The Matt Walsh Show - April 20, 2026


Ep. 1765 - This Video Is One Of The Worst Things I've Seen In A Long Time


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00:01:17.460 political orthodoxy described as a war on noticing. Steve Saylor wrote a book on the topic called
00:01:23.740 noticing. At every opportunity, leftists will demand that you deny the reality that is directly
00:01:29.100 in front of your eyes. And we see this over and over again, particularly during any debate
00:01:33.420 involving racial and gender politics. You're just not supposed to notice that all the mass
00:01:38.680 shooters were on SSRIs or that the vast majority of violent crime is committed by young black men 0.98
00:01:44.400 and so on and so on. But closely related to the war on noticing is something you might call 0.56
00:01:50.080 the war on showing. Leftists will happily use euphemisms to describe their policy goals, but
00:01:56.460 they'll go to extraordinary lengths to avoid showing you what those policy goals actually
00:02:02.760 entail. So they'll talk about the woman's right to choose or gender affirmation surgery, for
00:02:08.480 example, but under no circumstances would they want voters to see any footage of an abortion or
00:02:14.440 a vaginoplasty or whatever they call it. They understand that if most people actually saw the
00:02:20.460 horrific procedures they're talking about, support for leftist ideology would collapse overnight.
00:02:26.800 Nevertheless, every now and then, despite the best efforts of activists who are committed to
00:02:31.100 keeping you from noticing, reality occasionally slips through. The masses get a glimpse of the
00:02:36.780 utter depravity that every major institution of the left, from the media to academia to big tech
00:02:43.040 censors try so hard to conceal. Now, one of those moments took place over the weekend when
00:02:48.220 millions of Americans saw this video, which was uploaded by a gay 51-year-old Nashville-based
00:02:54.540 country music singer, a songwriter named Shane McAnally. And yes, that's apparently actually
00:03:02.380 his name, Shane McAnally. He's apparently collaborated with singers like Kenny Chesney
00:03:08.660 and Keith Urban, and he's won a few Grammys.
00:03:11.760 Now, in this footage that we'll play in a second,
00:03:14.060 McAnally's self-described quote-unquote husband
00:03:17.340 shows off a five-month-old child
00:03:20.280 whom they acquired through surrogacy.
00:03:22.520 And in particular, McAnally's alleged husband,
00:03:26.120 and I'll use the term here for the sake of simplicity,
00:03:28.060 but the air quotes will always be implied,
00:03:30.700 his husband attempts to get the baby to say,
00:03:34.200 who do you want, dada or pop?
00:03:36.160 To which the child responds, mama.
00:03:38.660 And from behind the camera, McAnally informs the child that mama's not an option.
00:03:44.120 Watch.
00:03:45.100 Hey.
00:03:46.320 Hey.
00:03:47.600 Who do you want, Dada or Pop?
00:03:50.320 No, Mama. 0.99
00:03:52.820 No, Mama.
00:03:54.640 Do you want Dada or Pop? 0.52
00:04:01.780 Who do you want, Dada or Pop?
00:04:05.380 Nope 0.96
00:04:09.540 Do you want Dada? 0.57
00:04:12.180 You want Pop?
00:04:14.460 No way Jose
00:04:16.500 I think
00:04:19.380 Oh 0.99
00:04:20.040 There is no mama 1.00
00:04:22.740 I'm so sorry 0.99
00:04:25.460 You have Dada
00:04:27.140 You have Pop
00:04:28.480 Two choices 0.95
00:04:29.240 No mama 1.00
00:04:30.200 No 1.00
00:04:32.320 no mama 0.99
00:04:38.240 dada or pop
00:04:41.400 no matter how much propaganda people have been force-fed by the corporate press and no matter
00:04:51.880 how much reprogramming they've undergone at a university this kind of video cuts through all of
00:04:58.060 it, which is why it has millions of views. At a primal level, unless you're completely
00:05:03.340 broken as a human, this footage is tragic, enraging, intolerable. Your first reaction
00:05:12.540 is that you want to find that child and rescue him from these psychopaths and return him 0.97
00:05:18.820 to his mother. It's not simply that these two men clearly aren't interested in properly
00:05:23.880 taking care of this child or treating him as a human being instead of a social media prop.
00:05:29.000 The issue is that these two men, as a matter of basic human biology, are incapable of properly
00:05:36.280 taking care of the child. They're not able to give the child what he actually needs,
00:05:42.340 which is a mother and a father. A child needs his mother. This should not be a controversial
00:05:48.180 statement. It's something all human beings have understood for thousands of years up until
00:05:53.760 five seconds ago. Children need their mothers. Anyone who's ever had a child in a healthy home
00:06:03.000 knows children need their mothers. Neither one of these men are his mother and neither one of them 0.99
00:06:12.220 can properly take the place of the mother. That's what makes the moment so profound and so
00:06:18.660 unbearably sad when the baby asks for mama. And some commenters have defended McAnally and his
00:06:26.340 fake husband by saying that the baby is just babbling. In fact, one of them has, I think
00:06:32.340 Shane himself has said this, well, he doesn't know what mama means. Now he's too young to speak
00:06:38.100 using words. And so he's saying, mama, he doesn't actually know what that means. And that's true,
00:06:44.300 but it does not make this moment any less horrifying. In fact, it makes it worse
00:06:49.140 because babies say mama before they even know what the word means because mama is an easy 0.54
00:06:56.060 sound to make for a child. This is how the word mama came to be. It's why, you know, it's why we
00:07:02.720 call our mothers mama, which we usually shorten to mom as we get older. This is where it comes
00:07:07.840 from. And it's why almost every culture on earth uses the word mama or mom or some slight variation.
00:07:15.160 So we are born saying the word mama before we know what it means.
00:07:20.360 And in a normal, healthy situation, the adults in the baby's life, especially his mama, his mother, will respond enthusiastically when he makes that sound.
00:07:31.060 Now, he is just babbling at first, but if his mother is there, which she should be, and he says that word, the mother will respond in a way.
00:07:41.520 And that's how he'll learn to attach the sound that's the easiest for him to make
00:07:47.080 to the most important person in his life, which is his mother.
00:07:50.900 He'll make the sound. His mother will light up and smile.
00:07:54.660 And he'll learn that the sound applies to his mother.
00:07:57.860 This is the natural way of things. It's beautiful.
00:08:01.640 The process works beautifully. It's ingrained in us from birth.
00:08:05.520 It is a beautiful, wonderful thing.
00:08:07.480 except when the child is torn away from his mother at birth and forced into an unnatural,
00:08:15.520 disordered environment. Only then does this beautiful, wonderful, natural process become
00:08:22.420 tragic and sad. I mean, think about it. This is the word that the baby can easily, naturally say.
00:08:28.740 In a healthy situation, that natural, easy noise that he makes is met with affirmation.
00:08:38.900 But in this situation, this natural, easy, sound noise for the child to make is met with a negative reaction.
00:08:48.740 It's met with dismissal. It's met with no.
00:08:54.540 Think about how much that warps. Think about how difficult that is for the child.
00:08:58.740 What effect that has on his young mind.
00:09:04.540 Well, McAnally and his husband, again, air quotes, have made the decision to exploit this,
00:09:12.260 to exploit the tragedy and sadness of the child situation for social media clout.
00:09:16.800 When McAnally posted that video on his Instagram, as you saw there,
00:09:20.500 somebody posted a comment that read, throw it away and start over.
00:09:24.240 and mechanally replied to the comment with laughing emojis he also uploaded this footage
00:09:31.840 which has the caption six week old homophobic baby watch such a happy boy yeah you are
00:09:41.140 yeah because you have a brother yeah and you have a sister yeah and you have two puppies
00:09:52.660 and two dads.
00:09:57.080 Oh.
00:10:02.560 Now, if you're listening to the audio podcast,
00:10:04.500 the baby's face suddenly grimaces
00:10:05.960 when he's informed that he supposedly has two fathers
00:10:08.740 instead of a mother.
00:10:10.400 And this is supposed to be hilarious 0.66
00:10:13.020 because you see the baby is acting 0.84
00:10:15.380 like one of those backwards right-wing bigots 0.59
00:10:17.720 who think that children actually need a mother.
00:10:19.640 So he posts the image of his child on Instagram, not his child, of the child on his Instagram, and uses the child as a punchline, which is just a totally natural, normal, paternalistic thing to do, isn't it?
00:10:38.540 And then when the online backlash began, McAnally insisted that the outrage was overblown, and that he's actually, quote, quite conservative politically.
00:10:48.420 Now, just to be clear about this, if you believe that two men should raise children together, you are not a conservative.
00:10:55.740 You are destroying the most critical fundamental bond that a child can have. 0.77
00:11:00.940 You're permanently altering the trajectory of your child's life for the worse.
00:11:06.080 And it's not even a close call.
00:11:07.980 Anybody with a rudimentary understanding of human nature doesn't need to have this explained to them.
00:11:12.520 Okay, if you don't believe in conserving the fundamental building block of human civilization, which is the family, which is marriage, actually, which is the bedrock of the bedrock, which is the family, then you are not a conservative by any meaningful definition.
00:11:32.460 I mean, we hear a lot about the conservative civil war these days.
00:11:36.840 Conservatives are always fighting over this and that issue.
00:11:39.780 If we're going to have a civil war among conservatives, it should actually be over this, right?
00:11:44.020 The people who want to conserve and protect marriage and the family and human life,
00:11:52.180 especially unborn human life, on one side versus the alleged conservatives who are either opposed or indifferent to that.
00:11:59.700 If there's going to be a dividing line
00:12:03.160 That should be it
00:12:04.440 Because if you're not on my side
00:12:09.660 On that issue
00:12:10.340 Then I don't care what else you think
00:12:11.920 I don't care what you think about anything
00:12:14.380 Taxes, foreign policy
00:12:16.880 I don't care 0.50
00:12:18.300 You don't want to protect and preserve
00:12:20.640 The foundation of human civilization
00:12:22.680 I can't, we're not on the same side
00:12:24.560 Oh but we agree on foreign policy 0.99
00:12:27.600 Who gives a shit? 0.99
00:12:28.560 Really? You think that's more important than this? 1.00
00:12:35.300 And yet, you know, you'll hear it endlessly claimed that science somehow proves that children don't actually need a mother.
00:12:42.680 You know, they'll cite all kinds of studies which supposedly show that children raised in gay households don't suffer any negative developmental consequences.
00:12:52.760 Now, the thing is, a few years ago, a woman named Katie Faust, who founded the organization Them Before Us, looked into these claims, as others have, and she found, unsurprisingly, that these studies are, without exception, unscientific nonsense.
00:13:07.900 Many of them, and we've talked about this in the past on the show, many of them recruit their survey participants directly from websites devoted to gay activism, which immediately invalidates the entire study.
00:13:22.460 and additionally she found that several years after the Obergefell ruling that legalized gay
00:13:28.880 marriage only 0.02 percent of all households in the united states consisted of same-sex couples
00:13:34.040 raising children which is extremely small number of households which makes it very difficult to
00:13:38.920 find a sample size for any kind of usable data set now you run into the same problem with all
00:13:44.100 the the studies purporting to show that gender affirmation surgery quote-unquote benefits
00:13:48.860 children. All of those studies are absolute bunk because of the methodology used to conduct them,
00:13:55.780 just like the studies extolling the virtues of gay parenting. These are almost always not blind 1.00
00:14:01.640 studies. So the participants know what the study is trying to prove, and they are recruited for
00:14:08.800 that purpose. So you're a gay couple. You know you're in a study to find out whether gay parenting
00:14:16.400 is good or not. Huh, are we going to get any usable, honest data out of that? I mean, you're
00:14:24.120 often relying on self-reported data from people who know what the thing, what they're trying to
00:14:28.860 prove. And the sample sizes are so small that no reliable conclusions can be drawn from them
00:14:35.100 anyway. You know, you'll find this with any major society altering change the left is trying to
00:14:41.300 voiced on us. They make the change, right? And then 10 seconds later, they claim to have volumes
00:14:47.880 of long-term scientifically conclusive studies proving that the change is good. But it wouldn't
00:14:55.520 even be possible for them to have that kind of data. If they have the data, it's because they
00:15:00.300 engineered it. They rigged it to achieve the desired outcome. That's inevitably what's required
00:15:05.160 if you want to study to somehow prove that it's a good idea to chemically castrate a child or that 0.70
00:15:09.640 a child is better off being raised by two men rather than his own mother and his own
00:15:14.220 father.
00:15:15.100 These are irrational, illogical conclusions that fly in the face of common sense, biology,
00:15:20.120 and thousands of years of human experience.
00:15:23.840 They are conclusions that you can only arrive at if you've predetermined them from the outset.
00:15:30.480 Now, in reality, the ideal and natural situation is that a child is raised by a mother and
00:15:36.500 a father, obviously. 0.88
00:15:39.640 Two men raising a baby can never be ideal by definition.
00:15:43.080 And that is putting it very, very mildly.
00:15:46.840 Because in many cases, these situations go from, you know, far from ideal to outright horrifying horror shows very quickly.
00:15:56.880 Consider this case out of Georgia. Watch.
00:16:00.220 A Georgia couple is sentenced to 100 years behind bars after adopting two young boys to repeatedly rape.
00:16:07.720 The dads even installed cameras throughout their family home to capture this ongoing sexual abuse.
00:16:13.900 If that wasn't enough, though, they posted the images and videos online
00:16:18.100 so other predators could view these horrifying crimes.
00:16:21.960 The parents in this case are 34-year-old William and 36-year-old Zachary Zulock.
00:16:27.300 They're a married couple out of Walton County, Georgia, which is just east of Atlanta.
00:16:31.960 We're not revealing their son's names to keep the boys' privacy,
00:16:35.080 but we can tell you that right now they're ages 10 and 12
00:16:39.040 and they were adopted by the Zulocs
00:16:41.460 through a Christian special needs agency.
00:16:44.240 Outwardly, the Zuloc family seemed to have it all. 0.99
00:16:47.220 William worked for the government
00:16:48.240 and Zachary had a job in banking.
00:16:50.840 Their home was upscaled shoe
00:16:52.480 in a nice neighborhood of Loganville, Georgia.
00:16:55.600 They posted pics online that were smiling, happy,
00:16:58.900 basically looking like they were the picture-perfect family.
00:17:01.700 They even have a photo wearing shirts that say,
00:17:04.400 love my family with the rainbow flag in support of pride now you notice i mean the whole story is
00:17:13.160 unspeakable you notice the line about how these children were adopted through a christian special
00:17:21.080 needs program and this is a recurring theme sadly um just sort of as an aside it should be mentioned
00:17:28.140 when it comes to the worst most civilization destroying ideas known to man for pretty much
00:17:33.980 every single one of them, you'll find a fake quote-unquote Christian charity funding or 0.58
00:17:39.360 enabling it in some way. Christian charities, not all of them, this is why you need to be careful,
00:17:45.820 but Christian charities resettle more foreign invaders in the United States than anybody else. 0.96
00:17:51.540 They support all the climate change scams and racial justice programs and so on, and now at 0.98
00:17:57.100 least one of them is helping gay men find children to rape and abuse, a crime that even in Georgia 0.98
00:18:01.640 apparently doesn't qualify these two men for the death penalty. So you have to wonder why we even 0.99
00:18:06.560 have a death penalty at this point, if this is not going to qualify. But as heinous as this crime is,
00:18:12.020 it's not exactly uncommon. Here's another recent case from Britain. Quote, a man has appeared in
00:18:17.580 court accused of sexually assaulting and murdering a 13-month-old boy he was seeking to adopt. High
00:18:22.020 school teacher Jamie Varley is also accused of repeated accounts of assault, cruelty, and indecent
00:18:26.900 images. All the charges relate to Preston Davey, who was pronounced dead shortly after he was
00:18:31.620 He was taken to Blackpool Victoria Hospital in July of 2023.
00:18:35.240 Mr. Varley, 36, and his 31-year-old co-accused, John McGowan, were in the process of adopting Preston.
00:18:43.560 Lancashire police were alerted on July 27, 2023 after an unresponsive baby boy was brought into the hospital.
00:18:49.040 Mr. McGowan is accused of allowing the death of a child, sexually assaulting a child, and two counts of child cruelty.
00:18:57.120 Now, what you have to keep in mind here is that simply from a statistical perspective,
00:19:02.100 We have absolutely no way of knowing how often this kind of abuse takes place. 0.88
00:19:07.680 Unless these abusers are dumb enough to brag about what they're doing or manage to murder their child in the process, something along those lines, then the abuse is nearly impossible to detect. 0.95
00:19:18.840 And in many cases, there's not even a way to screen parents who are obviously a threat to their children. 0.99
00:19:23.300 And there was a recent study that shows that gay parents, or rather male same-sex couples, adopt boys about 80% of the time, whereas heterosexual couples adopt boys about 50% of the time. 0.86
00:19:44.020 You wonder why that's the case. 0.56
00:19:45.680 remember the registered sex offender who managed to acquire a child through surrogacy
00:19:52.380 in pennsylvania we've we talked about this it turns out that in pennsylvania most other states
00:19:58.480 it's fine for a tier one sex offender to acquire a child through surrogacy they only care about the
00:20:03.540 background checks for children who are adopted and even then we can assume they're not exactly
00:20:07.240 rigorous about the background checks you think about how deranged this is a child is conceived 0.94
00:20:12.860 through surrogacy, ripped from his mother, dropped in the hands of two gay men with no 0.94
00:20:17.640 family to check in on him, is totally helpless. I mean, disturbing does not begin to describe this. 1.00
00:20:28.640 But it's completely normal in most of the country. Now mention any of these trends out loud and you'll
00:20:34.480 get shouted down or worse. Riley Naimi was just assaulted for mentioning these statistics. Watch.
00:20:40.160 so your guys's son or daughter son awesome and are you guys a couple yeah that's awesome cool
00:20:46.460 so have you ever heard about the statistics coming out that a gay men are statistically
00:20:51.100 much more likely to commit child molestation no you've never heard about that crazy yeah no 0.87
00:20:56.100 yeah don't you think it's weird that you guys have a child but neither of you are a woman
00:21:00.360 no you don't think that's weird no so you had a surrogate
00:21:05.940 You paid a woman $50,000 to be pregnant and build a connection to a baby?
00:21:14.580 Hey, don't take my mic. 0.98
00:21:15.980 I'm actually concerned for your baby's safety.
00:21:19.120 We are asking you to leave.
00:21:20.760 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
00:21:24.080 Get off.
00:21:25.600 Guess what?
00:21:26.600 You guys are together. 1.00
00:21:27.720 You all deserve to be killed for doing really. 1.00
00:21:30.420 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:21:31.340 Boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:21:35.940 Now, when they aren't assaulting you, the normal response to the left at this point is to claim that, in fact, the data supports their position.
00:21:45.660 They'll accuse you of cherry picking one or two bad outcomes.
00:21:48.120 So to be clear, we're not talking about one or two extreme cases here.
00:21:52.120 As a general matter, children raised in same-sex households have much worse life outcomes.
00:21:56.340 This is from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, which you can see there.
00:22:02.560 the green bar is children raised by a man and a woman, while the yellow bar is children raised
00:22:08.780 by same-sex couples, the same-sex parents produce worse results in virtually every category. 0.71
00:22:15.440 Children raised by same-sex couples are far more likely to be obese as adults, far more likely to 0.79
00:22:19.740 be distant from their parents, more likely to have suicidal ideation as an adult, far more likely to
00:22:25.280 be depressed as an adult. Then there's the findings from the National Health Interview Study, which
00:22:30.840 looked at 1.6 million cases and found 512 same-sex parent families. And you can see the
00:22:38.580 results. It's the same story. Children raised in same-sex households were more likely to have
00:22:43.140 emotional problems across the board. Donald Paul Sullins, a professor of sociology at Catholic
00:22:48.940 University, summarized the findings this way, quote, biological relationship, it appears,
00:22:53.080 is both necessary and sufficient to explain the higher risk of emotional problems faced
00:22:57.040 by children with same-sex parents, the primary benefit of marriage for children, therefore,
00:23:02.400 may not be that it tends to present them with improved parents, more stable, financially
00:23:06.920 affluent, although it does this, but that it presents them with their own parents.
00:23:13.480 Now, we talked about the problems with trying to do studies on a subject like this and how often
00:23:19.340 the results are rigged in a certain direction. And even in spite of all that, you still have
00:23:24.840 you as a result. I mean, you have to dig to find these studies because this is not exactly the kind
00:23:28.960 of research that's likely to be funded these days or reported on, but it's all out there.
00:23:35.680 And even if it wasn't, even if there wasn't a single study showing that children in same-sex 0.70
00:23:40.980 households have worse outcomes, which there are, we would still know that it's a horrible idea 0.96
00:23:47.880 to let gay couples adopt or use surrogacy. We wouldn't know that because it's a matter of basic
00:23:53.960 logic and common sense that by far the optimal situation for every child is to be raised by a
00:24:00.380 mother and a father. Every child has a mother and a father. This is the natural setup.
00:24:07.740 You know, when I say that two men are not meant to become parents, I'm not making a moral claim, 0.99
00:24:12.360 although I do think gay adoption and surrogacy are immoral. I'm making an observation about 1.00
00:24:17.660 physical reality. Two men are not meant to become parents. And we know that because two men cannot
00:24:24.880 become parents in principle. You know, it's not like, well, you could have a straight couple that 0.91
00:24:30.360 has infertility, which is a, which is a, you know, a defect. It's an illness. It's something has gone
00:24:37.080 wrong, right? With the setup. We're not talking about that. This in principle, by their very
00:24:42.500 nature, two men are forever and always, in all situations, in all cases, through all of time,
00:24:50.500 past, present, and future, excluded from the act of procreation.
00:24:57.360 Now, none of the arguments I'm making are new. It's not a revelation.
00:25:01.480 If you go back to the Obergefell decision in 2015 and pull up John Roberts' dissent,
00:25:05.640 you'll see that he makes all the same points. Now, I'm obviously not a fan of John Roberts,
00:25:10.180 But this dissent has aged extremely well. Roberts argued that if the court forced the nationwide legalization of same-sex marriage simply because a bunch of activists demanded it, then those same activists would soon be able to insist on all kinds of other legal protections without any basis in the Constitution. 0.75
00:25:26.380 Roberts wrote that the Supreme Court was ordering, quote, the transformation of a social institution that has formed the basis of human society for millennia for the Kalahari Bushmen and the Han Chinese and the Carthaginians and the Aztecs.
00:25:40.620 Roberts pointed out that, quote, for millennia across all civilizations, marriage referred to only one relationship, the union of a man and a woman.
00:25:48.900 Roberts noted that, quote, when sexual relations result in the conception of a child, that child's prospects are generally better if the mother and father stay together rather than going their separate ways.
00:25:56.920 Therefore, for the good of children and society, sexual relations that can lead to procreation should occur only between a man and a woman committed to a lasting bond.
00:26:05.960 And from a Democratic perspective, Roberts observed that only 11 states had voted to legalize gay marriage, while five states had legalized the practice through court decisions. 0.73
00:26:16.420 The country was overwhelmingly in favor of keeping the institution of marriage intact.
00:26:21.600 Now, how did the Supreme Court majority, led by Justice Kennedy, respond to all those points?
00:26:26.760 They didn't.
00:26:28.700 Pull up the decision sometime and you see for yourself.
00:26:31.980 Obergefell wasn't based in the Constitution at all.
00:26:34.200 it was the beginning of a slippery slope that has continued to this day. 0.97
00:26:38.140 You could draw a straight line from Obergefell to those videos of the gay men taunting the baby 0.86
00:26:43.200 that they purchased and trafficked into their homes.
00:26:48.400 And by the way, when you hear the term slippery slope, you're often told that it's a fallacy.
00:26:52.300 It's a convenient label that's used by people who know very well that the slippery slope is actually not only not a fallacy,
00:26:59.280 it's undefeated.
00:27:00.500 I mean, so-called social conservatives have been making slippery slope arguments for decades and have always been right every single time.
00:27:11.900 The left wants us to accept something and conservatives say, no, that's bad.
00:27:16.840 And also, if we accept that, here's where it's going to lead.
00:27:19.440 And then they're shouted down as being, you know, as being as being panicking and exaggerating and all the rest.
00:27:26.960 And then what do you know? The thing happens every single time.
00:27:30.500 now if you give left-wing activists any kind of concession they'll immediately demand more
00:27:35.940 concessions if you change the definition of marriage to appease which is not even possible
00:27:40.140 to actually do but if you create this fiction um well they're not going to stop there
00:27:45.940 they're going to reorganize or they're going to recognize that you're weak and then they're going
00:27:50.540 to use the court system to enable horrors beyond human comprehension just like they use the courts 0.93
00:27:57.020 to force gay marriage in every state. 0.98
00:27:59.160 They've used courts to mandate 0.70
00:28:00.520 racial equity programs,
00:28:02.500 gay adoption, surrogacy, 0.83
00:28:04.620 child castration, mutilation, 0.97
00:28:06.720 under the guise of so-called 0.62
00:28:08.220 gender-affirming care.
00:28:09.380 And the whole time they're doing it,
00:28:11.380 they'll claim you're a bigot if you object.
00:28:13.300 They'll accuse you of being a hateful person
00:28:15.140 for recognizing obvious patterns of behavior.
00:28:19.580 It's a total abomination.
00:28:21.040 There's no coherent argument
00:28:22.060 in defense of it at all.
00:28:23.600 Not a single argument. 1.00
00:28:24.520 there's no argument in defense of allowing gay men to acquire babies. There's actually no argument 1.00
00:28:32.240 for it. The best that advocates can do is argue that, well, maybe allowing gay men to purchase 1.00
00:28:38.840 babies might not be that harmful to the baby. Well, that's wrong, of course. It is harmful, 0.90
00:28:44.560 but it's also not an argument for why this is a positive good that should be embraced,
00:28:50.620 because it isn't. Gay surrogacy and gay adoption are predicated on the idea that gay men
00:28:57.440 and women have a right to become parents. That's not only morally insane, it's also 0.97
00:29:05.280 logically incoherent. It's like jumping off a building and claiming that you have the right
00:29:09.560 to fly. Nobody has the right to defy the laws of nature. Where would such a right even originate?
00:29:17.740 But as long as leftists can invent rights out of thin air, which is what they did in Obergefell,
00:29:22.760 then they're not going to stop until somebody forces them to stop.
00:29:28.080 So let's have that conversation. Let's state as plainly as we possibly can.
00:29:32.540 The two men cannot be parents. It's impossible.
00:29:35.660 It doesn't matter how they feel or what they want. It cannot be.
00:29:39.000 The only right at issue here, and the one that's being ignored completely, is the right of the child.
00:29:44.940 The child has a right to be raised by a mother and a father, not two men masquerading as mother and father.
00:29:51.400 The child not only has that right, but it is indeed one of the first and most fundamental rights.
00:29:57.180 I mean, the whole idea of a right is that it is a thing that you rightfully possess by nature.
00:30:04.460 All of our legal rights in this country are based on the philosophical idea that some things belong to us by our nature.
00:30:12.580 Those are our unalienable rights, as it says in the Declaration of Independence.
00:30:16.640 Every child has a mother and a father by nature.
00:30:21.340 A child's mother and father belong to him, belong to him, and he to them.
00:30:28.500 This is literally what a human right is.
00:30:32.120 Now, some children will be deprived of one or both parents by death or some other misfortune.
00:30:36.880 If that happens, then obviously it can't be said the child's rights are being willfully infringed
00:30:41.320 in the same way that, you know, we wouldn't say a person's property rights are infringed when a
00:30:45.300 tornado hits the house. But when a conscious choice is made to uproot a child out and away
00:30:53.680 from his natural family, rip him away from his mother and place him into some kind of constructed
00:30:58.440 artificial scenario where he'll be raised according to the impossible fiction that he has two dads or
00:31:03.860 two moms, then in that case, his rights have been violated. They've been violated at the deepest
00:31:09.920 level that it's possible for a right to be violated. A gay couple that's not allowed to 1.00
00:31:15.900 adopt or use surrogacy is not experiencing any infringement of their rights because they have 0.94
00:31:20.460 no right to possess a child that they did not and cannot conceive themselves. But a child,
00:31:26.600 on the other hand, does have a right to his own mother because she is his mother.
00:31:31.540 This should not be a difficult concept to understand.
00:31:34.580 And until we stop pretending that we don't understand the concept, children will continue to be abused in ways that we can't possibly fathom or detect.
00:31:47.040 And the solution is clear. Ban adoption by gay couples. Ban human trafficking under the guise of surrogacy for everybody in all cases. 1.00
00:31:55.160 Do it at the federal level. And ultimately, yes, we have to overturn Obergefell. And we should not be shy about saying that.
00:32:04.580 which, next to Roe, is the most farcical and ridiculous Supreme Court decision of all time.
00:32:11.160 I've said repeatedly that conservatives haven't done much with their time in Washington,
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00:32:23.300 The left has made the nuclear family their primary target precisely because they understand
00:32:27.320 how important the institution is to Western civilization.
00:32:29.540 And before any more children are tortured, before any more lives are destroyed, we need to defend it.
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00:34:47.660 All right, this is one of my favorite Trump headlines in a while from CNN.
00:34:52.300 Trump accelerates research on psychedelic treatments and asks, can I have some?
00:34:58.240 Reading on it says, President Donald Trump on Saturday signed an executive order aimed at encouraging expanded research into psychedelic drugs, part of a broader push to explore emerging mental health treatments.
00:35:08.160 Trump said during the event, in many cases, the experimental treatments have shown life changing potential for those suffering from severe mental illness and depression, including our cherished veterans.
00:35:16.340 The president also announced the federal government is making a $50 million investment for further research into the psychedelic drug Ibogaine.
00:35:24.020 I don't know how to pronounce it.
00:35:25.840 Trump, ahead of signing the order, pointed to initial research that demonstrates the drug's potential and quipped that he wanted some himself.
00:35:34.380 Okay, now, I will say that I really have no opinion about psychedelics and their potential value to treat mental health issues.
00:35:41.220 I'm skeptical.
00:35:42.680 Won't surprise you to learn.
00:35:43.580 uh i have no no interest in ever taking psychedelics i wouldn't recommend it i haven't
00:35:50.880 looked into it or researched it at all and i don't plan to so yeah i don't know but this this um
00:35:58.400 he he also makes this comment he says after he asked for some psychedelics
00:36:05.560 jokingly we assume he says uh i don't have time to be depressed you know if you stay busy enough
00:36:12.220 Maybe that works, too. That's what I do. And, you know, this that comment about depression, which was said sort of as an aside, got some attention, some negative attention.
00:36:21.880 Some people were upset by it. Trump says he doesn't have time to be depressed because he's too busy.
00:36:27.880 And a lot of people don't like these kinds of comments because they contradict the idea that depression is a disease in the same way that, you know, cancer is a disease.
00:36:35.880 And you would never say that somebody can get rid of cancer by staying busy. Right.
00:36:40.020 I mean, somebody has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer or something.
00:36:44.820 You're not going to say, oh, just stay busy and you'll be fine.
00:36:48.820 And, you know, depression is a physical disease like cancer, we're told.
00:36:52.860 And so when you say things like, oh, stay busy, it flies in the face of that.
00:36:58.680 But it's actually not true that depression is a disease in the way that cancer is a disease.
00:37:08.000 And it is true that actually staying busy is a good way to treat depression.
00:37:14.080 Provided you're staying busy with meaningful work.
00:37:18.160 Also like going for a walk, getting exercise.
00:37:21.320 All of these things will work much better in most cases than any pill ever will.
00:37:27.360 Because depression is a pattern of thought.
00:37:29.940 It is a state of mind.
00:37:31.100 It is a way of thinking about things.
00:37:32.780 It is a perspective.
00:37:35.000 there's a physical component to it because it involves your brain but it's no different in
00:37:40.680 that sense from any other feeling or thought process you know and it makes no sense to look
00:37:46.240 at the human mind which generates all kinds of thoughts and feelings and then declare that the
00:37:50.520 uncomfortable thoughts and feelings are all diseases and shouldn't exist and must be medicated
00:37:56.920 out of existence that's not just anti-human but it's illogical it's like incoherent and that's
00:38:04.540 why the medications very often don't work.
00:38:06.360 I mean, it's why we are at once
00:38:08.560 the most depressed and anxious
00:38:10.740 society ever in history
00:38:12.520 and also the most medicated.
00:38:15.760 People are going
00:38:16.500 to therapy more than ever before. They're taking more
00:38:18.420 of these drugs than ever before.
00:38:20.320 And yet, when you see
00:38:22.340 that trend, you should see depression
00:38:24.460 and anxiety doing this. If this thing
00:38:26.540 works and more people are taking it, then
00:38:28.200 we should see less of the thing that it treats.
00:38:31.660 That's not what's
00:38:32.460 happening.
00:38:34.540 because the medications generally don't work,
00:38:39.480 which we also heard in this event,
00:38:41.660 which also upset some people.
00:38:43.780 Listen. 0.99
00:38:44.700 On the fact that over 20% of U.S. women
00:38:47.800 are on these drugs that are prescribed for life.
00:38:51.260 We have a mental health crisis.
00:38:53.680 Do they work?
00:38:54.980 No.
00:38:56.220 They don't.
00:38:57.160 I'm on a couple of them.
00:38:59.320 I would not agree.
00:39:01.240 I would not agree.
00:39:04.540 20%. I mean, I've heard that statistic before, but it just blows my mind every time I hear it.
00:39:14.840 20% of women in this country are in antidepressants. That is crazy.
00:39:21.520 I mean, that's a full-on... If we can't look at that and recognize it as a full-on crisis,
00:39:27.440 like something is not right here. Something is wildly wrong, obviously.
00:39:34.540 um and you know she says she's on multiple of them they don't work and she's right
00:39:39.120 unless by work you mean that they numb you that they make you feel less right that that
00:39:48.300 psych meds can do that they can make you feel less like you're just you're you're feeling
00:39:54.500 you've less feeling that's true but they can't actually make you a happier more fulfilled
00:39:59.740 person. That's the thing. And I can state that, again, you don't need to look at any study for
00:40:06.800 this. Can a pill give you fulfillment and meaning in your life? No. It's impossible.
00:40:16.220 It's just impossible. No medication could do that. It's impossible. Because what is depression
00:40:23.180 ultimately? I mean, what is the depressed person thinking? What's going on in their mind?
00:40:29.300 What is the thought process that we call depression?
00:40:32.940 How does a person know that they're depressed?
00:40:36.260 We always hear that, well, it's more than just a sad feeling.
00:40:38.480 I agree.
00:40:41.260 So depression is ultimately the thought, the feeling, the perspective, however you want to put it,
00:40:48.860 that life is meaningless, that it's hopeless.
00:40:51.280 Depression is despair, and despair is the loss of hope.
00:40:54.540 It's the loss of meaning.
00:40:55.280 That's what it means.
00:40:58.480 there's no pill that can infuse into your mind a sense of meaning or hope.
00:41:04.160 That pill doesn't exist.
00:41:05.200 That's not a thing that can be...
00:41:06.220 It just can't be put into a pill.
00:41:07.680 You can't do that.
00:41:09.940 Now, what a pill can do, maybe, is make you less upset
00:41:13.400 about the meaninglessness in your life.
00:41:18.040 But that means that antidepressants work at best as kind of painkillers.
00:41:22.520 They treat the pain, but not the source of the pain.
00:41:25.980 It's like if somebody gets their leg blown off and you give them morphine.
00:41:29.420 Well, the morphine will make them feel less anguished about the missing leg, but it's not going to grow the leg back.
00:41:37.260 It's not going to prevent an infection that kills them.
00:41:40.940 And in that way, antidepressants might make you feel less pain from your sense of meaninglessness, but the sense remains.
00:41:47.660 The emptiness remains.
00:41:49.160 And if anything, it gets worse.
00:41:50.240 The reason why exercise and staying busy and going for a walk actually do treat depression, not the symptom but the thing itself, is in part because these things are goal-oriented.
00:42:02.180 They're healthy. They actually give you meaning. Not all the meaning you need in life, but they do have some meaning in them.
00:42:11.320 And that's why they work.
00:42:12.400 um and uh in any case this is an important conversation to have i mean we need to be
00:42:23.080 talking about psychiatric medication our society's dependence uh on it the downstream effects of that
00:42:31.200 dependency this is something i've been shouting about this forever and some some other i'm
00:42:36.900 certainly not the only one. Some others have as well. We have become a society that is totally
00:42:42.260 dependent on not, antidepressants are just one form of psychiatric medication. Obviously,
00:42:47.860 there's many others. And we have become totally dependent on it. And there's never been any kind
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00:44:45.500 all. And that brings me to this. Michaela, Jordan Peterson's daughter, posted an update about her
00:44:52.120 dad. And Jordan has been, of course, out of commission for going on a year now, I think.
00:44:58.940 He's been sick. We haven't heard much about the nature of that. The family's been very private
00:45:04.500 about it, understandably. And yesterday, Michaela posted this. I'll just read what she posted. She
00:45:11.480 She said, we figured out the data is a psych med-induced neurological injury and has been
00:45:15.060 suffering from akathisia. I believe it's how it's pronounced. It's been six years since any psych
00:45:20.660 medications. Last summer, symptoms started after a flare-up likely induced by mold and stress. It
00:45:25.700 was complicated by pneumonia and associated sepsis a month later. It's been horrible.
00:45:29.180 Neurological injuries from psych meds are far more common than people know. I made this video,
00:45:33.580 she made a video about it, to explain what they are and what akathisia is because they're not
00:45:38.780 talked about enough. They're misdiagnosed, nearly impossible to treat and hidden by the
00:45:41.880 pharmaceutical industry. And she goes on to say that I'll be jumping up and down about psych med
00:45:46.200 injury awareness from now on as it's impacted my health as well. And it's devastating.
00:45:50.340 So first of all, praying for Jordan and his family, Jordan's done a lot of good for a lot
00:45:55.520 of people, myself included, and his absence has certainly felt very clearly. And now we hear that
00:46:02.900 he's dealing with problems stemming from psychiatric medications, not antidepressants
00:46:06.600 in this case, to my understanding, but anti-anxiety meds, I believe. But the conversation is the same.
00:46:13.200 You know, psychiatric medications have been prescribed en masse to millions of people.
00:46:18.900 There's no evidence that they're actually working at this scale.
00:46:23.180 Basically, no conversation about the side effects and injuries they're causing.
00:46:28.040 And people are being profoundly harmed by it. And here's the thing.
00:46:32.540 then i'm always trying to find a way to to put this into words so you know
00:46:39.080 because i think when we talk about this we sort of miss the point
00:46:43.600 and to me the point is this that the people prescribing this stuff
00:46:48.700 don't actually know how the medicine works or if it works or why it works if it does work
00:46:59.580 or why it didn't work if it didn't work.
00:47:03.380 Because the human mind is as mysterious to science
00:47:07.520 as like a distant alien galaxy,
00:47:09.760 if not considerably more so, actually.
00:47:12.980 I mean, the human mind is the most mysterious thing
00:47:14.640 that we know of in the universe.
00:47:17.920 We don't even know how consciousness arises from the brain.
00:47:21.220 We don't understand the basic relationship
00:47:24.080 between the brain and consciousness.
00:47:26.800 There's a huge gap in our understanding,
00:47:28.800 Which, you know, any scientist or doctor who's honest will admit that.
00:47:34.620 Well, the problem is that these medicines operate in that gap.
00:47:42.320 Like anybody with depression or anxiety is experiencing a distressing state of consciousness.
00:47:50.480 This is, I would hope, be obvious.
00:47:52.840 Like depression and anxiety are functions of consciousness.
00:47:55.160 You can't be depressed and anxious if you're not conscious.
00:47:58.800 So that's what it is. It's a conscious state. I mean, it's the most basic way to define what it
00:48:04.880 is. Depression is a certain conscious state. And the medical industry tells us that it originates
00:48:11.580 from physical mechanisms in the brain, but we don't actually know how the mechanisms in the
00:48:16.720 brain translate into conscious thoughts in the first place. And yet the medicines aim to fix
00:48:23.840 some problem related to how the physical mechanisms create these uncomfortable conscious
00:48:30.460 thoughts. Except that nobody who's prescribing the medicines or making them actually has any
00:48:36.760 idea how any of that works. So if somebody's experiencing anxiety, that's a conscious
00:48:45.120 experience, right? So then they take an anti-anxiety medication. If the medication works and now
00:48:52.600 they're consciously experiencing less anxiety and they go back to the doctor and they say,
00:48:56.280 hey doc, it worked. The doctor will say, hey, it's great. Excellent news. But keep taking your
00:49:02.680 pills. You want some more? But if the person follows up and says, hey, how did it work exactly?
00:49:08.680 Like how did the medicine alter my state of consciousness so that I'm experiencing less
00:49:13.620 anxiety? I mean, anxiety is not, it's not like a hallucination. I mean, if somebody's anxious,
00:49:19.260 anxiety is a thought process. You're thinking certain things. And how did the medicine change
00:49:27.480 what I'm thinking? The doctor, if he's honest, will have to say to the patient,
00:49:33.720 I don't know. I don't know. I have no clue, actually. I really don't know at all.
00:49:42.960 Which means that if it doesn't work, the doctor also doesn't know why it didn't work.
00:49:46.960 And if there are downstream psychological side effects or injuries, he also is not going to know why that's happening or how to make it stop happening or if it will ever stop happening.
00:49:57.320 He doesn't know any of that.
00:50:00.980 We are messing around with things we don't understand.
00:50:03.860 We are drugging our minds into oblivion at best based on very incomplete science.
00:50:10.360 At best.
00:50:12.360 Very incomplete.
00:50:16.960 you know, I mean, it's like throwing a grenade into a dark room without having any idea of
00:50:24.540 what's in there. No clue at all. Maybe it'll work out fine. Maybe you'll kill 10 people.
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00:52:05.300 Our New York Post says this article,
00:52:07.400 nearly 10% of U.S. births in 2023 came from illegal immigrant mothers.
00:52:12.500 According to newly published research, Pew Research Center revealed that 320,000 of the
00:52:17.360 3.6 million babies born in the U.S. that year were anchor babies who would not qualify for
00:52:23.560 birthright citizenship if President Trump's executive order is upheld by the Supreme Court.
00:52:30.540 Now, that's pretty stunning. I mean, 10% of all births are anchor babies.
00:52:34.120 totally ridiculous situation. It's going to completely transform the demographics of the 0.53
00:52:40.220 country in very short order. Obviously, that's the point. And it's going to accomplish this goal
00:52:45.380 on the ridiculous premise, well, actually two ridiculous premises. The first is that the 0.93
00:52:51.080 founders of our country actually intended to open American citizenship up to millions of 1.00
00:52:59.040 third worlders from the poorest and most dysfunctional places on earth. As long as 1.00
00:53:04.860 they manage to make it across the border before they give birth, nobody really believes that the
00:53:11.760 founders intended that or that the authors of the 14th amendment attended it, who are writing the
00:53:16.340 14th amendment specifically for freed slaves, not immigrants. And yet nobody believes that.
00:53:23.840 everyone knows that's not true, but we're supposed to accept it anyway. And the other
00:53:30.020 absurd premise is in the name, birthright citizenship, birthright. I mean, just think
00:53:37.840 about that birthright. The idea is that the child of an illegal immigrant from Guatemala
00:53:43.020 has a birthright to be here and be considered an American. A child of a third world mother 0.99
00:53:50.560 who makes it across our border three weeks before delivery has now a birthright. 1.00
00:53:57.240 That's completely insane. And again, everybody knows it. The actual birthright belongs to
00:54:03.120 Americans, real Americans who were born to American parents, Americans who are tied to
00:54:09.420 this land by heritage, by blood, by ancestry. They have a birthright, a birthright to live
00:54:15.320 in the country their ancestors built for them. A birthright to enjoy the prosperity and safety
00:54:22.640 and security their ancestors intended to pass down to them. That's the birthright. But everything's
00:54:29.960 so backwards and upside down that if you talk about birthright in that sense, you'll be called
00:54:34.620 a bigot. The term birthright is condemned as bigoted unless it's applied precisely to the
00:54:42.320 people who actually have no birthright in the first place. So some, you know, kid from Honduras 1.00
00:54:53.520 whose parents were illegal immigrants can grow up and talk about his birthright.
00:54:59.600 If I say that about myself, well, I'm a white nationalist.
00:55:04.580 and speaking of this issue
00:55:09.080 I saw this screenshot
00:55:09.960 of a New York Times article
00:55:11.160 posted to X
00:55:11.960 by somebody named
00:55:13.080 Theo Wold
00:55:14.320 and he captions it
00:55:15.720 the New York Times
00:55:16.460 tells us the story
00:55:17.180 of an illegal alien couple
00:55:18.280 from Honduras
00:55:18.920 who were expecting
00:55:20.060 their first child
00:55:20.640 after being deported last year
00:55:21.660 due to a charge
00:55:22.660 for drug possession
00:55:23.500 they snuck back
00:55:24.740 across the U.S. border
00:55:25.600 a felony
00:55:26.240 to ensure their son
00:55:28.040 would be born an American
00:55:29.040 they were then deported
00:55:31.160 yet again
00:55:31.700 but their son is now
00:55:32.520 an American citizen
00:55:33.280 with the same rights
00:55:34.020 as you and I 0.69
00:55:34.580 This is why the Supreme Court needs to overturn birthright citizenship.
00:55:39.520 Okay, so this is a case study that, keep in mind, the New York Times has presented this as something that exemplifies the birthright citizenship issue.
00:55:51.700 So they're saying we need birthright citizenship for people like this, that the person profiled here.
00:55:57.460 This is their choice.
00:55:58.320 This is not me cherry picking.
00:55:59.960 They've chosen this.
00:56:01.460 And let me read the excerpt that Theo provides here.
00:56:04.580 her baby gail was born a month early in a south texas hospital as gail slept the officer explained
00:56:10.780 that a bus had arrived to take miss acosta back to the detention center where she had lived for
00:56:14.980 the past three months it was time to say goodbye miss acosta felt her whole body tremble as she
00:56:19.880 moved away from her son a 27 year old immigrant from indoras she and her partner had crossed the
00:56:24.000 southern border in the fall when miss acosta was about six months pregnant after being deported
00:56:27.900 from the united states the previous spring the couple knew that they were taking a chance when
00:56:31.960 they began their 1,700-mile journey back to the U.S., but to give their first child together
00:56:37.040 a chance at American citizenship, to be born on U.S. soil, they had agreed that they would do
00:56:42.860 anything. Okay, so this is the New York Times trying to make us sympathize with anchor babies
00:56:49.820 by giving us this story, which they obviously believe is a good representative of most anchor
00:56:55.060 baby cases, and it is. They're right. And this is a story of an illegal immigrant woman and a
00:57:01.300 criminal, deported for drug possession, comes back across the border, as is pointed out in the
00:57:05.980 caption, a felony to cross the border again after being deported. And it sprints across
00:57:15.200 the finish line at the last minute and has the baby on US soil. This is a citizen of Honduras 0.98
00:57:24.260 trying to use a technicality to circumvent our laws to include the laws against drug possession.
00:57:31.300 does any rational person, does any thinking person actually think that this makes sense?
00:57:39.480 That it should be this way? That it's reasonable to allow this kind of thing?
00:57:47.600 It doesn't even make any sense. This is the magical dirt theory of U.S. citizenship,
00:57:55.240 that there is something mystical about the dirt itself, about the land itself.
00:58:01.760 And so if you could just be on the land, doesn't matter if you committed a felony to get here,
00:58:07.900 doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you're, if you're, if you're giving
00:58:10.960 birth 10 seconds after you just, you just made it across the finish line. You just, you dive
00:58:18.440 a cross and land on the ground and then immediately give birth, he's a U.S. citizen forever.
00:58:27.680 Why?
00:58:28.360 Well, because the dirt is magical.
00:58:30.500 It's magic dirt.
00:58:34.760 That's the argument.
00:58:36.720 And if you're sensing the theme here, it's like an argument, again, that no one actually
00:58:42.340 thinks that.
00:58:44.660 All right.
00:58:45.420 This article is making the rounds online.
00:58:48.620 New York Post says,
00:58:51.520 researchers have established that lobsters feel pain
00:58:53.820 in a manner similar to that of other mammals,
00:58:56.020 including humans,
00:58:57.280 and boiling, the traditional method
00:58:59.500 for killing these crustaceans,
00:59:00.780 causes them suffering.
00:59:02.080 In light of this revelation,
00:59:03.100 scientists are calling for an immediate,
00:59:04.520 legally enforced ban on boiling.
00:59:08.760 Experts have long debated
00:59:09.920 whether lobsters' behavioral responses
00:59:11.620 to harmful stimuli indicate
00:59:13.140 that they actually feel pain
00:59:15.220 are exhibiting mechanical reflexes.
00:59:17.000 To settle the argument,
00:59:18.020 a team of researchers at Sweden's University of Gothenburg
00:59:20.100 examined how the behavior of Norway lobsters changed
00:59:22.560 if the creatures were given painkillers.
00:59:25.040 In the study, electrical shocks
00:59:26.600 considered painful in humans
00:59:28.580 were administered to the lobsters.
00:59:30.860 When the shocks were delivered to lobsters
00:59:32.660 that had not been treated with painkillers,
00:59:34.680 they attempted to escape by rapidly flipping their tails.
00:59:37.860 However, when the lobsters were injected with aspirin
00:59:40.180 or lidocaine,
00:59:41.860 no escape attempts or tail flipping were recorded.
00:59:45.220 And so anyway, now they're calling for a ban across the world, I guess, of boiling lobsters.
00:59:54.400 Boiling is already illegal in Austria, several Australian states, Norway, and New Zealand.
01:00:01.820 First of all, there's kind of a morbid comedy in the idea of scientists being so concerned about the suffering of lobsters that they do experiments where they electrocute lobsters.
01:00:12.020 what kind of mad scientist scene were they setting up here you've just got lobsters strapped you got
01:00:21.680 dozens of lobsters in this dungeon strapped they have no idea what's going on strapped down and
01:00:30.520 being electrocuted by these people in lab coats and the people lab coats are saying this is for
01:00:35.760 your own good. I know it hurts. You're never going to convince me that they actually were
01:00:45.160 motivated by any kind of humane concern. You just wanted to electrocute something. That's all that
01:00:49.060 was. That's all these scientists were doing. They saw a lobster and said, wouldn't it be,
01:00:54.120 what would happen if we electrocuted one? And they came up with a whole study just to justify it.
01:00:59.760 And second, for the record, the study doesn't actually establish that lobsters experience
01:01:04.240 pain. It doesn't establish anything at all. This is why, I mean, to go back to the beginning about
01:01:10.180 we talk about studies very often are totally bunk. You can find studies that are worthwhile,
01:01:18.720 but you got to really check the methodology. A lot of times studies are just like this.
01:01:23.260 It's just scientists. It's just like making up bulls**t. Oh, if he flips his tail, he's experiencing 0.92
01:01:30.520 pain. What? Why would you assume that? Because experiencing pain is a question of consciousness. 0.99
01:01:40.320 A thing can respond to physical torture by convulsing around or recoiling. That doesn't
01:01:44.320 establish that it is a conscious experience of pain. In order for that to happen, the animal
01:01:49.620 would have to be aware that it exists and that it is experiencing pain. So to actually experience
01:01:57.920 pain requires a capacity for conscious experience. And do lobsters have that capacity? I have no
01:02:05.020 idea. I doubt that they do. There's no way. You can electrocute a million lobsters. You'll never
01:02:10.540 get to the bottom of that. And third, lobsters are the most overrated food on the planet anyway.
01:02:17.640 You know, second only to crabs, actually. Neither are worth the effort. You got to sit there and
01:02:22.580 crack open a shell, dig out the meat like an animal. Meanwhile, beef in every form tastes
01:02:31.080 better and doesn't require me to do any work. So anytime someone's like, you want to have lobster,
01:02:34.640 you want to have crab? No, I'll just have a hamburger. It tastes way better and it's much
01:02:42.420 easier. And I don't have this alien looking thing that I have to crack it open and it's like guts
01:02:49.960 are spilling out and there's weird yellow stuff coming out. So I don't have to, I don't have to
01:03:01.420 murder the cow myself by boiling it to death. I mean, I would, if that's what it took to enjoy
01:03:08.720 a hamburger, I wouldn't want to. I'm just saying that if that's how cheeseburgers were made,
01:03:15.760 then I'm going to do what I got to do. What are you going to do? Not eat a cheeseburger? Let's be
01:03:22.280 real. But fourth, most importantly, and the point that everyone is making in response to this
01:03:31.740 article, and rightly so, is that the scientific community here is showing more concern for the
01:03:37.880 suffering of crustaceans, of these cockroaches of the sea, than they are for actual human babies,
01:03:43.460 unborn babies. I mean, this is the connection a lot of people are making, and rightly so. 1.00
01:03:48.220 We know that unborn children feel pain, and it's much more likely that they are consciously aware 1.00
01:03:52.820 of that pain to some degree. And whether they feel pain or not, I mean, they do, but regardless,
01:03:59.160 they're human. Lobsters are lobsters. And we heard about several countries that already ban
01:04:04.100 boiling lobsters. All of those countries, it will not surprise you to learn, have legalized abortion.
01:04:13.460 So it is a fact. It's not some kind of right-wing talking point to say that those countries give
01:04:18.880 more rights to lobsters than to human babies in the womb. That is a true fact. In New Zealand,
01:04:25.420 for example, lobsters are more protected than unborn babies. Lobsters are recognized by the
01:04:36.600 law to have more of a moral claim than unborn humans. And I'd bet a lot of money that the
01:04:44.800 scientists calling for this boiling ban, these weirdo scientists electrocuting poor lobsters, 0.67
01:04:50.500 I'd bet all of them are pro-abortion. I have no clue, but I'd put a lot of money on that
01:04:55.800 assumption. And this is liberalism in a nutshell. A human baby is a meaningless clump of cells.
01:05:02.900 And then on the other hand, you got this hideous, weird, alien-looking ocean bug
01:05:08.840 is a beautiful, sacred life worthy of legal protection and moral consideration.
01:05:16.860 It is a perfect inversion. Everything flipped on its head once again.
01:05:22.100 So another theme of the show.
01:05:25.720 And I guess we'll wrap it up there.
01:05:28.660 I wouldn't actually boil a cow alive, just to be clear.
01:05:30.940 before Media Matters gets to work on that one.
01:05:34.700 I wouldn't actually do that, you know.
01:05:37.420 If you've got to kill a cow and then boil it
01:05:39.360 in order to get the cheeseburger,
01:05:40.800 then I would probably do that.
01:05:41.920 But I don't think I'd boil it a lot.
01:05:44.140 It's a moral quandary.
01:05:45.240 You'd have to debate it,
01:05:45.940 but ultimately I'd come down against it.
01:05:47.620 So just to clarify that one thing.
01:05:49.500 We'll wrap it up there and talk to you tomorrow.
01:05:51.980 Have a great day.
01:05:52.620 Godspeed.
01:06:00.940 I do believe that if people have committed treason against the United States of America,
01:06:07.720 their statutes should not be in the Capitol.
01:06:11.620 History is written by the victors, and since the 1960s we've been told,
01:06:14.700 mostly by people whose ancestors didn't even live here during the war,
01:06:18.480 the South committed treason.
01:06:20.660 But if the Confederates were traitors,
01:06:23.300 then why was Jefferson Davis never put on trial for treason?
01:06:28.020 What were Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Johnson afraid of?
01:06:32.900 Do they know something they're not allowed to say today?
01:06:37.900 It's time for the truth.
01:06:38.900 So here it is.
01:06:39.900 Robert E. Lee was a military genius and a man of immense honor.
01:06:43.060 He was beloved by Americans from the North and South for a century after the war.
01:06:48.560 This is the real history of the Civil War.
01:06:58.020 You