The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 169 - Feminist Brags About Her Abortion To Children

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, Elizabeth Warren makes an attempt at being relatable and the results are interesting.

00:00:07.320 We'll talk about that. Also, the pro-abortion left has made another disturbing attempt to indoctrinate children and we're going to discuss that as well.

00:00:15.400 Finally, many conservatives have been rather obsessed with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:00:22.140 Is that obsession backfiring? I would say yes, and I'll explain why today on the Matt Walsh Show.

00:00:30.000 Well, it's good to be with all of you today. Hang on a second. I'm going to grab me a beer very casually.

00:00:47.680 Say, did y'all happen to catch that big sporting match over the weekend?

00:00:53.240 I tell you what, when the star player got that score at the end of the game, I just about went crazy.

00:01:00.880 I jumped up and I started slapping hands with all of my ethnically diverse friends and we all said, yes, go sports!

00:01:09.320 And it was just, anyway, I'm just shooting the breeze.

00:01:13.360 I guess, I confess I'm a bit jazzed today by that Elizabeth Warren video.

00:01:20.740 I don't know if you saw it, but Elizabeth Warren is trying to be relatable to the common man, you know. 0.99

00:01:26.960 And so she did an Instachat internet video where she stopped at the beginning of the video to drink a beer.

00:01:34.460 And, you know, she made sure to film herself drinking a beer so that everyone would see that Elizabeth Warren drinks beer. 1.00

00:01:40.060 And, man, it was the most relatable thing you will ever see.

00:01:44.700 In fact, I was at the bar when I heard about it.

00:01:48.480 This young fellow sitting next to me, he pulls out his cellular telephone and he says,

00:01:53.140 hey, everybody, check out this video clip. Elizabeth Warren is just like us. 1.00

00:01:57.300 And I looked at it and sure enough, she's there throwing back an old brewski, as the kids like to say.

00:02:03.180 So, look, I'll just say this, okay, at the beginning, I'm a conservative, and that's no secret.

00:02:09.320 But I've got to admit to any Democrat who is listening, Elizabeth Warren is a dynamic politician. 0.99

00:02:18.520 She is an absolute star.

00:02:21.340 Frankly, as a conservative, I am terrified, I'm petrified at the prospect of her running for president in 2020.

00:02:27.620 It just, it terrifies me because nobody can connect with the average American like Senator Warren.

00:02:36.300 We have never seen a political figure who resonates, especially with the young, the way that Warren does.

00:02:44.020 You know, I forgot to mention, my favorite part of that video is, the best part is when she brings her husband into the shot 0.98

00:02:51.680 and she actually says to her husband, thank you for being here, and then pats him on the back.

00:02:57.740 She says that to her own husband in their own kitchen.

00:03:01.260 Now, if that does not qualify as natural human dialogue between two married people, then I don't know what does.

00:03:07.060 In fact, it reminds me of my own wife, who every morning before I leave for work, 0.99

00:03:11.680 she always shakes my hand and says, please, please stay in touch.

00:03:15.640 It's just, that's the way, right?

00:03:17.760 Like, that's the way married people talk to each other. 0.98

00:03:19.640 We talk to each other like we are, you know, a wife talks to her husband like she's a game show host 0.80

00:03:27.300 greeting a, you know, a contestant, like Pat Sajak when he's interviewing the contestants during Wheel of Fortune.

00:03:34.980 That's just, that's how we talk to each other, right?

00:03:36.980 It's totally normal.

00:03:38.360 If Warren gets the nomination, I'm going to have to switch political teams.

00:03:42.920 This is just my confession right now, okay?

00:03:45.640 And I'm not alone in that.

00:03:46.960 Elizabeth Warren is just that magnetic. 1.00

00:03:49.640 Think about it.

00:03:50.980 Any old politician can try to earn points with minorities by claiming to be partially a minority.

00:03:58.240 But who besides Warren would have the tenacity and the courage to take a DNA test and prove that they are actually a tenth of a tenth of one percent Native American or maybe Mexican or something in that general ethnic vicinity?

00:04:15.640 I mean, good luck winning even one minority vote if Elizabeth Warren is your opponent, okay?

00:04:21.060 Because rest assured that minorities do not feel at all degraded or insulted or demeaned when you try to earn their support by taking a DNA test.

00:04:30.320 And I know that because my great uncle's best friend's friend was married to someone from the Pacific Islands.

00:04:38.480 So, you know, I'm basically Hawaiian.

00:04:41.180 So I think I can speak to these kinds of things.

00:04:45.060 This woman is formidable. 0.98

00:04:47.080 That's all I'm saying.

00:04:47.840 She scares me even more than a third Hillary Clinton term scares me. 1.00

00:04:51.340 Speaking of which, I thought Hillary Clinton was the most charismatic and genuine politician in American history.

00:04:58.120 But then along comes Elizabeth Warren and it's, look, please, Democrats, don't nominate her, okay?

00:05:04.960 And definitely don't put Warren and Clinton on a ticket together because then you'll win all the votes and you're not going to leave any votes for anyone else.

00:05:13.380 And it's just not fair.

00:05:14.720 So have mercy on us, okay?

00:05:17.140 And please don't nominate Cory Booker either.

00:05:19.080 Or Bernie Sanders, the elderly white socialist who just bought his third house, a $600,000 vacation home.

00:05:28.760 He could win 70 million votes easy.

00:05:32.000 So don't nominate any of these people, Democrats.

00:05:34.940 You would crush us.

00:05:37.080 And I think it should be a fair fight.

00:05:39.960 So give us a chance at least.

00:05:42.620 Be good sports about it.

00:05:44.060 That's all I'm saying.

00:05:46.380 Okay.

00:05:49.080 I'll take off my sarcasm hat now.

00:05:52.360 Yes, I did just mime taking off an actual invisible sarcasm hat.

00:05:57.120 But we'll just move past that.

00:05:59.160 On a more serious note, the Daily Wire reports about this a few days ago.

00:06:05.920 I don't know if you saw this report on the Daily Wire about an awful propaganda video that was released late last week.

00:06:14.740 And it features a radical feminist who's also the founder of Shout Your Abortion, the Shout Your Abortion movement, where women are encouraged to go and brag about their abortions. 0.99

00:06:27.500 And this woman, her name is Amelia Bonau.

00:06:31.020 I don't know how to pronounce her last name.

00:06:32.260 Let's just say, let's just call her Bono.

00:06:34.240 Maybe it's Bono.

00:06:35.460 Amelia Bono extolling the wonders of abortion to a group of children. 0.64

00:06:39.380 Bono sits with a series of visibly uncomfortable kids, and she boasts to them about the time when she decided to kill her child.

00:06:50.740 It really is just a chilling video in so many respects.

00:06:54.660 And she's sitting there, you know, talking to these kids, actually describing the, quote, procedure in this overly childish and anti-scientific language, awkwardly kind of papering over the violent reality of what she's actually discussing.

00:07:13.000 And this, by the way, is the same childish language that pro-abortion people use no matter who they're talking to.

00:07:19.180 When they're talking to adults, they use this same kind of language.

00:07:21.600 So it's not like she toned it down for kids.

00:07:24.660 This is just how they talk about it.

00:07:27.120 She says that when she's asked what abortion is like or what it involves, she says that abortion is sucking out the pregnancy with a, quote, straw.

00:07:39.260 That's how she describes it.

00:07:40.980 And she says that it's important that women have this right because she should not be forced to create life, is how she phrases it,

00:07:49.920 which, of course, is a total misnomer because by the time you're having the abortion, the life has already been created.

00:07:55.780 If the life had not been created yet, then there'd be no reason for the abortion.

00:08:01.260 Abortion is specifically designed to kill a living thing. 1.00

00:08:06.300 If there's no living thing to create or to kill, then there's no need for an abortion. 0.85

00:08:12.300 But if there is a living thing to kill, then that means that the living thing has already been created.

00:08:19.260 Thus, abortion does not prevent the creation of new life.

00:08:23.200 It destroys life that has already been created.

00:08:26.880 There is, I think, a very—that might seem grammatically very similar, but in actuality, those are vastly different things.

00:08:36.600 So she's sitting there.

00:08:40.400 She's talking to these kids. 0.86

00:08:41.440 She admits to the children that she chose to have sex with without contraception.

00:08:48.340 That's how she got pregnant before she got the abortion. 1.00

00:08:50.560 And yes, she is sitting there talking to apparently middle school boys about why she had sex without a condom. 0.93

00:08:57.260 So this is the sexual harassment of children along with everything else.

00:09:01.920 But of the kids that she's talking about, one rather astute young man speculates that maybe she was being reckless, that maybe her behavior is reckless.

00:09:15.660 And this is—this was her response to the charge of being reckless.

00:09:21.140 This is what she says.

00:09:21.820 I'm going to read it verbatim.

00:09:22.860 She says, um, I mean, I don't—I wouldn't really say that I was being reckless.

00:09:29.760 Mistakes happen, and sometimes you just don't do that in the moment.

00:09:33.680 You know what I mean?

00:09:35.860 And the boy says, I don't know.

00:09:38.780 Which is the most apt response he could have possibly come up with.

00:09:42.860 But here's the most revealing part of the segment.

00:09:46.220 She attempts to compare abortion to a more legitimate kind of medical procedure, and this is what she says.

00:09:56.000 She says, it was—it was like a crappy dentist appointment or something.

00:09:59.840 It was just like, ah, this is like a body thing that's kind of uncomfortable.

00:10:04.380 But then it was over, and I felt like really just grateful that I wasn't pregnant anymore.

00:10:08.440 Let's leave aside the fact that this video features an adult talking to children, yet somehow the latter group is by far the most eloquent and well-spoken.

00:10:20.320 We'll leave that aside.

00:10:22.140 The interesting thing is that she wants the kids and the rest of society to see abortion as nothing more than a crappy dentist appointment, is how she puts it. 1.00

00:10:34.340 Yet, you'll notice something.

00:10:36.560 And she created a shout-your-abortion campaign. 0.98

00:10:39.940 She did not create a shout-your-dental procedure campaign.

00:10:45.160 And I don't know this for a fact, but I'm guessing that she's never filmed herself explaining root canals to 12-year-olds.

00:10:53.340 So abortion is like a dentist appointment, she claims, but she only goes around frantically trying to justify abortions and not dentist appointments.

00:11:03.000 Why is that?

00:11:03.640 Well, I think the simplest explanation is probably the right one here.

00:11:08.920 Feminists brag about their abortions and not their dental procedures because abortion is, and they know it, nothing at all like a dental procedure. 1.00

00:11:19.780 For all their rhetoric, for all the euphemistic language, the papering over, the obfuscation, they know deep down that abortion is different.

00:11:35.120 It is a different kind of thing.

00:11:36.760 Abortion is serious.

00:11:38.080 It is violent.

00:11:38.780 It's dirty.

00:11:39.580 It's shameful.

00:11:40.600 They all know this.

00:11:42.860 It doesn't really need to be explained to them.

00:11:46.700 That's why they're constantly trying to explain the opposite, because they know the truth.

00:11:51.280 And when they go around shouting their abortion to us or to kids, they're really shouting their abortions to themselves.

00:12:00.920 That's the point of the Shout Your Abortion movement. 0.89

00:12:03.700 So, if you were to watch this video, you could, in your mind, replace those children with mirrors, and I think you'd get a better idea of the psychology that's at play here.

00:12:17.080 So, these, you know, she is talking to herself, and these kids are just props.

00:12:25.320 They're sounding boards, and they're meant to sit there silently so that this woman can bounce her own thoughts back to herself.

00:12:35.260 And that's why you'll find that pro-abortion leftists, they like to use kids for these kinds of things.

00:12:42.660 Number one, because kids are malleable, and they're trying to brainwash them. 0.84

00:12:46.020 But also because kids generally are just going to sit there and listen to whatever you're saying and accept it.

00:12:53.960 And they don't want to be challenged. That's what they want.

00:12:56.320 They just want a silent human to sit there and listen to them talk to themselves.

00:13:04.220 But, as she's trying to convince herself, you notice that she's not convincing herself.

00:13:12.240 She isn't fooling herself.

00:13:13.280 And she isn't fooling us.

00:13:15.200 And she's barely even fooling the kids. 0.99

00:13:17.140 That's how pathetic this all really is. 0.92

00:13:20.020 So, it's, I think there's a generally reliable rule here, okay? 0.88

00:13:24.680 The rule is that if you are offering unsolicited justifications for a personal choice

00:13:31.560 to people who did not ask for those justifications, that means that you are very far from comfortable with that choice.

00:13:41.260 If you're going around explaining to everyone why you did a certain thing,

00:13:46.900 that means that you feel guilty or uncomfortable with having done that thing.

00:13:52.260 I mean, think about it in your own life.

00:13:56.620 Even if you've never gotten an abortion, hopefully.

00:14:00.880 Anytime that you've done something or made a choice and then you feel the need to bring it up to people

00:14:06.980 and kind of like work, talk through your own reasoning for doing the thing,

00:14:12.900 anytime you've done this, because you know you're not actually comfortable with the choice that you made.

00:14:19.160 And you're talking to yourself and you're also hoping that they will agree with you

00:14:24.000 to make you feel, to reinforce you and your rationalizations.

00:14:30.740 This is why, by the way, this is why feminists are always going around explaining, 1.00

00:14:37.800 justifying their abortions, but you don't find parents going around justifying their decision to have kids.

00:14:44.760 Have you noticed that?

00:14:46.540 Now, parents will talk about parenting.

00:14:49.240 Parents will complain about parenting, or they might proclaim the joys of parenting,

00:14:55.740 but they aren't going to constantly defend the fact that they had kids in the first place.

00:15:01.720 And that's because they know it was the right choice.

00:15:05.720 They don't need to convince themselves.

00:15:08.220 They don't need to convince you.

00:15:10.620 And even when parenting is a challenge, it still kind of fits.

00:15:15.580 It makes sense.

00:15:16.620 It is a completion.

00:15:24.960 It brings wholeness to their life.

00:15:29.280 And so that makes the rightness of their decision to have kids,

00:15:33.800 that makes it self-evident, so they don't need to explain it.

00:15:39.000 Except in very rare cases, parents don't live in regret because of having kids.

00:15:45.520 And thus, they don't feel the need to justify the fact that they have kids to anyone.

00:15:51.860 Now, the opposite is true of abortion.

00:15:55.840 And that, by the way, I think is one of the central truths about abortion that needs to be communicated to women,

00:16:03.160 that abortion is, like suicide, a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

00:16:09.120 So a woman who decides to have an abortion or a woman who's pregnant, she might feel overwhelmed, scared, anxiety-ridden about having a child.

00:16:23.400 She might feel like it's going to interfere with her life. 0.98

00:16:26.100 But the chances are very high that when she actually has the child, she will very, very quickly start to feel differently about the situation.

00:16:37.280 It's still going to be challenging to be a parent.

00:16:39.480 There's no question about that.

00:16:40.660 But very quickly, she'll find that whereas before she was unable to imagine life with a child,

00:16:49.080 now she's unable to imagine life without her child.

00:16:55.220 And here's the thing about it.

00:16:57.600 If a woman decides to have a child, and it is one of those rare cases where she finds that it's not working, 0.98

00:17:10.800 she finds that she really can't care for the child, or whatever the case may be,

00:17:16.080 then there's always adoption.

00:17:18.360 That option is still available.

00:17:20.200 But if you choose death, if you choose abortion, if you choose death,

00:17:26.140 then you're stuck with that choice forever, no matter the regret that you might feel afterwards.

00:17:33.520 That is a permanent choice.

00:17:35.500 It is a choice that cannot be undone.

00:17:39.720 It's a choice that offers no additional roads.

00:17:44.140 It's a dead end.

00:17:45.460 It's a literal dead end.

00:17:47.100 You make that choice, and then that's it.

00:17:50.200 Whereas if you choose life, then there are many different choices that spring from that choice.

00:17:59.220 As a parent, you can go in many different directions.

00:18:02.380 You can raise your child in many different ways.

00:18:05.260 You can make many different kinds of choices for your family.

00:18:09.480 Or there are some parents who do end up putting their kids up for adoption.

00:18:13.140 So that also is a choice that you can make.

00:18:15.300 So all these choices are still there.

00:18:17.120 There is this whole tree of choices, all these different branches sprouting.

00:18:22.960 Whereas with abortion, it is just, you chop the tree down and you burn it, and that's it. 0.72

00:18:27.600 And that's why abortion leaves you feeling incomplete, empty, disjointed.

00:18:35.620 It just doesn't feel right.

00:18:38.620 It becomes this thing that you constantly need to explain to yourself.

00:18:42.660 Which is why when you're listening to one of these abortion advocates,

00:18:51.260 you could really remove all the exclamation points from their declarative sentences

00:18:58.200 and replace them with question marks.

00:19:00.760 And I think then you get a better idea.

00:19:02.280 So when this woman or someone else is shouting,

00:19:06.900 abortion is good, abortion is right, I'm happy about my abortion. 0.98

00:19:11.840 What they really mean is, abortion is good? 0.76

00:19:15.720 Abortion is right? 0.96

00:19:17.760 I'm happy about my abortion?

00:19:21.060 And then they reassure themselves, yes, yes, yes, of course I'm happy.

00:19:24.640 But they don't believe their own answer.

00:19:27.900 So they just shout even louder, hoping to drown out that thought in the back of their head,

00:19:34.380 that thought that tells them that this is all a lie,

00:19:37.460 and they've done something terrible and permanent, and they can't undo it.

00:19:43.480 That's the reality.

00:19:45.400 That's why these Shout Your Abortion campaigns exist. 1.00

00:19:48.500 All right, one other thing I wanted to talk about briefly,

00:19:53.120 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:19:56.420 Let's talk about her for a minute.

00:19:58.440 Unfortunately, a video of the new congresswoman went viral yesterday online,

00:20:04.100 and it appears that the video was first found and posted by a right-wing account on Twitter

00:20:09.880 in an effort to mock Cortez.

00:20:13.080 But the mocking attempt backfires big time

00:20:15.620 because all the video shows is Cortez apparently in college or maybe high school

00:20:24.240 dancing on a rooftop with some of her friends.

00:20:27.960 And she's not a bad dancer, and it seems like she's having a good time.

00:20:31.920 It's kind of a fun, silly video that she made when she was a teenager. 0.88

00:20:35.960 The kind of video that only an absolute maniac would get angry about. 0.74

00:20:40.320 And the video makes her seem more relatable, more likable.

00:20:45.700 It's the kind of thing that you'd expect her camp to find and post, 0.98

00:20:50.540 not her enemies.

00:20:52.500 And maybe her camp did put it out there, 1.00

00:20:54.740 hoping to bait a few idiot right-wingers, 1.00

00:20:58.080 and they were successful in doing it. 1.00

00:21:02.840 I don't know.

00:21:04.220 But I emphasize a few here because I saw,

00:21:10.180 in addition to the account that posted the video originally,

00:21:13.200 I only saw a few conservatives on social media trying to attack Cortez over the footage.

00:21:18.400 The vast majority of people on the left and right were defending her.

00:21:23.020 They were saying the video is fine.

00:21:24.520 It's a fun video, whatever.

00:21:26.460 So it's not true, as the media is reporting today,

00:21:29.260 that conservatives in general were angry about her dancing or mocking her for it.

00:21:34.340 A few were, just a few, from what I can tell.

00:21:37.340 Only a few.

00:21:39.100 However, it is true that conservatives in general, not all, but many,

00:21:45.640 have been, maybe not with this video,

00:21:47.960 but they have been rather obsessed with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over the past year or so.

00:21:53.880 So they have jumped on many opportunities to mock her.

00:21:58.280 They have been fixated on her.

00:22:02.020 They've been talking about her even more often than liberals do.

00:22:05.500 And I've made this point before, 0.98

00:22:07.160 because foolish people on either side of the aisle, 0.97

00:22:10.260 they tend to make stars out of people on the opposing side. 0.99

00:22:16.080 So liberals made a star out of Donald Trump by their obsession with him.

00:22:20.880 If the media and liberals in general weren't so obsessed with Donald Trump

00:22:25.200 during the campaign, especially during the primary,

00:22:27.920 then Donald Trump probably would not be president today.

00:22:31.160 But right-wingers can tend to do the same kind of thing.

00:22:35.720 They were obsessed with David Hogg, and now they're obsessed with Cortez.

00:22:39.500 And in that obsession, they helped both of those people to achieve levels of fame

00:22:45.300 and notoriety that they otherwise would not have achieved, especially with Cortez.

00:22:52.600 Now, I know you might say,

00:22:54.400 well, but she's a socialist, and she's dangerous. 1.00

00:22:57.300 She's in a position of power now, so we have to engage with her ideas.

00:23:01.380 We can't ignore her.

00:23:03.220 Well, okay, but two things here.

00:23:05.120 Number one, she's one of 435 members of the House of Representatives. 1.00

00:23:11.120 She has very, very little actual individual power. 0.73

00:23:16.540 And whatever power she has in her own district, 0.99

00:23:19.660 well, it's a liberal district.

00:23:21.000 It would have been a Democrat there anyway. 0.98

00:23:24.000 She doesn't have any more actual, legal, real power 1.00

00:23:29.240 than any of the other 435.

00:23:33.120 And none of them individually have much power at all.

00:23:36.840 The power that she has is in her popularity, 0.71

00:23:40.620 in her fame, in her influence on the culture.

00:23:45.540 But you only increase that power by increasing her popularity and fame 0.94

00:23:50.880 when you talk about her.

00:23:53.060 So the best thing that the right could have done with this woman 1.00

00:23:56.000 from the very beginning is just ignore her.

00:24:01.140 Number two, yeah, we should engage socialist ideas.

00:24:05.860 We need to be able to do that.

00:24:07.880 But let's be honest about this.

00:24:10.640 Conservatives haven't really been engaging her ideas, per se.

00:24:14.900 Some of them have.

00:24:15.980 But for the most part, that's not what's happening here.

00:24:19.240 We have just been relentlessly mocking her as a person.

00:24:22.640 And I've done it, too, on occasion, not nearly as often as a lot of other people.

00:24:27.340 But, I mean, she didn't know the branches of government.

00:24:30.960 How can you not mock that?

00:24:33.340 It's impossible not to.

00:24:35.160 But when I mocked that thing, I knew that I was just preaching to the choir.

00:24:40.140 I wasn't doing anything fruitful or helpful, really.

00:24:42.740 I was just laughing because it was funny and I couldn't help myself.

00:24:46.600 Generally, though, the personal mockery of this woman is not an effective strategy. 0.94

00:24:51.660 As I said, yeah, when someone doesn't know the branches of government and they're in the government,

00:24:57.460 I mean, you have to make fun of that.

00:24:59.300 What else are you going to do?

00:25:01.860 But in general, this obsession just, it has not worked out for Republicans, for the right.

00:25:09.940 It obviously has not worked to decrease her popularity.

00:25:14.180 It has done the opposite.

00:25:16.700 Why is that?

00:25:17.700 Well, I think because, well, for one thing, people on the other side are just going to coalesce even more around their guy or their girl

00:25:27.360 when they perceive that unfair personal attacks are being launched at them.

00:25:31.220 But more to the point here, like it or not, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is likable.

00:25:37.700 Now, you might not like her.

00:25:41.140 You might disagree with her, which, by the way, those two things don't need to go hand in hand,

00:25:46.900 not liking her and disagreeing with her.

00:25:49.800 And I disagree with her, certainly.

00:25:54.220 But she is likable, objectively speaking.

00:25:57.720 She just is.

00:25:59.260 She comes across like a relatively normal 25-year-old woman or 29-year-old woman who is really super stoked to be in Congress.

00:26:08.860 And it all seems pretty genuine and pretty human.

00:26:12.140 And people are attracted to that.

00:26:14.140 They are.

00:26:14.860 So when you're dealing with an opponent who is likable, you can't go scorched earth against them.

00:26:23.000 Because if you come off like a bully or like a jealous nerd,

00:26:26.860 which is how I think Republicans often come off when it comes to this woman. 0.98

00:26:31.840 Not even like bullies, but even worse than that.

00:26:34.020 They come off like they're like jealous nerds in high school.

00:26:38.780 And when you do that, you're only going to make them more likable.

00:26:42.660 So even putting the ethics and the morality of it aside, political strategy-wise,

00:26:49.780 heaping mockery and scorn on a likable person is bad strategy.

00:26:54.720 It's very bad.

00:26:56.400 You make them more likable and yourself less when you do that.

00:27:03.980 This is a lesson that Donald Trump needs to learn before 2020.

00:27:08.560 Because he's had enormous success going scorched earth against opponents who were already fairly

00:27:15.080 unlikable or extremely unlikable.

00:27:17.640 Clinton, obviously, is a prime example. 0.96

00:27:20.040 Clinton is a very unlikable person.

00:27:22.340 So it really didn't matter what Donald Trump said about her.

00:27:25.260 He could say whatever he wanted.

00:27:26.440 And even in the primaries, I mean, Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Kasich,

00:27:32.880 these guys are not what you would call extremely relatable or likable politicians.

00:27:39.240 I supported Cruz.

00:27:40.220 I still do.

00:27:40.840 But you're fooling yourself if you call him likable.

00:27:44.560 He's not a likable guy.

00:27:46.220 Um, so Trump just ripped them to pieces and it worked because he was kind of highlighting

00:27:55.520 the unlikable aspects of their personality.

00:27:58.360 That's part of the, the nicknames and stuff that he does.

00:28:02.300 That's one of the reasons why that was effective is because he's, he's homing in on the most

00:28:08.040 unlikable parts of them and highlighting.

00:28:12.260 And that's, and that's the point.

00:28:13.320 But if he faces someone like, like, um, O'Rourke in 2020, a guy who, however you feel about

00:28:21.880 him is certainly likable.

00:28:24.080 And if he tries to treat Beto, like he treated Clinton or Cruz, it will absolutely backfire.

00:28:31.320 Look at what Republicans did in the campaign against, um, you know, on the campaign in Texas,

00:28:36.340 the one that Beto almost won.

00:28:39.020 They posted pictures, what Republicans are.

00:28:41.500 They, they posted pictures of, of, of, um, of O'Rourke from his punk rock days in the

00:28:48.240 nineties and they mocked him for it.

00:28:50.060 And then what happened?

00:28:51.020 It backfired because the pictures just made him look cooler and more likable.

00:28:56.300 People looked at that and said, they said, oh, he was in a band.

00:28:58.640 Awesome.

00:28:59.920 That's the thing.

00:29:00.720 Normal people think that bands are cool.

00:29:03.380 It's, it's cool.

00:29:03.960 If you were in a band when you were, uh, when you were younger, that that's how normal people

00:29:08.080 react to that. 0.98

00:29:08.820 A normal person isn't going to say, oh, you were in a band when you were younger, dork. 0.98

00:29:14.520 That's no, that's, that's not what normal people do. 0.97

00:29:16.820 Normal people think, oh, that's cool.

00:29:19.180 I mean, I'd like to get a beer with that guy and talk about his experience in a punk rock

00:29:22.780 band.

00:29:23.100 He probably has some stories to tell.

00:29:24.640 It's probably pretty interesting.

00:29:25.780 That's what normal people think.

00:29:27.920 So again, it only makes him more likable and you less.

00:29:31.840 The same thing happens on the other side.

00:29:34.820 Um, the new Congressman, Dan Crenshaw, very likable guy.

00:29:40.100 And that's why, think about this SNL, they make, they mock Republicans all the time, uh,

00:29:46.600 in ways that are just vicious.

00:29:49.600 I mean, think about all the, the mocking of Donald Trump, Alec Baldwin's, uh, caricature

00:29:55.700 of Trump is, is mean and mean spirited and vicious.

00:30:00.080 And they do that to Republicans all the time. 0.92

00:30:01.840 Yet they mocked Crenshaw, just one kind of throwaway line.

00:30:05.840 And the next week they had to have him on.

00:30:07.660 They had to have him on the show to apologize to him in person.

00:30:11.720 And why is that?

00:30:14.120 Well, of course he's a veteran and they were, and the joke that they made was horrible.

00:30:18.780 So that obviously is part of it, but also the guy is likable and relatable.

00:30:25.320 So people just like him.

00:30:26.840 He seems like a decent guy.

00:30:30.160 And so when you make fun of him, people say, well, what are you doing?

00:30:33.100 Back off.

00:30:34.380 What did that guy ever do to you?

00:30:37.140 Nikki Haley, I think is another one.

00:30:38.900 That's also in this camp, a naturally likable politician.

00:30:42.460 You know who else I would put in this category that may surprise you?

00:30:46.260 Mike Pence.

00:30:48.480 Now, Pence is likable in a different kind of way.

00:30:52.040 I'm not sure if he comes off as relatable necessarily, and he definitely doesn't come

00:30:55.620 off as cool, but he does come off, he seems like a decent, friendly, Mr. Rogers kind of

00:31:03.660 guy.

00:31:04.460 And I mean that with no disrespect to Mr. Rogers, who was a decent, friendly, good guy, right?

00:31:11.360 And now whether or not he actually is those things, I don't know.

00:31:14.580 I don't know him personally, but that's how he comes across.

00:31:17.480 That's how it seems. 0.89

00:31:19.340 And so leftists, they've made fools of themselves over the last few years when they're constantly 0.94

00:31:23.840 mocking Mike Pence. 1.00

00:31:25.640 They come off looking like lunatics and jerks. 1.00

00:31:29.240 And he comes off looking like a decent guy who isn't going to get down in the mud with 1.00

00:31:33.000 the pigs. 0.97

00:31:34.520 Think about it. 0.99

00:31:35.180 The left has taken how many shots at Mike Pence over the last two years, two, three years,

00:31:39.840 and how many of those shots have landed?

00:31:42.100 How many of them have failed to backfire?

00:31:45.760 That's because he seems decent, likable.

00:31:49.560 Maybe decent in his case is a better word than likable, but whatever.

00:31:53.500 Either way, mockery is not effective against likable and or decent seeming opponents.

00:32:01.520 Now, of course, there aren't very many of those types in politics today, and most are so viscerally

00:32:10.880 unlikable that it's comical, like Warren.

00:32:14.240 You can make fun of Elizabeth Warren all you want because she just, like Clinton, you listen

00:32:22.640 to her talk for five seconds and you don't like her. 0.60

00:32:25.800 It doesn't matter.

00:32:26.200 Politics aside, you just don't like her. 0.89

00:32:27.780 That's how she comes across.

00:32:28.640 Now, we could have a different conversation someday about why it is that those types of

00:32:35.860 people seem to always win campaigns, but that's how it is.

00:32:41.780 And if you're facing somebody, if you're dealing with someone like that, Elizabeth Warren with

00:32:45.380 her beer drinking video, yeah, make fun of that all day. 1.00

00:32:48.380 It's hilarious.

00:32:49.620 She's unlikable. 0.53

00:32:50.680 It's an unlikable thing that she did. 0.91

00:32:52.320 It's cynical and just weird and disingenuous and fine.

00:32:59.100 Heap mockery on that. 0.65

00:33:00.660 That's what it deserves.

00:33:03.220 But somebody like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, it's just not working.

00:33:08.720 So I think if you're an opponent of hers, if you don't like her, best strategy is mostly

00:33:16.140 to ignore her and let her do her thing.

00:33:20.040 And when she comes out with a proposal or with ideas or with legislation or whatever that's

00:33:24.840 bad, then you engage with the legislation, you engage with the ideas, and you have that

00:33:31.140 argument on an intellectual level.

00:33:35.540 That's the best way to engage with people in general.

00:33:38.520 But strategy-wise, it's really the only way to engage with likable people.

00:33:45.480 All right.

00:33:47.920 We'll leave it there.

00:33:48.780 Thanks, everybody, for watching.

00:33:50.300 Have a great weekend.

00:33:52.120 I'll talk to you next week.

00:33:53.340 Godspeed.

00:33:53.680 Godspeed.

00:34:01.140 Coming up on The Ben Shapiro Show, Nancy Pelosi is sworn in as Speaker of the House.

00:34:06.540 The far left makes its policy pitch, and the shutdown continues.

00:34:09.600 That's coming up on The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Matt Walsh Show - January 04, 2019

Ep. 169 - Feminist Brags About Her Abortion To Children

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