Ep. 1737 - Catching Up With Brett Cooper
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Summary
On today's episode, the brother and sister duo of the sit down with Brad and Matt Cooper, owners of the family farm, to talk about what it's like raising pigs, chickens, ducks, geese, and goats on the farm.
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I just watched one of my escaped pigs run by the window,
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actually before we logged on, so it's always exciting.
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I do, Alex does, but this particular pig, her name is Patsy.
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but now I have like a fondness in my heart for her.
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We've processed three already, and then we bred more.
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So if you want any pork, we're just going to be giving it to family and friends,
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We have, oh gosh, I've kind of like lost track of the cows.
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I think we have like 15 cows and two more that are going to be born in the next couple of months,
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and then her two parents that we have on the farm,
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and then we have chickens, ducks, and geese, and then two mules.
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I mean, this is not what we're supposed to be talking about, but why do you have geese?
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They're loud, they smell, they shit on everything.
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They're fun, and they actually do serve a purpose,
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because they are great at defending the chickens and the ducks.
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Obviously, they're not going to fight off coyotes,
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is not what I'm trying to say, but for predators that are overhead and as a deterrent,
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because they are so loud, they're great at protecting the rest of the flock.
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Also, they're kind of, I know that this is not like a,
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but there is a lot of sexual things that happen in like the bird world,
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Like in the animal kingdom, there's just a lot of dominance.
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And so chickens, like the rooster will be on top of a chicken,
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ducks will be like fighting over one of these like female ducks,
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and the geese have none of it. They are like anti all of it.
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They stick their heads down, they put their necks out,
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and they just squawk at all of them. They break up every single fight.
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and then they're also great like predator deterrent.
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So that's why we have them, and they're just funny to look at.
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So they're like the grumpy Puritans of the bird kingdom.
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You actually might identify with an African goose.
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Maybe I do. I have been pretty upset at you for a while for being such a,
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as you know, for being such a bad influence on my wife,
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and encouraging her and her delusions of being a farmer,
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her delusions of agriculture, as I have come to call it.
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So I was hoping you would tell me that the farm is a total disaster.
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And then I could triumphantly show that to my wife, but you sound,
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unfortunately you sound happy, which is not what I wanted to hear.
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Do you still have, do you still have your goats?
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I haven't checked in on her lately on the goats.
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Um, yeah, we have two, we have two goats, so that's it.
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We don't, they don't do anything. They don't do anything.
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They're just, they're just there. They, they, they're not even though they're not.
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They look Satan, like goats are a symbol of Satanism. Okay.
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They have these weird slit eyes that look at the, with the, with the pupils and they don't do anything.
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So, you know, I was, I was out yesterday, the, the water is freezing where the goats are.
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And so I got to go out and like break my wife has, well, can you go break up the ice in the, in the water thing so that, uh, so they can get to the water.
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It's like, okay, so I'm out there, it's cold, it's dark, it's snowing.
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Why am I doing this? What are you, what are you doing for me?
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It was my question to the goats and, uh, of course they couldn't answer.
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So typical, uh, what, so I wanted to ask you before we, before we, you know, you know, we're talking to talk about the pen dragon and, and all that.
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But you are in the middle, since we're talking this week, you're, I do have to ask, you're kind of in the middle of a major controversy.
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And, uh, the, the controversy, if you don't mind, because the controversy is that you, from what I understand is that you said hi to someone.
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Uh, and that was, that was, that was rather scandalous.
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So I was invited to a fashion show for near fashion week from a designer called, um, her name is Elena Velez.
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She's very much a disruptor in the fashion industry.
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And I learned that she had been a fan of the show and invited me to come see her New York fashion week show.
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And it was just like a very, very different world than I'm used to being in.
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And I went with Brittany Hugo Boom from Evie magazine.
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Um, and so we were there and after I had been invited, I learned that clavicular, the looks maxer that he was going to be walking in the show.
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And I was like, okay, this is going to be a great experience and it'll be funny to see him in person.
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And obviously I had made an episode about him before he really even like took off in the X space.
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I would say with like all of our people knowing who he was, I made a video being like, this guy is insane.
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This whole looks maxing craze is being taken to a completely unhealthy level.
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He, he does meth so that he can get through fasts.
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It's, I don't remember what it's called, but where he like hops around from like books to books on, on the floor to like make himself seem taller if he's with a woman.
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Like it's just all of this insane stuff to try to make himself be super attractive.
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And then I had talked about him hanging out with like Sneeko and Fuentes and all of these guys.
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And so I got lumped into this conversation, but I had been pretty harsh.
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And so when he was there after the show, um, I was like, you know, I should probably go say hi to him.
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I wasn't watching his stream, but I knew that he knew that I was going to be there.
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I was like, I should probably just go say hi and be polite.
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Cause I just like ripped him to shreds two weeks ago on my show.
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And I was with Brittany and then recognized a friend of mine, Liv Schmidt, who I had talked about on comment section a while back.
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And who I helped out when she had been canceled a few years ago off of TikTok.
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And the internet lost their mind because Alex was not at the fashion show with me.
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They thought that it was like disgusting that I would say hi to this individual and that I smiled.
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They like zoomed in on my face as I shook his hand and then took three steps back and was talking to my friend.
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So, yeah, I'm a terrible person apparently because I said hi to him.
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Um, and I had a lot of people saying like, why wasn't your husband there?
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Like, do you, do you think my husband would want to be at a fashion show?
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Um, my public assistant and I were laughing and he was like, Brett, like husbands only get invited to fashion shows if they're gay rappers.
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Anyway, so that was, that was the scandal and people have been talking about it for days now.
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And that was the, that was the end of your interaction with this guy.
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Unfortunately for the internet, I'm sure that they want more controversy, but no, that was literally it.
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Well, one way that I avoid these kinds of things is I just don't say hi to anyone ever.
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So that's, that's one, you know, that's, that's the advantage of being aggressively antisocial is that you never, you never find yourself in these situations.
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I do want to ask you about this because some of these concepts are just now coming across my, like making it into my radar.
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Things like looks maxing, which I, in the last couple of weeks, I've been seeing this.
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I never saw this term anywhere and now it's all over the place.
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So that's, that's just, you want to look good and like you want to.
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That doesn't sound like a, a lot of this stuff is like, it doesn't sound like a new concept to me.
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I guess it's a newfangled concept because we've been living in this society for years now.
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Where everybody's trying to make themselves look as like hideous and ugly as possible.
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It grew out of this idea that men wanted to make themselves look attractive and feel good about their attractiveness.
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And they believe that they would move up in the social ranks with women and friends if they looked more attractive, which is true in our society.
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They are like the, the origination of it is, is healthy.
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They were trying to take pride in how they dress.
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And then it just blew out of proportion to now you have this kid clavicular kid.
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He's like 20 years old where he's selling courses and streaming and inspiring all of these young men to do drugs.
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And to, um, to bone smash is like a big thing that he does where you take a hammer to your jaw to, it's like creating these micro fractures in your bones that allows them to kind of be reshaped and grow back stronger.
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So you have a better jawline, like just totally took it to a new level.
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And, but honestly, this kid clavicular, he's now even bigger than just looks maxing.
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He's kind of like this weird character artist in a way.
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Like I keep saying his life is literally a reality show.
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Like when I went and said hi to him, I inadvertently, like, I mean, I knew that I was like stepping into his reality show orbit.
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Like he does these streams for like eight hours a day.
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So it's less about the looks maxing now and more about just him as this like crazy internet character, but that's where it started.
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So yeah, looks maxing is just the crazy idea of taking pride in how you look and as a man wanting to look good.
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Yeah, it's interesting because there's this whole world of, uh, of streamers who, as far as I can tell, don't, don't really do anything.
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They, they don't have any interesting opinions.
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And yet, um, they have millions of fans and yet no, and yet nobody outside of those fans, like, yeah, millions of fans, but no one outside of, of, of,
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that group knows who they are or would recognize them if they bumped into them in the street.
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And so it's kind of, to me, it's this thing I've been thinking a lot about, about good.
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Oh, no, I was going to, that's changed a little bit with clavicular.
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Cause he's kind of now broken outside of that mold.
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Like, usually I would agree with the streamers.
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Like what happens on Twitch and kick, like that's not a world that I'm really part of.
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They'll stream for like eight hours a day and they're just walking around and they have like a posse of crew filming them just doing random things.
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And I guess you could argue that that's sort of what happens on TikTok when girls are just filming, like, here's my day from 6 a.m. to 9 a.m.
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And they made a, like a smoothie and went to Pilates and it's like, why would anybody watch that?
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But like, Matt, I was at dinner with, um, Alex and a bunch of our friends prior to going to New York.
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And like these 35 year old guys were like, have you heard of clavicular?
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Like it's now made its way out of this kind of niche internet world.
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So it's a bit wild, but yeah, usually it's just a very concentrated audience for sure.
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And why is this one particular guy made it outside of that bubble?
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I think he just has a, um, his team is really good.
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I would say like they're blasting his clips everywhere and it's this mix of, it's different enough, I think, from the rest of the streamer content.
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And I think the language has also taken off again, like looks maxing and mogging.
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And now people are, you know, making their own words based off of that.
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I'm, you know, I don't even know that people are just doing their own iterations of it.
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And so I think that all, you know, points back to him and has really blown this up even more.
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So it's just taken on a life of its own, which is great.
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Like I posted when I was at doing the Superbowl, I was like, I'm yummy maxing.
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And everybody was in the comments making jokes about that.
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So it's just all, again, the language of itself has taken off or yeah.
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Taking a world of its own, taking on a world of its own.
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This is something I've been talking about a lot is kind of the death of the monoculture.
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And it used to be, we were, you know, we were, we, we all lived in one culture together
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and we share this kind of cultural touchstones and a language.
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And yeah, you had slang, younger people had their own slang, but, but generally we all had
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And now it's this fragmented, fractured atomized culture where everyone's kind of living in
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And, uh, and it, to me, a lot of these streamers seem to be a good example of that.
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A lot of the language that's totally impenetrable and inaccessible for anyone, unless you're like
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in a specific age group and you watch these people.
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What, what do you, what do you, what do you think about that?
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And it's, it's also very evident on TikTok where there are like sub genres on TikTok,
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like your algorithm looks nothing like somebody else's algorithm and you're being, you know,
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fed this type of content and there will be a community within that.
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And so even on one platform, you'll have people having completely different experiences and
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speaking in a totally different language, essentially using different phrases.
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Like I'll look at, you know, my friend's feed and it's completely different from mine.
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Maybe there'll be like some cross over there with people that we follow, but I think due
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to algorithms feeding us what we naturally start interacting with or talking about, it
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Um, this reminded me, have you, this is a great example of this.
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So there's this whole trend right now where people are adopting aspects.
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They're adopting aspects of Chinese culture, but rather than just saying, oh, I'm enjoying
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Like I'm going to a Chinese restaurant and having, you know, lo mein, whatever it is.
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They're going on TikTok and they're saying like, I was just diagnosed as Chinese.
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Like you're not just adopting parts of Chinese culture.
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And it's so ironic because we just got, you know, we spent 2020 where people were screaming
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about cultural appropriation and you can't have braids in your hair because then you
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And now on social media through this little like subgenre, people are saying, I was just
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I'm like at a Chinese moment in my life right now.
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And people are, you know, wearing Chinese outfits.
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They are posting TikToks using Chinese sounds and songs.
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They are doing like funny impressions where it'll be like girls and they're wearing socks
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and they have little like Chinese man slides and they're walking around.
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And it's just this whole little bubble on TikTok.
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And I have one other friend that also found herself on this weird side of TikTok and nobody
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else knows what we're talking about, but it's huge.
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These videos have hundreds of thousands of likes and comments.
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And so it's not like a super niche thing, but in the grand scheme of the internet, it
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Do they go all, do they go all the way to do the eyes too?
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I should try it and make a video and see if that's like taking it a step too far.
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I mean, like when I, there's also a kind of nihilism that I see in a lot of these people
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and a lot of this kind of the internet culture and the streamers and everything where it seems
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like the ascendant philosophy, especially in younger generations, is less leftism and more
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a kind of like nihilism where nothing matters, nothing really means anything, nothing is sacred,
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I think that there is less political allegiance, I would say, especially with my generation with
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Zoomers, where you see a lot of young people who I think pollsters would say, oh, these are,
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you know, they're becoming really conservative, they're leaving the left, but I don't really
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I see it more so as Gen Z just kind of saying to hell with the labels and, you know, woke
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ism, a lot of them think, you know, are cringe.
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They don't want to have controlled speech, but they probably wouldn't say that they're
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They're kind of living in this middle, you know, middle ground.
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And then I do think a lot of people who would normally be on the left are adopting that nihilism
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where it's less about politics and it's just genuinely like, we don't care, nothing
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matters, the world is burning, the economy is terrible, whatever it may be.
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So we're just going to like make our TikToks and try to have a good time.
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Are they, are you encouraged or are you encouraged or discouraged by what's next?
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I think, I think your kids will probably be the exception here because a lot of them,
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Like that's the reason why so many teachers are quitting or because of gen alpha.
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Like the, this is the first generation of real iPad kids who have been raised by interactive
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They are, you know, from the age of gentle parenting when millennials were adopting that
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entire philosophy and they're coming into schools and they are totally uncontrollable.
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Um, many of them are violent, like causing teachers to have to quit because they don't
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I think that's the wrong word for it, but it was just a conversation about this a couple
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But these, you know, 12 year old, 12 year old girls were going into support at the makeup
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They were using all of the tester products, throwing things on the ground, stealing.
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The 12 year olds will be going in, trying on adult makeup that like, you know, a 30 year
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Um, they're all over social media doing makeup tutorials.
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And it's all of this insane skincare and they're, you know, adopting all of the very, I would
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Like I'll be making a video and it's, you know, some kind of 12 year old and she's like
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sitting here, like tapping the drink or whatever it is.
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And so they're an incredibly online and disconnected generation for sure.
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Uh, so I, um, a bit concerned, I would say based on what I've seen, and I think the adults
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in the room are also concerned considering that they are quitting and just saying to
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So hopefully we can change course a little bit.
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It's kind of, it's early of course, but have you thought about what your strategy or policy
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is going to be as a parent when it comes to screens?
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I mean, it's, it's, it's pretty, uh, I'm pretty open about the fact that I'm, that
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we, uh, we, we are very, we are very anti-screen in our house.
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I mean, we have a TV and stuff and the kids don't have phones or anything like that.
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Um, these people that were, they got seven-year-old kids running around with iPads with full internet
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Uh, so have you thought about how you're going to, how you're going to handle that?
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I grew up in a house where we also had a TV, but we didn't have cable and it was just purely
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Like I grew up on, I love Lucy and, you know, the Andy Griffith show, things like that.
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So there were no personal devices, which I really loved.
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And in reading, um, the literature about the impacts on technology, what most of the, I would
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say, I think most of the pitfalls come from these handheld interactive devices.
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Like it's less about sitting and watching a movie with your kids, which I know, you know,
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you enjoy or watching the Ravens, whatever it is, that is less detrimental.
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It is the putting an iPad in front of them and letting that piece of equipment parent them.
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And so that's for sure where we are drawing the lines.
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I love the idea of going back to more antiquated technology.
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If you want to call your friends, you don't get to go sit in your room and have your own
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iPhone and talk on FaceTime until all hours of the night.
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You can go sit in the kitchen like I used to do and call your grandparents or call your
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Um, and it's so funny there's now, I don't know if you've noticed, it's very cyclical in
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a way, but they're bringing back that kind of technology.
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And granted, you could still just go online and buy a home phone that you plug into the wall,
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but there are now like old school rotary type phones that are in bright, colorful colors
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that you connect to your, uh, your cell phone plan.
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So it's connected to your iPhone, but it only has these certain phone numbers that your kids
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could call and it can connect to other families if they buy that certain phone.
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So there's now new technology that's coming out that is safer for kids.
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So that gives me hope that I think a lot of people are noticing that this is an issue.
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So they're trying to innovate and make that easy for families.
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Um, I also love the idea, Alex and I have been looking for one on eBay, but getting a
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VHS player and having a collection of, you know, VHS tapes and DVDs and, you know, here
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are the movies and shows that you can watch the old school ones before they were, you know,
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editor edited before they had, you know, politically correct disclaimers at the top of the Disney
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So those are all the things we've been thinking about.
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I like how the new innovations are, uh, rotary phones and maybe we'll, maybe we'll innovate.
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Uh, we'll, we'll go back, we'll, we'll go back to the printing press instead of computers.
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And that'll be the next innovation I wanted to, I wanted to, so, so let's talk about, um,
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so one thing that someone can watch on a screen that is actually worth watching, which is a
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And I have, I actually didn't watch the series until it was released to the general public.
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So I haven't made it to the episode yet that revolves around, uh, your character.
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I have been, and I said this publicly that I was, uh, I was, I didn't know what to expect,
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um, with, with this, with the series, because it's so, it's so ridiculously ambitious to take
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Um, and I've been very pleasantly surprised, uh, by every element of it.
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So what, well, tell us about your character and just kind of like your, how you feel about the,
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Uh, so I play Ghanietta and this upcoming episode that's coming out on Thursday, the 19th, um,
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You've sort of seen me scattered in other episodes, just popping in and out, not really sure what
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Um, so my episode will be coming out on Thursday and I love this episode because it does feel
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kind of like a mini movie in a way and I won't spoil anything, but it gives you a lot of context
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for the rest of the series and for Merlin's character, Tom Sharp.
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And so I play Merlin's wife and that's who Ghanietta is.
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And so their relationship provides a lot of insight into why he is the way he is today and
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And it fills in a lot of the gaps and it's a really, really sweet episode.
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My best friend, Rose Reed, I met her while working on Pendragon, but she actually wrote
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Um, there was a myriad of writers working on the series and they all broke off and they were
00:27:15.060
working on different episodes and this was her baby.
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And so it was very special to be able to work with her on that.
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And it's very cool to see, I was talking about this with Michael, but it's very cool to see
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actors who are, you know, this is like their first big role.
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Like, you know, this entire series is essentially on the back of Tom Sharp.
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And this was his first time doing something like that.
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It has a bit of a different tone than some of the other ones.
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And it also, it was fun because I, um, it does kind of stand alone in a way.
00:27:58.280
So if you are hopping in just to watch this episode, again, it almost feels like a mini,
00:28:06.520
What, and that's true of a lot of the actors in the series, right?
00:28:09.180
Where this was kind of their first big, big thing.
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A lot of, uh, maybe not newcomers, but people who, this is their biggest project they, they
00:28:18.120
And I always want to be careful without, you know, with saying newcomer or saying, oh,
00:28:22.440
it's like their first thing because so many of these actors, you know, were in school for
00:28:26.980
years studying acting and have done plays and episodic roles and, you know, a little thing
00:28:32.180
But this is again, they're like the first thing that is like really meaty that they're
00:28:35.780
getting to sink their teeth into and really take on.
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Um, and so it's just the excitement and the response, even just from within the cast has
00:28:43.420
Like we have a whole group chat and every single week when an episode comes up, they're
00:28:46.380
like, oh my gosh, this is so incredible because most of them haven't seen it either.
00:28:49.820
Um, there was a screening that the team did in London for some of the folks, but a lot of
00:28:54.020
people, they're just watching it as it comes out.
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And that's, what's crazy about filmmaking and Hollywood is that you pour all of this
00:29:01.140
energy, like this love and blood, sweat and tears into this project.
00:29:08.540
Some people were there for six months, but you are totally entrenched in this project
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with, you know, this cast and all these great people.
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And some people, you know, live in similar places.
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So Rose and I, you know, live, you know, a few minutes from each other.
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And some of the cast lives in London, so they get to see each other.
00:29:27.300
But for the most part, you just kind of break off and you go on and you do the rest of your
00:29:30.880
You go back to whatever your day job is, or you move on to another project and you don't
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You don't see it for however long it takes to come out.
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So this has been two years in the making, not just for the production crew, but for the
00:29:41.360
And so it's very cool to remember all the scenes that we did together and to see it all
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This, your, this episode that revolves around you.
00:29:58.400
So that's the reason why I was in Budapest for however long I was.
00:30:03.280
Because with filmmaking, you usually are not shooting in a linear format.
00:30:07.520
So you're not going episode one, episode two, it was scattered all around.
00:30:10.860
So there would be some weeks where I would be filming, you know, basically 10 days in
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And then I would have two weeks off because they were in Italy shooting something else.
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So I think I was there for almost four months, but it was just scattered around depending
00:30:28.820
on how they had laid out the schedule and the location where they were filming at that
00:30:35.820
This is the thing about making, uh, I mean, the things that I've made are smaller scale
00:30:40.200
But one thing I've tried to tell people is that it, when you're, when you're making a
00:30:44.480
movie or show or anything, it's like, it can, there's so many.
00:30:48.120
So it's such a long chain of people who are involved at every level from pre-production
00:30:52.760
or production to post-production that, uh, if there's a failure at any point along that
00:30:59.040
And so, uh, I would imagine making something like this.
00:31:02.720
So you go do your scenes, but it's like, well, now we got to, you know, you don't have any
00:31:09.140
You go into the edit, you have no say over that.
00:31:12.360
So, uh, were you, how did you feel sort of seeing everything finally put together?
00:31:18.920
No, I was, I don't want to say pleasantly surprised.
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Cause I think that diminishes it, but I was really happy because when we were on the ground
00:31:27.840
there and I saw the commitment from the entire crew and the cast, and I was watching what
00:31:33.060
you call the dailies, which is, you know, what they filmed throughout that day.
00:31:37.380
Um, and I would be on set watching on the monitor.
00:31:45.220
Um, I'd read the scripts, but you don't really know how it's all going to come together,
00:31:49.140
especially when you're putting in, you know, VFX.
00:31:51.320
Um, effects and they're going to do color correction and they made Tom's eyes, you know,
00:31:58.480
yellow, but we didn't have that when he was filming cause he wasn't wearing contacts.
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So there's so many different pieces that come together to make it that final product.
00:32:05.040
And so of course there are variables there, but when we were there actually shooting just
00:32:08.440
purely based off of what I could see on the monitor and from my fellow actors, I knew
00:32:13.040
that it was going to be special and I knew that it was going to be good.
00:32:15.600
Like I was not watching this going like, Oh, this is like, what are we doing here?
00:32:18.760
I was like, Oh no, this is something different.
00:32:24.400
There is, you know, it was a huge swing from daily wire, obviously.
00:32:28.340
And I was really, really excited to see, um, that I, that I thought it was going to
00:32:33.880
So when I did finally get to watch some of it, I was also forbidden.
00:32:36.940
Uh, most of the cast didn't get to see it until, um, right before, uh, right before
00:32:42.480
Um, so I think all of us were very, very excited after investing all of that time and the blood,
00:32:53.080
Do you have any other projects lined up or anything?
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I don't have any more projects lined up right now.
00:32:58.020
I keep saying that if it was the right thing, I would, it's not what I want to pursue full
00:33:04.340
Um, obviously there's a reason why I walked away from it, but there's so much that I love
00:33:08.940
about it and I love filmmaking and I love storytelling and I feel really grateful that
00:33:12.520
the show that I do, I get to kind of combine those passions and I get to tell a story, communicate
00:33:16.800
with an audience, um, and make them feel something.
00:33:20.320
That's really why I loved performing and acting was because I got to connect with people and
00:33:24.320
through the art of storytelling, um, hopefully leave them changed and impacted in some way,
00:33:31.000
And so I love that I get to kind of combine all of those passions with what I do now.
00:33:35.120
So if there was another project, I would love to dive in and sink my teeth into that, but
00:33:45.960
Are you hopeful in, uh, that conservatives can actually make a dent in the entertainment
00:33:50.980
industry or does it feel kind of like a fool's errand?
00:33:53.660
Like there's no, there's no hope of actually making a real impact.
00:33:58.960
I think that it has taken years of, you know, people taking these big swings and slogging
00:34:10.920
And I think with a combination of shows like this and the things that Angel Studios is doing
00:34:14.820
and movies like, um, Dennis Quaid's movie Reagan, I think that we are making big strides, not
00:34:21.660
to mention your documentaries, but I mean, in every single aspect of entertainment, I
00:34:27.140
think the conservatives are taking real strides and they're doing so not just within this kind
00:34:34.220
Cause obviously the daily wire is known for politics and the shows and the podcasts, all
00:34:39.100
But even outside of this conservative bubble, just conservative creatives, I think are taking
00:34:45.900
really big strides and our culture has changed enough and people have become emboldened that
00:34:51.240
I think they are finally getting their flowers.
00:34:52.640
Even going back to what we were talking about with New York Fashion Week, the designer whose
00:34:55.400
show I went to, she's very, you know, publicly not in lockstep with the left and the majority
00:35:04.240
And yet she had an incredible show that was totally sold out.
00:35:08.900
You know, people were standing up against the walls, trying to get a peek at what she
00:35:13.000
Taylor Swift wears her designs, Charlie XCX, Ariana Grande, like even with her being this
00:35:18.860
kind of like problematic figure and not shying away from these difficult conversations and
00:35:23.160
moving away from wrong think, people are still celebrating her.
00:35:26.600
And so I'm seeing more and more of that, obviously not just in entertainment, but in all of these
00:35:32.300
So I feel, I feel a lot of help, which is very exciting.
00:35:35.860
And hopefully Pendragon will move that needle a little more.
00:35:38.960
Well, last thing, you know, if you ever start another medieval epic, my, my dream has been
00:35:46.080
to die a heroic and gruesome death in a battle scene.
00:35:51.340
And I said that, I said that when this was being filmed, like just, you can behead me or
00:35:56.180
I think a lot of people would love to see it across the political spectrum.
00:35:59.320
So if you're ever, if you're ever in that spot again, just put a good word in for me,
00:36:08.560
You can like stand around with a cow and we can do like a, we'll get Dallas, who's the
00:36:17.140
We'll just film, we'll film a lot of very imaginative death scenes of me.
00:36:21.800
And I think people will really, really enjoy that.
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