Ep. 1692 - "America Only" Should Not Be Controversial, So Why Is It?
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In this episode of Frontburner, host Jamie Poisson talks about the growing problem of conservative anger at America's leaders focusing on other countries and their problems, and how to deal with it. Plus, a raffle winner is chosen at random and there's still time to win!
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What I think is happening here is that a certain subset of people identifying as conservatives, for whatever reason, don't want our leaders focusing on America.
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And therefore, when someone suggests a change, when someone suggests focusing on America, they get very upset.
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The only country that should matter to our leaders is America.
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Now, you might think that when someone's in the business of talking about politics on a podcast for a living,
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there's a natural temptation to make increasingly outrageous and controversial statements and a bid for attention.
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After all, there's no built-in audience for a podcast, no matter how big or successful it may be.
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Even Joe Rogan doesn't have a guaranteed audience.
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Unlike CNN or MSNBC, no one is forced to listen to any particular podcast in an airport or senior living center or anything like that.
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So, it's conventional wisdom in some circles that podcast hosts are naturally more extreme and unhinged than everyone else
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because if the listeners don't hear something truly shocking or stunning, then they're going to tune out.
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And, you know, there's some truth to that idea.
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But the flip side of the coin is that these days, statements that are not shocking or stunning or even remotely provocative
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are often still treated as such, which means that certain podcast hosts like yours truly
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may earn a reputation as some kind of shock jock, even though they mostly just say pretty normal and sane sorts of things.
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So, for example, last week on this show, I made probably one of the one of the safest and most straightforward statements
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This is a statement that's basically a paraphrase of what the Founding Fathers said many times over.
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For 99% of this country's history, no one would have batted an eye after hearing it.
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And yet, after I made this particular statement, all hell broke loose on social media over the past few days.
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Nearly 6 million people have viewed the footage of my remarks on X
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and there have been thousands of furious and unhinged reactions,
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And those are the responses I want to focus on today.
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So, we're not talking about a media matters-driven outrage cycle here, at least not exclusively.
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I actually can't think of anything I've said recently that's caused more consternation and outrage from conservatives
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Except when I said that conservatives should stop fighting with each other
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and focus on the people who actively want to kill us.
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That was the most controversial thing you could ever say, it turns out.
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But this is a close second place, I think, on the outrage meter.
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Here is the excerpt from my show that evidently is simply intolerable to a significant portion of the right.
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What we want is for someone to unashamedly and single-mindedly advocate for Americans and Americans only.
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We want someone to say, you know, the only thing I care about is helping Americans.
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The only people I care about in the world are Americans.
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And we don't want to just hear that, but we want to see the action taken as well.
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You know, I've seen some people on social media say, hey, it's America first, but not America only.
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It's like I said months ago, I consider myself an American chauvinist.
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America first, America only, I'm an American chauvinist.
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America should be the only thing you care about, especially as a leader of the country.
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Now, you could pull up some speeches from George Washington and read pretty much the same thing.
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Said much more eloquently, but still, it's the same kind of idea.
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Washington said that the great rule for the United States in regard to foreign nations is to, quote,
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have with them as little political connection as possible.
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All the founders wrote that if it benefited the United States, we should trade with other countries.
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We should speak to them if it was in our interest to do so.
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But otherwise, we really shouldn't have anything to do with them at all.
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And if that seems controversial to you, think about the issue in terms of your own family.
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Now, speaking for myself, although I suspect everybody listening to this podcast agrees with me on this,
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you know, I'm America only in the same sort of sense that I am my family only.
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I will never put any other family above my own.
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I will help other families only to the extent that it brings no harm to my own family.
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My family is the only family that I treat as my family because it is my only family.
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There will never be a time when the interests of another family will come before my own.
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If I had to choose between rescuing a thousand strangers from a fire or just one of my children,
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It could be a million strangers that I could rescue or just one of my children, and I will choose my child.
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And I also think that every parent would do the same.
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Now, our leaders are not our parents, and we're not their children, so I hesitate a little bit to make those kinds of analogies.
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They should prioritize their people, Americans, above all other people on earth.
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They should concern themselves with other nations only to the degree that it benefits Americans.
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If they could choose between helping 10 million foreigners or one American family,
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they should choose the American family without hesitation.
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If they could help 10 million foreigners, but it would harm one American family,
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then they should not help those 10 million foreigners.
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This is what it means to be a nation, a people, or what it should mean.
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And from the time George Washington was president, no American,
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no one who truly cared about conserving and protecting this country, disagreed with this.
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Now, from the responses I received over the weekend,
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it is clear that my statements are now considered highly incendiary,
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for stating that our leaders should exclusively prioritize America's interests,
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or perhaps more eager anticipation from other commentators
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who prophesied that I would be fired for that video that I just played.
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Well, if you're hearing this and you're watching it,
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fired from my job for saying that we should prioritize America's interests.
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Nor would it have made much sense if I had been,
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because I've been saying the same thing for many years now,
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Meanwhile, many of the more serious responses to my commentary
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And again, these misrepresentations were not coming from the left.
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when the idea that we should only prioritize our own country's interests
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and that's why I think it's worth talking about.
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So, for example, here was the response from a lawyer named Ethan Isaacson,
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who describes himself as pro-Western civilization.
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And, of course, the problem is that nothing that he wrote
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I didn't say America is the only country that exists on the globe.
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I didn't deny that, you know, some nations will be adversaries
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I also never stated that we should ignore the rest of the world.
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and tries to detonate it on American soil tomorrow,
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On the other hand, if Cuba has some kind of humanitarian crisis,
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because it has no bearing on the United States.
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The only country that should matter to our leaders is America.
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We should only get involved with other countries
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when there is an unequivocal benefit to our own country.
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And that is rarely, though not never, the case.
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And that's the part you're not supposed to say, but it's true.
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That is the one qualifier that we should take into account.
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Now, I used the analogy last week of teams in sports.
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Not a perfect analogy, but it helps make the point,
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you know, that if you're the coach of a football team,
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you would never do anything to help another team
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Now, that doesn't mean that you hate other teams
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doesn't make you a selfish person or a bad Christian.
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And when it comes to our, quote-unquote, allies,
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you know, they all need us more than we need them.
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You cannot name a single ally of the United States
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where they benefit us more than we benefit them.
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And you certainly can't name a single ally of the U.S.
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especially at a time when leftists openly want to murder
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And they're gloating about shooting conservatives in the neck
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Quote, Matt, you can't use the camera or laptop
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Matt, you can't even get antibiotics produced in the U.S.
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Now, this is an example of someone attempting to argue with me,
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but really agreeing with everything I'm saying,
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We need to start producing more antibiotics in this country.
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we get the active ingredients in most antibiotics from China,
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we've experienced substantial shortages of antibiotics
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So we've never been as reliant on foreign antibiotics
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We have the capacity to make antibiotics in this country,
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or at least to source them from somewhere other than China,
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it's usually better to do that in our country if we can.
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I was actually calling for the end of the U.S. dollar
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This is another reply that doesn't make much sense
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Of course, focusing exclusively on America's interests
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Doesn't take the opportunity to boldly stand up
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to the corporate media, which is responsible for
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about a million times more toxic rhetoric than any
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Groveling before this snide, gross news anchor who sits
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That she's talking to a Republican and she makes this point
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where, like, as a CNN anchor, you are so vulnerable making
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There are a million comebacks that Marjorie Taylor Greene could
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Now, there is not any flattering interpretation of this, I'm afraid
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This is not, and this is one of the many problems with all the fighting,
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all the infighting on the right, is that now because Marjorie Taylor
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Greene and President Trump are having a thing, and some people are
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And so the people that are on Marjorie Taylor's Greene side, some
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You went on CNN and apologized for toxic rhetoric on CNN?
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I mean, we all know that's totally unacceptable.
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And there are even some people on the right that are trying to
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You are setting an example, but it's horrendous because the example
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is allowing yourself to be used as a stooge, allowing yourself to be
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Not in a self-effacing, Christ-like, humble sort of manner,
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Entertaining hypocrites, which is what CNN, that's what they are.
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Hypocrites, and hypocrites in the actual definitional sense,
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not hypocrites in the sense of saying one thing and doing another.
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Hypocrite in the sense of claiming to believe something you don't really believe.
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And when CNN gets up there and says, well, all this toxic rhetoric is very troubling,
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And when the hypocrites want him to play a game, he's not going to play it.
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He's not going to sit there and say, well, you're right.
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No, he would have said, no, you're a hypocrite.
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I don't need to speculate about what Jesus would do.
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This is someone who wants to keep getting invited onto CNN.
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I mean, there's just no other way to explain it.
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Because if Marjorie had called Dana Bash out on her nonsense,
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if she'd said something like, oh, toxic rhetoric?
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Well, have you asked every Democrat in the country
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why they still haven't announced the attorney general of Virginia
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she never would have been invited on CNN ever again.
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And even though I've made my audition tape for The View,
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I don't think there's going to be an invitation forthcoming.
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that, um, yeah, being in these kind of mainstream
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where they have got like 10 viewers now, still,
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And I'm sure they're saying very flattering things
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It's the concept that women in a romantic relationship
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But in our self-centered, misinterested, feminist dystopia,
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and you find that your relationship feels like a relationship,
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along with a link to an article about mankeeping.
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Well, it's a good thing men never have to do any of that for women.
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I wish I had a dollar for every time a male friend has said to me,
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Man, I wish my wife would just open up about her feelings a little bit more.
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Just stone-cold, totally even keel all the time.
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Because, of course, men have done this for the women in their lives
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every day, all day since the dawn of humanity itself.
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And if it had been, it would have been condemned as horrific sexism
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by precisely all of the women who are now using the term mankeeping.
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Researchers at Stanford have finally given a name
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to something many women have been dealing with for years.
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And it's helping explain why so many women are stepping away from dating altogether.
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Mankeeping describes the emotional labor women end up doing in heterosexual relationships.
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It goes beyond remembering birthdays or coordinating social plans.
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It means being your partner's one-man support system.
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holding his hand through feelings he won't share with anybody else,
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all of it unpaid, unacknowed, and often unreciprocated.
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you notice how the word unpaid so often comes up
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in these feminist lamentations about the alleged unfairness of heterosexual relationships.
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Many times we talk about this sort of thing in the daily cancellation.
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Now, a sane person who does not suffer from a psychotic level of bitterness and narcissism
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would not even think to complain that the emotional support they offer to their spouse
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Even at their most selfish, their most self-pitying,
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the thought, I can't believe my spouse isn't paying me to care about them,
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they would be shocked and appalled and most of all, like, really confused.
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I'm trying to imagine how my wife would react if I had a heart-to-heart talk with her.
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And then after our conversation, as it concluded, I said,
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so what's your hourly rate? Is it $100? Is that fair? Here you go.
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Now, she might laugh, but more likely she would probably cry
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because she would realize that I'd finally lost my mind.
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which is the other context where feminists often use the term,
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And it also reveals perhaps the deepest truth about the left-wing feminist,
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which is that, just to be totally frank about this,
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the left-wing feminist aspires to nothing so much as to be a whore.
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She wants her husband to pay her for paying attention to him.
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perhaps because they've decided, rightly in many cases,
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to prostitute themselves in the most literal sense.
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remains the great dream of every liberal feminist.
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The root of the issue is tied to what experts are calling
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As more men report having fewer close friendships,
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romantic partners are expected to pick up the slack.
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many men offload everything onto the women they're dating.
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She becomes his entire emotional infrastructure.
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Plenty of women are no longer interested in that dynamic.
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they're opting out of being someone's therapist with benefits.
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it's about refusing to carry someone else's emotional weight
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And there's nothing wrong with feeling that way.
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we established, as we have again in this segment,
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And that is the primary and most obvious takeaway.