The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1721 - Democrats Are Doubling Down On Their Anti-White Agenda. Here's The Proof.

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the Democrat Party is doubling down on its anti-white agenda.

00:00:03.860 If you look at the new Democrat administrations in New York City and Virginia, that is very clear.

00:00:08.660 Also, Hollywood actress claims that she personally witnessed lynchings when she was growing up.

00:00:12.840 That would make sense, maybe, if she was, say, 120 years old or so, which she isn't.

00:00:18.260 And is AI about to completely take over the film industry?

00:00:20.960 Ben Affleck weighs in on that question on Joe Rogan.

00:00:23.460 We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.

00:00:30.000 We'll be right back.

00:01:00.000 It's a state now led by a CIA officer and sociopath named Abigail Spanberger.

00:01:06.300 Since taking complete control of the state, Democrats have raced to eliminate penalties for a series of crimes from illegal migration to robbery to DUI for the benefit of the non-white population that commits most of those crimes.

00:01:19.140 In fact, DUIs will no longer carry mandatory prison time in the state.

00:01:23.760 And Spanberger has issued an executive order ending police cooperation with ICE.

00:01:27.740 So it's a real win-win for Virginia's illegal alien community, who, as we know, are big fans of drinking, driving under the influence.

00:01:38.140 Democrats have also moved to formalize anti-white discrimination in government contracting.

00:01:42.800 They're planning to raise taxes on basically everything, including sports facilities, dry cleaning, landscaping, home repairs, digital services.

00:01:50.760 They're adding a new 20-cent tax to every single Amazon delivery and installing surveillance cameras across the state to generate more revenue by fining motorists.

00:01:59.740 They're also dramatically raising income taxes on wealthy individuals who are mostly white in order to fund free education for illegal aliens.

00:02:07.160 They've commenced a new home-based child care provider startup grant program so that more taxpayer money can be funneled to their own, you know, Somali leering centers.

00:02:17.940 They took one look at Minneapolis and decided, hey, we want that in our state.

00:02:23.840 Basically, to sum it up, that's what they're doing.

00:02:26.640 Here's a quote from just one of the bills that Virginia Democrats have introduced to give you an idea.

00:02:32.080 The small SWAM business procurement enhancement program is hereby established to facilitate the participation of small SWAM businesses in state procurement.

00:02:45.260 The goal of the program shall be the achievement of a 42% small SWAM business utilization rate.

00:02:51.920 And the bill continues, quote, the program shall include a small SWAM business set aside for the purchase of good services and construction by executive branch agencies and covered institutions.

00:03:02.160 Purchases up to $100,000 shall be set aside for award to small SWAM businesses.

00:03:09.160 Now, you might be wondering, what is a SWAM, S-W-A-N, and what's a small SWAM?

00:03:17.480 Well, if you go back and look at the definitions, here's what the bill will tell you.

00:03:22.360 Quote, small SWAM business means a small business certified by the department as being small, any subcategory of small, small women-owned, small minority-owned, or small service-disabled veteran-owned.

00:03:36.040 Meanwhile, quote, SWAM means a small women-owned or minority-owned or related to a small women-owned or minority-owned business.

00:03:44.480 So this is one of those cases where they've clearly messed up the acronym.

00:03:48.520 They're talking about small SWAM businesses.

00:03:53.400 They're saying small, small minority-owned businesses.

00:03:56.980 That's what a small SWAM is, a small, small minority-owned business.

00:04:01.300 Not merely small minority-owned business.

00:04:04.240 It's a small, small business that is owned by minorities, whatever all that means.

00:04:10.300 No one ever accused Marxists of being intelligent.

00:04:12.440 But the intent of the bill is clear.

00:04:14.320 The state of Virginia wants more taxpayer money that will flow to minorities.

00:04:18.640 And not because those minorities are the best candidates, but simply because they are not white.

00:04:24.640 If you're a white guy who runs a large business, then you're going to be shut out of contracts under $100,000.

00:04:30.540 A minority-owned business will take that contract from you, unless, of course, you want to hire them as a subcontractor.

00:04:35.940 So if you pay the racial equity fee, then you can get the job.

00:04:40.540 These are policies that, as contractors already know, are the norm in many cases.

00:04:44.620 It's already standard in federal contracting, thanks to the civil rights era.

00:04:48.580 And now Virginia wants to drastically expand this kind of discrimination.

00:04:53.020 Now, it's obviously bad policy that's eventually going to lead to some very obvious, potentially catastrophic outcomes, and already has across the country.

00:04:59.940 And therefore, just to make sure that they never lose power again, Virginia Democrats have also introduced legislation that would make it illegal to count machine-readable ballots by hand,

00:05:10.880 as well as legislation that makes it much easier to obtain and submit absentee ballots without identifying yourself,

00:05:16.760 along with legislation that allows people who are incapacitated to the point that they need a conservatorship to cast ballots.

00:05:24.900 In other words, they're enabling voter fraud on a massive scale.

00:05:28.600 And there are dozens more bills like this.

00:05:32.240 The account Nova Campaigns has cataloged many of them.

00:05:35.760 Now, if you live in Virginia, or if you did live in Virginia as recently as 2018 or so,

00:05:40.820 all of this way back then would have seemed hard to imagine.

00:05:46.200 Democrats in the state were considered to be relatively moderate, all things considered.

00:05:51.980 They certainly weren't anywhere near as far left as, say, California.

00:05:55.040 But that changed when every moderate in the Virginia State House was primaried in 2019 and in the state Senate a few years later.

00:06:03.760 The party is now under the complete control of California Marxists.

00:06:08.360 And now that they've assumed power, they're not wasting any time transforming the entire state to fit their deranged vision.

00:06:17.760 Now, the other day we spent most of the show discussing how leftists continue to destroy the American entertainment industry

00:06:23.700 with terrible writing and communist messaging, pushing DEI and all that.

00:06:29.800 But at the same time, you know, no one takes those shows seriously anymore.

00:06:33.520 They become parodies of themselves.

00:06:35.720 Look all over the internet.

00:06:36.540 You're not going to find, or it will be a challenge to find, a single serious video or post praising the new Star Trek show that we talked about, for example.

00:06:47.640 All the comments on the show's YouTube premiere are negative, and very few people watched it.

00:06:55.340 Although they did premiere it on YouTube and leave the comments on, which is a bold move.

00:06:59.560 And that's just one of many, many indicators that wokeness, to a large degree, has peaked.

00:07:05.580 Axios just asked two dozen prominent Democrats whether men can become women.

00:07:10.720 And like we talked about, virtually all of them ducked the question.

00:07:14.320 The party is trying to move away from some of the fringe, deranged messaging that cost them the last election.

00:07:22.520 But in turn, they're replacing that kind of wokeness with something much more deeply rooted.

00:07:29.560 And more insidious, and potentially much more harmful.

00:07:33.180 And the state of Virginia is exhibit A for what they're planning.

00:07:36.560 Because Democrats have decided to go all in on anti-white hatred.

00:07:42.020 Which every institution in this country has deliberately fostered for at least 60 years now.

00:07:47.560 So it's not going away anytime soon.

00:07:50.520 As the left kind of tries to awkwardly move away from transgenderism, some of the other excesses of the LGBT movement.

00:07:59.560 They are doubling and tripling down on the racial narrative.

00:08:04.180 And we're seeing that in the streets of Minneapolis right now.

00:08:06.780 As they're harassing random white people who just commit the crime of walking down the street or driving.

00:08:14.440 And that racial narrative has proven far more enduring and far more effective.

00:08:19.900 And we know this is a much broader party-wide strategy based on how top Democrats are talking right now.

00:08:27.280 Michelle Obama, for instance, just stated that buying clothes from white designers and white-owned companies is wrong.

00:08:35.180 You need to start practicing wardrobe equity when you're buying your clothing.

00:08:40.480 And this is a clip.

00:08:42.500 This is not a clip from 2020.

00:08:44.040 This is not from the summer of Floyd.

00:08:45.760 This is just this week.

00:08:48.280 Watch.

00:08:50.300 If I hear of someone whose fashion that I like and I know that they're a person of color, I try to make it a point.

00:08:57.780 But the clothes have to be available.

00:09:00.940 You know, I think we can all do some work to think about that balance in our wardrobes.

00:09:06.380 You know, what does our closet look like and who's in it?

00:09:10.740 Who are we supporting in it?

00:09:13.280 Right.

00:09:13.540 You know, and I think if you have the money to buy Chanel, then you have the money to buy everybody.

00:09:19.620 Right.

00:09:20.460 And so let us be mindful, I think, would be my advice.

00:09:25.340 Yeah.

00:09:28.040 So the women all nod as if it's a completely normal thing to say, which for these people it is.

00:09:33.160 You're not allowed to avoid black owned businesses.

00:09:36.960 If you're an Uber driver and you try to avoid high crime areas because you don't want to get carjacked and shot.

00:09:43.120 Your account will be suspended for racism.

00:09:46.200 But if any other race wants to openly discriminate against whites, the Democrat Party will support them wholeheartedly.

00:09:51.780 So before you convince yourself that wokeness has gone away, well, consider the fact that, you know, it's still perfectly acceptable and encouraged to talk about how you want to prioritize patronizing black owned businesses.

00:10:08.720 And yet, even in our age, which is supposedly post woke or whatever, if somebody gets up and says, you know what, I really want to support white owned businesses.

00:10:20.740 That's really important to me because I'm white.

00:10:22.600 I want to support my people.

00:10:23.960 Nothing against anybody else.

00:10:26.200 But, you know, before I buy clothing or go to a restaurant, I just want to make sure that it's owned by a white person.

00:10:31.460 Now, we all know the reaction to that kind of comment.

00:10:37.600 We know how that will go.

00:10:40.120 And it's true, of course, that Democrats have been talking like this for a very long time.

00:10:43.300 But unlike traditional wokeness, they're doubling down on this kind of rhetoric.

00:10:47.180 Everywhere they seize power, they're implementing an anti-white platform.

00:10:51.860 That's why Zoran Mamdani just appointed Afua Atta Mensah to be the chief equity officer of New York.

00:10:59.300 Just a nice, nice traditional American name there.

00:11:03.180 Afua Atta Mensah.

00:11:06.460 Bet you there are a bunch of those fighting in the Revolutionary War.

00:11:09.640 The New York Young Republicans Club has found several posts in which this woman openly attacks white people,

00:11:15.480 which, of course, is the entire reason that Mamdani hired her.

00:11:19.700 In this post, for example, somebody posted his thoughts on the television show Succession.

00:11:24.880 And Mamdani's new equity director responded by saying, quote,

00:11:27.800 quote, tax them to the white meat.

00:11:31.540 Yes, tax them to the white meat.

00:11:35.480 This woman also frequently talks about her comrades and how they're going to dismantle white supremacy and so on.

00:11:42.760 She also reposted and endorsed the message stating, quote,

00:11:45.880 there's no moderate way to black liberation.

00:11:50.340 And guess what?

00:11:51.020 None of this is scandalous in the Mamdani administration because they all think this way.

00:11:55.360 That's why his platform called for raising taxes on richer and whiter neighborhoods.

00:12:01.560 And as Sia Weaver, Mamdani's director of tenants, put it, they're going to impoverish the white middle class.

00:12:07.580 The white middle class, specifically.

00:12:10.140 They're going to declare that homeownership is a weapon of white supremacy.

00:12:13.360 And Mamdani himself has confirmed all of this.

00:12:16.800 If there was any confusion, watch.

00:12:20.040 And realize there's a policy proposal that says your plan, and I'm going to quote it for folks,

00:12:24.980 is to shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods.

00:12:33.880 Explain why you are bringing race into your tax proposal.

00:12:37.660 That is just a description of what we see right now.

00:12:41.420 It's not driven by race.

00:12:42.580 It's more of an assessment of what neighborhoods are being undertaxed versus overtaxed.

00:12:45.980 So no plans to change that language on your website.

00:12:49.500 The focus here is to actually ensure a fair property tax system.

00:12:53.540 And that, the use of that language is just an assessment of the neighborhood.

00:12:56.580 So it's reminiscent of the defenses we saw concerning those South African kill the boar chants.

00:13:02.440 Remember how the New York Times ran cover for that?

00:13:04.960 What exactly did you mean when you said, kill the white farmer?

00:13:10.040 Well, it's just a common expression.

00:13:12.700 It's just a figure of speech.

00:13:14.840 It doesn't really mean anything.

00:13:17.680 Actually, when you come out and say that you're going to raise taxes on whites to their white meat,

00:13:22.820 everyone understands exactly what you're doing.

00:13:26.180 The left has committed to full-on racial warfare.

00:13:29.200 And they're going to win using this strategy unless the Republican Party stops playing the same game in reverse.

00:13:40.140 You know, a big part of the reason why Republicans lost the governor's race in Virginia,

00:13:45.120 that has set up all this stuff to happen in Virginia,

00:13:47.080 is that they selected an anti-Trump candidate from Jamaica and patted themselves on the back

00:13:52.980 for their commitment to diversity.

00:13:56.540 And she spent most of the campaign talking about being an immigrant who won in a black district.

00:14:02.240 District.

00:14:02.780 And, you know, and how she can win more of the black vote.

00:14:07.120 Watch.

00:14:07.600 Let me tell you about me.

00:14:10.520 My name is Winsome Sears, and I served in the United States Marine Corps.

00:14:14.860 I was the first Republican to win a seat in the House of Delegates in a majority black district since 1865.

00:14:21.820 In the General Assembly, I had a 100% pro-life and pro-Second Amendment record.

00:14:27.460 I became the national chairman of black Americans to re-elect President Trump,

00:14:31.560 and we turned out more black voters for any Republican president since Reagan.

00:14:36.040 Now our country's falling into chaos.

00:14:39.680 But I still believe in the America that has accepted me as an immigrant

00:14:44.380 and gave us a shot at the American dream.

00:14:47.380 So that was four mentions.

00:14:49.700 That was about a 30-second or a minute ad,

00:14:53.720 and that was four mentions of black or immigrant, or maybe five, if I lost count.

00:14:59.000 Four or five mentions of black or immigrant in, you know, whatever, a 45-second ad.

00:15:04.220 And so this is still, and they lost.

00:15:08.100 What a shocker.

00:15:09.980 Now we're seeing this kind of thing replicated by Republicans across the country in other elections,

00:15:14.500 and the results will be the same.

00:15:19.240 Because this is still the Republicans' bright idea.

00:15:21.920 This is still their, oh, I know.

00:15:23.820 So if we find our own minorities to run,

00:15:29.880 and we run them regardless of whether or not they're the best fit,

00:15:33.000 and then they spend the whole campaign talking about how they're minorities,

00:15:37.080 then we'll win the minority vote.

00:15:40.900 It's never worked that way.

00:15:44.640 That strategy has never worked.

00:15:47.600 But if Republicans insist on running political campaigns on the left's terms,

00:15:54.640 the left's terms, like, which is adopting the premise that somehow being black or being an immigrant

00:16:02.080 is a qualification for office,

00:16:06.840 those are the left's terms.

00:16:08.960 And as long as Republicans adopt those terms,

00:16:12.440 they'll lose every time.

00:16:13.980 And the reason this is a losing strategy is that the left doesn't actually care

00:16:19.020 about the demographics of their candidate,

00:16:20.860 or at least that's not their primary concern, or even close to it.

00:16:24.200 Instead, the left is principally concerned with selecting candidates

00:16:27.240 who will ruthlessly and efficiently disenfranchise

00:16:30.620 and bankrupt and incarcerate

00:16:32.820 and ultimately destroy

00:16:34.520 white conservative men.

00:16:37.760 That's why they elected Joe Biden,

00:16:39.260 who allowed FBI SWAT teams to arrest,

00:16:41.060 and in some cases kill,

00:16:42.060 conservatives who offended the left on the internet.

00:16:45.280 That's why they rallied around Abigail Spanberger,

00:16:47.900 an extraordinarily dull and uncharismatic white woman.

00:16:51.500 She promised to rig all the government contracts against white men

00:16:54.620 to let the illegal aliens out of prison

00:16:56.720 to take jobs from white men

00:16:57.920 to make it easier to rob white men,

00:17:00.120 and so on.

00:17:01.380 And now she's delivering on those promises,

00:17:03.040 along with every Democrat in Virginia.

00:17:05.960 Left unchecked,

00:17:06.940 this anti-white fervor

00:17:08.220 will lead to cases like this one

00:17:09.840 out of Ontario, Canada.

00:17:11.300 A 19-year-old woman

00:17:12.500 who left her 14-month-old toddler

00:17:15.200 unattended in a full bathtub,

00:17:17.020 resulting in the child's death,

00:17:18.260 just received a mere three-year prison sentence.

00:17:22.580 And that's because,

00:17:24.560 according to the judge,

00:17:26.060 there was systemic racism

00:17:28.140 identified in the community

00:17:29.740 that explains the woman's conduct

00:17:33.380 in this case.

00:17:34.160 Yes, systemic racism,

00:17:38.220 i.e. white people,

00:17:39.640 evil white people,

00:17:40.960 explains why the woman

00:17:42.060 left her toddler alone

00:17:43.800 in a full bathtub

00:17:45.500 for five to ten minutes

00:17:47.540 without any kind of chair

00:17:50.000 or support whatsoever,

00:17:51.880 even though he couldn't walk,

00:17:53.900 and even though she had been

00:17:55.040 warned by the government

00:17:55.900 on two occasions

00:17:56.660 to never leave her child unattended.

00:17:59.540 So race, in effect,

00:18:01.080 now excuses murder in Canada.

00:18:04.160 The logic used in this case,

00:18:05.820 of course,

00:18:06.180 justifies reduced sentences

00:18:07.340 for any homicide,

00:18:08.800 including acts of violence

00:18:09.840 committed by black criminals

00:18:11.840 against whites,

00:18:12.600 which are extremely common.

00:18:13.620 In fact,

00:18:13.900 84% of interracial crimes

00:18:15.600 involving black and white people

00:18:17.140 are black-on-white crimes.

00:18:19.340 In places like Canada

00:18:20.720 and Virginia

00:18:21.580 and New York

00:18:22.100 and Minneapolis

00:18:22.640 and every other jurisdiction

00:18:23.760 controlled by leftists,

00:18:25.280 those anti-white crimes

00:18:26.300 will soon be excused

00:18:27.380 if they aren't being excused already.

00:18:30.440 We can't allow this to continue,

00:18:32.060 but Democrats will continue

00:18:34.320 racking up wins like this

00:18:35.960 unless we start

00:18:36.740 fielding candidates

00:18:37.840 that will recognize

00:18:38.680 what the left is doing

00:18:40.020 and call it out openly

00:18:41.540 and pledge to defend

00:18:44.040 white men

00:18:44.720 from the onslaught

00:18:46.300 of racial discrimination

00:18:47.280 that they will face

00:18:49.160 if and when Democrats

00:18:50.380 regain power.

00:18:53.140 You know,

00:18:53.700 Republicans that are not afraid

00:18:55.040 to say,

00:18:55.780 to explicitly say that.

00:18:57.420 these people hate white men

00:19:00.300 and want to punish them

00:19:02.360 for their,

00:19:03.620 for the,

00:19:04.020 for the sin,

00:19:05.100 for their perceived sins

00:19:06.360 and we're going to stop

00:19:08.680 that from happening.

00:19:11.320 We need Republicans

00:19:12.320 who are willing

00:19:12.840 to just say that out loud.

00:19:16.300 You know,

00:19:16.820 we've mostly defeated

00:19:17.660 the trans agenda,

00:19:18.580 which would have been,

00:19:19.860 you know,

00:19:20.680 would have had civilization

00:19:21.820 ending consequences

00:19:22.760 if we had failed

00:19:23.680 and now we have to confront

00:19:24.800 the left's anti-white agenda

00:19:26.320 which as the rise

00:19:28.620 of Democrats

00:19:29.260 across the country

00:19:30.120 demonstrates

00:19:30.740 will be a

00:19:32.440 much harder campaign

00:19:34.200 to vanquish.

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00:20:50.220 We'll start with this.

00:20:51.280 Pam Greer,

00:20:53.400 Jussie Greer

00:20:54.140 as she's known now,

00:20:55.140 Pam Smollett.

00:20:56.520 She has many names.

00:20:58.900 She used to be an actress.

00:21:00.880 She appeared on The View

00:21:01.780 and I don't know

00:21:03.640 what she's up to

00:21:04.320 these days

00:21:05.060 aside from apparently

00:21:06.160 eating a lot of cheesecake

00:21:07.240 from the looks of it,

00:21:08.880 which is fine.

00:21:09.900 She's in her 70s.

00:21:10.740 I've already said

00:21:11.400 I fully support people

00:21:13.180 over 65 getting fat,

00:21:15.060 which is what I plan to do.

00:21:16.920 But, you know,

00:21:17.820 so that's not the problem here.

00:21:20.500 The problem is this story

00:21:22.280 that she told

00:21:23.160 from her childhood

00:21:24.060 that seems a little bit

00:21:25.920 dubious, let's say.

00:21:29.340 Listen.

00:21:31.060 You faced a lot of racism

00:21:32.620 growing up in Columbus, Ohio.

00:21:35.280 How did that shape you?

00:21:38.460 Whew!

00:21:39.080 Well,

00:21:39.980 the military wouldn't allow

00:21:42.520 black families

00:21:43.120 to live on the base,

00:21:43.940 so you had to live

00:21:44.580 in an apartment.

00:21:45.060 and you couldn't

00:21:46.740 take a bus,

00:21:47.640 you couldn't afford a car,

00:21:48.740 you walked,

00:21:49.160 your dad's walked

00:21:49.860 to the base.

00:21:51.480 And, whew,

00:21:52.140 sometimes we would go

00:21:53.680 from, you know,

00:21:54.780 tree shade to shade

00:21:56.300 to get back

00:21:56.920 to the apartment,

00:21:58.020 my brother and I,

00:21:59.140 my mom,

00:21:59.620 with bags,

00:22:00.860 and my mom would go,

00:22:02.080 don't look, don't look,

00:22:02.820 don't look,

00:22:03.280 and she'd pull us away.

00:22:04.620 Wow.

00:22:05.900 Because there was someone

00:22:06.860 hanging from a tree.

00:22:08.280 Aw.

00:22:09.240 Hmm.

00:22:10.240 And they have

00:22:11.020 a memorial for it now

00:22:12.240 where you can see

00:22:14.960 where people were

00:22:15.980 and left.

00:22:17.220 Mm-hmm.

00:22:17.760 And,

00:22:18.320 it triggers me today

00:22:21.680 to see that

00:22:24.120 a voice can be silenced.

00:22:26.880 Mm-hmm.

00:22:27.380 And if a white family

00:22:28.440 supported a black,

00:22:29.440 they're gonna get burned down

00:22:30.600 or killed

00:22:31.060 or lynched as well.

00:22:32.140 Yeah.

00:22:32.420 Yeah.

00:22:34.720 Now,

00:22:35.380 I don't know why

00:22:37.460 she's dressed like

00:22:38.240 Carmen Sandiego.

00:22:40.580 That's one question.

00:22:41.620 And more importantly,

00:22:42.460 she makes a claim here

00:22:43.620 that is just not true.

00:22:47.300 Of course,

00:22:47.920 this incredibly dumb audience,

00:22:50.260 they hear her say this

00:22:51.240 and they say,

00:22:52.320 oh, my gosh.

00:22:54.100 You hear the gasp

00:22:55.040 in the crowd.

00:22:57.080 You know,

00:22:58.240 which she might as well

00:22:59.600 have said,

00:23:00.500 I remember being a child

00:23:02.420 and growing wings

00:23:06.520 and flying through the air.

00:23:08.640 and the audience goes,

00:23:11.780 oh,

00:23:12.440 you did?

00:23:14.400 Whoa.

00:23:16.480 No,

00:23:17.080 it's,

00:23:17.420 that is just as credible

00:23:18.720 as believing that

00:23:20.020 story she just told.

00:23:23.280 The last lynching

00:23:24.600 in Columbus, Ohio

00:23:25.740 was never,

00:23:27.440 actually,

00:23:27.800 there was,

00:23:28.140 there's never been

00:23:28.960 a recorded lynching

00:23:29.800 in Columbus, Ohio,

00:23:30.940 ever.

00:23:31.220 The last lynching

00:23:32.720 in the state of Ohio

00:23:34.120 in the entire state

00:23:36.180 was like 19,

00:23:38.280 I mean,

00:23:38.560 there's some people online

00:23:39.440 say it was 1911,

00:23:40.960 although I think

00:23:41.440 in that case

00:23:42.120 the police intervened

00:23:43.440 and the person

00:23:44.120 was not killed.

00:23:46.520 the last person

00:23:48.540 to actually be lynched

00:23:49.640 and left to die,

00:23:51.020 like hanging from a tree,

00:23:53.020 was in Ohio,

00:23:54.020 the entire state,

00:23:54.740 not in Columbus,

00:23:55.560 where this,

00:23:56.400 as far as we know,

00:23:57.120 never happened,

00:23:58.400 but the last time

00:23:59.560 in Ohio

00:24:00.160 that happened

00:24:00.800 was the 1890s.

00:24:04.700 And if you look up

00:24:05.840 how many lynchings

00:24:06.900 occurred in the entire state

00:24:08.280 in its history,

00:24:09.140 ever,

00:24:10.400 you'll get varying numbers,

00:24:12.320 but at most,

00:24:13.280 the highest estimate

00:24:15.140 that I could find

00:24:16.320 was like 28.

00:24:19.280 Nobody estimates

00:24:20.260 more than 30.

00:24:22.260 So let's go with that.

00:24:22.980 I mean,

00:24:23.100 it's probably more like

00:24:23.840 23 or 24,

00:24:24.760 but let's just say 30.

00:24:27.200 Rounding up,

00:24:27.920 there were 30 lynchings

00:24:29.340 in the entire history

00:24:30.720 of the state of Ohio,

00:24:33.200 ever,

00:24:34.080 from when it was founded

00:24:34.980 in 1803

00:24:36.640 to today.

00:24:39.320 And the last

00:24:40.360 fatal lynching,

00:24:42.400 we'll say,

00:24:42.660 was in the 1890s.

00:24:45.460 So really,

00:24:46.180 there were 30 lynchings,

00:24:47.240 all of them

00:24:47.640 in the 19th century,

00:24:48.720 over the span

00:24:49.320 of 100 years.

00:24:50.620 And if you count

00:24:51.520 the one in 1911,

00:24:52.940 then that's 30

00:24:53.800 over 110 years

00:24:54.820 or 11 decades,

00:24:55.960 which averages out

00:24:56.960 to about three a decade

00:24:58.460 in the whole state

00:25:00.200 for 110 years.

00:25:03.080 And over the 120 years-ish

00:25:05.380 from since 1911,

00:25:08.120 there have been

00:25:08.940 zero lynchings.

00:25:10.580 But Pam Greer's

00:25:12.600 lies even worse

00:25:13.420 because she's not

00:25:14.980 claiming, right,

00:25:16.580 that she witnessed

00:25:17.480 one lynching.

00:25:20.100 That would be

00:25:21.020 bad enough.

00:25:22.540 She tells the story

00:25:23.840 as though this was

00:25:24.660 a common occurrence

00:25:25.980 because you notice

00:25:27.940 how she phrases it.

00:25:28.960 She says,

00:25:29.460 we'd be walking along

00:25:31.440 and my mom

00:25:32.680 would tell us

00:25:33.520 to look away

00:25:34.260 because there were bodies

00:25:35.180 hanging in the tree.

00:25:35.860 That's not what you say

00:25:38.360 when you're referring

00:25:39.060 to one specific incident,

00:25:41.220 which also didn't happen.

00:25:43.500 She's claiming

00:25:44.300 this was a regular thing.

00:25:46.000 I think she said

00:25:46.960 sometimes, right?

00:25:48.140 Sometimes.

00:25:48.800 Sometimes we'd

00:25:50.040 be walking home

00:25:51.600 and there's just bodies

00:25:53.820 hanging in all the trees,

00:25:56.200 like tree ornaments.

00:25:57.480 In the 1960s,

00:25:59.380 in Ohio,

00:26:01.860 there were just

00:26:02.360 black people

00:26:03.960 hanging from trees

00:26:04.880 all over the place.

00:26:09.620 That's what she's claiming.

00:26:10.680 This is an egregious,

00:26:13.180 verifiable lie

00:26:14.460 by a famous,

00:26:16.560 well, relatively famous,

00:26:17.540 used to be famous person

00:26:18.760 on network TV.

00:26:22.280 And she lies like this

00:26:23.680 because she knows

00:26:24.420 that she has cover.

00:26:25.260 She knows that nobody

00:26:26.080 in the mainstream media

00:26:27.040 will call her out.

00:26:29.660 And yet it's still remarkable

00:26:31.280 I mean, why do this?

00:26:33.380 Why humiliate yourself this way?

00:26:35.040 What do you gain from this?

00:26:37.800 Well, you know,

00:26:38.660 it's for a leftist,

00:26:39.860 of course,

00:26:40.180 the desire to be a victim,

00:26:41.680 the desire to be pitied.

00:26:44.680 That's the desire.

00:26:45.720 It's the desire to be pitied

00:26:47.260 is what animates them.

00:26:49.760 It's what drives them.

00:26:51.840 Now, sure,

00:26:52.320 they use the victim status

00:26:53.820 to gain power,

00:26:55.240 to gain prestige

00:26:56.720 in their circles.

00:26:57.960 It's all a power game.

00:26:59.300 We know that.

00:26:59.880 But they do also

00:27:01.980 on an emotional level

00:27:03.400 when you talk about,

00:27:05.600 well, what's their emotional,

00:27:06.820 what do they get out

00:27:09.160 of this emotionally?

00:27:10.600 What's the emotional incentive?

00:27:12.880 And the answer is

00:27:13.740 they deeply desire

00:27:14.960 to be pitied,

00:27:16.480 which is the sickest,

00:27:18.640 weirdest,

00:27:19.480 most pathetic thing

00:27:21.500 for a person to want.

00:27:24.640 Right?

00:27:25.280 Pity should be

00:27:25.980 the last thing you want.

00:27:27.160 Even if you're in a position

00:27:29.260 and something has happened

00:27:30.520 to you

00:27:30.980 that is deserving

00:27:32.640 of pity,

00:27:33.620 you still shouldn't

00:27:35.560 want it.

00:27:39.000 That's how any

00:27:39.680 normal person is.

00:27:41.060 A normal person says,

00:27:42.020 I don't want your pity.

00:27:43.180 I don't want that.

00:27:46.320 And, yeah,

00:27:46.880 you have these leftists

00:27:47.720 that are

00:27:48.300 going out of their way

00:27:52.680 to come up with

00:27:55.980 reasons to be pitied.

00:27:57.720 But we should keep in mind,

00:27:58.720 you know,

00:27:59.140 claiming that there were

00:27:59.980 black people getting lynched

00:28:01.140 all over the place

00:28:01.940 in Ohio

00:28:02.460 in the 1960s

00:28:03.660 is crazy.

00:28:05.700 It's not as crazy

00:28:06.840 as

00:28:08.460 saying,

00:28:10.980 on the other hand,

00:28:11.740 that

00:28:12.080 people are being lynched

00:28:13.840 today,

00:28:14.480 which is what

00:28:16.460 leftists will say.

00:28:19.820 So,

00:28:20.480 a lot of people

00:28:21.240 have been talking about this

00:28:22.000 saying,

00:28:22.240 well,

00:28:22.320 this is,

00:28:22.820 that's nuts,

00:28:23.660 that didn't happen

00:28:24.160 in Ohio

00:28:24.560 in the 1960s.

00:28:26.080 That is nuts,

00:28:27.180 but these people

00:28:28.420 will say that

00:28:28.980 this is happening

00:28:29.740 today,

00:28:30.380 that there are

00:28:30.780 people today

00:28:31.640 who could have

00:28:32.660 this same experience

00:28:33.760 of walking down

00:28:34.880 the street

00:28:35.300 and seeing

00:28:36.040 black people

00:28:37.820 hanging from trees.

00:28:39.320 Here's,

00:28:39.900 for example,

00:28:41.400 here's Jasmine Crockett

00:28:42.600 on this point.

00:28:44.480 They're not even going,

00:28:46.080 honestly,

00:28:46.740 they're about to outlaw

00:28:47.820 the idea of

00:28:49.340 white supremacy

00:28:50.100 and white hate.

00:28:51.200 Like,

00:28:51.340 they are about to be like,

00:28:52.460 oh,

00:28:52.600 that's not a thing.

00:28:53.920 Forget the fact

00:28:54.820 that you're talking

00:28:55.980 about getting rid

00:28:56.800 of,

00:28:57.380 like,

00:28:58.360 the classification

00:28:59.000 for nooses

00:28:59.720 in a time in which

00:29:01.360 we have seen

00:29:02.680 these random

00:29:03.680 black bodies

00:29:04.500 be strung up

00:29:05.280 down south.

00:29:07.120 Also,

00:29:08.440 seemingly

00:29:08.980 at a time

00:29:10.280 in which

00:29:10.620 you're back in office

00:29:11.800 because what you do

00:29:12.720 is you embolden

00:29:13.660 the hate.

00:29:14.960 You embolden

00:29:15.620 everybody

00:29:16.220 to take off

00:29:16.880 their hoods.

00:29:17.940 That is what

00:29:18.480 he has done.

00:29:22.480 They're not even

00:29:23.320 going,

00:29:23.940 they're not even

00:29:24.940 going,

00:29:25.540 they're not even

00:29:27.160 going to be talking

00:29:27.820 about no white

00:29:28.460 supremacy.

00:29:29.840 Child,

00:29:31.300 these publicans,

00:29:33.160 they ain't even

00:29:33.940 going to talk

00:29:34.600 about.

00:29:36.960 So,

00:29:37.580 Congresswoman,

00:29:38.300 by the way,

00:29:39.320 so she says

00:29:41.120 random black

00:29:41.940 bodies are

00:29:42.560 getting lynched,

00:29:43.400 which is,

00:29:45.620 I mean,

00:29:46.880 look,

00:29:47.140 we're so used

00:29:47.600 to it at this

00:29:48.100 point,

00:29:48.480 but think

00:29:49.920 about what

00:29:50.440 you're claiming.

00:29:52.080 This is a

00:29:52.880 member of

00:29:53.360 Congress.

00:29:55.860 Just making

00:29:56.700 it up.

00:29:58.100 Totally made

00:29:58.880 up.

00:30:01.000 Random,

00:30:01.660 but really,

00:30:02.920 Jasmine,

00:30:03.260 where is that

00:30:04.060 happening?

00:30:05.400 Why have we

00:30:06.240 not seen

00:30:06.900 that?

00:30:07.720 You're telling

00:30:08.440 me everything

00:30:09.140 ends up on

00:30:10.080 social media

00:30:10.620 these days?

00:30:11.680 Okay,

00:30:11.960 if somebody

00:30:12.600 has an

00:30:13.220 unpleasant

00:30:13.680 interaction

00:30:14.380 with the

00:30:15.980 cashier at

00:30:16.540 McDonald's,

00:30:17.180 we're going

00:30:17.420 to see it

00:30:17.880 on Twitter,

00:30:18.660 but we

00:30:19.100 don't see

00:30:19.540 that.

00:30:21.460 There are

00:30:22.080 places where

00:30:22.620 there are

00:30:22.860 black bodies

00:30:23.620 hanging from

00:30:24.220 trees because

00:30:25.060 they were

00:30:25.340 lynched,

00:30:26.060 and there

00:30:26.520 are no

00:30:26.860 images of

00:30:27.320 that on

00:30:27.560 social media

00:30:28.040 whatsoever.

00:30:28.780 Anywhere.

00:30:32.640 Fascinating.

00:30:33.080 Fascinating.

00:30:34.440 No,

00:30:35.320 the last

00:30:35.740 lynching in

00:30:36.620 this country

00:30:37.080 was more

00:30:37.520 than 40

00:30:38.040 years ago.

00:30:38.840 There has

00:30:39.280 not been a

00:30:39.960 single case

00:30:40.660 in my entire

00:30:41.340 life,

00:30:41.840 and I'm

00:30:42.260 old as

00:30:42.600 hell.

00:30:43.680 And that

00:30:46.280 one case

00:30:47.020 was the

00:30:47.340 only one

00:30:47.860 for the

00:30:48.780 several

00:30:49.100 decades

00:30:49.560 preceding

00:30:50.120 it.

00:30:51.540 And by

00:30:52.160 the way,

00:30:52.380 here's one

00:30:52.640 other point

00:30:53.080 I want to

00:30:53.360 make since

00:30:53.800 we're on

00:30:54.060 the subject

00:30:54.480 of lynching.

00:30:57.280 Clearly,

00:30:57.960 anyone claiming

00:30:58.600 that it

00:30:58.960 happens today

00:30:59.620 is insane

00:31:00.580 or lying

00:31:01.260 or both,

00:31:02.180 and same

00:31:02.560 goes for

00:31:02.920 anyone claiming

00:31:03.460 that it

00:31:03.760 happened in

00:31:04.200 Ohio in

00:31:04.760 the 1960s.

00:31:05.900 But there

00:31:06.380 is another

00:31:06.680 point,

00:31:07.080 which is

00:31:07.300 that when

00:31:08.800 we hear

00:31:09.080 about lynching

00:31:09.640 in American

00:31:10.040 history,

00:31:10.700 back in a

00:31:11.360 time and

00:31:11.760 in a place

00:31:12.200 where it

00:31:12.520 did happen,

00:31:14.100 historically it

00:31:14.960 did happen.

00:31:16.500 But I

00:31:18.160 think it's

00:31:18.420 worth pointing

00:31:18.860 out because

00:31:19.240 this is one

00:31:19.760 of those

00:31:19.980 things that's

00:31:20.520 used to

00:31:21.400 prop up the

00:31:22.760 narrative of

00:31:23.240 white guilt.

00:31:23.960 It's worth

00:31:24.420 pointing out

00:31:24.920 that even

00:31:26.640 in the,

00:31:28.380 I guess we

00:31:28.860 would say,

00:31:29.340 heyday of

00:31:29.980 lynching,

00:31:30.420 it was

00:31:31.020 not common

00:31:32.760 and it

00:31:33.340 was also

00:31:33.780 not always

00:31:34.900 racially

00:31:35.440 motivated.

00:31:36.520 In fact,

00:31:37.200 it often

00:31:37.740 wasn't.

00:31:39.200 And this

00:31:39.520 is what the

00:31:39.860 left does

00:31:40.380 with history.

00:31:41.120 Either they

00:31:41.720 fabricate stuff

00:31:42.680 that never

00:31:43.080 happened or

00:31:45.000 they take

00:31:45.420 some event,

00:31:46.660 they take

00:31:46.940 some data

00:31:47.700 set,

00:31:48.080 they take

00:31:48.320 something that

00:31:49.240 does reflect

00:31:50.140 a thing that

00:31:51.180 actually happened

00:31:51.640 but they frame

00:31:52.340 it in a

00:31:53.440 misleading way

00:31:54.280 and then they

00:31:55.240 play this

00:31:55.620 gaslighting game

00:31:56.580 where you're

00:31:57.680 not allowed to

00:31:58.260 correct them

00:31:58.940 because if

00:31:59.460 you do,

00:32:00.060 they can just

00:32:00.840 say whatever

00:32:01.100 they want

00:32:01.420 about lynching

00:32:01.960 and if you,

00:32:03.480 especially as a

00:32:03.900 white person,

00:32:04.440 come along and

00:32:04.940 say,

00:32:05.160 well,

00:32:05.340 that's not

00:32:05.820 actually what

00:32:06.740 happened,

00:32:07.400 then they'll

00:32:07.720 go,

00:32:07.940 what are you

00:32:08.720 justifying

00:32:09.700 lynching?

00:32:10.340 Why do you

00:32:11.580 have to say

00:32:11.980 anything?

00:32:13.520 What are you

00:32:13.900 justifying it?

00:32:16.000 This is what

00:32:16.620 they do with

00:32:17.000 slavery,

00:32:17.580 which we talk

00:32:18.520 about in

00:32:18.860 Real History,

00:32:19.520 which is

00:32:19.840 available now

00:32:20.680 on Daily Wire.

00:32:21.760 So,

00:32:22.480 with lynching,

00:32:25.240 you know,

00:32:25.660 even though we're

00:32:26.320 not supposed to

00:32:28.260 correct it,

00:32:29.540 it's like,

00:32:29.920 yeah,

00:32:30.300 black people

00:32:30.860 were lynched

00:32:31.380 all the time

00:32:32.280 and it was a

00:32:32.720 terrible thing,

00:32:33.020 it was always

00:32:33.320 racist,

00:32:34.440 it was never

00:32:35.200 justified,

00:32:36.360 it was like,

00:32:36.920 just go with

00:32:37.720 it,

00:32:38.000 don't say it,

00:32:39.000 just go with

00:32:39.580 it,

00:32:39.720 that's the

00:32:40.080 attitude,

00:32:41.520 but,

00:32:43.140 because I

00:32:44.300 got to be

00:32:44.560 the guy

00:32:44.880 always,

00:32:46.400 to just point

00:32:47.100 out,

00:32:47.360 I got to be

00:32:47.680 that guy,

00:32:49.080 that,

00:32:50.220 in fact,

00:32:51.660 with lynching,

00:32:52.620 something like

00:32:53.300 a thousand or

00:32:54.280 more of the

00:32:55.220 lynching victims

00:32:56.080 from like

00:32:58.200 the 1860s

00:33:00.000 to the 1930s

00:33:00.940 or so,

00:33:01.360 which is

00:33:01.580 during the

00:33:01.980 time when

00:33:02.400 this sort

00:33:02.680 of thing

00:33:02.820 was happening,

00:33:03.760 about a

00:33:04.100 thousand of

00:33:04.640 the victims

00:33:05.080 were white.

00:33:07.480 It's a

00:33:08.040 large percentage.

00:33:09.440 It's probably

00:33:10.120 about 25 to

00:33:10.900 30 percent,

00:33:11.960 not a small

00:33:12.400 percentage.

00:33:13.820 White people

00:33:14.480 got lynched

00:33:14.960 too.

00:33:15.700 And what

00:33:16.060 does that

00:33:16.340 tell you?

00:33:16.680 Well,

00:33:16.780 it tells you

00:33:17.340 that lynching

00:33:19.180 is not

00:33:19.860 synonymous

00:33:20.440 with racial

00:33:21.780 terrorism.

00:33:22.600 Sometimes it

00:33:23.080 was,

00:33:23.700 that did

00:33:24.200 happen,

00:33:24.560 but what

00:33:26.700 lynching

00:33:27.120 really means

00:33:28.080 historically

00:33:29.180 in this

00:33:29.640 country is

00:33:30.820 an extra

00:33:31.360 judicial

00:33:31.800 killing

00:33:32.580 by hanging,

00:33:34.500 you know,

00:33:34.800 in the most

00:33:35.320 technical sense.

00:33:37.040 And for a

00:33:37.740 portion of

00:33:38.260 U.S.

00:33:38.540 history,

00:33:38.980 especially out

00:33:39.500 on the

00:33:39.720 frontier,

00:33:40.320 out in

00:33:40.520 the Old

00:33:40.760 West,

00:33:41.980 this kind

00:33:42.500 of killing

00:33:42.900 was relatively

00:33:44.880 common

00:33:46.620 because they

00:33:48.040 didn't have

00:33:48.380 a court

00:33:48.700 system and

00:33:49.280 they didn't

00:33:49.500 have much

00:33:50.580 of it.

00:33:50.840 They didn't

00:33:51.620 have a

00:33:51.880 sophisticated

00:33:52.320 court system

00:33:53.300 or law

00:33:53.680 enforcement

00:33:54.060 that could

00:33:55.680 handle

00:33:56.360 some of

00:33:57.540 this stuff.

00:33:58.500 And so

00:33:58.820 you ended

00:33:59.180 up with

00:33:59.620 kind of

00:33:59.900 this mob

00:34:00.440 justice.

00:34:02.280 So you

00:34:03.120 could get

00:34:03.500 lynched

00:34:04.120 if the

00:34:05.000 townsfolk

00:34:05.620 thought that

00:34:06.220 you were

00:34:06.660 a murderer

00:34:07.140 or a

00:34:08.080 rapist

00:34:08.520 or a

00:34:08.860 horse

00:34:09.080 thief.

00:34:09.340 That was

00:34:09.560 a big

00:34:09.760 one.

00:34:11.380 And so

00:34:12.880 when we

00:34:13.600 talk about

00:34:14.160 the total

00:34:14.840 number of

00:34:15.300 people where

00:34:15.800 this happened,

00:34:16.500 it's like,

00:34:16.940 well,

00:34:18.840 a significant

00:34:21.460 portion of

00:34:22.200 that had

00:34:22.860 nothing to

00:34:23.480 do with

00:34:23.680 race.

00:34:24.480 And some

00:34:25.040 of them

00:34:25.200 weren't

00:34:25.360 even

00:34:25.520 black.

00:34:29.240 There were

00:34:30.240 racially

00:34:30.700 motivated

00:34:31.180 lynchings.

00:34:31.660 That did

00:34:31.880 happen,

00:34:32.240 too.

00:34:32.620 But if you

00:34:33.600 look at

00:34:33.880 the estimates,

00:34:34.540 which obviously

00:34:35.820 are not

00:34:36.300 exact,

00:34:37.320 but most

00:34:37.760 people estimate

00:34:38.440 that something

00:34:39.300 like 4,000 to

00:34:39.920 5,000 people

00:34:40.820 were lynched

00:34:41.360 in America

00:34:41.780 total in the

00:34:43.040 entire history

00:34:43.540 of the

00:34:43.760 country,

00:34:44.400 not a large

00:34:45.460 number.

00:34:46.640 Well,

00:34:47.020 about 1,300

00:34:47.660 of those

00:34:48.180 victims were

00:34:48.720 white.

00:34:49.020 that leaves

00:34:50.900 like 3,000 to

00:34:51.400 4,000 on the

00:34:52.220 entire history

00:34:52.640 of the country

00:34:53.080 who were

00:34:53.460 black,

00:34:53.840 who were

00:34:53.960 lynched.

00:34:54.920 And,

00:34:55.260 well,

00:34:55.880 if white

00:34:56.200 people were

00:34:56.560 lynched for

00:34:57.240 non-racial

00:34:58.000 reasons,

00:34:58.460 obviously,

00:34:58.900 then it

00:34:59.140 stands to

00:34:59.520 reason that

00:34:59.880 there were

00:35:00.100 also cases

00:35:00.720 where that

00:35:01.040 happened to

00:35:01.300 black people

00:35:01.700 because they,

00:35:03.380 in fact,

00:35:03.740 committed a

00:35:04.160 crime or

00:35:04.500 they at

00:35:05.140 least were

00:35:05.560 accused of

00:35:06.600 it,

00:35:06.980 just like the

00:35:07.720 white people

00:35:08.080 who were

00:35:08.300 lynched.

00:35:09.040 So now you

00:35:09.800 take out the

00:35:10.240 people who

00:35:10.680 were lynched

00:35:11.120 not for

00:35:11.560 racial reasons,

00:35:12.180 but as a

00:35:12.760 form of

00:35:13.420 justice for

00:35:14.420 serious crimes

00:35:15.160 in times and

00:35:16.280 places where

00:35:16.680 they didn't

00:35:16.900 have a

00:35:17.160 sophisticated

00:35:17.540 legal system.

00:35:19.660 And so now

00:35:20.980 you're narrowing

00:35:21.460 it down,

00:35:21.800 narrowing it

00:35:22.100 down,

00:35:22.340 and now you

00:35:22.860 have the

00:35:23.520 percentage,

00:35:24.400 whatever that

00:35:24.760 percentage is,

00:35:25.240 I don't know,

00:35:26.920 where,

00:35:27.580 okay,

00:35:27.740 now those are

00:35:28.500 the people

00:35:28.880 who were

00:35:29.280 actually victims

00:35:30.500 of racially

00:35:31.500 motivated

00:35:32.180 terrorism.

00:35:34.540 But it's

00:35:35.140 not all

00:35:35.880 5,000,

00:35:36.720 not even

00:35:37.600 really close

00:35:38.080 to all

00:35:38.540 5,000.

00:35:39.380 Even if it

00:35:39.840 was,

00:35:40.240 that's still

00:35:40.620 a small

00:35:41.160 number over

00:35:41.620 the entire

00:35:42.120 history of

00:35:42.520 the country.

00:35:44.080 that doesn't

00:35:49.140 tell the

00:35:49.380 whole story.

00:35:49.780 And I

00:35:49.920 realize,

00:35:50.500 and look,

00:35:50.980 I realize

00:35:51.440 that everything

00:35:51.860 I'm saying

00:35:52.240 right now,

00:35:52.680 this is going

00:35:52.940 to get

00:35:53.120 clipped,

00:35:53.700 it's going

00:35:53.980 to end

00:35:54.180 up,

00:35:54.400 media

00:35:54.540 matters or

00:35:54.980 whatever,

00:35:55.260 it's going

00:35:55.440 to end

00:35:55.560 up on

00:35:55.880 X and

00:35:56.640 people,

00:35:57.160 oh,

00:35:57.360 he's

00:35:58.220 justifying,

00:35:58.800 he's saying,

00:35:59.400 he's justifying

00:36:00.180 it.

00:36:01.280 Because this

00:36:01.880 is the game

00:36:02.280 they play.

00:36:02.700 They just

00:36:03.000 say things

00:36:03.500 about history

00:36:04.000 that are

00:36:04.540 not true

00:36:05.500 or are

00:36:06.200 out of

00:36:06.560 context or

00:36:07.520 it's like

00:36:09.260 there's more

00:36:09.840 to the story

00:36:10.400 that needs

00:36:10.800 to be said

00:36:11.380 and you're

00:36:11.780 not allowed

00:36:12.340 to correct

00:36:12.840 it.

00:36:14.080 Because if

00:36:14.660 you correct

00:36:15.200 it,

00:36:16.560 that's their

00:36:17.760 attitude.

00:36:18.740 And they'll

00:36:19.060 almost tell

00:36:19.520 you this.

00:36:21.320 Because if you

00:36:21.940 start correcting

00:36:22.600 them on something

00:36:23.180 like this,

00:36:23.720 they'll say,

00:36:24.460 yeah,

00:36:24.960 whatever.

00:36:26.420 Okay,

00:36:26.940 fine,

00:36:27.280 whatever.

00:36:27.680 But we don't

00:36:28.320 need to talk

00:36:28.780 about that.

00:36:29.540 Just let us

00:36:30.320 do this.

00:36:31.360 That's their

00:36:31.900 answer to their

00:36:32.600 historical lies.

00:36:33.620 Just let us

00:36:34.200 do this,

00:36:34.540 okay?

00:36:35.300 We came up

00:36:36.000 with this

00:36:36.240 narrative and

00:36:37.280 this is the

00:36:37.860 thing,

00:36:38.120 this is what

00:36:38.400 we're saying,

00:36:38.820 it's very

00:36:39.120 simplistic,

00:36:39.600 it's not

00:36:39.860 totally true,

00:36:40.520 but just let

00:36:41.580 us do this

00:36:42.000 because it

00:36:42.360 makes us feel

00:36:42.860 good.

00:36:43.100 And when

00:36:44.120 you start

00:36:44.420 questioning it

00:36:44.960 a little bit,

00:36:45.460 it makes us

00:36:45.860 feel bad,

00:36:46.320 so shut up.

00:36:46.880 That's their

00:36:47.220 argument.

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00:38:00.320 All right,

00:38:00.980 let's take a

00:38:01.540 look at

00:38:02.000 at this.

00:38:07.060 Here's a quick

00:38:07.480 thing.

00:38:08.100 Well, not really

00:38:09.840 a quick issue,

00:38:10.360 but I'll touch

00:38:10.680 on it quickly.

00:38:11.100 CBS News,

00:38:11.880 President Trump

00:38:12.380 had set January

00:38:13.540 20th as a

00:38:14.700 deadline for

00:38:15.600 credit card

00:38:16.140 companies to

00:38:17.420 lower their

00:38:17.960 interest rates

00:38:18.740 to 10% for

00:38:20.400 one year.

00:38:21.600 And now that

00:38:22.040 the date has

00:38:22.480 arrived, most

00:38:23.640 banks and

00:38:24.140 card issuers

00:38:25.500 have largely

00:38:27.700 kept their rates

00:38:28.400 on change while

00:38:29.060 also pushing

00:38:29.540 back against an

00:38:30.940 idea that they

00:38:31.480 say lacks key

00:38:32.260 policy details

00:38:33.140 necessary for

00:38:33.700 them to comply.

00:38:34.840 Mr. Trump

00:38:35.160 announced the

00:38:35.640 cap on January

00:38:36.300 9th, giving

00:38:37.160 banks and

00:38:38.160 issuers just

00:38:38.940 11 days to

00:38:39.880 meet his

00:38:40.280 demand of

00:38:42.160 getting the

00:38:42.620 rates down

00:38:43.400 to 10%.

00:38:44.720 But so far,

00:38:47.020 so the deadline

00:38:47.600 has arrived and

00:38:49.220 a lot of

00:38:49.880 these, nobody

00:38:51.060 has complied

00:38:51.620 with it and

00:38:51.980 nothing has

00:38:52.260 happened to

00:38:52.520 them so

00:38:52.760 far.

00:38:53.700 So I think

00:38:57.160 this is an

00:38:57.540 interesting thing

00:38:58.280 and I

00:39:01.100 support the

00:39:01.660 idea if it's

00:39:02.620 ever actually

00:39:03.140 implemented

00:39:03.580 because a lot

00:39:05.440 of these credit

00:39:05.840 cards, 20%,

00:39:06.900 30% interest

00:39:07.760 rates, and

00:39:08.840 those are

00:39:09.240 insane, that's

00:39:10.040 immoral, usury

00:39:11.140 is a sin, and

00:39:13.160 bringing those

00:39:13.700 down is a good

00:39:14.300 idea.

00:39:15.660 But it doesn't

00:39:16.360 really get to the

00:39:16.840 heart of the

00:39:17.140 problem, which

00:39:17.720 is that Americans

00:39:18.980 are increasingly

00:39:19.900 basically living

00:39:20.880 their whole lives

00:39:21.820 on credit.

00:39:23.680 This is something

00:39:24.340 that Charlie

00:39:25.060 Kirk talked

00:39:25.600 about with

00:39:26.100 Tucker, and

00:39:28.280 I saw a clip

00:39:28.900 floating around

00:39:29.600 again after it

00:39:32.720 was posted

00:39:33.100 originally by, I'm

00:39:33.960 not sure who,

00:39:35.360 Captive Dreamer,

00:39:36.180 I think, posted

00:39:36.640 originally.

00:39:37.380 So Charlie was

00:39:38.260 talking about what

00:39:39.340 we've discussed

00:39:39.840 here, which is

00:39:40.780 the scourge of

00:39:41.680 BNPL, which is

00:39:43.160 buy now, pay

00:39:43.880 later.

00:39:44.640 And this is a

00:39:45.440 system that's

00:39:46.320 technically

00:39:46.780 not credit, so

00:39:48.400 it's not

00:39:48.780 regulated the

00:39:49.600 same way, but

00:39:51.380 it allows you

00:39:52.200 to defer

00:39:52.880 payment for

00:39:54.200 something or

00:39:54.880 to break up

00:39:55.520 payments into

00:39:56.440 increments.

00:39:57.860 And this is

00:39:58.840 not a new

00:39:59.480 invention.

00:40:00.940 What is new

00:40:01.780 is that now

00:40:03.440 you can do

00:40:03.920 this with

00:40:06.000 everything.

00:40:07.880 Right?

00:40:08.420 You can do

00:40:09.060 it with any

00:40:09.480 retail product,

00:40:10.380 you can do

00:40:10.680 it with

00:40:10.960 electronics,

00:40:11.900 furniture,

00:40:12.360 appliances, all

00:40:14.060 of that has

00:40:14.700 been the case

00:40:15.080 for a while,

00:40:15.520 but now also

00:40:16.300 groceries,

00:40:18.800 fast food,

00:40:20.540 pizza,

00:40:22.060 Uber Eats,

00:40:23.180 Instacart.

00:40:24.760 So increasingly

00:40:25.280 we now live in

00:40:25.980 a country where

00:40:26.720 not only is

00:40:27.980 everyone crushed

00:40:28.780 by debt all

00:40:30.840 the time, but

00:40:31.560 also nobody

00:40:33.780 owns anything.

00:40:35.520 And that

00:40:36.360 to me is the

00:40:39.420 core of the

00:40:39.900 issue.

00:40:41.680 I mean,

00:40:41.880 there are

00:40:42.400 people,

00:40:43.980 adults in this

00:40:44.520 country who

00:40:45.020 don't own

00:40:45.800 anything,

00:40:47.900 like anything

00:40:49.020 at all.

00:40:51.360 So now we

00:40:52.000 could be in

00:40:52.240 a spot where

00:40:52.700 you might not

00:40:53.160 even own the

00:40:53.960 burrito you're

00:40:54.700 eating because

00:40:55.680 it's on a

00:40:56.120 payment plan.

00:40:58.440 Even that has

00:40:59.200 to be paid

00:40:59.620 off.

00:41:00.900 So just imagine

00:41:01.800 this scenario,

00:41:02.720 and there's

00:41:03.440 plenty of people

00:41:03.840 who don't have

00:41:04.220 to imagine it

00:41:04.820 because they

00:41:05.180 live it,

00:41:05.440 but a

00:41:06.160 person,

00:41:06.600 a young

00:41:06.860 person in

00:41:07.600 particular,

00:41:10.280 sits down

00:41:11.920 in his

00:41:12.160 house at

00:41:13.600 his table

00:41:14.080 to eat

00:41:15.780 his Chipotle

00:41:16.560 dinner.

00:41:18.400 Well,

00:41:19.080 the house

00:41:19.640 is rented

00:41:20.140 or it's

00:41:22.600 on a 50

00:41:23.080 year mortgage,

00:41:24.280 which is

00:41:24.700 something Trump

00:41:25.680 wants to do.

00:41:27.020 The table

00:41:27.840 and chair

00:41:28.360 still being

00:41:30.160 paid off,

00:41:31.280 and so is

00:41:32.540 the burrito

00:41:33.120 bowl that he's

00:41:33.820 eating.

00:41:35.440 He doesn't

00:41:36.160 even own

00:41:36.520 the fork

00:41:37.000 that he's

00:41:37.300 eating it

00:41:37.620 with.

00:41:39.580 So there's

00:41:39.880 this common

00:41:41.860 scenario where

00:41:44.380 you would look

00:41:44.880 at that and

00:41:45.140 you think,

00:41:45.340 well, okay,

00:41:45.620 he owns all

00:41:46.040 that stuff.

00:41:48.020 This is a

00:41:48.560 guy who at

00:41:49.000 least owns a

00:41:49.600 table, a

00:41:50.000 chair, a

00:41:50.620 burrito bowl,

00:41:51.300 and a

00:41:51.460 house.

00:41:53.000 Well,

00:41:53.340 increasingly,

00:41:53.940 no, he

00:41:54.140 don't own

00:41:54.400 any of it.

00:41:54.940 All of it's

00:41:55.560 either on

00:41:56.140 credit or

00:41:56.840 it's on a

00:41:58.460 payment plan.

00:42:00.720 And that's

00:42:01.280 the problem.

00:42:01.560 The problem

00:42:01.800 here isn't

00:42:02.220 just the debt,

00:42:03.520 although that's

00:42:03.940 a big part

00:42:04.360 of it.

00:42:04.620 The problem

00:42:05.540 is a

00:42:05.980 generation that

00:42:07.140 doesn't own

00:42:07.580 anything and

00:42:08.500 therefore has

00:42:09.120 no steak in

00:42:11.820 the country.

00:42:12.900 Every January,

00:42:13.920 people set big

00:42:14.820 goals about

00:42:15.460 eating better,

00:42:16.340 being healthier,

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00:42:18.020 hits.

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00:43:33.140 All right, The

00:43:33.460 Independent has this

00:43:34.540 report.

00:43:34.860 Iowa Republican

00:43:35.540 Senator Chuck

00:43:36.740 Grassley has

00:43:37.540 signaled a

00:43:38.080 possible break

00:43:39.960 with President

00:43:41.620 Donald Trump over

00:43:42.220 the passage of

00:43:42.860 the Safeguard

00:43:43.620 American Voters

00:43:44.920 Eligibility Act,

00:43:46.360 the SAVE Act,

00:43:47.540 which would require

00:43:48.200 proof of

00:43:48.720 citizenship to

00:43:49.420 vote.

00:43:50.340 The president has

00:43:50.960 complained since

00:43:51.580 his defeat in

00:43:52.080 2020 about voter

00:43:55.040 fraud.

00:43:55.500 Texas Republican

00:43:57.060 Representative

00:43:57.740 Chip Roy

00:43:58.860 introduced the

00:43:59.680 SAVE Act last

00:44:00.380 January,

00:44:01.480 proposing to

00:44:02.200 amend the

00:44:02.700 National Registration

00:44:03.480 Act and block

00:44:04.980 non-citizens from

00:44:06.020 voting.

00:44:06.820 And it passed the

00:44:07.620 House of Representatives

00:44:08.400 by 220 to 2208,

00:44:11.520 sends the bill to the

00:44:12.180 Senate.

00:44:12.760 If passed,

00:44:13.260 the bill would,

00:44:14.080 and this is,

00:44:14.560 now I'm just reading

00:44:15.180 the Independent,

00:44:16.620 this is how they

00:44:17.240 describe it.

00:44:17.880 If passed,

00:44:18.460 the bill could

00:44:18.860 disenfranchise millions

00:44:19.920 of eligible voters who

00:44:21.060 lack easy access to

00:44:22.220 identification documents

00:44:23.280 and would upend how

00:44:25.360 states register people

00:44:27.240 to vote online or

00:44:28.140 through automatic or

00:44:29.040 same-day registration.

00:44:31.600 In a letter to a

00:44:32.660 constituent posted on

00:44:33.340 social media by

00:44:34.080 MAGA activist Scott

00:44:35.520 Pressler,

00:44:36.200 Grassley,

00:44:36.780 the Senate's 92-year-old

00:44:38.160 president pro-tempo,

00:44:39.880 has expressed sympathy

00:44:41.420 for his correspondent's

00:44:42.460 stated concerns about

00:44:43.760 election security,

00:44:45.660 but then added that he,

00:44:48.780 I have opposed partisan

00:44:49.780 efforts in Washington,

00:44:50.560 D.C. to federalize

00:44:51.460 elections in order to

00:44:52.200 undermine election

00:44:53.060 integrity.

00:44:54.000 I do not believe that

00:44:54.980 Iowa and other states

00:44:55.940 need politicians in

00:44:57.000 Washington dictating and

00:44:58.720 controlling how states

00:45:00.160 run their elections.

00:45:01.960 All right,

00:45:02.480 now obviously this bill

00:45:03.380 should pass.

00:45:04.300 We need voter ID.

00:45:05.880 I don't think I need to

00:45:06.760 go through all the

00:45:07.360 arguments or point out

00:45:08.640 how ID is already

00:45:10.140 required for many of

00:45:11.980 the other things that

00:45:12.880 normal adults do on a

00:45:14.060 day-to-day basis,

00:45:15.000 like driving or opening

00:45:16.660 up a credit card or a

00:45:18.500 bank account or anything.

00:45:19.540 You cannot be a

00:45:20.740 functional adult in

00:45:21.840 America and not have

00:45:24.260 ID.

00:45:26.080 We all know that,

00:45:27.060 or at least the

00:45:27.760 reasonable people among

00:45:29.160 us already know that.

00:45:30.160 And the article tells us

00:45:31.460 that the act would

00:45:32.300 disenfranchise millions

00:45:33.900 of Americans who lack

00:45:36.160 easy access to ID.

00:45:37.780 Well, the second part of

00:45:38.840 that is false.

00:45:40.300 Every American has easy

00:45:43.020 access to ID.

00:45:44.260 No matter where you

00:45:46.060 live, no matter where

00:45:47.960 you live, in modern

00:45:49.680 America, you have easy

00:45:51.180 access to ID.

00:45:53.080 Unless you live out deep

00:45:55.580 in the Alaskan wilderness,

00:45:57.380 okay, unless you're doing

00:45:58.900 an into the wild thing

00:46:00.260 where you're living in an

00:46:01.380 old bus off the grid in

00:46:03.100 the wilderness hunting

00:46:04.340 moose until you eat the

00:46:06.740 wrong kind of berry and

00:46:08.000 die, unless that's your

00:46:10.000 situation, you have easy

00:46:11.500 access to ID.

00:46:12.360 And this claim is

00:46:13.240 especially absurd

00:46:14.120 because, as we all

00:46:16.320 know, it's not talking

00:46:18.000 about people living in

00:46:19.380 the wilderness in

00:46:19.980 Alaska because those

00:46:20.880 people will tend to be

00:46:21.920 white.

00:46:23.460 No, this is referring

00:46:24.800 specifically to black

00:46:26.240 people.

00:46:27.420 And most of them live in

00:46:29.760 urban environments where

00:46:32.420 not only is there going

00:46:33.380 to be a DMV a few blocks

00:46:34.780 away, but there's public

00:46:36.840 transportation to get you

00:46:38.060 there.

00:46:38.280 So, we all know that.

00:46:42.020 Will voter ID disenfranchise

00:46:43.780 millions of Americans?

00:46:45.980 I hope so.

00:46:48.800 Hopefully it will.

00:46:51.300 You know, when I read

00:46:52.000 something like that, well,

00:46:52.940 this will disenfranchise

00:46:54.300 millions of, God, music to

00:46:56.920 my ears.

00:46:57.780 God, I hope so.

00:47:00.260 And that's just me.

00:47:01.060 Okay, all the voters who

00:47:03.380 are so dumb and so

00:47:04.900 helpless and so

00:47:05.920 incompetent that they

00:47:08.400 don't have IDs and can't

00:47:10.840 figure out how to obtain

00:47:12.340 one, I am very glad to

00:47:16.200 disenfranchise all of

00:47:17.740 them.

00:47:19.020 So, when someone's

00:47:20.360 counterargument is, yeah,

00:47:21.720 look at all these helpless

00:47:22.780 morons who don't know how

00:47:25.740 to participate in society as

00:47:27.880 adults.

00:47:28.340 What about them?

00:47:29.800 This will disenfranchise

00:47:30.960 them.

00:47:31.340 I hear that and I say,

00:47:33.040 good.

00:47:34.760 Yes.

00:47:36.940 That's exactly the point.

00:47:39.360 At least to me.

00:47:41.240 I mean, yes, it's, we want

00:47:42.300 to safeguard election

00:47:43.240 integrity.

00:47:43.720 We don't want voter fraud.

00:47:45.280 But, also, if it's, if

00:47:49.940 this has the effect of

00:47:51.320 excluding the dumbest and

00:47:53.480 most incompetent people in

00:47:54.980 the country from being able

00:47:56.500 to vote, I see that as a

00:47:58.340 major bonus.

00:48:02.120 Like, they should already

00:48:03.220 be disenfranchised just

00:48:04.880 based on their incompetence

00:48:06.140 and lack of intelligence to

00:48:07.860 begin with.

00:48:09.700 So, if this is the way that

00:48:11.800 we achieve that, I think,

00:48:13.560 very worthwhile goal, then

00:48:15.820 that works for me.

00:48:19.040 Works for me.

00:48:19.780 Even if you could convince me,

00:48:23.620 even if you could argue that,

00:48:25.720 well, this isn't going to do

00:48:26.460 anything to help prevent

00:48:27.860 voter fraud, which I don't,

00:48:29.660 I don't think that's true,

00:48:30.560 just to be clear.

00:48:31.240 I think it will help prevent

00:48:32.240 voter fraud.

00:48:33.340 But even if you could make the

00:48:34.740 argument that it won't help

00:48:36.020 with that, I would still

00:48:37.280 support it.

00:48:39.940 Because it will weed out the

00:48:42.220 dumbest and most incompetent

00:48:43.660 people in the country who should

00:48:45.280 not be voting and should not have

00:48:47.340 any say in the direction of

00:48:49.180 this country.

00:48:52.160 But putting all that to the

00:48:53.240 side, I just want to think

00:48:54.320 about this part, where it says,

00:48:57.960 again, in a letter to a

00:48:58.780 constituent posted on social

00:48:59.720 media, Grassley, the Senate's

00:49:01.480 92-year-old.

00:49:04.000 That's it.

00:49:04.540 I just want to focus on 92,

00:49:05.900 92 years old.

00:49:09.240 Why in God's name are we

00:49:10.840 allowing 92-year-olds to serve

00:49:13.580 in any position in government,

00:49:15.280 let alone in the Senate?

00:49:18.180 I mean, I've been calling for

00:49:19.260 age limits in Congress and in

00:49:21.240 the White House for years now.

00:49:25.040 Can we at least agree on 90 as

00:49:29.680 a cutoff?

00:49:30.380 Can we do that?

00:49:31.120 Can we start incrementally?

00:49:34.200 Like, can we at least say that

00:49:35.460 when you're 10 years away from

00:49:37.060 being a century old, it's time to

00:49:39.860 retire?

00:49:40.260 Now, I want to make the age

00:49:43.440 limit for Congress and the

00:49:45.300 presidency, 70, 75.

00:49:48.980 That's what I would like to do.

00:49:51.740 But if we can't agree on that,

00:49:53.200 I'll take anything I can get.

00:49:54.400 Okay?

00:49:54.700 I'll take anything I can get on

00:49:55.960 this.

00:49:56.420 So can we, let's start, let's

00:49:58.040 start really easy.

00:49:59.920 How about 90?

00:50:01.400 Can we make the cutoff 90 just to

00:50:03.540 start?

00:50:07.100 But there are people who would

00:50:08.080 oppose that too.

00:50:08.800 Okay?

00:50:10.260 I could say, can we set the age

00:50:11.700 limit at 150?

00:50:13.420 I mean, can we at least, there

00:50:15.020 are people that say, well, why

00:50:16.260 should we?

00:50:17.880 What if a mummy wants to be in

00:50:20.320 Senate, in the Senate?

00:50:21.680 Should we exclude all the mummies?

00:50:25.240 That's ageist.

00:50:28.220 Okay, when you're, when you're,

00:50:30.080 when you're so old that you're

00:50:33.260 Pope old, when you're too old,

00:50:36.680 yeah, like when you're so old that

00:50:37.900 you would be old for a Pope.

00:50:39.200 Then you're too old to be a

00:50:41.700 politician.

00:50:43.320 You know, I, I think we should be

00:50:45.520 able to say that that's because

00:50:47.380 that's how I, I don't know if I'm

00:50:48.420 the only one who does this, but

00:50:49.440 this is kind of how I look at

00:50:50.720 aging.

00:50:53.520 Where I look at it based on

00:50:55.040 professions.

00:50:57.020 So for me, I probably am alone in

00:50:59.380 this.

00:50:59.600 I'm obviously mentally ill, but I,

00:51:03.120 I, so I, I recently, I recently

00:51:04.980 became NFL quarterback old.

00:51:06.920 That was a big moment in my life

00:51:08.920 where if I, now at the age of 39,

00:51:11.700 if I was in the NFL, I would be

00:51:13.380 ancient.

00:51:14.240 I would be like a wily old veteran.

00:51:16.080 I'd be, I'm grandfather age for the

00:51:18.040 NFL.

00:51:19.280 However, if I ran for Congress,

00:51:20.780 then I'm, I'm an energetic,

00:51:23.500 spry, rambunctious youngster at the

00:51:25.940 age of 39.

00:51:27.520 So I'm NFL old, but I'm Congress

00:51:29.380 young.

00:51:30.580 And then you can kind of do that.

00:51:31.660 And then when you get into your

00:51:32.420 sixties, well, you're old in a lot

00:51:34.620 of context, but now you're president

00:51:36.300 young and you're sixties and you run

00:51:38.280 for president, you're like the young

00:51:40.720 upstart.

00:51:42.040 And then once you get into your

00:51:43.160 seventies, you're old in all areas of

00:51:44.980 life, unless you become Pope.

00:51:47.460 If you become Pope at 70, people will

00:51:50.500 look at you and say, wow, it's nice to

00:51:52.660 have a young Pope.

00:51:54.080 It's nice to have a young Pope.

00:51:55.400 This is, this is, this is great.

00:51:56.820 Pope Leo is 70 and people were said

00:51:58.700 that about him.

00:51:59.260 So my only point is that we have people

00:52:02.200 in Congress right now that would be

00:52:04.420 old for a Pope.

00:52:05.540 They're old in all contexts.

00:52:08.760 They would be old for a nursing home.

00:52:12.560 There are people in Congress right now

00:52:13.860 that are so old that if you saw them

00:52:15.540 in a nursing home, they would stand

00:52:18.080 out for how old they are.

00:52:20.480 If you went to a nursing home to visit

00:52:22.280 your grandmother and you saw Chuck

00:52:23.660 Grassley, you would go, wow, that guy's

00:52:24.960 old.

00:52:25.720 You'd look around at all the people in

00:52:28.660 nursing home and you, and he would

00:52:30.020 stand out.

00:52:30.520 You go like, that guy's really old.

00:52:31.920 That's, that's an old guy in this

00:52:33.540 nursing home.

00:52:36.100 And he's in the Senate.

00:52:39.540 Well, I, there's no reason to it.

00:52:41.820 Like there's no good argument for

00:52:43.220 allowing this.

00:52:44.440 No one has ever made it.

00:52:46.260 No one's ever been able to explain

00:52:47.960 why it's important that we allow

00:52:51.280 people who are decrepit, like at a, at a,

00:52:57.400 at a decrepit and senile stage in the

00:53:01.420 aging process, why, why it should still

00:53:04.060 be okay for them to, you know, be

00:53:06.820 representing us in public office.

00:53:10.320 No one's ever been able to explain

00:53:11.520 that.

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00:54:05.260 Finally, I mentioned yesterday Ben

00:54:06.800 Affleck and Matt Damon on Joe Rogan.

00:54:09.760 I thought it was a good episode.

00:54:11.020 I listened to the whole thing, which I

00:54:12.380 rarely do with any podcast.

00:54:13.580 And they were actually there to promote

00:54:14.580 their new movie called The Rip, which

00:54:17.180 I watched with my wife last weekend.

00:54:20.900 And it was pretty good.

00:54:22.040 It was like a solid little action flick.

00:54:23.780 So good first act, a good second act.

00:54:27.840 The movie suffers, though, in the same

00:54:29.360 way that movies of this type often

00:54:31.820 suffer, where the tension ratchets up,

00:54:34.420 you know, through the first act and the

00:54:35.800 second act.

00:54:36.900 And then it has to lead somewhere.

00:54:40.380 And in an action movie, it almost always

00:54:42.080 leads to like a big shootout or a car

00:54:44.360 chase.

00:54:46.800 And that relieves the tension sort of by

00:54:50.060 definition.

00:54:50.500 The most tense part of a standoff, which

00:54:54.540 means the most interesting part to watch,

00:54:56.480 is when people are not shooting.

00:54:58.780 It's the threat of shooting that makes it

00:55:00.860 really tense and interesting.

00:55:02.220 The moment they start shooting, the

00:55:04.360 tension releases and it becomes a little

00:55:06.200 less absorbing and a little less

00:55:07.500 interesting.

00:55:08.840 And so anyway, it's pretty good, though.

00:55:12.120 But during the conversation, Affleck

00:55:13.900 started talking about AI in the film

00:55:15.700 industry.

00:55:16.280 You know, this is an issue that I care

00:55:17.480 about AI in general and in particular,

00:55:20.940 AI in the arts.

00:55:23.420 We talk about it a lot on the show.

00:55:25.100 And so there's been some discussion about

00:55:26.460 this clip online and Affleck's take on it.

00:55:30.840 Let's listen.

00:55:33.060 What I see is, for example, if you try to

00:55:35.140 get ChatGPT or Claude or Gemini to write

00:55:38.660 you something, it's really.

00:55:40.140 And it's because by its nature, it goes

00:55:43.760 to the mean, to the average.

00:55:45.600 And it's and it's not reliable.

00:55:47.880 And it's I mean, I just can't stand to see

00:55:50.220 what it writes.

00:55:51.020 Now, it's a useful tool if you're a writer

00:55:52.820 and you're going, oh, what's the thing?

00:55:55.020 I'm trying to set something up where

00:55:56.360 somebody sends someone a letter, but it's

00:55:58.200 delayed two days and gets and it can give

00:56:00.040 you some examples of that.

00:56:01.500 I actually don't think it's very likely

00:56:03.580 that it can it's going to be able to write

00:56:05.860 anything meaningful or in particular that

00:56:08.960 it's going to be making movies like from

00:56:11.060 whole cloth, like Tilly Norwood, like that's

00:56:12.500 I don't think that's going to happen.

00:56:14.360 I think it's I think it actually turns out

00:56:16.420 the technology is not progressing in

00:56:18.100 exactly the same way they sort of presented

00:56:20.580 it. And really what it is, it's going to be

00:56:22.520 a tool just like sort of visual effects.

00:56:25.280 And yeah, it needs to have language around it.

00:56:26.980 You need to protect your name and likeness.

00:56:28.640 You can do that. You can watermark it.

00:56:30.600 You're those laws already exist.

00:56:31.940 You can't I can't sell your picture for money.

00:56:34.280 I can't. You can sue me, period.

00:56:35.860 It kind of feels to me like the things

00:56:37.940 I'm talking about earlier where there's a

00:56:39.060 lot more fear because we have the sense

00:56:41.360 this existential dread is going to wipe

00:56:43.260 everything out. Right.

00:56:44.300 But that actually runs counter in my view

00:56:46.460 to what history seems to show, which

00:56:48.980 is a adoption is slow.

00:56:50.760 It's incremental.

00:56:52.800 I think a lot of that rhetoric comes

00:56:55.080 from people who are trying to justify

00:56:56.920 valuations around companies.

00:56:59.280 They go, we're going to change everything.

00:57:00.900 In two years, there's going to be no more

00:57:01.940 work. The reason they're saying that is

00:57:03.880 because they need to ascribe a valuation

00:57:06.340 for investment that can warrant the capex

00:57:08.980 spend they're going to make on these data

00:57:10.320 centers with the argument that like, oh, you

00:57:12.820 know, as soon as we do the next model, it's

00:57:14.740 going to scale up three times as good, except

00:57:17.300 that actually chat GPT-5, about 25 percent

00:57:20.960 better than chat GPT-4 and costs about four

00:57:24.140 times as much in the way of electricity and data.

00:57:26.560 So those nice things that it's like plateauing.

00:57:29.340 The early AI, the line went up very steeply

00:57:33.120 and it's now sort of leveling off.

00:57:37.140 So I agree with most everything he says there.

00:57:40.520 There are two points I want to add.

00:57:42.700 And so you know that I'm very, very opposed

00:57:45.760 to the idea of AI art, quote unquote art.

00:57:49.660 And I'm very opposed to AI in many other contexts,

00:57:52.160 not all, but in many other contexts.

00:57:53.740 I think the chance that AI basically destroys

00:57:56.680 human society is much higher than the chance

00:58:01.880 that it proves to be any kind of net positive

00:58:04.760 for humanity.

00:58:07.080 I think both of those results are possible,

00:58:13.800 but I think the result of it causing civilization

00:58:19.360 level destruction, I think that that is much

00:58:22.900 greater, but I'll add this.

00:58:24.620 First, I differ with Affleck on one thing.

00:58:26.340 He says that in the context of art, writing,

00:58:29.400 filmmaking, it can be a useful tool,

00:58:31.380 but I don't think it's a tool at all artistically.

00:58:34.580 It can be a tool in other ways,

00:58:36.420 but in the creation of art, it is not a tool.

00:58:43.460 Because, and a lot of people want,

00:58:45.060 I was arguing about this again today on X,

00:58:47.100 and a lot of people want to believe that it's a tool

00:58:52.160 because they use it, and they might use it

00:58:54.740 for some artistic things, for some creative things,

00:58:57.200 and they want to believe that they are the artist

00:59:01.660 using a tool, but that is not the case.

00:59:05.460 Because AI does the task for you.

00:59:10.240 Tools are objects that you use to accomplish a task

00:59:17.480 that you are doing.

00:59:19.780 AI just does the task.

00:59:22.700 And this is easy to understand if you think

00:59:25.480 in terms of actual tools.

00:59:27.140 So if there was a hammer where you could press a button

00:59:31.580 and it would just hammer all the nails for you,

00:59:34.720 not even like it makes it easier to hammer the nails,

00:59:36.880 but you can sit on the couch and drink a beer

00:59:39.200 and this thing will hover, you know,

00:59:42.040 and around and just nail all the stuff for you.

00:59:47.200 Well, in that case, it would be inaccurate to say

00:59:51.260 that you used the tool to hammer the nails.

00:59:54.660 You didn't do anything.

00:59:55.820 You did not hammer the nails.

00:59:57.700 The thing did all of that.

00:59:59.960 You didn't even have to be there.

01:00:02.820 You could have left the room.

01:00:04.100 You could have gone to lunch and come back

01:00:05.980 and all the stuff would be nailed.

01:00:08.820 It's very convenient.

01:00:10.100 I can see the appeal of something like that,

01:00:13.760 but you can't have your cake and eat it too here.

01:00:16.700 You can't use this thing to do the task for you

01:00:20.860 and then also want to take credit for it

01:00:23.080 and say, oh yeah, that's a good bit of construction

01:00:27.980 that I just performed.

01:00:28.720 You didn't do it.

01:00:29.780 You did not do it.

01:00:31.700 The thing did the whole thing.

01:00:33.140 On the other hand, if you use like an actual hammer,

01:00:36.540 a regular hammer, yes, that is you using this thing

01:00:42.000 to accomplish the goal, but it could not happen without you, right?

01:00:47.580 And that's what AI does creatively,

01:00:50.520 which is why I hate it so much in any kind of creative context.

01:00:55.880 And even if you aren't asking AI to generate,

01:01:00.320 say, a whole screenplay for you or make a whole movie or whatever,

01:01:05.240 even if you're just asking it to help with some part of the writing process,

01:01:09.320 whatever that part is, it's doing it for you.

01:01:12.940 It is not a tool assisting.

01:01:14.900 It's just doing it.

01:01:16.820 It is a cheat.

01:01:18.040 It's a shortcut.

01:01:18.740 And to whatever extent you use it in the creation of art

01:01:22.040 is the exact extent to which the final product is not fully art.

01:01:30.880 So, you know, in the world of filmmaking,

01:01:38.280 say, think about like special effects, computer graphics, whatever.

01:01:41.160 Well, without AI, you know, you want to have Godzilla

01:01:47.380 knock over the building in your movie.

01:01:49.580 Well, it's all going to be CGI.

01:01:51.740 I mean, back in the day, they used to use some practical effects for this,

01:01:54.160 but those days are long past.

01:01:56.700 And so now it's going to obviously be CGI.

01:02:01.340 But that requires humans.

01:02:03.360 It requires actual human beings to use computers as a tool

01:02:06.840 to compose those images.

01:02:08.680 And it requires talent.

01:02:11.040 And some humans are better at it than others,

01:02:12.900 which is why some movies look terrible,

01:02:15.800 have terrible CGI and terrible special effects.

01:02:18.720 And other movies have much better

01:02:20.840 because they have better talent behind it.

01:02:23.720 It's an art form.

01:02:25.660 Well, AI takes the building,

01:02:27.900 takes the composing part out of it entirely.

01:02:31.700 Now you just type in,

01:02:33.660 like there's a big difference between using a computer to create,

01:02:37.700 right?

01:02:37.960 You are creating the image of Godzilla knocking the building over.

01:02:41.200 That's one thing.

01:02:42.320 It's an entirely different thing to type into a prompt,

01:02:46.320 generate an image of Godzilla knocking over a building,

01:02:49.700 and then just hit enter.

01:02:52.520 Okay?

01:02:52.700 That's not an artist using a tool.

01:02:55.280 At best, in that case, you're not an artist.

01:02:57.980 You are not an artist.

01:02:58.980 At best, you are a manager delegating a task.

01:03:05.580 And now art is not art.

01:03:07.460 It is management.

01:03:08.520 It is delegation.

01:03:11.400 And I cannot think of a worse fate for art than that.

01:03:15.680 For art to become management.

01:03:20.140 For art to become this, like, bureaucratic delegation of tasks.

01:03:26.900 That is the worst fate imaginable.

01:03:28.900 I would rather that art just disappear entirely.

01:03:32.520 I would rather it be banned by some kind of fascist dictator government.

01:03:36.880 Takes over the world and bans you from ever making any more art.

01:03:41.560 All music, everything is banned.

01:03:43.320 I would prefer that over all art just becomes managers

01:03:49.140 who are dictating prompts to inhuman algorithms.

01:03:56.980 It's like if I commission a painting, right?

01:03:59.280 I am not the artist.

01:04:01.840 If I tell a painter to paint me a picture of a, whatever, a lighthouse,

01:04:07.700 and they paint the picture, and it's beautiful,

01:04:11.020 and I hang it on my wall, and somebody comes to my house,

01:04:13.780 and they see it hanging there in the living room above the fireplace,

01:04:16.660 and they say, wow, great painting.

01:04:19.820 Who painted that?

01:04:21.140 It would be a lie for me to say, well, I did.

01:04:24.180 Oh, that's right.

01:04:25.300 Thank you very much.

01:04:26.180 That's my, actually, I did that.

01:04:28.000 That's my painting.

01:04:29.520 I'm the artist.

01:04:31.640 Right?

01:04:32.020 If they looked at the painting and said, oh, wow, that's amazing.

01:04:34.440 Who's the artist?

01:04:35.960 You would be a godforsaken liar if you said, well, it's me.

01:04:40.420 Because you didn't paint it.

01:04:42.140 You delegated the task to someone.

01:04:44.180 You told them.

01:04:44.820 Even if you kind of described, well, give me a lighthouse that,

01:04:48.560 on a misty morning, and the light is shining, and the waves are crashing,

01:04:54.240 that doesn't make you the artist.

01:04:56.300 That's not art.

01:04:57.180 That's just you saying what you want.

01:04:59.260 The art is in the creating part of it.

01:05:01.340 It's not in the thinking of what you want.

01:05:04.640 Just thinking of what you want.

01:05:06.340 I mean, that's like saying, if you can, I mean, we think of a thousand examples.

01:05:10.200 If I go to a chef and say, here's the meal that I'd really like.

01:05:15.460 You know, I'm really hankering for this.

01:05:18.940 I really want a delicious, you know, steakhouse-quality steak, medium rare.

01:05:25.760 I want some asparagus on the side.

01:05:27.320 I'd like to have some mashed potatoes.

01:05:28.840 You know, I am not cooking the meal.

01:05:32.460 The chef is doing all of it.

01:05:33.880 And, again, if somebody comes in, they take a bite of the steak, and they say, wow, who made this?

01:05:39.400 I would be a liar to say, I made it.

01:05:43.960 And it's no good to say, yeah, but I gave the prompt.

01:05:46.440 I gave the prompt for the steak.

01:05:48.560 I described what kind of steak I would like.

01:05:52.140 Anyone can do that.

01:05:53.200 A five-year-old can do that.

01:05:55.880 Just imagining what you want is not the hard part, right, of this.

01:06:02.760 Of this.

01:06:03.580 It's the actual creating part.

01:06:05.440 I mean, I can imagine in my head, I can easily imagine a really beautiful statue.

01:06:10.280 I could come up with that in my head.

01:06:11.220 Anybody could.

01:06:12.660 In my head, I can generate, in my mind, the most amazing sculpture anyone has ever seen.

01:06:19.320 I can think of a sculpture that, if it existed in the real world, would be the most amazing sculpture of all time.

01:06:24.900 That doesn't make me an artist.

01:06:27.200 The artist is the one who would actually do it, who can actually create it.

01:06:32.760 And, yes, the same thing goes for movies.

01:06:36.580 This is why, like, you know, you get into making movies a little bit, and you talk to people.

01:06:45.520 Everybody has an idea for a movie.

01:06:47.540 Everyone has ideas.

01:06:49.940 I got to tell you my idea.

01:06:51.420 Here's a great idea.

01:06:52.300 And the thing is, you know, a lot of times the ideas are terrible, but sometimes you hear the idea and you're like, that's a decent idea.

01:06:58.880 That'd be a good movie.

01:07:00.320 That doesn't make you a filmmaker.

01:07:02.360 It doesn't make you an artist.

01:07:04.760 Can you go do it?

01:07:06.320 Can you actually write that movie?

01:07:08.200 Can you be involved in a reel?

01:07:10.320 Can you act in it?

01:07:11.220 Like, can you actually be involved in the creation of the thing?

01:07:16.520 And the other point is where Affleck says that, you know, you're never going to be able to just prompt the AI to generate a whole movie out of whole cloth.

01:07:27.800 Well, I think he's wrong.

01:07:31.140 I mean, AI can do that now, really.

01:07:33.580 AI could generate a whole movie right now.

01:07:35.720 It's not a matter of AI developing the ability to perform that task.

01:07:42.260 It has the ability right now, but the difference is that right now the audience would not accept it.

01:07:49.820 So he's right in a sense.

01:07:51.620 There is no totally AI-generated movie that can be made right now that anyone or any sizable portion of people would want to watch.

01:08:01.860 The question, then, for the future is not whether AI will be able to make a movie.

01:08:08.220 It's not whether we'll be in a spot one day where you could just type into a prompt, make me a movie about this.

01:08:13.320 Here's three sentences of the plot.

01:08:14.900 Make the movie.

01:08:15.760 I think we're already kind of there.

01:08:18.420 Or we're at least very close to it.

01:08:20.900 And, I mean, you can already do a shorter version of that.

01:08:23.840 You can have AI make, like, a three-minute video.

01:08:25.620 If it could do three minutes, it could do 90 minutes.

01:08:27.580 There's no reason why it can't.

01:08:30.020 So I think we're already there.

01:08:31.420 We're very close to being there.

01:08:33.440 That's not the question.

01:08:35.200 The question is whether audiences will eventually come to accept it.

01:08:39.900 In other words, will audiences become so numb and so soulless and have such little respect for themselves that they will settle for something like that?

01:08:52.680 Will audiences eventually say, yeah, you know what?

01:08:55.860 I'll sit down and watch a film that was made by no one and generated by an algorithm with no heart or soul or purpose or meaning at all?

01:09:09.300 Well, that's going to be the question.

01:09:15.400 Because that is, as I've said so many times, you know, that is art.

01:09:19.420 Not to be, I was talking about this yesterday and someone said to me, you know, well, that's a romantic view of art.

01:09:26.280 You have a really romantic view of art.

01:09:28.040 Well, of course I do.

01:09:28.760 It's art.

01:09:29.180 If you don't have a romantic view of art, then you don't understand art.

01:09:33.500 That's what art is.

01:09:35.140 What other view of it would you have?

01:09:40.880 But that's what art is, an expression of the human heart.

01:09:44.500 And it's a language spoken and that can only be spoken and only be understood by beings with rational souls.

01:09:55.540 That's what makes it art.

01:09:57.140 And that's what separates it from mere distraction or mere spectacle or even just mere entertainment.

01:10:05.720 Art can be entertainment, but it's not just entertainment.

01:10:10.360 And that's what separates it.

01:10:14.040 So, and that will always be the case, which is why AI will never be able to create art.

01:10:17.240 It will never happen.

01:10:17.940 It cannot happen by definition.

01:10:20.860 For the same reason that AI will never be able to love you.

01:10:24.040 I don't care how advanced it gets.

01:10:26.240 It may get so advanced that it can fool you, if you're a really gullible person, into thinking that it loves you.

01:10:35.460 But it will never be able to actually love.

01:10:38.460 Because it lacks the essential components of love, which is the human soul consciousness.

01:10:47.740 And the question there, too, is not, well, will AI be at a point where it can love a person and you can get married to AI?

01:10:57.320 The answer is no.

01:10:59.240 Will people ever become so degraded that they will settle for, like, marrying a computer?

01:11:07.280 Or will people ever become so degraded that they will settle for watching a piece of art that is not art because it was generated by an algorithm?

01:11:17.060 That's the question.

01:11:17.560 And I think, I hope the answer is no, but all indications are that the answer is yes.

01:11:23.500 That's what scares me.

01:11:25.120 And that is what will do it for the show today.

01:11:28.100 Thanks for watching.

01:11:28.640 Thanks for listening.

01:11:29.220 Talk to you tomorrow.

01:11:30.940 Great day.

01:11:31.500 Godspeed.

01:11:39.800 What was it like, Merlin, to be alone with God?

01:11:47.560 Is that who you think I was alone with?

01:11:55.380 Merlin, I knew your father.

01:11:57.780 I am yet convinced that he was not of this world.

01:12:02.900 All men know of the great Taliesin.

01:12:06.260 You are my father.

01:12:07.440 That the gods should war for my soul.

01:12:10.620 Princess Garrus, savior of our people.

01:12:13.560 I know what the bull god offered you.

01:12:18.720 I was offered the same.

01:12:20.640 And?

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01:12:32.940 We're given another.

01:12:33.680 I learned of Yazoo the Christ.

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01:12:40.940 He's waiting on a miracle.

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01:12:44.500 Trust in Yazoo.

01:12:45.840 He is the only hope for men like us.

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01:12:52.920 Great darkness.

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01:12:56.760 What matters to you now, mistress of lies?

01:13:00.560 You.

01:13:02.040 Nephew.

01:13:02.520 The sword of the high king.

01:13:09.360 How many lives must be lost before you accept the power you were born to wield?

01:13:17.100 Circling to the promises of a god who has abandoned you.

01:13:20.340 I cannot take up that sword again.

01:13:23.240 You know what you must do.

01:13:26.620 Great light, forgive me.

01:13:32.520 The time has come to be reborn.

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01:13:40.840 The time has come to beorsun.

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01:13:44.380 The time has come to be overcome.

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01:13:47.380 The time has come to be forbidden.

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The Matt Walsh Show - January 21, 2026

Ep. 1721 - Democrats Are Doubling Down On Their Anti-White Agenda. Here's The Proof.

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