The Matt Walsh Show - October 16, 2025


Ep. 1674 - Could This Supreme Court Case DESTROY The Democrats Permanently？


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1 hour and 5 minutes

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Summary

Today on the Matt Walsh Show, we ll talk about the absolutely massive Supreme Court case that might make it impossible for Democrats to ever win a majority in the House of Representatives ever again. Also, the thugs who attacked Big Balls will not serve any time in jail. The View complains that Republicans won t come on the show. Well, I know one Republican who would love to come on. And NBC News shuts down its gay and black news divisions. Why do they even have divisions in the first place? What do those divisions do?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, we'll talk about the absolutely massive Supreme Court case that
00:00:03.760 might make it impossible for Democrats to ever win a majority in the House of Representatives
00:00:07.520 ever again. This is big. More people should be talking about it and we'll talk about it today.
00:00:11.520 Also, the thugs who attack big balls will not serve any time in jail. Big surprise.
00:00:17.120 The View complains that Republicans won't come on the show. Well, I know one Republican who
00:00:21.240 would love to come on the show. And NBC News shuts down its gay news and black news divisions.
00:00:27.240 Why do they even have those divisions in the first place? What do those divisions do?
00:00:30.500 We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.
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00:02:07.600 When Politico ran that hit piece about the supposedly racist and horrifying messages in that Young
00:02:13.120 Republicans group chat, which we discussed yesterday, I have to admit that I didn't imagine
00:02:17.060 in my wildest dreams where the story would go next. I had no idea that, of all people,
00:02:23.000 Supreme Court Justice Kentonji Brown-Jackson would do something to help the Republicans who are being
00:02:28.180 canceled in this smear campaign. After all, Kentonji Brown-Jackson, like every other Supreme
00:02:33.200 Court justice appointed by a Democrat, is a rabid left-wing partisan. She also has an IQ of
00:02:37.580 approximately room temperature in Celsius. And despite all that, in her own special way,
00:02:42.520 Kentonji Brown-Jackson has stepped in. She's come to the rescue. She's done the Young
00:02:48.240 Republicans a solid. Now, of course, Jackson didn't defend the Young Republicans on purpose.
00:02:54.140 This is a woman who probably can't spell her own name, if we're being honest, like a caterpillar or
00:02:59.560 an amoeba. She's barely capable of making any conscious decisions at all. Instead, Jackson bailed
00:03:05.020 out the Republicans inadvertently without even realizing it. And she did it by drawing fire away from
00:03:10.680 them. She ran interference, if you will, by dropping the Supreme Court equivalent of an N-bomb.
00:03:17.880 It's as if she read those private messages from the political article and said,
00:03:21.860 these slurs are tame and unoriginal at best. We could do much better or worse, depending on
00:03:28.620 your perspective. And so Kentonji Brown-Jackson decided during oral arguments at the Supreme Court
00:03:34.440 to announce that, in her view, from a highly educated legal perspective, black people are
00:03:41.520 disabled, just like people who are disabled on the Americans with Disability Act.
00:03:47.180 And this is a line that no one in that highly offensive Young Republican chat was racist enough
00:03:53.760 to utter. Kentonji Brown-Jackson, really, she was dreaming big on this one. It's a line of reasoning
00:04:00.180 that, in any other context, you might expect to hear from, I don't know, Klansmen or Joe Biden.
00:04:07.120 But for Kentonji Brown-Jackson, it came naturally, in open court. This is from oral arguments yesterday.
00:04:14.100 Listen.
00:04:15.060 Congress passed the Americans with Disabilities Act against the backdrop of a world that was generally
00:04:21.340 not accessible to people with disabilities. And so it was discriminatory, in effect, because these folks
00:04:29.080 were not able to access these buildings. And it didn't matter whether the person who built the
00:04:36.240 building or the person who owned the building intended for them to be exclusionary. That's
00:04:42.900 irrelevant. Congress said the facilities have to be made equally open to people with disabilities,
00:04:48.960 if readily possible. I guess I don't understand why that's not what's happening here. The idea
00:04:56.420 in Section 2 is that we are responding to current-day manifestations of past and present decisions
00:05:05.580 that disadvantage minorities and make it so that they don't have equal access to the voting
00:05:11.940 system, right? They're disabled. In fact, we use the word disabled in Milligan. We say that's a way
00:05:19.600 in which you see that these processes are not equally open.
00:05:24.000 They don't have access to the voting system, Kentonji Brown-Jackson says, referring to Black people.
00:05:31.360 They're disabled. Now, in a moment, we'll get into the context here and the precise legal argument that she is
00:05:39.320 attempting to make. But if I'm an editor at Politico, and I'm not, thank God, this would definitely be a
00:05:47.940 cancel-worthy line. You will not find any imaginary white supremacist, even in the fevered imagination
00:05:53.760 of Merrick Garland, who would come up with content like this. But here we are. We're being told that
00:06:00.560 Black people are basically disabled. Now, of course, in this case, because Kentonji Brown-Jackson was
00:06:07.200 allegedly making a legal argument in a case before the Supreme Court, we're supposed to look the other
00:06:12.500 way and pretend that she was making an intelligent point. The problem, though, for Democrats is that,
00:06:19.400 no, Kentonji Brown-Jackson was not making an intelligent point. And as a result, it looks like
00:06:25.100 they're going to lose this particular case. The majority of the justices on the Supreme Court
00:06:30.260 made that clear during these oral arguments. And that's big news, because this is not just any
00:06:38.220 random case. This is a big one. If Democrats lose this case, as it appears they probably will,
00:06:46.640 then the result will be totally catastrophic for the Democrat Party. We're talking about a disaster
00:06:53.040 unlike anything in political history in this country. I mean, it's not an exaggeration to say
00:07:00.220 that this is easily one of the most important Supreme Court cases of all time. It's a case that will
00:07:05.480 finally destroy once and for all a fraudulent system that Democrats have relied on for decades
00:07:11.980 to win dozens of seats in Congress. They've been rigging the game for generations. They've been
00:07:18.960 stealing elections in plain sight. And now it's probably coming to an end. As a party, Democrats
00:07:26.120 could be absolutely decimated by what's about to happen, which, of course, is great news.
00:07:32.160 So let's back up and talk at some length about the case that Ketanji Brown Jackson was dealing with
00:07:37.720 when she made that comment. Here's how they're describing the case on MSNBC to give you some
00:07:43.900 background and some sense of how they're panicking on the left for good reason. Watch.
00:07:50.800 Tell me what was argued in front of the Supreme Court today and where it appears the justices were
00:07:57.540 likely to fall. So lawyers argued that Louisiana violated the Constitution when it drew a second
00:08:06.360 majority black district in order to comply with the Voting Rights Act. For decades, the Supreme Court
00:08:12.880 has interpreted the Voting Rights Act to require these opportunity districts that have large black
00:08:19.020 and brown populations so that these communities can elect the representatives of their choice.
00:08:23.980 But today, lawyers argued that that is unconstitutional, that taking race into account
00:08:29.460 to draw districts, even if it is designed to boost representation for minorities, even if it is
00:08:35.500 designed to remedy past discrimination against minorities, that that violates the Equal Protection
00:08:41.060 Clause by considering race and that the Constitution must be colorblind. And it sounded like a majority of
00:08:47.540 the justices are leaning toward embracing some form of that argument, which would essentially dismantle the
00:08:53.340 Voting Rights Act as we know it today. How do you know that that's the way that they were leaning?
00:08:58.380 All six of the Republican appointed justices indicated that they think that the Voting Rights Act has
00:09:03.520 essentially outlived its usefulness. If this does happen, if it is overturned, if your assessment of where they're
00:09:09.520 leaning is correct, let us show what could be impacted. This is a few maps showing VRA protected congressional
00:09:19.500 districts that could be affected. There's one in Louisiana, there is another in Alabama, and there is another in Texas. And those are the number of specific districts that could change. You see Florida in there as well and a few other states.
00:09:34.620 So they're upset because the Voting Rights Act was one of the most significant pieces of civil rights era legislation. And when I say significant, I mean that it's given the Democrat Party an extraordinary amount of unearned political power for many decades. And now based on oral arguments yesterday, the Supreme Court, it's likely to be struck down. Now, on the surface, the Voting Rights Act was a reasonable sounding law.
00:10:00.340 Because it made it illegal to deny any American their right to vote or discriminate against voters on account of their skin color. Most people would agree with that basic idea. The point at the time was to ensure that there wouldn't be a conspiracy to gerrymander congressional districts in such a way as to dilute the black vote.
00:10:20.820 For example, it would be illegal under the Voting Rights Act for a state government to intentionally draw its congressional district maps so that in every district, black people made up a very tiny percentage of the population.
00:10:33.260 And this could be a little confusing. So let's break this down. Let's say that a town is holding an election for dog catcher. And the winner of the election is the candidate who wins a majority of the town's five districts.
00:10:46.160 So let's say the town has 150 white people and 75 black people. Now, under the Voting Rights Act, it would be illegal for the town's leadership to go out of its way to draw the district map so that all of the 75 black people are located in one strangely shaped district while the 150 white people occupy the other four districts.
00:11:05.480 That would be a clear effort to dilute the vote along racial lines and minimize the black vote so they don't have any impact on the outcome of the election.
00:11:16.160 And so all that seems reasonable enough. The problem is that, like every other piece of civil rights legislation, the scope of the Voting Rights Act has expanded dramatically over the years.
00:11:27.340 And this has happened through amendments and through court cases. And now, as a result of all these changes,
00:11:33.740 is any state that doesn't have enough majority black districts is deemed to be in violation of the law under the theory of disparate impact.
00:11:43.480 In other words, even if there was no intentional discrimination in drawing the congressional districts, then courts will still conclude that the law has been violated if not enough districts are majority black.
00:11:54.940 So, to go back to the dog catcher example, let's say that each of the five districts in the town has 15 black people and 30 white people.
00:12:09.180 Now, in other words, there are no majority black districts.
00:12:12.940 The black people and white people are evenly distributed.
00:12:14.940 And let's say that happened by accident.
00:12:18.200 The town split the districts based on geography, and that's how the demographics shook out.
00:12:25.960 Now, in this case, without a doubt, a court would rule that the arrangement is illegal, even if there is a completely reasonable justification for the map.
00:12:37.160 There's no racial race has not been taken into account.
00:12:40.720 But the mere fact that black people don't have a majority district by itself is supposedly evidence of discrimination, given that the town has a lot of black people overall.
00:12:51.480 And then, once courts decide that a state doesn't have enough majority black districts, courts will order states to redraw their electoral maps so that more majority black districts would be created.
00:13:02.280 So, we went from a law that's supposed to prevent states from coming up with districts to account for race.
00:13:13.200 Now, the law is used to require states to do exactly that thing.
00:13:19.780 So, a couple of years ago, that's exactly what happened to the state of Louisiana.
00:13:23.580 In 2022, the state drew a congressional map that had six districts, and only one of those districts was majority black.
00:13:31.000 There was no evidence of intentional discrimination by the state of Louisiana, or anything like that.
00:13:37.920 In fact, Louisiana made a strong argument that they had drawn the maps to maximize the political advantages for the Republican Party, not to exclude any racial group.
00:13:46.000 But under the Voting Rights Act, evidence of intentional discrimination isn't needed.
00:13:51.620 The mere fact that there was only one majority black district, according to the courts, was a problem.
00:13:56.380 So, you're probably beginning to see the issue here.
00:13:59.740 Black people, as a demographic group, overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
00:14:03.660 And it's rational, from a political perspective, for Republicans to draw districts to dilute the strength of Democrat-aligned voters.
00:14:11.700 And that's legal.
00:14:13.660 Both parties do it.
00:14:15.260 It is completely legal.
00:14:16.920 The only thing that's impermissible is to dilute black people's votes because they're black.
00:14:23.360 That's it.
00:14:24.940 So, effectively, Louisiana is being called racist for doing something that they're legally entitled to do,
00:14:30.700 simply because it happens to have a disproportionate impact on black people.
00:14:35.960 So, therefore, the state of Louisiana was ordered by a federal court to create a new majority black district,
00:14:42.340 because not enough majority black districts existed.
00:14:44.700 And we keep using this phrase, not enough majority black districts.
00:14:48.640 Well, who decides what's enough?
00:14:51.340 That's one of the big problems here.
00:14:53.060 It's totally arbitrary.
00:14:54.700 It's just some federal judge looking at a state and saying, you know, you should have more.
00:15:00.720 You know, you have two, you should have three.
00:15:05.000 Well, where did you come up with that number?
00:15:07.840 Came up with it, it appeared to me in a dream.
00:15:12.000 That's what's been happening.
00:15:12.880 So, in Louisiana, they had to go back and carve up the electoral map and lose a member of Congress in the process
00:15:18.760 to create a new district where black voters were in the majority.
00:15:23.120 And here's what Louisiana came up with.
00:15:25.240 Okay, this is the new map.
00:15:28.500 You can see it on the screen.
00:15:29.620 This is obviously an absurd district.
00:15:34.500 If you're listening to the audio podcast, the new district stretches across the entire length of the state from northwest to southeast.
00:15:44.240 It cuts across urban areas, rural areas, swampland, and so on.
00:15:49.480 It looks like a stretch mark across the entire state.
00:15:52.240 It looks like the state of Louisiana just lost a bunch of weight on Ozempic or something.
00:15:56.440 It's extremely obvious that the people living in this district have nothing in common with each other except their skin color.
00:16:02.900 In other words, to remedy non-existent racism, the state of Louisiana was ordered by a federal court to draw a map that excludes as many white people as possible.
00:16:12.060 They were ordered to be racist, to fight racism, and that's what the Voting Rights Act is all about, certainly at least what it's become.
00:16:24.880 After Louisiana was forced by the courts to draw this district, to their great credit, several citizens in the state filed a lawsuit over it, and now that lawsuit is before the Supreme Court.
00:16:34.380 And the question is, can states be forced to draw districts like that one to explicitly exclude as many white people as possible if the states don't have enough majority black districts?
00:16:49.060 In other words, is it acceptable under our Constitution to openly and flagrantly discriminate against white voters in order to remedy alleged past discrimination?
00:16:57.760 Now, right now, it seems like the Supreme Court is going to answer this question correctly, which is with a resounding no, of course not.
00:17:07.240 And if that's ultimately the court's decision, Democrats will lose nearly two dozen seats in Congress immediately.
00:17:14.040 They'd have a very difficult time obtaining a majority in the House of Representatives ever again.
00:17:19.360 And that's because, as you saw earlier, Louisiana isn't the only state that has artificial majority black districts like this.
00:17:25.320 Several other states in the South do as well.
00:17:28.780 Here's CNN assessing the potential damage to the Democrats.
00:17:31.880 Listen.
00:17:33.340 Don't forget, the Supreme Court is considering what could really be the end of the Voting Rights Act, which would protect minority groups.
00:17:41.660 So you don't have a state that's half black, for example, that elects only one congressional member and everybody else goes to the Republicans that would represent that population in some way.
00:17:52.200 So if that is gutted, Democrats could lose 19 seats.
00:17:57.860 This would be a huge amount.
00:17:59.980 Now, to put this number in context, Democrats currently have 213 members in the House.
00:18:04.840 That's six fewer members than Republicans.
00:18:07.240 In the Voting Rights Act, if the Voting Rights Act is ruled unconstitutional, then Democrats will potentially lose 19 seats, more than three times the current differential in the House.
00:18:16.080 That's how important this civil rights era law has been for Democrats' political prospects as a party.
00:18:24.600 They've been completely dependent on this corrupt and obviously immoral law.
00:18:31.520 And obviously unconstitutional.
00:18:33.120 Here's another way to visualize the potential change to the electoral map.
00:18:38.660 As you can see, an awful lot of blue districts will be wiped off the map instantly.
00:18:44.120 And most people don't have any idea about this, but it's true.
00:18:46.840 The key to Democrats' political power is that they have fundamentally rigged the system.
00:18:52.280 Democrats have been rigging it for decades.
00:18:54.940 When Trump says that 2020 was rigged, he's right.
00:18:57.480 And every election before that was also rigged, stretching back decades.
00:19:03.200 That's why they've been trying to intimidate and assassinate Supreme Court justices.
00:19:06.780 They know that a conservative court could dismantle their entire party.
00:19:11.480 And it looks like that's exactly what's going to happen.
00:19:14.260 This is obviously the right outcome.
00:19:16.220 First of all, as the lawyers pointed out yesterday at the Supreme Court,
00:19:19.780 the Voting Rights Act, as it's currently being implemented,
00:19:23.340 completely ignores situations where white people are in the minority.
00:19:27.480 There are no congressional maps that are being redrawn anywhere in the country
00:19:31.140 because a state doesn't have enough majority white districts.
00:19:35.060 And that's not because we don't have white people in the minority in many places in the country.
00:19:39.040 There are plenty of districts in California where white people are in the minority.
00:19:43.680 You know, that wasn't the case when the Voting Rights Act was signed into law, but it's true now.
00:19:48.380 And yet the state of California is not being forced to redraw districts
00:19:51.980 so that whites have a majority anywhere.
00:19:54.000 Instead, white people are told to enjoy their minority status
00:19:58.620 as the street signs all transition to Spanish.
00:20:02.540 Here's another moment from yesterday's oral arguments where the deputy solicitor general
00:20:06.180 makes exactly this point to Sonia Sotomayor.
00:20:10.000 That even white Republicans or white Democrats won't vote for black candidates.
00:20:19.960 Right.
00:20:20.180 But if these were white Democrats, there's no reason to think they would have a second district.
00:20:24.680 None.
00:20:25.760 And so what is happening here is their argument is because these Democrats happen to be black,
00:20:30.660 they get a second district.
00:20:32.180 If they were all white, we all agree they wouldn't get a second district.
00:20:35.000 That is literally the definition of race subordinating traditional principles.
00:20:41.880 If these were white Democrats, there's no reason to think they would have a second district.
00:20:45.820 None.
00:20:46.120 So their argument is because these Democrats happen to be black, they get a second district.
00:20:49.620 If they were white, we all agree they wouldn't get a second district.
00:20:51.980 That's literally a definition of race subordinating traditional principles.
00:20:55.720 That's what he said.
00:20:57.580 Now, no matter how much Democrats scream about equity and past discrimination,
00:21:02.620 there's no getting around it.
00:21:04.140 Our Constitution does not permit open racial discrimination, period.
00:21:09.560 Even if you're supposedly doing it for the right reasons or whatever.
00:21:14.960 It is, they're not the right reasons, but even if you are, doesn't matter what your intentions are.
00:21:20.700 The Supreme Court was willing to entertain the idea of affirmative action for many years,
00:21:24.540 which is a disaster.
00:21:27.120 But we're past that now.
00:21:29.000 And the Supreme Court has passed it too.
00:21:30.800 We'll play one more clip from these oral arguments because it summarizes how weak the arguments from the left were and are.
00:21:38.460 Here's an attorney with the NAACP.
00:21:41.800 Listen to this.
00:21:42.360 That's right, and in the state of Louisiana, that analysis was conducted in the Nairn case.
00:21:47.880 And it was clear that regardless of party, white Democrats were not voting for black candidates, whether they were Democrats or not.
00:21:57.760 And we know that there is such a significant chasm between how black and white voters vote in Louisiana that there's no question that even if there is some correlation between race and party,
00:22:10.500 that race is the driving factor, her argument is that, quote, white Democrats were not voting for black candidates, whether they were Democrats or not.
00:22:21.520 And therefore, we need to have more majority black districts.
00:22:24.840 Now, think about what they're saying here.
00:22:27.300 In effect, the NAACP is making the argument that unless black people get elected, then our democracy isn't working and the Constitution is being violated.
00:22:39.140 Black people now have a constitutional right to get a lot of votes, apparently, as well, instead of, like, earning the votes.
00:22:49.240 They have a right to them.
00:22:50.680 Never mind the fact that white people vote for black candidates all the time.
00:22:56.800 Barack Obama was the president for eight years.
00:23:00.160 There are plenty of black politicians who hold elected office in the GOP.
00:23:05.720 Never mind the fact that with this argument, the NAACP is basically admitting that they see black people as a monolithic voting bloc that always supports Democrats.
00:23:14.740 None of their arguments make any sense under their own framework.
00:23:17.780 It's a complete debacle.
00:23:18.900 And the Supreme Court recognizes that.
00:23:21.720 What we're seeing here pretty clearly is that Democrats are flailing around, desperately trying to preserve those 19 stolen seats in the House.
00:23:29.740 They're throwing every imaginable argument at the wall, and they're being, as usual, as dishonest as they possibly can be.
00:23:35.680 But it wasn't that long ago, you know, back during the Obama years, when Democrats were more transparent about their goals as they related to the Voting Rights Act.
00:23:42.640 Under the Obama administration, the Obama DOJ rejected a North Carolina town's effort to switch to nonpartisan voting, saying the change was, quote, likely to reduce the ability of blacks to elect candidates of choice.
00:23:55.820 In other words, according to the Obama DOJ, black people just vote for Democrats automatically, out of habit.
00:24:05.980 So if the candidate was nonpartisan, then the argument was that Democrats, you know, that wouldn't be able to figure out who to vote for.
00:24:14.920 And therefore, in order to comply with the Voting Rights Act, states have to elect more Democrats.
00:24:21.520 That was the official position of the Obama DOJ.
00:24:23.920 They put it in writing.
00:24:26.040 They just admitted that the whole point of civil rights law is to benefit one political party.
00:24:32.560 Nearly two decades later, Democrats' arguments have become even more convoluted.
00:24:36.380 But they haven't become more persuasive.
00:24:40.640 Everyone, including the conservatives on the Supreme Court, see exactly what's going on here.
00:24:45.340 The Voting Rights Act, like so many other relics of the civil rights era, is anti-white.
00:24:51.420 It's morally wrong.
00:24:53.400 It's unconstitutional.
00:24:55.380 It's an impediment to America's progress.
00:24:57.720 The only beneficiary has been the Democrat Party, which has used the Voting Rights Act to rig thousands of elections.
00:25:06.360 And when they lose that power, which it seems is about to happen, then we'll see exactly what voters think of them.
00:25:13.960 We'll see if they really deserve to have those 19 extra seats in the House.
00:25:19.280 And nothing is more terrifying to these self-described defenders of democracy than that.
00:25:24.640 Nor should it be.
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00:26:51.520 won't shut up about their fancy beans or whatever special creamer they had.
00:26:55.540 Then they spend the next two hours dealing with the bloating and stomach issues that come with it.
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00:28:18.820 Okay, so day three on the new set.
00:28:22.060 Again, I guess we nailed the set because I haven't seen a bunch of comments picking it apart
00:28:26.540 and pointing out all the flaws.
00:28:30.020 And I know I can count on you guys for that feedback, which I do appreciate.
00:28:35.140 I do appreciate it.
00:28:36.140 I actually do.
00:28:36.680 You know, everyone else in this space, it seems like they have fans who are constantly like,
00:28:41.400 you're so amazing.
00:28:42.560 Everything you do is wonderful.
00:28:43.940 And meanwhile, for me, my comments are always,
00:28:47.860 hey, Matt, your shirt looks gay.
00:28:49.860 Comb your hair.
00:28:50.560 Your set is terrible.
00:28:51.440 You know, it's always like that, which I do legitimately appreciate.
00:28:55.040 So, but now I know that people do like the set because otherwise they'd tell me.
00:28:59.340 Like the set.
00:29:00.000 They like the fish.
00:29:01.400 The fish is the main thing.
00:29:02.580 Which is great.
00:29:06.060 We begin with a report from the Post Millennial.
00:29:09.140 And it says, reading now,
00:29:12.780 the teen attackers who jumped former Doge employee Edward Korstein on August 3rd,
00:29:19.080 otherwise known as Big Balls, have been sentenced only to probation.
00:29:23.000 This is despite the Trump administration's best efforts to clean up not only the streets of Washington, D.C.,
00:29:27.940 but also to deal with problematic justice system in the district.
00:29:31.700 The two teens were able to avoid jail time after pleading guilty to simple assault.
00:29:35.860 But Judge Kendra Briggs noted that as both were charged in juvenile court,
00:29:41.640 the goal is rehabilitation, not punishment.
00:29:46.340 Those teens, a boy and a girl from Hyattsville, were sentenced to probation only.
00:29:52.720 Briggs said to one of them, the girl,
00:29:55.100 I know you're not unfamiliar with trauma.
00:29:57.080 I don't disagree that the trauma you've suffered in life is how you ended up on U Street that day.
00:30:02.340 But I think you have to think about the trauma that you're inflicting on others
00:30:05.160 when you engage in the activities that you all chose to engage in a couple of months ago.
00:30:10.080 And the girl's attorney said,
00:30:11.540 I've seen a positive change just in the time that I've known her.
00:30:14.660 I've seen her making friends, seen her start work.
00:30:17.040 I've seen her make real attempts at following the conditions in this court.
00:30:20.860 And the attorney said that the girl is anxious and stressed while in court.
00:30:24.620 Well, if she's anxious and stressed, then, yeah, well, then we have to let her go.
00:30:30.320 We wouldn't want the poor girl who viciously beat an innocent person.
00:30:36.540 We wouldn't want her to feel anxious.
00:30:38.780 We wouldn't want her to have anxiety, would we?
00:30:45.660 Because that's what they did, by the way.
00:30:47.060 They viciously beat these innocent people.
00:30:51.140 Now, you know, a lot of people are assuming that this absurdly lenient treatment from the judge
00:30:58.500 is politically motivated.
00:31:00.440 She's doing this because big balls worked for Elon Musk.
00:31:03.580 And I'm sure that didn't help his case.
00:31:05.360 But, you know, politics, I don't think, were the decisive factor here.
00:31:09.740 Even if big balls worked as anything, even if he worked as a manager at Target, okay,
00:31:15.800 if he was manager big balls at Target, I think the result would have been the same.
00:31:18.960 Because the determining factor is not politics.
00:31:20.900 The determining factor is race.
00:31:23.660 You know, the attackers are black.
00:31:25.540 And that means that they are victims of a systemically racist system.
00:31:29.960 And that means that their crimes are the system's fault.
00:31:33.420 And they should be let go.
00:31:34.880 That's the logic.
00:31:35.860 That's why the judge made this decision.
00:31:37.940 It's about race.
00:31:40.160 And, you know, I get attacked all the time now because I'm a woke right.
00:31:44.700 I'm a member of the woke right, whatever that.
00:31:46.620 I still don't know what that means, but that's what I'm accused of.
00:31:49.240 There's been another flare-up of these attacks over the past few days.
00:31:53.400 And one of the things that makes me woke right, I'm told, is that I talk about race sometimes.
00:32:00.760 But this is why I talk about it.
00:32:03.980 You know, I make something about race if it is about race.
00:32:08.280 Taking the position that race is always irrelevant and should never be talked about is asinine.
00:32:12.160 And there are some conservatives that that's what they want to do.
00:32:15.820 They don't ever want to talk about it.
00:32:17.120 They want to pretend that it's never relevant.
00:32:21.000 That it's not a real thing.
00:32:22.300 It's not relevant.
00:32:23.040 We should never.
00:32:23.840 And that is ridiculous.
00:32:26.120 And how has that worked out, by the way?
00:32:28.580 Just pretending it doesn't exist and it's not relevant to anything.
00:32:31.920 Like, how has that worked out?
00:32:33.260 How has that worked out?
00:32:36.540 Sometimes it's a very relevant fact.
00:32:38.020 And when we're talking about the problems in the criminal justice system, you cannot avoid talking about it.
00:32:42.320 If you want to actually say something true and useful, then you can't avoid it.
00:32:47.260 You know, one of the primary reasons why we have what is often called a soft-on-crime system is because of the belief, the doctrine, that black offenders are automatically victims because they're black.
00:32:56.720 So, yeah, race is a factor here.
00:32:58.480 If these attackers were white and the victims were black, then we all know.
00:33:03.020 We all know, we all know, the sentence would not be nearly as lenient.
00:33:10.060 We all know that.
00:33:10.860 So don't pretend, don't, don't, stop, stop, stop with the bull.
00:33:13.980 Just stop with it.
00:33:17.020 We all know that.
00:33:18.820 And if acknowledging that makes me woke right or whatever, then fine.
00:33:24.000 Fine.
00:33:25.580 But let's go back and look at this.
00:33:27.160 The section of the article where she says trauma, I know you're not unfamiliar with trauma, the trauma you've suffered in your life.
00:33:41.140 And, you know, they want to rehabilitate.
00:33:42.700 So, you know, she only committed those crimes because of the trauma that she's experienced.
00:33:47.340 If her life had been different, then she wouldn't have ended up on U Street that day.
00:33:54.260 Which, of course, is true.
00:33:56.500 I mean, that's true of anyone and any choice that any of us make at all.
00:34:01.340 I mean, you could take anything that I've done in my life, good or bad.
00:34:05.920 If my life up to that point had been significantly different, I would not have done that thing.
00:34:10.620 If I grew up wealthy, then I would have made different choices.
00:34:17.000 I would have had different experiences.
00:34:18.520 If I grew up as a goat herder in Mongolia, then every choice I made in my life would have been different.
00:34:25.920 So you could take any criminal, any criminal, and say, well, if not for these events in your life, you wouldn't have done this.
00:34:34.260 That's always true.
00:34:35.760 That's just the nature of human existence.
00:34:37.600 And so what?
00:34:38.120 The fact is that your life is what it is.
00:34:40.660 You had the experiences you had.
00:34:43.480 If you suffered trauma in your life, I'm sorry about that, but it happened.
00:34:48.940 It happened.
00:34:50.380 It just happened.
00:34:53.580 Nothing can be done about it now.
00:34:57.180 And you're still a human being who makes conscious choices.
00:35:01.200 And if you make a bad choice, you've got to be held accountable for it.
00:35:04.080 So going back and saying, well, I wouldn't have made this choice if X, Y, and Z hadn't happened 10 years ago.
00:35:11.740 So?
00:35:12.520 What does that have to do with anything?
00:35:16.060 It's like if somebody runs into your...
00:35:17.500 It's like if someone rear-ends you in traffic.
00:35:21.320 You know, they're on their way to go to Walgreens.
00:35:24.260 They're running an errand, and you're sitting at a stoplight.
00:35:26.620 They rear-end you.
00:35:27.100 And they hop out of their car and say, no, no, no.
00:35:29.760 Well, if I hadn't had to go to Walgreens, this wouldn't have happened.
00:35:34.780 Well, yeah, but so?
00:35:37.140 I mean, right.
00:35:37.680 If you had been doing something else today, then this would not have happened.
00:35:41.000 But this did happen because you did this.
00:35:43.800 And so I don't see how retracing our steps and pointing out that if you had done something else, you would have done something else.
00:35:50.340 I don't see how that helps anything.
00:35:51.900 I don't see what relevance that has.
00:35:58.220 And that's why these, you know, that's why these people should have to pay.
00:36:06.580 But the judge wants to rehabilitate instead.
00:36:09.960 And here's the thing about that.
00:36:10.840 I mean, obviously, you've heard my rant many, many times about this.
00:36:14.020 You know that, in my view, the primary purpose of the criminal justice system is certainly not rehabilitation.
00:36:19.860 It's not even to segregate dangerous people from society, although that is part of the point.
00:36:25.080 But the primary point is punishment.
00:36:27.480 That's why we have the system to punish the guilty.
00:36:30.980 You know, that's justice.
00:36:32.600 And that's why these two people should be going to prison for a long time.
00:36:35.120 But rather than, you know, rather than monologuing about that for the nine billionth time.
00:36:40.340 Let's instead take this logic at face value.
00:36:42.600 Let's do that.
00:36:44.680 Let's take the judge at her word.
00:36:46.100 Let's just assume, for the sake of argument, that our primary concern should be the rehabilitation of these violent thugs.
00:36:58.160 Okay, well, guess what?
00:37:00.260 That's all the more reason to send them to prison.
00:37:03.120 That's all the more reason to severely punish them.
00:37:05.740 If I agreed that our goal should be rehabilitation, I would still be saying, send them to prison.
00:37:15.240 You know, this is the problem.
00:37:16.400 When these judges say, well, our goal is rehabilitation, not punishment.
00:37:20.500 It's like saying that, you know, your goal in working out is to lose weight, not to break a sweat.
00:37:26.560 Which, okay, fine, the goal is not to break a sweat.
00:37:31.520 That's not the goal.
00:37:33.540 But you aren't going to lose weight unless you do break a sweat.
00:37:38.920 The sweating is a necessary step towards the end goal, which is to lose weight.
00:37:43.700 And again, I'm making the argument on the judge's term here.
00:37:46.320 I happen to think that punishment should be the goal or one of the goals of the justice system.
00:37:50.180 But even accepting her logic, that would mean that rehabilitation is the goal, which means that, in that case, the punishment is not the goal, but it is still the way to the goal.
00:38:02.860 Okay, it's the breaking a sweat part of it.
00:38:06.120 You cannot rehabilitate a criminal without punishment any more than you can have an effective workout without breaking a sweat.
00:38:14.180 That's the point.
00:38:16.220 And I think part of the problem is that we're using the wrong word here.
00:38:18.240 We're talking about rehabilitation.
00:38:19.380 That's not really the right word.
00:38:20.700 That's not the, I mean, you rehabilitate a broken leg.
00:38:23.560 You rehabilitate an abandoned building.
00:38:25.620 But in this case, when it comes to criminals, I think we're using the wrong R word.
00:38:29.400 The R word we should be using is repentance.
00:38:33.160 If a criminal is ever going to be suited to live in civilized society again, that will only happen if they repent.
00:38:40.480 That's what we're looking for.
00:38:42.000 And it's got nothing to do with how much community service they do.
00:38:45.380 So that's why all this stuff about, oh, and we, as we've talked about the last few weeks, good behavior, community service, you know, being well behaved.
00:38:53.300 They did arts and crafts.
00:38:54.540 They took some classes.
00:38:56.240 They got their GED, right?
00:38:58.240 They got their whatever.
00:39:00.400 They took some trade classes.
00:39:02.240 They, they, they learned how to change the oil in a car, whatever it is.
00:39:07.040 Um, great.
00:39:09.100 Like, I don't care though.
00:39:11.300 Well, good for you.
00:39:13.300 So good for you.
00:39:14.360 Who cares?
00:39:16.600 Because you could do all of that and not repent.
00:39:20.720 You could do all of that because while you're bored in prison and you don't want to, and you don't want to end up in solitary confinement.
00:39:27.780 So you try to behave yourself, it's just, it's, it's for your own self-interest that you, you know, exhibit good behavior in prison.
00:39:38.080 And a lot of these people, of course, are not even capable of acting in their own self-interest, nevermind the interests of society.
00:39:43.620 But, uh, if they are able to act in their own self-interest, fine, but that doesn't show that they've repented.
00:39:48.760 Did they repent?
00:39:54.280 Now, even if they did, if it's a serious crime, they still shouldn't be released from prison.
00:39:58.020 But when it comes to criminals who are going to be released, repentance is the only thing that matters.
00:40:06.240 Repentance should be the goal.
00:40:08.000 Not rehabilitation, not, not good behavior, not credits, not GEDs, not education, none of that.
00:40:15.880 Repentance.
00:40:16.320 That's the only thing that matters.
00:40:17.400 Have you repented?
00:40:20.440 Well, I can tell you right now, a violent criminal who assaults a random person has definitely not repented if they haven't even spent a day in prison.
00:40:30.800 Repentance requires suffering.
00:40:32.460 It requires to, it requires for you to experience a measure of the suffering that you have inflicted on other people.
00:40:40.560 There is no repentance without suffering.
00:40:43.040 Christ suffered and died for our sins.
00:40:44.360 He did the saving work through, through him we have salvation, but that doesn't let us off the hook when it comes to suffering.
00:40:50.700 That doesn't mean that we get to live a life free of suffering.
00:40:53.180 Quite the opposite.
00:40:53.920 He says, pick up your cross and follow me.
00:40:56.040 We have our own suffering that we must endure.
00:40:58.120 You can't repent without suffering.
00:41:03.380 You know, let's take an example.
00:41:04.480 Let's say that you've committed a horrible sin that isn't a crime.
00:41:07.280 Maybe it should be, but it isn't.
00:41:08.460 Like, let's say you've cheated on your spouse.
00:41:10.200 You've committed adultery.
00:41:10.900 Can you repent of that sin?
00:41:13.580 Sure.
00:41:14.520 And you must.
00:41:15.900 You better.
00:41:17.560 But if you haven't experienced within yourself true agony, almost like unbearable pain,
00:41:23.600 the kind of pain where you almost aren't sure that you want to continue living,
00:41:28.980 that kind of pain, if you haven't experienced that, then you haven't repented.
00:41:32.720 You're not actually sorry.
00:41:33.920 If you haven't experienced in yourself the pain that you have caused in your loved ones,
00:41:41.260 then you haven't repented.
00:41:43.620 And if you're not willing to accept the consequences of your sin, whatever they may be,
00:41:48.940 then you haven't repented.
00:41:51.700 To repent of a sin of that magnitude is to be in agony.
00:41:56.020 It is to be in agony.
00:41:57.140 It is to experience a pain unlike anything you've ever felt.
00:42:01.360 Because that pain is the recognition of your sin.
00:42:03.700 That pain comes from your confrontation, your honest confrontation with your sin.
00:42:08.580 And if you aren't feeling that pain, then you haven't fully recognized the sin,
00:42:12.000 which means that you couldn't possibly have repented of it.
00:42:14.080 You cannot repent without pain.
00:42:16.580 And repenting of a small sin means a small amount of pain that you're going to suffer.
00:42:20.000 Repenting from a very large sin means a large amount of pain.
00:42:22.260 If you haven't felt it, then you haven't repented by definition.
00:42:26.900 So going back to the criminal justice system, if you want repentance from criminals,
00:42:29.920 the best way you can get it, the best thing for them is to give them pain, to give them suffering.
00:42:40.200 And here's the thing.
00:42:41.080 If they've actually repented or been rehabilitated, to use the language we use now,
00:42:47.600 then they'll accept that.
00:42:49.560 They'll accept the punishment.
00:42:53.100 Like, I already know that every criminal who's actually guilty and yet sits there in court trying to weasel out of the punishment,
00:43:00.920 I already know that none of them have repented.
00:43:03.840 Not a single one of them.
00:43:04.820 Literally every guilty criminal who has ever tried to avoid prison time has not repented.
00:43:12.860 And I understand it seems, again, very much in your self-interest to avoid prison time.
00:43:17.280 Seems understandable.
00:43:18.020 You don't want to go to prison even if you're guilty.
00:43:19.860 But if that's what you're doing, you haven't repented.
00:43:21.400 You can't claim, oh, I'm sorry, but don't send me to prison.
00:43:23.500 Well, if you're really sorry, then you would know you deserve to go to prison and you would welcome it.
00:43:28.160 And if you don't welcome the consequence, if you're not willing to experience it,
00:43:32.800 if you don't recognize that you are worthy of it and you deserve it, then you haven't repented.
00:43:39.840 You know, it's the same thing I say to my kids.
00:43:41.440 They do something wrong.
00:43:44.180 I had this conversation with one of my kids recently.
00:43:46.760 Did something wrong.
00:43:48.740 Said he was sorry.
00:43:50.440 And I said, well, it's good you're sorry.
00:43:51.800 Here's your punishment.
00:43:53.220 And he said, but I said I was sorry.
00:43:56.240 Well, no, but apparently you aren't sorry.
00:43:57.860 Because if you were sorry, you would know you deserve to be punished.
00:44:02.400 Now, see, what we've learned here is you're only saying you're sorry to get out of the punishment.
00:44:05.600 But you're not actually sorry.
00:44:08.300 If you were actually sorry, then when I tell you what the punishment is, you would say, well, okay.
00:44:13.980 You're right.
00:44:14.540 I deserve that.
00:44:17.220 And yeah, it's very rare anyone responds that way to a punishment.
00:44:20.180 What does that tell you?
00:44:21.000 It tells you that repentance is very, like, it's hard.
00:44:23.340 And most people don't do it.
00:44:24.520 And most people who claim that they have actually haven't.
00:44:27.860 Speaking of people who should repent, Joy Behar of The View says that she wants to have
00:44:36.540 more Republicans on the show, but they're too scared to come on the show.
00:44:43.060 Let's watch that clip.
00:44:44.060 I think that we should have more Republicans on the show, but they don't want to come on.
00:44:48.360 They're scared of us.
00:44:49.280 It's like Marjorie Taylor Greene says that she finds the Republican men afraid of powerful
00:44:55.740 women.
00:44:56.220 Well, that may be true of all the political persuasions.
00:44:59.700 But if they would come on this show and they can explain to us what they're trying to do to
00:45:03.800 this guy.
00:45:04.520 Now, this is, of course, hilarious because literally every conservative commentator in
00:45:10.900 existence would love to go on The View.
00:45:13.020 We've all made pitches to The View countless times.
00:45:15.600 There's a list of Republicans a mile long who not only would come on, but have asked to come on
00:45:21.260 and have been turned down.
00:45:24.260 Because what they're really looking for, of course, is a Democrat light, is a Democrat in
00:45:28.540 a Republican skin suit.
00:45:31.120 And that's what they want.
00:45:33.060 And if they do actually have a real conservative on the show, which which has almost never
00:45:40.620 happened, it'll be that'll be it.
00:45:44.160 Right.
00:45:44.620 If they were actually sincere about this, oh, we'd love to have these people on.
00:45:49.080 Well, that is only going to happen once.
00:45:51.640 Only one of us will get a shot because after that, it'll never happen again.
00:45:57.640 And that person will ruin it for the rest of us.
00:45:59.620 And if that's if that's the case, bearing all that in mind, let me just say.
00:46:07.960 To Joy Behar, I'm your guy.
00:46:11.440 OK, I'd love to come on.
00:46:13.220 I'm the one.
00:46:14.720 Pick me.
00:46:16.440 Put me in, coach.
00:46:18.080 I'm ready.
00:46:18.920 OK, let's let's do this.
00:46:22.380 Now, you know, it's quite possible, I think, that Joy isn't very familiar with me.
00:46:25.980 I'm sure she doesn't really follow conservative media very much.
00:46:30.220 I assume the other hosts don't.
00:46:32.200 The producers don't.
00:46:33.360 You know, nobody involved with The View has any idea.
00:46:35.400 Probably don't listen to very many right wing podcasts.
00:46:37.760 So let me I thought this is a good opportunity to just sort of.
00:46:42.600 Introduce myself and make my appeal.
00:46:45.880 And I'm hoping that somebody will show this clip to the powers that be over at The View show to Joy
00:46:50.300 Bayard.
00:46:52.460 And let me just say that Joy, first of all, I believe you.
00:46:56.020 OK, I know a lot of conservatives are like, well, you don't really want a Republican on.
00:46:59.720 I think that you do, because because from what I can tell watching the show every day and I watch
00:47:04.080 it every day, I'm a big fan and I have great respect for you and for the other brilliant women
00:47:08.180 of The View.
00:47:09.820 And and I and I know that you're sincere.
00:47:11.440 You would never say something that you don't believe.
00:47:13.060 And and and that's why I have so much.
00:47:15.100 I'm always talking about how much respect I have for you.
00:47:17.520 My audience will vouch for that.
00:47:18.900 They'll they'll tell you every time I talk about The View, the audience goes.
00:47:22.440 So there's Matt, there's Matt again talking about his favorite show.
00:47:27.460 That he loves and respects so much, you know, it's kind of it's a it's like an inside joke
00:47:31.740 now in the audience.
00:47:33.160 And and, you know, you and I have disagreements.
00:47:37.500 I'm not going to deny that.
00:47:38.380 But if you have me on the show, it will be a respectful dialogue.
00:47:44.460 And listen, I'll admit you guys are brilliant.
00:47:48.060 I'll probably lose.
00:47:49.060 OK, can I admit that?
00:47:50.980 I'll admit it.
00:47:51.560 I'm not afraid to admit it.
00:47:53.180 Just being honest, I don't like my chances.
00:47:55.860 When I watch this show and I watch you guys dealing with the issues, I think, man, they
00:48:02.700 know their stuff.
00:48:04.760 And I'm a little nervous to come on.
00:48:07.960 But but geez, I think it would be such a fun dialogue.
00:48:12.080 It's all about the dialogue.
00:48:13.380 You know, that's that's what I always say.
00:48:15.060 It's just about it's about the dialogue and it's about having fun.
00:48:18.540 Those are the two things that matter to me.
00:48:20.420 And, you know, I'm I'm a very warm and positive guy.
00:48:22.520 I'm very friendly.
00:48:25.040 There there are.
00:48:27.060 I don't get into anger, shouting, sarcasm.
00:48:31.440 Not my style like to keep it light.
00:48:33.820 I like to have fun.
00:48:36.320 Keep it positive.
00:48:39.060 So let's just try a couple of segments.
00:48:42.380 You know, I'll come on next week.
00:48:43.620 We'll do a segment or two.
00:48:45.840 If we don't have fun, I'll leave, you know, but but I think we'll have a blast.
00:48:49.780 That's what I think.
00:48:51.440 I think afterwards we'll all go out, get a cup of coffee and a pastry.
00:48:54.940 OK, that's actually what I think is going to happen.
00:48:58.860 And, you know.
00:49:01.560 There are a lot there are a lot of conservative commentators I've seen who are responding to that clip of you, Joy.
00:49:06.200 And they're saying, oh, hey, have me on.
00:49:07.740 I'll destroy you.
00:49:09.480 I'm not saying that.
00:49:10.400 And you shouldn't have any of them on.
00:49:13.420 You know what?
00:49:13.920 Forget about those people.
00:49:15.960 Have me on.
00:49:16.600 Let me come on the show.
00:49:18.000 I'm the nicest one out of all of them.
00:49:20.560 I'm the friendliest.
00:49:21.740 I'm the nicest.
00:49:22.760 And if I'm on the show, it will not turn into anything contentious or uncomfortable.
00:49:28.660 It's not my thing.
00:49:30.480 Contentious, uncomfortable.
00:49:31.460 Not my thing.
00:49:32.300 Not my vibe.
00:49:33.240 Not my style.
00:49:35.920 And can I also tell you these other conservatives that are pitching your show?
00:49:38.420 You know, the other conservatives in the company I work for have pitched you also.
00:49:46.900 And I like all these guys.
00:49:48.740 But just between you and me, they're pretty extreme.
00:49:52.880 But let's be honest.
00:49:55.400 Very right wing.
00:49:57.320 You need someone who's moderate, who's down the middle.
00:50:00.040 And that's me.
00:50:01.060 I'm that guy.
00:50:02.100 I'm more of a, you know, I'm like a Bill Kristol Republican.
00:50:04.560 I'm more of a Michael Steele.
00:50:07.140 I'm a, you know, I'm like a Colin Powell type Republican.
00:50:10.820 That's my, that's my thing.
00:50:13.020 I'm an Adam Kinzinger Republican.
00:50:16.100 You know?
00:50:17.840 So, that's it.
00:50:20.520 If you want to have those other guys on, that's fine too.
00:50:22.600 I would say, but let me go first.
00:50:25.420 Let's get warmed up.
00:50:27.220 Let's get warm.
00:50:27.780 Let's, I think you should have a guy like me on.
00:50:29.740 It's a little bit easier.
00:50:31.040 It's going to be, it's going to be much, much less contentious.
00:50:33.520 Much less.
00:50:34.060 And, and so you just kind of get into the flow of it.
00:50:37.100 And if you want to have more Republicans on after me, then you can or not.
00:50:40.600 But really, it's up to you.
00:50:41.520 And so, anyway, I'm just hoping we can get this in front of the View producers and hosts.
00:50:47.200 And they don't know much about our world.
00:50:50.020 So, I'm just kind of a little bit of introduction.
00:50:52.760 That's it.
00:50:53.460 And I'm hoping we can have this conversation.
00:50:56.580 I really am.
00:50:57.040 I think it's going to be really productive.
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00:53:06.420 But we began the show by talking about how some of the worst and most destructive relics of the civil rights era are now finally being eliminated.
00:53:16.040 So to the end of the show, to end the show on yet another happy note for the daily cancellation, we have some similar news.
00:53:22.940 Some of the worst and most destructive relics of the BLM era are now also meeting that fate.
00:53:27.560 And here's the wrap with the report, quote, NBC News eliminated its teams dedicated to covering issues affecting Black, Asian American, Latino, and LGBTQ plus groups as part of its layoffs of about 150 staffers on Wednesday.
00:53:41.760 According to two sources familiar with the matter, a significant culling as the Peacock Network separates from its sister network, MSNBC, the cuts mean that the verticals NBC BLK, NBC Asian America, NBC Latino, and NBC Out will no longer have dedicated teams bolstering their coverage.
00:53:59.040 The total reductions which affected NBC News' entire news operation make up about 7% of NBC News' newsroom of about 2,000 staffers.
00:54:06.040 Yes, although you may not have realized that NBC had entire news divisions with names like NBC BLK, as in NBC for Black People and Black Stories.
00:54:18.500 They also had a whole division for gay people called NBC Out, in addition to NBC Latino, NBC Asian.
00:54:24.460 They had segregated news divisions for different identities, essentially.
00:54:27.540 Strangely enough, there was no NBC Indian or NBC Midget or there wasn't even an NBC Furry, which I thought was interesting.
00:54:35.860 So they didn't cover every single demographic group in the country with all these different news divisions.
00:54:41.160 But to be fair, they made a good faith effort.
00:54:43.460 And now that effort is being dismantled piece by piece.
00:54:47.020 But as we all know, great ideas like great minds are often only appreciated when they're gone.
00:54:52.920 And therefore, to be sure that I wasn't missing anything here, I thought it'd be a good idea to take a look back at the extraordinary journalism produced by some of these highly specialized NBC News divisions.
00:55:01.800 In particular, I took a close look at the work product of NBC BLK and NBC Out over the years, just to get a sense of what we'll be missing going forward.
00:55:11.360 And to set the stage, and bear with me here, I'm going to show you this dash cam footage from a traffic stop in Camden County, Georgia, from back in October of 2023.
00:55:19.660 And I promise it's highly relevant. Watch.
00:55:24.340 Put your hands behind your back because you're getting tased.
00:55:26.940 I'm telling you that right now.
00:55:28.360 Why am I getting tased?
00:55:29.280 Because you are under arrest for speeding and reckless driving.
00:55:32.060 I'm not driving. Nobody was hurt. How was I speeding?
00:55:34.780 You passed me doing 100 miles an hour.
00:55:37.120 Okay, so that's a speeding ticket, right?
00:55:39.000 Sir, tickets in the state of Georgia are criminal offenses.
00:55:41.800 I don't have a ticket in Georgia.
00:55:43.320 You do now?
00:55:44.160 Why?
00:55:44.500 You passed me doing 100 miles an hour.
00:55:46.840 Okay, so I'm playing on this and what?
00:55:47.580 I'm not going to jail?
00:55:47.960 Hands behind your back.
00:55:49.180 Yes, you are going to jail.
00:55:51.800 Hands behind your back.
00:55:55.540 Put your hands behind your back.
00:56:14.500 That was footage from the detention of a black man named Leonard Cure two years ago to the day.
00:56:32.480 It happened on October 16th, 2023.
00:56:34.800 As you saw, he was pulled over for reckless driving.
00:56:37.000 And then rather than comply with the officer, Leonard attempts to strangle him to death on the side of the road.
00:56:42.300 So it's not the ideal response.
00:56:45.420 The officer then struggles with Cure as Cure taunts him and tries to kill him.
00:56:49.320 And then finally, to save his life, the officer fires one shot, killing Leonard Cure.
00:56:53.700 Now, that's the background.
00:56:55.200 Now, if you had to guess, how did NBC Black or NBC BLK or whatever you want to call it cover this particular story?
00:57:01.880 What angle did they take?
00:57:03.000 Well, here's the headline.
00:57:04.100 Quote,
00:57:04.300 So they don't mention the fact that Leonard Cure tried to murder the officer or that the officer fired in self-defense.
00:57:20.980 Instead, the headline states that Cure had been exonerated and that his mother was devastated by his death.
00:57:27.080 Now, they don't tell you how he was exonerated or what that means exactly.
00:57:30.980 But the clear thrust of the headline is that this is a very sad story and the cops may have made a grave mistake.
00:57:37.660 Now, let's read on.
00:57:38.660 Quote,
00:57:38.800 So Leonard Cure died Monday morning during an altercation with a Camden County Sheriff's deputy on Interstate 95 near the Georgia-Florida border.
00:57:45.740 The death came three years after he served 16 years in prison for an armed robbery conviction he was exonerated of.
00:57:51.080 The 53-year-old had been visiting his mother in Port St. Lucie Friday and was returning home in Metro Atlanta.
00:57:58.940 Mary Cure recalled the last conversation she had with her son early Monday morning before they parted ways.
00:58:04.660 He said,
00:58:04.940 I love you and I'll see you soon.
00:58:07.040 That's the last I heard from.
00:58:08.020 She said,
00:58:08.760 I was uneasy every time he left because I was like,
00:58:11.020 will he get a traffic stop?
00:58:12.020 Is he going to be a victim of that?
00:58:13.580 Mother said.
00:58:14.420 The time that he was released,
00:58:15.600 he was never set free.
00:58:17.000 She continued.
00:58:18.040 Living in constant fear.
00:58:19.560 Is this going to be the day that they're going to lock him up,
00:58:21.680 beat him up or kill him?
00:58:22.800 I live with that.
00:58:24.080 That is torture.
00:58:27.260 And what,
00:58:28.220 you know,
00:58:28.380 there's a,
00:58:30.060 you don't need to worry about traffic stops at all.
00:58:33.280 If you could just refrain from trying to kill the officer.
00:58:35.940 That's the one weird trick.
00:58:40.320 The one weird,
00:58:41.180 weird trick to survive a traffic stop is to not try to kill the police officer.
00:58:46.480 I've been pulled over a bunch of times and I've used that trick every time.
00:58:52.820 I've had to remember it.
00:58:54.360 You know,
00:58:54.700 I have it written down in my notes.
00:58:56.440 I have it written in my phone in notes.
00:58:58.560 Don't try to kill police officer if he gets pulled over.
00:59:01.060 And so I can just go check it.
00:59:02.020 And I'm like,
00:59:02.260 oh yeah,
00:59:02.600 right.
00:59:03.600 Check.
00:59:04.680 And then I survived the traffic stop.
00:59:06.820 It's crazy how that works.
00:59:08.060 There's also a quote from Cure's brother saying,
00:59:11.420 quote,
00:59:11.780 he really should be alive.
00:59:12.760 The officer hit him with a baton and tased him twice.
00:59:15.520 As a matter of fact,
00:59:16.620 but he did not have to shoot him.
00:59:18.880 Now,
00:59:19.020 eventually the article gets around to saying that a fight ensued between Cure and the officer without making it clear that the cure was clearly the instigator of the fight.
00:59:26.560 Now,
00:59:26.940 it's not hard to see what's going on here.
00:59:28.500 NBC black existed for one reason to stoke racial resentment and open racial warfare in this country.
00:59:33.800 It was explicit propaganda of the worst imaginable kind.
00:59:37.160 And they deliberately ran cover for violent black felons,
00:59:40.520 even when their crimes were caught on camera in order to spread the false narrative that innocent black people were being hunted by the police.
00:59:48.300 And by the way,
00:59:48.880 not that it's the most important part of the story,
00:59:50.540 but Leonard Cure probably did commit that armed robbery that sent him to prison for 16 years.
00:59:55.320 He wasn't really exonerated.
00:59:57.600 You know,
00:59:58.100 what happens in virtually all of these cases,
01:00:00.340 which is like not talked about enough,
01:00:01.780 but when somebody is supposedly exonerated decades after the fact,
01:00:07.160 what almost always happens is that a left-wing court applies unrealistic standards of evidence to an ancient case long after the witnesses are gone.
01:00:15.980 DNA evidence,
01:00:17.380 you know,
01:00:18.120 it's long after DNA evidence could have been collected.
01:00:20.520 And then they let the criminal loose and claim that it's an exoneration.
01:00:24.740 And really it wasn't,
01:00:25.400 it was not an exoneration.
01:00:26.400 It was just equity in action.
01:00:29.200 And this particular situation,
01:00:30.400 Cure received more than $800,000 for his alleged wrongful conviction.
01:00:33.920 That's nearly a million dollars.
01:00:35.360 And if this guy were really an upstanding citizen who had been wrongfully accused,
01:00:40.740 he'd take that huge sum of money and go live a normal life.
01:00:45.300 But guess what?
01:00:46.600 That's not what this guy did.
01:00:48.340 Just three years after getting out of jail,
01:00:50.160 he tried to murder a deputy on the side of the road on camera for no reason.
01:00:55.500 And he was driving a hundred miles an hour,
01:00:57.140 endangering everybody's life on the freeway.
01:00:59.900 And then he tried to commit premeditated murder.
01:01:03.460 That's the guy who was exonerated for committing armed robbery.
01:01:07.220 Right.
01:01:09.060 You know,
01:01:09.280 this is almost as if that,
01:01:10.120 you know,
01:01:10.300 he was like a violent felon all along.
01:01:13.840 It's almost as if the vast majority of these exonerations are total nonsense.
01:01:19.200 Well,
01:01:19.600 let's not pick on NBC black too much,
01:01:21.340 even though everyone who worked there deserves to rot in the unemployment line.
01:01:24.700 As I mentioned,
01:01:25.420 NBC out was also dismantled this week.
01:01:27.180 And that's very good news because like their counterparts at NBC black,
01:01:30.640 the folks at NBC out were also engaged in the business of spreading hoaxes on a full-time basis.
01:01:35.560 Here's one example from a couple of years ago,
01:01:38.120 quote,
01:01:39.000 it's been 25 years since Matthew Shepard,
01:01:40.880 a gay 21 year old university of Wyoming student died six days after he was savagely beaten by two young men and tied to a remote fence to meet his fate.
01:01:48.900 His death has been memorialized as an egregious hate crime that helped fuel the LGBTQ rights movement over the ensuing years.
01:01:54.980 Now notice the sleight of hand in that paragraph.
01:01:59.600 It's actually pathological.
01:02:01.520 They don't say that Matthew Shepard was actually killed in a hate crime because they know he wasn't.
01:02:06.240 He was killed as part of a meth deal gone bad.
01:02:08.680 And one of his killers was a former gay lover.
01:02:10.780 That's been widely reported at this point.
01:02:12.940 NBC out knows that everybody knows that.
01:02:14.760 So instead of directly lying, NBC out writes that Shepard's death has, quote,
01:02:19.660 been memorialized as an egregious hate crime.
01:02:23.300 In other words, they're saying, you know, basically people said it was a hate crime.
01:02:27.800 And even though we know that's wrong, we're going to repeat the lie without providing any context.
01:02:31.320 Again, this is a news division at a news network.
01:02:36.140 And it clearly exists to spread hoaxes and propaganda.
01:02:39.060 Now, predictably, left-wing media outlets are crying about these layoffs, saying it's a sign that white supremacy is on the rise or whatever.
01:02:46.960 Now, I could give dozens more examples, of course, of the propaganda produced by these NBC divisions,
01:02:51.320 like the time an NBC black pundit demanded that the FCC punish anyone who misgendered, meaning correctly gendered, so-called trans individuals.
01:02:59.500 Or I could talk about the time NBC out pushed a Catholic school to hire a lesbian lacrosse coach.
01:03:04.480 Instead of going through all that, I'll just say that we need many, many more layoffs like this.
01:03:11.720 And it looks like we're going to get them.
01:03:13.140 That's the good news.
01:03:13.620 Over at CBS News, the new boss, Barry Weiss, channeled Elon Musk and asked every employee to send a memo documenting what they do all day.
01:03:24.880 And here's how the CBS union responded.
01:03:26.580 Quote, we're aware of the email that was sent asking CBS employees to provide information about their jobs.
01:03:32.720 Many of you have expressed concern to us about the purpose of the email, and we share those concerns.
01:03:38.440 We suggest you refrain from responding.
01:03:40.420 Yes, they're horrified about the prospect of telling their boss what they do all day.
01:03:46.560 The union is directing the employees not to respond because this is such a grave intrusion.
01:03:52.140 As you might have guessed, mass layoffs are now reportedly planned at CBS News as well,
01:03:56.200 and presumably they're going to start with the people who refuse to answer that email.
01:04:00.700 So very soon, CBS News, the same outlet that doctored an interview with Kamala Harris to help her campaign,
01:04:06.000 then paid out millions of dollars because of it, is going to be gutted from within.
01:04:11.940 We need to see many, many more stories like this.
01:04:15.500 Along with the Supreme Court case we talked about in the open, it's much needed.
01:04:19.600 Much needed good news.
01:04:22.180 A sign of real progress in the culture.
01:04:24.500 People can see through the identity-based slop and the partisan propaganda posing as news,
01:04:30.840 and they're tired of watching it.
01:04:32.900 The audience has left the station.
01:04:36.280 And that is why NBC Black and NBC Out, along with the CBS News employees who don't want to tell their boss what they do all day,
01:04:42.960 are all today canceled.
01:04:45.780 That'll do it for the show today.
01:04:46.480 Thanks for watching.
01:04:46.960 Thanks for listening.
01:04:47.560 Talk to you tomorrow.
01:04:49.440 Have a great day.
01:04:50.260 Godspeed.
01:04:50.560 Godspeed.
01:04:50.620 Godspeed.
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