Ep. 1681 - The EBT Program Is A Massive Scam, And The Government Shutdown Just Proved It
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Summary
40 million people might lose their food stamps, which brings up an important question: How many people actually rely on food stamps? And what would happen if the food stamps went away because of the government shutdown? Plus, Zoran Smollett changes his story about his alleged aunt who stopped wearing her hijab on the subway.
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Today, Matt, we'll show 40 million people might lose their food stamps, which brings up an
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important question. How the hell are there 40 million people on food stamps in this country?
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And what would happen if the food stamps go away? Would anyone actually starve to death
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because of that? We'll discuss. Also, Zoran Smollett changes his story about his alleged
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aunt who stopped wearing her hijab on the subway. Do you remember the story of Ethan Liming? He was
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the white teenager who was beaten to death in a school parking lot two years ago. One of his
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attackers is already out of jail and is already killed again. We'll talk about all that and more
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exprssvpn.com slash Walsh. Ever since the government shutdown began a month ago, it's been
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a challenge to identify anybody in real life outside of government employees who has noticed
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or cared in any meaningful way. Even Democrats don't seem particularly bothered by the shutdown.
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They've been spending most of their time lately complaining about renovations that are underway
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in the East Wing of the White House, which is the kind of thing you complain about when you
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desperately need to find something to complain about, but you have no other options whatsoever
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available to you. Even if you normally don't care much about how the government spends your
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money, this is the kind of development that might make you sit up and take notice. There
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are road closures and potholes that have probably caused you more inconvenience, a lot more, this
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month than the shutdown of the entire federal government. As a result, for millions of Americans,
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it's now impossible to ignore the fact that the government, which you're forced to pay
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for, all the salaries, all the pensions, and so on, doesn't actually do very much. In the
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vast majority of cases, the federal government has zero impact on your day-to-day life or your
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week-to-week life. They are not public servants in the sense that they serve you. In reality,
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you serve them. You pay them to do nothing. Of course, that's not to say that your money
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only goes to federal government bureaucrats. Most of it, of course, actually goes to welfare
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programs. And it's the people who receive money from those welfare programs, particularly food
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stamps, otherwise known as SNAP benefits, who are now speaking up extremely loudly to complain about
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the federal government shutdown. So there is one group of people that, aside from federal
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bureaucrats who care that the government shut down, and that would be EBT, people who use EBT.
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Yes, this is a large group of people who are legitimately upset about the fact that
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the government is no longer fully operational. So the search is over. We have found people who
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care about it. And these people are upset because in a matter of days, federal funding for food stamps
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Trump administration says it will not use emergency funds to pay for federal food benefits
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with a fast approaching deadline. CBS's Christina Phan is in New York with details on that. Christina.
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Well, Jericho, one in eight Americans rely on SNAP benefits. And tonight,
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there is mounting worry for them. They might not be able to afford food
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Democratic Governor Maura Healey holds President Trump responsible.
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You know, leadership is a choice. And sadly, President Trump has chosen to take away food
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Now, you notice the flagrant inversion of reality here. If you stop subsidizing someone else's grocery
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bill, even for a second, then according to the governor of Massachusetts, you're taking away
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their food. It's like you robbed them. Now, of course, you know, the actual robbery occurs when you are
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forced against your will to pay for other people's groceries every month. That is the point where
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the government is taking something away. But the really striking aspect of that CBS report was the
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beginning of the segment when they casually mentioned that one in eight Americans are on
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food stamps. That's roughly 45 million people who are receiving taxpayer money to buy groceries costing
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more than $100 billion a year in a country of 340 million people. Now, in a moment, we'll get into
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who exactly is receiving this money and what they're threatening to do in the next few days. And that's
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important information, particularly if you plan on going to a grocery store in the next, you know,
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few weeks without a firearm. But first, you have to ask yourself,
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did you have any idea that 45 million people of the 340 million people in this country, again,
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one in eight, were receiving taxpayer-funded financial assistance to buy groceries? Did you
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know that? If you pay really close attention to the news, you probably did. But the average person
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probably didn't know that. 45 million people are not buying their own groceries in this country.
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We're supposed to believe that 45 million people cannot feed themselves in this country.
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That's like, I mean, that's more than the entire population of California. That's more than the
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entire population of Texas plus Kentucky and Oklahoma, okay? Entire states full of people. It's that
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equivalent. Who can't feed themselves. Now, the sheer scale, allegedly can't feed themselves. Now,
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the sheer scale of this program guarantees that if we eliminated the food stamp program entirely,
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then prices at the grocery store would plummet. And this is a point that I rarely hear anybody make.
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Almost never. But it's really important. Like, this is by far the number one everyday issue that
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most Americans care about, which is the rising price of groceries, and for good reason.
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And it actually is a very obvious solution. When the government spends a massive amount of money
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subsidizing the purchase of a particular product in any context, the price of that product will go up.
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It was true for college tuition, and it's true for groceries. The subsidy creates increased demand,
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but it does not increase the supply, and therefore the cost goes up under the basic principle of supply and
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demand. And yes, by the way, it is more demand, because you might say, well, there'd be demand for food
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anyway. It's greater demand, because now you have people who are not spending, it's not their money.
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They're going in there with other people's money, and they're spending like it. In fact, the average food
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stamp recipient spends more on groceries than the average person who's not on food stamps, because it's not their
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money. So they go in there and buy way more than they need. And they buy all kinds of, all types of,
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types of food that they don't need at all, and shouldn't be buying. It inflates the cost for
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everyone. Take a look at this data from the Department of Agriculture. You can see their
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monthly food stamp spending was just $4.5 billion in December of 2019. By December 2022, thanks to a
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massive expansion by the Biden administration, food stamp spending was $11 billion per month.
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That's a lot of new artificially subsidized demand. And guess what? In that same period,
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grocery prices went up. By some estimates, food prices go up by 1% for every 12% increase
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in food stamp spending. In this case, we're looking at a percentage increase of nearly 150%.
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So you could do the math on that. It's more than a 10% increase in your grocery bill every single
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month. And what this means is that if you're a working American, and you're not on food stamps,
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meaning you are a functional citizen who is taking care of yourself and your own family,
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you are a functional contributing citizen. What that means is you are actually paying against your
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will for other people's groceries twice. You're paying when the government takes the money out of
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your paycheck. And then you're paying again every time you buy groceries for yourself.
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So who exactly is benefiting from food stamps? And how much of the spending is actually necessary?
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So put another way, how many people would starve to death out on the street if food stamps were
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abolished? We all know that number is much, much less than the total number of food stamp
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recipients in this country. Does anyone think that 45 million people would starve if they didn't have
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an EBT card? Tens of millions of people across the country just dropping dead from starvation. Does
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anyone think that? So what, what is the, uh, the, the number of people who actually need,
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actually need it, like would starve without it? 1%? 0? 5%? I mean, what's the number? 10?
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Now, if food stamps were abolished tomorrow, how many people exactly would, would be like lying on the
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sidewalk, rib cages, protruding, starving to death of the 40 million people on food stamps,
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how many actually depend on it to live? Like that, that is the question.
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And these are questions we should probably answer now that we know the enormous cost of these
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programs, thanks to the government shutdown. And while we're at it, we should answer this question.
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Has anyone ever starved to death in the modern history of this country because they haven't had
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access to food? I mean, has that actually happened in this country? Has a single sane adult, okay,
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now we're not talking about kids who are victims of horrific abuse and those kinds of awful cases,
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in which case like food stamps are not solving that. Has any sane adult through no fault of his own
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shriveled and died because he couldn't afford to buy anything to eat? Has there been a single example
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of someone in modern America, in modern America, someone who has no family, no friends,
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no other forms of state or federal welfare he can tap into, no food banks, no churches he can visit,
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no job, no soup kitchens nearby, no charity food drives in his area, nothing at all.
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So the point is that there's a, there are a bunch of lines of defense. Like when it, when, when we deal
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with the question of, well, who should be feeding you, right? There's, there are, there are a lot of
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answers that come up in the first person, ideally who feeds you should be you. You should be feeding
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yourself. If you're an adult who should feed your children, it should be you. Like that's the,
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that's the, that's the first, that's where we should go. It should be number one, you. And if you really
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can't, I mean, there are things that happen where someone really, really can't through no fault of
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their own. They can, they're not able to feed themselves. That can happen. I'm not denying that.
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But then there are so many other, in, in modern America, there are so many other lines of defense.
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If you, even if you take EBT out of it, there are so many other lines of defense
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that should mean that you're not going to starve.
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You should have your family. You should have friends. Even if you don't have them,
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you have a local community, you have soup kitchens, you have charities, you have churches,
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you have all of these things. You have food drives, all of these things.
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You have other forms of welfare programs that also exist.
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So for how many people, I guess this is the question.
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How many people are in a situation where all of those lines of defense have failed every single
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one and Oh, the only possible thing left that can feed them is EBT.
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You know, now if something like that, if there were someone in that situation or something like
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that would ever happen in the United States, then I'd be the first in line to say, yes,
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get that person a taxpayer funded hot dog. I don't want to see anyone starve. Nobody does.
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But I don't think that's, that's actually happening in modern America.
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Like no one has presented us with the person and said, okay, here's someone who there's an actual
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human who's alive today in America. And for this person legitimately, if they don't have food stamps,
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they will starve. It's the only thing. It's the only way they can get their hands on food.
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And in fact, if you look at what food stamp recipients are saying in their own words,
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you come away with the distinct impression that like almost none of these people actually need
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the food stamps. Instead, you come away with the impression that many of these people are
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simply entitled, lazy, barely literate. And like some of them are just frankly bad people.
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And of course that doesn't describe every adult on food stamps. No one is saying that.
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But it does seem to describe a large portion of them. And that is a moral outrage that we as
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taxpaying Americans who are funding this, we have every right to be upset about that.
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When people, when, when people are stealing our money who don't even need it and just wasting it
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in this profligate way, don't let anyone morally blackmail you into thinking that you're not
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allowed to be upset about that. Of course you can be upset about that. And of course you can demand
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answers. You're taking my money. I want to know who exactly needs it and for what, and how are you
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spending it? That is a legitimate question. Of course it is. And what you end up with is for a lot
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of people who rather than get a job would prefer to rob grocery stores and the people shopping inside
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them. So, so here's just, just on that point, here's a sampling of the response responses from food
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stamp recipients on TikTok to, you know, all this stuff about the shutdown and losing the benefits.
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All I know is if they stop my food stamps, me and my man will be at the grocery store walking out with
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two bag, two big ass carts. And ain't bet nobody better do nothing. Cause my man coming hard behind
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me and it only take him one time to punch your ass. You know what? Since you want to take food stamps
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away, I'm going to Walmart. I'm going to rank up any damn thing I want right in the basket.
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I'm going to write about the move. Get the way. I'm not paying for a damn thing. Y'all got me
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up. I ain't getting a food stamp on EBT. Oh, watch this. I'm going to tell y'all straight up like
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this. I just got that text that the link is definitely cut the off for November. Um, y'all
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better stay out of my way in these stores. I'm walking out with cars and I'm not paying for
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sh**. Um, Trump, if you won't, um, start moving. Oh, what's going to happen? Before my kids go
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broken as a jock, I'm going to be stealing like it ain't no tomorrow. I say if they don't give
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food stamps next month, we all just say and rob the grocery store and tell them make me agree.
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I just wanted to come real fast just to make this video, just to make something very, very
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clear to the white man. Black Americans do not care about your government shutdown and
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black Americans do not care about you taking away our EBT and our government assistance
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because black Americans never depended on the American government to take care of us and feed
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us because we never could. We were never able to depend on the government in spite of what
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you may say and what you may try to force us to believe. So you can sit back and you
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can mock, you can laugh, and you can think that you're about to starve us to death. But
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I'm here to let you know that we are going to eat regardless, even if we have to hunt you
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animals down and roast and eat you. The delectable crackers and cheese. We will make it happen
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if we have to trust and believe me. People are really going to be stealing people carts of
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groceries out of the grocery parking lot. I'm telling you, it seemed like it's headed that
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way. Now, what other choices are people going to have to find food to eat? Because people
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are about to be out here struggling. They're about to be out here bad, bad. So do you really
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think they're going to look at you with all these groceries, packing it in your car, you
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know, about to go home and feed your family from the, you know, hard earned money that you
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made from working your job that afforded you the affordability to buy those groceries? They
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ain't going to give a f***. They ain't going to care. They going to snatch them bags up out
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your hand and be like, I wish you would. Now, among other things, if you're going to shop
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for groceries during this government shutdown, you have to keep these videos in mind. There
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are many, many threats like it. People, uh, many people receiving food stamps who would
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rather rob you and, uh, even kill you and eat you apparently than have to pay for their
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own groceries for once in their lives. They would rather rob and kill than just like get
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a damn job. Um, and I'll highlight a couple more of these clips mainly because they're
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so over the top that it's hard to believe they're real, but, but they are. Watch.
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Let my f*** come on the 15th and I'm going to show them why I went to jail twice. I don't
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give a f***. I'm not, I'm not in the mood. My birthday is in December. Thanksgiving coming
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up. I don't, I don't. See that what I'm saying? Cause my mama already had used my one
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feet to do money. That's why I should never. Now, as best I could decipher this individual
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who doesn't appear to speak English is, is threatening to go to prison for the third
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time. If her or maybe his, I can't tell food stamps, uh, don't come through in November
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and for good measure, you can hear a smoke alarm chirp mid rant. Um, so in case you missed
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it, it went like this. I don't give a f***. I'm not in the mood. My birthday in December.
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And then there's the chirp. And then there's the statement that quote, Thanksgiving coming
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up. Thanksgiving is a Thanksgiving is my, it's my favorite holiday. I gotta say the
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Thanksgiving's. So you are, um, actively suffering. Money is being taken out of your paycheck and
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food is being taken off of your children's plate for the sake of that. Remember that for
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the sake of that person, your life is being actively harmed every day. You're being forced
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to make real sacrifices in your life every day. And your family's being forced to, and
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your children for that. Now, um, one question right off the bat is, is why someone who's been
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to prison is allowed to receive food stamps in the first place? I mean, why is this something
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we're tolerating? You could commit multiple crimes resulting in your incarceration. And
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then when you get out, you can force taxpayers to buy your groceries. You can not only be a
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total nothing of a person who contributes absolutely nothing to society, but you can actually actively
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work to harm society every day of your life. And yet still we're forced to feed you. And yet
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still you are going to eat better than many of the people who are being forced to subsidize
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your grocery bill. That seems like one privilege that we could rescind immediately. There's like
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basic things we could do. And while we're at it, we should implement drug testing as a requirement
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for SNAP benefits as this video makes clear. Watch. No food stamps equals no to less weed money. Like
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y'all about to have people out here hangry and sober. That's a diabolical combination because the
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food money got to come out of some budget. And that's the first one it usually comes from.
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Can you imagine the horror of having to tap into your weed budget to buy food for yourself? I mean,
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it's unthinkable, really. No one should have to endure humiliation like that. Surely we
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should just steal the money from people who are actually working for a living.
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You can look at the saddest of sob stories and it doesn't get any better. Here's a report that
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aired on a local Fox affiliate this week. For example, watch.
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Federal workers waiting in long lines at this food bank in Southern Maryland.
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I would have never in a million years that I would have been in this position to have to go to a food
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bank. Denise Blake says she drove over an hour to get here. When she finally arrived,
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they'd run out of food. We have a cart ready for you up front. Fortunately, she did not leave
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empty handed, but she still faces the harsh reality of not knowing how she's going to feed her family
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while she's not getting paid during the government shutdown. I don't want my daughter to see me
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So we're supposed to feel sorry for Denise, a federal worker at the Department of Defense.
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She had to go to a food bank and barely got any food all because of the government shutdown. Now,
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if you look up Denise online, you find that she's drawn a taxpayer funded salary since 2015. Her lowest
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salary was more than $60,000 a year. Last year, Denise made more than $87,000 a year. That's a decade's
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worth of income. And each year she earned well above the median personal income in this country.
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She presumably has access to a credit card given this income. And to put this into further perspective
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here, when I first got married, my salary was a quarter of what Denise earns. I earned in a year
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what Denise makes in about four months. And I was never even close to starving and I wasn't on food
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stamps. So there's no conceivable way that Denise is going to starve to death either. I mean, even if
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she's been financially reckless to the point of comic book level absurdity, you know, we don't need
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food stamps. She can put it on credit or tap into her savings account, which she should have been
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growing for many years. You know, you got a stable government job. And, you know, in these government
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jobs, by the way, the hours are not difficult at all. And to be clear, I'm not saying that she's going
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to live a life of luxury. I'm not saying this won't be stressful. Not even faulting her for trying
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to find free food. But I'm saying that taxpayers have no obligation in any universe to buy her
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groceries. We've been paying her bills for a decade. And frankly, if we're being honest, she probably
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wasn't doing much with those 10 years anyway at her job, because most of these federal employees
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aren't. But Denise, for all that I've criticized her, is 10,000 times more sympathetic than other
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alleged victims of this government shutdown. For example, this is a real video that was posted by
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Senator Amy Klobuchar after a recent testimony in Congress. And here's the caption that the senator
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posted, quote, today we heard from Felicia, a single mom of four who works up to three jobs at a time to
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make ends meet. She counts on SNAP to help put food on the table. This is who Republicans in Congress
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are trying to take food away from. Listen to her story. So here it is. This is Felicia, who drives
00:25:21.940
students for the school district. And this is the person who they have chosen to put on camera as an
00:25:32.420
example of someone who might starve without food stamps. So watch this.
00:25:38.540
As an employee of the school district, I only get paid once a month. By the time I get my bills paid,
00:25:44.700
I have nothing left to pay for food and other basic needs. If it wasn't for SNAP benefits,
00:25:51.640
I wouldn't be able to feed my children or myself. I work, pay my bills, and like every other mom,
00:25:59.780
I want to be sure that I have enough food to put on the table.
00:26:02.860
So it almost seems like intentional. It almost seems like a poke in the eye, an intentional poke in the
00:26:12.680
eye, uh, to trot this person out. And then for Senator Klobuchar to post the video, because I mean,
00:26:21.800
if you're listening to the audio podcast and you didn't see the visual, let's just say that this woman
00:26:27.060
does not appear to be starving. I mean, this woman is, and I'm not trying to be mean, but she's looks
00:26:34.760
to be well over 300 pounds, probably pushing 400. And it's the height of absurdity for a U.S.
00:26:42.360
Senator to present this woman of all people as someone who urgently needs taxpayers to fund her
00:26:47.940
grocery bill. She can, again, not try to be mean. It's just a fact. She could clearly afford major
00:26:54.160
cutbacks to her food spending. And not only that, it would clearly be beneficial to her health.
00:27:00.340
In fact, it's like the humane thing to do. When you have someone like this, who's going to die
00:27:05.520
because they're, they're overeating so much and they're eating all the wrong things to put them
00:27:10.140
in a position where they have to think before they spend money on muffins and soda and candy
00:27:15.020
and various slabs of meat and so on is actually, it's actually good for them.
00:27:20.060
And again, this is the most sympathetic witness that Democrats could find. It only gets worse from
00:27:23.900
here. Illegal aliens, okay, are some of the main recipients of food stamps, for example. Here's a
00:27:29.780
recent admission from the administration of Maine governor, Janet Mills. And in case you can't make it
00:27:36.600
out, Janet Mills acknowledges in this document that Maine provides SNAP benefits to non-citizens,
00:27:41.180
including 5,000 non-citizens with EBT cards who don't have jobs, even though they're eligible to
00:27:47.520
work. And EBT cards are very valuable online, as you may imagine, or very valuable in general,
00:27:55.020
as you may imagine. We'll put a few receipts on the screen right now. Some states print your total
00:28:00.060
EBT balance on the receipt. And as you can see, there are people with EBT balances of over $10,000 in
00:28:06.060
some cases. It's clearly an excess of what any reasonable person would need for groceries. Watch.
00:28:13.400
I can tell you personally that when I worked at the grocery store and I cashed them out,
00:28:17.340
the receipts were alarming. $13,000 on EBT food, not including the $29,000 that was on EBT cash.
00:28:30.580
It's infuriating. Yes, sir. And while they're dressed very well, very well, uh, how are you
00:28:42.800
able to dress like that? Coming over here as running for help that we're supposedly helping
00:28:48.700
them? How are you dressed like that when we, the American people are scrapping for the next set
00:28:54.500
of work boots? That's a problem. That's a serious problem.
00:29:01.960
It is indeed a serious problem. And it gets worse when you realize how many illegal aliens are taking
00:29:07.120
advantage of the system. It's not just 5,000 people in Maine. This is from the Economic Policy
00:29:11.220
Innovation Center. Quote, the food stamp program provided benefits to 1.4 million non-citizens in
00:29:15.740
fiscal year 2022. The latest data available in the U.S. Department of Agriculture, another 2.2 million
00:29:20.320
children living with non-citizens were also on food stamps. California led the way in enrolling
00:29:25.140
non-citizens on food stamps with 273,000 in fiscal year 2022. So there's a clear incentive here for
00:29:32.940
illegal aliens to have children, not simply so that those children can be citizens, but also so that
00:29:36.900
they can collect food stamps. That may be part of the reason why, according to the Center for
00:29:41.080
Immigration Studies, quote, compared to households headed by the U.S. born, U.S. born immigrant-headed
00:29:45.540
households have especially high use of food programs, 36 percent versus 25 percent for the
00:29:51.520
U.S. born. Additionally, quote, food stamp used by Afghan households increased the most from 19 percent
00:29:57.500
to 35 percent between 2010 and 2019, while falling from 11 percent to 10 percent for native-born
00:30:04.260
households. Yes, 35 percent of Afghan households were on food stamps. A typical family of four will receive
00:30:12.760
around $800 in monthly assistance, which is more than many American families spend of their own
00:30:18.060
money. This is not just wasteful spending. This is a direct attack on you and your family. You're
00:30:24.960
being robbed at gunpoint by the state and forced to subsidize foreigners. We are inviting people to
00:30:30.360
come to this country and live off of the labor of its citizens. Words cannot describe how evil this is.
00:30:38.480
And by the way, for anyone who still draws comparisons between, oh, the immigrants who
00:30:44.440
come here is no different from, you know, your ancestors who came here in the 1800s or the 1700s.
00:30:52.760
No, see, this is the difference. Among others, this is one of the big differences.
00:30:58.260
Right? Because, you know, historically, the people who came to this country, the pioneers,
00:31:03.060
they weren't coming here to get free food. It didn't work that way.
00:31:10.020
They had to provide for themselves and their families and their communities.
00:31:13.280
Now we have immigrants coming for free stuff that we have to pay for. We have to feed them.
00:31:19.400
I've long said that government shutdowns serve no purpose, that they inevitably get resolved with
00:31:23.660
no meaningful interruption or changes to anyone's life. This particular shutdown presents a clear
00:31:27.300
opportunity for a different result. I mean, this time around, it's extremely easy to see how much overt
00:31:31.640
waste and corruption is inherent in the SNAP system, largely because the people receiving
00:31:36.840
these benefits, you know, can't stop posting on TikTok, kind of bragging about how wasteful it is.
00:31:41.760
They're revealing inadvertently that they don't actually need the money. They're telling us that
00:31:46.240
they don't need the money in about a dozen different ways, by making threats, by highlighting
00:31:50.560
the testimony of morbidly obese women, by admitting that they're handing the cash to illegal aliens,
00:31:56.280
and so on. So let's listen to these people for once. Let's abolish the SNAP program altogether.
00:32:03.180
Let's make this government shutdown, the first shutdown in the history of this country that's
00:32:06.420
actually been productive. Nobody's going to starve as a result, but a few million people against
00:32:13.220
their will might have to learn the all-important twin concepts of budgeting and dieting. And if that
00:32:18.740
happens, which it will if SNAP is abolished, we will all be much better off as a result.
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first $5 lineup. PrizePix, it's good to be right. So yesterday we talked about Zoran Mamdani who
00:33:56.120
claimed that his aunt was the real victim of 9-11. Nobody suffered on 9-11 like Zoran Mamdani's aunt
00:34:01.560
did because she felt weird wearing a hijab on the train after 9-11. Nothing happened to her, to be
00:34:07.540
clear. She was not the victim of any kind of attack. Nobody even said anything to her, apparently.
00:34:12.580
She just felt weird wearing the scarf after 9-11. And that was a tragedy. That was a tragedy so
00:34:23.320
great that 25 years later, Zoran Mamdani couldn't even talk about it without crying. Well, there's
00:34:30.560
one problem with this story that we alluded to yesterday, and that is that, well, there's a lot
00:34:35.260
of problems. But one of them is that this aunt doesn't appear to actually exist. Bit of a minor
00:34:42.780
detail. Only minor if you're a pathological liar. So Mamdani was asked about this yesterday, and
00:34:51.160
In a recent address about Islamophobia, you referenced your mom, it's a medieval class when
00:34:55.720
she was facing post 9-11. Is that a blood relative?
00:34:58.920
Yes, that's... I was speaking about my aunt. I was speaking about Zerafoui, my father's cousin,
00:35:07.700
who sadly passed away a few years ago. And for the takeaway from my more than 10-minute address
00:35:15.620
about Islamophobia in this race and in this city, to be the question of my aunt, tells you everything
00:35:25.540
Okay, so this aunt was his father's cousin, which means that his aunt is not really his aunt, but
00:35:32.640
that would be his, what, his second cousin or his first cousin once removed or whatever. Not exactly
00:35:38.700
sure. Definitely not his aunt. So he lied. And this is not a pedantic thing, by the way. This is not
00:35:44.620
like some kind of technicality. The lie actually does matter because it was a calculated lie is
00:35:50.900
what I'm saying. It was not, it was a calculated lie. Because let's pretend, I mean, the whole point
00:35:55.520
of him bringing it up was he was trying to say that Islamophobia is this terrible thing. It's a real
00:35:59.000
problem. Well, let's pretend that the story is true. Aside from him lying about the relationship,
00:36:05.080
let's pretend that everything else is true. Well, imagine how different it sounds if he had been
00:36:12.620
honest and said, Islamophobia is real. My father's cousin was nervous about wearing a hijab.
00:36:23.140
That doesn't sound nearly as compelling, does it? I mean, the original story didn't sound
00:36:27.460
compelling either. But the point is that your father's cousin, right? If you're trying to,
00:36:32.100
you know, use some sort of anecdotal argument to prove that something is a, this is, if you want
00:36:36.860
to use an anecdote to try to indicate that there's some kind of major systemic problem going on, well,
00:36:42.620
already that's a problem because an anecdote would not prove anything. But if the anecdote is your
00:36:47.240
father's cousin, then it just, it actually proves the opposite point, right? That's, you know, the
00:36:57.500
nearest, the nearest that is quote unquote Islamophobia has ever hit home for you is when your distant
00:37:03.920
relation, your father's cousin didn't want to wear a hijab, which again makes the opposite point of
00:37:11.360
the one that mom Donnie is trying to make, uh, which is why he lied. You know, it was entirely
00:37:18.700
calculated and everything this guy says is of course, uh, entirely calculated, which is why I also don't,
00:37:27.600
I know there've been some conservatives who I I've seen here and there, like on, on X have, um,
00:37:33.040
who have wanted to give mom Donnie some credit to some extent, even if they're not agreeing with
00:37:41.000
him on the issues, they want to give him credit, give him credit for having a populist economic
00:37:48.120
message and all this kind of stuff. I don't give him credit for anything. I mean, this guy, this is an
00:37:54.980
evil guy. He's a liar. He's a fraud. He's a phony. And I don't even give him credit because I keep
00:38:03.460
hearing again, even from some people on the right that, well, he's so charismatic and likable.
00:38:08.240
What? What are you talking? I mean, I'm not trying to be contrarian far, far be it for me to ever be
00:38:15.220
contrarian, but I'm really, it's really not what I'm doing here. Like I, you know, they're, if someone's
00:38:21.120
on the left and they're charismatic, I'll admit that they're charismatic because that doesn't, you
00:38:23.700
can be charismatic. It's still evil. We all know that. But in this case, I just don't, I don't see
00:38:31.080
it. What do you mean? He's what, like, what's special about this guy? Um, we know his, his, his,
00:38:38.280
he's a communist. So all of his positions are communist positions. They're not populist positions
00:38:43.500
or communist positions. But what's the part I've seen at this point, a lot of clips of this guy,
00:38:48.500
unfortunately, and we've talked about on the show and done a fair amount of research into him.
00:38:52.960
And I've just been waiting for that clip where I would see it and go, wow, this guy's got a lot
00:38:56.200
of charisma. This is a really talented politician. Instead. It's just like, it's pretty standard
00:39:00.420
boilerplate stuff for a politician. I just don't see it. I don't know what everyone's talking about.
00:39:05.960
Now, then again, they said that about Obama and I felt the same way. I hear Obama speak and I'm like,
00:39:10.820
what do you, what is everyone talking about? This guy is some sort of one of the great orators of
00:39:16.060
our generation. Really? I don't, I started, I don't see it. I don't know what you're talking
00:39:22.840
about. And I certainly don't see it with this guy. Not that it matters anyway. I mean, charismatic or
00:39:29.720
not, he's an evil guy and he's going to destroy whatever is left of New York. Speaking of liars,
00:39:35.800
by the way, this was funny. Last week I, I responded to the failed MSNBC personality,
00:39:41.000
Mehdi Hassan, who we can all agree is certainly somebody without charisma.
00:39:46.380
And he was trying to explain, it all started because he was trying to explain, he was giving
00:39:49.900
some kind of, I don't even know the kind of, he was talking to somebody who asked him a question
00:39:54.200
on camera, but he was trying to explain why the Muslim call to prayer blasting out at five in the
00:40:00.240
morning in an American town is just as legitimate as church bells in America. And then he went on to
00:40:06.740
say that he is just as American as anybody else, even though he's a Muslim Indian who came here
00:40:13.260
from the UK 10 years ago to work for Al Jazeera. Okay. He came here in his mid thirties to work in
00:40:20.440
media. Well, Mehdi didn't, so I talked about the show. We were, I responded to it and Mehdi really
00:40:28.900
didn't like my response that much. He was pretty offended by it. It's cool. It's clear that he was
00:40:33.980
especially offended when I pointed out that his show got low ratings that in particular really
00:40:40.100
got to him. So he's been tweeting at me for days now. I mean, for days he has been posting
00:40:46.700
frantically. Um, and he did a video response, which was really quite low effort and low energy.
00:40:53.500
And he's also just been tweeting multiple times a day, every day. And it finally culminated last night
00:41:00.160
in, in, in, in the inevitable, right? I mean, this is a guy who there's just nothing going on.
00:41:06.660
He's like a totally empty person. There's nothing. I think if you were to peer inside his mind,
00:41:14.540
I don't, and you know, you might argue it's probably a pretty dark place, but I think it's
00:41:19.000
dark in the sense, like there's just nothing happening, nothing happening inside his mind at
00:41:22.960
all. Just a very, very stupid, unimpressive, uh, person who's failed and everything he's tried to
00:41:29.620
do in life. So, but that also makes him predictable. So you know exactly what he's going to do. So he,
00:41:34.920
he, this is what it culminated. And he tagged Ben Shapiro in a post to try to get me fired.
00:41:41.540
And the basis for this was that I retweeted a bar graph about EBT from some random account that had a
00:41:50.280
bar graph that I thought was interesting. And so I retweeted the bar graph. And apparently,
00:41:54.640
according to Medi, this guy posted this, whoever this random account has posted something offensive
00:41:58.360
a year ago or whatever. I don't know the lamest possible pretense. So he tweeted this, Hey Ben
00:42:03.640
Shapiro, I know you're super tagging Ben. I know you're super antisemitism, uh, or super anti-antisemitism.
00:42:11.100
So just letting you know, an employee of yours, Matt Walsh is sharing graphs from a card carrying far
00:42:20.280
So we've reached the tattletale portion of Medi's public meltdown. We've reached the part where he's
00:42:25.680
running to the principal. I'm telling, I'm telling mom, Matt's being mean. That's, that's what we've
00:42:35.960
got to. And the funny thing is that first of all, I'm not getting fired. Uh, second, what does he think
00:42:43.380
it would accomplish if I did get fired? Would I just retire from public life? And like, it's not
00:42:51.180
going to happen, but would I retire from public life and never say another word again? Is that,
00:42:55.780
is that what he's hoping for? Is that the plan? Well, that's not how it works anymore. And this is
00:43:01.620
the problem for these people is that they only have two modes, right? Only two modes. And, and, and they,
00:43:09.020
they, uh, they have not developed a third mode. It's only two. And the first mode. So when, when you
00:43:16.500
challenge them and when you got to keep in mind, Medi Hassan is the kind of guy who's, he's, he has not,
00:43:22.180
he really has, he's not put himself in positions in life where he would be challenged. And he's
00:43:28.980
always, you know, he's at NSNBC. He was, he was at Al Jazeera. He's like stayed very firmly in these
00:43:34.420
bubbles where nobody would ever challenge him. Also, nobody's watching him. Nobody cares. No one's
00:43:39.540
listening to what he says. So he doesn't get challenged. And now for the first time, he's
00:43:44.720
getting challenged a little bit and he can't take it. So he goes back to these, the only two modes.
00:43:49.440
And the first mode is to call you a bigot, blah, blah, you're racist, whatever. Uh, tried that
00:43:57.140
surprisingly, not effective, you know, yelling the word racist at me for the 10 billionth time,
00:44:03.720
shockingly has no effect. Like you can say it is there's no reason you're, you may as well just be
00:44:10.940
shouting gibberish. Like the word doesn't mean anything to me. And, um, all that accomplished was
00:44:18.300
encouraging thousands of people to laugh at him and mock him, which they were doing.
00:44:21.900
So now he's moved on to step number two, which is the only other thing, which is, okay, that didn't
00:44:27.220
work. Let's try to get him fired. Uh, so this is the problem that the left has that they only have
00:44:32.560
these two strategies, these two moves, and both of them are totally ineffectual. Now they've been
00:44:37.040
rendered completely impotent and they don't know what to do about it. And, uh, it's pathetic to watch.
00:44:44.960
It's also kind of funny, but it's pathetic, especially in many's case. I think it's really,
00:44:50.900
really sad. This guy got fired from his job at MSNBC because his show was pulling in 37,000
00:44:56.860
viewers in the key demographic, 37,000, which is almost impossibly bad. Do you understand? I mean,
00:45:05.140
keep in mind cable news, a certain level of viewership is baked in. You automatically get,
00:45:10.060
it's like when you sign your name on the SAT or whatever, and you, you automatically get
00:45:14.780
points just for signing your name. So, uh, you know, when you, when you count for dentist
00:45:21.340
office waiting rooms and, and, uh, airport terminals, that kind of thing. So a certain
00:45:27.360
amount of it is baked in taking those out. Was any human in the entire country actually choosing
00:45:32.380
to tune in to Medi Hassan's show? It's doubtful. I mean, maybe he had some family members, maybe,
00:45:39.720
maybe mom, Donnie's dad's cousin was watching. I don't know. So very low numbers, but then he
00:45:45.640
gets fired. He tries to become a podcaster. Nobody cares. Nobody's listening. He's making
00:45:49.760
no cultural impact whatsoever. I mean, you could go up, pull a thousand people, random people,
00:45:56.880
doesn't matter. You know, pull a thousand people, ask them, who's your favorite podcaster?
00:46:00.880
Who's your favorite commentator? Who's someone who's really making an impact on you? Zero of the
00:46:05.760
1,000 would say, well, you know, Medi Hassan, that's my guy. Zero of the 1,000 would say that.
00:46:14.920
And so now he's, uh, it's gotten so bad that he's actually been like this week, he's been tweeting,
00:46:19.400
bragging about how many views he got on his rebuttal to my video, even though all of his views
00:46:23.900
are people who clicked on the video so they could leave a comment making fun of him. So all the comments
00:46:29.300
are just crapping all over him. The guy had one viral video in his life and it was the one where
00:46:35.660
he was talking about me and, uh, 98% of the views are people hate watching. And he's so happy about
00:46:41.040
it. He's so happy for the first time. He's been, he's been, he's been kind of plugging away in the
00:46:47.740
media business for, for decades really. And no one has ever cared or paid attention or watched at
00:46:54.260
all. And for the first time people are watching, and even though they're watching just so they can
00:46:59.700
leave a comment and make fun of him, it's still like, he's so kind of happy to have been noticed.
00:47:05.960
And I just, uh, I actually feel bad. Well, I would almost feel bad for him if he wasn't such an
00:47:10.600
anti-American, anti-Christian, detestable, soulless, parasitic, grifting, scumbag liar. If it weren't for
00:47:15.520
that, I would actually feel bad for him. Um, speaking of other people that are kind of
00:47:22.180
pathetic, Karen Jean pair has been on her book tour and, uh, I think it's a book tour. I think
00:47:27.820
she has a book out or something, but yesterday she appeared on MSNBC where she again made her case
00:47:33.720
for why people should pay attention to her. And her case is that she's a queer black woman
00:47:40.740
and she has a found a way. Cause I've seen a few clips now of her on this book tour.
00:47:45.520
Every single interview, she finds a way to wedge that in. And it's always in response to a question
00:47:50.660
that has nothing to do with it. It's always like, Oh, Karen, great to see you. What did you eat for
00:47:56.000
breakfast this morning? Well, you know, as a queer black woman, I, I, I ate waffles
00:48:01.360
as a, as a clear, as a queer black woman, I decided I need to order some waffles.
00:48:09.320
So she's been doing this her whole career. So I thought it'd be fun. I had my team go back and
00:48:15.240
just kind of make a montage of every time. Well, not even every time, like not close to every time,
00:48:19.340
but some of the times when Karen Jean pair has bragged about being a queer black woman.
00:48:25.920
I woke up every day as a, as a black woman who is queer and as the first openly queer person to hold
00:48:35.220
the position of press secretary for the president of the United States. I see every day how important
00:48:40.780
visibility and representation are. I am a black gay immigrant woman as the first black openly queer
00:48:47.160
white house press secretary as a black woman, as a person who's also LGBTQ as a black woman who has
00:48:54.620
walked through the walls of the white house. And I meant a lot to people of because of the
00:49:00.420
communities that I represented and it, they felt seen when they saw me at the podium, whether it was
00:49:06.120
women of color, black women, queer community, LGBTQ community, they felt seen. I am a black woman.
00:49:13.140
I'm a queer woman. I'm an immigrant. I'm black. I'm a black woman. I'm queer. I'm an immigrant and
00:49:23.040
You know, I could be wrong. And listen, I'm not, I'm no Karen Jean pair biographer by any means,
00:49:31.860
but it seems like maybe she's a queer black woman. I'm, I'm picking up on subtle hints. I subtly,
00:49:39.380
she, she just, she drops these little hints every once in a while, these little, little breadcrumbs.
00:49:44.340
She drops these little breadcrumbs, these little queer breadcrumbs. And you, you follow the breadcrumbs
00:49:50.760
through the forest. Very careful. You need, you need like a magnifying glass to follow the breadcrumbs
00:49:57.080
through the forest. And then you get to the, Oh, it's a queer black woman. It leads all the way to a
00:50:00.960
queer black woman in the forest. Um, it's imperceptible. I mean, it really is. It's very faint. It's very
00:50:08.600
imperceptible. So I think now, look, I've been doing this for a long time in the, in the media
00:50:13.860
business. So I, I get this, a media savvy you need would to look at that clip and read between the
00:50:20.140
lines. And you can kind of tell that what she's wants to highlight is that she's a queer black woman.
00:50:28.620
So I know you need me, you need me to interpret that for you. So I just want to let you know.
00:50:31.860
Um, anyway, speaking of, uh, you know, things that don't work anymore. I mean, this, this,
00:50:42.220
you know, she's, she's Karen Jean pair was living her best life in the year 2020 in the year of Floyd.
00:50:54.780
Right. There was about, there was about, there was about six and a half minutes of, of time
00:50:59.620
when just saying that may have been enough in, in some audiences to like win, win an argument
00:51:08.820
and she is clinging onto it. Uh, and the whole culture has moved way beyond this, right? No one
00:51:19.860
should have ever cared. Like being able to say, I'm a queer black woman that should not have ever
00:51:24.260
won an argument. I mean, never actually did win an argument, but it, it should never have,
00:51:28.300
you know, it should not have, there should not have been any social credit that you, that you
00:51:32.700
gained from saying that. Um, but you did for a time and now everyone's moved on. And so everyone
00:51:40.460
hears that and says the same thing, which is okay. And queer black woman, queer black woman,
00:51:52.360
the Karen Jean pair story, that should be, that should be her. The only, you know, the only
00:51:55.900
surprising thing is that that is not the title of her, of her book. I don't think it is. Maybe it
00:52:01.960
is. What is the, what's her, what's her book called? Does she put that in the title?
00:52:09.660
No, she doesn't. Okay. A look inside a broken white house is the name of the book. Independent,
00:52:16.180
a look inside a broken white. I never even looked up the books. That's a look inside a broken
00:52:20.180
white house. Like the white house that she was a part of, that she was helping to run.
00:52:26.960
So I'm, I'm shocked that the title of the book is not
00:52:30.100
queer black woman, the story of Karen Jean pair, a queer black woman written by queer black woman,
00:52:44.080
Karen Jean pair, who's a queer black woman. I'm shocked that that is not the title of the book.
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You do a show like this long enough, inevitably there are stories that end up resurfacing over
00:54:54.020
the years. And yeah, occasionally there's a reason to revisit some of my old monologues,
00:54:59.800
if you can believe it. And when this happens, it's never a good thing. In fact, it's usually
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because some horrible disaster has occurred. And we spent several shows talking about the imminent
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risk of a midair collision at low altitude, for example. And then after that military helicopter
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crashed into an American Airlines jet, all of a sudden, those old shows became relevant again.
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And today is yet another one of these moments. And we have to revisit an old episode because a
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horrible tragedy, one that was extremely painfully preventable, has occurred. So I'm going to play a
00:55:29.360
short excerpt from my opening monologue back in September of 2023. Here's the background. I was
00:55:34.280
talking about the killing of a 17-year-old white high school student in Akron, Ohio, named Ethan
00:55:39.860
Lyman. In the summer of 2022, Lyman and his friends decided to harass random people with a toy gun
00:55:46.480
that shot water pellets. In particular, Lyman and his friends shot water pellets at three black men
00:55:52.220
between the ages of 19 and 21 who were playing basketball, including a man named Deshaun Stafford.
00:55:57.220
Initially, the three men thought they were under attack, started to run away. But eventually,
00:56:03.100
the three men, apparently realizing that there was no actual imminent threat to them,
00:56:09.260
ran back towards Lyman. And once they caught up to him, Deshaun Stafford brutally beat and stomped
00:56:15.460
Ethan Lyman to death. This was not a case of self-defense. At this point, they were well past the
00:56:21.720
point where they knew this was not a real gun. It was water. And they're stomping on him. And it's a
00:56:27.380
pretty good indication if you're stomping on someone on the ground, that means it's not self-defense,
00:56:32.180
because that means they're on the ground. Lyman was found with blood coming out of his ears and
00:56:37.940
nose. There was a shoe print on his chest. And on top of that, Stafford and his friends stole
00:56:42.620
Lyman's car and fled the scene after Lyman was dead. Now, prosecutors initially brought murder
00:56:47.440
charges, but they later decided to reduce the charges to involuntary manslaughter and assault
00:56:51.120
after one of the prosecutors said that Lyman had died in a case of, quote, hood justice,
00:56:56.420
meaning Ethan Lyman had it coming. So notice what's happening here. Three black men brutally
00:57:02.460
executed a white 17-year-old, not because of self-defense, but just because they were mad at
00:57:08.300
him. They were just mad. They wanted to make a point. And there were obvious reasons to suspect
00:57:14.160
that the race of the victim contributed to the brutality of the killing. But instead of talking
00:57:19.220
about that, prosecutors used race to absolve the killers of responsibility. Oh, they were
00:57:24.340
just dispensing hood justice. Clear implication is that the white kid had it coming, because this
00:57:30.600
is how justice works in black neighborhoods like this, apparently. Then at trial, the jury,
00:57:35.940
again presumably for racial reasons, failed to convict Deshaun Stafford on involuntary manslaughter.
00:57:41.080
In the end, he was only convicted for assault. And here's what I said at the time for context.
00:57:46.040
This week, Ethan Lyman's killers got off with a conviction for assault. That's it. They were
00:57:53.240
acquitted of involuntary manslaughter. It's as if they just got into a nasty bar fight or something.
00:57:58.500
They stomped somebody to death, and all they're getting is an assault charge. Conviction, rather.
00:58:04.940
So they'll almost certainly be out of jail within two years, if not sooner. This is jury nullification
00:58:10.340
encouraged by prosecutors. There's no other term that you can use to describe this.
00:58:16.040
Now, I refer to this verdict as jury nullification, but actually, it was worse than that. The
00:58:22.200
prosecutors decided not to retry any of the other defendants on the involuntary manslaughter
00:58:26.880
charge, even though they could have done so. So the prosecutors effectively endorsed the jury's
00:58:31.780
decision to convict Deshaun Stafford and his co-defendants for assault. As I predicted at the
00:58:38.820
time, Stafford ended up spending less than two years in prison. Specifically, he spent the six months of
00:58:44.260
his sentence in a halfway house that was fully released in December of 2024. But his freedom
00:58:49.620
didn't last long. This summer, he was arrested once again. And shortly afterwards, he had another
00:58:54.480
criminal conviction on his record. This is from a report in Yahoo News from the beginning of this
00:58:58.100
month. Quote, two brothers who were convicted of assault charges and the beating death of an
00:59:01.940
Akron teen in the I Promise school parking lot has been convicted of new felony charges.
00:59:06.860
Deshaun Stafford was sentenced to probation this week for a drug charge. Stafford, 23,
00:59:11.700
was at a party on June 29th when he was approached by an officer while dancing in the street. The
00:59:15.720
officer found cocaine in his pocket. Judge Mary Margaret Rowlands placed Deshaun on probation for
00:59:21.600
six months on October 1st. This is the judge in question for what it's worth. And for our audio
00:59:29.820
podcast listeners, she's exactly what you would expect her to look like. Which is to say she's a
00:59:36.860
woman? Because in so many of these cases, as we've seen, it just so happens, coincidentally,
00:59:43.340
and in so many cases where they let these violent thugs out, it's these are female judges. Not always,
00:59:50.020
but but so often. She gave Deshaun Stafford probation with no prison time after he was caught
00:59:55.260
with cocaine immediately after getting out of prison for killing someone. Now, make no mistake about it.
01:00:00.920
The judge knew exactly what she was doing. She knows that people who commit a crime, any crime,
01:00:05.980
are dramatically more likely than the general population to commit violent crimes in the future.
01:00:09.940
With each crime they commit, that likelihood increases exponentially. That's especially true
01:00:14.700
when you're talking about serious crimes like violent assault and cocaine possession. If we went back to
01:00:19.480
three strike laws, something like 50 percent of all violent crime would vanish overnight.
01:00:25.980
So the only reason not to throw the book at somebody like Deshaun Stafford is because you
01:00:31.080
want him to commit more crime and destroy even more lives. And indeed, in a matter of weeks,
01:00:36.080
that's exactly what Deshaun Stafford did. He killed yet another young white victim. Watch.
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A man who served time in connection to the death of an Akron high school student has now been charged for
01:00:49.960
his connection to shooting and killing an innocent bystander. Deshaun Stafford is facing several
01:00:55.420
charges, including murder in the deadly shooting of Timothy Hutchinson. Police say Hutchinson was
01:01:01.300
caught in the crossfire earlier this month in Highland Square. Investigators believe Stafford
01:01:06.560
shot at a man who then fired back, hitting Hutchinson. The other suspect has been arrested,
01:01:11.900
facing separate charges. Stafford was released earlier this year after serving time for an assault
01:01:17.200
charge in the death of 17-year-old Ethan Liming back in 2022. Liming died from a head injury during
01:01:22.600
a fight with Stafford and his brother after Liming and his friend shot gel pellets at them while they
01:01:27.400
were playing basketball outside the I Promise school in Akron. News 5's Bob Jones spoke with
01:01:31.760
Hutchinson's father earlier this month. He told us his son loved to fish in camp, and he had graduated
01:01:37.240
from the University of Akron just last spring with a degree in mechanical engineering, and he was working
01:01:41.720
in Worcester. So this is essentially a felony murder charge, as best I could tell. Deshaun Stafford
01:01:50.160
started shooting at someone, and in self-defense, that person shot back and accidentally hit 25-year-old
01:01:56.080
Timothy Hutchinson, who was an innocent bystander. But because he started the shootout, Stafford is being
01:02:01.420
charged for Hutchinson's murder because he is 100% responsible. He is the murderer here. Now, in an ideal
01:02:08.780
society, that would be the end of the story. But we obviously don't live in an ideal society, so we have
01:02:13.780
to ask, will that charge stick? Will a jury nullify those charges as well? And if not, what kind of
01:02:21.520
sentence do you think the liberal female judge will hand down? What's your best guess? Five years? Ten?
01:02:30.080
After killing his second person? How many? Now, personally, I predict eight years or so at most.
01:02:37.060
First, when Deshaun Stafford finally kills someone that the system cares about, meaning not a white
01:02:42.660
guy, that's when he'll face serious lifelong consequences and not a moment sooner. That's
01:02:48.260
because, as it's currently set up, our justice system, this is the way it works. Our justice system
01:02:53.180
will basically spot you one murder, as long as you're in the right demographic. If you're in the right
01:02:59.560
demographic and you are an official codified victim, according to the way the system works,
01:03:05.580
which is to say you're anything but a white guy, then they'll give you one. Like, you can kill one
01:03:11.940
person with no significant penalty. After you kill your second, and it's guaranteed you will,
01:03:19.640
then they'll think about maybe putting you away for a decade or two. This is literally how the
01:03:25.480
system works, and it's total madness. Every other day, we hear about people getting killed because
01:03:29.940
the government, in the name of equity, decided not to enforce the law. Remember this crash from last
01:03:34.380
week? You can see it on the screen. A 21-year-old illegal migrant from India drove an 18-wheeler
01:03:39.940
into stop traffic on the freeway in California, didn't even attempt to hit the brakes, killed three
01:03:45.560
people, seriously injured several others. The driver, Jashun Preet Singh, entered this country
01:03:51.780
illegally in 2022, but instead of deporting him, the Biden administration let him stay.
01:03:55.860
Now, several people are dead, including 76-year-old Clarence Nelson and 69-year-old Lisa Nelson.
01:04:00.300
Now, Singh has been charged with vehicular manslaughter while intoxicated and driving
01:04:04.860
under the influence, and those sound like serious charges, but as an illegal alien,
01:04:10.040
Singh is obviously entitled to preferential treatment, which is how things work now. So,
01:04:16.200
with that in mind, how long until a California judge lets him loose? Without informing ICE, of course.
01:04:22.000
How long until Singh is driving his 18-wheeler again? How long until he slaughters more victims? Five
01:04:29.560
years? Less? At a certain point, we have to decide how long we're going to allow our communities to be
01:04:35.540
held hostage by these barbarians. No one should get a mulligan after killing another human being,
01:04:41.400
or invading our country, or committing any other serious crime. You know, I did a show on Ethan
01:04:46.980
Liming back in 2023. I received more than a few comments about how Ethan Liming was in the wrong,
01:04:52.180
and had it coming for shooting the toy gun at those three black men. And these people criticized
01:04:57.720
me for assuming the worst about Deshaun Stafford. Well, you know, guess what? Sometimes assuming the
01:05:03.880
worst is the right approach. Sometimes it saves the lives of innocent people. And the possibility of
01:05:10.200
saving an innocent person is infinitely more important than showing kindness to criminals, or
01:05:14.440
giving them the benefit of the doubt, or giving them a second chance. The deaths of Timothy
01:05:20.720
Hutchinson, Clarence Nelson, and Lisa Nelson were horrible, yes, but they were also extremely
01:05:26.140
predictable and preventable. And it's time we start preventing them. That'll do it for the show
01:05:33.680
today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.
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