The Matt Walsh Show - November 17, 2025


Ep. 1692 - "America Only" Should Not Be Controversial, So Why Is It?


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 13 minutes

Words per Minute

167.08286

Word Count

12,222

Sentence Count

864

Misogynist Sentences

51

Hate Speech Sentences

54


Summary

In this episode of Frontburner, host Jamie Poisson talks about the growing problem of conservative anger at America's leaders focusing on other countries and their problems, and how to deal with it. Plus, a raffle winner is chosen at random and there's still time to win!


Transcript

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00:01:00.000 What I think is happening here is that a certain subset of people identifying as conservatives, for whatever reason, don't want our leaders focusing on America.
00:01:07.780 And therefore, when someone suggests a change, when someone suggests focusing on America, they get very upset.
00:01:13.360 The only country that should matter to our leaders is America.
00:01:16.640 America only.
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00:03:34.220 Now, you might think that when someone's in the business of talking about politics on a podcast for a living,
00:03:39.520 there's a natural temptation to make increasingly outrageous and controversial statements and a bid for attention.
00:03:46.660 After all, there's no built-in audience for a podcast, no matter how big or successful it may be.
00:03:51.320 Even Joe Rogan doesn't have a guaranteed audience.
00:03:54.320 Unlike CNN or MSNBC, no one is forced to listen to any particular podcast in an airport or senior living center or anything like that.
00:04:03.700 So, it's conventional wisdom in some circles that podcast hosts are naturally more extreme and unhinged than everyone else
00:04:12.380 because if the listeners don't hear something truly shocking or stunning, then they're going to tune out.
00:04:19.360 And, you know, there's some truth to that idea.
00:04:21.840 But the flip side of the coin is that these days, statements that are not shocking or stunning or even remotely provocative
00:04:28.580 are often still treated as such, which means that certain podcast hosts like yours truly
00:04:35.180 may earn a reputation as some kind of shock jock, even though they mostly just say pretty normal and sane sorts of things.
00:04:45.780 So, for example, last week on this show, I made probably one of the one of the safest and most straightforward statements
00:04:51.560 I've ever made in my entire career.
00:04:55.400 This is a statement that's basically a paraphrase of what the Founding Fathers said many times over.
00:05:01.480 For 99% of this country's history, no one would have batted an eye after hearing it.
00:05:07.980 And yet, after I made this particular statement, all hell broke loose on social media over the past few days.
00:05:13.380 Nearly 6 million people have viewed the footage of my remarks on X
00:05:17.280 and there have been thousands of furious and unhinged reactions,
00:05:21.820 much of it coming from the right or the right.
00:05:25.400 And those are the responses I want to focus on today.
00:05:28.500 So, we're not talking about a media matters-driven outrage cycle here, at least not exclusively.
00:05:35.520 I actually can't think of anything I've said recently that's caused more consternation and outrage from conservatives
00:05:41.560 than the footage I'm about to show you.
00:05:43.200 Except when I said that conservatives should stop fighting with each other
00:05:46.280 and focus on the people who actively want to kill us.
00:05:49.100 That was the most controversial thing you could ever say, it turns out.
00:05:52.100 But this is a close second place, I think, on the outrage meter.
00:05:56.760 So, here's the big moment.
00:05:58.940 Here is the excerpt from my show that evidently is simply intolerable to a significant portion of the right.
00:06:08.480 Watch.
00:06:08.960 What we want is for someone to unashamedly and single-mindedly advocate for Americans and Americans only.
00:06:17.620 We want someone to say, you know, the only thing I care about is helping Americans.
00:06:21.020 The only people I care about in the world are Americans.
00:06:23.360 And we don't want to just hear that, but we want to see the action taken as well.
00:06:26.020 You know, I've seen some people on social media say, hey, it's America first, but not America only.
00:06:32.400 I disagree.
00:06:33.440 I think it is America only.
00:06:34.920 It's like I said months ago, I consider myself an American chauvinist.
00:06:38.380 America first, America only, I'm an American chauvinist.
00:06:40.480 I don't care about it.
00:06:41.340 This is the only thing I care about.
00:06:42.880 America should be the only thing you care about, especially as a leader of the country.
00:06:48.400 Now, you could pull up some speeches from George Washington and read pretty much the same thing.
00:06:53.360 Said much more eloquently, but still, it's the same kind of idea.
00:06:57.460 Washington said that the great rule for the United States in regard to foreign nations is to, quote,
00:07:02.400 have with them as little political connection as possible.
00:07:06.220 Jefferson and John Adams agreed.
00:07:07.880 All the founders wrote that if it benefited the United States, we should trade with other countries.
00:07:13.600 We should speak to them if it was in our interest to do so.
00:07:17.400 But otherwise, we really shouldn't have anything to do with them at all.
00:07:20.780 And if that seems controversial to you, think about the issue in terms of your own family.
00:07:27.900 Now, speaking for myself, although I suspect everybody listening to this podcast agrees with me on this,
00:07:33.260 you know, I'm America only in the same sort of sense that I am my family only.
00:07:39.100 My priority is my family.
00:07:41.200 I will never put any other family above my own.
00:07:43.720 I will help other families only to the extent that it brings no harm to my own family.
00:07:51.640 My family is the only family that I treat as my family because it is my only family.
00:07:57.320 There will never be a time when the interests of another family will come before my own.
00:08:01.900 If I had to choose between rescuing a thousand strangers from a fire or just one of my children,
00:08:09.760 I would choose my child without hesitation.
00:08:13.060 It could be a million strangers that I could rescue or just one of my children, and I will choose my child.
00:08:21.600 I'd say that's my family only.
00:08:23.960 And I also think that every parent would do the same.
00:08:29.520 Now, our leaders are not our parents, and we're not their children, so I hesitate a little bit to make those kinds of analogies.
00:08:35.100 But the same general principle should apply.
00:08:36.860 They should prioritize their people, Americans, above all other people on earth.
00:08:41.840 They should concern themselves with other nations only to the degree that it benefits Americans.
00:08:47.860 If they could choose between helping 10 million foreigners or one American family,
00:08:53.740 they should choose the American family without hesitation.
00:08:57.460 If they could help 10 million foreigners, but it would harm one American family,
00:09:04.120 then they should not help those 10 million foreigners.
00:09:09.340 This is what it means to be a nation, a people, or what it should mean.
00:09:14.120 And from the time George Washington was president, no American,
00:09:20.260 no one who truly cared about conserving and protecting this country, disagreed with this.
00:09:25.200 It's just, it's obvious.
00:09:27.320 Now, from the responses I received over the weekend,
00:09:30.440 it is clear that my statements are now considered highly incendiary,
00:09:34.840 even among some conservatives,
00:09:36.860 for stating that our leaders should exclusively prioritize America's interests,
00:09:41.500 America's interests only.
00:09:45.260 That's what we mean by American only.
00:09:47.480 The only interests that matter are our own.
00:09:51.680 And for saying that,
00:09:53.040 I was criticized from many directions.
00:09:56.420 And I also received some words of concern,
00:09:58.700 or perhaps more eager anticipation from other commentators
00:10:02.060 who prophesied that I would be fired for that video that I just played.
00:10:07.380 A lot of comments like that.
00:10:08.520 Well, if you're hearing this and you're watching it,
00:10:10.920 it seems safe to say that I was not, in fact,
00:10:12.740 fired from my job for saying that we should prioritize America's interests.
00:10:16.020 Nor would it have made much sense if I had been,
00:10:19.080 because I've been saying the same thing for many years now,
00:10:21.440 and it's also just really obvious.
00:10:24.540 Meanwhile, many of the more serious responses to my commentary
00:10:28.180 were obviously made in bad faith,
00:10:30.360 meaning they misrepresented what I said.
00:10:32.140 And again, these misrepresentations were not coming from the left.
00:10:35.500 So we've got a big problem here
00:10:39.380 when the idea that we should only prioritize our own country's interests
00:10:43.660 is controversial on the right.
00:10:45.800 We've got a big problem.
00:10:47.380 We've got some fundamental problems here,
00:10:49.080 and that's why I think it's worth talking about.
00:10:50.600 So, for example, here was the response from a lawyer named Ethan Isaacson,
00:10:54.100 who describes himself as pro-Western civilization.
00:10:56.840 And here's what he told me, quote,
00:10:57.620 There are many posts along these lines.
00:11:11.960 And, of course, the problem is that nothing that he wrote
00:11:14.740 is actually responsive to what I said.
00:11:16.820 I never denied that other nations exist.
00:11:19.320 I didn't say America is the only country that exists on the globe.
00:11:24.840 I didn't deny that, you know, some nations will be adversaries
00:11:27.900 and others will be friendly.
00:11:29.460 I also never stated that we should ignore the rest of the world.
00:11:32.400 If Cuba develops a nuclear bomb
00:11:33.860 and tries to detonate it on American soil tomorrow,
00:11:36.580 I would support military action to stop them.
00:11:39.740 On the other hand, if Cuba has some kind of humanitarian crisis,
00:11:42.800 which they often do,
00:11:44.340 then we generally should not intervene
00:11:46.560 because it has no bearing on the United States.
00:11:49.480 It would not make us stronger in any way
00:11:52.440 to send them billions of dollars.
00:11:55.060 Quite the contrary.
00:11:56.960 So we shouldn't do it, usually.
00:11:59.620 And that's the point I was making.
00:12:02.920 The only country that should matter to our leaders is America.
00:12:06.280 America only.
00:12:07.180 America is the only concern.
00:12:09.900 We should only get involved with other countries
00:12:12.380 when there is an unequivocal benefit to our own country.
00:12:16.000 And that is rarely, though not never, the case.
00:12:19.540 And that's the part you're not supposed to say, but it's true.
00:12:22.960 No matter how great an alleged ally may be,
00:12:26.400 we shouldn't do anything for them
00:12:28.100 unless it serves our interests.
00:12:30.620 That is the one qualifier that we should take into account.
00:12:38.020 Does this serve our interests?
00:12:40.360 Does this help American families?
00:12:43.260 And if it doesn't, we shouldn't do it.
00:12:46.000 Now, I used the analogy last week of teams in sports.
00:12:48.900 Not a perfect analogy, but it helps make the point,
00:12:51.700 you know, that if you're the coach of a football team,
00:12:53.860 you would never do anything to help another team
00:12:58.940 if it hurts your own team.
00:13:01.700 Now, that doesn't mean that you hate other teams
00:13:03.960 or you deny their humanity,
00:13:05.540 doesn't make you a selfish person or a bad Christian.
00:13:08.240 It just means that your duty, your job,
00:13:11.140 is to your team.
00:13:14.020 And when it comes to our, quote-unquote, allies,
00:13:16.240 the other important point is that,
00:13:17.600 you know, they all need us more than we need them.
00:13:20.780 And there is no exception to this rule.
00:13:22.440 They all do.
00:13:23.680 You cannot name a single ally of the United States
00:13:26.300 where they benefit us more than we benefit them.
00:13:29.820 And you certainly can't name a single ally of the U.S.
00:13:33.020 that's worth any significant degree
00:13:35.220 of internal political division on the right
00:13:37.080 in our own country,
00:13:37.820 especially at a time when leftists openly want to murder
00:13:40.980 every single one of us.
00:13:42.640 And they're gloating about shooting conservatives in the neck
00:13:45.020 and killing their children.
00:13:46.100 And meanwhile, conservatives are mad at me
00:13:50.240 for saying American interests are paramount.
00:13:54.160 And it didn't stop there.
00:13:55.560 Here's another one.
00:13:56.700 Quote, Matt, you can't use the camera or laptop
00:13:58.860 or cell phone or internet
00:13:59.940 without a functioning global supply chain.
00:14:02.480 Matt, you can't even get antibiotics produced in the U.S.
00:14:05.440 Good luck with America only.
00:14:09.060 Now, this is an example of someone attempting to argue with me,
00:14:11.820 but really agreeing with everything I'm saying,
00:14:14.000 making my point even better than I did.
00:14:15.660 That's because he's right about antibiotics.
00:14:20.480 We don't even make penicillin anymore,
00:14:22.400 and that needs to change.
00:14:23.320 We need to start producing more antibiotics in this country.
00:14:25.760 At the moment, as we learned earlier this year
00:14:27.820 during the tariff wars,
00:14:29.000 we get the active ingredients in most antibiotics from China,
00:14:32.560 which is not ideal,
00:14:33.620 especially since over the past decade,
00:14:35.060 we've experienced substantial shortages of antibiotics
00:14:36.960 in this country.
00:14:37.980 According to one recent paper,
00:14:39.120 quote,
00:14:39.320 So we've never been as reliant on foreign antibiotics
00:14:51.620 as we are right now,
00:14:52.840 and there's no clear reason for this.
00:14:54.680 We have the capacity to make antibiotics in this country,
00:14:57.180 or at least to source them from somewhere other than China,
00:15:00.540 and we should make that happen.
00:15:02.460 And no, that doesn't mean that we need to
00:15:03.700 make literally every product in this country,
00:15:06.440 but it does mean that when we have the option
00:15:08.920 of making critical products that we need
00:15:10.620 for society to function,
00:15:11.640 like basic antibiotics,
00:15:12.880 it's usually better to do that in our country if we can.
00:15:15.960 But apparently, by saying things like this,
00:15:18.200 I was actually calling for the end of the U.S. dollar
00:15:21.200 as the global reserve currency.
00:15:23.980 So here's one response along those lines.
00:15:25.900 Quote,
00:15:26.340 America only means the U.S. dollar
00:15:28.100 is no longer the global reserve currency.
00:15:30.120 That's upheld by global trade,
00:15:32.960 finance, and alliances.
00:15:33.920 Isolation erodes trust,
00:15:36.220 leads to de-dollarization,
00:15:38.220 rising inflation and debt costs,
00:15:40.020 and cedes geostrategic power to bricks.
00:15:43.320 Does Matt even know how the world works?
00:15:47.220 This is another reply that doesn't make much sense
00:15:49.500 and invents things I didn't say
00:15:50.720 and then accuses me of being a moron
00:15:52.580 for believing these made-up arguments
00:15:54.120 that I didn't make.
00:15:55.640 Of course, focusing exclusively on America's interests
00:15:58.400 does not mean that we should suspend
00:16:01.540 all international financial transactions
00:16:03.660 and destroy the value of the U.S. dollar.
00:16:05.640 Doing something like that
00:16:06.460 would be contrary to America's interests,
00:16:09.740 so we shouldn't do it.
00:16:12.380 It's pretty simple.
00:16:13.580 Again, America only means that
00:16:15.720 the only priority of our leaders
00:16:18.560 is to serve the interests
00:16:20.240 of our country and its people.
00:16:23.400 So when you say,
00:16:24.320 oh, but what about this?
00:16:25.680 If we don't do this,
00:16:26.520 it's going to hurt Americans.
00:16:27.400 Okay, well, then we should do it
00:16:29.220 if your argument is true.
00:16:32.460 Okay, now we're arguing
00:16:33.600 based on the right premise here.
00:16:36.020 That's the whole point.
00:16:37.500 If you're making any argument
00:16:38.920 for doing anything globally,
00:16:41.060 the argument should be,
00:16:43.800 well, yeah, we should do this
00:16:44.800 because this will help America.
00:16:46.540 Now, you might be wrong,
00:16:47.700 you might be right about that argument,
00:16:49.160 but that is the argument you need to make.
00:16:51.700 Making the argument that,
00:16:52.920 well, we should do this
00:16:53.700 because it's really important
00:16:54.880 to those foreigners over there
00:16:56.420 that we do it.
00:16:57.560 That is the wrong argument
00:16:58.960 because that is not the point.
00:17:04.860 The point is serving our own interests.
00:17:08.640 If it serves our interests,
00:17:09.940 we should do it.
00:17:10.620 This really is not complicated.
00:17:12.380 It really isn't.
00:17:14.780 At a certain point,
00:17:15.760 when people are willing
00:17:16.500 to constantly misrepresent
00:17:17.940 my position on this,
00:17:20.000 you have to wonder
00:17:20.580 if something else is going on.
00:17:22.880 What I think is happening here
00:17:23.980 is that a certain subset of people
00:17:25.360 identifying as conservatives
00:17:26.600 for whatever reason
00:17:28.060 don't want our leaders
00:17:30.080 focusing on America.
00:17:31.200 They want our leaders
00:17:32.040 working for their favored
00:17:33.300 foreign country instead.
00:17:35.000 And therefore,
00:17:35.420 when someone suggests a change,
00:17:37.320 when someone suggests
00:17:38.040 focusing on America,
00:17:39.740 they get very upset.
00:17:41.120 They start accusing you
00:17:42.300 of things you never said.
00:17:44.480 It's a bit like telling a drug addict
00:17:45.840 that he needs to get help
00:17:46.760 and square his life away.
00:17:47.720 Oftentimes, he completely spirals
00:17:49.040 out of control,
00:17:49.780 lashing out uncontrollably.
00:17:52.080 Here's another example.
00:17:53.160 The American colonists
00:17:54.640 literally won the revolution
00:17:55.880 in 1781 because of France.
00:17:57.600 If France didn't help us,
00:17:59.020 we would have lost.
00:18:00.260 This idea that a nation
00:18:01.260 doesn't need mutually beneficial alliances
00:18:03.320 is so ludicrous and ahistorical.
00:18:05.660 Can't believe this is becoming
00:18:06.960 a talking point
00:18:07.860 on the podcast right.
00:18:11.320 Yes, can you believe this
00:18:12.540 latest talking point
00:18:14.500 on the podcast right?
00:18:16.700 All of us podcast bros
00:18:18.420 on the right are saying
00:18:19.760 that we shouldn't have accepted
00:18:20.720 France's assistance
00:18:21.760 in 1781.
00:18:25.560 That's what we're really
00:18:26.320 fired up about
00:18:27.000 in the last few weeks.
00:18:28.580 That's what people
00:18:29.420 are arguing about now.
00:18:32.080 Now, France in 1781.
00:18:35.140 That's what we're all saying,
00:18:35.940 that we should not have,
00:18:36.640 you know, we should have told
00:18:37.280 the French back in 1781
00:18:38.400 not to blockade the British
00:18:39.820 or to send us financial assistance
00:18:41.680 and troops
00:18:42.120 because we could have handled
00:18:43.240 everything on our own.
00:18:44.860 This guy really has his finger
00:18:46.300 on the pulse
00:18:46.900 of the podcast right.
00:18:48.980 He's exposed us.
00:18:50.720 Now, just to play the game
00:18:52.120 for a second here,
00:18:52.860 if I had been alive in 1781,
00:18:55.000 I would have accepted
00:18:55.980 the assistance
00:18:56.440 of the French military
00:18:57.460 and there's no inconsistency here
00:18:59.380 and that's because
00:19:00.700 follow along closely.
00:19:04.200 Aligning with France
00:19:05.720 was obviously
00:19:06.640 in our national interests
00:19:08.840 at the time
00:19:10.020 and so
00:19:11.800 it's perfectly in keeping
00:19:14.380 with what I'm talking about.
00:19:15.580 It helped us survive
00:19:16.580 as a country.
00:19:18.080 Once again,
00:19:18.600 America only
00:19:20.120 means doing only
00:19:22.060 what serves
00:19:23.100 our national interests.
00:19:25.440 That did serve
00:19:26.500 our national interests
00:19:27.380 so it's good
00:19:28.720 that we did it.
00:19:31.000 Seems like a very basic point
00:19:32.460 but apparently
00:19:32.860 I need to constantly
00:19:33.840 spell it out
00:19:34.460 because thousands of people
00:19:35.600 are pretending
00:19:36.160 to be confused.
00:19:38.720 Now, in keeping
00:19:39.420 with that theme,
00:19:40.060 I was also accused
00:19:40.820 of violating
00:19:41.860 the tenets of Christianity
00:19:43.140 by saying that
00:19:44.100 we need to focus
00:19:44.620 on America.
00:19:45.340 Here's Peter Laffin
00:19:46.340 at D.C. Examiner,
00:19:47.280 quote,
00:19:47.960 America first,
00:19:48.700 America only
00:19:49.180 is manifestly at odds
00:19:50.780 with the Christian faith.
00:19:52.340 This can't be squared.
00:19:55.140 This is another
00:19:55.860 common refrain.
00:19:56.660 Here's another
00:19:56.980 similar post
00:19:57.620 from Philip Goff
00:19:59.400 who's an author.
00:20:01.700 This sentiment
00:20:02.480 is completely incompatible
00:20:04.180 with Christian ethics.
00:20:06.460 Here's a similar post
00:20:07.460 from a man
00:20:07.780 named Evan Wickham,
00:20:09.400 quote,
00:20:10.020 The moment a Christian platform
00:20:11.280 pushes America first
00:20:12.420 and only,
00:20:12.920 Christians should stand up
00:20:14.020 and call it what it is,
00:20:15.280 anti-gospel nonsense.
00:20:17.380 Calling Walsh's take extreme
00:20:18.720 is an excuse
00:20:19.340 to stay silent.
00:20:20.460 Renounce it.
00:20:21.600 Jesus didn't draw borders
00:20:22.860 around his compassion.
00:20:24.880 Yes, renounce it.
00:20:25.980 Don't just disagree
00:20:26.780 with putting our country's
00:20:28.780 priorities first
00:20:29.780 with only prioritizing
00:20:30.800 the interests
00:20:31.100 of our own country.
00:20:32.040 Renounce it.
00:20:33.640 You must disavow.
00:20:35.620 Yeah, you need to disavow me.
00:20:37.300 Very important.
00:20:39.800 A lot of conservatives
00:20:40.720 these days are big on that.
00:20:42.600 Gotta disavow.
00:20:43.340 We need to disavow.
00:20:44.320 Disavow that person
00:20:45.200 and that person.
00:20:46.940 And once you disavow them,
00:20:47.980 disavow them too.
00:20:51.340 I remember back
00:20:52.340 when this was
00:20:53.360 the feature
00:20:54.960 of left-wing cancel culture
00:20:56.260 was the constant demands
00:20:58.440 for renunciations
00:21:00.120 and disavowals.
00:21:01.780 And now it's coming
00:21:02.460 from conservatives
00:21:03.500 all the time.
00:21:04.980 Every day,
00:21:05.720 it's another person.
00:21:07.600 Now it's my turn.
00:21:09.240 Renounce me.
00:21:09.960 Disavow me.
00:21:12.480 Now, in other words,
00:21:13.040 according to these
00:21:13.660 various commentators,
00:21:14.680 the gospel commands
00:21:16.040 that Americans advance
00:21:17.460 the interests
00:21:18.000 of foreign countries.
00:21:19.320 That's what the gospel says.
00:21:21.520 Somewhere.
00:21:23.260 It's in the Bible
00:21:24.080 somewhere in some form.
00:21:25.320 But as you might have guessed,
00:21:26.200 none of these commentators
00:21:26.920 can point to a citation
00:21:28.080 for any of their claims
00:21:29.380 because there isn't one.
00:21:32.180 Now, as far as I could tell,
00:21:33.080 the idea that Christian ethics
00:21:34.480 mandates open borders
00:21:35.680 so that, you know,
00:21:36.660 more foreigners
00:21:37.300 can sexually assault
00:21:38.460 and murder women
00:21:39.180 on college campuses
00:21:40.020 or drive drunk
00:21:41.540 on the highway
00:21:42.040 at 2 p.m.
00:21:42.760 and wipe out
00:21:43.360 entire families.
00:21:45.380 That's not actually
00:21:46.080 something that Christ
00:21:46.820 endorsed at any point.
00:21:49.180 Nor is the idea
00:21:50.020 that foreign countries
00:21:50.900 deserve $80 billion
00:21:52.220 in financial assistance
00:21:53.380 every year from the U.S.,
00:21:54.480 which is what they're getting.
00:21:56.580 None of that's in the Bible.
00:21:58.840 That's not even hinted at
00:22:00.060 in the Bible.
00:22:01.220 So this is just,
00:22:02.460 of course,
00:22:03.020 being totally made up.
00:22:04.160 And in lieu of citations
00:22:07.180 to the scripture,
00:22:08.180 we got more posts
00:22:09.080 like this one from Evan.
00:22:10.020 This reply was directed
00:22:11.260 at me along with
00:22:12.020 William Wolfe,
00:22:12.980 who serves as the
00:22:13.760 executive director
00:22:14.600 of the Center for Baptist
00:22:15.500 Leadership.
00:22:16.080 Quote,
00:22:16.720 I'd love to hear
00:22:17.260 the Walsh-Wolfe tribe
00:22:18.800 talk about how to love
00:22:20.240 one's undocumented neighbor
00:22:21.760 with examples.
00:22:23.460 I know of an ICE agent
00:22:24.420 here in San Diego
00:22:25.300 who both upholds the law
00:22:26.660 and teaches his team
00:22:27.900 once they cross,
00:22:29.440 there are neighbors
00:22:30.320 deserving of love.
00:22:32.300 I don't know why
00:22:32.860 this is hard.
00:22:33.440 Now, first of all,
00:22:36.080 if there really is
00:22:36.940 a senior ICE agent
00:22:38.240 somewhere in San Diego
00:22:39.360 who instructs
00:22:40.960 other ICE agents
00:22:41.900 that illegal aliens,
00:22:43.340 once they cross,
00:22:44.620 are our neighbors
00:22:45.820 deserving of love,
00:22:47.800 then he needs to be
00:22:48.460 fired immediately.
00:22:49.440 Because the ICE agent
00:22:50.280 should be saying
00:22:50.980 that illegal aliens
00:22:52.340 are foreigners
00:22:53.460 who don't belong here
00:22:54.240 and they deserve
00:22:54.860 immediate deportation.
00:22:56.620 And that's it.
00:22:58.440 They are not
00:22:59.420 our neighbors.
00:23:01.060 Or at least
00:23:01.820 they shouldn't be.
00:23:02.420 That's the whole point,
00:23:03.680 Evan.
00:23:04.460 They're not our neighbors.
00:23:06.780 They're from another country.
00:23:08.200 They don't belong here legally.
00:23:11.740 Upholding the rule of law,
00:23:12.800 that's also in the Bible.
00:23:16.060 You know,
00:23:16.480 we're not paying ICE agents
00:23:17.400 to treat illegals lovingly
00:23:19.260 as our neighbors.
00:23:19.880 We're paying them
00:23:20.320 to enforce our immigration laws.
00:23:22.600 And secondly,
00:23:23.060 notice that Evan uses
00:23:23.820 the word undocumented
00:23:24.640 instead of illegal.
00:23:25.680 And you notice this a lot.
00:23:28.280 You know,
00:23:28.440 the same Christians
00:23:29.220 who are upset
00:23:30.020 about the basic principles
00:23:31.280 of nationalism
00:23:32.000 are also very often
00:23:33.380 the kinds of Christians
00:23:34.440 who use words
00:23:35.560 like undocumented.
00:23:38.080 These are weak,
00:23:39.280 pathetic frauds
00:23:40.140 who have conformed
00:23:41.180 themselves to the world.
00:23:42.900 You could tell it
00:23:43.780 even in the language
00:23:44.560 that they use.
00:23:45.860 While they pretend
00:23:46.860 to be holier
00:23:47.980 than the rest of us.
00:23:48.780 And they also dress up
00:23:51.340 their indifference
00:23:52.180 as compassion
00:23:53.060 because these are people
00:23:53.880 like Evan
00:23:54.460 couldn't care less
00:23:55.520 about American sovereignty,
00:23:56.740 couldn't care less
00:23:57.440 about our national identity,
00:23:58.800 couldn't care less
00:23:59.260 about our country,
00:24:00.920 couldn't care less
00:24:01.480 about all of the people
00:24:02.940 who are being killed
00:24:03.720 by illegal aliens
00:24:04.920 or the job opportunities
00:24:06.500 that are being taken away,
00:24:07.520 the way that it's decimating
00:24:08.480 our economy,
00:24:09.240 the housing market.
00:24:10.340 Couldn't care less about that.
00:24:11.180 He doesn't care.
00:24:11.780 It doesn't affect him personally.
00:24:13.300 He doesn't care at all.
00:24:14.500 Does not care.
00:24:15.740 And so therefore,
00:24:16.400 he has no anger about it.
00:24:18.600 And in his indifference,
00:24:20.460 he can step up and say,
00:24:21.520 oh, well,
00:24:22.080 I'm much better
00:24:23.780 than these other Christians.
00:24:25.140 I love everybody.
00:24:28.940 But they're not holier
00:24:30.000 than the rest of us,
00:24:30.820 nor do they have any idea
00:24:31.880 what they're talking about.
00:24:32.700 Loving someone
00:24:33.640 doesn't mean
00:24:34.900 just letting them
00:24:37.180 commit crimes.
00:24:38.880 It doesn't mean
00:24:39.380 giving them
00:24:39.740 a get-out-of-jail-free card.
00:24:42.100 And it doesn't mean
00:24:42.980 exposing innocent
00:24:43.860 American citizens
00:24:44.680 to violent
00:24:45.580 and extremely preventable
00:24:46.720 attacks by illegal
00:24:47.540 aliens.
00:24:48.120 There's no conception
00:24:49.120 of Christian love
00:24:50.180 that involves
00:24:51.320 opening the borders
00:24:52.280 and suspending
00:24:53.040 immigration law.
00:24:53.800 That is a flagrant
00:24:54.640 bastardization
00:24:55.580 of Christian teaching.
00:24:58.120 It's not even bastard.
00:24:58.720 It's got nothing
00:24:59.900 to do with it at all.
00:25:02.400 This is open borders
00:25:03.500 communist globalism
00:25:05.160 is what it is.
00:25:05.800 This is not Christianity.
00:25:07.080 This is antithetical
00:25:08.140 to Christianity.
00:25:09.420 And yet,
00:25:09.660 it's becoming mainstream
00:25:10.480 among many Catholics.
00:25:11.640 and I mention that
00:25:15.280 because several
00:25:15.900 U.S. bishops
00:25:16.600 just released
00:25:18.000 this video
00:25:19.040 condemning
00:25:20.640 the Trump administration
00:25:21.400 for enforcing
00:25:22.840 immigration law.
00:25:23.520 And as we're talking
00:25:24.000 about people
00:25:25.380 claiming that we have
00:25:26.220 some sort of
00:25:26.640 Christian duty
00:25:27.340 to accept
00:25:29.620 open borders
00:25:30.380 or open up our borders
00:25:31.200 and allow all
00:25:31.960 illegal aliens in,
00:25:33.920 well,
00:25:34.460 this was just released
00:25:35.720 a couple days ago,
00:25:36.460 so this is right in line
00:25:37.420 with that.
00:25:39.140 Let's watch it.
00:25:39.920 Here it is.
00:25:41.240 As pastors,
00:25:42.340 we, the bishops
00:25:43.000 of the United States,
00:25:44.400 are bound to our people
00:25:45.880 by ties of communion
00:25:47.560 and compassion
00:25:48.360 in our Lord Jesus Christ.
00:25:50.740 And we are disturbed
00:25:51.720 when we see
00:25:52.460 among our people
00:25:53.280 a climate of fear
00:25:54.680 and anxiety
00:25:55.560 around questions
00:25:56.780 of profiling
00:25:57.720 and immigration enforcement.
00:25:59.640 We are saddened
00:26:00.600 by the state
00:26:01.600 of contemporary debate
00:26:02.900 and the vivification
00:26:04.200 of immigrants.
00:26:06.140 We are concerned
00:26:07.080 about the conditions
00:26:08.600 in detention centers
00:26:10.000 and the lack of access
00:26:11.740 to pastoral care.
00:26:13.320 We lament
00:26:14.000 that some immigrants
00:26:14.920 in the United States
00:26:16.000 have arbitrarily lost
00:26:17.640 their legal status.
00:26:19.200 We are troubled
00:26:19.740 by threats
00:26:20.420 against the sanctity
00:26:21.380 of houses of worship
00:26:22.420 and the special nature
00:26:24.240 of hospitals
00:26:25.000 and schools.
00:26:26.360 We are grieved
00:26:27.160 when we meet parents
00:26:28.720 who fear being detained
00:26:30.360 when taking their children
00:26:32.020 to school
00:26:32.700 or when we try
00:26:34.700 to console family members
00:26:36.140 who have already
00:26:37.360 been separated
00:26:38.240 from their loved ones.
00:26:39.600 Catholic teaching
00:26:40.560 exhorts nations
00:26:41.800 to recognize
00:26:42.920 the fundamental dignity
00:26:44.820 of all persons,
00:26:46.320 including immigrants.
00:26:48.380 We bishops advocate
00:26:49.740 for a meaningful reform
00:26:52.420 of our nation's
00:26:53.740 immigration laws
00:26:54.780 and procedures.
00:26:56.480 Human dignity
00:26:57.060 and national security
00:26:58.980 are not in conflict.
00:27:01.240 Both are possible
00:27:02.200 if people of good will
00:27:03.760 work together.
00:27:07.740 Yeah, this is,
00:27:09.020 you know,
00:27:09.460 I'm Catholic,
00:27:10.540 as you know.
00:27:11.400 I love the church.
00:27:12.480 I love my faith.
00:27:14.300 And that is why
00:27:15.920 I watch something like that
00:27:18.680 and I find it
00:27:19.420 so infuriating
00:27:20.300 and disgusting
00:27:21.060 and cowardly
00:27:22.700 and dishonest.
00:27:25.060 And the funny thing is,
00:27:26.720 you know,
00:27:27.660 I don't recall
00:27:28.340 the bishops
00:27:29.380 making any sort
00:27:30.520 of video like this
00:27:31.480 to condemn
00:27:32.040 the Biden White House
00:27:33.300 for,
00:27:34.420 for example,
00:27:35.520 supporting funding
00:27:36.440 and facilitating
00:27:37.340 the mass slaughter
00:27:38.880 of children
00:27:39.480 in the womb.
00:27:41.880 You remember that?
00:27:42.760 I don't remember that.
00:27:43.400 I don't remember them
00:27:43.940 all lining up
00:27:44.560 for a video
00:27:45.060 where they're solemnly,
00:27:46.120 we condemn this.
00:27:48.020 This is terrible.
00:27:49.440 This should not be,
00:27:50.160 I don't,
00:27:50.520 I don't remember that
00:27:51.140 at any point.
00:27:52.440 I can't remember
00:27:54.960 seeing any video
00:27:56.200 with solemn condemnations
00:27:57.740 of the Biden White House
00:27:58.900 and its support
00:27:59.600 for the castration
00:28:01.140 and sexual mutilation
00:28:02.080 of children.
00:28:03.660 I don't remember that either.
00:28:06.440 And that's in spite
00:28:07.600 of the fact
00:28:08.160 that Biden
00:28:09.180 actually is
00:28:10.800 quote unquote
00:28:11.320 Catholic
00:28:11.800 and was actively
00:28:13.520 engaged in activities
00:28:14.820 that are explicitly
00:28:15.900 condemned
00:28:16.660 as mortally sinful
00:28:18.080 by the church.
00:28:19.320 Now Trump
00:28:21.360 is neither Catholic
00:28:22.740 nor is he doing
00:28:24.420 anything policy-wise
00:28:25.900 that contradicts
00:28:26.920 church teaching.
00:28:28.020 Nothing.
00:28:30.300 Okay, I'll tell you
00:28:30.720 that right now.
00:28:31.340 As a Catholic,
00:28:32.220 Trump is not doing
00:28:33.040 a single thing
00:28:34.500 policy-wise
00:28:36.020 that contradicts
00:28:37.260 church teaching.
00:28:38.100 Period.
00:28:41.080 Biden did things
00:28:42.440 in his policy
00:28:43.440 that contradicted
00:28:44.140 Catholic teaching
00:28:44.780 every day.
00:28:46.160 Every single day.
00:28:47.480 And we never got
00:28:48.140 a single video
00:28:48.700 like this.
00:28:49.320 And deportations
00:28:52.380 certainly do not
00:28:53.600 contradict
00:28:54.380 church teaching.
00:28:57.340 Biblical teaching.
00:28:59.200 And yet the bishops
00:29:00.200 suddenly find their voice
00:29:01.540 and their courage
00:29:02.380 for this issue.
00:29:05.060 Now notice they don't
00:29:06.260 say what reform
00:29:07.160 they're looking for
00:29:07.820 exactly.
00:29:08.380 In that video
00:29:08.880 they go on to say
00:29:09.720 that some immigration
00:29:10.860 enforcement and border
00:29:11.640 security is necessary
00:29:12.660 but they also claim
00:29:13.580 without setting a single
00:29:15.400 specific example
00:29:16.080 that the Trump administration
00:29:17.160 is somehow abusing
00:29:18.100 its authority
00:29:18.660 by deporting
00:29:19.640 illegal aliens.
00:29:20.720 They say some
00:29:21.600 immigrants have
00:29:22.180 arbitrarily lost
00:29:23.420 their legal status
00:29:24.900 without naming
00:29:25.880 a single actual
00:29:27.060 case of this happening
00:29:28.000 because it hasn't
00:29:29.340 happened.
00:29:29.820 It's a lie.
00:29:30.800 Who exactly has
00:29:31.720 arbitrarily lost
00:29:33.120 their legal status?
00:29:34.400 Where does that
00:29:34.780 happen?
00:29:36.120 Bishop,
00:29:36.600 you made the claim.
00:29:38.100 You have a moral
00:29:39.060 duty if you make
00:29:40.340 a claim like that
00:29:41.260 to be able to
00:29:42.600 support it.
00:29:43.120 Now I cover this
00:29:45.940 topic for a living.
00:29:46.640 I have no idea
00:29:47.220 who they're talking
00:29:48.060 about.
00:29:49.080 If they're talking
00:29:49.880 about the foreign
00:29:50.600 communists who lost
00:29:51.620 their green cards
00:29:52.300 after they openly
00:29:52.920 called for the
00:29:53.400 destruction of
00:29:53.880 Western civilization,
00:29:55.220 that wasn't
00:29:56.800 arbitrary.
00:29:57.880 Now if you want
00:29:58.320 to argue that it
00:29:58.860 was overkill or
00:30:01.500 something, I don't
00:30:01.920 think it was, but
00:30:02.540 if you want to argue
00:30:03.620 that you can make
00:30:03.980 that argument.
00:30:04.220 It's not arbitrary.
00:30:05.060 There's nothing
00:30:05.260 arbitrary about it.
00:30:06.140 The administration
00:30:08.620 isn't randomly
00:30:09.660 picking certain
00:30:10.540 people and just
00:30:11.380 kicking them out
00:30:12.200 of the country
00:30:12.620 for no reason.
00:30:14.680 They kick them
00:30:15.400 out because they
00:30:15.900 lied on their
00:30:16.940 visa applications
00:30:17.660 and because they're
00:30:18.240 subversive foreign
00:30:19.120 agents.
00:30:21.540 Then the bishops
00:30:22.300 say that some
00:30:22.960 parents are afraid
00:30:24.080 of being detained
00:30:25.160 on their way to
00:30:25.660 school, which is
00:30:26.880 supposed to sound
00:30:27.680 empathetic apparently.
00:30:28.880 Imagine if they,
00:30:29.520 you know, but
00:30:29.840 imagine if they
00:30:30.260 tried this tactic
00:30:31.020 with any other
00:30:32.180 crime.
00:30:33.940 Imagine that a
00:30:34.740 parent robs a
00:30:35.400 bank.
00:30:36.140 And the next
00:30:36.980 day he's nervous
00:30:37.620 driving his child
00:30:38.560 to school.
00:30:40.000 And you've got a
00:30:40.700 bishop saying,
00:30:41.360 well, he's nervous.
00:30:43.040 The poor guy's
00:30:43.720 nervous on his way
00:30:44.500 to school.
00:30:46.280 You know, we
00:30:46.980 should dismantle
00:30:47.740 all of the, we
00:30:48.540 should dismantle
00:30:49.160 all of the laws
00:30:49.840 of the United
00:30:50.180 States.
00:30:50.600 Just tear down
00:30:51.180 the border so
00:30:51.760 that this, because
00:30:52.500 this guy's nervous
00:30:53.380 and he's bringing
00:30:54.560 his kids to school
00:30:55.180 and he's nervous
00:30:55.780 and that, and so
00:30:56.600 let, you know,
00:30:57.180 nevermind, let's
00:30:57.680 not have a nation.
00:30:58.440 Let's not have a
00:30:58.960 country.
00:30:59.400 Good point, Bishop.
00:31:01.360 Let's just not
00:31:01.960 have one at all
00:31:02.560 so it doesn't,
00:31:03.040 because we don't
00:31:03.340 want to make them
00:31:03.680 nervous.
00:31:04.060 Should we feel
00:31:07.500 sympathy for that
00:31:08.200 parent?
00:31:08.660 Is that the
00:31:09.160 implication here?
00:31:11.940 Should we feel
00:31:12.620 sympathy when a
00:31:13.360 bank robber is
00:31:14.100 separated from his
00:31:14.900 child when he's
00:31:15.560 arrested by the
00:31:16.200 FBI?
00:31:16.620 I mean, when you
00:31:17.540 commit a crime and
00:31:18.260 coming into this
00:31:18.700 country illegally is
00:31:19.580 a crime, you very
00:31:21.680 often get separated
00:31:22.640 from your children.
00:31:23.660 That's, that, that
00:31:24.320 is, this happens
00:31:25.300 every day in this
00:31:26.120 country and it's
00:31:26.940 got nothing to do
00:31:27.500 with illegal immigrants
00:31:28.120 most of the time.
00:31:28.960 So here's a wild
00:31:31.060 idea for these
00:31:31.740 bishops.
00:31:32.160 How about instead
00:31:32.700 of condemning the
00:31:33.540 federal agents who
00:31:34.420 arrest criminals, you
00:31:36.360 actually condemn the
00:31:38.600 crimes themselves, the
00:31:42.320 crimes that are
00:31:42.820 harming this country.
00:31:45.340 How about you, you
00:31:46.360 tell parents to stop
00:31:47.320 committing federal
00:31:48.040 crimes in this
00:31:48.700 country and to
00:31:49.300 return home as
00:31:49.960 quickly as possible to
00:31:51.400 their home countries
00:31:52.020 where they belong.
00:31:54.280 Back in Mexico or
00:31:55.360 Venezuela or, or
00:31:56.420 whatever, presumably,
00:31:57.120 you know, this
00:31:58.380 parent would have
00:31:58.820 no problem driving
00:32:00.000 their child to
00:32:01.660 school.
00:32:03.780 They could do it
00:32:04.480 every day without
00:32:04.920 fear.
00:32:06.380 So why isn't that
00:32:07.600 their responsibility
00:32:08.340 as a parent?
00:32:10.360 The rule of law
00:32:11.260 must be maintained.
00:32:12.220 That is also a part
00:32:13.200 of Catholic teaching
00:32:13.960 and always has been.
00:32:16.680 Now the reality, of
00:32:17.560 course, is that these
00:32:18.220 bishops don't really
00:32:19.160 see illegal migration
00:32:20.440 as a crime.
00:32:21.120 They see bank robbery
00:32:22.580 as a crime, but they
00:32:23.300 don't care about
00:32:24.120 illegal migration
00:32:25.180 because they want
00:32:26.600 open borders.
00:32:28.120 They don't think
00:32:29.320 illegal entry should
00:32:30.100 be prosecuted at
00:32:31.000 all.
00:32:32.240 And instead of
00:32:32.640 admitting that
00:32:33.220 directly, they're
00:32:33.860 relying on emotional
00:32:34.720 blackmail, for
00:32:35.620 example, about
00:32:36.220 parents who are
00:32:36.800 scared as they
00:32:37.540 drive their kids
00:32:39.000 to school.
00:32:40.360 And to be clear,
00:32:40.880 when I talk about
00:32:41.660 putting America
00:32:43.300 first and only
00:32:44.380 America, America
00:32:45.340 only, I'm laying
00:32:46.780 out a philosophy
00:32:47.460 that is specifically
00:32:49.200 for our country
00:32:50.380 and its leaders.
00:32:51.320 I'm not suggesting
00:32:52.000 that the church
00:32:52.780 should adopt this
00:32:53.700 approach universally,
00:32:55.380 as my critics seem
00:32:56.600 to be implying.
00:32:58.180 Obviously, the
00:32:58.960 church is not
00:32:59.840 America only,
00:33:02.000 although church
00:33:03.340 leaders should not
00:33:04.080 be working to
00:33:05.020 actively undermine
00:33:06.100 our sovereignty
00:33:06.700 either, which is
00:33:08.440 what these bishops
00:33:09.020 are doing.
00:33:10.820 And that's what's
00:33:11.540 happening here, and
00:33:12.020 it's clearly a
00:33:12.600 deliberate effort by
00:33:14.380 some of these
00:33:14.840 bishops, as well as
00:33:16.220 a large faction on
00:33:17.240 the right, to
00:33:18.640 undermine our
00:33:19.240 national sovereignty.
00:33:19.940 And that's the
00:33:22.140 real reason that
00:33:22.700 so many so-called
00:33:23.560 conservatives and
00:33:24.520 Christians have
00:33:25.240 spent the last two
00:33:26.240 days having a
00:33:26.800 hissy fit over my
00:33:27.540 incredibly basic
00:33:28.700 articulation of the
00:33:29.640 most obvious and
00:33:30.580 self-evident principle
00:33:31.740 of nationalism.
00:33:33.640 For one reason or
00:33:34.580 another, they want to
00:33:35.400 undermine our
00:33:36.080 sovereignty.
00:33:37.920 So I'll say it
00:33:38.720 again.
00:33:40.340 America only.
00:33:42.720 America only.
00:33:44.520 Should not be a
00:33:45.440 controversial idea in
00:33:46.480 this country, least of
00:33:47.300 all among right-wingers.
00:33:48.240 The point is very
00:33:50.460 simple.
00:33:50.900 The only priority of
00:33:52.020 our leaders should be
00:33:52.960 the well-being of our
00:33:54.220 country and its
00:33:55.080 people.
00:33:55.480 There is no other
00:33:56.300 priority.
00:33:57.220 If getting involved in
00:33:58.080 another country's
00:33:58.700 affairs benefits our
00:33:59.780 people in some way,
00:34:00.600 then we should do it.
00:34:01.200 If it doesn't, we
00:34:01.820 shouldn't.
00:34:02.480 There is never a time
00:34:03.580 when our leaders should
00:34:04.800 do something that
00:34:05.620 harms our people or
00:34:06.980 fails to benefit them,
00:34:08.560 but benefits
00:34:09.200 foreigners.
00:34:11.180 Again, this should be
00:34:12.160 just about the most
00:34:12.880 obvious thing a
00:34:14.220 political commentator
00:34:15.220 could possibly say.
00:34:16.480 And yet we are so
00:34:18.740 confused that it's
00:34:20.800 treated as some kind
00:34:21.640 of provocative
00:34:22.600 theory.
00:34:25.680 But it's not.
00:34:26.640 I'm advocating for
00:34:27.660 exactly what our
00:34:28.800 founding fathers called
00:34:29.680 for, which is the
00:34:30.300 defense of our
00:34:30.980 national interest to
00:34:31.900 the exclusion of all
00:34:32.960 other foreign demands
00:34:34.200 and conflicts and
00:34:35.000 loyalties.
00:34:35.400 And if that passes for
00:34:36.180 a controversial statement
00:34:37.320 to anyone you know on
00:34:38.640 the right, then that
00:34:40.080 person is not actually
00:34:41.420 on the right.
00:34:42.120 they're not a
00:34:43.960 conservative.
00:34:45.860 In any sense, that
00:34:46.960 means anything to me.
00:34:48.520 What are we trying to
00:34:49.200 conserve?
00:34:51.180 Well, conserving our
00:34:52.000 national identity should
00:34:53.160 be really high up on the
00:34:55.500 list of the things that
00:34:56.460 we want to conserve.
00:34:57.160 And if that doesn't
00:34:57.640 interest you, then we're
00:34:59.140 just not fighting for
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00:35:01.380 Two months after a
00:35:02.480 leader in our movement
00:35:03.200 was murdered in front of
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00:35:06.420 these self-described
00:35:07.260 conservatives are
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00:37:55.720 All right, a couple of
00:37:56.440 things to hit here.
00:37:57.420 Let's just start.
00:37:58.260 We'll start with this
00:37:58.820 just for fun.
00:38:00.260 Protesters outside of an
00:38:02.020 ICE facility in Portland
00:38:03.500 showed up over the
00:38:06.520 weekend to do whatever
00:38:09.980 this is exactly, but here
00:38:11.760 it is.
00:38:12.060 five, six, seven, now to the
00:38:29.180 grapevine.
00:38:31.480 Good job.
00:38:34.620 Stay here.
00:38:35.580 Lift up.
00:38:36.060 Now you're doing the routine.
00:38:38.720 You choreographed.
00:38:39.880 Good job.
00:38:41.500 Great time again.
00:38:44.960 Okay.
00:38:46.800 Well, if you're listening to
00:38:47.840 the audio podcast, you were
00:38:49.060 deprived of the visuals there
00:38:50.880 and I'll just tell you that
00:38:52.060 they're doing some kind of a
00:38:54.040 protest aerobics thing.
00:38:56.460 I don't know what it is
00:38:57.120 exactly outside of the ICE
00:38:58.320 detention facility.
00:39:00.120 They all woke up that morning.
00:39:01.800 I think this was on Saturday
00:39:02.560 and they said, you know what?
00:39:03.500 I'm going to go, I'm going
00:39:04.480 to get into my spandex and do
00:39:05.860 an 80s style aerobics workout
00:39:07.900 outside of an ICE facility.
00:39:08.940 And then that's what they
00:39:10.300 did.
00:39:11.380 And somehow this is probably
00:39:12.540 the most normal thing that
00:39:13.940 anyone in Portland did over
00:39:15.740 the weekend.
00:39:16.320 If you were to stop anyone in
00:39:17.720 Portland on Saturday morning
00:39:18.640 and ask them where they're
00:39:19.480 headed off to, you would be
00:39:21.560 the least disturbed by the
00:39:23.780 people that were on their
00:39:24.420 way to Antifa aerobics at the
00:39:26.340 ICE facility.
00:39:27.920 So that's the bright side.
00:39:28.920 The other bright side is that
00:39:29.720 they're all clothed.
00:39:32.160 They are all admirably clothed,
00:39:34.560 which is, you know, you got to
00:39:36.580 take the silver lining wherever
00:39:37.460 you get it and it's there.
00:39:39.900 I do wonder though, when I
00:39:43.020 watch that, that looks to be
00:39:44.020 about 20 people doing this
00:39:45.920 Antifa aerobics protest class.
00:39:49.620 Here's a fun riddle.
00:39:50.560 How many showers total do you
00:39:52.400 think this group has taken over
00:39:55.420 the past month?
00:39:56.000 I don't mean like taken
00:39:56.800 together, although you never
00:39:57.800 know with these people.
00:39:59.100 I mean, if you add up all the
00:40:00.040 showers taken individually by
00:40:01.520 every member over the past
00:40:03.340 month, how many showers total?
00:40:04.780 I'm going to put the over under
00:40:05.760 at like nine.
00:40:08.320 Nine or ten.
00:40:10.040 Basically, a little fewer than
00:40:11.260 half of them have taken one
00:40:13.300 shower this month.
00:40:14.260 That's my, which again, above
00:40:16.500 average for this demographic.
00:40:17.980 So even more silver lining.
00:40:22.200 And, you know, it's, you see
00:40:23.660 clips like this, it's easy to
00:40:25.460 laugh at these people.
00:40:26.540 It's easy and enjoyable and that
00:40:28.640 is the appropriate response.
00:40:29.780 But really, the joke is on us
00:40:33.340 if we cannot beat these people.
00:40:36.620 I mean, we all laugh at these
00:40:38.020 videos of leftist protesters
00:40:39.920 because it's always like the
00:40:41.220 cringiest collection of crusty
00:40:43.860 boomer hippies and sexual
00:40:46.220 degenerates and furry costumes.
00:40:49.320 And you laugh at it, but the joke
00:40:53.080 is on us if we cannot completely
00:40:54.960 destroy this movement.
00:40:56.360 If we cannot destroy this
00:40:59.980 movement, this compilation of the
00:41:01.900 most pitiful, out-of-shape
00:41:05.700 weirdos the world has ever seen,
00:41:08.260 then that's really on us.
00:41:10.700 That is, the joke is very much on
00:41:13.480 us at that point.
00:41:17.320 But there are things preventing us
00:41:18.820 from doing that effectively.
00:41:20.200 And that brings us to the second
00:41:21.540 thing here.
00:41:22.080 And, you know, as I mentioned in
00:41:24.000 the opening, I've been calling for
00:41:25.600 unity on the right.
00:41:27.840 My point has been that we should
00:41:29.400 train our fire metaphorically on
00:41:31.900 the left, but, and many people on
00:41:35.060 the right have just flat-out rejected
00:41:36.780 that, no interest in it.
00:41:38.440 Made that very clear to me.
00:41:40.000 Not only no interest, but have been
00:41:41.820 angry at me for even suggesting,
00:41:43.040 and they're still mad.
00:41:45.520 But I sent out a tweet about it a
00:41:46.800 month ago, and there are still people
00:41:48.460 angry about it, like really angry.
00:41:50.080 Um, so, okay.
00:41:55.200 But I've also said, and if you
00:41:56.460 listen to the show, you know this,
00:41:57.500 you heard me say this from the
00:41:58.380 start, that this, uh, kind of no
00:42:00.080 enemies to the right idea cannot
00:42:02.480 apply to politicians.
00:42:05.000 At least not totally.
00:42:06.020 Because politicians, our elected
00:42:07.620 representatives, need to be held
00:42:09.380 accountable.
00:42:09.860 I mean, these are, these are people
00:42:11.260 in public office.
00:42:12.560 They've been elected.
00:42:13.280 They've been put there.
00:42:14.880 And, uh, we need to keep them
00:42:16.680 accountable.
00:42:17.060 Um, our unity with them is entirely
00:42:22.800 conditional.
00:42:23.840 It's conditioned on them doing what
00:42:25.800 we need and want them to do.
00:42:29.440 They work for us.
00:42:30.600 At least that's how it's supposed to
00:42:31.580 be.
00:42:34.020 And I've always said this about
00:42:35.440 politicians.
00:42:36.060 I, loyalty, people talk about,
00:42:39.380 loyalty is important.
00:42:40.640 And I've, and I've discussed that.
00:42:42.240 Loyalty is very important.
00:42:44.580 Loyalty to your friends, to your
00:42:45.900 family, to your nation.
00:42:47.940 Very important.
00:42:49.440 Loyalty to politicians, on the
00:42:50.880 other hand, is not a thing or
00:42:52.720 shouldn't be.
00:42:53.500 Loyalty should go the other way.
00:42:55.260 They need to be loyal to us.
00:42:57.800 We aren't loyal to them.
00:43:00.600 And they got to keep proving
00:43:01.740 themselves.
00:43:03.060 And look, if, if that, uh, if you
00:43:06.480 don't like that idea, if you don't
00:43:07.600 want to have to keep proving
00:43:08.960 yourself, if you're the kind of
00:43:10.240 person that feels offended when
00:43:12.600 you, you know, you do a few things
00:43:13.780 that your constituents like, and
00:43:15.440 then you do something they don't
00:43:16.280 like, and they start yelling at you
00:43:17.560 and you get offended, it feels
00:43:19.480 ungrateful.
00:43:20.100 If that's the way you feel about it,
00:43:21.440 then don't, then just don't run for
00:43:22.820 office because that's the gig.
00:43:26.520 Um, you get graded every day and if
00:43:29.900 you get a bad grade, you're going to
00:43:30.900 find out about it.
00:43:31.860 And if you don't like that, then
00:43:33.440 don't, no one forced you to be a
00:43:35.000 politician.
00:43:36.420 That's the gig.
00:43:37.180 That's the job.
00:43:37.840 Um, so with that in mind, we turn
00:43:40.760 to Marjorie Taylor Greene and, uh,
00:43:42.700 she's been in a war of words with
00:43:43.980 president Trump and I don't really
00:43:46.540 care about that.
00:43:47.180 Frankly, I also have, I also like
00:43:49.200 Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:43:50.080 Usually I think she's done, um, I
00:43:53.260 think she's done some great work, but
00:43:54.940 she's, she's moving in a direction
00:43:56.660 right now that again, as a politician,
00:43:58.620 as an elected representative, I just
00:44:01.160 can't abide.
00:44:01.880 Uh, a couple of weeks ago, she was on
00:44:04.520 the view and had a nice conversation
00:44:06.400 with the ladies on the view and that
00:44:09.160 was, that was odd.
00:44:11.100 I didn't, I didn't, I didn't call it
00:44:12.260 out at the, at the time.
00:44:13.820 Uh, I found it disappointing.
00:44:15.240 I didn't think it was necessarily
00:44:15.900 worth hitting her over.
00:44:17.620 Uh, but, but there was no, you know,
00:44:20.420 she sat down with the view that had
00:44:21.260 a nice conversation, didn't call them
00:44:22.840 out, no fireworks, no, no rhetorical
00:44:25.020 punches thrown.
00:44:26.360 They just had a nice, nice little talk.
00:44:29.460 Kind of strange, but yeah, you think,
00:44:32.620 okay, well, whatever.
00:44:34.560 Maybe I'll let that slide.
00:44:36.400 Um, it's all, it's also, I take it
00:44:39.280 like personally on a personal level.
00:44:40.980 I don't like, cause as you know, I
00:44:42.300 have been auditioning for the view.
00:44:45.180 I put on my audition table like a
00:44:47.100 month ago when they claimed they were
00:44:49.140 looking for more conservatives.
00:44:51.200 And I, I, I, you know, I, I sent out
00:44:54.040 my appeal, which is very heartfelt and
00:44:55.780 genuine, as you know, and I've been
00:44:58.340 waiting for my chance to get on that
00:44:59.640 show.
00:45:02.600 Finally, they have someone from the
00:45:03.840 right on the show and, uh, and we get
00:45:06.340 no, we get nothing, nothing interesting
00:45:10.440 happened at all.
00:45:12.180 They got along and enjoyed each other's
00:45:14.760 company.
00:45:17.080 So, okay, fine.
00:45:18.720 But then this happened.
00:45:19.780 So she appeared on CNN over the weekend
00:45:21.860 and, uh, listen to this exchange.
00:45:25.000 You posted on X that President Trump is
00:45:29.520 with his comments, fueling a quote, hot
00:45:32.200 bed of threats against you.
00:45:34.300 Obviously any threats to your safety are
00:45:36.580 completely unacceptable, but we have seen
00:45:39.440 these kinds of attacks or criticism from
00:45:42.600 the president at other people.
00:45:44.840 It's not new.
00:45:45.920 And with respect, I haven't heard you speak
00:45:48.480 out about it until it was directed at you.
00:45:51.020 Dana, I think that's fair criticism.
00:45:57.520 And I would like to say humbly, I'm sorry
00:46:00.700 for taking part in the toxic, uh, politics.
00:46:05.920 It's, it's very bad for our country.
00:46:08.460 Um, and I've, it's been something I've
00:46:10.820 thought about a lot, especially since
00:46:12.920 Charlie Kirk was assassinated is that we,
00:46:16.380 I'm only responsible for myself and my own
00:46:19.280 words and actions and I am going, I am
00:46:22.660 committed and I've been working on this
00:46:24.560 a lot lately to put down the knives
00:46:27.540 in politics.
00:46:28.240 I really just want to see people be
00:46:31.300 kind to one another and we need to
00:46:33.440 figure out a new path forward that is
00:46:36.280 focused on the American people because
00:46:38.320 as Americans, no matter what side of
00:46:40.680 the aisle we're on, we have far more in
00:46:43.320 common than we have differences and we
00:46:46.840 need to be able to respect each other with
00:46:49.060 our disagreements.
00:46:50.100 So just to put a button on this, you
00:46:52.020 regret the things that you have said and
00:46:54.820 posted in the past.
00:46:56.020 The Facebook, uh, post that was taken
00:46:58.740 down of you in 2020 holding a gun
00:47:01.080 alongside, uh, the squad, encouraging
00:47:03.900 people to go on the offense against the
00:47:06.280 socialists, liking, uh, a tweet of
00:47:09.160 somebody calling for the execution of
00:47:10.920 Nancy Pelosi and former President Obama.
00:47:12.920 Just examples.
00:47:13.600 Well, Dana, as you know, and many people
00:47:19.240 know, I addressed that back in 2021 and of
00:47:23.560 course, um, I never want to cause any harm
00:47:26.640 or, or anything bad for anyone.
00:47:28.560 So that, that was addressed back then.
00:47:31.040 And I very much stand by my words.
00:47:32.640 I said then, and I stand by my words today.
00:47:35.060 I think America needs to come together and
00:47:38.600 end all the toxic, dangerous rhetoric and
00:47:41.900 divide.
00:47:42.400 And I'm leading the way with my own
00:47:44.560 example.
00:47:45.200 And I hope that president Trump can do the
00:47:47.140 same.
00:47:50.560 Uh, amazing.
00:47:53.440 Okay.
00:47:54.440 So just to review here, Charlie Kirk was
00:47:56.260 assassinated.
00:47:57.060 The left spent weeks celebrating in the
00:48:00.140 mainstream, not on the fringes, celebrating
00:48:04.460 en masse across the country.
00:48:06.620 Then they proceed to elect an attorney
00:48:08.280 general openly fantasized about killing his
00:48:10.520 political opponents and their children.
00:48:12.160 This is on the heels of years of political
00:48:14.320 violence and making excuses for political
00:48:16.880 violence, BLM, Antifa, attacks on Tesla
00:48:20.300 dealerships, on pro-life organizations.
00:48:22.400 So on and so on.
00:48:24.740 And after all that, Marjorie Taylor Greene
00:48:26.420 goes on CNN and apologizes to them for her
00:48:32.300 toxic rhetoric.
00:48:35.080 CNN is responsible for running cover for this
00:48:38.200 violent rhetoric from the left.
00:48:39.920 CNN is one of the worst offenders.
00:48:42.600 CNN gave us the fiery, but mostly peaceful
00:48:45.240 line.
00:48:47.800 Okay.
00:48:48.480 The infamous line, fiery, most, most peaceful
00:48:50.720 came from CNN.
00:48:53.400 They've never apologized for that.
00:48:55.140 They've never acknowledged it.
00:48:56.300 There's never been any walk back at all.
00:49:00.900 But when this smarmy anchor brings up toxic
00:49:03.820 rhetoric, Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn't bring
00:49:07.140 that up.
00:49:08.560 Doesn't call them out.
00:49:11.140 Doesn't throw it back in their face.
00:49:13.720 Doesn't take the opportunity to boldly stand up
00:49:16.120 to the corporate media, which is responsible for
00:49:18.520 about a million times more toxic rhetoric than any
00:49:22.960 Republican.
00:49:25.780 Doesn't do that.
00:49:26.780 Instead, she apologizes.
00:49:28.620 On CNN.
00:49:31.540 Groveling before this snide, gross news anchor who sits
00:49:35.320 there smirking.
00:49:36.620 She's loving every second of it.
00:49:38.960 She can't believe her luck.
00:49:40.340 That she's talking to a Republican and she makes this point
00:49:45.820 where, like, as a CNN anchor, you are so vulnerable making
00:49:49.680 a point like that.
00:49:50.800 There are a million comebacks that Marjorie Taylor Greene could
00:49:54.740 have used.
00:49:56.220 And instead, she says, you know what?
00:49:57.440 You're right.
00:49:57.860 I'm so sorry.
00:50:00.100 It's like, what?
00:50:02.300 What?
00:50:03.660 What are you doing?
00:50:06.440 Now, there is not any flattering interpretation of this, I'm afraid
00:50:09.480 to say.
00:50:09.920 This is not leading by example, okay?
00:50:12.400 This is not, and this is one of the many problems with all the fighting,
00:50:20.460 all the infighting on the right, is that now because Marjorie Taylor
00:50:23.440 Greene and President Trump are having a thing, and some people are
00:50:25.700 on her side and some are on Trump's side.
00:50:27.280 And so the people that are on Marjorie Taylor's Greene side, some
00:50:31.000 of them are trying to defend this.
00:50:32.660 Well, we all know.
00:50:33.600 Like, what?
00:50:35.240 You went on CNN and apologized for toxic rhetoric on CNN?
00:50:38.920 I mean, we all know that's totally unacceptable.
00:50:41.200 It's insane.
00:50:42.100 We all know that.
00:50:43.140 And there are even some people on the right that are trying to
00:50:45.000 say, well, you know, but I don't know.
00:50:47.180 I mean, I think that this is, oh, stop it.
00:50:49.160 Stop.
00:50:49.620 What are you doing?
00:50:51.900 Please.
00:50:52.220 Please.
00:50:53.440 What are you doing?
00:50:55.880 This is not leading by example, okay?
00:50:58.960 You are setting an example, but it's horrendous because the example
00:51:04.560 is allowing yourself to be used as a stooge, allowing yourself to be
00:51:11.640 humiliated by people who despise you, okay?
00:51:16.800 Not in a self-effacing, Christ-like, humble sort of manner,
00:51:21.340 but in a cowardly way.
00:51:23.220 This is not Christ-like.
00:51:25.420 Jesus would not do this.
00:51:29.780 Entertaining hypocrites, which is what CNN, that's what they are.
00:51:34.940 Hypocrites, and hypocrites in the actual definitional sense,
00:51:38.300 not hypocrites in the sense of saying one thing and doing another.
00:51:41.320 Hypocrite in the sense of claiming to believe something you don't really believe.
00:51:44.800 That's what a hypocrite is.
00:51:45.980 And when CNN gets up there and says, well, all this toxic rhetoric is very troubling,
00:51:50.280 they are hypocrites.
00:51:53.240 Okay?
00:51:53.520 This is not Christ-like.
00:51:54.460 Jesus would have called them out on that.
00:51:56.700 It's all over the Gospels.
00:52:00.180 Jesus did not suffer hypocrites.
00:52:02.580 And when the hypocrites want him to play a game, he's not going to play it.
00:52:06.240 He's not going to sit there and say, well, you're right.
00:52:08.240 No, he would have said, no, you're a hypocrite.
00:52:09.860 I'm not going to play this game for you.
00:52:11.560 Absolutely not.
00:52:13.900 I don't need to speculate about what Jesus would do.
00:52:17.080 Read the Gospels.
00:52:17.860 It's all over it.
00:52:21.500 So this is not Christ-like.
00:52:23.060 This is not anything.
00:52:23.940 This is not setting a Christian example.
00:52:26.380 This is cowardly.
00:52:28.260 This is someone who wants to keep getting invited onto CNN.
00:52:32.140 I mean, there's just no other way to explain it.
00:52:33.880 There's no other possible way.
00:52:35.760 Because if Marjorie had called Dana Bash out on her nonsense,
00:52:40.620 if she'd said something like, oh, toxic rhetoric?
00:52:43.540 Well, have you asked every Democrat in the country
00:52:45.520 why they still haven't announced the attorney general of Virginia
00:52:48.820 who wants to murder conservatives
00:52:50.540 and watch their children die in their arms?
00:52:52.660 Have you gotten that?
00:52:54.060 Let's talk about that first.
00:52:56.340 Okay, let's talk about that.
00:52:59.640 If she'd done that,
00:53:00.780 she never would have been invited on CNN ever again.
00:53:03.980 And the only way to interpret this performance
00:53:05.720 is through that lens.
00:53:06.920 She wants to go on CNN.
00:53:07.920 She wants to go back on The View.
00:53:09.540 And look, that's intoxicating, I guess.
00:53:12.920 I've never been in any of those.
00:53:14.300 I don't get invited on CNN at all.
00:53:18.040 Okay, that's the first thing.
00:53:19.760 They don't make invitations to me.
00:53:21.700 I don't get to go on CNN.
00:53:23.940 And even though I've made my audition tape for The View,
00:53:26.720 I don't think there's going to be an invitation forthcoming.
00:53:29.480 Um, but I can see, as anyone can,
00:53:35.160 that, um, yeah, being in these kind of mainstream
00:53:38.660 places, even on CNN,
00:53:42.980 where they have got like 10 viewers now, still,
00:53:45.600 it's kind of mainstream,
00:53:47.080 it's got a certain, um,
00:53:48.940 it's got a certain, whatever, uh, appeal
00:53:52.840 because of that.
00:53:55.780 And, yeah, you want to keep going on.
00:53:59.960 And I think Marjorie Taylor Greene
00:54:01.460 has started getting a little bit of
00:54:03.200 the strange new respect from the left.
00:54:07.900 And, you know, she went up,
00:54:09.260 she's been a couple of places,
00:54:10.380 she's attacking Republicans,
00:54:11.440 she goes on The View, has a nice time.
00:54:14.000 Next thing you know, CNN's calling her up.
00:54:15.680 And I'm sure they're saying very flattering things
00:54:18.660 also behind the scenes.
00:54:21.220 And, um,
00:54:22.220 so she wants to lean into that.
00:54:24.600 I mean, that's the only way to interpret this.
00:54:27.520 Because if you really feel called to apologize
00:54:29.660 for things you've said or done in the past,
00:54:32.660 well, go ahead and do it.
00:54:34.020 I mean, no one would tell you not to.
00:54:37.540 I don't really think she has anything to apologize for,
00:54:39.660 but if she really feels called to do that,
00:54:42.180 then go ahead and do that.
00:54:43.340 But to do it on CNN,
00:54:45.380 to dance like a monkey for that audience,
00:54:48.640 to go on CNN and have them say,
00:54:51.460 okay, monkey dance,
00:54:52.620 yeah, apologize.
00:54:54.340 And then to do it,
00:54:55.920 to debase yourself
00:54:57.700 and the movement you're supposed to represent
00:54:59.440 in that forum is just inexcusable.
00:55:01.720 This does set an example,
00:55:03.120 that's true,
00:55:04.040 but the example is the one CNN wants to set.
00:55:07.100 Okay, the example is not,
00:55:10.880 oh, we should all come together as Americans.
00:55:12.900 No, CNN wants to set the example
00:55:14.840 that Republicans are responsible
00:55:16.160 for the toxic rhetoric
00:55:17.220 and they need to apologize.
00:55:19.440 That is the thing
00:55:21.360 that CNN is trying to communicate.
00:55:23.140 That's why you're there.
00:55:24.680 And so you can either give them what they want
00:55:26.920 and say, okay, I'll be used by you, sure.
00:55:29.820 Or you could say, no,
00:55:31.000 I'm not going to give you that.
00:55:31.740 So this is,
00:55:39.120 she confirmed and boosted their narrative,
00:55:42.700 which is, I mean,
00:55:45.020 it's like the unforgivable sin.
00:55:46.840 I can't, going on CNN and apologizing.
00:55:49.880 There's, look, I can,
00:55:51.180 I could try to overlook a lot of things,
00:55:55.400 but groveling public apologies,
00:55:58.660 you know, I've always said this,
00:55:59.740 groveling public apologies,
00:56:00.940 that's one of those things.
00:56:02.000 I just can't, I can't.
00:56:03.620 That's unforgivable.
00:56:04.700 It just is.
00:56:06.020 And doing it on CNN of all places
00:56:07.820 to that woman of all people
00:56:10.420 is just unforgivable.
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00:58:18.560 Now let's get to our Daily Cancellation.
00:58:26.920 Recently, we discussed the new concept called mankeeping.
00:58:30.900 It's a new concept that really is just a new
00:58:33.820 and quite stupid term for a very old concept.
00:58:36.840 It's the concept that women in a romantic relationship
00:58:39.040 should care for and about the men
00:58:42.160 that they are in a relationship with.
00:58:43.960 And for as long as human relationships have existed,
00:58:45.960 this has always been a feature of them.
00:58:47.780 Indeed, caring for and about the other person
00:58:49.840 isn't just a feature of a relationship.
00:58:51.900 It is the relationship.
00:58:54.880 But in our self-centered, misinterested, feminist dystopia,
00:58:59.860 women caring for and about their own husbands
00:59:01.820 is considered controversial.
00:59:03.940 It is no longer the very essence of the relationship itself,
00:59:06.720 but a sign that somehow the relationship has gone wrong.
00:59:09.240 If you're a woman in a relationship
00:59:11.160 and you find that your relationship feels like a relationship,
00:59:14.780 then that is unfair to you.
00:59:16.840 You are the victim of mankeeping.
00:59:19.340 Over the weekend, Vice tweeted this caption
00:59:22.220 along with a link to an article about mankeeping.
00:59:24.600 And the caption says,
00:59:25.560 quote,
00:59:26.100 Managing his stress, interpreting his moods,
00:59:28.360 holding his hand through feelings
00:59:29.720 he won't share with anybody else,
00:59:31.300 all of it unpaid, unacknowledged,
00:59:33.280 and often unreciprocated.
00:59:35.020 Is it any wonder women are fed up?
00:59:37.020 Yes, interpreting moods,
00:59:40.900 listening to them talk about their feelings,
00:59:43.700 dealing with their stress.
00:59:46.420 Well, it's a good thing men never have to do any of that for women.
00:59:49.980 Women, of course, are famously stoic
00:59:52.440 and reserved about their emotions.
00:59:55.300 So men don't have to deal with this.
00:59:56.640 I wish I had a dollar for every time a male friend has said to me,
01:00:00.020 Man, I wish my wife would just open up about her feelings a little bit more.
01:00:03.480 You know, she never tells me how she feels.
01:00:04.840 And her mood never fluctuates either.
01:00:08.500 Just stone-cold, totally even keel all the time.
01:00:12.920 I've heard that from so many men.
01:00:15.280 And by so many, I mean none ever at any point.
01:00:18.140 Because, of course, men have done this for the women in their lives
01:00:21.900 every day, all day since the dawn of humanity itself.
01:00:26.800 Yet the term womankeeping was never coined.
01:00:29.480 And if it had been, it would have been condemned as horrific sexism
01:00:33.100 by precisely all of the women who are now using the term mankeeping.
01:00:38.400 This double standard has not occurred to them.
01:00:40.800 Or if it has, they don't care.
01:00:42.560 Vice explains, quote,
01:00:43.920 Researchers at Stanford have finally given a name
01:00:45.960 to something many women have been dealing with for years.
01:00:47.880 It's called mankeeping.
01:00:49.460 And it's helping explain why so many women are stepping away from dating altogether.
01:00:53.100 Mankeeping describes the emotional labor women end up doing in heterosexual relationships.
01:00:57.240 It goes beyond remembering birthdays or coordinating social plans.
01:01:00.300 It means being your partner's one-man support system.
01:01:03.360 Managing his stress, interpreting his moods,
01:01:04.920 holding his hand through feelings he won't share with anybody else,
01:01:06.960 all of it unpaid, unacknowed, and often unreciprocated.
01:01:09.000 Now, you notice there, and just a side note,
01:01:13.180 you notice how the word unpaid so often comes up
01:01:17.720 in these feminist lamentations about the alleged unfairness of heterosexual relationships.
01:01:23.880 Many times we talk about this sort of thing in the daily cancellation.
01:01:26.600 That word comes up, unpaid.
01:01:29.620 Now, a sane person who does not suffer from a psychotic level of bitterness and narcissism
01:01:35.280 would not even think to complain that the emotional support they offer to their spouse
01:01:41.900 or their girlfriend or boyfriend is unpaid.
01:01:45.940 Even at their most selfish, their most self-pitying,
01:01:48.800 the thought, I can't believe my spouse isn't paying me to care about them,
01:01:53.320 wouldn't cross their mind.
01:01:55.240 And if their spouse did offer such a payment,
01:01:58.100 they would be shocked and appalled and most of all, like, really confused.
01:02:03.160 I'm trying to imagine how my wife would react if I had a heart-to-heart talk with her.
01:02:08.220 And then after our conversation, as it concluded, I said,
01:02:13.040 so what's your hourly rate? Is it $100? Is that fair? Here you go.
01:02:18.380 Now, she might laugh, but more likely she would probably cry
01:02:22.860 because she would realize that I'd finally lost my mind.
01:02:26.460 The point is that this unpaid labor thing,
01:02:29.060 when applied to marriages and parenting,
01:02:31.080 which is the other context where feminists often use the term,
01:02:34.080 is total insanity.
01:02:35.680 And it also reveals perhaps the deepest truth about the left-wing feminist,
01:02:39.560 which is that, just to be totally frank about this,
01:02:44.040 the left-wing feminist aspires to nothing so much as to be a whore.
01:02:49.140 She wants her husband to pay her for paying attention to him.
01:02:53.380 She wants to be a prostitute.
01:02:55.080 Now, with OnlyFans, many of them actually do become prostitutes.
01:02:59.940 The rest of them choose other careers,
01:03:01.560 perhaps because they've decided, rightly in many cases,
01:03:03.640 that they're not physically attractive enough
01:03:05.420 to prostitute themselves in the most literal sense.
01:03:07.960 But prostitution, in some form or another,
01:03:10.940 remains the great dream of every liberal feminist.
01:03:13.980 Here's a little more from the article, quote,
01:03:17.480 The root of the issue is tied to what experts are calling
01:03:20.660 the male loneliness epidemic.
01:03:22.400 As more men report having fewer close friendships,
01:03:24.520 romantic partners are expected to pick up the slack.
01:03:27.040 Instead of processing with friends,
01:03:28.400 many men offload everything onto the women they're dating.
01:03:31.100 She becomes his entire emotional infrastructure.
01:03:33.360 Plenty of women are no longer interested in that dynamic.
01:03:35.880 According to Pew Research,
01:03:36.800 only 38% of single women in the U.S.
01:03:38.580 are currently looking for a relationship.
01:03:40.360 Among single men, that number jumps to 61%.
01:03:43.040 The gap says a lot.
01:03:44.780 Women aren't opting out of love,
01:03:46.080 they're opting out of being someone's therapist with benefits.
01:03:49.620 The Guardian calls mankeeping
01:03:50.880 a modern extension of emotional labor,
01:03:53.160 one that turns a partner into a life coach.
01:03:55.420 This isn't about avoiding vulnerability,
01:03:57.180 it's about refusing to carry someone else's emotional weight
01:03:59.420 while getting little to nothing in return.
01:04:01.720 And there's nothing wrong with feeling that way.
01:04:06.060 Well, actually, there is.
01:04:07.880 There's a lot wrong with feeling that way.
01:04:10.380 And look, the last time we talked about
01:04:11.840 this mankeeping nonsense,
01:04:13.140 we established, as we have again in this segment,
01:04:14.860 that the women who use the term
01:04:17.500 or complain in any way
01:04:18.960 about having to show the slightest concern
01:04:21.200 for the men they chose to marry
01:04:22.620 or even to date
01:04:24.420 are selfish, horrible cretins.
01:04:28.060 And that is the primary and most obvious takeaway.
01:04:32.160 For many stories like this,
01:04:33.480 the first takeaway
01:04:34.420 and the first one that most people go to,
01:04:36.880 rightly so,
01:04:37.540 is,
01:04:38.140 oh, well,
01:04:38.720 feminism is terrible.
01:04:40.920 Because it is.
01:04:41.760 feminism has made women,
01:04:44.220 not all women,
01:04:44.900 but the women in its grasp,
01:04:46.040 into selfish, entitled, resentful,
01:04:48.140 greedy egomaniacs
01:04:49.200 who demand financial compensation
01:04:50.840 for performing their wifely
01:04:51.960 and motherly duties.
01:04:53.680 So that is the most important point.
01:04:56.600 But
01:04:56.700 there is something else going on here
01:04:59.540 that I don't think we really got into
01:05:01.320 the first time we talked about this.
01:05:02.440 women are also complaining more
01:05:05.840 about men being emotionally vulnerable
01:05:07.740 because
01:05:08.840 a lot more men
01:05:10.660 are emotionally vulnerable.
01:05:13.260 For many decades,
01:05:14.500 men have been encouraged,
01:05:15.680 not just encouraged,
01:05:16.500 but harangued,
01:05:17.400 nagged
01:05:17.900 to soften
01:05:19.600 and open up
01:05:20.660 and
01:05:20.860 be more honest
01:05:22.380 about how they feel.
01:05:24.140 And
01:05:24.540 this has been going on
01:05:25.560 for a long time.
01:05:26.860 It was always a trap.
01:05:29.440 And there were a lot of us
01:05:30.620 who were saying,
01:05:31.240 this is a trap, guys.
01:05:32.080 Don't fall for it.
01:05:33.920 And unfortunately,
01:05:35.240 a lot of men didn't listen to us
01:05:36.420 and they've fallen into it.
01:05:38.680 It's undoubtedly true
01:05:39.920 that all of the women
01:05:40.920 complaining about mankeeping
01:05:42.160 are despicable feminist harpies,
01:05:44.280 but
01:05:44.460 this is also undoubtedly true.
01:05:47.540 No woman on the planet
01:05:49.160 actually wants her husband
01:05:51.920 to be as emotionally vulnerable
01:05:53.880 with her
01:05:54.720 as she is with him.
01:05:59.100 And
01:05:59.260 so there is a double standard here.
01:06:01.580 And
01:06:01.960 I'm not talking about
01:06:03.060 the feminist double standard.
01:06:04.920 I mean,
01:06:05.480 there's another
01:06:07.000 like deeper double standard
01:06:08.280 that is
01:06:09.340 hardwired.
01:06:10.480 It's ingrained
01:06:11.060 into us biologically.
01:06:13.640 Any woman
01:06:14.520 whose husband
01:06:15.140 leans on her emotionally
01:06:16.520 to the same degree
01:06:18.000 and in the same way
01:06:19.320 that she leans on him
01:06:21.400 will feel
01:06:23.080 exhausted
01:06:23.740 and overwhelmed
01:06:24.340 and ultimately resentful
01:06:25.600 because of it.
01:06:26.160 And that's not her fault.
01:06:28.740 It's nature.
01:06:30.760 Men and women
01:06:31.200 are different.
01:06:33.180 Okay,
01:06:33.340 this is the revelation
01:06:34.160 that we always come back to.
01:06:35.820 Men and women
01:06:36.500 are actually different.
01:06:38.540 A woman
01:06:39.300 with an overly sensitive
01:06:40.480 and emotionally frail husband
01:06:41.780 will feel
01:06:43.180 like she's carrying
01:06:44.420 a disproportionate amount
01:06:45.740 of the emotional weight
01:06:46.700 in the marriage
01:06:47.260 when in fact
01:06:48.400 it's technically equal weight.
01:06:50.720 Right?
01:06:51.860 So he's doing with her
01:06:53.380 what she does with him
01:06:54.140 so technically it's equal.
01:06:57.020 She's not going to feel like that.
01:06:58.460 She's going to feel like
01:06:59.180 she's carrying
01:06:59.800 way more of it
01:07:01.480 for the same reason
01:07:03.120 that like if I ask my wife
01:07:04.520 to help me move
01:07:05.440 a couch downstairs
01:07:06.320 she will strain
01:07:08.520 under the weight of the couch
01:07:09.520 much more than I will.
01:07:11.180 It will feel like
01:07:12.080 an unequal burden
01:07:13.120 even though we're both
01:07:14.160 carrying the same amount of weight.
01:07:15.520 The difference is that
01:07:16.300 I'm a man.
01:07:18.340 I was built to move couches.
01:07:19.880 Because
01:07:20.000 she was not.
01:07:21.900 And so it's harder for her
01:07:23.040 and that's not because
01:07:24.260 she's selfish or flawed
01:07:25.500 in some way.
01:07:26.900 It's not her fault.
01:07:28.080 She's just different.
01:07:28.860 She's a woman.
01:07:29.880 It's harder for her
01:07:30.820 to move the couch.
01:07:32.900 And emotional weight
01:07:33.920 is the same sort of thing.
01:07:36.060 You know,
01:07:36.300 if your wife unloads
01:07:37.300 all of her fears
01:07:37.960 and anxieties onto you
01:07:39.100 and you unload
01:07:40.120 all of yours onto her
01:07:41.400 she will feel like
01:07:44.000 she's carrying
01:07:45.000 an undue amount
01:07:45.740 of the burden
01:07:46.500 even though it's equal.
01:07:47.760 But it's not really equal
01:07:48.780 because, again,
01:07:50.180 she's a woman
01:07:50.780 and you're a man.
01:07:51.640 You're supposed to carry
01:07:52.820 an unequal amount
01:07:55.560 of the fear and worry.
01:07:58.920 You're supposed to.
01:07:59.980 You're built for that
01:08:00.880 as a man.
01:08:02.700 You're not supposed to
01:08:04.220 go home
01:08:05.500 and tell your wife
01:08:06.960 about every last thing
01:08:08.360 you're worried about
01:08:09.620 and stressed about.
01:08:11.140 There are supposed to be things
01:08:12.480 that you just keep to yourself
01:08:13.720 and you carry as a man.
01:08:14.900 That's what men are supposed to.
01:08:15.740 That's what men have always done.
01:08:18.780 That's what women
01:08:19.740 expect men to do.
01:08:21.480 Even if they won't say it
01:08:22.640 because they feel bad
01:08:23.320 saying it.
01:08:23.640 They don't even know that.
01:08:24.540 Even if they don't
01:08:25.300 at this point
01:08:25.800 know that they want that
01:08:27.060 because their minds
01:08:28.680 are so frayed by feminism
01:08:30.200 it still is
01:08:31.620 it's biological.
01:08:33.920 Now,
01:08:34.140 I've used this example
01:08:35.000 a few times
01:08:35.560 because I think it illustrates
01:08:36.320 the point effectively
01:08:37.180 because anytime I say this
01:08:38.720 there's always people
01:08:39.540 objecting, of course.
01:08:41.620 So how could you say
01:08:42.260 that men are supposed to
01:08:43.260 oh, men should open up
01:08:45.160 and why can't they open up
01:08:46.420 and be honest
01:08:47.980 about how they feel?
01:08:49.180 Well,
01:08:49.780 here's the example
01:08:51.420 I think kind of illustrates this.
01:08:52.580 If you're a married man
01:08:53.540 you have probably seen
01:08:56.260 your wife cry.
01:08:58.900 You've probably seen her cry
01:09:00.020 many times
01:09:00.780 in general
01:09:01.940 but you've probably seen
01:09:03.720 times when she's cried
01:09:04.780 because she had
01:09:05.660 a stressful day
01:09:06.460 and I don't mean that
01:09:07.440 it's because anything
01:09:08.220 traumatic occurred
01:09:09.380 to her.
01:09:10.400 We're not talking about that.
01:09:12.300 Trauma is one thing.
01:09:13.800 But I mean
01:09:13.980 she just had a stressful day.
01:09:15.940 Like nothing really terrible
01:09:16.840 happened.
01:09:17.180 It's just a stressful day.
01:09:18.700 And there's nothing
01:09:19.280 unusual about this.
01:09:21.400 Right?
01:09:21.680 And as the husband
01:09:22.460 it's not difficult
01:09:23.940 for you to deal with.
01:09:25.440 She wants to be comforted
01:09:26.500 so you comfort her.
01:09:27.240 She's looking for someone
01:09:28.300 who's, you know
01:09:28.720 she just wants you
01:09:29.340 to be a solid
01:09:30.360 you know
01:09:31.240 presence
01:09:31.680 and
01:09:32.000 a strong presence
01:09:34.500 and so she's just
01:09:35.380 kind of offloading
01:09:36.220 the stress that she has.
01:09:37.600 All of that is normal.
01:09:39.800 Now
01:09:40.200 on the flip side
01:09:41.120 we all understand
01:09:42.900 on a visceral level
01:09:44.000 that it would be
01:09:45.860 bizarre and upsetting
01:09:47.120 for your wife
01:09:48.900 if you came home
01:09:50.660 from work
01:09:51.180 and started crying
01:09:52.300 over the stress
01:09:53.440 that you're feeling.
01:09:54.340 And not because
01:09:54.740 something actually
01:09:55.220 traumatic happened.
01:09:55.980 I don't mean that
01:09:56.540 okay you're a cop
01:09:57.780 and there was something
01:09:58.620 horrible and someone
01:09:59.580 died and you know
01:10:00.340 we're not talking
01:10:00.960 about that.
01:10:01.300 I just mean
01:10:02.080 you had a tough day
01:10:03.180 at the office
01:10:03.640 like normal stress.
01:10:06.540 Okay if you came home
01:10:07.520 and started
01:10:07.920 and you were crying
01:10:09.820 and your wife said
01:10:11.580 what's wrong
01:10:12.280 I just had a really hard day
01:10:13.640 it's just a tough day
01:10:14.760 there's a lot going on
01:10:15.680 and you're just
01:10:16.840 sobbing
01:10:17.760 on your couch
01:10:18.680 in front of your wife
01:10:19.880 and your children
01:10:20.500 I think we all
01:10:21.960 understand viscerally
01:10:22.840 that that's
01:10:23.320 you shouldn't do that
01:10:24.100 as a man.
01:10:26.140 Well are you saying
01:10:26.780 it's okay for a woman
01:10:27.760 to do but not a man?
01:10:28.720 Yes.
01:10:30.180 Absolutely.
01:10:31.220 That's exactly
01:10:32.060 what I'm saying.
01:10:33.220 And this display
01:10:34.000 of weakness
01:10:34.580 and emotional
01:10:35.200 dysregulation
01:10:36.020 will be a burden
01:10:37.620 on your wife
01:10:38.600 in a way
01:10:39.480 that the same scene
01:10:40.960 in the reverse
01:10:41.720 would not be
01:10:43.060 for you.
01:10:44.020 Why?
01:10:44.460 Well again
01:10:44.940 men and women
01:10:45.800 are different.
01:10:47.260 And this is one
01:10:47.720 of the reasons
01:10:48.020 why the 50-50 approach
01:10:49.280 doesn't work
01:10:49.860 in a marriage.
01:10:50.400 There is no way
01:10:50.980 to judge
01:10:51.620 what constitutes
01:10:52.460 50% of the work
01:10:53.680 in a marriage
01:10:54.160 because all of the work
01:10:55.660 is weighted differently
01:10:56.900 depending on whether
01:10:58.320 a man or woman
01:10:59.180 is doing it.
01:11:01.060 And I'm certainly
01:11:01.720 not saying that
01:11:02.240 all of the hard tasks
01:11:03.400 in a marriage
01:11:03.960 or in a family
01:11:04.460 are easier for men.
01:11:06.160 Sometimes it goes
01:11:06.820 the other way.
01:11:08.480 Right?
01:11:08.640 For example
01:11:08.960 my wife is very good
01:11:10.160 as wives should be
01:11:13.560 at managing the house.
01:11:15.260 And that means like
01:11:16.220 keeping everything
01:11:16.980 clean and orderly
01:11:17.720 making sure the kids
01:11:18.600 are fed
01:11:19.260 schedules are kept
01:11:20.200 everyone gets
01:11:21.180 where they need to go
01:11:21.980 and everyone's got
01:11:22.740 we got six kids
01:11:23.260 everyone's going
01:11:23.600 to a million different places
01:11:24.360 and you know
01:11:25.380 they're all wearing
01:11:25.920 the appropriate attire
01:11:26.800 for whatever thing
01:11:27.440 they're going to
01:11:28.220 be going to
01:11:28.840 and everything
01:11:29.920 etc.
01:11:30.540 etc.
01:11:30.740 etc.
01:11:30.980 Right?
01:11:32.160 She's much better
01:11:33.120 at that
01:11:33.980 than I am
01:11:35.440 and if we were
01:11:36.260 to split that task
01:11:37.520 50-50
01:11:38.260 maybe one week
01:11:39.900 she plays the role
01:11:40.980 of household manager
01:11:41.820 the next week
01:11:42.440 I play it
01:11:42.960 it would not be the case
01:11:45.220 that the burden
01:11:45.860 is equally shared
01:11:46.740 because it would be much
01:11:47.400 I would be much
01:11:48.540 more burdened
01:11:49.880 by my 50%
01:11:50.980 than she is
01:11:52.140 by her 50%
01:11:53.140 because she's
01:11:54.820 more suited
01:11:55.420 to that
01:11:56.540 than I am
01:11:57.220 because I'm a man
01:11:59.340 and she's a woman
01:12:00.000 and a lot of marriages
01:12:02.540 are struggling
01:12:03.120 and both spouses
01:12:04.140 feel resentment
01:12:04.800 and anger
01:12:05.360 anger they don't
01:12:06.940 even understand
01:12:07.660 because they refuse
01:12:09.100 to accept
01:12:09.800 this basic truth
01:12:10.860 because the culture
01:12:13.120 has told them
01:12:13.800 it isn't true
01:12:14.480 but it is
01:12:17.260 men and women
01:12:18.660 are different
01:12:19.060 and that's why
01:12:21.060 your wife
01:12:21.560 can and should
01:12:22.380 be more
01:12:23.040 emotionally vulnerable
01:12:24.100 than you
01:12:24.880 it's unequal
01:12:27.540 yes
01:12:28.000 men and women
01:12:29.140 are unequal
01:12:29.640 and that's okay
01:12:32.660 just as long
01:12:34.880 as she doesn't
01:12:35.280 use the term
01:12:35.820 man keeping
01:12:36.460 which is definitely
01:12:37.260 not okay
01:12:37.820 because that term
01:12:38.880 is today
01:12:39.560 once again
01:12:41.200 cancelled
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