The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1690 - Why We Need 50 Million Deportations Instead Of 50 Year Mortgages, AI Music Tops The Charts, And More

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00:00:46.400 People can't buy homes.

00:00:47.800 They're not able to live in homes.

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00:00:50.160 The conservative movement has to seriously address these kinds of problems.

00:00:54.980 The entire movement will be left in the dust.

00:00:57.100 If we don't work on ways to actually improve Americans' lives and address the real challenges

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00:03:08.660 Even if your name isn't Joe Biden, it's still very easy to forget pretty much everything

00:03:13.740 the Biden administration attempted to do during their four years in office.

00:03:17.780 It's one of those administrations that everybody, regardless of party affiliation,

00:03:20.860 wants to wipe from memory as soon as possible.

00:03:22.800 Biden was obviously a historic failure.

00:03:25.660 Whose only legacy, if you can even call it that, is employing operatives who hunted down

00:03:30.480 and jailed the political opponents of the Democrat Party.

00:03:33.040 But especially if you're a young person right now, and you're trying to buy your first home

00:03:38.200 and take part in a foundational component of the American dream,

00:03:42.080 it's important to take a step back and consider very carefully what the Biden administration

00:03:47.020 attempted to do.

00:03:47.660 At every turn, the Biden White House took pains to make homeownership more challenging

00:03:53.780 and more expensive for American citizens.

00:03:56.160 In retrospect, you could make the case that this was, in fact, the primary goal of the

00:04:00.860 Biden administration.

00:04:01.820 Every major policy proposal, every executive action, regardless of how it was advertised,

00:04:07.400 was in reality geared towards raising the cost of homeownership, among other things.

00:04:12.440 You know, it's not an academic exercise to make this point now, even though the Biden administration

00:04:16.700 is out of power.

00:04:17.500 It's actually extremely important because, first of all, we have to reverse what the

00:04:22.200 Biden administration did.

00:04:23.240 And secondly, when conservatives are crafting their own rules to make it easier to own a home,

00:04:28.180 they can't emulate the Biden administration's proposals in any way.

00:04:33.460 But at the moment, that appears to be what's happening.

00:04:37.440 The Trump administration is going down the same road as the Biden administration,

00:04:42.320 whether they realize it or not.

00:04:44.080 And they need to reverse course immediately unless we want to see everyone under the age

00:04:48.100 of 40 vote for Democrats in next year's midterms.

00:04:52.640 So we'll start with this headline from the Biden era, which sounds like it can't possibly be real,

00:04:57.980 but it is.

00:04:59.400 This is a direct quote from ABC News.

00:05:01.060 Quote, why having good credit could cost you more on a home mortgage.

00:05:06.420 In some cases, people with better credit scores may pay more in fees,

00:05:09.960 while those with lower credit scores will pay less.

00:05:12.940 The Biden administration's stated purpose behind making these changes

00:05:16.260 is to help make it easier for borrowers who have historically been disadvantaged

00:05:20.120 and have a hard time accessing credits.

00:05:24.000 Now, in practical terms, the proposal would penalize anybody with a credit score above 680

00:05:29.600 with an additional fee of roughly $40 a month.

00:05:33.780 So you get penalized for having better credit.

00:05:36.660 That's the idea.

00:05:37.940 And if you put down a large down payment between 15 and 20 percent,

00:05:41.640 then you pay an even larger fee.

00:05:44.560 And the goal, according to the government, was to redistribute funds to reduce the interest rates

00:05:48.760 paid by less qualified buyers.

00:05:51.980 Now, at the time, the story was covered as an effort by the Biden administration to buy votes,

00:05:55.980 which it clearly was.

00:05:57.860 But the other effect of this proposal, of course, was to make it more difficult for Americans to buy homes.

00:06:04.180 This is a zero-sum proposal we're talking about.

00:06:06.700 People were being punished for doing the right thing and saving up and, you know,

00:06:13.740 being financially disciplined to buy a home.

00:06:17.420 They were being punished for that in the form of additional fees.

00:06:21.040 They deliberately made housing more difficult to obtain.

00:06:24.940 And they made it more difficult to obtain precisely for the people who should be obtaining it,

00:06:30.980 for those who are financially responsible, have good credit, have saved some money.

00:06:36.440 So precisely for that group.

00:06:39.540 And indeed, this was nothing new for the Democrats.

00:06:41.920 The Obama administration famously filed lawsuits against various suburbs,

00:06:45.400 including Westchester, New York, for failing to construct low-income,

00:06:48.460 high-density housing complexes inside their suburbs.

00:06:50.900 They wanted to tear down suburban homes and replace them with apartments, essentially.

00:06:56.000 And they went to court to do it.

00:06:58.820 Now, coincidentally enough, all of these policies, and many more like them,

00:07:02.600 coincidentally, were very beneficial for America's rapidly growing population of illegal aliens.

00:07:09.540 If you live in a suburb that's suddenly been overtaken by rapid demographic change,

00:07:13.640 then you know exactly what I'm talking about.

00:07:15.840 At precisely the same time that Americans are struggling more than ever to own their own homes,

00:07:19.840 it's never been easier for illegal aliens to buy property without putting anything down.

00:07:26.800 The solution is not to double down on these Biden-era proposals

00:07:33.220 and make it even easier to put people inside houses that they can't actually afford.

00:07:39.620 Democrats pushed those policies because they needed a place to put all their new voters,

00:07:43.780 and in doing so, they raised prices for everybody else.

00:07:46.480 But Republicans have no reason to emulate that strategy.

00:07:50.920 We elected them to make housing more affordable for Americans,

00:07:55.700 to make life more affordable for Americans.

00:07:59.100 As we briefly discussed the other day, the Trump administration,

00:08:02.060 his current policy proposal is not going to succeed in accomplishing that objective,

00:08:07.820 to put it mildly.

00:08:08.720 Instead, in an interview with Fox's Laura Ingram,

00:08:12.720 the president seemed extremely cavalier about the introduction of the new 50-year mortgages idea,

00:08:19.780 which would be a catastrophically bad idea in about a million different ways.

00:08:25.640 According to Politico, what happened is that the federal housing director, Bill Pulte,

00:08:30.280 who also serves as the chair of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,

00:08:32.640 showed up at Palm Beach Golf Club with a three-by-five poster board in his hands.

00:08:38.560 And the poster board, as you can see here,

00:08:40.760 showed a graphic of former President Franklin Roosevelt

00:08:44.780 below the words, 30-year mortgage,

00:08:47.920 along with a picture of Trump below the words, 50-year mortgage.

00:08:51.420 And the headline on the poster board was,

00:08:53.760 Great American Presidents.

00:08:55.800 And then 10 minutes later, as the story goes,

00:08:59.620 Trump posted that image on Truth Social.

00:09:01.640 So, that's how you lobby the president, apparently.

00:09:06.080 Make sure you have poster board.

00:09:08.020 But in speaking to Laura Ingram,

00:09:09.640 it didn't appear that the president fully understood the implications of this proposal.

00:09:13.100 He also seemed to be under the impression that people are currently getting 40-year mortgages,

00:09:17.320 which obviously is not true.

00:09:20.340 Watch this.

00:09:22.320 Housing costs are still out of reach.

00:09:24.400 And another thing that your administration is trying to tackle,

00:09:27.460 many Americans,

00:09:28.460 the average age of first-time homebuyers are now up to age 40,

00:09:32.280 which is sad.

00:09:33.620 The country you and I grew up in.

00:09:34.680 But I inherited that.

00:09:35.440 Look, you have to understand.

00:09:36.600 Right, but let me get to the question, though,

00:09:38.320 because your housing director has proposed something that has enraged your MAGA friends,

00:09:43.720 which is this 50-year mortgage idea.

00:09:46.400 So, a significant MAGA backlash,

00:09:48.460 calling it a giveaway to the banks and simply prolonging the time it would take for Americans

00:09:54.100 to own a home outright.

00:09:56.120 Is that really a good idea?

00:09:58.060 It's not even a big deal.

00:10:00.060 I mean, you know, you go from 40 to 50 years,

00:10:02.920 and what it means is you pay something less.

00:10:05.900 From 30, some people had a 40, and then now they have a 50.

00:10:09.380 All it means is you pay less per month.

00:10:10.960 You pay it over a longer period of time.

00:10:12.760 It's not like a big factor.

00:10:14.820 It might help a little bit.

00:10:16.480 But the problem was that Biden did this.

00:10:18.560 He increased the interest rates,

00:10:20.040 and I have a lousy Fed person who's going to be gone in a few months.

00:10:23.580 Now, this is one of those clips that,

00:10:25.160 even if you're mostly a very strong supporter of what this administration is doing,

00:10:29.460 as I am, I think they've done a lot of great stuff,

00:10:31.940 you simply cannot allow this to stand,

00:10:35.500 because it's a horrible idea,

00:10:38.380 and it will hurt the country.

00:10:40.560 Not to mention it will hurt Trump politically,

00:10:44.160 which is a secondary concern.

00:10:46.640 But, of course, the political concerns are also real concerns.

00:10:49.440 And as we'll see in a second,

00:10:50.520 there was at least one more clip from this interview along these lines

00:10:53.620 that is very problematic, which we'll talk about.

00:10:57.800 This was a very strange interview,

00:10:59.420 and nobody on the right voted for any of this stuff.

00:11:04.480 But before we address that,

00:11:05.660 let's talk about the reality of a 50-year mortgage,

00:11:07.840 because contrary to what you just heard,

00:11:09.160 it is indeed a very big deal,

00:11:10.500 and it's also a very, very bad deal.

00:11:12.780 If you take out a $400,000 mortgage,

00:11:16.080 and you choose a 50-year,

00:11:18.340 and you go with the 50-year option,

00:11:20.260 the difference in your monthly payment

00:11:23.440 is probably going to be around $150 a month.

00:11:27.480 Okay, that's it.

00:11:28.000 That is the, quote, savings that you're getting,

00:11:30.840 $150 a month.

00:11:31.780 Well, which, $150 a month,

00:11:35.800 if you can take, you know,

00:11:37.420 you might think, well, better to save $150 a month

00:11:39.760 than not save it.

00:11:40.920 No, that's real money.

00:11:44.040 Okay, fine.

00:11:44.880 But the problem is that over the extra 20 years,

00:11:48.020 you're going to spend roughly $500,000,

00:11:51.280 yes, half a million dollars,

00:11:52.400 in extra interest payments.

00:11:55.680 That's the extra part of it.

00:11:58.420 You're going to spend two decades

00:12:01.400 doing nothing but paying off the bank.

00:12:04.740 And if you don't make it that far,

00:12:06.420 which you probably won't,

00:12:08.180 then the bank gets your house.

00:12:11.680 Now, keep in mind, as we just heard,

00:12:13.140 average age of a first-time home buyer is 40,

00:12:15.260 40 years old.

00:12:16.640 50-year mortgage,

00:12:18.380 well, if you don't make it to 90,

00:12:21.260 then you're never going to own your home.

00:12:24.140 Miss a couple of payments,

00:12:25.520 and everything is gone.

00:12:27.680 All of that to save $150 a month.

00:12:30.240 And if you want to sell your home at any point,

00:12:31.880 the 50-year mortgage is going to cause

00:12:33.700 a lot of problems there as well.

00:12:35.480 After 10 years of making payments,

00:12:37.720 you'll have less than $20,000 in equity in your home.

00:12:42.680 So just say that again, in case you missed it.

00:12:44.380 After 10 years of making every payment,

00:12:47.580 you will have less than $20,000 in equity.

00:12:52.820 You might even be underwater on the loan.

00:12:55.020 Meanwhile, with a normal 30-year mortgage,

00:12:56.780 you'd have nearly $60,000 in equity.

00:12:59.660 So these are massive, massive differences

00:13:01.380 for a very small monthly savings,

00:13:03.680 which is not really a savings

00:13:05.140 because you're spending more.

00:13:06.720 Ultimately, it's more expensive.

00:13:09.120 You're basically renting the property

00:13:10.860 instead of owning it.

00:13:11.680 So why are we hearing something like this

00:13:15.120 from the Trump administration?

00:13:16.120 It's indistinguishable from a proposal

00:13:17.620 that the Biden administration might suggest

00:13:19.600 as a way of getting more illegal aliens

00:13:22.080 into more homes.

00:13:24.180 What we should be hearing from the president

00:13:25.860 is very different.

00:13:26.460 He should acknowledge that

00:13:27.680 any American adult

00:13:29.480 who works a full-time job

00:13:32.180 and fulfills their basic adult responsibilities

00:13:34.660 should be able to own a home.

00:13:38.220 Now, it's not that anyone has a, quote,

00:13:40.720 right to homeownership per se.

00:13:43.200 Homeownership, unlike, say, free speech rights,

00:13:45.200 is a thing you have to work to achieve.

00:13:48.280 Okay?

00:13:48.580 So no sane person thinks

00:13:50.460 that we should just, like,

00:13:51.580 give out housing to everybody

00:13:52.940 regardless of, yeah, here you go,

00:13:54.280 you all get houses.

00:13:56.300 There are plenty of people

00:13:57.660 who've made proposals like that

00:13:58.680 and they're insane.

00:14:00.320 So that's not what we're talking about.

00:14:02.680 But you should be able to achieve that.

00:14:06.080 Homeownership should be achievable

00:14:07.880 for most competent working adults

00:14:10.580 in a healthy and thriving country.

00:14:14.920 And it used to be in this country.

00:14:18.620 And if our country is failing

00:14:20.100 to provide that opportunity,

00:14:21.340 then the solution is not to turn

00:14:24.040 more Americans into de facto renters.

00:14:26.700 It's not to make them, you know,

00:14:28.060 more Americans into, you know,

00:14:31.460 vassals of the banking system.

00:14:36.100 A much better idea,

00:14:37.340 one that will actually lower

00:14:38.140 the prices of home,

00:14:39.440 prices of homes,

00:14:40.320 is to, as we talked about

00:14:41.220 a couple days ago,

00:14:42.640 deport all of the tens of millions

00:14:45.120 of foreigners who are here illegally

00:14:46.980 and taking up housing

00:14:48.820 that should go to Americans.

00:14:50.660 A lot of housing.

00:14:53.120 Give America back to Americans.

00:14:55.320 You know, how about 50 million

00:14:57.920 deportations instead of 50-year

00:14:59.780 mortgages?

00:15:00.400 Better yet, how about a 50-year

00:15:01.460 immigration moratorium?

00:15:03.460 How about we hear a single sentence,

00:15:04.960 just one single sentence

00:15:05.860 from this administration

00:15:08.020 about the fact that,

00:15:09.600 as we so often talk about

00:15:10.940 on this show,

00:15:11.860 Somalis are now so entrenched

00:15:13.200 in this country that they're

00:15:14.400 playing out tribal feuds

00:15:15.880 in municipal elections.

00:15:17.120 I mean, what do you think

00:15:19.520 100,000 Somalis have done

00:15:21.080 for the housing prices

00:15:21.940 in Minneapolis?

00:15:22.880 That's not a rhetorical question.

00:15:24.840 Like, someone needs to answer this.

00:15:27.720 But as far as I know,

00:15:28.640 nobody in the White House has.

00:15:31.340 So here's my best guess.

00:15:33.220 Okay, so we're just,

00:15:33.760 let's just use Minneapolis

00:15:34.940 as an example,

00:15:35.860 as a microcosm.

00:15:37.600 The problem's obviously

00:15:38.200 much bigger than this,

00:15:38.960 but let's just use Minneapolis, okay?

00:15:41.260 And just the Somali,

00:15:42.320 they've got a lot more immigrants

00:15:43.360 in Minneapolis than just the Somalis,

00:15:44.780 but let's just use this one example.

00:15:46.420 Minneapolis has 430,000 people.

00:15:48.760 Let's say 5% are Somali,

00:15:50.560 which is a lowball estimate.

00:15:52.800 And let's assume

00:15:54.260 that these 20,000 Somalis

00:15:56.140 occupy around 5,000 rental units

00:15:59.260 and 700 homes,

00:16:00.380 and the rest are homeless,

00:16:01.600 which, again,

00:16:02.160 is a very lowball estimate.

00:16:04.040 So just using these numbers

00:16:05.020 for the sake of argument here.

00:16:06.540 Getting rid of all the Somalis,

00:16:08.880 even given these

00:16:09.600 very generous assumptions,

00:16:11.700 would double the rental vacancy rate

00:16:13.880 in Minneapolis

00:16:14.560 from 7% to 15% city-wide.

00:16:17.540 Lease prices would plummet,

00:16:19.880 allowing young adults

00:16:20.760 to save a lot more money

00:16:21.960 much faster

00:16:22.540 to buy a home of their own.

00:16:24.340 Median rents

00:16:25.200 would drop like a rock.

00:16:26.520 And meanwhile,

00:16:26.980 for homeowners,

00:16:28.180 the median prices of a home

00:16:29.660 would drop

00:16:30.640 by around $30,000.

00:16:32.220 And this is just

00:16:33.360 from deporting

00:16:34.020 one group of third worlders

00:16:35.580 in one city.

00:16:38.500 And this is an actual,

00:16:40.140 tangible result

00:16:41.020 that the administration

00:16:42.600 could get to work on

00:16:43.900 right away.

00:16:45.460 They could end Somalia's

00:16:46.980 temporary protected status,

00:16:48.280 denaturalize and deport

00:16:49.300 as many as they can,

00:16:50.740 and then they could

00:16:51.220 get to work on

00:16:52.220 every other large population

00:16:53.960 of foreign nationals

00:16:54.920 in this country.

00:16:57.180 It's obviously worth a try

00:16:58.580 at a minimum,

00:16:59.420 but as far as I could tell,

00:17:01.540 this administration

00:17:02.020 hasn't done anything

00:17:03.720 on that front.

00:17:05.620 The president has joked

00:17:06.580 about deporting Ilhan Omar.

00:17:08.800 The administration

00:17:09.240 has gone out of its way

00:17:10.200 to limit

00:17:11.900 their immigration enforcement

00:17:12.880 to illegal aliens

00:17:14.040 who also have extensive

00:17:15.200 criminal records.

00:17:17.400 And which,

00:17:19.480 okay,

00:17:20.020 we should get

00:17:20.680 those illegal aliens

00:17:21.980 we should get out

00:17:22.600 of the country

00:17:22.980 if they have criminal records,

00:17:24.260 but also

00:17:24.820 all of the rest of them

00:17:26.940 we should get out

00:17:27.880 of the country too

00:17:28.560 because all of the rest

00:17:29.580 of them

00:17:29.960 don't belong here.

00:17:31.320 They're not Americans.

00:17:32.240 They're not citizens.

00:17:33.060 They committed a crime

00:17:33.800 by coming

00:17:34.340 and they're a drain

00:17:36.380 on the system

00:17:36.940 and they're taking,

00:17:37.660 and when it comes to housing,

00:17:38.780 they are taking up

00:17:39.920 housing,

00:17:41.480 like millions of units

00:17:43.020 of housing

00:17:43.900 that don't belong to them

00:17:46.900 and that should go

00:17:47.940 to Americans.

00:17:50.880 Now,

00:17:51.400 in the meantime,

00:17:52.460 the housing market

00:17:53.960 isn't just dire,

00:17:54.940 it's historically bad.

00:17:57.000 In 2000,

00:17:58.120 the median homebuyer

00:17:59.140 was around 40 years old.

00:18:01.880 Now he's 61 years old.

00:18:03.460 And the number

00:18:05.320 of first-time homebuyers

00:18:06.480 is now down

00:18:07.120 to 21%

00:18:08.060 of all home sales

00:18:09.120 when it was double

00:18:10.360 that number

00:18:10.820 back in 2005.

00:18:12.080 Private equity firms

00:18:13.120 and institutional

00:18:13.640 real estate investors

00:18:14.600 are buying something

00:18:15.580 like 33%

00:18:16.600 of all single-family homes

00:18:18.020 as of the second quarter

00:18:19.600 of this year.

00:18:20.880 That's the highest percentage

00:18:22.180 in the last five years.

00:18:23.420 And if you look at this data

00:18:24.120 from the National Association

00:18:25.340 for Realtors,

00:18:26.360 you'll see where the problem

00:18:27.760 for first-time homebuyers

00:18:30.900 began in earnest.

00:18:31.640 And as you can see,

00:18:32.780 the median age

00:18:34.000 of first-time homebuyers,

00:18:35.200 which is indicated

00:18:35.780 by the yellow line,

00:18:38.680 began spiking

00:18:40.200 very sharply in 2020.

00:18:41.760 And you probably remember

00:18:42.600 what was going on in 2020.

00:18:44.080 We had the COVID lockdowns,

00:18:45.340 massive government

00:18:46.040 stimulus spending

00:18:46.820 to keep the economy afloat.

00:18:48.460 The money was flowing

00:18:49.260 like a fire hose.

00:18:51.460 And there wasn't any

00:18:52.840 sober, rational analysis

00:18:54.640 going on.

00:18:55.520 They were just

00:18:55.880 pumping out the money.

00:18:57.440 People were getting

00:18:57.940 thousands of dollars

00:18:58.900 in the mail.

00:18:59.860 You may remember

00:19:00.440 back five years ago,

00:19:01.360 if you stood up

00:19:02.120 and said,

00:19:02.480 hey, I don't know

00:19:03.000 if we should be doing this.

00:19:04.960 You were shouted down

00:19:06.740 by, you know,

00:19:08.580 almost everyone.

00:19:10.180 And tens of thousands

00:19:11.680 of fraudulent businesses

00:19:13.100 were established

00:19:13.800 to collect on emergency loans.

00:19:15.360 And at the same time,

00:19:16.740 the Fed also cut interest rates

00:19:18.160 to near zero.

00:19:19.760 So the government

00:19:20.600 directly contributed

00:19:21.820 to the high price of homes

00:19:24.000 that we're seeing right now.

00:19:26.440 Stands to reason

00:19:27.180 the government

00:19:27.560 can take action

00:19:28.240 to reduce

00:19:28.840 the price of homes.

00:19:29.800 It's like you created

00:19:31.780 the problem.

00:19:32.880 Maybe you could fix it.

00:19:35.400 Lower interest rates

00:19:36.400 are part of the solution.

00:19:37.500 Cutting any kind

00:19:38.080 of discretionary spending

00:19:38.980 is another.

00:19:40.060 But Republicans

00:19:40.840 aren't really doing that.

00:19:41.640 They just voted

00:19:42.140 to fully fund

00:19:42.800 the SNAP program,

00:19:43.920 which, as we've discussed

00:19:45.460 previously,

00:19:45.980 is an even bigger fraud

00:19:47.200 than the COVID

00:19:47.740 paycheck protection program.

00:19:51.760 You know,

00:19:52.240 whenever they have

00:19:52.840 an opportunity,

00:19:53.400 actually lower prices

00:19:54.620 on housing,

00:19:55.500 Republicans aren't doing it.

00:19:56.480 And the president

00:19:58.800 in this interview

00:19:59.600 didn't seem interested

00:20:00.900 in helping to address

00:20:01.820 the problem either.

00:20:02.840 At one point,

00:20:03.220 he stated that we need

00:20:04.260 foreign migration

00:20:05.240 into this country

00:20:07.080 because Americans

00:20:08.460 don't have the skills

00:20:09.600 to perform jobs

00:20:10.820 that are necessary.

00:20:12.680 Watch.

00:20:12.980 H-1B visa thing

00:20:15.660 will not be a big priority

00:20:17.440 for your administration

00:20:18.240 because if you want

00:20:18.780 to raise wages

00:20:19.500 for American workers,

00:20:20.720 you can't flood the country

00:20:22.000 with tens of thousands

00:20:23.460 or hundreds of thousands

00:20:24.420 of foreign workers.

00:20:25.000 You also do have

00:20:26.120 to bring in talent.

00:20:27.700 We have plenty

00:20:28.360 of talented people here.

00:20:29.420 No, you don't.

00:20:29.800 No, you don't.

00:20:30.140 We don't have talented people here.

00:20:31.560 No, you don't have

00:20:32.200 certain talents

00:20:33.700 and people have to learn.

00:20:35.640 You can't take people

00:20:36.640 off an unemployment line

00:20:39.220 and say,

00:20:39.700 I'm going to put you

00:20:40.540 into a factory

00:20:41.160 where we're going

00:20:41.520 to make missiles

00:20:42.160 or I'm going to put you...

00:20:42.940 How did we ever do it before?

00:20:44.700 I think we have plenty

00:20:45.800 of highly skilled

00:20:47.540 and talented people

00:20:48.380 in this country.

00:20:49.220 I also think

00:20:49.840 that it's undeniable

00:20:50.860 that we don't have

00:20:52.680 as many as we should

00:20:53.960 because the public school system

00:20:55.240 has been an abject,

00:20:56.340 disastrous failure

00:20:57.300 for decades now.

00:20:58.780 So it is true.

00:20:59.940 Like, is there a problem

00:21:00.940 with having sort of,

00:21:03.500 like, not enough people

00:21:04.380 who are competent

00:21:05.260 and skilled and all that?

00:21:06.360 Well, yeah,

00:21:06.620 when you've got

00:21:07.000 a public school system

00:21:07.780 that's a total,

00:21:08.520 absolute failure

00:21:09.200 in every respect,

00:21:10.820 then, yeah,

00:21:12.380 it's going to have

00:21:12.700 a lot of downstream,

00:21:13.400 a lot of downstream consequences

00:21:14.960 and this is one of them.

00:21:16.160 The solution, though,

00:21:17.720 is not to flood the market

00:21:18.980 with foreigners.

00:21:21.420 You know,

00:21:21.640 if Trump is right

00:21:22.360 about American workers

00:21:23.200 not having the skills,

00:21:24.740 then that's all the more reason

00:21:26.600 to cut off the H-1B program

00:21:28.040 and train up actual Americans

00:21:30.220 because America

00:21:33.040 is for Americans,

00:21:34.400 as provocative

00:21:35.020 as that idea may be.

00:21:36.560 At the very least,

00:21:39.140 the absolute minimum,

00:21:40.680 the president

00:21:41.120 should be explaining

00:21:41.960 in detail

00:21:42.520 what he's doing

00:21:43.240 to stop the abuse

00:21:44.320 of the H-1B system

00:21:45.440 and the rampant fraud

00:21:46.760 that's involved,

00:21:47.500 which is so flagrant

00:21:48.240 that everybody

00:21:48.700 in the technology industry

00:21:49.700 talks about it all the time.

00:21:51.700 He should tell us

00:21:52.740 how he's drastically

00:21:53.560 scaling back

00:21:54.440 the number of H-1Bs,

00:21:55.720 the vast majority

00:21:56.840 of whom are not,

00:21:57.720 in fact,

00:21:58.420 working in highly technical

00:21:59.820 or specialized fields.

00:22:02.080 That's the other thing

00:22:02.900 that's not mentioned

00:22:03.820 by Trump

00:22:04.560 very often

00:22:05.200 in this conversation.

00:22:06.800 Like,

00:22:07.320 we're pretending

00:22:07.780 that these are all

00:22:08.620 highly technical,

00:22:09.740 very specialized.

00:22:11.560 That is not the case.

00:22:13.980 And again,

00:22:14.660 this is the bare minimum.

00:22:15.520 And personally,

00:22:15.940 I'd like to see

00:22:16.360 the program abolished entirely.

00:22:17.900 So I'm talking

00:22:18.560 about bare minimum.

00:22:21.180 Right now,

00:22:21.860 there are accounts

00:22:22.600 on X

00:22:22.960 that are exclusively

00:22:23.660 devoted to exposing

00:22:24.720 how various large companies,

00:22:26.140 including Nextdoor,

00:22:27.320 are defrauding

00:22:28.120 the H-1B system

00:22:29.100 by posting job advertisements

00:22:31.440 on random,

00:22:32.620 no-name,

00:22:33.680 online job boards.

00:22:35.000 Here's just one example

00:22:36.220 of what these ads

00:22:36.880 look like,

00:22:38.000 which you can see

00:22:38.760 right there.

00:22:39.440 Basically,

00:22:40.320 so to hire H-1Bs,

00:22:41.900 this is the way it works,

00:22:43.360 a company needs to show

00:22:45.220 that they made

00:22:46.120 a good faith effort

00:22:47.260 to hire Americans first.

00:22:50.380 So,

00:22:51.160 and this is something

00:22:51.820 people that defend

00:22:52.560 the H-1B program,

00:22:53.440 they'll point this out.

00:22:54.780 They'll say that,

00:22:55.700 well,

00:22:55.920 you're only using that

00:22:57.180 if you can't find

00:22:57.760 any Americans

00:22:58.320 to do these jobs.

00:22:59.480 Oh, really?

00:23:00.380 Is that the case?

00:23:01.300 Well,

00:23:01.580 how does that work

00:23:02.180 in practice?

00:23:03.140 What they do

00:23:03.700 is they post an ad

00:23:04.720 on one of these job boards,

00:23:06.280 which are not,

00:23:08.440 like,

00:23:08.760 real.

00:23:09.740 They get no responses

00:23:10.940 because there's no one

00:23:11.840 looking at the board,

00:23:13.020 and then they claim

00:23:14.260 that Americans

00:23:14.820 weren't interested.

00:23:17.680 You know,

00:23:18.120 it's like they walked

00:23:19.620 into an empty forest

00:23:20.480 and said,

00:23:21.000 hey,

00:23:21.140 anybody want this job?

00:23:23.400 No?

00:23:23.880 Okay,

00:23:24.200 well,

00:23:24.400 I guess we gotta hire

00:23:24.920 someone from,

00:23:25.500 you know,

00:23:26.020 India.

00:23:27.400 That's the way it goes.

00:23:28.240 So keep in mind,

00:23:28.680 Nextdoor could have

00:23:29.260 listed this job

00:23:29.980 on their official

00:23:30.840 openings website,

00:23:31.980 but they didn't.

00:23:34.940 This is a practice

00:23:35.860 that's obviously worth

00:23:37.100 a few criminal investigations,

00:23:38.460 but as of now,

00:23:39.240 only a few X accounts

00:23:40.220 seem interested

00:23:40.740 in stopping it,

00:23:42.100 which needs to change.

00:23:44.760 All of those steps,

00:23:46.080 in the end,

00:23:46.620 would reduce the competition

00:23:47.720 for housing in this country,

00:23:48.800 especially in high-demand areas

00:23:50.280 like Northern California

00:23:51.260 and parts of Texas,

00:23:52.180 and they are actual

00:23:53.560 useful steps

00:23:54.420 and not band-aids

00:23:56.100 that will actually

00:23:56.660 make the problem worse,

00:23:57.680 like a 50-year mortgage.

00:23:59.260 The best thing

00:24:01.400 you could say

00:24:01.800 about a 50-year mortgage

00:24:02.560 is that at best

00:24:03.880 it is a band-aid solution.

00:24:07.020 But it's like a band-aid

00:24:09.120 that you put

00:24:09.920 on a,

00:24:10.840 you know,

00:24:12.200 on a deep gash

00:24:14.440 on an artery

00:24:15.120 where you're just

00:24:15.700 like bleeding out

00:24:16.700 and you put a band-aid

00:24:18.620 on it

00:24:18.980 and maybe that will

00:24:20.260 help for about

00:24:21.780 10 seconds

00:24:22.520 and then you're gonna die.

00:24:25.420 So,

00:24:26.180 you know,

00:24:26.420 this is a basic

00:24:27.320 supply and demand thing.

00:24:28.320 Also,

00:24:28.880 not to jump

00:24:29.580 on my

00:24:30.500 anti-AI

00:24:32.080 soapbox again,

00:24:33.360 but

00:24:33.580 we should probably

00:24:35.380 put in some regulations

00:24:36.300 in place

00:24:37.600 before AI

00:24:38.660 wipes out

00:24:39.360 millions of jobs

00:24:40.260 and makes

00:24:40.620 home ownership

00:24:41.180 or owning anything else

00:24:42.500 impossible

00:24:43.200 for millions

00:24:44.440 more Americans.

00:24:46.440 So,

00:24:46.760 if we're talking

00:24:47.100 about actual solutions,

00:24:48.460 this is also a thing

00:24:49.600 that needs to happen.

00:24:51.800 I don't care how sick

00:24:52.500 people may be

00:24:53.140 of hearing me say it.

00:24:53.980 Well,

00:24:54.080 you're gonna hear me

00:24:54.380 say it a lot more

00:24:55.020 because this is

00:24:55.700 the issue

00:24:56.640 of the future

00:24:57.240 and this is coming.

00:25:01.360 You know,

00:25:01.520 out of curiosity,

00:25:02.520 I went to

00:25:03.280 ChatGPT,

00:25:04.900 figured,

00:25:05.280 you know,

00:25:05.420 go right to the source

00:25:06.400 and just ask

00:25:08.080 ChatGPT to estimate

00:25:09.480 how many jobs

00:25:10.780 it will erase,

00:25:12.100 like AI,

00:25:12.940 how many jobs,

00:25:13.420 ask AI,

00:25:14.120 how many jobs

00:25:14.840 AI will erase,

00:25:17.140 eliminate

00:25:17.400 in the next 10 years.

00:25:19.320 and it estimated

00:25:21.300 up to 15%,

00:25:22.740 which is about

00:25:25.060 25 million jobs lost.

00:25:27.340 Now,

00:25:27.780 that strikes me

00:25:28.460 as quite conservative,

00:25:30.400 but even

00:25:31.740 just

00:25:32.980 15%

00:25:34.300 is catastrophic.

00:25:37.820 I'm not sure

00:25:38.700 how our society

00:25:39.620 can absorb

00:25:40.420 those losses

00:25:41.220 without causing

00:25:42.580 a full-scale collapse.

00:25:43.700 Does anyone know?

00:25:45.500 Does anyone know

00:25:46.460 how we're gonna

00:25:46.920 do this?

00:25:47.560 How is this

00:25:49.520 gonna work?

00:25:51.920 What happens

00:25:52.600 in the next few years

00:25:53.140 you got 25 million people

00:25:54.140 who don't have jobs

00:25:54.660 on top of the ones

00:25:55.400 who already don't have them.

00:25:57.400 Entire industries

00:25:58.280 from transportation

00:25:59.200 to consulting

00:26:01.100 and everything in between

00:26:02.140 are going to be

00:26:03.780 decimated.

00:26:05.180 I mean,

00:26:05.340 what are the millions

00:26:06.020 of truckers

00:26:06.620 and secretaries

00:26:07.360 and customer support

00:26:08.180 representatives

00:26:08.660 and accountants

00:26:09.320 and lawyers

00:26:09.700 and consultants

00:26:10.580 and everyone else

00:26:11.920 gonna do

00:26:13.220 when AI

00:26:14.800 can easily

00:26:15.500 replace them?

00:26:16.060 Two decades ago,

00:26:18.400 a book was published

00:26:19.080 entitled

00:26:19.500 Who Owns the Future?

00:26:20.420 And it's one of the few

00:26:21.600 serious explorations

00:26:22.560 of this question

00:26:23.180 that I've seen,

00:26:24.100 even though it didn't

00:26:25.120 deal with AI explicitly.

00:26:26.840 And it's worth a read

00:26:27.720 for that reason alone.

00:26:28.440 The author,

00:26:29.240 Jaron Lanier,

00:26:30.560 proposes that people

00:26:31.440 should be compensated

00:26:32.560 for contributing

00:26:33.160 to various online economies

00:26:34.740 and free services

00:26:35.840 like Facebook

00:26:36.480 and Google

00:26:37.000 and helping to train

00:26:38.660 their various algorithms.

00:26:39.620 So if an AI

00:26:40.920 uses your posts

00:26:41.940 on Reddit

00:26:42.580 for training data

00:26:44.280 or your Facebook

00:26:45.680 arguments

00:26:46.080 or whatever,

00:26:46.560 then you get royalties.

00:26:49.940 And this is even more.

00:26:51.100 Now,

00:26:51.320 with AI,

00:26:52.040 all it's doing

00:26:52.840 is plagiarizing

00:26:53.620 all the time.

00:26:54.480 Every time you ask

00:26:55.540 AI anything

00:26:56.140 and it gives you

00:26:57.100 an answer,

00:26:57.400 it's just plagiarizing it.

00:26:58.940 And if you ask it

00:26:59.700 to generate something,

00:27:01.020 create something,

00:27:02.000 then it's not

00:27:02.700 creating anything,

00:27:03.180 it's just plagiarizing

00:27:04.060 it from somebody else.

00:27:05.780 Now,

00:27:05.980 if AI is truly

00:27:06.680 going to generate

00:27:07.260 trillions in revenue,

00:27:08.240 then these payouts

00:27:10.300 would be trivial

00:27:10.960 for the companies

00:27:11.920 and potentially

00:27:13.400 life-saving

00:27:13.980 for everybody else.

00:27:14.820 I mean,

00:27:14.940 that's one thing.

00:27:16.020 That's one idea.

00:27:17.760 There are other solutions,

00:27:18.980 too.

00:27:19.120 Elon Musk has proposed

00:27:20.080 that when his robo-taxis

00:27:21.400 go live

00:27:22.040 with nobody

00:27:23.000 in the driver's seat,

00:27:23.800 Uber drivers

00:27:24.360 will be able

00:27:24.820 to manage

00:27:25.580 entire fleets

00:27:26.320 of taxis

00:27:26.920 and make money

00:27:27.420 that way.

00:27:28.400 Although,

00:27:28.760 again,

00:27:29.980 bare minimum.

00:27:30.960 That's a bare minimum

00:27:31.700 kind of solution

00:27:32.300 as far as I'm concerned.

00:27:32.980 Personally,

00:27:33.460 I think we should

00:27:34.020 pass laws

00:27:34.740 banning companies

00:27:35.840 from wiping out

00:27:37.500 entire categories

00:27:39.140 of jobs

00:27:40.080 in favor of AI.

00:27:42.740 That's what I think

00:27:43.440 we should be doing.

00:27:44.480 We should be looking

00:27:45.000 at legislation

00:27:45.540 saying you can't

00:27:46.700 do this.

00:27:48.960 You cannot just wipe out

00:27:50.560 tens of millions

00:27:51.760 of jobs.

00:27:53.260 Our society cannot,

00:27:54.560 we can't,

00:27:55.280 you can't do it.

00:27:56.360 It's going to destroy society.

00:27:57.900 That's why you can't do it.

00:28:00.060 Now,

00:28:00.540 that's the sort of thing

00:28:01.160 that makes

00:28:01.640 free market conservatives

00:28:03.100 like me

00:28:03.960 very uncomfortable.

00:28:05.520 but we're at a moment

00:28:08.160 in history

00:28:08.600 when we have to choose

00:28:09.620 between doing things

00:28:10.600 that make us uncomfortable

00:28:11.420 or allowing millions

00:28:12.880 of people,

00:28:14.500 millions at a time

00:28:15.780 to lose their jobs

00:28:17.520 and their livelihoods

00:28:18.560 and any chance

00:28:19.420 of owning a home

00:28:20.120 or experiencing

00:28:20.700 anything like

00:28:21.620 the American dream

00:28:22.720 ever.

00:28:25.160 So,

00:28:25.760 yeah,

00:28:25.880 you have to do something.

00:28:28.160 You can't just sit back

00:28:29.520 and let it happen.

00:28:30.400 And the bottom line

00:28:33.220 is that the Trump administration

00:28:34.180 needs to be talking

00:28:35.480 about solutions like this.

00:28:36.560 I'm not pretending

00:28:36.940 I have all the solutions.

00:28:37.900 I certainly don't.

00:28:39.960 I also wasn't elected

00:28:41.220 to come up with the solutions.

00:28:44.180 The people we did elect

00:28:45.400 need to start talking

00:28:46.180 about this stuff.

00:28:47.480 What are we going

00:28:48.200 to do about this?

00:28:50.740 People can't buy homes.

00:28:51.960 They're not able

00:28:52.300 to live in homes.

00:28:52.800 It's going to get worse.

00:28:55.500 There are people

00:28:56.200 who are in industries

00:28:57.440 right now.

00:28:57.940 They already can't afford

00:28:58.940 a home.

00:28:59.360 They're being actively

00:29:00.680 replaced by algorithms

00:29:02.200 as we speak.

00:29:03.920 It's going to get worse.

00:29:05.640 What are you going

00:29:06.840 to do about it?

00:29:09.960 There's almost nobody

00:29:11.520 in a position of power

00:29:12.500 offering any

00:29:13.820 solutions at all.

00:29:18.860 They're not even trying.

00:29:22.440 It's not enough

00:29:23.300 to try to just

00:29:24.120 band-aid over the problem.

00:29:27.660 We need solutions.

00:29:29.080 What are we going

00:29:29.620 to do about this?

00:29:30.340 Now, politically,

00:29:31.240 there's simply

00:29:32.860 no other option.

00:29:34.960 The conservative movement

00:29:36.500 has to seriously address

00:29:38.600 these kinds of problems.

00:29:40.880 The entire movement

00:29:42.140 will be left in the dust

00:29:43.360 if we don't work

00:29:44.820 on ways to actually

00:29:45.720 improve Americans' lives

00:29:46.880 and address the real

00:29:47.720 challenges they face

00:29:48.520 every day.

00:29:49.120 The only point of any of this,

00:29:50.620 the only point of politics

00:29:51.920 or economics

00:29:52.580 or anything,

00:29:54.180 the only point of anything

00:29:56.500 that we talk about

00:29:57.380 on this show every day,

00:29:58.500 the only point of anything

00:29:59.280 that any of us talk about

00:30:00.360 is or should be

00:30:03.100 to see to the well-being

00:30:06.340 of American citizens.

00:30:07.640 All of our systems

00:30:08.760 should serve

00:30:09.400 exactly one purpose

00:30:10.860 and one purpose only,

00:30:13.060 which is to help

00:30:15.140 our citizens

00:30:15.960 live good lives.

00:30:17.420 That is the only point

00:30:20.220 of any of it.

00:30:21.820 Anything that does not

00:30:22.840 serve that purpose

00:30:23.840 is bad or useless.

00:30:26.740 Anything that does

00:30:27.700 serve that purpose

00:30:28.540 is good.

00:30:29.240 It's pretty simple.

00:30:30.460 I'm very simple

00:30:31.340 and it's as simple as that.

00:30:34.420 You've got an idea,

00:30:35.580 okay,

00:30:35.760 does it improve

00:30:36.280 people's lives?

00:30:36.980 If the answer is no,

00:30:37.940 it makes it worse,

00:30:38.620 it's a bad idea.

00:30:39.300 We shouldn't do it.

00:30:40.360 That's it.

00:30:41.020 We should not do it.

00:30:42.520 There's not any,

00:30:43.080 yeah,

00:30:43.280 but it does this.

00:30:44.040 I don't care

00:30:44.580 what else it does.

00:30:46.820 It actively harms Americans.

00:30:48.380 We shouldn't do it.

00:30:49.500 Period.

00:30:52.920 Now,

00:30:53.280 this is not socialism

00:30:54.280 we're talking about.

00:30:55.060 Socialism,

00:30:55.480 in fact,

00:30:55.740 is bad precisely

00:30:56.820 because of this,

00:30:57.560 because it does not

00:30:58.340 enhance the well-being

00:30:59.160 of the citizenry,

00:30:59.880 but instead it makes

00:31:00.500 their lives worse

00:31:01.140 by every metric.

00:31:02.900 That's how we know

00:31:03.520 socialism is bad.

00:31:04.540 And this is the metric.

00:31:07.560 This is the thing

00:31:08.340 we should be focused on.

00:31:10.420 It's why the

00:31:11.060 home ownership issue

00:31:11.860 is obviously

00:31:12.640 crucially important.

00:31:13.940 it's why

00:31:16.860 our leaders,

00:31:19.220 speaking again

00:31:20.080 from a political perspective,

00:31:21.720 even though the politics

00:31:22.960 are, again,

00:31:23.520 are a secondary concern.

00:31:24.760 I mean,

00:31:24.920 when it comes to

00:31:25.340 home ownership,

00:31:25.820 the main concern

00:31:26.420 is like people need homes

00:31:27.500 and they need to be able

00:31:28.760 to live in homes

00:31:29.280 and they need to,

00:31:29.780 they need to be able

00:31:30.860 to experience home ownership.

00:31:31.960 But from a political perspective,

00:31:34.440 our leaders

00:31:37.740 in the conservative movement

00:31:39.220 need to take this on

00:31:42.420 and need to take this seriously.

00:31:43.540 like so much

00:31:45.420 of the conversation

00:31:46.120 on the right

00:31:46.740 is about,

00:31:49.080 has been about

00:31:49.900 foreign policy,

00:31:52.640 you know,

00:31:52.900 global affairs.

00:31:55.440 Meanwhile,

00:31:55.920 the average American

00:31:56.680 is wondering

00:31:57.140 if he'll ever be able

00:31:57.860 to buy a house

00:31:58.480 and if the industry

00:32:00.360 he works in

00:32:00.920 will still exist

00:32:01.880 five years from now.

00:32:05.760 The average American

00:32:06.620 is sitting there thinking

00:32:07.260 like,

00:32:07.580 what am I going to do?

00:32:10.880 What am I going to do

00:32:11.780 with my life

00:32:12.220 five years from now?

00:32:13.540 Those are very real concerns.

00:32:18.020 I mean,

00:32:18.640 they're,

00:32:18.880 they're the most

00:32:20.100 important concerns

00:32:20.820 that a country can face

00:32:22.140 and

00:32:22.600 if Republicans

00:32:24.020 don't want to address them,

00:32:25.260 then another party,

00:32:26.640 the party that openly

00:32:27.300 seeks to destroy

00:32:28.020 civilization itself

00:32:29.000 will do it for them

00:32:29.880 and do it in the worst ways

00:32:32.460 with the worst answers.

00:32:34.400 But one thing we've learned

00:32:37.620 is this.

00:32:39.360 People with bad answers

00:32:41.100 always beat the people

00:32:43.720 with no answers.

00:32:46.940 So what are your answers?

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00:35:24.880 Speaking of the

00:35:25.700 H-1B controversy,

00:35:27.560 DHS Secretary

00:35:28.140 Kristi Noem

00:35:28.860 was on Fox

00:35:29.860 this morning

00:35:30.640 talking about it

00:35:33.300 and I guess

00:35:34.480 the idea was

00:35:35.600 to do

00:35:36.020 a little bit

00:35:37.080 of cleanup,

00:35:38.620 mopping up a bit

00:35:39.440 but I don't know

00:35:41.780 that she achieved that.

00:35:42.640 Let's listen.

00:35:43.420 What is the

00:35:44.800 administration's

00:35:45.640 position

00:35:46.120 on these visas?

00:35:49.080 We're going to

00:35:49.840 keep using

00:35:50.440 our visa programs.

00:35:51.620 We're just going

00:35:51.940 to make sure

00:35:52.300 that they have

00:35:52.720 integrity,

00:35:53.400 that we're actually

00:35:54.260 doing the vetting

00:35:55.140 of the individuals

00:35:55.880 who come into

00:35:56.620 this country,

00:35:57.100 that they want

00:35:57.580 to be here

00:35:57.920 for the right

00:35:58.480 reasons,

00:35:59.020 that they're not

00:35:59.660 supporters of

00:36:00.340 terrorists

00:36:00.820 and organizations

00:36:02.120 that hate America.

00:36:03.700 And that's what

00:36:04.180 I think is so

00:36:04.680 remarkable is under

00:36:05.420 the Trump administration,

00:36:06.720 we've sped up

00:36:07.520 our process

00:36:08.080 and added integrity

00:36:09.080 to the visa programs,

00:36:10.460 to green cards,

00:36:11.780 to all of that

00:36:12.440 but also more people

00:36:13.840 are becoming naturalized

00:36:15.360 under this administration

00:36:16.380 than ever before.

00:36:17.740 More people

00:36:18.100 are becoming citizens

00:36:19.260 because we're not

00:36:20.740 just streamlining

00:36:22.140 and building

00:36:22.880 some processes

00:36:24.080 back into our

00:36:24.920 immigration policies,

00:36:25.880 we're also making

00:36:27.200 sure that these

00:36:27.780 individuals that are

00:36:28.640 coming into our

00:36:29.340 country and get

00:36:30.080 that privilege,

00:36:31.480 that they actually

00:36:32.020 are here for the

00:36:32.560 right reasons.

00:36:33.520 The Biden administration

00:36:34.380 let thousands

00:36:35.260 of terrorists

00:36:36.320 into this country,

00:36:37.200 they opened the

00:36:37.780 southern border,

00:36:38.340 they abused

00:36:39.600 our asylum programs,

00:36:40.880 abused our

00:36:41.460 protective programs

00:36:42.420 and visa programs

00:36:43.300 and we fixed

00:36:44.220 all of it.

00:36:45.040 It's remarkable

00:36:45.720 what President Trump

00:36:46.500 has done and it's

00:36:47.160 because he's a

00:36:47.700 great leader,

00:36:48.280 he's a visionary

00:36:48.900 and this man

00:36:49.780 is going to go down

00:36:50.420 as a legend

00:36:51.120 in history

00:36:52.080 as our greatest

00:36:52.680 president ever.

00:36:54.280 No, that's not...

00:36:56.920 Okay, put the fish cam up.

00:36:58.580 Have we seen the fish cam

00:36:59.720 this week at all?

00:37:02.420 That's the problem.

00:37:04.620 That's the problem

00:37:05.460 because we haven't

00:37:06.060 spent enough time

00:37:06.840 with the fish cam.

00:37:08.900 I think Trump

00:37:09.640 hasn't spent enough

00:37:10.300 time with the fish cam.

00:37:12.920 Maybe that's why

00:37:13.680 he's on with Laura

00:37:14.580 Ingram talking

00:37:15.100 about H-1Bs

00:37:15.920 and 10,000-year

00:37:18.280 mortgages.

00:37:20.280 Spend a little time

00:37:21.080 with the fish cam.

00:37:21.700 Let things settle

00:37:22.260 down a bit.

00:37:23.540 Let's calm ourselves.

00:37:26.060 Okay.

00:37:28.500 All right,

00:37:29.000 that's enough of that.

00:37:30.040 This is not the answer

00:37:31.120 that we are looking

00:37:32.160 for.

00:37:33.740 Kristi Noem,

00:37:34.480 we don't need

00:37:35.280 we don't need

00:37:36.600 more people.

00:37:37.580 The problem

00:37:38.020 is not that

00:37:38.760 immigrants

00:37:39.260 aren't becoming

00:37:40.960 citizens fast enough,

00:37:42.340 right?

00:37:43.220 It's not that

00:37:43.640 we're not bringing

00:37:44.800 enough immigrants.

00:37:46.540 I think bragging

00:37:47.640 that you've naturalized

00:37:48.780 more immigrants

00:37:49.360 than anyone else

00:37:50.160 is totally tone-deaf.

00:37:54.140 That's that...

00:37:55.120 Yeah, it's like

00:37:55.580 that's right.

00:37:56.520 That's the problem.

00:37:57.620 We don't want that.

00:38:00.320 So just forget

00:38:01.500 about the substance

00:38:02.200 of the issue

00:38:02.840 for a moment.

00:38:03.560 And we talk about

00:38:04.220 that all the time.

00:38:05.440 So you know

00:38:05.980 where I stand on that.

00:38:08.040 But going back

00:38:08.720 to the politics,

00:38:09.540 politically,

00:38:11.280 bragging that

00:38:12.480 more people

00:38:13.140 are becoming citizens,

00:38:14.540 promoting the H-1B

00:38:15.420 program,

00:38:16.100 and all of that,

00:38:17.300 that is political poison.

00:38:19.480 Who is it supposed

00:38:20.300 to appeal to?

00:38:21.920 Who are you

00:38:22.460 trying to impress?

00:38:28.160 Now,

00:38:28.540 I know that for

00:38:28.980 Kristi Noem,

00:38:29.400 when she's up there,

00:38:29.820 she's saying,

00:38:30.060 well,

00:38:30.120 Trump's going to go down

00:38:30.740 as the greatest

00:38:31.100 president of all time

00:38:31.800 and all that kind of stuff.

00:38:32.540 It's like partly

00:38:33.240 she's trying to appeal

00:38:33.960 to President Trump

00:38:34.500 himself.

00:38:35.160 We all get that,

00:38:36.580 clearly.

00:38:37.780 But if we want

00:38:40.580 the Republican Party

00:38:41.340 to continue to exist,

00:38:42.580 if we want the

00:38:42.980 conservative movement

00:38:43.700 to continue to exist,

00:38:45.020 then you've got to appeal

00:38:46.020 to more than just

00:38:46.660 Trump himself.

00:38:48.740 And this is not

00:38:49.460 going to do it.

00:38:51.780 And just constantly

00:38:52.720 insisting,

00:38:53.140 even Trump in the

00:38:54.380 Laura Ingraham interview,

00:38:55.220 he said that

00:38:55.780 this is the greatest

00:38:56.600 economy that the

00:38:57.620 world's ever seen.

00:38:59.520 No, it's not.

00:39:00.320 I mean,

00:39:00.860 you can't convince us

00:39:02.600 of that by just

00:39:03.160 telling us that.

00:39:03.900 People are living in it.

00:39:06.160 So when you say

00:39:06.980 it's the greatest

00:39:07.440 economy of all time,

00:39:08.580 yes, well,

00:39:09.080 a lot of people

00:39:09.500 are looking around

00:39:09.900 saying, yeah,

00:39:10.300 but I can't afford

00:39:11.000 groceries.

00:39:11.420 I can't afford a house.

00:39:12.740 I can't afford groceries.

00:39:13.660 I can't afford a house.

00:39:14.260 Tell me it's the greatest

00:39:14.780 economy of all time.

00:39:18.660 People are drawing

00:39:19.420 the connection here.

00:39:20.360 They're saying,

00:39:20.940 well, I can't afford

00:39:21.440 groceries.

00:39:21.780 I can't afford a house.

00:39:22.600 My parents were

00:39:26.520 living in a house

00:39:27.080 when they were like

00:39:27.600 12 years younger

00:39:28.220 than I am right now.

00:39:30.340 But it's the

00:39:31.100 greatest economy

00:39:31.620 ever right now.

00:39:32.240 This really,

00:39:33.620 this is the greatest

00:39:34.160 ever?

00:39:34.980 Doesn't seem like it.

00:39:38.600 That's the calculation

00:39:39.740 that a lot of people

00:39:40.640 are making.

00:39:42.440 That's a very

00:39:43.060 rational calculation.

00:39:46.780 So who are you

00:39:47.620 trying,

00:39:47.920 like who is this

00:39:48.840 supposed to appeal to?

00:39:49.520 The left has

00:39:50.620 already decided

00:39:51.380 that the

00:39:52.600 they've decided

00:39:53.320 on their Trump

00:39:53.880 narrative,

00:39:54.520 right?

00:39:55.240 They decided a long

00:39:55.860 time ago.

00:39:56.200 They decided 10 years

00:39:57.040 ago.

00:39:57.660 It's never going to

00:39:58.460 change.

00:39:59.080 Trump is Hitler,

00:40:00.240 no matter what.

00:40:01.800 Doesn't matter what he

00:40:02.640 does.

00:40:03.020 Doesn't matter what he

00:40:03.600 says.

00:40:04.640 Never going to change.

00:40:06.840 So you're not going

00:40:07.920 to appeal to the left.

00:40:09.040 You can't.

00:40:09.880 You shouldn't try.

00:40:11.440 And that leaves all

00:40:12.500 the rest of us.

00:40:14.260 And for the rest of us,

00:40:15.680 what we want is for

00:40:17.760 someone to unashamedly

00:40:19.100 and single-mindedly

00:40:20.100 advocate for Americans.

00:40:22.920 And Americans only.

00:40:26.600 We want someone to

00:40:27.620 say, you know,

00:40:28.160 the only thing I care

00:40:29.080 about is helping

00:40:30.560 Americans.

00:40:31.080 The only people I care

00:40:32.160 about in the world are

00:40:32.880 Americans.

00:40:35.200 And we don't want to

00:40:35.900 just hear that, but we

00:40:36.680 want to see the action

00:40:37.500 taken as well.

00:40:38.420 You know, I've seen

00:40:38.840 some people on social

00:40:39.620 media say, hey, it's

00:40:40.500 America first, but not

00:40:41.500 America only.

00:40:44.520 I disagree.

00:40:46.340 I think it is

00:40:47.100 America only.

00:40:47.820 It's like I said

00:40:51.480 months ago, I consider

00:40:52.400 myself an American

00:40:53.520 chauvinist.

00:40:54.940 America first, America

00:40:55.940 only, I'm an American

00:40:56.640 chauvinist.

00:40:57.180 I don't care about it.

00:40:58.020 This is the only thing

00:40:58.800 I care about.

00:41:00.780 America should be the

00:41:01.560 only thing you care

00:41:02.160 about, especially as a

00:41:03.100 leader of the country.

00:41:07.640 Yeah, it's American

00:41:09.300 chauvinism.

00:41:10.880 You should be saying

00:41:11.680 to Americans, yeah, I

00:41:12.400 put you above everybody

00:41:13.180 else, and so you're

00:41:17.100 not saying, well, some

00:41:18.200 of these other people

00:41:18.900 are more talented.

00:41:19.560 We've got to bring

00:41:19.940 them in.

00:41:20.320 Nope.

00:41:22.240 Yeah, but you

00:41:22.860 shouldn't care about

00:41:23.440 them because they're

00:41:24.020 not Americans.

00:41:25.960 So if we have a

00:41:26.620 problem where, you

00:41:27.400 know, not enough

00:41:28.080 Americans have the

00:41:29.100 skills necessary to

00:41:29.900 get the jobs, then

00:41:30.840 we've got to train up

00:41:31.400 these Americans.

00:41:31.980 We've got to fix

00:41:32.340 that problem.

00:41:34.920 Sounds like, like I

00:41:35.800 said, we've got a big

00:41:36.240 problem with the

00:41:36.660 school system.

00:41:38.320 Okay, we need major

00:41:39.280 fixes to that.

00:41:41.000 Let's get to work

00:41:41.720 fixing that.

00:41:43.180 The solution is not

00:41:45.540 to bring in anybody

00:41:46.400 from another country

00:41:47.780 because they

00:41:51.500 shouldn't matter to

00:41:52.400 you, frankly.

00:41:54.100 They should matter to

00:41:55.060 their leaders, not to

00:41:55.920 you.

00:41:58.800 Now, you can have a

00:41:59.760 general concern for

00:42:00.920 them, a sense of

00:42:01.940 Christian charity for

00:42:03.100 human beings in

00:42:04.380 general.

00:42:04.800 You don't wish them

00:42:05.460 ill, certainly.

00:42:07.820 But as a leader,

00:42:10.460 the people that you're

00:42:12.540 concerned about are

00:42:14.620 people in your

00:42:17.020 country.

00:42:21.940 It's like anything

00:42:22.720 else.

00:42:23.160 I mean, this is,

00:42:24.000 this is, this

00:42:25.800 logic is very

00:42:28.240 obvious to most

00:42:29.920 people in most

00:42:30.540 situations.

00:42:33.020 Okay, it's like if

00:42:33.820 you're the coach of a

00:42:34.580 football team, it's

00:42:37.660 it's not just my

00:42:38.600 team first.

00:42:39.360 It's like, no, my

00:42:40.180 team only.

00:42:40.800 Actually, I don't, I

00:42:43.820 don't hate those other

00:42:44.520 people.

00:42:45.140 I don't want them to

00:42:45.940 die.

00:42:46.300 I don't want anything

00:42:46.640 bad to happen to

00:42:47.320 them, but this is my

00:42:49.140 team.

00:42:49.880 I care about my

00:42:51.000 team.

00:42:51.400 My, my priority is my

00:42:52.860 team, period.

00:42:56.560 Yes, my team only.

00:42:58.080 It's the only team I

00:42:58.680 care about.

00:42:59.160 I'm, I'm leading this

00:43:00.420 team.

00:43:01.860 Those other teams,

00:43:02.700 they have their own

00:43:03.280 leadership.

00:43:03.580 That should be the

00:43:07.180 mentality.

00:43:09.100 So, look, Trump has

00:43:11.400 done a lot of good

00:43:11.900 things in his first

00:43:12.580 nine or 10 months, but

00:43:13.800 now's the time to go

00:43:15.140 all the way.

00:43:15.640 Take it all the way.

00:43:16.360 Do the things that no

00:43:17.320 other president would

00:43:18.160 do.

00:43:18.420 Do the things that you

00:43:20.300 can uniquely do as a

00:43:21.780 president who is already

00:43:22.880 hated by the left and by

00:43:25.000 the media more than

00:43:25.920 anyone who's ever

00:43:26.620 lived.

00:43:29.000 As somebody who will

00:43:29.820 be out of public

00:43:30.560 office for good in a

00:43:32.500 few years.

00:43:33.580 nothing to lose.

00:43:37.220 Just go do it.

00:43:38.280 Mass deportations.

00:43:40.060 Actual mass

00:43:40.820 deportations.

00:43:43.360 What's the downside?

00:43:44.680 It, it's obviously the

00:43:46.780 right thing to do.

00:43:47.480 We all know that.

00:43:49.960 Yeah, it might be a

00:43:50.740 little ugly.

00:43:52.840 It's going to force you

00:43:54.100 to do some things that

00:43:55.320 are tough in some

00:43:56.200 cases.

00:43:58.780 Because, yeah, when

00:43:59.760 you're deporting, you

00:44:01.820 know, sex offenders and

00:44:03.240 drug dealers, that's,

00:44:05.040 that's very easy.

00:44:06.100 Any rational person can

00:44:07.400 agree.

00:44:07.680 Get those people out.

00:44:08.420 They're not sympathetic

00:44:09.040 at all.

00:44:10.480 Absolutely.

00:44:12.060 When you've got drug

00:44:12.920 traffickers on a boat

00:44:13.880 and you can just blow them

00:44:16.640 out of the, just, just

00:44:17.760 blow them up from a

00:44:18.700 drone.

00:44:19.140 Go ahead and do that.

00:44:20.160 Fine.

00:44:20.860 Sounds good.

00:44:21.460 Yeah, going in and

00:44:25.160 taking out like a

00:44:25.820 whole, taking a whole

00:44:27.300 family, dragging them

00:44:28.340 into a, to a bus or a

00:44:30.500 van, taking them back to

00:44:32.400 their home country when

00:44:34.400 they haven't committed any

00:44:35.140 other crimes aside from

00:44:36.140 coming here in the first

00:44:36.880 place.

00:44:38.880 I'll be the first to

00:44:39.700 admit, yeah, that's,

00:44:40.260 that's a little ugly.

00:44:41.260 That could get a bit

00:44:42.000 ugly, but it needs to be

00:44:43.600 done.

00:44:45.320 Leaders have to do

00:44:46.100 ugly things sometimes.

00:44:47.040 And when you've got a

00:44:50.540 really ugly situation,

00:44:51.940 such as the collapse of

00:44:53.920 our national identity and

00:44:55.760 sovereignty, our economy

00:44:59.280 and everything that's

00:45:00.360 being caused by this, you

00:45:02.040 got an ugly situation

00:45:03.080 while the only solutions

00:45:04.160 are also ugly.

00:45:06.540 There are no pretty

00:45:07.640 solutions to ugly

00:45:08.660 situations.

00:45:09.360 They don't exist.

00:45:12.160 So go do it.

00:45:14.880 Expel the Fordham

00:45:15.800 students from our

00:45:16.700 universities, especially

00:45:17.640 Chinese students.

00:45:18.540 That was another thing

00:45:19.040 that came up in this

00:45:19.600 interview.

00:45:20.640 Trump was trying to

00:45:21.200 explain why we need to

00:45:21.880 bring in these foreign

00:45:22.600 students from China, 600,000

00:45:24.260 Chinese students who come

00:45:26.780 here to our universities and

00:45:27.980 then go back to their own

00:45:28.840 countries.

00:45:30.020 So they're taking advantage

00:45:31.140 of the education here and

00:45:32.320 then, and then going back to

00:45:33.760 their own country.

00:45:36.940 Why would we allow that?

00:45:38.000 What's in it for us?

00:45:40.640 What's in it for us?

00:45:42.440 Why would we ever allow

00:45:43.440 that?

00:45:46.700 What are we, just being

00:45:47.300 good sports?

00:45:51.940 And look, if Trump won't

00:45:53.760 do it, then who will?

00:45:56.460 And the worst case scenario

00:45:57.720 for Trump is that he is

00:45:59.160 despised by everybody on the

00:46:00.560 left, which has already

00:46:01.280 happened.

00:46:01.880 Can't be undone.

00:46:03.320 Won't change.

00:46:05.540 But he doesn't take his own

00:46:06.680 agenda all the way and ends

00:46:08.200 up demoralizing his own

00:46:09.480 supporters.

00:46:09.980 And then this whole thing

00:46:10.960 ends, you know, like it did

00:46:12.360 in 2020, basically, with just

00:46:14.380 total demoralization and

00:46:16.140 chaos.

00:46:17.920 Except there won't be another

00:46:18.960 shot this time around.

00:46:21.880 There's not going to be a

00:46:22.700 third term.

00:46:24.620 There won't be another go

00:46:25.500 round.

00:46:26.680 And that's that's the worst

00:46:28.120 case scenario.

00:46:31.020 All right.

00:46:31.860 Barron's dot com reports a

00:46:33.280 country music song featuring

00:46:35.460 a male singer's voice generated

00:46:37.120 by artificial intelligence

00:46:38.420 reached the top of the U.S.

00:46:39.600 charts for the first time this

00:46:40.640 week, Walk My Walk by Breaking

00:46:42.920 Rust, an artist with no

00:46:44.680 identity but widely reported

00:46:46.180 by U.S.

00:46:46.660 media to be powered by

00:46:47.560 generative AI technology, made

00:46:49.840 it to the top spot on

00:46:50.800 Billboard magazine's chart

00:46:51.980 ranking digital sales of

00:46:53.600 country songs, according to

00:46:54.600 data published on Monday.

00:46:57.120 AI generated songs are

00:46:58.540 creeping onto music charts and

00:46:59.580 various scenes and country

00:47:00.740 music is no exception.

00:47:06.120 So.

00:47:07.880 Allegedly, this is like a hit

00:47:09.580 song now.

00:47:11.360 And we've heard this story

00:47:13.080 before, by the way, about AI

00:47:14.280 songs that are there are big

00:47:15.460 hit songs.

00:47:16.380 They're topping the charts.

00:47:17.740 And a lot of times that has

00:47:18.840 turned out to be not exactly

00:47:20.140 true.

00:47:21.100 In this case, I think it is.

00:47:23.680 But before we talk about that,

00:47:24.860 let's play.

00:47:26.480 Just so you know what we're

00:47:27.320 talking about.

00:47:28.180 And I know you're curious as I

00:47:30.740 was.

00:47:32.240 So here is this

00:47:34.580 AI song.

00:47:36.060 Listen to it.

00:47:36.460 I've been beat down, but I don't

00:47:47.360 stay low.

00:47:49.620 Got mud on my jeans, still ready to go.

00:47:53.320 Every scar's a story that I survived.

00:47:58.700 I've been through hell, but I'm still alive.

00:48:02.180 They said, slow down, boy.

00:48:05.580 Don't go too fast.

00:48:07.720 But I ain't never been one to live in the past.

00:48:10.900 I keep moving forward, never looking back.

00:48:14.500 With a worn out hat and a six string string.

00:48:17.340 You can kick rocks if you don't like how I talk.

00:48:23.280 I'm going to keep on talking and walk my walk.

00:48:26.620 Ain't changing my tone.

00:48:28.320 Ain't changing my song.

00:48:30.040 I was born this way.

00:48:31.680 Been laughing for long.

00:48:32.120 So that's the song.

00:48:35.920 It sounds real in that it does sound like a

00:48:39.820 human singing.

00:48:41.400 That's the scary part.

00:48:43.940 If I heard that, I mean, it sounds like a

00:48:46.280 person.

00:48:47.340 AI music, even, I mean, we did a segment where

00:48:51.260 we played AI songs, I don't know, less than a

00:48:55.920 year ago, and they all sounded, they sounded

00:48:58.940 like AI, and this does not.

00:49:01.200 I mean, it sounds like a person.

00:49:03.280 It's also totally soulless and empty.

00:49:06.880 I mean, it sounds like a song from like a Jeep

00:49:08.660 Wrangler commercial or something.

00:49:10.620 It's like a song from a network TV.

00:49:14.840 It's like the soundtrack of a network TV

00:49:17.200 cop show that plays at 9 p.m.

00:49:19.980 on a Tuesday on CBS, like that kind of

00:49:21.960 thing, totally devoid of any artistry or soul or

00:49:25.640 meaning or human talent.

00:49:28.480 And yet, allegedly, this song is some kind of

00:49:30.900 hit.

00:49:31.460 And as I said, I've heard these claims before.

00:49:33.240 Oh, it's a hit song made by AI, topping the

00:49:36.180 charts.

00:49:37.540 And often it turns out to not exactly be true.

00:49:39.180 But in this case, I looked up this quote-unquote

00:49:41.200 artist on Spotify.

00:49:43.360 It has over 2 million monthly views on Spotify,

00:49:47.180 apparently.

00:49:50.740 So 2 million, or listeners rather, 2 million, 2 million

00:49:54.860 monthly listeners on Spotify, which is deeply

00:49:59.920 depressing.

00:50:00.380 I mean, it is an outrage, honestly.

00:50:07.300 I just, I hate everyone who listened to this song

00:50:10.500 unironically.

00:50:11.960 Everyone who listened to it, unless out of a sense of

00:50:15.880 morbid curiosity, as we just did.

00:50:17.380 But anyone who's like an actual listener.

00:50:22.200 And I found this on YouTube, and there were

00:50:23.740 comments.

00:50:25.700 And even some, many of the comments are probably

00:50:27.440 bots and AI, so who knows what's real anymore?

00:50:29.520 That's the world we live in.

00:50:30.940 But there were a lot of comments saying, oh, this is

00:50:32.560 actually pretty good.

00:50:33.860 This is not too bad.

00:50:34.880 I kind of like this.

00:50:38.400 And I'm just thinking, I, like an actual fan of

00:50:42.620 this soul-sucking AI dystopian slop.

00:50:46.000 I just, well, I don't hate.

00:50:50.020 I can't, I don't, I don't hate you.

00:50:51.460 Hate is too strong a word.

00:50:52.380 I'm Christian.

00:50:52.840 I don't hate anybody.

00:50:54.380 So I, hate is not the word.

00:50:57.000 I find you, if you would listen to that and say,

00:51:00.520 oh, this is pretty good, but not too bad at all.

00:51:03.280 Hey, why not?

00:51:05.260 AI music, just as good as any other.

00:51:08.200 Who cares if it was made by an algorithm?

00:51:11.760 Who cares if some soulless algorithm is just

00:51:13.980 pumping this into my empty skull?

00:51:17.680 It's not too bad.

00:51:18.700 I mean, I, I don't hate you.

00:51:19.860 If I don't, I don't.

00:51:20.780 But I, I, I, I resent you and I have no,

00:51:24.500 I have no respect for you, but I don't hate you.

00:51:27.340 I hate AI.

00:51:28.800 That I do hate.

00:51:31.960 If I could commit an AI genocide, I totally would.

00:51:35.660 In the future, if there are AI robots walking around,

00:51:38.660 everybody thinks they have souls, even though they don't

00:51:41.900 and they never can, I will be like the bad guy in the movie

00:51:45.480 hatching an evil plot to just kill them all.

00:51:48.860 I will be an AI, anti-AI Genghis Khan,

00:51:52.300 just killing entire country's worth of these robots.

00:51:58.760 An anti-AI Pol Pot.

00:52:01.240 Yes, an anti-AI Hitler.

00:52:02.520 I'll finally be, all the people calling me Hitler

00:52:04.900 will finally be proven right

00:52:05.980 as I carry out my genocide of the robots.

00:52:10.400 That's how much I hate it.

00:52:13.160 Of course, I'm saying all of this,

00:52:16.400 which is, so, so what that actually means

00:52:18.400 is that I'll be the first person

00:52:19.980 that the robots come and kill or enslave,

00:52:22.380 so I'll never get a chance.

00:52:23.180 This is all just a fantasy that will never actually happen.

00:52:26.260 What will really happen is that while I'm eating my breakfast,

00:52:28.460 they'll just, a drone, AI drone will snipe me

00:52:31.140 through the window, and that's what's actually going to happen.

00:52:35.440 So anyway, the point is,

00:52:37.700 AI music is the death of the soul.

00:52:40.820 AI art is impossible.

00:52:42.560 It can't exist.

00:52:44.640 AI can kill art.

00:52:45.720 It can wipe it out, but it can't do art.

00:52:48.760 It can't perform or produce art.

00:52:53.080 And that's because art is all about

00:52:54.880 what it means to be human.

00:52:56.960 Like we said yesterday, art is the creation of beauty.

00:53:00.260 It conveys beauty.

00:53:01.600 It conveys meaning.

00:53:03.700 You can't have beauty without meaning.

00:53:07.040 And algorithms cannot create beauty or convey meaning.

00:53:11.980 Algorithms have no minds.

00:53:13.700 They have no souls.

00:53:14.500 They have no consciousness.

00:53:15.680 So when I think about this, this possible future,

00:53:20.840 which is coming, it's coming faster than even I thought,

00:53:26.300 uh, with AI, AI, AI art in particular.

00:53:32.240 I mean, if we're already at the point where one of these AI,

00:53:35.540 quote unquote, artists has 2 million monthly listeners on Spotify,

00:53:39.660 then I think we are, I mean, maybe I would have thought five years away.

00:53:45.140 I think we're a year away at most from having a, you know,

00:53:50.700 from having a situation where the charts really are dominated by just this.

00:53:54.320 And, um, and when I think about that, like who, who could,

00:54:03.780 how could, could we really get to it?

00:54:08.200 Can we really get to a point where the mass of people in this country,

00:54:11.980 in our culture are willing to consume this, where they know that it's AI,

00:54:17.180 they know that it was produced by an algorithm.

00:54:19.160 Um, they, it was produced by something that has no mind and no soul

00:54:23.640 and is not trying to convey anything to you.

00:54:27.580 Well, we really get to a point where the mass of people

00:54:30.380 will just consume that anyway.

00:54:34.320 Choose it.

00:54:35.040 It's eating at their souls, killing them inside and they will eat it anyway.

00:54:39.960 Well, we really get to that point.

00:54:41.140 And, uh,

00:54:42.780 I think the only way we'll get there

00:54:47.220 because I, I don't, I don't know.

00:54:50.560 I don't think the mass of people could really like consume AI,

00:54:56.820 listen to AI music,

00:54:58.840 watch a totally AI generated film from start to, you know,

00:55:02.560 a 95 minute movie.

00:55:04.340 It was completely generated by AI.

00:55:07.840 I think the only way people can get there where they're willing to do that

00:55:11.000 is if they've convinced themselves

00:55:13.640 that actually this art is conveying meaning

00:55:18.300 because the AI does have a soul

00:55:20.740 and it is trying to like tell them something.

00:55:26.120 If there's anyone that actually likes AI music right now,

00:55:28.960 I think that's probably why they like it

00:55:30.560 because they've convinced themselves,

00:55:32.460 oh, you know,

00:55:34.060 wow,

00:55:35.480 this algorithm has a soul.

00:55:37.400 This is its,

00:55:37.860 its soulfulness coming through.

00:55:41.000 And that's a scary thought.

00:55:46.820 That's a scary thought.

00:55:49.060 Um,

00:55:49.660 when we get to a point where most people begin to believe

00:55:52.180 that this stuff is like conscious.

00:55:57.040 And the other interesting thing is,

00:55:58.440 as I talk about AI,

00:55:59.580 you know,

00:55:59.760 AI is the battle of the future.

00:56:01.860 It just is.

00:56:03.380 I think there are a lot of the things,

00:56:04.720 a lot of things we're arguing about right now

00:56:06.380 that five years from now will be totally irrelevant.

00:56:08.620 It just won't matter at all.

00:56:11.000 And this is the battle of the future.

00:56:15.360 But I think one,

00:56:16.520 one of the reasons why it's not being taken

00:56:19.360 nearly as seriously as it should be

00:56:23.120 is that the political battle lines

00:56:25.520 have not been drawn around it yet

00:56:27.400 from what I can see.

00:56:28.660 So it's,

00:56:31.860 this is,

00:56:32.660 this is one thing,

00:56:34.820 one of the only things right now

00:56:36.860 in the culture,

00:56:38.080 and it's a huge thing,

00:56:39.680 but it's one of the only things where

00:56:41.900 you don't know

00:56:43.660 whose team

00:56:45.560 you're on.

00:56:47.320 If you're anti-AI,

00:56:49.020 is that the conservative position?

00:56:50.780 Are you,

00:56:51.120 or is it the liberal position?

00:56:53.940 Well,

00:56:54.420 the answer is it's kind of neither.

00:56:55.480 It should be the conservative position.

00:57:00.880 This should be something

00:57:02.180 that conservatives are rallying around.

00:57:05.940 That AI is a problem.

00:57:07.920 It needs to be contained.

00:57:09.340 It needs to be regulated.

00:57:10.280 We need laws around it.

00:57:11.180 We need to protect people.

00:57:13.120 That should be the conservative position,

00:57:14.940 but it doesn't seem to be.

00:57:16.680 Because conservatives also have

00:57:19.360 this other part of them

00:57:20.360 pulling them towards

00:57:21.600 just accepting the AI takeover

00:57:23.600 because that's the,

00:57:24.620 that's the part of them that says,

00:57:25.780 you know,

00:57:26.140 free market capitalism

00:57:28.080 is a religion

00:57:29.600 and we must always abide by it

00:57:31.280 no matter what.

00:57:32.040 And putting anything in place

00:57:34.240 to control these trillion dollar companies

00:57:36.520 that are creating this stuff

00:57:37.680 is bad.

00:57:38.460 We can't do it.

00:57:40.060 And so that's kind of the war

00:57:41.320 going on inside the minds

00:57:42.760 of most conservatives.

00:57:43.580 And I think that a lot of them

00:57:45.620 don't really know

00:57:46.240 where to fall on this.

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00:59:17.460 You know,

00:59:24.280 it's long been known

00:59:25.020 that leftists have read

00:59:26.320 precisely two books,

00:59:27.600 no more, no less.

00:59:28.840 Out of hundreds of millions

00:59:29.940 of English language works

00:59:31.020 of literature,

00:59:31.720 leftists have only read

00:59:32.760 Harry Potter as children

00:59:33.980 and as adults

00:59:35.360 and The Handmaid's Tale

00:59:37.140 as adults, hopefully.

00:59:39.740 And that's it.

00:59:40.840 A liberal's library

00:59:42.160 could fit inside a porta potty.

00:59:43.800 And if you want to understand

00:59:45.020 a leftist worldview,

00:59:45.940 that's an important fact

00:59:47.580 to comprehend.

00:59:48.860 They don't know anything

00:59:49.460 about history

00:59:50.540 because they don't read

00:59:51.260 history books.

00:59:51.820 They don't know anything

00:59:52.360 about good storytelling

00:59:53.280 because they're addicted

00:59:54.020 to Netflix.

00:59:55.200 And they're not creative thinkers,

00:59:56.380 nor are they familiar

00:59:57.060 with the concept of nuance

00:59:58.100 because their minds

00:59:58.860 have been dulled

00:59:59.720 by decades of constant exposure

01:00:01.420 to streaming services

01:00:02.620 and cable news propaganda.

01:00:05.000 Reading requires

01:00:05.840 and inspires patience

01:00:07.220 and contemplation.

01:00:08.920 And in general,

01:00:09.820 the left don't have time

01:00:11.380 for either of those things.

01:00:13.020 And rather than address

01:00:13.800 this obvious vulnerability,

01:00:15.020 say by encouraging

01:00:16.220 their audience

01:00:16.720 to open a new book

01:00:17.600 for once in their lives,

01:00:19.060 left-wing media

01:00:19.780 have decided

01:00:21.120 to double down on this.

01:00:22.800 They've continued

01:00:23.540 to obsess over these two books

01:00:25.140 and their authors

01:00:25.800 because it's the only way

01:00:27.480 they can relate

01:00:27.900 to their audience.

01:00:29.040 And that brings us

01:00:29.620 to this recent segment

01:00:30.660 on 60 Minutes

01:00:31.820 in which the 85-year-old

01:00:33.180 feminist author

01:00:33.840 Margaret Atwood,

01:00:34.800 who wrote The Handmaid's Tale,

01:00:36.060 is once again warning

01:00:38.280 about the imminent dangers

01:00:39.440 of fascism and Trump

01:00:40.980 and all of that.

01:00:41.760 Now, 10 years ago,

01:00:43.320 you could maybe,

01:00:45.080 to some degree,

01:00:45.600 see the appeal

01:00:46.180 of promoting somebody

01:00:46.980 like Margaret Atwood

01:00:47.720 from a left-wing perspective.

01:00:49.480 They needed to fearmonger

01:00:50.620 about what the first

01:00:51.200 Trump administration

01:00:51.760 was going to do,

01:00:52.740 about how women

01:00:54.040 all over the country

01:00:54.720 will be subjugated

01:00:55.880 and forced to cover

01:00:56.780 their entire bodies

01:00:57.560 sort of like they do

01:00:58.260 in Afghanistan

01:00:58.800 or Minneapolis.

01:01:00.360 So they dug up

01:01:01.600 Atwood's 1985

01:01:02.580 dystopian novel,

01:01:03.640 turned it into a six-season

01:01:04.600 Hulu series

01:01:05.380 beginning in 2017,

01:01:06.500 and gave it every,

01:01:07.960 you know,

01:01:09.100 Emmy award in existence.

01:01:10.700 That was the gambit.

01:01:12.520 And it obviously

01:01:13.080 didn't work

01:01:13.580 for the same reason

01:01:14.260 that climate scientists

01:01:15.200 failed to convince America

01:01:16.260 that a new ice age

01:01:17.280 was going to destroy

01:01:17.880 the planet in the 1970s.

01:01:19.280 With the passage of time,

01:01:20.260 it became abundantly clear

01:01:21.200 that Margaret Atwood

01:01:22.080 had no idea

01:01:23.020 what she was talking about,

01:01:24.420 just like the climate scientists.

01:01:26.500 So you'd think by now

01:01:27.260 everybody would have moved on.

01:01:29.160 The ship has sailed

01:01:29.980 on this particular

01:01:30.720 fear-mongering technique,

01:01:32.520 but 60 minutes

01:01:33.760 under the new leadership

01:01:34.700 of Barry Weiss

01:01:35.340 apparently disagrees.

01:01:37.000 They've decided to

01:01:38.060 go back to the well

01:01:39.380 one more time,

01:01:40.900 and here's how

01:01:42.060 that segment began.

01:01:43.760 This week on 60 Minutes,

01:01:45.260 we sit down with

01:01:46.060 Canada's best-known author,

01:01:47.440 Margaret Atwood.

01:01:48.600 Now 85,

01:01:50.000 she has published

01:01:50.600 64 books and counting,

01:01:52.700 including the best-selling

01:01:53.640 The Handmaid's Tale.

01:01:55.200 Under his eye.

01:01:56.320 Under his eye.

01:01:57.520 Published in 1985,

01:01:58.980 The Handmaid's Tale

01:01:59.940 depicts a near-future America

01:02:01.940 overtaken by religious

01:02:03.460 dictatorship,

01:02:04.060 where a dwindling number

01:02:05.800 of fertile women

01:02:06.680 are forced to cloak

01:02:07.820 themselves in red

01:02:08.780 and bear children

01:02:10.140 for the elite.

01:02:11.280 The book would sell

01:02:12.040 more than 10 million copies

01:02:13.560 and spawn an Emmy-winning

01:02:15.120 Hulu series.

01:02:16.140 These are rare books.

01:02:17.800 At the Thomas Fisher

01:02:19.120 Rare Book Library

01:02:20.140 in Toronto,

01:02:21.240 Atwood has archived

01:02:22.340 stacks of her research.

01:02:24.220 That is,

01:02:24.840 the hundreds of news clippings

01:02:26.300 that substantiate her plots.

01:02:28.400 Women forced to have babies.

01:02:30.120 Mm-hmm.

01:02:31.480 Communists are making

01:02:32.500 women have babies.

01:02:34.060 Persistent non-pregnancy

01:02:35.620 will be considered

01:02:36.460 a crime against the state.

01:02:38.540 I did get a tweet

01:02:40.140 which the guy said,

01:02:41.920 how does Margaret Atwood

01:02:43.400 make up this weird shit?

01:02:45.500 And I said,

01:02:46.620 it's not me making up

01:02:48.680 this weird shit,

01:02:49.620 it's the human race.

01:02:51.200 Love!

01:02:52.060 Love!

01:02:53.020 Love!

01:02:53.500 Love!

01:02:53.580 Love!

01:02:54.860 So we're in the Cold War here.

01:02:57.120 I was very interested

01:02:58.280 in totalitarianisms

01:03:00.080 and I was very interested

01:03:01.500 in how they get that way.

01:03:03.900 But Harvard,

01:03:04.780 you know,

01:03:05.420 I didn't like hearing people

01:03:06.980 say it can't happen here

01:03:08.700 because anything can happen

01:03:10.760 anywhere given the circumstances.

01:03:13.460 So right off the bat,

01:03:14.540 we have a narrative violation here.

01:03:16.340 She's supposed to say

01:03:17.020 that Donald Trump

01:03:17.680 and the Republicans

01:03:18.280 are bringing back fascism

01:03:19.500 and all that

01:03:19.980 and that's what every leftist

01:03:21.680 who's seen the Hulu show

01:03:22.600 is expecting.

01:03:23.260 And indeed,

01:03:24.060 later on in the interview,

01:03:24.860 she does get into that.

01:03:26.260 She blames Reagan

01:03:27.060 and the religious right.

01:03:28.380 But at the start of the segment,

01:03:30.040 it's not what happens.

01:03:30.600 Instead,

01:03:30.860 she shows the news clipping

01:03:31.920 that she used for inspiration

01:03:33.180 and she says that the idea

01:03:34.140 of mandatory pregnancy

01:03:35.060 was based on an old

01:03:35.860 communist policy.

01:03:37.620 And obviously,

01:03:38.220 if there's a side

01:03:39.020 of the American political spectrum

01:03:40.120 that worships Soviet-style

01:03:41.560 communism at the moment,

01:03:42.720 it's not the Trump administration.

01:03:44.460 So,

01:03:45.080 that's a little awkward,

01:03:47.200 but the point is,

01:03:48.360 according to Margaret Atwood,

01:03:49.920 something similar

01:03:50.440 could happen in America

01:03:51.320 because, quote,

01:03:52.080 anything can happen anywhere.

01:03:53.900 But how exactly

01:03:54.780 could the same thing

01:03:55.520 happen in America?

01:03:56.620 It's been nearly a decade

01:03:57.480 since Trump's first term began.

01:04:00.260 What exactly are the signs

01:04:01.700 that we're about to have

01:04:02.540 mandatory pregnancy laws

01:04:03.900 or anything like that?

01:04:05.940 Well,

01:04:06.100 it takes a few minutes,

01:04:06.700 but eventually,

01:04:07.120 this segment gets around

01:04:07.940 to answering that question

01:04:09.040 or at least attempting to.

01:04:10.720 They show Margaret Atwood

01:04:11.860 shooting a flamethrower

01:04:13.140 at a fireproof version

01:04:14.660 of her book.

01:04:15.160 And then they portray her

01:04:17.060 as a victim

01:04:18.280 of these mythical book bannings.

01:04:21.460 Watch.

01:04:23.120 Here she is

01:04:24.340 taking a flamethrower

01:04:25.480 to her own book.

01:04:27.240 Atwood was firing back

01:04:28.700 at would-be book burners

01:04:30.260 by torching

01:04:31.280 an unburnable edition.

01:04:33.360 It was all promotion

01:04:34.440 for a charity auction

01:04:35.620 to benefit Pan America,

01:04:37.380 a non-profit

01:04:38.120 that champions free speech.

01:04:41.360 Atwood's books

01:04:42.220 have been banned

01:04:42.840 for content deemed

01:04:44.040 overly sexual

01:04:45.040 morally corrupt,

01:04:46.440 anti-Christian.

01:04:47.660 She told us

01:04:48.500 she was particularly peeved

01:04:49.940 when a recent ban

01:04:50.900 came from Edmonton, Alberta

01:04:52.480 in her own country.

01:04:53.920 The government

01:04:54.520 put out an edict

01:04:55.640 to all school boards

01:04:57.320 saying that they couldn't

01:04:58.160 have any books

01:04:58.740 in the library

01:04:59.480 that had either direct

01:05:01.380 or indirect sex.

01:05:03.300 What is indirect sex?

01:05:04.780 You've had any indirect sex lately?

01:05:10.560 Now, just out of a morbid

01:05:12.240 sense of curiosity

01:05:13.020 because you can't trust

01:05:14.000 anything that airs

01:05:14.780 on 60 Minutes

01:05:15.480 or CBS News,

01:05:16.820 I looked into this

01:05:17.500 alleged book banning

01:05:18.580 that the government

01:05:19.340 of Alberta

01:05:19.900 was supposedly

01:05:21.120 engaging in.

01:05:22.460 As it turns out,

01:05:23.620 as you may have guessed,

01:05:24.580 it was an example

01:05:25.340 of malicious compliance.

01:05:26.680 Essentially what happened

01:05:27.480 is that the premier

01:05:28.400 of Alberta,

01:05:29.520 Danielle Smith,

01:05:30.680 wanted to ban

01:05:31.340 pornographic books

01:05:32.480 from school libraries.

01:05:34.300 Which makes sense.

01:05:35.780 So she told the school board

01:05:37.140 to remove books

01:05:38.240 that were not age appropriate

01:05:39.600 because they contained

01:05:40.900 sexually graphic content

01:05:41.940 including so-called LGBT books

01:05:43.440 that are really

01:05:44.200 a form of grooming.

01:05:45.280 And in response,

01:05:45.940 the Edmonton Public School Board,

01:05:47.400 which is made up of leftists,

01:05:48.960 decided to ban

01:05:49.920 1984,

01:05:51.560 The Godfather,

01:05:52.760 Jaws,

01:05:53.500 and so on

01:05:54.060 in addition to

01:05:54.600 The Handmaid's Tale.

01:05:56.120 So,

01:05:56.800 they deliberately misread

01:05:58.440 the government's directive

01:05:59.360 to make a point.

01:06:00.480 They banned

01:06:01.020 the book

01:06:01.580 along with some classics

01:06:02.520 in order to

01:06:03.600 cook up a pretext

01:06:05.180 for book bans.

01:06:06.300 And of course,

01:06:06.840 Margaret Atwood

01:06:07.340 was happy to play the victim.

01:06:09.160 This is from CBC News.

01:06:10.560 Quote,

01:06:11.180 Alberta premier

01:06:11.840 Danielle Smith

01:06:12.740 slammed the Edmonton

01:06:13.700 Public School Board

01:06:14.300 Friday morning

01:06:14.900 for its banned book list,

01:06:16.280 which features

01:06:17.020 more than 200 titles.

01:06:18.160 Edmonton Public is

01:06:19.040 clearly doing

01:06:19.920 a little vicious compliance

01:06:21.020 over what the direction is,

01:06:22.340 Smith said.

01:06:23.220 The point of this book

01:06:23.880 is to keep graphic,

01:06:25.080 sexually explicit content

01:06:25.980 out of elementary schools,

01:06:27.160 she said.

01:06:28.000 If they need us

01:06:28.560 to hold their hand

01:06:29.380 through the process

01:06:29.880 to identify

01:06:30.360 what kind of materials

01:06:31.080 are appropriate,

01:06:32.040 we will more than happily

01:06:32.820 work with them

01:06:33.560 to work through their list

01:06:34.760 one by one

01:06:35.420 so we can be super clear

01:06:36.720 about what it is

01:06:37.620 we're trying to do.

01:06:39.220 So that was several months ago.

01:06:40.260 The government of Alberta

01:06:41.080 clarified the ban,

01:06:42.920 and everybody now

01:06:43.540 fully understands

01:06:44.260 that it only applies

01:06:45.120 to graphic images

01:06:45.960 of sexual content

01:06:47.080 and does not include books

01:06:48.960 like The Handmaid's Tale.

01:06:49.960 But all of those details

01:06:51.120 are apparently missing

01:06:52.120 from the 60-minute segment,

01:06:53.700 so we're left with

01:06:54.500 the fake victim narrative

01:06:55.840 when it's not even

01:06:56.960 remotely accurate.

01:06:58.400 But really,

01:06:59.040 this is all a moot point

01:06:59.800 because even if

01:07:00.580 The Handmaid's Tale

01:07:01.260 were still banned

01:07:02.720 in Alberta public schools,

01:07:04.460 the segment still

01:07:05.460 wouldn't make any sense

01:07:06.360 for two reasons.

01:07:07.140 First of all,

01:07:07.800 the book is about

01:07:08.480 a rape ritual.

01:07:09.780 It is perverse

01:07:10.680 and it's a political work

01:07:13.320 of feminism.

01:07:13.740 It's also bad literature,

01:07:15.620 just a bad book.

01:07:16.740 It's not well written.

01:07:17.640 It's not,

01:07:18.620 Margaret Atwood

01:07:19.280 is not a good author.

01:07:20.620 She just writes pulpy trash.

01:07:22.160 That's what she does.

01:07:23.540 And so it's completely normal

01:07:26.020 for a parent

01:07:26.800 to want to keep

01:07:27.580 that kind of garbage

01:07:28.740 out of their child's

01:07:29.640 school library.

01:07:30.400 It's like any of the trash

01:07:33.020 books you see

01:07:34.380 like in an airport,

01:07:35.580 right,

01:07:36.340 for middle-aged women

01:07:37.660 to read on the flight.

01:07:39.360 You're not going to put

01:07:40.040 that stuff in a school

01:07:40.980 library for kids.

01:07:43.120 A lot of the times

01:07:44.040 the material is not appropriate,

01:07:45.920 but also it has no

01:07:47.140 artistic value.

01:07:48.680 It has no literary value.

01:07:50.400 And, you know,

01:07:54.000 you can't have every book

01:07:56.100 in existence

01:07:56.560 in a school library.

01:07:57.480 Only a small number

01:07:58.260 can be in the library.

01:08:00.820 And that's because,

01:08:02.260 more importantly,

01:08:02.980 removing a book

01:08:03.820 from a school library

01:08:04.740 is not banning the book

01:08:06.300 because the book

01:08:07.500 is available

01:08:08.040 literally everywhere else.

01:08:11.380 Okay,

01:08:11.920 so if Handmaid's Tale

01:08:12.940 is banned

01:08:13.660 because it's not

01:08:14.300 in a school library,

01:08:15.180 then that means

01:08:16.140 that almost every book

01:08:17.460 that's ever been written

01:08:18.680 is banned

01:08:20.040 because almost none

01:08:21.900 of them are

01:08:22.500 in school libraries.

01:08:25.980 So,

01:08:26.660 when she says banned,

01:08:28.080 if by banned

01:08:28.980 she means

01:08:29.640 the book is available

01:08:30.620 everywhere that books

01:08:31.640 are sold

01:08:32.080 and has been obsessively

01:08:32.920 promoted by every

01:08:33.780 major media outlet

01:08:34.500 for decades,

01:08:35.160 adapted into six seasons

01:08:36.200 of a streaming show

01:08:36.920 on Hulu,

01:08:37.440 and not actually banned

01:08:38.700 at any store

01:08:39.180 in any form at all,

01:08:40.460 then yeah,

01:08:41.140 the book has definitely

01:08:42.020 been banned.

01:08:43.420 If by banned

01:08:44.400 she means

01:08:44.960 you can buy the book

01:08:45.780 in paperback,

01:08:46.500 hardcover,

01:08:46.940 or Kindle on Amazon

01:08:47.860 right now

01:08:48.560 for $9,

01:08:50.180 then yeah,

01:08:51.500 it's banned.

01:08:53.040 If by banned

01:08:53.900 she means

01:08:54.280 you can buy it

01:08:54.980 right now

01:08:55.340 and have it

01:08:55.700 show up

01:08:56.080 on your doorstep

01:08:56.980 in 12 hours

01:08:58.180 for $9,

01:08:59.920 then yeah,

01:09:01.280 it's a banned book.

01:09:03.280 But unfortunately

01:09:03.960 for CBS News

01:09:04.680 and Market Atwood,

01:09:05.660 that's not what

01:09:06.740 the word banned

01:09:07.540 actually means.

01:09:09.440 So,

01:09:10.080 what are we doing

01:09:11.280 here exactly?

01:09:12.940 You know,

01:09:13.240 this banned books

01:09:14.080 narrative on the left

01:09:15.100 has endured.

01:09:15.960 It's one of the most

01:09:17.200 enduring narratives.

01:09:18.740 Even though it makes

01:09:19.680 no sense,

01:09:20.540 it is not even

01:09:21.120 close to true.

01:09:22.380 It has never been true.

01:09:24.100 This has never

01:09:24.760 actually happened.

01:09:25.600 It's all made up.

01:09:27.900 But it's just another way

01:09:29.040 for washed up

01:09:29.880 liberal boomers

01:09:30.620 like Margaret Atwood

01:09:31.560 to cosplay

01:09:32.360 as persecuted revolutionaries

01:09:33.740 long after every

01:09:34.660 sane person

01:09:35.240 has forgotten about them.

01:09:37.160 So at this point,

01:09:37.940 if I can offer

01:09:39.540 some unsolicited advice

01:09:40.620 to the left,

01:09:41.240 it would be this.

01:09:43.640 Read another book.

01:09:44.740 Find any other book.

01:09:48.820 I honestly don't care.

01:09:50.940 Any book

01:09:51.640 besides Handmaid's Tale

01:09:53.120 or Harry Potter.

01:09:55.740 Just find a third book

01:09:57.460 that you can fixate on.

01:10:00.300 Any book.

01:10:01.080 I beg you.

01:10:02.440 Don't say another word

01:10:03.420 about Harry Potter

01:10:04.220 and J.K. Rowling

01:10:05.240 or The Handmaid's Tale

01:10:06.160 or Margaret Atwood.

01:10:09.040 There are more books

01:10:10.240 out there.

01:10:10.660 Like, I don't know

01:10:12.740 if you knew that

01:10:13.180 but there are actually more.

01:10:14.340 There are more than two books

01:10:15.440 that have ever been written.

01:10:17.820 And unlike Harry Potter

01:10:19.120 and The Handmaid's Tale,

01:10:20.040 some of those other books

01:10:21.200 are actually good.

01:10:23.540 And if you read those books,

01:10:24.920 they can even help you

01:10:25.900 make more clever

01:10:26.980 and timely analogies

01:10:28.280 which you can use

01:10:30.700 in political arguments

01:10:31.660 in the future.

01:10:33.720 That's one of the benefits

01:10:34.680 of doing a lot of reading.

01:10:35.800 But as it stands,

01:10:38.340 you might say

01:10:38.780 that the left is

01:10:39.640 a lot like Captain Ahab

01:10:41.680 and Moby Dick.

01:10:43.300 They're endlessly chasing

01:10:44.820 the white whale

01:10:45.940 of right-wing totalitarianism,

01:10:48.280 seeing it around

01:10:49.440 every corner

01:10:50.640 even when it's not there

01:10:52.420 and it's destroying them.

01:10:55.600 And that is why

01:10:56.280 Margaret Atwood,

01:10:57.280 CBS News

01:10:57.880 and every other leftist

01:10:58.980 who's falsely whining

01:10:59.980 about book bans

01:11:00.900 in the year 2025

01:11:01.740 are all today

01:11:03.340 canceled.

01:11:05.160 That'll do it

01:11:05.460 for the show today.

01:11:05.840 Thanks for watching.

01:11:06.280 Thanks for listening.

01:11:06.760 Talk to you tomorrow.

01:11:07.280 Have a great day.

01:11:08.520 Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - November 12, 2025

Ep. 1690 - Why We Need 50 Million Deportations Instead Of 50 Year Mortgages, AI Music Tops The Charts, And More

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