The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1778 - Meet The Domestic Terrorist Who Is Now Worshipped As A Hero

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00:00:55.300 On Monday, we established that everything you've been told about the civil rights movement was a lie.

00:01:01.580 Beginning in the 1960s and continuing to this day, self-described champions of civil rights have relied on propaganda campaigns and violent riots to achieve their objectives,

00:01:13.500 which have nothing to do with racial equality and everything to do with anti-white race hatred,

00:01:19.300 which was openly encouraged by the Soviets for the express purpose of dividing America

00:01:23.800 and destroying us from within. As Democrats from Virginia to California recast all of their 0.86

00:01:30.620 current political battles as civil rights struggles, it's never been more important to

00:01:35.480 understand their actual motivations. And to do that, you need to understand the history

00:01:41.380 that they're lying about, which is why we launched part one of the real history of the

00:01:46.680 civil rights yesterday on the Daily Wire. Now, at the same time, there's a reason that we released

00:01:51.620 a separate but very much related documentary on the Civil War a month ago. The truth is that if

00:01:59.200 you want to understand the era of mass deception and racial hysteria that's been ongoing for

00:02:04.900 decades in this country, you can't view the civil rights era in isolation. You have to go back much

00:02:10.280 further than the 1960s. Specifically, you have to understand that everything you've been taught

00:02:15.040 about the Civil War is a lie as well.

00:02:18.840 You have to understand why exactly the Civil War began

00:02:22.660 because no school in the entire country

00:02:24.660 will tell you the actual reason.

00:02:27.780 And to come to this understanding,

00:02:29.180 you have to put yourself in the position

00:02:30.500 of a white American Southerner in the late 1850s,

00:02:35.200 which is something that you're never supposed to do

00:02:37.740 because you're supposed to believe

00:02:39.440 that all white American Southerners in the 1850s

00:02:42.640 were cartoon villains, but they weren't. They were human beings. They were regular people.

00:02:49.420 Now, let's run this thought experiment for a second using actual numbers from U.S. census data.

00:02:56.040 Let's assume you're a normal guy, and just like 94% of the white population of the South,

00:03:02.160 you don't own any slaves. I'll say that again. You were just like the 5.1 million other white

00:03:08.840 people in the South, 94%, who did not own a single slave. You were not one of the 316,000

00:03:17.600 slave owners. And most of the people you know don't own slaves either. Slavery is not a part

00:03:24.060 of your day-to-day life. Your attitude towards people of different races is probably about the

00:03:31.100 same as the attitude of almost everybody in the North and almost everyone of every race on the

00:03:36.000 planet at the time. This was not an enlightened attitude by our standards today, but then

00:03:41.380 nobody at the time, anywhere on the globe of any race, had an attitude that we would consider

00:03:47.940 racially enlightened. Now, even so, the supposedly anti-slavery good guys were on a campaign to

00:03:55.960 massacre you and everybody who looks like you. They were butchering white infants in the crib. 0.99

00:04:01.940 They made it clear that they wanted to wipe out your entire bloodline 0.96

00:04:05.460 and the bloodline of anybody who looks like you.

00:04:08.300 And just imagine that for a second.

00:04:09.400 Try to understand the level of moral panic and mass psychosis

00:04:12.480 that must have gripped the northern states for any of this to be happening.

00:04:16.840 Try to imagine what a typical southerner would do faced with a situation like that.

00:04:22.000 Now, they wouldn't be interested in an insurrection or a civil war

00:04:25.280 over a political or economic dispute,

00:04:27.080 but they would certainly be interested in doing whatever it took to survive, and understandably so.

00:04:33.800 And in 2026, you need to understand that a similar mass psychosis, a similar glorification of the mass

00:04:38.840 murder of conservative white people, which has resulted in many deaths and which will potentially

00:04:43.600 result in many, many more, is underway as we speak. The exact same sort of hysteria that led to the

00:04:49.700 Civil War is once again being invoked by a major political party in this country, explicitly so.

00:04:55.880 Only this time around, slavery doesn't exist in this country at all.

00:05:00.240 There is no actual evil like slavery for the anti-white militants in our time to use as a pretense.

00:05:07.060 But that hasn't stopped them.

00:05:09.460 And once you understand the history of the Civil War, you'll agree that this state of affairs, one way or another, simply cannot continue.

00:05:16.980 It's untenable.

00:05:17.480 there's one man who is central to understanding the outbreak of civil war in 1861 as well as the

00:05:24.180 violence that the left seeks to commit today and his name was john brown not to the extent that

00:05:29.160 you've heard about john brown at all the basic idea is that he was a brave though eccentric and

00:05:34.140 maybe slightly crazy abolitionist who led an armed uprising against slavery before it was

00:05:39.260 cool to do so public schools media outlets and the entertainment industry all tell the same story

00:05:44.480 about John Brown. Here, for example, is an excerpt from the trailer of the recent Showtime

00:05:50.540 miniseries about John Brown, starring Ethan Hawke. This is from the same people who made the film

00:05:57.000 Get Out, unsurprisingly enough. Watch. My name is Captain John Brown.

00:06:07.940 And I am here in the name of the great King of Kings

00:06:16.360 The Holy Redeemer

00:06:25.160 The Man of Trinity

00:06:27.020 Cause he is on the side of justice

00:06:37.940 And you are on the side of change.

00:06:42.380 Whatever he believed, he believed.

00:06:44.980 Didn't matter if it was true or not. 0.99

00:06:46.980 The old man was nuttier than a squirrel turd. 0.96

00:06:51.320 Onion, you've been reading the Bible. 0.97

00:06:52.960 Not too much, but I've been thanking the golly way.

00:06:55.280 If we can work with that, you stand for the Lord.

00:06:57.200 The Lord will stand for you.

00:07:01.880 So you get the idea.

00:07:03.740 Maybe John Brown's a little off kilter.

00:07:05.740 maybe he's got his heart, you know, but he's got his heart in the right place. And if anything,

00:07:09.740 his insanity, his total disinterest and self-preservation makes him a better fighter

00:07:14.260 for righteous cause. That's the message they're sending. And indeed, the top comment on the

00:07:19.480 trailer reads, quote, for everyone who called him insane, he was as sane as the times he lived in.

00:07:25.880 So message received. Amazingly enough, you'll also find John Brown's portrait in the National

00:07:31.140 Portrait Gallery, which is a federal building just a few blocks from the Capitol in Washington.

00:07:37.060 In fact, there's several portraits of John Brown hanging in that gallery.

00:07:40.800 One of their official, on their official website, here's how the National Portrait Gallery describes

00:07:45.440 John Brown, quote, abolitionist John Brown believed he had been called by God to embark

00:07:49.900 on a personal crusade to end slavery. Brown and five of his sons were actively engaged

00:07:53.940 in the bloody guerrilla war being waged in Kansas in 1855 to 56 between pro-slavery and anti-slavery

00:08:01.020 factions. But in 1857, Brown began making plans for the 1859 raid on the federal arsenal at

00:08:07.600 Harper's Ferry, an event that would make him both infamous and immortal. The scheme to commandeer

00:08:12.640 firearms with which to arm a slave rebellion failed, and Brown was captured, tried, and hanged.

00:08:17.700 His insurrection found favor among many northern abolitionists. That's the description that you'll

00:08:23.220 find in most history textbooks all over the country. It's obviously a very flattering portrayal,

00:08:27.820 and uh it's not an unusual one there's a similar sentiment pretty much everywhere else on the

00:08:34.460 internet john brown's celebrity has enjoyed something of a resurgence recently on theo

00:08:38.940 von show shane gillis uh offered this interpretation of john brown's life they're gonna rise up if i

00:08:46.460 let uh uh john brown did that did he really yeah that's how he sparked the civil war in america

00:08:51.520 he was like i'm gonna start it he thought rightfully so that slavery was uh he was very

00:08:56.960 religious and he was like this is the gravest sin john brown's raid on harper's ferry he's like if

00:09:01.740 i go take the armory at harper's ferry all the slaves from all the area are going to join us 0.88

00:09:06.780 and not many of them did almost none so he's a white guy or black guy he was a honky but his

00:09:11.480 last name was brown he gets a lot of credit in the black community i mean he he's the man he

00:09:15.860 started and they hung him he's from kansas or something yeah wow so he really was trying his

00:09:21.680 He was just out in Kansas. 0.88

00:09:22.980 And who hung him, the whites? 0.99

00:09:24.900 Yeah, the Honkies got him. 1.00

00:09:26.080 God.

00:09:26.900 He's buried in the mountains in New York.

00:09:30.900 How do you pronounce this?

00:09:31.780 I don't know how to pronounce that word.

00:09:33.900 Adironday.

00:09:34.420 Yeah, there we go.

00:09:35.540 Everyone had it. 0.91

00:09:36.680 He was a beast.

00:09:41.240 He was getting after it, though, before he did that. 0.99

00:09:42.860 He was killing all the southern sympathizers. 0.95

00:09:46.420 Slave owners? 0.99

00:09:47.040 Sympathizers? 0.90

00:09:47.520 Yeah, in Kansas.

00:09:48.560 Him and his sons were machete-ing people.

00:09:51.120 pretty good guy. So he's a pretty good guy. He killed the slave owners and the sympathizers.

00:09:57.120 He got after it with machetes. And sadly, in the end, the honkies got him. Those disgraceful whites 0.98

00:10:03.740 executed an American hero. That's coming from a comedian who many on the right consider to be an 0.98

00:10:08.480 independent thinker. He's transgressive and so on, supposedly. And here he's just repeating the same

00:10:14.340 depraved, slanderous narrative as everybody else. A few months ago on Reddit, fans of U.S. history

00:10:19.900 ranked John Brown on their list of top 10 greatest Americans of history, just behind Martin Luther

00:10:26.920 King Jr. The list also includes the mostly fictional character of Harriet Tubman, a disabled

00:10:31.980 woman who was transformed into a mythical hero by two communist writers who invented tales of the

00:10:37.620 Underground Railroad out of thin air, but we'll talk about her later. In the meantime, the left-wing

00:10:43.340 outlet Jacobin just wished John Brown a happy birthday. Quote, radical abolitionist John Brown

00:10:48.680 was born on this day in 1800.

00:10:51.020 I acknowledge no master in human form.

00:10:54.200 And in response to that post,

00:10:55.340 the brother of Hakeem Jeffries,

00:10:56.720 who's the Democrat leader in the House,

00:10:58.040 wrote the following kind of troubling statement.

00:11:01.600 Quote, John Brown understood the only way to free America

00:11:04.160 from the scourge of white supremacy 0.99

00:11:05.420 was to get rid of white supremacists 1.00

00:11:07.680 by any means necessary. 0.98

00:11:09.820 He was right then, he is right now.

00:11:13.960 Now, all these people know exactly what they're doing. 0.98

00:11:16.000 in that case very explicitly calling for the extermination of white people that's what that is 0.98

00:11:22.580 and someone like that when he says white supremacist that's what he means he draws 0.99

00:11:27.120 no distinction between white supremacists and just white conservatives we're all the same

00:11:31.460 um and you know they know that john brown did not target white supremacists actually he didn't

00:11:37.840 target slave owners either he targeted white people he wanted to start a race war and ultimately

00:11:45.240 although no one likes to admit it, he succeeded beyond his wildest imagination.

00:11:51.240 Along with many other so-called abolitionists, John Brown pushed the South to take up arms

00:11:55.860 against the North by terrorizing them and by threatening to turn their communities into

00:11:59.360 violent hellscapes in which white people were systematically hunted and executed.

00:12:03.680 It's precisely the fact that John Brown and the abolitionists succeeded and pressured the South

00:12:07.640 into the war that makes him an icon on the left today. They want to emulate what they see as his

00:12:14.520 success. Now, again, if you doubt any of this, imagine that you're a white farmer living in 0.69

00:12:20.560 the territory of Kansas in April of 1856. Let's say your name is James Doyle. And at public

00:12:27.940 meetings, the topic of slavery is often discussed, even though, again, most whites in the South don't

00:12:31.580 own slaves. The mood is often extremely tense, but none of the anger is directed at you. After all,

00:12:37.320 you don't have a dog in the fight. And then one day, a pro-slavery sheriff is shot while he's

00:12:42.520 sitting in his tent. In retaliation, the pro-slavery side, composed of roughly 750 men

00:12:48.320 from Missouri, Alabama, and South Carolina, storms into the town of Lawrence, Kansas, which was home

00:12:54.660 to a large anti-slavery population. In fact, abolitionists had set up their own illegitimate

00:12:59.100 rival state government there after a disputed election, which caused numerous clashes and

00:13:03.040 standoffs, including the shooting of the sheriff. And the pro-slavery men came in. They destroyed

00:13:09.280 to hotel, newspapers, and even the houses of some abolitionists. No one is killed, but it's a

00:13:15.320 massive escalation of the violence. You're obviously worried about the future of the

00:13:18.820 country. At the same time as Mr. James Doyle, the farmer, you don't think of yourself as a target

00:13:24.580 because you haven't taken any position on slavery whatsoever. And again, you're not a slave owner.

00:13:30.980 Then the next night, from dozens of miles away, John Brown arrives at your community with about

00:13:36.340 30 riflemen, not interested in punishing the pro-slavery attackers who torched Lawrence. 0.99

00:13:41.480 Instead, because you're a white guy, he's interested in killing you in the most sadistic 1.00

00:13:46.640 fashion imaginable. So here's what happens to you. This is from Thomas Fleming's fantastic book, 1.00

00:13:52.600 A Disease in the Public Mind, which everybody should read. And I'll read from the book now,

00:13:58.340 quote, Brown, his four sons and two other followers dragged five unarmed men out of their

00:14:03.000 cabins, Brown ordered his sons to execute them before the horrified eyes of their wives and

00:14:10.080 children using two-edged cavalry swords that all but amputated arms and legs and heads.

00:14:15.760 Perhaps most appalling were the murders of James P. Doyle and his two oldest sons, while Doyle's

00:14:20.500 wife Mahala pleaded frantically for their lives and four other bewildered Doyle children watched

00:14:26.100 the butchery. The Doyles were immigrants from Tennessee who had come to Kansas seeking a better

00:14:30.400 life. They had no interest in owning slaves. The goal of the slaughter, John Brown said,

00:14:34.340 was to strike terror into the hearts of the pro-slavery people. Brown's son, Jason,

00:14:39.960 who was seriously mentally ill most of the time and had not accompanied the killers,

00:14:44.480 shouted in his father's face that it was uncalled for a wicked act. Brown grimly replied

00:14:49.440 that he would let God be my judge. Well, it wasn't just God who was judging. The whole country was

00:14:55.940 watching. Bleeding Kansas, as the crisis would be called, was a civil war in miniature. The

00:15:01.180 situation was tense, but actual deaths were rare. Brown murdering five people, especially in such

00:15:06.240 a grisly way, was a nationwide news. It led to dozens of other deaths and ensuing clashes between

00:15:12.960 pro- and anti-slavery militias. The military had to intervene to keep the peace. Brown was an

00:15:19.120 undeniably evil man who killed innocent people, that's it. That makes you an evil person, 1.00

00:15:28.240 deliberately killing, slaughtering innocent people. He had warrants out for his arrest for

00:15:34.480 murder, and yet he managed to earn himself a fandom by doing this. He could travel relatively

00:15:40.140 freely in the North and was even able to raise the equivalent of millions of dollars from wealthy

00:15:44.720 northerners, including people with enormous influence, who also weren't punished for

00:15:50.000 supporting what everybody would understand today as terrorism. He was a domestic terrorist.

00:15:55.760 Major public figures, politicians, intellectuals in the North tripped over themselves to defend 0.99

00:16:01.740 a crazy guy who shows up at strangers' houses and chops them into pieces with a sword.

00:16:09.420 Now, it's critical to understand about Brown's first massacre, which took place three years 0.87

00:16:12.820 before his infamous raid on Harper's Ferry that we'll discuss in a moment, is that his strategy

00:16:18.320 of demonizing and murdering innocent white people was not, in fact, abnormal. It was the defining 0.54

00:16:22.860 characteristic of these factions of the abolitionist movement. In fact, it was the go-to

00:16:29.320 strategy for many of these activists and freedom fighters going back several decades.

00:16:35.460 So at a certain point, if you're a rational white southerner, you would stop putting up with this,

00:16:41.780 especially if the same abolitionists who supported terrorism against him

00:16:45.940 were seen as having taken control of the federal government,

00:16:48.160 which also then began threatening to launch a military invasion of the South

00:16:51.640 during the secession crisis.

00:16:54.140 A rational white Southerner might take up arms not to defend slavery,

00:16:58.300 but to defend himself.

00:17:01.080 And that's what happened.

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00:18:51.520 You know, in our Civil War episode of Real History, available now on Daily Wire,

00:18:55.560 which you should go watch, and if you haven't watched the Civil Rights Movement,

00:19:00.560 one, I'd watch the Civil War one, and then the Civil Rights Movement one. But we go into this,

00:19:10.000 that the political reasons for the war, which did certainly include slavery, though not solely

00:19:17.540 slavery, often had nothing to do with the personal motivations of the men actually doing the fighting

00:19:24.340 on either side. For the men in the South who actually did the fighting, they saw it not as

00:19:31.120 a war to defend slavery, but as a war to defend their own lives and their homes.

00:19:38.300 And that makes a lot of sense because, again, the vast majority of them didn't have slaves,

00:19:42.680 especially the men who were doing the fighting. Most of them were poor farm boys. They didn't

00:19:49.020 have slaves. They were not going to go take to the field of battle and die horrifically

00:19:54.000 for the sake of defending some plantation owner's right to own a slave. It doesn't make any sense.

00:20:01.000 That's not what motivates people. It certainly doesn't, it's not what motivates them to risk

00:20:05.580 their lives. What does motivate them is the perception that they are defending their own

00:20:09.560 life, their family's life, and their home. And if we have the intellectual courage to be honest

00:20:15.180 about it, we could see why they might have perceived it that way. We could see why Robert E. Lee,

00:20:24.640 when given the chance, given the choice between leading the army of the North or fighting for the

00:20:31.060 South, he chose the South. Not because he wanted to defend slavery, and not even because he favored

00:20:37.300 secession. He didn't. But because from his perception, he was fighting to defend his home

00:20:44.540 where he lived from an invading army. The federal government was going to send an army into his

00:20:51.260 home, his state where he lives. And he could either join that army and take up his sword

00:20:58.100 against his own family, his own community, his own home, his own sons, probably. Or he could

00:21:03.900 fight against them. He chose to fight against them, not for slavery and not even for secession.

00:21:10.200 This is the distinction that's very important for people to understand, and it's totally lost

00:21:14.140 in the way that this subject is taught in schools and handled by the media in Hollywood

00:21:19.420 going back decades. Now, consider what happened after Nat Turner's rebellion in late August of

00:21:24.980 1831, and more specifically, consider how abolitionists responded to it. The substat

00:21:29.440 called American Tribune made this connection. It's a very important one. So Nat Turner was a

00:21:34.600 black preacher and slave. He also believed he was on a sacred mission from God to free as many

00:21:40.020 slaves as possible. And to that end, Turner gathered some followers and brutally murdered

00:21:45.480 his owner, Joseph Travis, as he slept in his bed. Hatchet was found in his brain. And then the mob

00:21:52.240 executed Travis's wife, as well as several other family members, members of his family, including

00:21:57.200 an infant. Virginius Dabney writes in his book, Virginia, the New Dominion, that, quote,

00:22:03.600 the child's brains were bashed out against the brick fireplace. It was reminiscent of the

00:22:08.100 barbarism of the slave revolts in places like Haiti or Santo Domingo. In fact, Turner himself

00:22:14.260 explicitly referenced those revolts. He said that once the whites were eradicated, the mob would 0.50

00:22:18.860 achieve the happy effects of their brethren in Santo Domingo and establish a government of their 0.99

00:22:23.580 own. But Turner wasn't done at that point. More than 50 innocent people were slaughtered,

00:22:28.220 primarily women and children. And towards the end of the rebellion, Turner's gang of

00:22:32.640 executioners proceeded to a farmhouse owned by the Vaughn family, where he came across

00:22:37.840 Rebecca Vaughn. She was gathering vegetables for dinner in her garden. And when the mob

00:22:42.820 arrived, she informed them that she was defenseless and alone with her children, and they slaughtered

00:22:48.000 her anyway, along with her 15-year-old son, who ran towards his mother in an attempt to

00:22:52.140 rescue her. And then 15-year-old Eliza Vaughn was cut down with gunfire as she sprinted into the

00:22:57.920 woods to try to escape. The family was slaughtered simply for being white. A reporter for a Virginia

00:23:04.960 newspaper, who was also a member of the militia that responded to the massacre, wrote the following

00:23:09.600 account of what happened, quote, whole family's father, mother, daughter, sons, sucking babes,

00:23:14.740 and school children butchered, thrown into heaps, and left to be devoured by hogs and dogs,

00:23:19.520 or to putrefy on the spot. One school teacher and 10 of her students were, quote,

00:23:25.820 piled in one bleeding heap on the classroom floor. Shortly afterwards, a Virginia militia arrived

00:23:32.120 backed by several hundred regulars, and they quickly suppressed the revolt and beheaded many

00:23:36.440 of the slaves who participated in the slaughter of men, women, and children. In the aftermath of

00:23:41.220 the rebellion, roughly 100 blacks were killed, including blacks who were not directly involved

00:23:46.580 in the rebellion, which was obviously an atrocity as well, a race war erupted, essentially. That's 0.77

00:23:53.060 what happened, and the leaders of the abolitionists were happy to see it. In fact, the single most

00:23:57.640 prominent abolitionist of the time, William Lloyd Garrison, celebrated the fact that people were

00:24:02.680 dying because of their skin color. As Fleming writes, quote, Garrison privately welcomed this 0.71

00:24:07.420 retaliation. On October 19th, 1831, he told one correspondent that he was pleased. The disturbance

00:24:13.840 is that the South still continue. The slaveholders are given over to destruction. They are determined

00:24:18.640 to shut out the light. Here was a signal revelation of the fundamental flaw in William Lloyd Garrison's

00:24:25.260 character, a flaw that permeated the New England view of the rest of America, an almost total lack

00:24:29.780 of empathy. Fellow Americans had just been exposed to an awful experience, a tragedy that dramatized

00:24:35.660 in horrendous terms the problem of Southern slavery. Did Garrison express even a hint of

00:24:39.720 sympathy or pity for these stunned, grieving families and their terrified neighbors? Did he

00:24:44.360 confess that his immediate emancipation slogan was wrong, or at least in need of amendment?

00:24:48.900 The only emotion Garrison permitted himself was thinly disguised gloating in a call for sympathy

00:24:53.060 for the slaves. No matter how much they deserved this emotion, was this the time to demand it?

00:24:59.420 Close quote. Now you have to ask yourself what kind of person would gloat after white women 0.90

00:25:04.480 were brutally carved up and white children had their heads bashed into a fireplace.

00:25:09.720 but this is the reality that they don't tell you about. You see, John Brown was not an aberration.

00:25:17.200 The reason John Brown gained a large following is that more than any other abolitionist,

00:25:22.180 he terrorized whites in the South. He took the fight to enemy civilians. He pushed Southerners

00:25:28.600 into a war that they couldn't win, which allowed for even more slaughter. And the South's defeat

00:25:33.440 paved the way for Reconstruction in the civil rights era, which directly infringed on the

00:25:38.080 constitutional rights of every white man in the country. And that's why they revere John Brown.

00:25:44.940 Now, if you disagree, if you think the Civil War was merely an ideological battle over slavery

00:25:50.100 and nothing else, then you have to explain away the undying, overwhelming rage that was directed

00:25:56.120 at the South, often in biblical terms. As Fleming puts it, the South was portrayed as a province

00:26:00.120 ruled by Satan that would consume the North's soul if her citizens did not vow to expunge the

00:26:05.300 sin of slavery. Even prominent political figures who opposed slavery found themselves overwhelmed

00:26:10.160 with the sheer dishonesty of the abolitionist tactics. Thomas Jefferson Randolph, a Virginia

00:26:15.640 planter and the grandson of Thomas Jefferson, is one of the more notable examples. Quoting from

00:26:20.500 Fleming, quote, Thomas Jefferson Randolph went back to Albemarle County, determined to continue

00:26:26.000 his fight for gradual abolition in his grandfather's name. He stood for the legislature again

00:26:31.940 and defeated a former U.S. congressman who ran against him on a pro-slavery platform.

00:26:36.660 Randolph soon grew discouraged and abandoned his campaign. 42 years later, in a bitter letter

00:26:40.920 written after the Civil War had reduced him and his family to poverty, Randolph told how Virginia

00:26:45.160 had been inundated with an avalanche of abolitionist propaganda that revealed a morbid

00:26:49.560 hatred of the Southern white man and blackened his character with obscene malignity. Before long,

00:26:56.820 enraged Virginians would not tolerate a discussion of how to eliminate slavery because abolitionism

00:27:01.560 had become synonymous with hatred and contempt for their way of life, as well as a word that

00:27:06.160 stirred their deepest fear, a race war. William Lloyd Garrison wrote that, quote,

00:27:11.180 the spirit of Southern slavery is a spirit of extermination against all those who represent

00:27:15.040 it as a dishonor to our country, rebellion against God, and treason to the liberties of mankind.

00:27:20.800 Now, some of the irrational rage against the South wasn't even remotely related to slavery.

00:27:24.800 Fleming notes that the signing of the Louisiana Purchase in 1803 had enraged the Federalists,

00:27:29.040 who saw New England as the rightful center of power in the United States.

00:27:33.320 Senator Pickering of Massachusetts floated the idea that New England should secede from the Union

00:27:38.140 and align with Britain rather than be ruled by Southerners from Virginia like Jefferson.

00:27:44.200 And after all, Boston was supposed to be a city upon a hill watched by the world,

00:27:48.180 and the Southerners in the eyes of the North were interfering with their sacred destiny.

00:27:53.420 This was the kind of rhetoric that served as a very predictable prelude to John Brown's assault on Harpers Ferry, West Virginia.

00:28:02.900 And to be clear, and this is important, John Brown was not simply deranged, he was also a failure at everything he ever attempted in life.

00:28:10.520 He started several tanneries that collapsed, he went bankrupt multiple times, he invested in land that became worthless and refused to sell when given the chance to cut his losses.

00:28:19.040 He lost tens of thousands of dollars traveling all the way to London in search of cheaper wool, only to discover that the wool was even more expensive there.

00:28:26.680 He was sued in four states, lawsuits that ultimately cost him everything he owned.

00:28:30.640 What the abolitionists understood, and what the left understands today, is that perpetual failures like John Brown are the ideal terrorist recruit.

00:28:38.460 As the American Tribune puts a quote, there is a direct through line between John Brown's rise

00:28:43.640 out of the blood-drenched rhetoric of the radical abolitionist movement and the murderous race

00:28:48.320 communist left of today, which is trying to end America for good. All you have to do is take a 0.79

00:28:53.660 look at Antifa mugshots and you'll come to the same conclusion. Maybe you've seen some of these

00:28:59.700 highlights on social media. These are degenerates with no future and no desire to improve their

00:29:06.000 lives, the fact they're white, if anything, makes them more susceptible to the endless anti-white 0.99

00:29:12.060 racial propaganda that takes advantage of their own self-loathing and resentment. If there's any

00:29:17.180 redeeming characteristic these people generally share, it's that they're, you know, usually pretty 0.72

00:29:21.820 incompetent. This is Megan Basham of The Daily Wire inviting you to join me for the 2026 Issues

00:29:28.580 Etc. Making the Case conference Friday, June 12th and Saturday, June 13th at Concordia University,

00:29:35.740 Chicago. I'll be speaking and signing copies of my book, Shepherds for Sale, and joining me at

00:29:41.260 this annual conference for Christian laity are Molly Hemingway of The Federalist, Robert Spencer

00:29:46.860 of Jihad Watch, and Aaron Hawley of Alliance Defending Freedom. Learn more at issuesetc.org,

00:29:54.460 issuesetc.org. Now, John Brown made his incompetence clear within minutes of arriving

00:30:00.420 at Harpers Ferry in October of 1859, after his men kidnapped Colonel Lewis Washington,

00:30:06.700 the great-grandnephew of George Washington, among other notable civilians. Brown's first order was

00:30:11.720 to cut the telegraph lines running east to Washington and Baltimore and west to Ohio.

00:30:16.900 He wanted to isolate the federal arsenal to delay the arrival of reinforcements, and in the meantime, 0.77

00:30:21.580 supposedly, he'd grab all the weapons and distribute them to enslaved blacks and spark

00:30:26.500 a nationwide insurrection. Never mind the fact that without the telegraph lines, it'd be hard 0.78

00:30:30.740 to communicate the fact that he had taken over the arsenal. The plan immediately went wrong when a

00:30:35.760 train arrived from Virginia and Brown's men shot the station porter in the back when he refused to

00:30:41.400 stop and be taken hostage. The station porter was a free black man named Shepard Hayward, and he died

00:30:47.580 of his injuries after about 12 hours. Another early victim of the terrorists was the town's

00:30:53.140 mayor, Fontaine Beckham, who was shot unarmed. Beckham was known for his generosity towards

00:30:59.400 the town's free black community, which was one of the most prosperous in the South, owing to the

00:31:04.300 town's industrial facilities. The gunshots alerted everyone in Harper's Ferry to the attack. And in

00:31:09.800 the morning, churches all began ringing their bells, which was a coded message to the farmers

00:31:13.780 that a revolt was underway. And to make matters worse for Brown, he decided to let the train for

00:31:18.580 Virginia proceed to its destination. And of course, at the next stop, they telegraphed news

00:31:23.480 of the attack to the authorities. In the meantime, Brown did not arm any slaves, nor did he spread

00:31:28.680 news of his insurrection beyond Harper's Ferry. In fact, during the siege, he managed to lose some

00:31:34.600 of his followers when he acknowledged that he was committing treason. Two of his revolutionaries

00:31:38.660 quit on the spot because they were too dumb to realize that they had gotten themselves into 0.99

00:31:44.360 And that what they were doing was obviously treason. And in the end, after the town's militia neutralized several of Brown's troops, Brown's men, troops led by Robert E. Lee, stormed into the arsenal, rescued the hostages and killed or captured the remaining attackers. 0.84

00:31:59.020 This is from Smithsonian Magazine. Watch.

00:32:01.380 Very, very few slaves, very few participated.

00:32:07.720 Brown was quickly trapped in the fire engine house near the Federal Armory in Harpers Ferry.

00:32:16.120 There was, in the course of the day, a bitter fight, mostly sniping back and forth while

00:32:24.760 hundreds and hundreds of militia men cut off Brown and his men's only avenues of escape.

00:32:31.360 Brown and his men were holed up in a single room, very congested, crowded with the fire

00:32:37.320 engines, pumping wagons, a number of hostages, his own men wounded, dying.

00:32:45.000 He and his men became willing to martyr themselves.

00:32:50.480 Marines broke through the door to the engine house.

00:32:53.960 There was a melee inside.

00:32:55.940 Brown's men were killed.

00:32:57.880 who were captured were hanged later on, including Brown. Immediately after his death, he was

00:33:04.980 heroized, sanctified, really, by northern abolitionists. He terrified white Southerners.

00:33:13.840 Now, John Brown was hanged as a traitor, which he was. This is the traitor who, again, is honored 0.98

00:33:19.440 multiple times in the National Portrait Gallery, a guy who, once again, murdered innocent people. 0.74

00:33:27.880 who didn't do anything wrong, he's revered by the left to this day.

00:33:33.380 But as we just demonstrated, and as that historian implies,

00:33:37.940 they clearly don't revere him because of his clever strategic planning

00:33:41.040 or his rhetorical skills or his multiple bankruptcies.

00:33:45.360 That's not why the Weather Underground or the Black Panthers respected John Brown.

00:33:49.960 Instead, they revered John Brown because in the aftermath of the raid on Harper's Ferry,

00:33:55.240 whites in the South became justifiably terrified.

00:33:57.880 They realized that they couldn't share a country with people who wanted to murder them because of their skin color or their political beliefs. 0.74

00:34:06.300 They correctly saw John Brown's act of domestic terrorism as a prelude to a much broader race war, one that could easily transform Virginia into Haiti.

00:34:15.240 Thomas Nelson Page wrote that, quote,

00:34:16.940 The John Brown raid shocked Virginia from the Potomac to the North Carolina line.

00:34:21.680 It was a fire bell in the night.

00:34:23.080 Every man sprang to attention and every mother clutched her babe closer to her bosom.

00:34:27.880 And as the American Tribune points out, citing Virginia's Dabney quote,

00:34:31.140 the John Brown raid on Harper's Ferry in 1859 provided an ominous foretaste of coming events.

00:34:36.460 Brown's announced plan to free the slaves by organizing them into military units to fight their masters and establish a Negro republic in western Virginia,

00:34:45.140 roused the people of the old dominion to terror and fury and alarmed the entire South. 0.73

00:34:50.400 After the raid was crushed, Brown displayed another familiar pattern of the left.

00:34:56.060 he started lying to lay the groundwork for future violence. At his trial, Brown claimed that he did

00:35:01.160 not intend murder or treason or the destruction of property or even to excite or incite slaves

00:35:08.000 to rebellion. Basically, everyone was supposed to ignore the fact that he showed up at a peaceful

00:35:12.820 town and immediately began killing people, including unarmed people, taking civilians

00:35:17.140 hostage and gathering arms to launch a violent slave revolt. What Brown was actually doing was

00:35:22.180 a mostly peaceful protest, just like you saw during the Civil Rights Movement in 1960, just

00:35:27.460 like you saw in the 2020 summer of Floyd. Now, although no one in Virginia believed his lies,

00:35:33.820 Brown's courtroom speech, where he claimed he was just a peaceful protester, was uncritically

00:35:37.540 reprinted in Northern papers, creating the impression that Southern barbarians were

00:35:41.320 executing an innocent man, actually a lunatic previously known for dismembering innocent people

00:35:47.160 with a sword, and that they were doing this for, you know, because he was speaking out against

00:35:51.780 injustice. Now, if you were the Southerner watching this unfold, you must have thought that

00:35:56.280 abolitionists were living in a parallel universe that could justify doing anything against you at

00:36:01.140 all. One detail of the raid that really hammered this home was the presence of nearly 1,000

00:36:06.400 medieval pikes, which were custom designed to resemble Bowie knives that John Brown's

00:36:11.060 terrorists brought with them. They figured that it might be difficult to quickly teach freed

00:36:15.200 slaves how to use guns, but anyone can use that kind of brutal medieval weapon. After the Pikes 0.93

00:36:20.900 were seized following the raid's failure, one Southern pro-secession activist sent the heads

00:36:25.780 of the captured Pikes to every governor of a slave state. And the message was clear. Abolitionists

00:36:30.620 want to use this on you. They want to use this on your kids. Now, the outbreak of the Civil War 0.99

00:36:35.960 and its aftermath can only be understood with this context. Abolitionists worshiped John Brown

00:36:41.820 because he terrorized whites. They didn't care about his many monumental failures from a tactical

00:36:48.340 perspective. They understood that strategically. He had won. And that's why in a speech in Boston

00:36:53.320 in November 1859, the famous poet Ralph Waldo Emerson described Brown as an idealist who put

00:37:00.120 his ideas into action. And with that in mind, you can see why the Southern states began mobilizing

00:37:07.500 for war. They saw very clearly what was being planned and they acted in self-defense to prevent

00:37:12.480 another massacre. Now, just a couple of weeks after the raid, John Brown was convicted of all

00:37:17.440 charges. A month later, he became the first American to be executed for treason. In the 19th

00:37:22.940 century, we didn't have 50 years of appeals. We didn't let people go free because they were crazy 0.70

00:37:28.040 either. We just executed criminals. Imagine that. And after all this, after causing so much pain and 0.99

00:37:32.760 terror and drawing the nation into a civil war in which hundreds of thousands of Americans died,

00:37:36.420 But John Brown is one of the very few white men that our government, media, and education system go out of their way to worship.

00:37:46.440 Precisely what makes the mainstream admiration of John Brown so unsettling and bizarre, among other reasons, is that it's happening at a time when nearly every other white man of history has had their statues and memorials torn down.

00:37:59.620 I mean, you aren't allowed to uncritically celebrate almost any white man in history

00:38:06.580 anymore. Not George Washington, not Thomas Jefferson, not Christopher Columbus, nobody.

00:38:11.640 On the list of acceptable historical white men now is John Brown. And who else? Harvey Milk, 0.63

00:38:22.940 the pedophile? Justin Bieber? I don't know. It's not exactly a long list. To the extent 0.98

00:38:29.240 a white man is treated like a celebrity in our culture, it's because he promises to usher in a 0.94

00:38:33.040 new age of degeneracy and anti-white violence. That's really what it takes. That's how you get 0.92

00:38:39.000 PBS to air propaganda like this on your behalf. Watch. For years, John Brown had been trying to

00:38:45.760 divine God's purpose, to make sense of his afflictions. He had once been a successful

00:38:52.480 merchant and tanner a good provider to his family but then suddenly his life collapsed

00:39:02.880 a series of business disasters plunged him deep into debt most abolitionists for decades were

00:39:10.000 pacifists and believed in in in persuading people about the moral wrong of slavery um

00:39:16.320 John Brown didn't really believe that would work, and he put his life on the line.

00:39:22.560 Many people would call him a terrorist.

00:39:24.880 He attacked the Federal Armory at Harpers Ferry.

00:39:28.680 But in doing so, he actually became kind of a martyr for the cause

00:39:33.240 and rallied a lot of Northern support

00:39:36.180 and in many ways provoked what became a terrible conflict in the United States and the Civil War.

00:39:42.900 The question he was asking in his being, which was, to what extent is violence acceptable

00:39:54.820 or necessary for political change, is a question we have certainly asked throughout American

00:40:01.420 history.

00:40:04.340 The accounts of Brown all say how beguiling he was.

00:40:08.500 He's described often like iron or like granite.

00:40:12.480 had this steadfast quality. And I think when you read even the writings he left behind,

00:40:19.580 his letters and some of his unfinished autobiography, there was a sincerity and a

00:40:25.100 simplicity to him, an earnestness to him. So John Brown is a martyr for the cause. He rallied

00:40:31.040 Northern support. He's steadfast like iron or granite. He was sincere and earnest. He was

00:40:35.440 trying to divine God's purpose. He had been successful until for some reason his life

00:40:39.100 collapsed. There's no mention of the fact that John Brown butchered innocent white people or

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00:43:43.380 most Americans, if they knew the full story of terrorists like John Brown or the truth about

00:43:48.540 the Civil War and the Civil Rights Movement and so on, would go along with this effort.

00:43:54.760 Instead, what's happening is that through a campaign of mass deception that begins very

00:43:59.620 early in life, millions of Americans are being conditioned to adopt very irrational

00:44:04.800 and highly destructive beliefs about our history. Beliefs that are designed to lead

00:44:11.500 many people to commit acts of racial and political violence.

00:44:14.480 you know i i began making the real history documentaries back in january which you can

00:44:21.220 watch on the daily wire uh in order to counteract this information monopoly that that has been

00:44:27.880 enjoyed for decades exclusively by the left they have been the only ones telling the story of

00:44:35.440 american history basically and for that reason i'm going to keep making these documentaries for

00:44:41.380 as long as I can, because judging from the response we received, millions of people

00:44:45.700 want to hear the truth. If you can show people what the left's heroes actually did,

00:44:53.720 the horrors they inflicted, people will watch. They'll be horrified.

00:45:00.680 And they'll more likely turn away from leftism entirely. And for that reason, I'll close with

00:45:06.820 this. Before his execution, Brown received a letter from Mahala Doyle, the mother of the family

00:45:10.920 that Brown had massacred in Kansas, and here's the letter in its entirety. It's from Chattanooga,

00:45:18.460 Tennessee, 20th of November, 1859. It says, John Brown, sir, although vengeance is not mine,

00:45:24.720 I confess that I do feel gratified to hear that you were stopped in your fiendish career at

00:45:29.480 Harper's Ferry at the loss of your two sons. You can now appreciate my distress in Kansas

00:45:34.140 when you then and there entered my house at midnight and arrested my husband and two boys

00:45:38.740 and took them out of the yard and in cold blood shot them dead in my hearing.

00:45:42.900 You can't say you'd done it to free our slaves.

00:45:45.600 We had none and never expected to own one.

00:45:48.220 It has only made me a poor, disconsolate widow with helpless children

00:45:51.400 while I feel for your folly.

00:45:53.760 I do hope and trust that you will meet your just reward.

00:45:57.060 Well, how it pained my heart to hear the dying groans of my husband.

00:46:00.720 And children, if this scrawl give you any consolation, you are welcome to it.

00:46:05.820 And then noted on the back, it says,

00:46:07.020 My son, John Doyle, whose life I begged of you, has now grown up and is very desirous to be at Charleston on the day of your execution,

00:46:13.700 would certainly be there if his means would permit it, that he might adjust the rope around your neck if Governor Wise would permit it.

00:46:21.380 Mahalo Doyle.

00:46:23.280 Any society that valorizes men like John Brown while writing women like Mahalo Doyle out of history is doomed to failure.

00:46:30.300 This is why you have to look beyond the school textbooks and learn the truth about these idols that we've been told to worship and celebrate.

00:46:41.400 If we don't do that homework, then we aren't going to recognize when these same people and same tactics reappear today.

00:46:49.380 As then, to quote Thomas Fleming, we run the risk of succumbing to a disease of the public mind.

00:46:54.700 that's exactly what the people today celebrating john brown are hoping for

00:47:00.360 yes the honkies got him as shane gillis puts it and unless we want another civil war complete

00:47:07.720 with another massacre of innocent white people we should be grateful they did

00:47:12.280 that'll do it for the show today thanks for watching thanks for listening talk to you 0.97

00:47:17.060 tomorrow have a great day godspeed

00:47:25.500 Martin Luther King Jr. is an American icon,

00:47:28.220 widely considered one of the greatest Americans who ever lived.

00:47:31.660 A man who had a vision for a colorblind society, a post-racial America. 0.52

00:47:37.120 He had a dream, just not the dream you thought it was.

00:47:40.820 Were his true aims a colorblind society, or something far more radical?

00:47:45.560 Who bankrolled him?

00:47:47.160 What unfolded behind the scenes in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963?

00:47:50.980 Was civil disobedience actually peaceful?

00:47:54.700 We wanted to show you a clip of the I Have a Dream speech, but according to our lawyers,

00:48:00.580 we can't.

00:48:01.580 In fact, King's family has made a lot of money suing media outlets.

00:48:04.460 They want to silence critics like us.

00:48:06.980 What they're doing makes it very difficult to judge Martin Luther King Jr. not by the

00:48:10.500 color of his skin, but by the content of his character.

00:48:14.160 Is America today stronger, more unified, and racially equal than before King's rise?

00:48:20.300 These questions demand answers, and as Americans, we are entitled to a full accounting of the

00:48:24.540 civil rights movement and its consequences. King's movement fundamentally transformed

00:48:28.720 our country and our system of government. I speak as a citizen of the world. Each day

00:48:34.300 the war goes on, the hatred increases, though the cause of evil prosper.

00:48:40.160 First part of our two-part special on the civil rights movement,

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The Matt Walsh Show - May 12, 2026

Ep. 1778 - Meet The Domestic Terrorist Who Is Now Worshipped As A Hero

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