholics, they take the view that as a Catholic, like myself in the public eye, I just should
00:31:17.840
not be publicly, uh, criticizing the Pope at all.
00:31:24.280
That's the, that's the view of some, some very conservative Catholics.
00:31:36.560
But when you have the Pope saying stuff like this.
00:31:41.480
Well, we're just going to, we're just going to let it sit out there.
00:31:44.200
We're going to let it, you know, just like, let it go unopposed.
00:31:58.580
Now it would be one thing if we could rely on, um, church leadership a little bit farther
00:32:06.000
down the ladder to speak up in these scenarios and offer clarification.
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And so it relies on just normal people to speak up and say, this is wrong.
00:32:27.840
He says that if you're against abortion, but in favor of the death penalty, then you
00:32:37.960
I mean, first of all, God himself prescribes the death penalty in the Bible.
00:32:46.520
I mean, this is why you cannot, as a Christian, take the position that the death penalty is
00:32:50.860
fundamentally or inherently immoral or inherently, you know, anti-life, which is the same thing
00:33:04.240
So if you believe the death penalty is fundamentally wrong or anti-life, you're either saying that
00:33:07.840
God is guilty of a moral crime, or you're saying that the Bible does not accurately record,
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And both of those claims are themselves inadmissible for a Catholic.
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You know, Pope Francis said infamously that the death penalty is inadmissible.
00:33:26.980
What is actually inadmissible is to call it inadmissible for the reason I just described.
00:33:35.960
Now, you can argue the death penalty shouldn't be used anymore.
00:33:40.460
You can argue that things have changed, that you can argue that our circumstances are different.
00:33:51.380
But to make any kind of fundamental moral claim about the death penalty itself is to offer
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Well, if that's your answer, then you just don't.
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Like, this is, like, basic Christian teaching you don't understand.
00:34:12.260
You don't understand the basics of, like, how to read the Bible.
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That the stuff in the Old Testament is just like, ah, it doesn't count anymore.
00:34:34.220
And God, again, prescribes the death penalty in the Old Testament.
00:34:40.140
Which means that, like, again, you can make a lot of arguments.
00:34:43.380
It doesn't, like, that in and of itself, by itself, is not, uh, does not prove that necessarily
00:34:54.760
that we should have the death penalty, you know, in our country today.
00:35:01.440
Because you could try to make the, again, you can make the argument, well, the circumstances
00:35:04.760
But what you can't do is say that it's morally inadmissible, that it is, which is what Pope
00:35:13.700
Francis said, that it, it, it, it, it contradicts human dignity, which is what he said, that
00:35:20.040
it's anti-life, because these are, these, that's not a circumstantial argument about the death
00:35:25.040
You're talking about the death penalty fundamentally.
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You're making a fundamental argument about the death penalty itself.
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Which would mean that that would have applied thousands of years ago, too.
00:35:37.900
Which would mean that you're making a moral critique of God, and it's just, that's, like,
00:35:48.760
Um, so, that's, and also, by the way, when Pope Francis came along a few years ago and
00:35:56.900
said, actually, the death penalty is inadmissible.
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He was not only contradicting the word of God, but he was also contradicting 2,000 years
00:36:04.000
I mean, for 2,000 years, that was not the teaching of the church for 2,000 years.
00:36:08.440
And then Pope Francis came along, you know, approximately 12 and a half seconds ago and
00:36:12.200
said, nah, actually, actually, I've decided the whole thing is wrong.
00:36:15.740
Actually, the whole, 2,000 years of church teaching was wrong.
00:36:28.500
Um, and even putting all that aside, to, to draw a moral equivalence between executing
00:36:39.520
a convicted murderer after a fair trial, and then on the other hand, dismembering a child
00:36:53.980
Okay, these things, even if you're against the death penalty, clearly, these are not on
00:37:01.340
On the one hand, you are convicting someone who has committed a heinous crime in a country
00:37:10.300
where that person knows that that penalty exists.
00:37:12.940
They have volunteered themselves for this punishment by committing a crime that they knew had that
00:37:20.480
And then this is being, this, this penalty is being carried out by eight, by, by, you know,
00:37:32.820
On the other hand, you have a child in the womb who has committed no crime, is guilty
00:37:38.060
of nothing, there has been no trial, there has been nothing at all, and they are summarily
00:37:43.940
executed in a clinic by someone claiming to be a doctor.
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To draw any kind of equivalence between those two things is, you know what it is?
00:38:07.320
The death penalty is something that you do because you cherish and value the lives of
00:38:12.480
the innocent people who fall victim to these heinous, barbaric, animalistic predators.
00:38:22.300
If you really value, if you really truly value the lives of these innocent people, then, then
00:38:32.660
you would call for the ultimate penalty for anyone who takes someone's life, takes the
00:38:44.480
It says that someone who says I'm against abortion, but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment
00:38:48.240
of immigrants who are in the United States, I don't know if that's pro-life.
00:38:55.480
Who, what do you, who, who ever made that argument?
00:39:00.800
Who in America is arguing for inhuman treatment of immigrants?
00:39:07.340
You know, I've never heard anyone argue for inhuman treatment of immigrants.
00:39:14.320
I've never heard a single person say, you know what, we should treat, we should treat immigrants
00:39:22.400
So what sort of inhuman treatment is being inflicted on illegals?
00:39:30.440
You can't just come out and say, well, there are people in America that want to do inhuman
00:39:33.760
treatment of illegals or of immigrants without explaining like what, what exactly?
00:39:44.020
Are you saying that deporting an illegal immigrant is morally equivalent or even similar at all
00:39:54.720
And finally, I think the most disturbing part is when he says that these are complex issues.
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I don't know if anyone has all the truth on them.
00:40:09.320
I mean, on abortion, we don't have all the truth.
00:40:13.000
No, we definitely have all the, we have all the truth on abortion, all the truth.
00:40:16.220
There's no other truth to the abortion that we're waiting to find out.
00:40:31.840
What other truth is there that that is the truth of abortion?
00:40:35.560
It's like the truth of two plus two is that it equals four.
00:40:41.600
Um, and, and, and just, and it's just as obvious and, and inevitable to say that, uh,
00:40:48.440
killing a human child in the womb is a moral evil.
00:40:53.260
So like, what does that mean that we don't have all the truth?
00:40:56.260
And anyway, what does any of this have to do with the matter at hand?
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Even if everything that the Pope said in that statement made sense, that still wouldn't answer
00:41:08.220
Should the Archbishop of Chicago be giving an award to a guy who has spent 40 years in office
00:41:17.480
advocating for promoting and funding the murder of the unborn?
00:41:24.900
All the other stuff, like what does immigration have to do with it at all?
00:41:27.840
What does the death penalty have to do with it?
00:41:31.740
I mean, what are you, what are you trying to say that like, well, other people are bad
00:41:41.360
This is the Archbishop of Chicago giving a lifetime achievement award to a guy who has spent his
00:41:47.400
lifetime funding and promoting the mass slaughter of babies.
00:41:54.580
Why is it hard to say, no, we certainly should not be giving an award to that person.
00:42:01.740
I mean, he, this is someone who should be just excommunicated.
00:42:08.040
But if you're not going to do that, then why is it hard to say, well, obviously we're not
00:42:16.440
I mean, if you fund and facilitate the murder of one baby that should disqualify you from
00:42:21.800
ever beginning a lifetime achievement award from the Catholic church, but fund and facilitate
00:42:27.800
the murder of like hundreds, thousands, well, I, of course, what other thing could he have
00:42:40.960
And the only thing we hear as well, he's been in office for 40 years.
00:42:47.540
Since when is that, would you use that defense of what, like Pol Pot?
00:43:03.000
Well, Pol Pot, you know, he served for, served for many years.
00:43:10.840
So who's to say, who's to say, who, who are we to condemn?
00:43:22.460
You know, you might want to condemn genocide, genocide and, and, uh, in Cambodia, but if you're
00:43:32.000
in favor of impolite treatment to illegal immigrants, then, then who are you?
00:43:47.860
Um, and we just can't, you just, you can't have it.
00:43:52.900
We, we, you can't allow that to just stand unchallenged.
00:43:59.800
And you also can't, because even worse, you have some Catholics who they, they, and again,
00:44:05.540
I'm always talking here about conservative Catholics because the liberal quote unquote
00:44:08.880
Catholics, I don't, they're not really Catholic.
00:44:11.200
Uh, they don't count, but the conservative Catholics, even worse, some of them will feel
00:44:19.320
I haven't, to be fair, I haven't seen this yet with this, but I'm, I'm, I'm pretty sure
00:44:22.500
it's happening because it happened all throughout Pope Francis.
00:44:25.440
You're going to have conservative cats, some who feel the need to, to pretend that this
00:44:34.420
They're going to feel the need to like, look you in the eyes and lie to you and tell you
00:44:39.000
that, no, he wasn't really, that's not what he was really saying.
00:44:42.360
They think they have to lie, that they're like morally called to lie and pretend that this
00:45:01.920
Well, Joy Reed was, uh, I'm not sure where she was.
00:45:04.920
She was doing some kind of interview somewhere.
00:45:08.540
Anyway, it's good because it finally gives us some detail.
00:45:13.260
You know, we constantly hear from Democrats about fascist, fascism, the fascist agenda
00:45:24.020
Well, in this short clip, she finally kind of fleshes it out.
00:45:27.940
So here is Joy Reed talking about what our fascist agenda actually is.
00:45:34.420
Is that if you go back before the 20th century, there were no income taxes.
00:45:40.880
You could earn as much money as you want, leave a hundred percent of it to your children
00:45:46.720
And to get it back, they need society to change.
00:45:55.100
So the fascists, their evil plan, our evil plan is to let people keep their own money and
00:46:03.340
We're the first fascists in history, in the history of fascism, to conspire to take power
00:46:13.200
You know, because the income tax is a source of immense power for the government.
00:46:17.220
It's probably their primary source of power right now.
00:46:26.240
And I mean, it certainly is when you have the ability to just go and like dip into the
00:46:32.780
paycheck of every working American and take whatever you want.
00:46:40.420
And so fascists, say Joy Reid, says Joy Reid, they want to remove that power.
00:46:53.440
All she's done is admit that the fascism claim is totally bogus.
00:46:58.580
And that's because fascism, obviously for the left, is not the use of government power in
00:47:09.000
It's not using the government to oppress people.
00:47:16.320
It's not what they mean when they use the term.
00:47:23.980
What they mean when they call you fascist is simply that they disagree, that you disagree
00:47:31.860
So to disagree with the Democrat platform is fascism by definition, by their definition,
00:47:41.860
So when we accuse the Democrats of using this term but not having a definition for it, now
00:47:50.420
They're not going to say that anyone who disagrees with us is a fascist, but that is what they
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And that's how Joy Reid can justify saying something as inane and stupid as that.
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While Netflix has had a difficult week, thousands of people, including Elon Musk, are canceling
00:49:36.600
their Netflix subscriptions after Libs of TikTok posted a particularly disturbing clip
00:49:41.820
Before we play the clip, keep in mind that this show is several years old.
00:49:44.580
It's been on Netflix's platform apparently for about four or five years.
00:49:48.020
This is not something that just appeared last week.
00:49:49.700
So children have been exposed to this for years before anyone noticed.
00:49:53.140
Uh, and this is from a show called Dead End Paranormal Park, which is rated Y7, meaning
00:50:00.500
that it's supposed to be appropriate for kids at the age of seven and up.
00:50:12.320
And everyone at school knows and everyone at home knows.
00:50:18.820
I can just be Barney and I can choose if and when I tell people I've never been happier.
00:50:24.680
And that's saying something when I spent a day chased by terrifying zombie mascots.
00:50:29.260
Pugsley reminded me how important it is to live your life without apology.
00:50:33.920
Now that's bad enough, but you know, this is one clip that's gone viral.
00:50:38.180
It's not as though the trans angle was mentioned just that one time.
00:50:44.680
The protagonist is, according to Wikipedia anyway, a quote, gay trans teen boy.
00:50:50.300
And the protagonist's best friend in the show is a bisexual, autistic, Pakistani-American
00:50:59.440
The creator of the show is someone named Hamish Steele, who lists his pronouns as he, they.
00:51:05.740
And it won't surprise you to learn that Hamish attacked Charlie Kirk only a day after he was
00:51:09.940
So this is a delusional and deranged extremist producing content for seven-year-old children
00:51:18.020
And Netflix is happy to provide a platform for it.
00:51:20.960
This is far from the only show of this type on Netflix.
00:51:23.740
Lives and TikTok has posted several other similar examples over the past couple of days.
00:51:28.120
More trans propaganda, gay weddings featured in children's cartoons and so on.
00:51:33.400
For example, here's a clip from a show called Ada Twist Scientist.
00:51:37.980
And again, this is targeted at seven-year-olds.
00:51:49.920
We can't wait for all our family and friends to visit our favorite place in the world.
00:51:54.260
We all wanted to help even Professor Flowerbomb.
00:52:05.400
I can't wait for my mom to feast her eyes on this.
00:52:11.240
Now, in case you're wondering, Netflix does not save its LGBT indoctrination for kids seven
00:52:20.120
We also have plenty of preschool LGBT programming.
00:52:22.680
Here's a show called Gecko's Garage, aimed at two-year-olds, featuring a, in one episode,
00:52:50.260
i'm so proud of you all let the carnival continue
00:52:58.000
now as i often point out and can't help but point out again these are these are among the
00:53:05.900
many other problems these are ugly shows and that's before you even get to the wokeness
00:53:10.640
and the gay stuff the animation is ugly it's totally lifeless it's dead there's no artistry
00:53:17.940
here just bright colors and noise nobody nobody involved in producing these shows has any respect
00:53:22.980
for their audience um their audience of children nor do they take any pride in their work they have
00:53:30.160
gay pride but they don't have any artistic pride you know there's no charm to it it's just this is
00:53:36.560
not art it's dull it's empty it's worthless and that should be reason enough to prohibit your
00:53:42.000
children from watching it just looking at that show before you even see the the pride flags
00:53:47.940
and you look at the way that it's animated and everything and that should be enough when you
00:53:53.040
look at that to say no i'm not gonna i'm not gonna have my kids watch this it's the audio and visual
00:53:58.320
version of like giving your kids soda and potato chips for dinner why would you do it as for the
00:54:04.500
messaging as a parent you have to understand that that and i think most parents at this point do
00:54:09.140
understand that wokeness is not a rare pitfall that a few kid shows stumble into i mean lube's
00:54:17.280
tick dog has been the last two days just posting clip after clip from all kinds of netflix shows
00:54:21.740
it's like the whole platform this stuff is totally pervasive it's everywhere the majority of children's
00:54:27.540
programming is like this it is the rule not the exception which means you can either be hyper
00:54:33.060
vigilant and aware and exercise strict control over what your children watch and the kind of media
00:54:39.120
they consume or or they will ingest a steady diet of lgbd propaganda starting before they can talk
00:54:45.600
those are your two options so-called you know helicopter parents get a bad rap but when it comes to
00:54:52.300
media you're either going to be a helicopter parent or a neglectful one there really is not much room
00:55:00.060
in between you can either hover over your children and very closely monitor what they're
00:55:05.100
watching or you can entrust them into the hands of weird degenerates like hamish steel
00:55:12.460
again that that that is that there is not any moderate compromise here
00:55:17.400
and the stakes i don't need to tell you are very high this is not a small or superfluous issue
00:55:24.740
i know there are some people on the right who treat this kind of issue like it is
00:55:29.580
so it's like well why are you talking about woke why are you talking about children's programming
00:55:34.860
what does that matter are there more important things happening in the world
00:55:38.660
there are some more important things happening but this is very very important because the goal of
00:55:46.920
this kind of propaganda and the reason they put it in shows aimed at kindergartners
00:55:51.120
is obviously to normalize what what they're showing on screen the great obstacle that lgbt activists face
00:55:59.860
is that all the things they're pushing transgenderism gender fluidity gay weddings all that stuff all of that
00:56:09.020
is abnormal and a person's immediate gut level reaction when they see something that is abnormal is to
00:56:19.300
recoil so lgbt activists are pushing against not just human nature but thousands of years of human history
00:56:27.100
the campaign to normalize transgenderism in particular only really began in earnest on a national scale
00:56:34.160
about 10 years ago so for most adults in this country it it was just too late
00:56:41.140
you know and we're noticing now it's a hopeless battle for the trans activists you can harangue and harass
00:56:47.120
and threaten a lot of people in the hopes of coercing them into going along with your agenda obediently
00:56:54.560
but you can't fundamentally convince them that it's normal and not weird for a man to walk around and address
00:57:03.560
this is the problem that trans activists are facing it's why they've lost most of the cultural ground
00:57:09.100
that they gained over the past decade it's because the propaganda doesn't stick you know they gained a
00:57:15.020
lot of ground mostly by coercing threatening harassing people cancel culture all the rest of it but that
00:57:21.680
you know this the fear mongering the scare tactics they they lose their sting after a while and then what
00:57:27.600
these trans activists found is like that's all they had because when you don't have the scare tactics
00:57:31.880
people just revert back to their natural state which is when you see a guy in a dress it's it's weird
00:57:38.680
like you can't take it seriously and that's what they're up against but what if you start younger
00:57:48.120
i mean what if you start much much younger can you essentially change the factory settings on the
00:57:56.220
human mind by exposing children to these bizarre concepts almost as soon as they emerge from the womb
00:58:03.100
can you construct basically an alternate reality for children uh and keep them in it one that is
00:58:10.500
totally divorced from reality itself can you essentially override that gut level instinct that
00:58:16.560
causes human beings to naturally recoil from things that are unnatural and disordered that's the the
00:58:23.220
gambit and the thing is that in a world where we're surrounded by media all the time where the average
00:58:30.560
person spends nearly every waking hour consuming media in some form or another it might actually
00:58:36.680
be possible if you start young enough and they're totally consumed by this stuff
00:58:42.820
um it might be possible it might be possible to create a generation of humans who don't even
00:58:51.020
who actually don't instinctively recognize that a guy in a dress who says he's a girl that there's
00:58:57.720
something wrong there they don't even instinctively like they really don't even recognize that as a
00:59:01.160
problem instinctively um you you might be able to create a generation of people like that that's the
00:59:08.000
experiment that these people are running right now and and it's why this stuff is everywhere in kids
00:59:15.460
programming because they're running this experiment on our children on your children
00:59:22.620
netflix is running this experiment and they're one of the worst offenders which is why we should all
00:59:31.440
say that netflix in both a literal and figurative sense is today canceled that'll do it for the show
00:59:39.980
today thanks for watching thanks for listening talk to you tomorrow have a great day godspeed
00:59:42.960
today on the ben shapiro show president trump unveils an extraordinary plan for the gaza strip that
00:59:53.840
actually has buy-in from israel arab countries and the united states but not yet hamas a government
00:59:58.660
shutdown looms as democrats shilly-shally and democrats still can't shake their radicalism
01:00:03.180
all that on today's ben shapiro show give it a listen