The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1720 - Woke TV Is Back With A Vengeance In This New Paramount Show

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00:00:20.780 only in theaters January 30th. Today on the Matt Wall Show we will do a deep dive into what may

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00:00:56.560 Normally Stephen Miller, the White House Homeland Security Advisor, spends his time focusing on

00:01:20.320 major issues facing this country and the world at large like removing illegal aliens from the U.S.,

00:01:26.060 purchasing Greenland, deposing South American communists, and so on. But every now and then

00:01:30.880 Stephen Miller weighs in on topics that at least on the surface and also several layers below the

00:01:36.220 surface don't seem quite as important. So for example, the other day Miller offered his assessment

00:01:41.000 of the new Star Trek show on Paramount Plus called Starfleet Academy. And here's what Miller wrote.

00:01:46.980 Not exactly a flattering review, but here's what he said. Tragic, but it's not too late for Paramount Plus

00:01:52.700 to save the franchise. Step one, reconcile with William Shatner and give him total creative control.

00:01:57.720 Now Shatner, who of course played Captain Kirk in the original show, responded and he said this,

00:02:04.520 I'm on the same page with you, Stephen Miller. Shatner also called out some abysmal oversights by the

00:02:10.080 writers and wrote, quote, shame on the line producers. I'm ready to assume command of the series.

00:02:15.140 Now seeing this exchange, it occurred to me that this new Star Trek show is an ideal target for

00:02:21.740 a deep dive, sort of like the one we did Thanksgiving week with Ken Burns' documentary

00:02:27.520 about the American Revolution. And that's not because anyone should care about a new streaming

00:02:32.200 show that's, you know, total garbage. Those are a dime a dozen. Well, except that these garbage streaming

00:02:38.340 shows somehow cost like a hundred million dollars to make. So it's more like 1.2 billion a dozen,

00:02:43.920 I guess, but, but I digress. The reason we should talk about the state of Star Trek as a franchise,

00:02:49.540 and the reason Stephen Miller probably chimed in is that it's a useful window into what the modern

00:02:57.220 left has become and where they went wrong and how to defeat them. And on top of that, some of the

00:03:02.420 scenes in this new show are genuinely hilarious, unintentionally, of course, and it will be

00:03:08.420 highly enjoyable to mock them. And also as a certified Trekkie, I am more than qualified to

00:03:15.120 weigh in here. You know, I've been watching Star Trek ever since the days when Frodo and Hermione were

00:03:20.720 battling Dr. Doom on the Death Star. So I know a lot about this series. I know a lot about the lore

00:03:25.760 behind it. I have a lot of respect for it. Now, yes, it's true that Star Trek began in the 1960s as a

00:03:31.840 progressive liberal show by the standards of the day. And they weren't exactly subtle with the

00:03:36.500 messaging about equality. They had a black woman on the bridge serving as a communications officer,

00:03:41.220 which was unusual at the time. And by the time the movies came out, the writers decided that in the

00:03:46.400 Star Trek universe, there was no money. Everyone just worked for free to improve mankind. It was like

00:03:51.000 a communist utopia. But in those early communist Star Trek shows, there were still some elements that

00:03:57.780 you would describe, at least by modern standards, as right wing. Everybody in the crew was physically

00:04:03.360 fit, which you'd expect from the crew of a military vessel. There was no body positivity movement going

00:04:08.500 on. The leaders were all highly competent, decisive men. The officers talked to one another like serious

00:04:14.840 people who understood the gravity of their positions. As the author Isaac Young put it,

00:04:20.400 Star Trek's beating heart was a professional 19th century naval crew in space. It was basically a love

00:04:25.700 letter to right wing aristocracy and professionalism with a left wing coat of paint. And you can

00:04:31.440 literally pinpoint the exact second it died by the BMI of the cast. And more importantly, the old

00:04:38.040 Star Trek shows explicitly rejected the idea that everybody is a blank slate. Every species on the

00:04:44.480 ship was distinct in significant ways. According to my producers, who wouldn't lie to me about something

00:04:50.000 like this, the Klingons were the warriors who were obsessed with honor and violence. The Vulcans were

00:04:55.820 cold and unemotional, but highly logical. The Ferengi were scheming and untrustworthy and so on.

00:05:03.120 Ferengi sound to me like some kind of parasitic infection you pick up in an African jungle, but

00:05:07.080 apparently they're an alien species in Star Trek. The point is that these differences weren't inherently

00:05:12.260 good or bad. They were just unavoidable, consistent differences. That's how liberals and most

00:05:17.420 communists, including Gene Roddenberry, the creator of the series, used to view the world. They

00:05:21.420 recognized differences between large groups of people, and they wrote a show about those people,

00:05:26.440 you know, getting along sometimes. But new Star Trek, like modern leftists, takes a very different

00:05:32.640 approach. They enforce the fiction of blank slateism, meaning that everybody starts life with a blank slate.

00:05:39.580 And under this worldview, no particular demographic has any inherent advantage or disadvantage over

00:05:45.620 another. We're all the same. We're just molded by our environment. Now, this is unscientific and

00:05:52.140 factually obviously wrong, but it's a core tenet of modern leftism. And that's why at every opportunity,

00:05:59.160 Starfleet Academy on Paramount Plus takes pains to push this blank slateist lie. For example,

00:06:06.660 no longer are Klingons a warrior race that are fixated on honor and warfare. Instead,

00:06:11.520 they're now into science and, for some reason, birdwatching.

00:06:17.080 I see you declared early. Molecular biology and regenerative therapies.

00:06:23.720 Do no harm's not a phrase you hear a whole lot in Klingon.

00:06:27.160 And why do you not yearn for the honor of a valiant death in battle like the rest of our kind, Cadet Krah?

00:06:33.520 Because I yearn for a valiant life, Cadet Master.

00:06:38.980 I watch birds. My mother, she taught me to see the beauty in things.

00:06:51.140 Nice.

00:06:55.940 I can't believe that's a real show. It's real. So, and you can already see that racial diversity was

00:07:04.020 very, very important to the writers of the show. Unfortunately, writing was not important to the

00:07:09.180 writers of the show. A lot of people have accused Starfleet Academy of having bad acting,

00:07:14.220 which it does, but you can't blame the actors. I mean, think about the dialogue here. Okay.

00:07:21.220 Think about the dialogue. One character says, I watch birds. They're beautiful.

00:07:27.500 And then the other says, nice. How did that, an actual writer who writes scripts, a screenwriter

00:07:37.760 wrote that dialogue and it passed through all the producers and everything that had, many

00:07:45.640 people touched this script and every single one of them looked at that line of dialogue.

00:07:50.280 I watch birds. They're beautiful. Nice. Every single one of them looked at that and said,

00:08:01.020 that's great dialogue. Yeah, we need that in the show. We need to film that. We need that scene in

00:08:06.260 this show. It's got to be in there. In the first episode. What do you want an actor to do with that?

00:08:12.960 I mean, you tried delivering those lines in an award-winning way. Daniel Day-Lewis could not

00:08:19.160 elevate that material. It's impossible, but at least it really subverts your expectations to have a gay

00:08:24.660 birdwatching Klingon. And more to the point, it completely erases anything unique about the entire

00:08:29.460 race. And of course, the people who are writing this trash, the people who are going out of their

00:08:33.520 way to turn traditionally masculine characters into effeminate birdwatchers are women. A large

00:08:39.040 portion of the writing staff of the show, including the lead writer and showrunner are women.

00:08:43.700 And we've talked about this before, how all of these terrible shows, like almost all of them

00:08:49.300 are just written by women. Women took over all these jobs and then the quality just cratered into

00:08:57.500 the earth. And what they're showing us now is exactly how liberal women see the world in 2026.

00:09:05.000 For instance, judging by the show, liberal women still haven't recovered from Donald Trump's first

00:09:09.360 term, which we know, I mean, not just from the show, but you know, just turn on, turn on the news.

00:09:14.280 They're still very upset about the fact that when parents commit crimes, they're separated from their

00:09:19.600 children. In fact, that's the plot device that Starfleet Academy uses in order to put the entire

00:09:24.760 show in motion. The show begins with the villain, a white guy, of course, played by, played by Paul

00:09:30.420 Giamatti, who is way, way too talented to be here. I felt I was, this is the one emotional reaction I got

00:09:38.600 from watching, uh, this, the first episode is, is deep sadness when Paul Giamatti shows up like Paul

00:09:47.720 Giamatti on Starfleet Academy. It's like if Marlon Brando was still alive and played the villain on

00:09:52.640 the fifth season of Stranger Things, opposite a bunch of actors who wouldn't get the job if they

00:09:57.820 auditioned for a high school play. So anyway, Giamatti, who, who must be working to pay off some serious

00:10:03.040 gambling debts or something, plays a character who's working with an impoverished woman to commit a

00:10:07.800 space robbery and a Starfleet officer is ultimately murdered during the robbery. And by any measure,

00:10:12.800 this crime means that both Paul Giamatti and the mother should go to prison for a very long time.

00:10:16.420 You know, instead they throw the book at Giamatti and the mother has to go to rehab, you know,

00:10:21.000 rehab for committing felony murder. That's an extremely lenient sentence for the mother by any measure.

00:10:26.120 She commits robbery and murder and her sentence is to talk about her feelings. But the show immediately

00:10:32.180 tells us that in fact, uh, it's, uh, it's the sentence is a great travesty of justice and that's

00:10:37.320 because the mother in order to go to rehab has to be separated from her child who's taken into custody

00:10:41.900 of Starfleet. The Starfleet woman who issues the sentence played by Holly Hunter, who's, uh, very

00:10:47.500 difficult to understand when she talks, which is also like another problem with being a character in a

00:10:52.840 show or certainly a leadership position on a spaceship. Uh, but she comes to regret it. She has a full-on

00:10:58.020 meltdown, uh, about it. She quits her job and Starfleet becomes a teacher. And that leads to this remarkable

00:11:03.420 scene where a high-ranking officer tries to convince her to go back to work. This is one of the most

00:11:08.120 cliche kinds of scenes in shows like this, but usually in a show, this is the scene where it's like a

00:11:14.440 grizzled old, uh, you know, assassin or something or military commander like Liam Neeson. And, uh, we got to go

00:11:23.260 and there's a really bad guy out there and we got to go find him and kill him. But there's only one guy

00:11:27.320 who can do it and it's gotta be you. We need you to come back for one last rodeo. That's usually how

00:11:31.700 it goes. And you can kind of tell in the world of the show why they feel like this is the only guy

00:11:37.100 who can do this. I mean, it's Liam Neeson, but in this case, the only person they need is this just

00:11:44.720 like small, petite blonde woman. We need you. No one else can do this. And, um, anyway, here's how that

00:11:52.980 scene goes. Anyone here? A captain who resigned in disgrace? Oh wait, that's me. A captain who

00:12:00.700 resigned because we separated the mother and child. I separated them. You didn't have a choice. No.

00:12:07.700 Here's the thing. I did. I could have refused. Pulled some kind of bait and switch with the

00:12:13.200 prosecution, taking the heat later. It wouldn't have changed anything. We were in Tria. Starfleet

00:12:18.000 wasn't making any exceptions. Separating children from their parents isn't exceptional. It's

00:12:22.680 reprehensible. So you resigned because you still remember how the Federation used to be and felt

00:12:28.980 we weren't living up to our principles. Don't make me pure of heart. A lot of people agreed

00:12:34.220 with you. Well, you didn't. I was dead wrong now.

00:12:36.680 There's so many things about these modern shows that just like, none of it, none of it is right.

00:12:46.460 It all just, none of it works. And sometimes in ways that it's not even immediately clear. It was

00:12:51.120 a lot of ways where it doesn't work and it's clear why. But then the other thing you notice is that all,

00:12:55.520 again, all these shows are written by women, not just women, but liberal millennial women.

00:12:59.860 And so the characters, even if they're older or if they're supposed to be exist in the future or

00:13:04.460 whatever, um, they speak with like, like, like with the, with the kind of affectation and the

00:13:11.980 sarcasm of a liberal millennial woman. So that's where we get the line where she goes, you ever hear

00:13:20.240 of a disgrace captain? Oh wait, that's me. So it's like, that doesn't even make sense for a woman of

00:13:27.920 that age to be speaking that way. Uh, and also another way to date the show, everyone could tell

00:13:34.180 that they wrote this a decade ago. You know, the left doesn't pretend to care about family separations

00:13:38.620 anymore. Remember when that was the big thing, they're separating families. Now they're not even

00:13:43.840 doing that anymore. They're just straight up admitting that in their view, any enforcement of

00:13:48.580 immigration law is wrong, period. Even if you're deporting individual, uh, grown men who have no

00:13:57.380 families and are also sex offenders that we also are against. They've said no. So they've dropped

00:14:03.440 the pretext of being outraged by family separations. But in Star Trek, apparently they're still hung up

00:14:07.960 about the fact that if you murder someone, you'll get separated from your family. You know, if you

00:14:12.100 have a child, you should be able to commit any crime you want. Um, according to the liberal women,

00:14:16.100 even though liberal women also think that it's okay to kill your child. So the worst thing in the

00:14:21.020 world is to separate a child from his mother, unless you just kill the child, in which case that's okay.

00:14:25.860 Right. So that's their position. And then we learned that in fact, the entire show is going

00:14:30.060 to be a power fantasy for the white liberal woman who's been frozen in a time capsule since 2017.

00:14:35.920 The white female captain decides to track down the child 15 years later, offer him a career in

00:14:40.100 Starfleet, even though by that point he's become a criminal himself. Uh, watch.

00:14:46.920 You and your mother were separated. Separated? Is that what you tell yourself?

00:14:51.100 I just know what I tell myself. I tell myself, we made a horrible,

00:14:57.260 catastrophic decision that robbed you and your mother of a future.

00:15:03.880 So I quit. And I've been looking for you every single day for the last 15 years.

00:15:09.200 So this is the dream of every leftist woman who voted for Kamala Harris. They dream of, uh, you know,

00:15:21.560 breaking oppressed, multiracial, illegal aliens and other criminals out of prison.

00:15:26.580 You know, I mean, they're, they're, they're real fantasy. It's all played out right there.

00:15:30.560 Is everything that a liberal white woman wants. You break a, a, uh, uh, a non-white illegal immigrant

00:15:39.800 out of jail and then apologize to them. That's the ultimate fantasy for a liberal white woman.

00:15:47.120 Everything they want in life right there. You break the dangerous black criminal out of jail

00:15:53.880 and immediately apologize. And of course in this show, spoiler alert, uh, the multiracial criminal

00:16:02.440 saves the ship in the end. So he's, uh, he reprograms, it's like he, he reprograms the villain's

00:16:07.440 goo that that's like eating the ship alive or something like that. It's weird. So, uh, he's a

00:16:11.680 genius in addition to being a criminal. He's far smarter than any of the professional officers on the

00:16:15.160 ship somehow. All he needed was a better environment and for his mother to get away with murder and

00:16:19.840 everything would be fine. This is the blank slate fantasy that underlies leftism. And at some level,

00:16:23.880 they know it's a fantasy because they don't pretend to take anything in the show. Seriously.

00:16:28.200 The old shows would at least try to present thoughtful, intelligent content, but throughout

00:16:32.280 Starfleet Academy, the female captain sits in her chair, like a cat lady who's lounging at her house,

00:16:37.640 watching, you know, reruns of Grey's Anatomy. She keeps the same posture, even when the ship is

00:16:43.040 being attacked and, uh, nearly. Yeah. Right. So the ship's being attacked. Everyone's going to die.

00:16:48.660 And she's, she's curled up on the seat. This is what, you know, this,

00:16:53.620 that's command posture. That's how you sit when you want it, when you want to be taken seriously

00:16:58.220 and have everyone respect you. That's how you sit with your knees up, curled up in the fetal

00:17:03.360 position on the chair. Um, and sometimes she has her glasses on, you know, because the show that

00:17:08.360 she's smart because in the future, they've figured out intergalactic space travel and teleportation,

00:17:12.480 but not optometry. And by the way, speaking of that attack on the ship, the big dramatic moment

00:17:17.720 in the show, it gave us yet another insight into the IQ of the writer's room. So see if you notice

00:17:22.300 anything odd about the dialogue in this scene.

00:17:25.300 Emergency evasive. Multiple systems overload, Captain. Primary power at 86% and falling.

00:17:32.040 All remaining power to forward shields. Open a channel to Starfleet Command.

00:17:35.320 This is Captain Atnia, the USS Athena, calling Starfleet Command. Repeat.

00:17:39.760 10%. USS Athena under attack by the Venari Rock.

00:17:43.160 Recon. Damage to multiple decks, Captain, including crew quarters.

00:17:46.800 Bridge to the doctor. Doctor, report.

00:17:49.400 A little busy here, Captain. The explosion damaged our emergency hollow emitters. Medical

00:17:55.220 staff is in short supply right now. From what I can see, there are multiple injuries, both

00:17:59.180 cadet and officers, but no casualties. Let me know if that changes.

00:18:03.040 If we could avoid another direct hit, that would be super helpful.

00:18:06.300 There's the millennial cringe sarcasm again. If we could avoid another direct hit, that would

00:18:17.440 be super. If we could, if we could just avoid another direct hit, I mean, that would be super.

00:18:24.120 This is a 70-year-old man on a spaceship in the future.

00:18:29.940 Speaking like a 33-year-old female gender studies major, uh, graduate, whatever.

00:18:37.260 So they've got a ton of injuries. That wasn't the point there. They had a ton of injuries on the shoe, uh, on the, on the crew.

00:18:42.940 Things are blowing up. People are seriously hurt. Uh, some senior officers have been impaled in fact, but on the bright side, there are no casualties.

00:18:50.020 Now, not to nitpick, but somehow through the entire production of the show, none of the 15 executive producers or the 20 writers or the crew members or the actors or the directors picked up on the fact that a seriously injured individual counts as a casualty.

00:19:06.580 Saying we have a number of serious injuries, but no casualties is saying we have a number of casualties, but no casualties.

00:19:14.800 The show made it all the way through production without a single person noticing that the doctor of the ship doesn't know what a casualty is.

00:19:22.180 Now, a few minutes earlier, when the attack begins, there was another technical error, uh, that I'll point out just cause why not?

00:19:28.920 This one admittedly is, it's a little hard spot, but if you're watching the video version of the podcast, uh, see if you can identify it.

00:19:34.620 Captain, I'm picking up sources of tachyon interference, 100,000 kilometers to port.

00:19:50.380 12 contacts incoming.

00:19:52.200 Retreat your sensors. Red alert, raise shields. Target those contacts and take them out. Get to the kids.

00:19:57.940 Okay. So again, not the biggest deal, but they say that the incoming fire is coming from the port side of the ship and then they cut to the CGI shot where the fire is clearly coming from the starboard side.

00:20:22.700 Now it's obvious what happened here. The woman writing the show, who was probably all hot and bothered by all the fan fiction.

00:20:28.660 She was writing about rescuing a multiracial criminal and turning them into a Starfleet officer quickly looked up the definition of port.

00:20:34.580 And she learned from chat GPT, which also wrote most of the script for that port means the left side of the ship when facing the front.

00:20:40.900 But for this definition to work, you have to understand that you're facing the front of the ship while facing in the same direction as the bow of the ship.

00:20:48.480 And so you can see in this diagram, port is the red portion of the diagram.

00:20:54.420 So in this CGI shot, the weapons are hitting the starboard section of the ship, not the port.

00:20:59.580 And in a show with any standards, they'd be embarrassed by this.

00:21:02.460 The bridge crew on the ship is supposed to consist of professional, highly trained officers, but they don't know the difference between port and starboard.

00:21:08.400 And of course, the point of modern storytelling in Hollywood, though, isn't to create a realistic environment or believable dialogue.

00:21:16.940 Instead, they're contractually obligated to shoehorn as much leftist ideology as possible into the episode.

00:21:22.040 And to that end, we're introduced to a jerk character among the cadets who, of course, is played by a white actor.

00:21:26.940 So the villain and the jerk cadet are both white men.

00:21:30.620 But to the extent that white people are portrayed positively in the show, which they very rarely are,

00:21:35.360 they're either salivating over criminals or they're lesbians delivering DEI struggle sessions.

00:21:40.560 So this is from episode two.

00:21:41.740 It's a viral clip that you may have seen already, but let's enjoy it again.

00:21:48.040 Watch.

00:21:48.760 Name of this cadet.

00:21:50.280 Being a cadet in Starfleet Academy means being open to the people around you.

00:22:02.240 And that connection is where time and space really live.

00:22:07.060 I don't need connection.

00:22:07.900 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:08.540 You're a genius who owns all the suffering.

00:22:11.280 I only know two things, kid.

00:22:13.220 Number one, old age and treachery always triumph over youth and a smart mouth.

00:22:18.880 Oscar Wilde.

00:22:20.340 Love that dude.

00:22:22.140 Fun fact, when he died, they had to put glass over his tombstone because people kept trying to make out with it.

00:22:28.000 Number two, a smart mouth isn't worth a damn.

00:22:32.960 The acting is so bad.

00:22:34.440 Now, one thing you immediately notice when you watch these woke streaming shows, aside from the bad dialogue, bad acting, all that, is just how bad they look.

00:22:42.320 Now, putting aside the atrocious chat GPT dialogue, the wooden lifeless acting, it just looks cheap, even though they spend more than $10 million an episode.

00:22:51.420 This is one of the weirdest phenomenons you find in modern Hollywood, is that they're spending zillions of dollars making this stuff, and it looks terrible.

00:23:03.700 The stuff looked better 30 years ago.

00:23:07.440 I mean, they had better sets with more character in the 1960s.

00:23:10.260 From the looks of it, it appears they shot the entire season of Starfleet Academy at, like, a Chuck E. Cheese.

00:23:16.380 And then they hired the employees of Chuck E. Cheese to be the lead actors in the show.

00:23:22.700 Which, okay, that's one way to save money.

00:23:24.720 How did it cost you $10 million an episode?

00:23:27.760 I could have done that for 50 grand.

00:23:30.280 Now, the rest of episode two isn't much better.

00:23:34.240 They have a telepathic species using sign language for the first time in the show's history as a way to appeal to the deaf community.

00:23:40.360 So, yes, in the future, telepaths, who, by definition, have an extremely advanced system of communication that's beyond human comprehension,

00:23:46.540 are also using sign language, which is just random spastic hand movements that no one, including deaf people, actually understand.

00:23:52.480 They apparently retconned this, changing the way the whole species works just for the sake of, you know, adding in more diversity.

00:23:58.500 Then they explain the rest of the episode telling us that walls are bad and that Donald Trump's a bad man because he built a border wall.

00:24:04.760 And, again, parts of the show were definitely written like a decade ago.

00:24:07.680 Then, in a more modern touch, they also tell us that the multiracial criminal isn't actually a bad guy because he didn't get due process.

00:24:13.420 So, you know, this is the Kilmar Abrego-Garcia reference.

00:24:18.560 Watch.

00:24:19.840 The Federation allowed me to question standards.

00:24:23.720 Question or lower them by allowing a criminal into your academy.

00:24:28.680 You're referring to Cadet Mir.

00:24:31.140 Oh, thank you so much.

00:24:32.480 Those allegations were never subject to judicial review or due process and occurred outside our jurisdiction.

00:24:39.120 So, he's not a criminal here.

00:24:41.700 Yet.

00:24:43.420 Academy admission traditionally includes a six-week preparatory program,

00:24:48.260 followed by a rigorous entrance exam and intense psychological scrutiny.

00:24:53.500 Was Mir exempt from these?

00:24:55.160 He passed the exam in the 98th percentile while sitting in the back of a shuttle.

00:25:02.340 I lived in the Jannarin Sanctuary and swam in the Opal Sea.

00:25:06.420 Bay de Zed was paradise.

00:25:09.200 Some of the bravest, kindest people I've ever met.

00:25:11.920 It seems to me, sir, that you're allowing your walls to define you now.

00:25:15.680 Now, first of all, even if you commit a crime outside of a jurisdiction,

00:25:21.060 you can still be considered a criminal in that jurisdiction.

00:25:23.340 If a high school student commits some heinous crime in Tokyo and somehow escapes to the United States,

00:25:28.940 the United States will still definitely treat him like a criminal.

00:25:32.740 We certainly wouldn't let him into West Point, which is what's basically happening in the show.

00:25:36.060 We'd arrest him and put him on a flight to Japan.

00:25:38.140 And for what it's worth, the telepathic guy actually makes a great point in this scene.

00:25:41.660 You know, we're supposed to think he's obnoxious, but he's actually correct.

00:25:44.940 He points out that Starfleet's standards must be pretty low if they're letting a criminal into their highly selective academy

00:25:49.380 because a liberal white woman is attracted to him.

00:25:51.620 And in response, the white liberal captain explains that actually they didn't lower the standards at all.

00:25:57.120 Now, you see in this leftist fantasy, the multiracial criminal from a broken home has a 98th percentile test score.

00:26:03.900 That's a revealing moment in a few ways.

00:26:05.660 The writers could have said, yeah, he's bad, you know, he's got bad test scores, but he brings other skills to the table.

00:26:10.960 But they insisted on keeping the line about 98th percentile scores so they can have a girl boss gotcha moment

00:26:16.220 where she puts the racist white man, again, another nasty white guy, in his place.

00:26:21.300 And they included this line because even in their fantasies,

00:26:24.480 leftists still recognize that objective standards are important.

00:26:27.680 They just imagine that since everyone's a blank slate,

00:26:29.660 all of their preferred demographic groups are capable of meeting those standards,

00:26:32.760 even though, of course, that's not remotely true.

00:26:35.060 And every streaming service across virtually every show and virtually every genre is now full of shows like this.

00:26:41.700 To give just one more example, there's a new Agatha Christie adaptation on Netflix

00:26:45.840 where they introduce a black character who wasn't in the original novel

00:26:49.820 who lectures all the white people about how Europeans destroyed Africa.

00:26:54.640 It's a constant stream of propaganda, and all of it says the exact same thing.

00:26:59.760 And is that the extent of your connections to Germany?

00:27:05.940 No.

00:27:08.620 I fought for them in the war.

00:27:11.380 You fought for the Germans?

00:27:13.600 Yes.

00:27:14.760 I had no choice.

00:27:17.740 The whole of West Africa was engulfed in battles between Germany, France, and England.

00:27:22.520 In Cameroon, we faced troops from Nigeria, the Belgian Congo, French Equatorial Africa.

00:27:32.200 For more than two years, Africans fought other Africans on behalf of and led by white Europeans.

00:27:43.700 Well, then we are grateful for all their and your endeavors.

00:27:51.720 I lost my entire family.

00:27:55.360 I never want to see anything like that happen again.

00:27:57.540 Now, they insert dialogue like this where it obviously doesn't belong or make any sense

00:28:02.860 into modern adaptations of classic works of literature.

00:28:06.080 You're trying to watch a mystery series based on a novel from the 1920s.

00:28:09.400 Instead of getting that, you're informed that white people caused all of Africa's problems,

00:28:12.860 which isn't remotely true.

00:28:14.900 And the person telling you this is a Cameroonian scientist, not a German like the original novel,

00:28:19.760 for the simple reason that the writers felt compelled to deliver yet another lecture on colonialism.

00:28:24.600 They really thought that would be compelling to watch.

00:28:27.660 Now, they've done this to Star Trek.

00:28:28.840 They've done it to Agatha Christie.

00:28:30.240 They've done it to everything.

00:28:32.640 Streaming services are full of this garbage, most of which is based on either fabricated history,

00:28:37.720 in the case of the last thing, bad data, anti-white feminist propaganda, in the case of Star Trek.

00:28:44.700 We put a lot of effort into my show, Real History, for exactly this reason.

00:28:48.860 You can make a very strong case that if more people understood history,

00:28:52.460 then streaming services would have a lot less slop.

00:28:57.060 And that's because in all these shows, the writers see themselves as atoning for past injustices.

00:29:03.880 They believe it's their role to bring about equity because of atrocities that, in many cases, never actually happened.

00:29:11.400 And audiences, for the most part, or at least the audiences that gravitate to this kind of slop, don't know any better.

00:29:19.380 Particularly if you went to public schools, then no one ever told you the truth.

00:29:23.180 But even if you don't buy that theory, the fact remains that most new streaming shows are unwatchable.

00:29:30.340 They treat you like you have a Somali-tier IQ.

00:29:33.920 They beat you over the head with the leftist messaging.

00:29:37.860 A real history, which will continue monthly with new episodes, is my effort to combat this trend.

00:29:44.040 And ultimately, of course, the goal is to end it.

00:29:47.800 Let's hope there are many more similar efforts to come.

00:29:51.320 Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:30:43.460 Let's start with this positive headline.

00:30:48.040 Axios has this, Dems Potential 2028 Contenders Cautious on Trans Rights.

00:30:53.940 The article says, Democrats weighing bids for president are struggling for footing on transgender issues,

00:30:58.900 dodging questions on the topic.

00:31:00.600 More than a year after President Trump's Kamala is for they-them ad was widely seen as one of the most effective attacks in the 2024 campaign.

00:31:07.820 Republicans already are promising to air 2028 campaign ads blasting Democrats over the party's support for trans rights.

00:31:16.420 Last week, California Governor Gavin Newsom stumbled when conservative influencer Ben Shapiro pressed him on the topic on Newsom's podcast.

00:31:25.520 And quoting his response about whether boys could become girls, he says,

00:31:29.500 Yeah, I just, well, I think for the grace of God.

00:31:32.480 That was his answer.

00:31:34.860 Oh, thanks, Gavin.

00:31:36.120 Well, that clears it up.

00:31:36.940 Hey, can girls, can boys become girls?

00:31:39.780 Well, you know, for the grace of God.

00:31:43.180 What?

00:31:44.620 What?

00:31:48.700 The Axios quizzed nearly 20 Democrats viewed as possible 2028 contenders.

00:31:53.260 Most didn't want to talk about trans rights.

00:31:56.420 And former Vice President Harris, New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,

00:32:01.500 Governor Jamie Pritzker, Senator Cory Booker, Governor Andy Beshear, Senator Chris Murphy, Representative Roe Khanna, and Gavin Newsom were among those declining to comment or not responding.

00:32:12.620 And then even the ones who responded basically dodged the question or referred back to other times when they had answered the question, although not really answered it even then.

00:32:25.720 So my only point here, we don't need to dwell on this, because I've made this point a bunch of times, obviously, is that, and for some reason, there are some conservatives who are very resistant to me saying this, which seems odd at first.

00:32:39.860 But the fact is, we have won on this issue.

00:32:43.360 This is the most absolute victory that conservatives have achieved on any cultural or political issue in the last 30 or 40 years.

00:32:58.360 And we know that we won, not just based on the victories in court, the legislative victories, the executive orders that have come down.

00:33:11.520 So on a political level, on a practical level, on a legal level, we certainly have won.

00:33:16.160 But the real indicator, and I said this back during Kamala Harris' campaign, the real indicator is how terrified Democrats are of this issue.

00:33:28.540 They don't want to talk about it.

00:33:30.400 They certainly are not going to bring it up themselves.

00:33:34.220 And they stopped doing that probably two years ago, if not more.

00:33:38.180 They're not going to bring it up.

00:33:39.640 They're not going to run on it.

00:33:40.760 Now, it wasn't like that five years ago, six years ago.

00:33:45.440 Five or six years ago, Democrats would shoehorn, quote, trans rights into anything, anything they were talking about.

00:33:52.220 They would just throw in a line about how we support trans people.

00:33:57.280 Now it's the exact opposite situation.

00:33:59.580 They're not going to bring it up.

00:34:00.760 They don't want to talk about it.

00:34:02.020 If you ask them about it, they're going to run away from it.

00:34:06.800 Because they know they lost, and they've given up.

00:34:08.800 But this is the sign of the real victory.

00:34:11.140 They're raising the white flag.

00:34:12.480 Now, of course, they're never, because these people have no integrity, they're not going to come out and say, yeah, you know what?

00:34:16.440 We really got that wrong.

00:34:18.080 Yeah, you know what?

00:34:19.160 Wow, that's embarrassing.

00:34:21.520 Man, we were going around for years saying that women have penises, men can have babies.

00:34:28.200 We were castrating children.

00:34:29.980 Wow, that was pretty, that was some effed up stuff.

00:34:32.840 And we got that wrong.

00:34:34.080 And let's just pretend that didn't happen.

00:34:35.760 Let's move on.

00:34:36.900 They're not going to say that.

00:34:37.860 They're never going to say that, obviously.

00:34:41.660 But for them, raising the white flag is just, we are not going to talk about this anymore.

00:34:47.920 We're moving on.

00:34:50.080 And they're going to pretend it didn't happen that way by just not talking about it.

00:34:53.820 Now, does that mean that the rest of us should never talk about it again?

00:35:00.680 No, quite the opposite.

00:35:04.280 Number one, even though they've lost on a cultural and political level, and it's been one loss after another in this, you know, one battle they've lost after another on the way to losing the overall war on trans ideology.

00:35:17.200 Even so, you know, not every, there are still children who are being subjected to this, who are at risk, who are being indoctrinated, who are being mutilated.

00:35:29.000 And so while there's even one child who's still being targeted and victimized by these people, if there's still even one, then the fight continues for that reason alone.

00:35:40.460 But also, on a political level, the fact that they don't want to talk about this is all the more reason why Republicans should talk about it.

00:35:51.020 When there's an issue that your opponents are terrified of, it's the last thing in the world they want you to bring up, then yeah, bring it up.

00:36:01.580 So when you hear in the article that Republicans are already thinking about 2028, running campaign ads on this, yeah, you absolutely should.

00:36:10.260 And don't listen to any conservative who says, no, let's move on, no one cares about this anymore.

00:36:15.480 Like, what, do you not want to win?

00:36:18.240 You know that your opponents are terrified of this, they don't want to talk about it, they don't have a good answer.

00:36:22.920 Obviously, they don't have a good answer.

00:36:25.280 So yeah, of course, run the ads.

00:36:29.600 Bring it up in any debate.

00:36:31.580 Corner them on it.

00:36:32.920 Because it's humiliating to them.

00:36:34.760 They're so embarrassed, it's humiliating.

00:36:37.580 And that's all the more reason to keep talking about it.

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00:37:05.260 All right, James Tallarico is a Democrat state representative in Texas.

00:37:10.680 He's running for Senate now, and he's also supposedly a Christian.

00:37:15.820 In fact, he's a Presbyterian seminarian.

00:37:17.860 And he was interviewed by, I think this was Ezra, yeah, this is Ezra Klein, who was asking him about his alleged faith.

00:37:26.660 And his answer is basically everything wrong with liberal Christianity, distilled down to, you know, one minute.

00:37:33.760 And everything wrong with liberal Christianity, as we'll see, is that it is not Christianity at all.

00:37:39.760 Watch.

00:37:41.560 How do you think about the competing claims of different religions?

00:37:44.860 Do you believe Christianity to be more true than other religions?

00:37:48.000 Do you believe there to be exclusivity in these beliefs, that they're incompatible with each other?

00:37:52.580 I believe Christianity points to the truth.

00:37:55.060 I also think other religions of love point to the same truth.

00:37:58.060 I think of different religious traditions as different languages.

00:38:01.300 So you and I could sit here and debate what to call this cup, and you could call it a cup in English.

00:38:05.900 You'd call it something else in Spanish and French.

00:38:08.960 But we are all talking about the same reality.

00:38:11.160 I believe Jesus Christ reveals that reality to us.

00:38:14.000 But I also think that other traditions reveal that reality in their own ways, with their own symbol structures.

00:38:19.560 And I've learned more about my tradition by learning more about Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam and Judaism.

00:38:25.740 And so I see these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos.

00:38:32.180 And that truth is inherently a mystery.

00:38:37.200 Well, that's total nonsense.

00:38:38.820 And of course, Ezra Klein is listening attentively.

00:38:41.680 He looks very interested, enthralled.

00:38:45.380 Now, this conversation goes on for five minutes.

00:38:47.220 There are no interesting follow-ups at all.

00:38:48.900 This Ezra Klein listening to the dumbest bullshit anyone's ever said.

00:38:55.140 Like, wow.

00:38:56.040 Hmm.

00:38:56.740 Yeah.

00:38:57.720 Okay.

00:38:59.360 This is classic left-wing faux-Christian nonsense.

00:39:03.940 And it's what they always say.

00:39:05.720 Any liberal Christian, which is a contradiction in terms, will say this.

00:39:11.640 All religions are valid.

00:39:13.160 They all point to the same truth.

00:39:17.140 This is the, you know, this is the kind of universalist heresy.

00:39:21.020 Actually, I guess it's technically omnism.

00:39:25.700 He's an omnist, which is the belief that all religions are valid.

00:39:29.640 That they all point to the same truth, like he said.

00:39:31.860 And now he can say that.

00:39:35.100 The obvious follow-up, which we never get, is, well, really, James?

00:39:40.600 What truth is that?

00:39:42.600 What truth do all religions point to?

00:39:46.280 Because the truth that Christianity points to, the truth of Christianity, is that Jesus Christ is Lord.

00:39:55.340 He's the way, the truth, and the life.

00:40:00.360 That's the truth of Christianity.

00:40:01.860 Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life.

00:40:06.800 The central truth claim of the Christian faith is that.

00:40:13.080 And it is very specifically not a claim made by any other religion on the planet.

00:40:20.280 If any other religion made that claim, they wouldn't be another religion.

00:40:25.200 They would be Christianity.

00:40:26.100 Christianity.

00:40:27.840 So, when it comes to that central claim, it's either true or it isn't.

00:40:35.780 It can't be true and not true.

00:40:38.100 It's either true or it isn't.

00:40:39.720 If it isn't true, then if Jesus Christ was just a guy, if he didn't exist, whatever, then in that case, Christianity is false.

00:40:53.760 And not only false, but it would be worthless.

00:40:58.980 If the central truth claim of Christianity is false, then the entire religion is worthless.

00:41:04.220 Worse than worthless.

00:41:05.340 I mean, anything that's not, if you are dedicating your life to a thing that is not true, that's not just wasting your time.

00:41:15.360 That is a, by any measure, objectively, a negative thing.

00:41:20.180 On the other hand, if it is true, which it is true, then Christianity is, in that case, the only valid religion on the planet.

00:41:34.300 Which is the case.

00:41:39.260 Christianity is the only true and valid religion on the planet.

00:41:45.100 And if you are a Christian, that must be what you believe.

00:41:49.080 And there should be no embarrassment in saying it.

00:41:52.520 I'm a Christian, and so I believe that Christianity is not only true, but it is the truth, and it is the only true religion on the planet.

00:42:01.920 Every other religion is false.

00:42:04.300 If you can't say that as a Christian, then you're not a Christian.

00:42:11.040 If you can't say that, then you're clearly not a Christian.

00:42:18.600 Now, if you believe that, but you won't say it for some reason, then you're a coward.

00:42:23.060 Then you're a ridiculous coward.

00:42:26.620 But if you can't say it because you don't believe it, then you're not a Christian.

00:42:32.160 And this isn't even a matter just of theology, it's also a matter of basic logic.

00:42:38.500 A thing cannot be true, and also not true, at the same time.

00:42:44.540 Two religions that point to completely different and competing truths cannot both be right.

00:42:49.780 One of those truths is not a truth.

00:42:54.040 It's like one of those games at the fair where there's a jar with a bunch of gumballs, and then you have to guess how many gumballs are in it.

00:43:03.660 Well, if I say that there are 64 gumballs in the jar and you say there are 72, we both can't be right.

00:43:09.400 Now, we could both be wrong.

00:43:12.480 That's a logically possible scenario, is that you could say 72, I say 64, and it turns out that it's 53 or something.

00:43:20.120 We both can't be right, though.

00:43:21.780 The one thing that can't be is that we're both right.

00:43:25.840 There cannot be 64 gumballs and also 72 at the same time.

00:43:28.920 Not possible.

00:43:30.980 And one of us is right, or none of us is right.

00:43:34.760 Those are the only options.

00:43:35.800 And we're not both pointing to the same truth, either.

00:43:42.620 What does that mean?

00:43:44.700 Now, we both, in this scenario of the gumballs, might be trying to ascertain the same truth.

00:43:51.100 We're both making a claim about the contents of the jar, but one of us is right, or none of us are right.

00:44:01.080 The only thing we can't be, we can't both be, is right.

00:44:05.800 So, the only similarity, the only thing that really ties all the religions of the world together is that they're all making a claim about the contents of the jar.

00:44:22.360 In this case, the jar is the universe.

00:44:25.620 Every religion is making a claim about the nature of the universe, what exists, and why it exists.

00:44:33.160 That's what every religion is doing.

00:44:35.920 Every religion is trying to explain what exists and why those things exist.

00:44:44.580 But they're making very different, they are coming to very different conclusions on both of those points.

00:44:52.080 It's especially funny to claim that you learn more about your own religion by studying other religions.

00:44:56.640 I mean, what exactly do you learn about Christianity by studying Hinduism?

00:45:01.640 I would love to follow up on that.

00:45:03.500 That would be an interesting thing to follow up on.

00:45:05.740 I learned a lot about Christianity from studying Hinduism.

00:45:08.420 Oh, really? Like what?

00:45:10.600 That's not even a gotcha.

00:45:12.700 I want to hear it.

00:45:13.700 What did you learn?

00:45:14.780 What did you learn about the Christian faith from studying Hinduism?

00:45:18.900 Hinduism developed in a different part of the world, completely divorced from the Christian tradition.

00:45:27.680 If, you know, if Hinduism had never existed, Christianity would be the same.

00:45:34.840 It's hard to conceive of two religions that have less in common than those two.

00:45:41.560 Hinduism is polytheistic.

00:45:43.040 Or if, you know, I think some would say it's more, I mean, I'm no scholar of Hinduism.

00:45:48.960 Maybe some would say it's more pluralistic because, you know, you got the infinite creator God, a Brahmin, and then the manifestations, you know, the minor deities are manifestations of the kind of prime deity.

00:46:04.620 Again, I'm no expert in Hinduism.

00:46:05.900 But, you know, I've read a little bit about it.

00:46:10.200 Like, it is interesting to read about other religions, not to learn about Christianity, not to discover the theological validity of all the world's religions, but from an anthropological perspective.

00:46:22.720 If you're interested in anthropology, if you're interested in history, then religion is part of that.

00:46:29.740 And learning about the mythologies of other cultures and other places of the world, it's interesting.

00:46:35.120 Like, academically, it's interesting.

00:46:36.780 Sure.

00:46:36.980 But if you do even a little bit of that, if you study other faiths even a little bit, the first thing you notice is basically the opposite of what James here is saying.

00:46:53.320 What you'll notice is, wow, these other religions are really different.

00:47:00.820 I mean, if you actually study other religions, the first thing you notice is, wow, Christianity is unlike any of this stuff.

00:47:06.980 But Christianity is very distinct.

00:47:13.780 It's like Christianity came from another world.

00:47:18.400 You know, all these other religions feel like kind of outgrowths of these various different cultures around the planet.

00:47:29.980 Christianity feels like Christianity feels like it came from another world because it did.

00:47:33.100 And that's what you notice if you actually study it.

00:47:39.900 Which James has not.

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00:48:53.940 I'll mention this briefly.

00:48:56.320 Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker signed the Clean Slate Law into act on Friday, creating an automatic process to seal the eligible criminal records for individuals convicted of certain nonviolent offenses, including theft and drug possession.

00:49:13.880 The Clean Slate Act passed with bipartisan support.

00:49:16.680 My signature will offer the opportunity for Illinois to create an automatic process to seal the criminal records of those convicted of nonviolent crimes.

00:49:25.160 There's no reasonable public safety justification for making it hard for returning citizens to get a job or housing or an education.

00:49:31.960 It's a policy guided by punishment rather than rehabilitation.

00:49:35.580 Law applies to more than 1.7 million adults in Illinois.

00:49:40.300 Requires law enforcement agencies and circuit clerks to seal eligible criminal records without individuals having to file petitions.

00:49:45.660 So I'm not a big fan of this, shockingly.

00:49:49.100 A soft on crime policy passed by J.B. Pritzker in Illinois.

00:49:53.360 I know you were pretty surprised that I'm not a fan.

00:49:55.740 I know you heard that and you thought, that sounds like something to Matt Walsh.

00:49:58.320 It's got Matt Walsh written all over it.

00:50:00.360 But no, I'm actually not a fan.

00:50:01.780 And I'm not going to waste time going into detail here.

00:50:05.760 You already know my take.

00:50:07.000 To begin with, I object to the premise that so-called nonviolent crimes are not serious.

00:50:14.040 Not to mention, as we've seen, violent crimes are very often categorized as nonviolent.

00:50:18.900 So, in fact, this law will apply to violent crimes.

00:50:22.180 Anytime there's a law passed anywhere in the country where it's making the punishment more lenient for nonviolent crimes,

00:50:31.320 you should know in every case that this is being done with the intention.

00:50:38.620 It's not even like this is an accidental result.

00:50:42.140 With the intention of also applying these lenient sentences to violent crimes.

00:50:47.740 All you have to do, it's not very hard.

00:50:50.380 All you have to do is just one more step.

00:50:52.100 It just adds a step.

00:50:53.760 First, you have to recategorize the violent crime as nonviolent.

00:50:57.660 And then what do you know?

00:50:59.020 Just like magic, it gets the lenient sentence as well.

00:51:03.580 But I mainly want to focus on this part where he says,

00:51:06.280 there's no reasonable public safety justification for making it hard for returning citizens to get a job

00:51:10.180 or housing or education.

00:51:11.720 It's a policy guided by punishment rather than rehabilitation.

00:51:20.020 Now, and the governor, this is obviously not true because there is a public safety justification.

00:51:32.040 There are many jobs, for example, where a person's history committing, say, theft would be very relevant,

00:51:39.800 would be a matter of public safety.

00:51:41.720 But put that aside for a second.

00:51:46.180 He says that it's a policy guided by punishment rather than by rehabilitation.

00:51:53.020 Okay, so?

00:51:54.360 I mean, the implicit assumption here, which is implicit in all of our conversations about criminal justice,

00:51:59.280 is that rehabilitation ought to be the primary goal.

00:52:02.560 And so you always hear this argument from people when they're trying to explain why they oppose this or that kind of punishment or anything.

00:52:11.920 They always say, well, that's not how you rehabilitate.

00:52:15.120 That doesn't help with rehabilitation.

00:52:18.780 Well, who says that rehabilitation is the goal anyway?

00:52:21.160 Or at least the primary goal.

00:52:27.080 Why is that the primary goal?

00:52:30.120 No, the primary goal is punishment.

00:52:34.320 Punishment should be the primary objective.

00:52:36.600 Like, if you commit a crime and we've got to punish you, if you're going to be reintroduced to society at some point,

00:52:44.900 and a lot of these people just never should be, but if you are going to be,

00:52:48.140 then obviously for the sake of society, it's better if there's some kind of rehabilitation.

00:52:52.140 But whether you're going to be rehabilitated or not, you've still got to be punished.

00:52:56.820 That's the most important thing.

00:52:59.680 And at any rate, more importantly, this is a false distinction.

00:53:05.300 There is no rehabilitation without punishment.

00:53:08.960 So saying rehabilitation without punishment, it's like saying you want to build muscle without exercising.

00:53:16.880 These two things cannot be separated.

00:53:18.560 One is the method by which the other is achieved.

00:53:24.500 You can't separate building muscle and exercise because exercise is the method by which building muscle is achieved.

00:53:35.900 And whether you're talking about building muscle or rehabilitating criminals,

00:53:40.080 then that method must involve suffering.

00:53:44.960 You cannot get around it.

00:53:46.560 And punishment is, by definition, intentional suffering inflicted on people who've done a bad thing.

00:53:56.060 You're making them suffer intentionally.

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00:55:26.000 All right, finally, I thought this was cool.

00:55:28.320 This is from Lex Friedman's show, and I like his show.

00:55:33.200 I think it's interesting.

00:55:34.340 I like that he talks to different sorts of people, scientists, archaeologists, people with strange theories and ideas about the world.

00:55:40.820 I don't listen to very many podcasts, but if I ever am going to listen to one, it will be about a subject that has nothing to do with politics.

00:55:49.880 And I can't stand the, especially the long-form interview podcasts that are just rambling 19-hour conversations about nothing with someone who is not remotely interesting.

00:56:02.040 The podcast where it's like, hey, we're sitting down with this person, we're going to talk for seven hours.

00:56:07.080 Who cares what that person has?

00:56:08.400 They have nothing interesting to say whatsoever.

00:56:11.820 The only person, literally the only person who knows how to do the long kind of unfocused conversational style of interview and can do it with basically anybody and make it interesting is Joe Rogan.

00:56:25.400 He's the master of the art form.

00:56:27.620 Everybody else sucks at it.

00:56:29.560 Everyone else sucks at it.

00:56:30.880 So if you're thinking, well, what about this person?

00:56:33.200 Yeah, that person too.

00:56:34.740 Everyone else who tries to do the long conversational kind of long-form podcast interview stuff, like everyone else is bad at it.

00:56:48.100 He's the only one who knows how to do it.

00:56:50.040 Actually, I just listened to Joe's whole interview with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck.

00:56:54.760 And they basically talk about movies for like two and a half hours.

00:56:57.700 And I thought it was great.

00:56:59.080 It was very interesting.

00:57:00.920 And most long-form podcasts are terrible.

00:57:04.720 But this is one that I think has some interesting stuff.

00:57:11.860 And in this case, he was interviewing again Paul Rosalie, who's a conservationist and is an expert on the Amazon jungle.

00:57:20.220 I think he lives in the Amazon jungle or spends a lot of time there if he doesn't live there.

00:57:24.420 And in this latest conversation, Paul Rosalie brought to Lex's show some footage that he, Paul, captured of an uncontacted tribe in the Amazon, which is just really fascinating.

00:57:39.420 I mean, objectively, this is the most fascinating thing that has happened on anybody's podcast, including mine, in a long time.

00:57:46.660 It's like, it's hard to beat something like this.

00:57:49.660 Let's watch it.

00:57:51.480 See, as they come closer, they start laying down there.

00:57:54.700 See, he's laying down his bow and arrow.

00:57:56.640 And now they're all standing in a relaxed...

00:57:59.240 Yeah.

00:57:59.660 And they're smiling.

00:58:01.560 Are they smiling?

00:58:02.080 Smiles come at some point.

00:58:04.280 I would say that one of these guys seemed like in a leadership position.

00:58:10.140 He did most of the talking.

00:58:11.500 Did you have a sense of hierarchy at all?

00:58:13.220 Like the boss?

00:58:14.140 Again, there was just these two dominant guys.

00:58:16.260 And like this guy and one other guy who looked almost like him, like his brother.

00:58:19.360 I'm gesturing.

00:58:25.840 Wow.

00:58:27.700 But see, even that, as he's pointing, what are you pointing at?

00:58:31.200 You guys are nuts.

00:58:49.100 You guys are nuts.

00:58:51.740 You see as they're rushing in.

00:58:53.680 There's this desperation.

00:58:54.680 They're hungry.

00:58:55.280 We had a great moment where we'd given them the plantains.

00:59:00.240 We'd given them the bananas.

00:59:01.820 And he'd said, look, that's it.

00:59:03.680 He said, we've given you what you asked for.

00:59:06.480 You asked for bananas.

00:59:08.220 We don't cut the trees here.

00:59:09.980 All of us here are not tree cutters.

00:59:11.880 We're indigenous people.

00:59:13.600 And he couldn't explain who the hell we were.

00:59:15.980 But they were like, we don't cut the trees.

00:59:17.560 We're not the loggers.

00:59:18.460 But then they don't have boats.

00:59:19.800 They don't have stone tools.

00:59:21.200 They don't.

00:59:22.260 Imagine if you showed them ice.

00:59:24.560 You know, they wouldn't.

00:59:26.780 This is historic.

00:59:30.820 I mean, it's the.

00:59:31.960 I mean, you hear Percy Fawcett encountering the tribes.

00:59:35.700 We've heard of anecdotal accounts of the tribes.

00:59:37.980 This is the first time that the tribes have been filmed.

00:59:41.480 We can hear their voices, that there's a documented interaction happening.

00:59:45.940 I mean, this now, look how comfortable he's getting.

00:59:47.680 He's so close.

00:59:48.700 They asked him for his shirt.

00:59:50.640 He gave his shirt.

00:59:52.240 They asked him for his pants.

00:59:53.500 He gave his pants.

00:59:54.240 He was in his underwear.

00:59:56.820 You see the shirt that's over his shoulder?

01:00:01.220 Ignacio took off his jungle keeper's shirt and threw it to the anthropologist.

01:00:05.420 And then the anthropologist walked it off and threw it to them.

01:00:07.420 So, over the shoulder of that uncontacted naked warrior is a jungle keeper shirt with the logo showing.

01:00:15.840 So, I mean, it's genuinely historic.

01:00:18.340 We've never seen footage this clear and up close of uncontacted tribes.

01:00:26.000 Usually the footage is like Bigfoot, grainy, off in the distance and that sort of thing.

01:00:30.600 But this is very vivid.

01:00:31.760 Obviously, if you're watching the video podcast, you saw very vivid, very clear.

01:00:35.460 And it's fascinating.

01:00:38.940 He said these people don't have boats or stone tools.

01:00:42.700 That means these are literally prehistoric people, like pre-Stone Age.

01:00:52.040 The ancient Egyptians are futuristic compared to these people.

01:00:57.020 If these people stumbled upon technology from 4,000 years ago, they would be flummoxed.

01:01:02.280 They don't have boats.

01:01:05.180 I mean, human beings first started using boats like 10,000 years ago.

01:01:10.760 And they don't even have that.

01:01:12.840 A boat is 10,000-year-old technology.

01:01:17.060 And it's far more advanced than what these people have.

01:01:20.920 So, that's fascinating, again, on an anthropological level.

01:01:25.340 And it also raises all kinds of questions, which are forbidden.

01:01:32.760 Like, if Europeans had never come to the New World, would the, which we're told by the left, that's what they should have happened.

01:01:42.560 Never should have come here.

01:01:44.240 We stole this land.

01:01:46.300 We're intruders.

01:01:46.820 Well, if Europeans had never come, would the entire hemisphere still be stuck in this state, naked, carrying spears, perpetually living in a sort of prehistoric condition?

01:02:00.240 Now, granted, some of the tribes in the Americas were more advanced than this.

01:02:04.300 Certainly, the Mesoamerican tribes, many of the North American tribes were more advanced than this.

01:02:09.720 But all of them, all of them were thousands of years behind the Europeans of the 16th century.

01:02:15.900 And would they still be there if that contact had never been made?

01:02:21.200 And I think the answer is obviously yes.

01:02:25.520 Because this is what happened when you have these native tribes and you really don't make any contact.

01:02:30.160 You go out of your way to not contact them.

01:02:32.720 What happens is that they just don't advance at all.

01:02:35.940 And that raises the next question.

01:02:41.580 Would that have been better?

01:02:44.000 Would it have been better if all the tribes of the New World had been left in the year 5000 BC, give or take?

01:02:51.100 I think definitely no.

01:02:53.880 I mean, would anybody want to live like that?

01:02:56.380 We know about the noble savage myth, you know, this idea that the native people lived in a state of blissful harmony with nature.

01:03:04.880 But the truth, and this is one of the reasons why I find the uncontacted tribes to be so interesting, is that it's like you can look in a time machine.

01:03:15.200 I mean, it's like looking in a time machine.

01:03:17.680 It's like someone coming from the past and showing you a magic, giving you a magic crystal or something from a movie where you can see what's happening in the past.

01:03:25.860 And so you could do that.

01:03:30.480 We have that right now.

01:03:31.200 You look into the past.

01:03:33.680 And what you find is that people in the far distant past or people today who are living as though they're in the far distant past, they live brutal lives.

01:03:44.860 Brutal and very short lives, where rather than being in a state of harmony, they were constantly afraid of everyone and everything around them.

01:03:59.520 And for good reason.

01:04:00.700 And they suffered in some of the worst ways imaginable and died very young, often of causes that these days are extremely preventable.

01:04:14.100 You know, things like your teeth rotting out of your skull and you get infections in your mouth that kill you.

01:04:20.380 I mean, this is the kind of thing that doesn't happen in the modern world, but very common.

01:04:24.520 And not only do they not have the technological advances that we have today or any of the comforts that we have, they also didn't have much in the way of art or music or they may have a very primitive form of both of those things, but nothing like the richness of, you know, music as we know it today.

01:04:48.660 Well, not, I wouldn't say that modern pop music is very rich, but you know, the music, the music, uh, certainly they didn't have a written language.

01:04:59.220 They didn't have books or anything like that.

01:05:01.880 And so not a single person who's honest would look at the uncontacted tribe frozen in time and think, man, I'd love to live how they live.

01:05:12.880 Hey, it's too bad.

01:05:13.860 I'm not living like that.

01:05:16.660 No one thinks that.

01:05:17.520 I mean, I've visited a primitive tribe, not uncontacted.

01:05:20.860 This was the Maasai tribe in Kenya, but they have a lot of contact with the outside world, but they do live in mud huts and, you know, they live again, it's a primitive kind of way.

01:05:30.820 Their way of living hasn't changed in 4,000 years.

01:05:35.060 Everything in the village smells like sewage, both human and cow in origin.

01:05:38.900 There are flies everywhere.

01:05:40.300 There's like things you don't even think about, especially if you have this kind of Disney version of the past in your head where like everything smells, everything is dirty.

01:05:50.860 Everything is dirty and gross and everything smells.

01:05:53.840 Flies everywhere, crawling on everything and everyone all the time.

01:05:57.640 And it's just not a life that anyone who's lived a better life would want to experience for any extended period of time.

01:06:03.640 When we think about, so when, when we fantasize about living an old fashioned life, you know, going off the grid, something I do fantasize about where, you know, that kind of thing we're thinking about, well, wouldn't it be great to live in a nice cabin in the woods with a fireplace, comfortable bed, lots of books, running water.

01:06:25.220 Certainly at least a stove, you know, a stove, you know, a stove, you know, a wood burning stove.

01:06:30.420 And so when you, when you think about that, you're, you're fantasizing about living maybe 120 years in the past.

01:06:36.260 And even that in reality would be much, much harder than your fantasies account for.

01:06:41.380 Uh, you kind of romanticize view, like in real life, that'd be, it's a very hard life, but this isn't 120 years.

01:06:47.760 This is like going back 12,000 years.

01:06:49.760 And, uh, you know, you might think, Hey, I'd love to go back 50 years, a hundred years.

01:06:57.220 You don't want to go back 12,000 years.

01:07:00.340 Nobody wants that.

01:07:02.060 That is not a life anybody wants to live.

01:07:05.360 And that leads us to two conclusions.

01:07:07.240 And one is that colonialism was a great good.

01:07:12.460 Um, not perfectly, not all the time.

01:07:19.940 These are not perfect people, but by a large, a great good.

01:07:24.640 And then the second is, which I'm, which I'm a little bit, I'm certain of that first conclusion.

01:07:30.200 The second conclusion, I'm a little, I can, you know, I could see the argument, but.

01:07:34.500 I think the second conclusion is that we should make contact with all of these people and introduce

01:07:42.060 them to the modern world, which isn't to say that we should put them on a plane and fly

01:07:46.480 them here to be, uh, immigrants, um, before Democrats get any, get any bright ideas.

01:07:52.180 I mean, they look at that video and they think, you know what, you know where those people

01:07:55.220 should live?

01:07:56.460 Minneapolis.

01:07:57.860 All right.

01:07:58.260 We need those people living in Minneapolis.

01:08:00.180 Yep.

01:08:00.640 Get those people to Minneapolis immediately.

01:08:02.660 Get them registered to vote.

01:08:05.440 Let's go.

01:08:06.400 I'm not saying that what I'm, what I'm saying is, I mean, they could continue to live where

01:08:10.100 they live, but, um, I think introducing them in some way to the modern world is probably

01:08:16.740 the right thing to do.

01:08:18.300 And, you know, as fascinating as this kind of footage is, and as sad as it would be in

01:08:23.720 some ways to see these tribes basically disappear, that's kind of a selfish thing.

01:08:28.640 I think when Westerners look at that and say, oh, that'd be so sad.

01:08:31.720 And, you know, if you, you modernize and these tribes disappear, it's a sad thing.

01:08:36.280 Well, that's a selfish perspective that we have because we just think it's interesting

01:08:43.360 that people live this way.

01:08:44.820 And so for us, it's a, it's a, it's a novelty.

01:08:47.900 It's an interesting thing.

01:08:49.220 It's an interesting video to watch, but in reality, their lives are quite terrible in many

01:08:55.740 ways and they're suffering and dying young needlessly all the time for reasons.

01:09:02.140 Like you've got a bunch of problems.

01:09:05.120 We can solve a lot of them easily.

01:09:08.220 It's all, all the ways to solve it.

01:09:10.360 It's all out here.

01:09:11.000 And, um, I don't know.

01:09:15.480 Think about how you would feel if I was living in some tribe somewhere and the whole rest of

01:09:24.120 the world is 10,000 years in the future.

01:09:29.820 And they never told me, I, you know, if I ever found out about that, I think I'd be a

01:09:34.460 little bit upset.

01:09:35.000 I think I would look at that and say, you got, why, why do you guys tell us you never

01:09:39.780 told me this you guys have toothpaste and air conditioning.

01:09:46.740 Um, I don't know, of course, introducing or making contact, there's diseases that are

01:09:51.920 spread.

01:09:52.380 There's all kinds of things.

01:09:53.300 So, and, um, and, and making contact, the tribes themselves are quite, can be quite violent.

01:10:00.340 And so doing that as a dangerous proposition, but you know, overall, I think that's a

01:10:04.980 that's probably the direction that this should head.

01:10:08.840 And all of that is the lesson, once again, that, uh, colonialism is a wonderful thing.

01:10:13.960 Never let anyone tell you otherwise.

01:10:16.540 And I think we will, uh, leave it there.

01:10:18.900 That'll do it for today.

01:10:19.720 Thanks for watching.

01:10:20.240 Thanks for listening.

01:10:20.900 Talk to you tomorrow.

01:10:21.960 Have a great day.

01:10:22.720 Godspeed.

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01:10:32.360 I'm building my colony right here.

01:10:34.360 I'm colonizing this whole board.

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01:10:39.340 My God!

01:10:40.980 Tell me more about your identity.

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