The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1672 - An Update On The Shocking Crime That Democrats Don't Want You To Know About

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, we have closely followed the case of child killer Ronald Exantis,

00:00:04.180 who was released from prison and set free after less than 10 years in jail.

00:00:08.140 Well, now we have a number of surprising updates to this story. You don't want to miss it.

00:00:11.060 Also, Donald Trump says that he doesn't think he's bound for heaven.

00:00:14.140 Some of his Christian supporters took exception to this comment, but I found it actually encouraging.

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00:00:24.000 Now he's also running for sheriff.

00:00:25.140 Plus, the Republican leader of the Senate decided to celebrate a Native American Day yesterday instead of Columbus Day.

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00:02:21.180 You'd be hard-pressed to find a map of any kind that's more infuriating than this one.

00:02:28.260 This is the distance between a typical house on 43rd Terrace Road and Sunrise Elementary School in Marion County, Florida.

00:02:37.520 And in case you're listening to the audio podcast, the house is directly on top of the school, basically.

00:02:41.900 There's practically no distance separating the school from the house.

00:02:45.180 They're very close together.

00:02:45.920 There's a fence that covers some of the grounds.

00:02:49.320 Anyone living in that house would easily be able to see the schoolchildren from any of his back windows.

00:02:55.460 He'd also be able to access the school grounds in about 10 seconds.

00:03:00.080 The problem with that is that this is the house that 42-year-old Ronald Exantis began living in

00:03:05.420 immediately after he arrived in Florida at the beginning of this month.

00:03:08.820 For privacy reasons, we aren't showing the exact address of the house, but this is the approximate distance and location according to multiple news reports.

00:03:17.820 And this is remarkable because less than a decade ago, as we discussed at length last week,

00:03:23.420 Ronald Exantis murdered a six-year-old child in Kentucky named Logan Tipton.

00:03:29.060 He also violently attacked the child's father and siblings before police arrived.

00:03:32.840 And yet, as of October 3rd of this year, Ronald Exantis was not in prison for killing that child, nor was he buried six feet under the ground where he belonged.

00:03:43.840 Instead, because the state of Kentucky released him on good behavior after just a few years in prison,

00:03:49.640 child killer Ronald Exantis was living in a home that's adjacent to an elementary school.

00:03:54.460 This is the kind of development that doesn't need any further explanation.

00:03:59.780 On its face, it's the greatest possible betrayal by the state of Kentucky and its judicial system.

00:04:04.600 And I say judicial system with the maximum possible degree of contempt.

00:04:10.180 No actual system of justice, no real system of justice could possibly produce this result,

00:04:16.820 where a child killer ends up free out on the street living next to an elementary school.

00:04:23.280 Now, we've talked before about the specifics of Ronald Exantis' case,

00:04:27.520 how the jury somehow found him not guilty by reason of insanity for killing the six-year-old child,

00:04:32.760 but at the same time guilty for assaulting the boy's siblings and father, which makes no sense.

00:04:37.040 We've discussed how Kentucky somehow classifies these assaults as nonviolent,

00:04:41.860 allowing Exantis to serve less than half of his sentence.

00:04:44.820 We've also discussed how ludicrous it is on its face to determine that someone who's supposedly insane, 0.88

00:04:50.020 so insane that they would kill a child, can still be unleashed on the public ever again.

00:04:57.500 But really, no discussion on these points is needed.

00:04:59.900 The mere fact that a child killer ended up a free man, living next to an elementary school,

00:05:05.000 practically on the elementary school's property,

00:05:07.980 is all the evidence you need that law and order do not exist in the state of Kentucky,

00:05:12.180 or, frankly, in much of the rest of the country.

00:05:14.020 But there is one very important part of the story that hasn't really been discussed.

00:05:19.940 When Ronald Exantis moved into that home in Marion County, Florida, October 3rd,

00:05:24.280 he was not alone.

00:05:26.280 He thought he was alone.

00:05:28.080 He thought he could do whatever he wanted without anybody noticing.

00:05:32.140 But that was not the case, because plainclothes officers were watching Exantis along with his property

00:05:37.240 as soon as he arrived at the home.

00:05:38.860 There were also other surveillance tools that were being used, which I'm not allowed to discuss.

00:05:44.740 But this was 24-hour surveillance by armed officers, which was directed by the Florida Attorney General's office.

00:05:51.600 And I know that because I was told this directly by a high-level source in that office.

00:05:56.960 I was also told that the reason the Florida State Attorney General's office became aware of this case in the first place,

00:06:02.340 and of Exantis' presence in the state, is that they saw my coverage of the case.

00:06:07.040 Here's what I wrote on Ex at 1.16 p.m. on October 3rd.

00:06:10.080 Quote,

00:06:11.040 This case should be getting a lot more attention.

00:06:13.500 It should be massively viral.

00:06:14.820 We need the White House on it.

00:06:16.240 A man who broke into a house and stabbed a child to death is now walking free.

00:06:20.060 One of the most heinous miscarriages of justice in American history.

00:06:23.340 Close quote.

00:06:24.960 Now, I didn't know when I wrote that post that Ronald Exantis had just acquired a Florida State driver's license

00:06:29.380 and moved into his new home just hours earlier on the same day, right next to an elementary school.

00:06:34.220 So, I had no idea where Ronald Exantis was.

00:06:37.100 I had just seen a post from the Unlimited L's account on X, which posted a news clip about the case.

00:06:44.080 And I reposted it with my commentary, trying to get as much attention as I possibly could to it.

00:06:49.620 And soon afterwards, the White House press secretary said that the Trump administration

00:06:52.380 was going to be getting involved in some way in this case.

00:06:56.020 He's going to look into it.

00:06:57.420 In response, a lot of people were understandably cynical.

00:07:00.280 You know, we're all familiar with how this kind of story usually plays out.

00:07:04.180 There's a grave injustice.

00:07:06.440 The government promises to address it.

00:07:09.080 And then nothing happens.

00:07:11.220 But in this case, something did happen.

00:07:13.340 Florida officials saw what I wrote, and they ordered 24-hour surveillance immediately.

00:07:18.220 That same day, they leapt into action.

00:07:21.520 From a practical, tactical perspective, they had to make sure that Exantis wouldn't murder any more children. 0.90

00:07:26.780 And they had to do that as soon as possible.

00:07:29.540 But from a legal perspective, they also had to find a way, legally, to put Ronald Exantis back in prison for a very long time.

00:07:37.240 As long as possible, anyway.

00:07:39.420 And that's precisely what happened next.

00:07:42.140 And that's why, within a few days, as soon as they could, those Florida officers arrested Exantis

00:07:45.960 and charged him with a violation of the terms of his release.

00:07:48.480 And we'll put the relevant portion of those terms up on the screen right now.

00:07:52.060 Now, you can see it.

00:07:53.420 It reads, quote,

00:07:54.380 You shall not violate any law or city ordinance of this state or any other state or of the United States.

00:08:00.740 Now, pretty simple.

00:08:01.740 Obviously, this is kind of a boilerplate provision.

00:08:04.620 It's likely that Ronald Exantis, if he even read the terms of his release, which he probably didn't,

00:08:10.260 wouldn't care about this.

00:08:11.420 He's never demonstrated any concern for the law at any time in his life.

00:08:14.360 So why would he start now?

00:08:15.440 But the Florida Attorney General's Office was very interested in this provision because they're familiar with the following provision in Florida law.

00:08:25.320 It reads, quote,

00:08:26.800 Any person who has been convicted of a crime in any federal court or in any court of a state other than Florida

00:08:31.800 or of any foreign state or country which crime if committed in Florida would be a felony

00:08:36.800 shall forthwith within 48 hours after entering any county in the state register with the sheriff of said county

00:08:42.720 in the same manner as provided for in subsection 2.

00:08:46.300 And subsection 2 describes the process of going to the sheriff, getting fingerprinted, getting photographed, doing all that.

00:08:54.540 Now, violating this law, which is failing to register as a felon, is a low-level misdemeanor.

00:09:03.620 But a low-level misdemeanor is a very big deal when you're out of prison on early release or parole or anything like it.

00:09:09.660 In fact, a low-level misdemeanor can be the difference between going free and living near an elementary school full of potential victims

00:09:17.580 and going to prison for another 10 years.

00:09:21.320 And the state of Florida recognized that.

00:09:22.980 They understood that under the law as it stands, this is the best way to protect the public from Ronald Exantis.

00:09:30.920 Now, he should not be out of prison in the first place. 0.94

00:09:33.800 He should have been executed. 0.99

00:09:35.020 He should at least be in prison for the rest of his life. 0.97

00:09:37.600 But under the law as it currently stands, this is what they could do.

00:09:42.780 They could take him into custody, which they did.

00:09:45.820 And that's where he remains right now, without bail.

00:09:48.060 He's going to be sent back to Kentucky soon.

00:09:49.920 And we're told that it's very likely that Kentucky officials will ultimately revoke his early release as a result.

00:09:54.920 Not because they want to, of course, but because of the PR disaster that's resulted from this case.

00:09:58.880 They really have no choice.

00:09:59.800 So, and that means he's going to go back to prison for another 10 years.

00:10:04.700 So, to be clear, a single post on social media led to a response from the White House, 24-hour surveillance,

00:10:11.180 and ultimately the removal of a child killer from the streets.

00:10:15.160 And there's a very good chance that the state of Florida saved lives here.

00:10:20.780 And I think it's almost certain that they did.

00:10:24.220 And we're so used to government dysfunction that a rapid response like this seems kind of unthinkable.

00:10:29.520 It can seem pointless to raise hell about anything on social media.

00:10:32.660 Yeah, but as we're often told, social media isn't real life.

00:10:36.960 You know, Twitter isn't real life.

00:10:38.000 X isn't real life.

00:10:39.780 But this all seems pretty real to me.

00:10:42.880 Now, if you're a bleeding heart type, you might object that Ronald Xantis is the victim of lawfare.

00:10:48.380 Because, if we're being honest, Ronald Xantis probably wasn't even aware of this Florida law.

00:10:54.020 Well, too bad, first of all.

00:10:57.160 And second, that's not what lawfare is.

00:10:59.120 Lawfare is when you apply existing laws in a clearly malicious, unequal, and novel way, far removed from their original intent.

00:11:08.040 And you do it for often political reasons.

00:11:10.180 For example, charging Donald Trump for storing classified material while letting Joe Biden hoard boxes of classified documents in his garage.

00:11:17.000 That's a lawfare.

00:11:19.280 And every single Trump prosecution was like this.

00:11:21.360 By contrast, the law in the state of Florida has a very clear purpose.

00:11:24.700 It's to keep the people of Florida safe from out-of-state felons.

00:11:27.620 And that law is working perfectly as intended right now.

00:11:31.200 But there are deeper problems that need to be addressed here.

00:11:33.420 Because, you know, the state of Florida cannot solve all of Kentucky's problems by itself.

00:11:40.620 So take a look at this segment featuring Ronald Xantis' former public defender, who's a woman named Bridget Hoffler.

00:11:47.440 Hoffler has left the public defender's office since defending Xantis and now serves as an assistant county attorney in Carroll County, Kentucky.

00:11:54.900 So she's a prosecutor now. 0.91

00:11:56.080 And specifically, she's a prosecutor focusing on neglect and abuse cases involving children.

00:12:02.920 But she absolutely should not be.

00:12:05.340 She should be fired immediately. 1.00

00:12:07.380 And that's not because she represented Ronald Xantis.

00:12:10.280 Everybody, no matter how evil they are, is legally entitled to a criminal defense in this country.

00:12:16.140 That's the law.

00:12:17.260 That should be the law, and it is.

00:12:19.600 That's not why she should be fired. 1.00

00:12:20.720 She should be fired because Bridget Hoffler just gave the following interview after Ronald Xantis' release. 0.98

00:12:28.100 This is how she is talking about a man who murdered a child less than a decade ago.

00:12:33.480 This is a report from a local news station.

00:12:35.880 Quote, Xantis' former attorney, Bridget Hoffler, said Xantis called her after he was released.

00:12:41.980 She said she was initially shocked that he was let out early because it was such a contentious case.

00:12:47.260 Yeah, contentious is one way to put it.

00:12:48.800 But, quote, it didn't really surprise me.

00:12:51.360 If anybody deserved to get out early, it was wrong.

00:12:54.220 He had accomplished so much while he was in prison.

00:12:58.420 Now, to be clear, again, this is a prosecutor who says that a, a prosecutor now,

00:13:05.640 who says that a child killer deserved an early release from prison because he accomplished so much while he was in prison.

00:13:13.460 Now, this is the very definition of suicidal empathy, which is an overwhelmingly female problem, a liberal female problem. 1.00

00:13:23.760 Once you stab a child in the head so many times that the blade bends, there is nothing you can do in prison, nothing whatsoever, that can possibly justify releasing you.

00:13:35.300 I don't care what you do, okay?

00:13:37.320 I don't care how many arts and crafts you manage to do.

00:13:40.680 I don't care how many coloring books you complete or whatever Ronald Xantis supposedly accomplished while he was in a cage under armed guard.

00:13:48.380 It doesn't matter.

00:13:49.320 And the only person who would disagree with that idea is an enemy of civilization who should be nowhere near a prosecutor's office.

00:13:59.880 In a separate interview, Bridget Hoffler somehow managed to make things even worse. 1.00

00:14:05.500 Watch.

00:14:07.040 Jennifer?

00:14:07.600 Well, a decade-old Kentucky law allowed Xantis to be placed on mandatory re-entry supervision.

00:14:13.660 In 2018, a jury convicted Xantis of assault for injuring Tipton's family members, but found him not guilty of the boy's murder by reason of insanity.

00:14:22.480 He was sentenced to 20 years in prison, but served just 10 years before being released.

00:14:26.620 We asked Xantis' former attorney to explain what mandatory re-entry supervision actually is.

00:14:32.160 So, first of all, it's not discretionary in the least.

00:14:38.840 It's mandatory.

00:14:39.980 It's by operation of law.

00:14:42.420 Nothing you can do to prevent it.

00:14:44.480 The case has garnered national attention even from the White House, which said it's looking into his release.

00:14:50.700 I think, you know, everyone is fearful.

00:14:55.260 You know, you have a lot of talking heads that know nothing about the facts of this case.

00:15:00.420 They weren't in the courtroom during trial, and they don't know anything about Ron, and they don't know anything about this case.

00:15:08.620 But, you know, when this happened, Ron was a very well-established nurse.

00:15:16.460 Oh, he was a well-established nurse.

00:15:19.600 I mean, can you imagine keeping a well-established nurse in prison? 1.00

00:15:22.680 Again, she's saying this after this nurse murdered a child and tried to kill his entire family.

00:15:30.860 And also, again, no one is taking this woman to task for the fact that she defended Xantis.

00:15:38.340 She was a public defender.

00:15:39.320 That was her job.

00:15:40.840 She's not a public defender anymore, and she's not his attorney anymore.

00:15:43.160 She's now actually a prosecutor who is still claiming, and she doesn't need to do this, she's doing it because she believes it, that it's great this guy's out of prison.

00:15:54.440 He's a well-established nurse.

00:15:57.940 Well, you know, I would say that once you go and murder a child, that's the point where you are no longer a well-established nurse. 1.00

00:16:05.980 You are a child killer. 0.98

00:16:08.440 Your past employment is irrelevant. 1.00

00:16:11.140 I don't care what you were in your past.

00:16:13.320 You could have been Mother Teresa.

00:16:14.340 It doesn't matter. 0.98

00:16:16.220 Slaughtering children is the clearest possible red line. 0.98

00:16:20.680 Of course, women like this don't see it that way. 1.00

00:16:22.780 That's why they support abortion. 0.99

00:16:24.060 Killing a child in the mind of the modern leftist, and in particular the modern leftist woman, isn't really a crime.

00:16:29.800 And that's how they think.

00:16:31.600 It's certainly how this woman thinks. 1.00

00:16:33.100 If Kentucky wants to have a functioning judicial system, then step one is firing this scumbag. 0.99

00:16:41.260 She has no business being a prosecutor. 1.00

00:16:43.340 She has no business holding any public office ever again.

00:16:47.000 And at some level, she seems to recognize that because she's deleted all of her social media accounts and her phone number doesn't work anymore.

00:16:53.520 The next step after this woman is terminated is to change the law in Kentucky so that nothing like this ever happens again.

00:16:59.060 And one state representative in Kentucky, T.J. Roberts, has proposed two bills that would have that effect.

00:17:05.560 Watch.

00:17:07.440 The Tipton family has been victimized twice.

00:17:10.440 The first time they were victimized was by Ronald Exantis, and he should have died in prison for what he did.

00:17:16.060 But the second time that they were victimized was by the government of Kentucky.

00:17:20.440 Our laws failed them.

00:17:21.700 State representative T.J. Roberts intends to file legislation next year to eliminate mandatory re-entry supervision.

00:17:29.100 The program releases nonviolent offenders six months before their release date to re-acclimate to the world.

00:17:35.220 Exantis' second-degree assault charges did not classify him as a violent offender, making him eligible for early release.

00:17:42.240 Roberts proposes giving the power to grant this kind of re-entry to the parole board, which stated it denied Exantis' parole every time it was considered, including the day before he was let out.

00:17:53.700 Angela Cooper with the ACLU of Kentucky cautions a law change for a program that she says has, in most cases, worked as intended.

00:18:01.640 A single case, a single incident, a single unique set of circumstances should not be the basis for changing a law, creating a law.

00:18:10.020 And then we hear from the ACLU there, and, you know, even by the non-existent standards of the ACLU, it's an extraordinary argument.

00:18:17.900 Yeah, you can't change the law just because of one little child killer getting released after a few years and moving directly next to an elementary school.

00:18:24.980 We're just supposed to allow that because, in general, it's supposedly a good thing to release violent criminals early while pretending that they're nonviolent.

00:18:32.120 Actually, you know, in a society where children are safe from psychopathic killers, which is the kind of society the ACLU does not want, it's common sense to change laws that produce catastrophically bad outcomes.

00:18:45.860 That's how functioning societies work.

00:18:50.780 And, of course, it's a lot more than one violent criminal that's been released from prison because of laws like this.

00:18:55.620 But even if it were just one, if this is a law that has enabled even one child killer to leave prison before they die, then there's a problem with the law.

00:19:07.940 You know, in a functioning society, you see a system that produces a bad result, you analyze how that result comes about, and then you change the system.

00:19:19.760 It's called its cause and effect.

00:19:21.020 It's a very basic principle.

00:19:23.260 I mean, it's like saying that what the ACLU is saying, it's like saying that if your brakes fail in your car one time, that, well, there's no reason to take it into the shop and get it repaired.

00:19:32.500 We don't need to go do a whole thing.

00:19:34.180 You know, we don't need to overhaul the system.

00:19:35.700 Let's, it's just one time.

00:19:37.480 It's just one time.

00:19:38.420 Come on.

00:19:40.700 It's exactly the same mentality.

00:19:43.040 And to that end, TJ Roberts has also changed, rather proposed another change to the law in Kentucky.

00:19:49.020 Watch.

00:19:51.400 Roberts's second bill request focuses on insanity pleas.

00:19:55.400 If a criminal charge is all emerging from the same course of conduct, either you're sane for all the charges or you're insane for all of the charges.

00:20:05.080 He adds, typically, a person found not guilty by reason of insanity is committed to a mental health facility.

00:20:12.500 Once again, where are all the other lawmakers in Kentucky?

00:20:17.180 I really appreciate TJ Roberts.

00:20:18.960 Where are the rest of them?

00:20:20.300 For that matter, where, where's Rand Paul, Thomas Massey?

00:20:24.860 You know, Kentucky is their state.

00:20:27.220 And I like both of those guys, but where are they on this?

00:20:30.820 Have they said anything about it?

00:20:32.060 Have they said a single word about it?

00:20:37.460 Now, when my producer spoke to TJ Roberts last night, he said that he believes his legislation will pass.

00:20:42.980 There's strong support among Kentucky lawmakers for each of them.

00:20:45.680 And they don't need the Democrat governor, Andy Beshear, to sign off on them because only a constitutional majority is needed to overturn this veto.

00:20:53.580 And and Kentucky is, of course, dominated by Republicans.

00:20:57.380 And that's very fortunate because for his part, Andy Beshear has responded to the release of Ronald Exantis by defending the state parole board and attacking the White House for responding to my post on social media.

00:21:07.380 That's what Andy Beshear is worried about.

00:21:09.500 OK, here's what Andy Beshear said, quote, for them, the White House to speaking about the White House, for the White House to simply retweet that wrong information.

00:21:17.820 The parole board has never made a decision to release Ronald Exantis.

00:21:20.380 Instead, every time it came in, came in front of them, they voted against him and to keep him in prison.

00:21:25.260 Now, to be clear, that the tweet from the White House, White House's press secretary, Caroline Leavitt, was as follows, quote, I can confirm the White House is looking into this.

00:21:35.600 It's wholly unacceptable for a child killer to walk free after just several years in prison.

00:21:39.720 And that was a direct response to my tweet, which we showed earlier, in which I said, again, quote, a man who broke into a house and stabbed a child to death is now walking free.

00:21:47.860 Neither one of us spread wrong information.

00:21:51.260 Everything we said was correct.

00:21:53.120 Now, it's true that when this story broke, the Kentucky Parole Board claimed that they didn't want to release Ronald Exantis.

00:21:59.900 The Department of Corrections said that their hands were tied.

00:22:04.140 But even if that were true, the parole board and the Department of Corrections could have made their objections public.

00:22:11.080 They could have drawn attention to what happened.

00:22:14.360 They could have been shouting from the rooftops about this terrible atrocity, this terrible injustice that they were forced to take part in.

00:22:23.120 But they didn't.

00:22:24.160 They didn't do that at all.

00:22:25.200 They didn't say a word about it.

00:22:29.140 Instead, they waited for, you know, the rest of us to do it for them.

00:22:33.100 You know, they waited for a podcaster in a different state to do it for them.

00:22:38.520 And now they want to play victim.

00:22:40.020 I had no choice.

00:22:41.340 Well, maybe step up and have some courage.

00:22:46.060 Maybe speak up.

00:22:47.280 Maybe do something about it.

00:22:48.540 Rather than, well, my hands are tied.

00:22:49.840 Nothing I can do.

00:22:52.680 Just for that attitude alone, you are still villains in this.

00:22:55.620 I don't care if the law mandated it or not.

00:22:58.780 You are still villains in this story.

00:23:00.260 They could have imposed stricter conditions on the release of Ronald Xanthus so that the state of Florida would have an even easier time arresting him.

00:23:08.460 They didn't do any of that.

00:23:10.940 All they're interested in doing is covering for themselves.

00:23:15.120 And the same is true of the governor of the state.

00:23:18.300 I mean, even if it were true that disinformation had been spread about the Kentucky Parole Board, you know, that's not really a priority.

00:23:24.640 The priority, the travesty here is not that people are supposedly mistaken about government officials and what the law mandates.

00:23:35.140 You know, by the way, this is one of the consequences of having ridiculous laws that make no sense is that for the rest of us, it's a confusing mishmash.

00:23:44.820 And yeah, we don't know exactly who to blame.

00:23:48.200 And then you people in government, you hide behind that.

00:23:50.660 You say, well, it's not my fault.

00:23:51.900 How you're spreading misinformation.

00:23:54.640 Well, maybe step up and change the law before this happens.

00:23:59.040 Okay, all we know is that this terrible atrocity was allowed to occur.

00:24:04.180 And because of the way the system is set up, it's been set up by people.

00:24:08.160 You people are in the system.

00:24:09.500 You run the system.

00:24:11.920 So, yeah, it is your fault.

00:24:16.340 Maybe for once in your lives, like, do something about it rather than standing back and just pointing the finger.

00:24:21.380 Blame him, not me. 0.99

00:24:22.520 It's pathetic. 0.98

00:24:27.480 You know, the injustice here is not that the parole board was, according to them, unfairly blamed. 0.98

00:24:36.080 That's not the injustice.

00:24:37.020 The injustice is that a child killer was let out of prison and that he moved next to an elementary school.

00:24:43.040 That's what every single political official in Kentucky should care about and should be talking about.

00:24:50.200 The lesson we should draw from this case is that we can indeed enforce laws.

00:24:59.720 We can enforce them quickly.

00:25:02.220 All of the built-in dysfunction of our legal system is a choice.

00:25:06.100 One tweet, one tweet, and next thing you know, Ronald Xantis is back in prison.

00:25:13.880 That's because the laws that are necessary to ensure public order are already on the books.

00:25:19.320 And in the states where they aren't, like Kentucky, they could easily be changed.

00:25:26.480 The state of Florida, to its enormous credit, understands that.

00:25:30.680 They're responsive to complaints.

00:25:32.340 Even when they come from out of state, they understand that the law is a tool to ensure public order, not to prosecute political opponents, not for any means like that, but it's to restore order.

00:25:48.000 And the result is that Ronald Xantis is in a prison cell right now instead of hanging out near an elementary school.

00:25:54.940 Many more criminals deserve the same fate.

00:26:00.480 They can be locked up just as quickly as he was.

00:26:04.320 And if we notice what's happening around us and apply pressure on public officials to correct it,

00:26:09.480 as we did in this case after learning of the brutal murder of Logan Tipton and the early release of his killer,

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00:28:56.420 As you can see, if you're watching the video podcast,

00:28:59.120 we launched today in our brand new studio.

00:29:01.780 I've been in studio limbo for several months.

00:29:05.340 And now we have this beautiful new space, which I'm very happy with.

00:29:09.640 You can see my big, I think you can see it in the shot there,

00:29:12.200 my big wooden carved largemouth bass on the mantle, which I'm really proud of.

00:29:19.760 That's, the whole studio was really constructed with that in mind.

00:29:24.080 I told them I have this big carved fish that I haven't anything,

00:29:29.560 I don't know what to do with it.

00:29:30.520 So, like, build the entire studio around this fish.

00:29:34.440 And that's what we did.

00:29:35.900 So, and I think it's great.

00:29:38.620 Speaking of things that I think are great, I wanted to start with this.

00:29:45.200 So, President Trump has obviously had a big week.

00:29:47.540 I think that puts it quite mildly.

00:29:50.280 Ended the war in the Middle East.

00:29:51.700 Earned himself a Nobel Peace Prize.

00:29:52.960 I mean, he wasn't awarded a Nobel Peace Prize, but he did earn one,

00:29:55.560 whether he was awarded it or not.

00:29:57.420 So, a big week.

00:29:58.520 And amid all that, there was a moment that went viral of Trump,

00:30:06.740 I think he's on his plane, on Air Force One, talking to reporters.

00:30:11.820 And Trump has been criticized a fair amount by conservatives,

00:30:15.820 by his Christian supporters, some of them, for what he said here.

00:30:19.840 But, and that's why I find it interesting, but I think that he's being unfairly criticized.

00:30:25.840 Let's play the clip.

00:30:26.660 Here it is.

00:30:28.560 You know, I'm being a little cute.

00:30:32.120 I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven, okay?

00:30:34.820 I really don't.

00:30:35.620 I think I'm not maybe heaven bound.

00:30:38.860 I may be in heaven right now as we fly an Air Force One.

00:30:41.940 I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make heaven.

00:30:44.200 But I've made life a lot better for a lot of people.

00:30:47.120 And, you know, as an example, had the election of 2020 not been rigged,

00:30:51.920 you would have millions of people living just in Russia, Ukraine alone.

00:30:56.820 That would have never happened.

00:30:58.080 And it didn't happen for four years.

00:31:00.500 And I knew Putin very well.

00:31:02.300 It was the apple of his eye.

00:31:03.620 All the things I've said would have never happened.

00:31:06.540 We had an incompetent administration. 0.96

00:31:08.400 We had an incompetent president.

00:31:11.160 And because of a crooked election, millions of people are dead.

00:31:14.780 And by the way, the Israeli thing was much harder to get settled because of the best administration. 0.55

00:31:20.700 Okay?

00:31:21.760 Okay, so plenty of criticism of Trump from some Christians because of his comments there that he's not heaven bound.

00:31:27.040 You know, and they say this is proof that Trump isn't spiritually mature at best, doesn't understand the gospel.

00:31:34.020 You know, Dana Lash, Eric Erickson were two of the conservative commentators who criticized Trump.

00:31:40.800 Dana posted, he needs better spiritual advisors around him.

00:31:43.740 If he believes this, God's grace covers all by belief, not deed.

00:31:47.480 Now, I like Dana and Eric and a lot of the other conservative commentators who issued criticisms.

00:31:52.560 But I disagree with them on this one.

00:31:54.820 First of all, it's clear that Trump is at least partially joking.

00:31:58.620 You know, this is a self-deprecating joke.

00:32:01.420 And that's one thing that's very underrated about Trump.

00:32:04.020 I think it's his capacity for self-deprecation, for being self-effacing.

00:32:09.500 He's thought of as this very bombastic, self-assured guy, which he is, of course.

00:32:14.700 But he also frequently has these, I find, charming moments of humility and self-deprecation.

00:32:20.980 And this is one of them.

00:32:22.220 But also, I would say Trump's attitude here is, I think, in particular for a leader, for a person in a position of leadership.

00:32:31.520 But really for anyone, for anyone, is more spiritually mature and more theologically sound than the idea held by a lot of people criticizing him on this point.

00:32:44.900 That, you know, as long as we've professed our belief in Christ at some point, then we can say for absolute 100% certainty that we're going to heaven.

00:32:53.340 Once saved, always saved, right, is the idea.

00:32:57.760 So if you declare that Trump, if you declare, you know, if Trump declares, if anyone declares that Jesus is your Lord and Savior, and then 10 years later, you know, you go off and become an axe murderer or something, you are still absolutely guaranteed to go to heaven.

00:33:17.320 And that's the idea.

00:33:19.360 And the people who promote this doctrine, you know, they try to get around this.

00:33:24.080 Obviously, they've heard this objection many times, and they'll try to get around it by saying, well, you know, if you become an axe murderer, it means that the profession of faith was never sincere.

00:33:37.460 But that's kind of ad hoc reasoning, and it's totally fallacious, and the fact is that a person can sincerely believe that Jesus is Lord and also go off and commit horrific sins.

00:33:51.060 I mean, it's possible for both of those things to happen.

00:33:55.900 I mean, Satan knows that Jesus is Lord, and yet he is still Satan.

00:34:00.740 So you can't really get around this problem if you believe once saved, always saved, then you believe that a person can commit the most horrific, monstrous sins imaginable, not repent for them.

00:34:14.340 You know, they could go be a murderer or a child predator, you know, the worst things imaginable, and still be absolutely sure of their own salvation the whole time as long as they believe in Jesus Christ.

00:34:24.980 And that's the implications of the doctrine, a doctrine which is relatively new in the grand scheme of things.

00:34:29.820 I mean, it was never the traditional way of understanding salvation.

00:34:32.960 Trump's view is much more traditional, much more in line with the traditional view, much more in line with what the church fathers taught, what the early church taught, not to mention what Jesus himself taught.

00:34:45.520 You know, Jesus said to the adulterous woman, go and sin no more. 1.00

00:34:48.920 I don't condemn you, go and sin no more.

00:34:51.520 Meaning you can't just go out and do what you want.

00:34:55.720 You can't go back to the sinful lifestyle.

00:34:58.100 So, I'm going to get into the whole theological debate.

00:35:03.040 I'm only saying that I think the people criticizing Trump are on shakier biblical footing than he is here.

00:35:07.920 And I think Trump's comments are, you know, straight out of Philippians.

00:35:13.480 Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

00:35:16.200 That's what I take from it.

00:35:17.800 This is Trump's fear and trembling.

00:35:19.800 And we should all have fear and trembling.

00:35:24.940 The people who say, oh yeah, you know, I'm saved.

00:35:27.120 I'm definitely going to heaven no matter what.

00:35:31.080 Well, where is the fear and trembling in that?

00:35:32.960 Where is the working out?

00:35:36.280 I mean, it's right there in the Bible.

00:35:37.240 And regardless of any of that, I will say this, no matter where you stand theologically, I would much rather have a leader who has fear and trembling, who has this humility, and has this, is unsure of his own ultimate fate.

00:35:59.060 I would much rather have that in the most powerful man in the world than one who believes that no matter what he does, no matter what decisions he makes, he definitely can't go to hell no matter what.

00:36:14.500 I would much rather the former scenario for a whole host of reasons.

00:36:18.220 All right, we've talked about the situation in Cincinnati, and the city's in bad shape, plagued by crime, plagued by dysfunction.

00:36:26.940 Over the weekend, there was another shooting, multiple shootings.

00:36:29.880 There was one at a restaurant downtown.

00:36:31.860 Two people were shot, maybe at the restaurant, or this might have been two different shootings.

00:36:35.840 But regardless, you know, you lose track of all the shootings.

00:36:41.540 But chaos in Cincinnati, we've talked about this.

00:36:44.380 I want to play this clip of the police chief, Chief Teresa Thietig.

00:36:49.260 I still haven't figured out how to pronounce her last name.

00:36:51.720 T-H-E-E-T-G-E. 1.00

00:36:54.280 Thieg, probably.

00:36:55.920 I guess the T is silent.

00:36:56.900 Is that what it is?

00:36:57.320 Teresa Thieg, I'm going to guess.

00:36:59.520 Anyway, we've heard from her before on the show.

00:37:03.180 And you know how I feel about female police chiefs. 1.00

00:37:07.060 Well, not to prove a point that's already been proven a thousand times already.

00:37:10.420 But here is Chief Teresa's message to the violent criminals who are, you know, shooting each other in the street.

00:37:18.420 Here's her message to them.

00:37:20.280 Watch.

00:37:20.640 And so my message to everybody, learn how to behave in our city, but especially learn how to behave in our downtown, in our Fountain Square.

00:37:32.980 And our officers will approach you if you start to behave disorderly on Fountain Square.

00:37:39.400 Because these things can sometimes start as a minor altercation and then evolve into something bigger.

00:37:46.480 So do not come downtown, especially on Fountain Square, if you don't know how to behave.

00:37:56.000 Now, you better behave.

00:37:58.400 I've had enough of these shenanigans out of you, mister.

00:38:03.240 There won't be any more misbehavior.

00:38:05.060 I'll tell you right now.

00:38:08.220 Don't make me put you in timeout.

00:38:10.780 I'll call your parents.

00:38:13.480 You're going to miss recess, young man.

00:38:16.640 There will be no more misbehavior.

00:38:20.220 That was one too many shootings, okay?

00:38:22.820 I gave you too many chances.

00:38:26.560 You're going to stop the shootings right away.

00:38:28.300 When I get to three, one, two, two and a half, two and three quarters.

00:38:36.320 This is the police chief of a major American city.

00:38:38.940 She sounds like a disappointed assistant principal in a middle school somewhere. 0.97

00:38:42.640 She sounds like an overwhelmed substitute teacher in a sixth grade math class. 0.98

00:38:48.140 And this is how she responds to, you know, criminality and violent crime.

00:39:00.060 There's just no hope of restoring any semblance of law and order when you have somebody like this in charge.

00:39:05.220 It is a total farce.

00:39:08.740 And I know people get mad when I say it, but we just should not have female police chiefs, okay? 1.00

00:39:15.020 We just shouldn't.

00:39:16.540 That's a man's job. 1.00

00:39:18.220 And I know there are plenty of bad police chiefs out there who are men.

00:39:21.320 Don't get me wrong.

00:39:22.060 I realize that being a man is not in and of itself enough, okay?

00:39:27.300 That's not sufficient.

00:39:29.780 It's not like if you say you want to be police chief, I would look at you and say, oh, you're a man.

00:39:34.040 Well, good.

00:39:34.540 You're fine.

00:39:35.520 You're great.

00:39:37.420 No, that's just the first box of many that you should have to check in order to be qualified for the job.

00:39:43.000 Now, law enforcement is an inherently masculine thing.

00:39:45.920 It's a masculine profession. 0.94

00:39:47.580 And you need leaders of men, okay?

00:39:50.880 You just do that.

00:39:51.540 It's the same reason why there could never be, you know, a female NFL head coach. 1.00

00:39:56.760 I mean, there can be legally.

00:40:01.540 I'm sure the NFL would love it.

00:40:03.020 I'm sure the NFL is pushing it behind the scenes.

00:40:04.920 They would love to have that.

00:40:06.620 But it's not ever going to happen.

00:40:08.880 Because, yeah, now you could find a woman who knows football really well.

00:40:12.480 You could find a woman who knows football more than I do, you know?

00:40:14.780 Well, that's not, it wouldn't be that hard.

00:40:17.020 That's possible.

00:40:18.820 But women cannot be leaders of men, okay? 0.99

00:40:22.180 That's what it comes down to. 1.00

00:40:23.880 And this should not be, I understand it is controversial because we live in a very stupid culture. 0.98

00:40:30.840 But it should not be controversial. 0.99

00:40:35.940 Women are not leaders of men. 0.97

00:40:37.780 Men are leaders of men.

00:40:38.980 That's why the idea of a woman trying to lead a football team is just absurd. 1.00

00:40:43.840 It's like a cartoon.

00:40:46.320 The men on the football team need to be led by a man who they respect,

00:40:50.560 who can inspire them to run out onto the field, throw their body around,

00:40:54.560 put themselves in harm's way.

00:40:56.420 And if that's true of football, a game, which we all know that it is,

00:41:01.260 then how much more is it the case with something like law enforcement or the military?

00:41:06.960 You're actually putting your life on the line.

00:41:09.900 You need men in charge.

00:41:11.580 And we shouldn't be shy about saying that.

00:41:14.400 We shouldn't be beating around the bush.

00:41:16.860 There are certain roles in society that should be filled by men. 0.98

00:41:19.540 I mean, it's as simple as that.

00:41:22.620 There are some things in life where you can look at it and you say,

00:41:27.620 that's not really for women. 1.00

00:41:29.300 Women shouldn't be doing that. 1.00

00:41:32.940 This is one of the many things that up until very recently,

00:41:35.960 nothing controversial about saying this,

00:41:37.660 the only thing that would be remarkable about saying any of this up until recently

00:41:42.900 is just that you feel the need to say it.

00:41:45.160 People will look at you strange because they would say, yeah, obviously.

00:41:49.440 Of course.

00:41:50.620 Like men and women are different.

00:41:51.680 They are suited for different things, obviously.

00:41:58.800 But that's how it is now.

00:42:00.700 And we all know it.

00:42:03.980 We all know it.

00:42:04.560 We all understand.

00:42:07.280 Everyone listening to me right now knows it at some level.

00:42:10.540 When you just look at this police chief, police chief, Teresa,

00:42:15.780 before she opens her mouth, you look at her and you say, oh, come on.

00:42:21.420 Every thing.

00:42:21.820 I don't care who you are.

00:42:22.460 I don't care.

00:42:22.920 I don't care how enlightened you pretend to be.

00:42:24.780 You see it before she says a word.

00:42:26.920 You see that.

00:42:28.100 And you go, okay.

00:42:30.820 Really?

00:42:35.740 And there are situations where it goes the other way around.

00:42:37.720 I mean, there are jobs where you would say that's not for a man.

00:42:42.000 Like it's just men are just not suited for that.

00:42:45.200 I've used the example plenty of times.

00:42:46.820 I think it's because I think it's a good example is like a babysitter, a nanny.

00:42:52.640 It doesn't matter.

00:42:54.060 I'm not hiring a man to do that job.

00:42:56.380 No way in hell.

00:42:57.680 I don't care how qualified you are.

00:42:59.360 I don't care.

00:43:01.660 No way.

00:43:04.080 Why?

00:43:04.900 Well, because it's not a man's job. 1.00

00:43:06.500 Men are just not meant to do that job.

00:43:08.800 They're not suited for it.

00:43:12.900 Now, not every woman is qualified. 1.00

00:43:14.700 If I'm looking for a nanny and a woman walks in the door, I'm not going to say, well, she's a woman. 0.99

00:43:19.020 So clearly she can do it.

00:43:20.020 There are other qualifications, but the first box on the list that needs to be checked is that they have to be a woman. 1.00

00:43:31.780 And, you know, men are disqualified right out of the gate simply because of their sex.

00:43:37.920 I would discriminate against them purely for factors that are totally outside of their control.

00:43:44.520 I would absolutely do that without hesitation, without apology.

00:43:52.380 If a man showed up for a nanny interview, I would say, no, what are you doing here?

00:43:56.060 Get the hell out of here.

00:43:57.260 Well, is it because I'm a man?

00:43:58.240 Yeah.

00:43:59.480 That's why.

00:44:00.040 And, and again, we can all see that, that, I mean, almost every person feels the same way.

00:44:08.480 Instinctively, you just know it, right?

00:44:12.040 Anyone out there looking for a babysitter nanny, something for childcare, you're not, you're not, you're not going to hire a man.

00:44:17.240 And we all know that.

00:44:18.420 And with that, I think it's, it's, it's more acceptable to admit people are more likely to admit that.

00:44:30.220 Right.

00:44:30.620 I think you can get people to admit that there are roles in society that, yeah, really, that should be a woman doing that. 1.00

00:44:36.260 You can, you can usually get people to admit that.

00:44:38.380 But if you go the other way and say, well, yeah, okay, you know, women are, but, and then there are roles where really it should be a man. 0.98

00:44:47.060 When, when you say that part of it, that's where people get very upset.

00:44:50.360 Even though, again, instinctively, we all know it's true and it's okay to trust your instincts.

00:44:54.720 You know, you know that your instincts, you're like, when I, when I, what I mean by instincts, we're talking about just our innate understanding.

00:45:04.960 We just have an innate understanding of certain things.

00:45:09.240 Like in your gut, you just know it and it's okay to trust that.

00:45:13.860 In fact, you should, you should just trust that.

00:45:18.500 And so the whole conversation is really pointless because I'm trying to persuade you of something that you already know is true deep down.

00:45:30.820 All right.

00:45:32.220 This is kind of related.

00:45:33.400 There's a guy down in Arkansas named Aaron Spencer is running for sheriff.

00:45:37.080 And that's notable because this guy is currently charged and will soon be on, on trial for murder, specifically for killing a pedophile who was molesting his daughter.

00:45:47.980 And here he is announcing his candidacy.

00:45:49.880 Listen.

00:45:52.060 Hello, Lone Oak.

00:45:53.360 My name is Aaron Spencer.

00:45:54.760 Many of you know my story.

00:45:56.480 I'm the father who acted to protect his daughter when the system failed.

00:45:59.760 I'm also a husband, a combat veteran of the 82nd Airborne Division, a contractor, and a farmer.

00:46:06.140 And through my own fight for justice, I have seen firsthand the failures in law enforcement and in our circuit court.

00:46:12.940 And I refuse to stand by while others face these same failures.

00:46:18.040 That's why I'm announcing my candidacy to run for Lone Oak County Sheriff.

00:46:22.920 This campaign isn't about me.

00:46:24.800 It's about every parent, every neighbor, every family who deserves to feel safe in their homes and safe in their community.

00:46:31.900 It's about restoring trust where neighbors know law enforcement is on their side and families know that they will not be left alone in a moment of need.

00:46:42.160 Together, we can build a safer, stronger Lone Oak County for every family.

00:46:48.140 I'm Aaron Spencer, and I'm running for sheriff of Lone Oak County.

00:46:51.720 Well, now we see the diametric opposite.

00:46:56.240 Here's a leader of men.

00:46:57.200 Here's a guy who you want to have in charge of law enforcement in your community.

00:47:01.660 And reading a bit more from New York Post, it says,

00:47:04.740 A father accused of killing his 14-year-old daughter's rapist is running to be sheriff, claiming the legal system failed him by charging him with murder.

00:47:11.080 Aaron Spencer allegedly gunned down Michael Fossler, 67, after catching him driving off with his daughter,

00:47:18.020 whom Fossler had already been charged with grooming and abusing, according to court documents.

00:47:22.680 Now, this is candidacy.

00:47:23.700 We just heard that.

00:47:25.500 Spencer was charged with second-degree murder last October after allegedly killing Fossler when he found him in a truck with his daughter.

00:47:31.700 The dad told authorities he had driven around his neighborhood after discovering his daughter was missing,

00:47:36.020 then found her being driven away by Fossler, who had already been charged with multiple sexual offenses against Spencer's daughter. 0.67

00:47:42.160 He forced the accused rapist off the road and shot him.

00:47:45.800 And now he's going to be on trial for murder.

00:47:48.280 So this is, I mean, it's insane.

00:47:49.760 Not in saying that he's running for sheriff.

00:47:52.520 I think that's great.

00:47:53.620 I would definitely vote for him if I could.

00:47:56.120 But the fact that they're actually pursuing murder charges against this guy, like he's going to trial.

00:48:00.920 And keep in mind, this was in Arkansas.

00:48:04.120 And I know we like to think that red states are these bastions of sanity.

00:48:09.680 But this guy, I mean, we just talked about Kentucky and what's happening there.

00:48:13.420 I mean, this guy chased down a 67-year-old pedophile who had already been convicted of abusing this same child, found him abusing his daughter,

00:48:26.880 shot him, and now they're trying to put him in prison.

00:48:30.900 They're trying to take him away from his daughter, who he was protecting, and put him in prison.

00:48:37.460 And according to the mythology of the red state, right, like the conservative Bible belt red state, according to that mythology, the mythology is that the cops would have, they would have shown up, they would have seen what happened.

00:48:55.800 They would have, you know, you get the basic facts of the case.

00:48:59.380 It would have been really easy to establish. 0.57

00:49:00.800 Oh, he was driving away with this girl, he's a pedophile, you know, everything.

00:49:05.060 And rather than charge him with murder, they would have taken him out for a beer and congratulated him and then sent him on his way.

00:49:13.420 Like, that's the mythology of a place like Arkansas, is that that's how it would happen.

00:49:19.940 But instead, this is what they do.

00:49:24.820 If you act to defend yourself or your loved ones, the system will do everything in its power to destroy.

00:49:30.800 You.

00:49:32.360 And punish you. 0.77

00:49:34.520 And here's what makes this so much worse.

00:49:36.100 You know, it's not like this is a system where they enforce the letter of the law to a T.

00:49:41.880 Right?

00:49:42.340 They throw the book at anybody.

00:49:44.240 Law and order enforced by the book.

00:49:46.540 No mercy.

00:49:48.700 And so even if you shoot your daughter's abuser, they're going to go through it with a fine-toothed comb.

00:49:53.240 And if your actions don't comport with the letter of the law 100% the whole way through, they're going to throw you in prison.

00:50:02.980 That's not the system.

00:50:04.520 Okay?

00:50:04.980 That's not the way that it works.

00:50:06.400 And even if it did work that way, I would obviously still strenuously object to charging Spencer with a crime.

00:50:13.900 But that's not how it works.

00:50:16.520 Okay?

00:50:16.920 Spencer is not being charged and tried in the context of this by-the-book, pitiless justice system that just holds everybody accountable for the slightest infraction.

00:50:27.420 Right?

00:50:28.020 That's not what this is.

00:50:29.340 This is a system that only acts this way towards guys like Aaron Spencer. 0.98

00:50:37.100 But when it comes to your everyday lowlife, your thieves, your thugs, your hoodlums, your dysfunctional losers, your career criminals, your psychotic vagrants, your drugged-out, dangerous zombies, and so on.

00:50:54.980 For their sake, the system does everything it can to be kind and be merciful and give them a second chance. 0.81

00:51:06.180 Well, where's Aaron Spencer's second chance?

00:51:09.520 I mean, even if you think he did the wrong thing, which I don't know how you could possibly think that, there is nothing more right than killing the man who's abusing your daughter, trying to drive away with her kidnapper.

00:51:20.960 I mean, he's in the process of trying to kidnap your daughter. 0.98

00:51:24.160 A pedophile is kidnapping your daughter. 1.00

00:51:27.660 I cannot think of any more appropriate response than to shoot him and kill him and take your daughter back. 1.00

00:51:35.280 But even if you think, even if somehow you think that he did the wrong thing, I mean, even if you're in that, even if you're that deluded. 1.00

00:51:44.260 Okay, well, then why shouldn't he get a second chance?

00:51:50.340 Why aren't we sympathizing with his lived experience?

00:51:54.780 Why aren't we thinking about his mental state?

00:51:58.940 You know, his trauma, his very real trauma.

00:52:02.440 Like, all the nonsense that's constantly used to let off the worst humans on the planet, let them off the hook, we never use it for the sake of actual law-abiding citizens who are driven to take extreme action when they're put in extreme situations.

00:52:20.080 Daniel Penny, of course, is another example.

00:52:22.340 There are many others.

00:52:22.940 And that's the thing.

00:52:23.860 We like to say that this is a soft-on-crime system.

00:52:27.120 And I use that phrase, too, kind of a shorthand.

00:52:30.720 It's a convenient shorthand.

00:52:32.380 But it's not really true.

00:52:36.040 That would not be nearly as bad as the system that we currently have.

00:52:40.780 Because a soft-on-crime system, in that kind of system, Aaron Spencer, even if he did commit a crime, which he didn't, he would benefit also.

00:52:49.340 But if it was really a soft-on-crime system, then we would also say to him, well, you know, that's the attitude you would take.

00:52:58.160 He would benefit from that.

00:53:01.480 But we're not.

00:53:03.760 Actually, this system is merciless and severe when it wants to be.

00:53:09.800 The system is downright medieval in its approach to crime and punishment when it wants to be.

00:53:14.720 But it only wants to be when the accused criminal is somebody like Aaron Spencer, a law-abiding man, usually a white man, who has to do something extreme in defense of his loved ones.

00:53:31.460 And why is that the case?

00:53:34.000 Why do they come down on Aaron Spencer?

00:53:36.480 Why do they come down on Daniel Penny?

00:53:38.080 Because those men, what they did is a rebuke of the system itself.

00:53:44.980 It is the system defending itself.

00:53:49.080 Aaron Spencer and Daniel Penny, and there are many other examples, but just using those two, they tried to destroy Daniel Penny's life.

00:53:55.220 They tried to put him in prison.

00:53:56.200 It didn't work out.

00:53:57.140 They're going to try to do the same thing with Aaron Spencer.

00:53:58.980 But in both of those cases, those were men who had to step up and defend the innocent because the system failed to do it.

00:54:10.180 Jordan Neely, the psychotic vagrant, should have never been on that subway in the first place.

00:54:14.040 He should have been behind bars long ago. 0.97

00:54:16.660 This guy, this pedophile, should have been behind bars already. 0.77

00:54:21.600 The system failed to act.

00:54:23.980 These men had to step up in the system's place.

00:54:26.080 And so that's the crime that they committed, is by exposing the ineptitude of the system itself.

00:54:34.540 And for that reason, that's why they're trying to punish them.

00:54:37.300 And it is a horrendous injustice.

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00:56:17.600 Yesterday, of course, we honored Christopher Columbus and all the European pioneers who came in his footsteps to claim this land for Christ.

00:56:24.360 We celebrated the conquest of civilization over Stone Age savagery,

00:56:27.720 and we recommitted ourselves to defending civilization against the forces of chaos and barbarism that threatened it today.

00:56:33.940 And when I say we, of course, I'm not talking about low testosterone degenerates like Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson

00:56:40.040 or Minnesota Governor Tim Walz or the Buffalo Bills, all of whom decided to celebrate something called Indigenous Peoples Day on Sunday instead of Columbus Day, or rather on Monday.

00:56:51.200 Here was the official statement from the Democratic Party, quote,

00:56:54.120 On Indigenous Peoples Day, we honor our country's first people and celebrate their culture, traditions, and contributions.

00:56:59.820 We remain committed to honoring tribal sovereignty and working in true partnership to strengthen Native communities every day.

00:57:08.200 And this is a statement that's so poorly conceived and so utterly nonsensical that no matter who you are, regardless of your politics, you simply cannot defend it.

00:57:15.260 The country's first people were white Europeans, okay?

00:57:21.400 The country's, we're talking about the country, which is the United States of America.

00:57:26.940 The first people of this country were white Europeans.

00:57:30.700 That's just, it's a historical fact.

00:57:33.160 They're the ones who founded the United States.

00:57:36.060 They're the ones who populated it nearly exclusively in its initial years.

00:57:39.600 Indian tribes are not Indigenous to the United States of America, to the country of the United States of America.

00:57:47.140 They're not Indigenous to it in any way, shape, or form. 0.60

00:57:50.780 Now, you can make the case that some Indian tribes controlled their own territories before white Europeans arrived.

00:57:56.020 They were extraordinarily primitive and had no meaningful technology or civilization to speak of, but they did occupy the land.

00:58:02.100 That's true, but that still doesn't make those tribes Indigenous to the United States.

00:58:06.100 It doesn't even make them Indigenous to the Americas, because in every single case, that tribe brutally conquered some other tribe that used to live here. 0.77

00:58:15.460 Indian tribes were on this continent before white Europeans, but even they came from someplace else.

00:58:20.860 Nobody originates here by the strictest definition of the term.

00:58:23.480 But certainly, what cannot be disputed is that the primitive tribes were not the ones who formulated the country known as the United States.

00:58:32.860 That country was formed by, again, white Europeans. 0.71

00:58:36.340 And so white Europeans are the country's natives. 0.96

00:58:40.020 Saying that Indians are natives to the country because they were on the land first, it's like saying that the founder of Apple is whatever tribal chieftain ruled the land where Apple's offices were first built.

00:58:51.280 I mean, it makes no sense.

00:58:52.820 So really, no matter how you slice it, the official statement of the Democrat Party, their grand rejection of the idea of Columbus Day, is gibberish.

00:59:01.540 And indeed, that was true of every Democrat statement yesterday.

00:59:04.920 Here's what Ayanna Pressley wrote.

00:59:06.280 She apparently is still a congresswoman.

00:59:08.300 And she wrote, quote,

00:59:09.260 Now, left unsaid, coincidentally enough, is what contributions these allegedly indigenous people made to the U.S. exactly?

00:59:33.480 I mean, do they contribute electricity, medicine, civil engineering, architecture?

00:59:42.460 What do they contribute?

00:59:44.680 That's a valid question.

00:59:45.920 Ayanna Pressley doesn't say.

00:59:48.440 Neither does Cori Bush, who is definitely not a member of Congress anymore, but she seems to enjoy pretending that she is one.

00:59:53.460 And so yesterday, she took a break from magically healing the cancer of random hobos to post the following statement, which definitely is not the result of asking an AI chatbot to list 10 random Indian tribes.

01:00:05.760 Quote,

01:00:05.960 On Indigenous Peoples Day, we recognize that St. Louis sits on the ancestral lands of Chickasaw Nation, Kickapoo Tribe, Osage Nation, Otoe, Missouri Tribe, Quapaw Nation, and some others.

01:00:17.640 The U.S. must reckon with its colonial history and honor indigenous leadership.

01:00:23.460 Now, it's tempting to make all the usual responses to tripe like this.

01:00:27.720 We could ask why Cori Bush doesn't leave these ancestral lands if she's so bothered by the fact that she's sitting on them. 1.00

01:00:34.820 We could ask her to define the word reckon or to spell it without spellcheck or AI.

01:00:40.260 But really, it's not worth the effort because this is what you expect from Cori Bush and Ayanna Pressley and the Democrat Party.

01:00:45.500 And, you know, by now, we're all used to the fact that these people, along with the Buffalo Bills, despise this country and want to destroy Western civilization, which is why they want to tear down the great men who created it.

01:00:57.380 None of that is remotely surprising.

01:00:58.780 But there was at least one statement from yesterday that to many conservatives who still trust the establishment for some reason was somewhat surprising.

01:01:07.520 This was the statement from John Thune, who's the Senate Majority Leader.

01:01:11.140 So we're talking about a Republican, not just any Republican, but the highest ranking Republican in the Senate.

01:01:15.640 He replaced Mitch McConnell last year.

01:01:18.300 And here's what John Thune wrote, quote,

01:01:21.340 Today we celebrate Native American Day.

01:01:23.820 I'm proud to join South Dakotans in honoring the heritage and contributions of the Lakota, Dakota, and Nakota people. 1.00

01:01:31.300 Now, this is a statement that's completely indistinguishable from the bitter, unhinged, anti-American ramblings of complete morons like Cori Bush or Ayanna Pressley. 0.99

01:01:39.320 There's no daylight here whatsoever. 0.99

01:01:41.080 And to be clear, there is no federal holiday called Indigenous Peoples Day or Native American Day.

01:01:47.380 We have Columbus Day.

01:01:49.340 And even if there were a federal holiday called Indigenous Peoples Day, it would be absurd for any lawmaker, much less one calling himself a conservative, and much less the conservative leader in the Senate, to celebrate it.

01:02:01.760 These so-called Native people were living about 5,000 years behind the Western world. 0.80

01:02:07.880 They did not and could not contribute very much because they hadn't even invented the wheel or written language.

01:02:17.960 I mean, the Europeans contributed much more to them than the other way around.

01:02:24.460 I mean, it's like if an advanced species of alien were to land on our planet from another galaxy.

01:02:29.060 See, the very fact that they made it to us instead of us making it to them already means that they are light years beyond us in nearly every possible respect.

01:02:41.320 Now, we'll be able to contribute to their anthropological understanding of the Earth.

01:02:45.120 We'll be able to enlighten them about our own specific way of life, which they didn't know about.

01:02:49.780 But we're not going to be able to astonish them with our innovations.

01:02:54.680 We will be the astonished ones.

01:02:57.700 We will learn much more from them than they learned from us.

01:03:02.680 Now, maybe we'll learn a lot from them and then we'll be conquered by this advanced species of alien that have come.

01:03:13.880 But there's no question about where most like what direction most of the learning is happening.

01:03:19.120 OK, and that's why today is Columbus Day.

01:03:24.000 And and, you know, Native American Day or Indigenous People Day is nonsense.

01:03:29.380 These people were primitive in no uncertain terms, which is why it's absurd to glorify them.

01:03:34.560 We can be interested in them.

01:03:35.880 We can we can respect them.

01:03:37.020 We should.

01:03:38.660 And we should be.

01:03:39.540 It is.

01:03:39.860 It's interesting.

01:03:40.520 It's very interesting to learn about Native American history.

01:03:43.880 I'm fascinated by it personally.

01:03:47.420 But to elevate, to glorify primitive Stone Age cultures, cultures that often engaged in cannibalism and human sacrifice and all manner of savagery is just absurd.

01:04:00.340 Five years ago, during the BLM hysteria, a majority of congressional Republicans signed on to the Juneteenth nonsense. 0.85

01:04:06.100 That was the moment when it became clear to many conservatives that the Republican Party, you know, is in trouble.

01:04:11.140 If it wasn't clear to them before, it was clear that Republicans were surrendering in every in a very public fashion to moral panics that were engineered by the left.

01:04:20.520 But we are past that point, or at least we should be.

01:04:23.660 Republicans are winning in the culture for the first time in memory.

01:04:26.080 The absolute worst thing we can do when we're ahead is to validate the most destructive and incoherent myths that have been invented out of whole cloth by the communist anti-American left.

01:04:36.360 And make no mistake, this is a recent invention of the left.

01:04:39.760 Go back and look up Bill Clinton's proclamation for Columbus Day in 2000.

01:04:43.960 It's interesting to go back and look at this now.

01:04:45.380 Here's what he said.

01:04:45.900 Quote, while Christopher Columbus's epic voyage took place almost three centuries before the founding of our democracy, his journey helped shape our national experience and offers important lessons as we chart our own course for the 21st century.

01:04:57.820 One of the most valuable of those lessons is the importance of sustaining our spirit of adventure, our willingness to explore new concepts and new horizons.

01:05:04.460 Columbus, after careful study and planning, rejected the conventional thinking of his time, sailed for the open seas, and succeeded in opening up a new world for the people of Europe.

01:05:12.880 I mean, it's like, speaking of coming from a different planet, it's like that might as well have been written on a different planet.

01:05:21.580 That is not, that's what Democrats used to believe.

01:05:24.520 It wasn't all that long ago.

01:05:27.540 That was a whole statement about Columbus without even one sentence talking about our guilt or lamenting the evils of colonialism or any of that.

01:05:38.460 It was just a statement saying Columbus was a great man.

01:05:43.660 We should be grateful for him.

01:05:46.620 That's what Democrats used to believe.

01:05:48.100 They used to understand or pretend to understand that Columbus is a great man of history because he did great things.

01:05:54.200 By contrast, here's what Joe Biden said on Columbus Day last year.

01:05:57.240 Quote, this is about, this is, you know, about 25 years later.

01:06:01.120 This is how the Democrats were talking about it.

01:06:03.800 Then for many Italian-Americans, the story of Christopher Columbus's voyage crossing the Atlantic on behalf of Queen Isabella I and King Ferdinand II remains a source of pride.

01:06:12.440 And then Biden proceeded to ramble on about so-called indigenous folks, saying that they made vast contributions to the world.

01:06:18.140 Again, without listing any of them.

01:06:21.520 Now, transformation of the Democrat Party is unmistakable.

01:06:23.500 Over the past two decades, they've made a conscious decision to rewrite history, condemn our forefathers, and glorify barbarism.

01:06:30.320 They're not hiding their goal, which is to make the United States just as primitive as the random tribes that they hastily look up on Wikipedia. 0.89

01:06:37.100 That's the decision that Democrats have made, which is one of the reasons why they're an extremely unpopular party at the moment.

01:06:42.140 If Republican leaders, for some reason, make the same choice, then they too will destroy their party and any credibility it has.

01:06:47.820 And ultimately, they'll destroy this country.

01:06:49.920 That's an outcome that no conservative and no reasonable person can tolerate.

01:06:55.520 And that is why John Thune, who celebrated a fake Indigenous Peoples Day while ignoring Christopher Columbus, is today canceled.

01:07:03.680 That will do it for the show today.

01:07:04.560 Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening.

01:07:05.620 Talk to you tomorrow.

01:07:06.860 Have a great day.

01:07:08.100 Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - October 14, 2025

Ep. 1672 - An Update On The Shocking Crime That Democrats Don't Want You To Know About

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