The Matt Walsh Show - January 22, 2019


Ep. 181 - Left Won't Stop Smearing Covington Catholic Students


Episode Stats

Length

39 minutes

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174.92557

Word Count

6,953

Sentence Count

426

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

The left is desperate to justify their smear of the Covington Catholic students, and now they ve invented another ridiculous accusation, and this one is even worse, even more dishonest than the first one. Also, Notre Dame is covering up some murals of Christopher Columbus, and we ll talk about why that is stupid and cowardly, and also counterproductive.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the left is so desperate to justify their smears of the Covington Catholic students
00:00:05.500 that now they've invented another ridiculous accusation, and this one is even worse, even more dishonest than the first one.
00:00:14.240 So we've got to talk about that.
00:00:15.400 Also, Notre Dame is going to be covering up some murals of Christopher Columbus.
00:00:20.360 We'll talk about why that is stupid and cowardly and also completely counterproductive.
00:00:25.360 And finally, I'll answer your emails today on the Matt Walsh Show.
00:00:30.000 Hello and welcome to the show, everybody.
00:00:36.180 Thanks for watching.
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00:00:55.860 So as we covered extensively yesterday, the left and the media utterly embarrassed itself with this Covington Catholic story.
00:01:04.220 They got played by Nathan Phillips, who is a liar and a fraud, tried to provoke an altercation with these students.
00:01:12.200 And when he failed, he decided to run to the media and lie about them, which he is still continuing to do, by the way.
00:01:17.000 He hasn't let off.
00:01:18.060 And we're going to get to that in a minute.
00:01:20.880 Now, they also, the left and the media, they believed and promoted a version of the story that entirely excluded the role that was played by the black Hebrew Israelites,
00:01:31.120 which are these crazy cultists who kicked everything off by verbally assaulting the boys and also random passersby and Native Americans.
00:01:40.300 They were just insulting everyone with racist, bigoted, anti-gay slurs.
00:01:47.240 But the left and the media just left them out of the story, didn't even mention that they were there.
00:01:52.080 And even now, as members of this school, as students at the school, kids, you know, 14, 15-year-old kids,
00:01:59.460 are, their faces and their names are being plastered everywhere.
00:02:02.480 Their biographies are being analyzed by the media.
00:02:06.060 Some of them are now household names.
00:02:09.640 And even now, the names of the black men who actually are guilty of harassment and abuse and are the ones who started all of this,
00:02:20.240 their names are unknown.
00:02:21.320 They remain anonymous.
00:02:22.740 Does anyone know what their names are?
00:02:25.520 Does anyone know anything about those guys?
00:02:28.440 No, because we're focusing all on these students who did nothing wrong.
00:02:34.500 All in all, the left and the media obviously botched the story.
00:02:39.160 But now, the facts have come out, right?
00:02:42.880 And we talked about this yesterday.
00:02:44.100 We got into what all the facts are.
00:02:46.180 The facts have come out.
00:02:47.420 The boys have been completely, conclusively vindicated.
00:02:53.780 We now have video evidence that shows exactly what happened.
00:02:57.140 And it does not line up with the story as it was first presented.
00:03:02.480 We know who the real culprits are now.
00:03:05.560 The culprits are the black Hebrew Israelites and also Nathan Phillips.
00:03:10.340 Those are the bad guys in this situation.
00:03:13.160 But still, even in spite of that, the left is clinging to its original narrative.
00:03:19.220 In the face of all the evidence to the contrary, in the face of the fact that they were clearly played by a con artist,
00:03:26.380 they still are clinging to it.
00:03:29.680 They're going to stick with their original version.
00:03:32.360 And now it's a game of just trying to kind of retroactively justify their treatment of these boys.
00:03:41.020 So what have they come up with?
00:03:43.380 As they've realized that the original story, well, that's not how it went.
00:03:46.580 So now they're trying to come up with other reasons to go after these kids.
00:03:52.680 And they've come up with a few reasons.
00:03:55.260 But here's the big one that you would have seen all over social media yesterday.
00:03:59.860 Um, now they're telling us that the Covington Catholic students once wore blackface to a basketball game
00:04:09.500 where they proceeded to harass the black players of the other team.
00:04:14.600 Now, once again, like we talked about yesterday, this accusation,
00:04:19.120 there should be just sort of an immediate smell test you can do with this sort of stuff.
00:04:24.080 And when you hear a story like that,
00:04:26.440 um, that they all wore blackface to a basketball game,
00:04:30.640 you should just, you should basically disregard it immediately.
00:04:34.720 Unless someone can provide you with conclusive evidence that that is exactly what happened.
00:04:40.640 Conclusive evidence in context.
00:04:42.540 And you look at the whole thing and you say, okay, well, that happened.
00:04:44.940 But in lieu of that, I mean, your, your first reaction should be,
00:04:49.320 okay, no, there's, there's no way that happened.
00:04:52.020 But you're telling me all these kids went to a basketball game in blackface.
00:04:56.340 Um, you, you should be able to do that.
00:04:59.100 The idea that a bunch of students would, would, would just randomly wear racist costumes to a basketball game.
00:05:05.600 And then the school would take pictures of it.
00:05:08.800 Now, the picture, which I'll show you in a minute of these kids allegedly wearing blackface.
00:05:13.740 This is a picture taken by the school.
00:05:16.780 So what the school all got together?
00:05:18.300 Hey, everybody, where are your racist costumes today?
00:05:20.880 We're going to take pictures, put it online.
00:05:24.240 Well, that's just not believable at all.
00:05:27.280 Um, it seems like something that's totally made up.
00:05:29.420 And it is.
00:05:30.080 Yet the left has been spreading this false story.
00:05:33.440 And now some, some, uh, news outlets have reported it.
00:05:37.440 So here's the, uh, the trash, worthless, garbage, rag, New York daily news.
00:05:43.320 Um, here's their headline.
00:05:45.500 Covington Catholic high school students in blackface at past basketball game.
00:05:50.240 So they're just putting it out there as a fact.
00:05:52.220 They're not even thrown in and allegedly, or some have reported or whatever.
00:05:57.080 This is just, they're saying it's blackface at a basketball game.
00:06:00.400 This is, um, this is just libel.
00:06:02.920 This is, they're defaming these, these kids.
00:06:05.100 This is a, a, a false story, a story that they know is false.
00:06:09.740 And, um, I can only hope that New York daily news is, um, is sued, uh, and, uh, run into,
00:06:17.820 into bankruptcy.
00:06:18.480 And I can tell you that the world would be better off without, I mean, the New York daily
00:06:22.980 news has never contributed anything of value, um, to the world or to journalism or anything.
00:06:29.300 But here's what they have to say.
00:06:30.340 They say, um, I'll read a little bit from this news article.
00:06:33.600 It says, this won't help Kentucky student, not Nick Sandman's case.
00:06:37.860 A photo said to be featuring Covington Catholic high school students clad in blackface during
00:06:42.700 a 2015 basketball game made the rounds on Twitter Monday morning amid last week's indigenous
00:06:47.640 people's marked controversy.
00:06:49.000 The photo depicts several white students, some in blackface, shouting at an opposing
00:06:55.800 black player.
00:06:57.260 While the photo's origins couldn't be verified, the official Covington Catholic high school
00:07:01.020 YouTube account published a video last January boasting its basketball school spirit and several
00:07:06.500 clips, including one from 2012, showcase attendees chanting in blackface.
00:07:12.440 A mockery of the opposing players.
00:07:15.200 So not only are they claiming that the students were in blackface, but they're claiming in this
00:07:21.720 news article that they're wearing blackface to mock the opposing player.
00:07:27.200 So they're, they've come up even with a, with a motivation behind this act, which they've
00:07:31.640 inserted as fact into their article.
00:07:35.460 Again, I mean, New York daily news needs to be sued into oblivion.
00:07:38.660 This is just, this is defamatory.
00:07:40.380 This is simply false.
00:07:44.580 So what is this all about?
00:07:47.560 Well, first of all, let's look at here's, here's, here's the picture in question.
00:07:51.920 Take a look at it right now.
00:07:54.000 So there it is.
00:07:56.660 So you notice how, you notice how everybody is in black, right?
00:08:00.420 Everyone's wearing black and then some are wearing black paint.
00:08:04.700 Others are in all black clothing.
00:08:08.260 So what was the point of that?
00:08:11.000 Was it, was it a wear your racist costume to the basketball day at Covington Catholic?
00:08:17.600 Which, which the school then videoed and put online proudly for everyone to see.
00:08:23.820 Like, hey guys, look at our racist event.
00:08:25.740 Come take a look at this.
00:08:26.860 This is great.
00:08:27.600 Look at our racism, folks.
00:08:28.920 Look at this.
00:08:30.140 Is that what happened?
00:08:32.660 Now, I don't doubt that leftists would actually believe that a Catholic school would do something
00:08:37.640 like that.
00:08:38.840 That there would be a Catholic school conspiring in a mass act of random racism.
00:08:44.380 But anyone with, say, a third of a functioning brain would, would know that that is completely
00:08:52.740 ridiculous and knows that there must be more to the story.
00:08:55.800 And there is.
00:08:56.800 So this is what's known as a blackout game.
00:08:59.800 Okay.
00:09:00.240 Many schools do this.
00:09:01.500 It's very common.
00:09:02.840 It happens all across the country.
00:09:04.720 Everybody wears black.
00:09:05.700 That's what a blackout game is.
00:09:06.940 That's all it is.
00:09:07.920 Everyone is just in the same color.
00:09:10.780 And then if you get the, if you get the bird's eye view of the stadium, or if you see everyone
00:09:15.040 sitting in the bleachers, it looks kind of cool that everyone is in, is in the same color.
00:09:19.220 Everyone's in black.
00:09:20.220 They also have whiteout games.
00:09:22.300 They have games where everyone wears blue.
00:09:25.160 Okay.
00:09:25.620 So, so that, that's it.
00:09:27.000 That's the whole story.
00:09:28.340 And if everyone wearing black is blackface, then I guess when they all wear white for a
00:09:32.640 whiteout game, it's whiteface.
00:09:34.460 And if they all wear blue, it's blueface.
00:09:36.140 Um, in other words, to call it blackface is a lie.
00:09:41.720 It is a libelous lie.
00:09:45.320 Why are they screaming at the black player?
00:09:47.800 Well, because it's a basketball game.
00:09:50.340 You drooling dimwits.
00:09:52.580 It's a basketball game.
00:09:54.420 That's what the home fans do at a game.
00:09:57.980 They yell and they taunt the opposing players, not because they're black, but because they're
00:10:02.220 the opposing player.
00:10:03.340 This is what the fans of the home team have done in every basketball and football and hockey
00:10:09.560 game that has ever been played anywhere on earth in history.
00:10:14.220 This is just what they do.
00:10:16.100 So all these people are looking at this picture and say, Oh my gosh, look at them yelling at
00:10:20.420 that player.
00:10:21.100 This is this.
00:10:22.080 I saw someone on Twitter said it was, um, I forget the phrase he used.
00:10:25.600 He said it was something like looking into the heart of evil or some phrase like that.
00:10:30.140 I mean, this is someone who apparently has never left their house, never turned on a
00:10:35.000 TV, um, never seen any sort of sporting event that they would see.
00:10:40.420 Well, look, they're, they're raising their, they appear to be taunting that player in a,
00:10:44.380 in a different colored Jersey.
00:10:46.220 No, this, I don't know.
00:10:48.260 Well, I never, you notice how, how leftists become these, um, sort of fainting.
00:10:54.160 Victorian era, um, uh, you know, damsels in distress so easily that it, it, I mean, usually
00:11:04.540 these are the, these are the people who have no problem with, uh, you know, vulgarity.
00:11:10.040 They have no problem with, I mean, they're the ones accusing everyone else of being Puritans,
00:11:14.840 but then they see something like this and they go, Oh my gosh, I can't believe it.
00:11:19.660 But it's, it's just, it's called, it's a, it's a sport.
00:11:24.680 Okay.
00:11:24.960 These are, these are, these are kids.
00:11:27.360 These are high school kids at a sport getting rowdy.
00:11:30.280 That's what they do.
00:11:33.360 You lying, lying frauds.
00:11:37.900 You, I mean, this whole thing makes me so angry because the lies are just so blatant.
00:11:44.620 They, I mean, and, and they know what they're doing.
00:11:48.160 These people know what they're doing.
00:11:49.880 This is not, they aren't, they aren't stupid.
00:11:52.700 Okay.
00:11:54.100 They aren't so stupid that they don't understand the concept of a high school basketball game
00:12:01.260 and what goes on at there.
00:12:02.740 They aren't so dumb that they don't understand the, the idea that sometimes everyone wears
00:12:07.900 the same color to a basketball game.
00:12:09.980 No, they aren't, I know I call them drooling dimwits, but actually I'm doing them a huge
00:12:14.220 favor with that.
00:12:14.940 I mean, that is a huge compliment because either they are drooling dimwits or they are despicable
00:12:21.080 evil people who are lying about these kids and trying to get them at a, at, at a minimum
00:12:29.280 expelled, if not killed, because these kids are getting death threats.
00:12:34.700 There are bomb threats going to the school.
00:12:36.740 And now you're jumping in with this lie as well.
00:12:40.020 So either you are a total moron or you are evil and you are trying to get these kids hurt
00:12:46.800 with a lie.
00:12:48.020 Those are the only two options.
00:12:49.260 There are no other options here at this point.
00:12:56.200 They know exactly what they're doing.
00:12:57.800 In the words of Marco Rubio, let's dispel with the fiction that they don't know what they're
00:13:02.280 doing.
00:13:02.560 They know exactly what they're doing.
00:13:03.880 By the way, um, speaking of bad people, uh, Nathan Phillips has, according to the Cincinnati
00:13:10.160 Inquirer has turned down an offer to, uh, sit down and meet with the students.
00:13:16.260 There's a local restaurant that had offered to have a kind of, um, break breaking bread
00:13:21.880 session between the two sides.
00:13:23.780 And Nathan Phillips said that, well, now's not the right time for that.
00:13:28.800 He's, he's, he's not going to do it.
00:13:29.820 But in the same interview, he did insinuate that now he would be possibly in favor of the
00:13:35.080 kids getting expelled.
00:13:36.700 He said, he said, you know, originally I wasn't, uh, paraphrasing, but he said, originally I wasn't,
00:13:41.260 I wasn't in favor of them getting expelled, but now I have to revisit that.
00:13:46.080 And, and of course he does want various staff to be fired.
00:13:50.220 So he wants the kids to be expelled.
00:13:51.600 He wants the staff to be fired.
00:13:53.680 Um, and, uh, this is the hero that the left has given us this Nathan Phillips character,
00:13:58.420 who again is a liar, a fraud and a bully who is, um, picking on these kids.
00:14:07.520 One other point to make here.
00:14:09.120 Um, the left, now I want you to, to remember something here, uh,
00:14:16.080 so we had this incident on Saturday, but think back to what happened last week and how the
00:14:23.700 left spent much of last week attacking Karen Pence because she got a job at a Christian school.
00:14:29.380 Then by the end of the week, um, expose Christian schools was a hashtag trending on Twitter because
00:14:38.120 he had the attacking Karen Pence for the Christian school and then hashtag expose Christian schools.
00:14:43.300 And this was just a hashtag where a bunch of people were complaining about Christian schools.
00:14:48.440 Um, and then on Saturday, a false narrative was quickly constructed claiming that a group
00:14:54.280 of students from a Catholic school harassed and taunted a native American man.
00:14:57.460 Now, I don't think that all of these events came together coincidentally.
00:15:05.040 It's very interesting that expose Christian schools.
00:15:07.680 That was the hashtag trending on Friday.
00:15:09.780 And then the thing happens on Saturday.
00:15:11.620 So if you go and you check that hashtag now, you're going to see a whole bunch of tweets
00:15:14.980 about Covington because the hashtag fits in really nicely with this story, except the
00:15:21.560 hashtag came along before the story.
00:15:25.480 Uh, we have, as I wrote last week, we have officially entered a new phase of the culture war
00:15:30.380 and gone officially are the days when leftists pretend to see religion as this sort of thing
00:15:36.400 that should be relegated to homes and churches and private schools.
00:15:40.380 Um, that was a very small amount of extremely limited and qualified tolerance that they had.
00:15:48.000 And that is now gone.
00:15:49.580 They will not tolerate Christianity in any form, in any forum, especially a private school.
00:15:55.520 So if you go and you look at that hashtag that I was talking about, it is filled with open,
00:16:00.600 unapologetic hatred for Christian schools as an institution, for the very idea of Christian
00:16:07.580 schools.
00:16:08.260 This is the pattern with the left.
00:16:11.200 Um, this is sort of the trajectory, I should say, but the pattern is very interesting.
00:16:18.060 Um, you know, they, maybe you've noticed this, but they tend to find these perfectly timed real
00:16:25.740 world examples to demonstrate whatever point they were already making.
00:16:29.540 Have you noticed that?
00:16:30.960 So think about in the wake of Donald Trump's election, um, they, they, uh, were wringing
00:16:36.860 their hands and saying that this is going to embolden racists and bigots and there's going
00:16:41.500 to be hate crimes and everything.
00:16:42.640 Um, and just like that reports of hate crimes come pouring in.
00:16:47.900 And so for the first few months after Donald Trump's election, you're just, you were hearing
00:16:51.360 about these hate crime reports all the time.
00:16:52.760 Now, of course, many of those hate crimes proved to be hoaxes, but that's a minor detail as
00:16:57.960 far as the left concerned.
00:16:59.200 And then think about Ferguson, you know, Ferguson happened and, uh, uh, we were told that white
00:17:06.640 supremacist police officers are on the prowl, you know, hunting down innocent black men.
00:17:13.320 And just like that, high profile cases of police brutality presented themselves.
00:17:18.800 And it was just this rash of, of, um, of cases like this.
00:17:23.320 And there were riots across the country and all these differences.
00:17:25.540 It was one city after another, one incident after another.
00:17:29.580 Now, again, many of those cases were not legitimate examples of police brutality, but the truth
00:17:35.180 or falsehood of the case is irrelevant to leftists, obviously.
00:17:39.160 And then this week we were told that Christian schools are nests of bigotry and intolerance.
00:17:45.600 And then what do you know, video surfaces of kids at a Christian school verbally assaulting
00:17:50.420 a native American man.
00:17:51.440 I mean, they couldn't have scripted it any better, could they?
00:17:53.980 Now, I'm not suggesting that this is all part of some sort of coordinated master plan.
00:18:02.720 I don't think that these incidents are all engineered by some shadowy, devious figure behind
00:18:09.200 the scenes who's sitting behind a big oak desk, stroking his white cat, you know, and plotting,
00:18:14.300 um, all of these various scenarios, the, the conspiracy, if we can call it that is much
00:18:21.980 less cinematic in scope and much less dramatic and involves very little actual conspiring because
00:18:30.300 the media is already on the same page.
00:18:32.820 There is no need for them to have a meeting and get together and say, Hey, you know, we've
00:18:37.080 been talking about this.
00:18:38.020 Now let's go find an example.
00:18:39.560 Um, they don't need to say that out loud.
00:18:41.220 It's just kind of understood that that's what they're going to do.
00:18:44.680 They decide what sort of events, what sort of incidents will be reported and then which
00:18:50.220 elements of those incidents and events will be highlighted.
00:18:55.560 So then something like the Covington Catholic story is seized upon and exploited and retroactively,
00:19:03.820 um, kind of, uh, molded to fit with the narrative that they'd already established.
00:19:11.220 Um, that's, that's the way this works.
00:19:17.800 Now, if the media and the left had not already been hammering on this point about Christian
00:19:25.700 schools, then it's possible that this thing that happened in DC wouldn't have gotten as
00:19:30.580 much attention or wouldn't have gotten any attention.
00:19:32.280 And obviously if, you know, if you change the demographics around, um, and it doesn't feature
00:19:38.440 white males, then it would have gotten no attention whatsoever.
00:19:42.760 But it just so happens that it, it, it fits so perfectly with what they were talking about.
00:19:46.980 At least if you take it out of context and you lie about certain elements of the story,
00:19:50.780 certain crucial elements, then it fits so well.
00:19:53.200 So that's why they took it and they, they fit it in.
00:19:55.820 Um, so it's not that this, that Nathan Phillips was conspiring with, you know, um, George Soros
00:20:05.260 or something.
00:20:05.720 And then, and you know, this was all, this, it's more, this is just something that happened
00:20:09.400 and the left and the media knew what to do with it.
00:20:13.140 They took it and they fit it into what they were already talking about.
00:20:15.240 But there's always a point, okay.
00:20:17.900 With, with these narratives and these themes when they hammer on them and the left has not
00:20:22.840 gone through the trouble of painting Christian schools as dangerous hate factories for no
00:20:27.620 reason.
00:20:28.040 They intend to do something with it.
00:20:30.260 Okay.
00:20:30.540 They're going to, they're going to use the fruits of their labor, um, to some end.
00:20:36.140 And that end, I think will become very clear, um, very soon.
00:20:41.260 Okay.
00:20:41.740 Now, before we get to, um, emails, I want to mention this from ABC news, the university
00:20:48.080 of Notre Dame will cover murals in a campus building that depicts Christopher Columbus
00:20:52.660 in America.
00:20:53.220 The school's president said following criticism that the images depict native Americans in
00:20:57.220 stereotypical submissive poses before white European explorers.
00:21:00.840 Um, the 12 murals were created in the 1880s, uh, by Louise Grigori, um, and they were intended
00:21:08.440 to encourage immigrants who had come to the U S during a period of anti-Catholic
00:21:11.500 sentiment, but they conceal another side of Columbus, the exploitation and repression
00:21:15.300 of native Americans, according to the Reverend John Jenkins, president of Notre Dame.
00:21:19.680 Um, so they're going to cover up these.
00:21:21.420 Now here's, here's what's going to be, and I, and I just want to mention this because this
00:21:24.220 is just so emblematic of, uh, of the way that cowardly Christians deal with things these
00:21:32.000 days.
00:21:32.160 So what he's doing is, uh, he's not getting rid of the murals, uh, which again, this is,
00:21:39.360 this is art, um, made in the, in the 19th century for, for Notre Dame given to them.
00:21:47.360 And, um, so he's not going to just throw them away.
00:21:49.780 Instead, he's going to cover the murals.
00:21:52.000 And he indicated that sometimes maybe for, he would uncover them on certain occasions.
00:21:56.540 And then eventually they'll find somewhere else on the campus to put the murals.
00:22:00.180 So they're not getting rid of them or put them somewhere else.
00:22:02.380 So what he's done here, and this is, this is just what cowardly Christians always do.
00:22:08.000 He's come up with a compromise that actually satisfies no one.
00:22:12.980 So he's caving to pressure from, from the left, um, from society, from the world.
00:22:20.420 He's caving to the pressure, but he's not even doing what they want.
00:22:25.120 So they're still going to be mad at him.
00:22:26.900 And then meanwhile, um, those who don't want him to cave are also going to be mad.
00:22:31.700 So he's just upset everyone and accomplished nothing.
00:22:36.700 This is what happens when you start trying to compromise and you give up on your principles
00:22:41.060 and you start caving and surrendering and everything.
00:22:43.620 It's, you're, you're not even going to satisfy the people who are coming after you.
00:22:47.360 The people who you are bowing before and saying, oh yes, yes, please, please.
00:22:52.240 Oh, Matt, dear master, master, the people that you're doing that to, they're not going to
00:22:56.840 be happy.
00:22:59.160 So you just end up, you end up with a, it's a lose, lose.
00:23:04.240 Meanwhile, this, I'm not going to get off on another tangent about Christopher Columbus,
00:23:08.580 but, uh, as someone who's actually read about him and studied Columbus, I still find him to
00:23:15.140 be one of the great, one of the great men of, of Western civilization, obviously one of the
00:23:22.620 pioneers and initial builders of Western civilization, not a perfect man, a complex man and men who
00:23:32.320 did great things at any point in history, but especially back, uh, back in those days,
00:23:39.720 the great men who did great things and accomplished great, they were always complex.
00:23:43.700 They always had sides to them that were, um, less, shall we say, savory.
00:23:50.320 And part of that is because if, if you, if you wanted to get on a ship with a bunch of other
00:23:56.620 guys and sail across uncharted waters and go to this, um, unknown wilderness and try to
00:24:05.460 build a civilization from scratch, which is something that none of us, we can't even conceive
00:24:11.480 of that. None of, none of us have ever done that or ever seen that happen. We can't even
00:24:15.940 wrap our minds around what that even entails to get on a ship with a bunch of supplies and then say,
00:24:24.080 you know, we're going to just sail and hope that we find land and we're going to build a
00:24:27.400 civilization. How about that? Um, none of us can even, I mean, all the people that sit there and
00:24:31.900 say, well, he shouldn't have done it that way. Well, he shouldn't have done that,
00:24:34.340 that part right there. That was no good. Uh, meanwhile, none of us, we can't even find our
00:24:38.940 local Rite Aid without a, without a GPS and we're sitting here criticizing. But, um, in,
00:24:44.940 in order to do that, you had to have certain characteristics and you also had to be a very
00:24:50.780 harsh and severe sort of man and, and, and also brutal. Um, it was kind of necessary. Now that
00:24:58.760 doesn't excuse, uh, the bad things that Columbus did or the bad things that anyone did throughout
00:25:05.100 history, but it does put it within a certain context that if you want to be an intelligent
00:25:11.040 person and you want to study history and you want to have a mature perspective on history and not a
00:25:16.240 childish one, then you have to understand the context. But one way or another, uh, Christopher
00:25:24.680 Columbus, the early explorers, discoverers, pioneers, settlers, these are the people who built the
00:25:30.940 civilization that you and I now live in. And we are enjoying the fruits of their labor.
00:25:36.680 We are feasting on the banquet that they provided us. And even as we do that, like brats, we sit and
00:25:45.060 we whine about them and complain and insult them. Well, you know, I know it's a cliche to say,
00:25:50.440 if you don't like it, get out of America. But sometimes I think that response is, um,
00:25:56.260 wholly appropriate. And I think it goes, I think it applies to this. Unless, unless you're a hypocrite
00:26:01.720 or an intellectual coward, if you really think that, um, that our civilization is built fundamentally
00:26:08.980 on genocide and evil and slavery and all these things, if that's really what you think, and you
00:26:14.160 think we have no right to even be here and we stole all this land and we're thieves and criminals and
00:26:19.320 everything, then you should leave. Uh, for you to think that and yet stay here and benefit from the
00:26:26.880 privileges that those genocidal maniacs gave you, that makes you just incomprehensibly cowardly.
00:26:35.120 If you really feel that way, then you must leave and go live somewhere else. I really mean that.
00:26:41.140 You, you have to, you can't possibly stay here while thinking that it would be like, if, um,
00:26:50.200 if your, if your friend invited you over for a house party and then you, you, you come into the
00:26:55.700 house and you say, wow, this is a really nice house, a great party. And he's giving you a feast
00:26:58.840 and then you find out and you say, when did you buy this house? And your friend says to you,
00:27:03.600 oh, you know, no, there was another family living here. And, uh, actually I just, I just came in
00:27:07.160 and killed all of them and, um, they're buried out back. But anyway, uh, the fruit punch is in
00:27:11.320 the kitchen. Now, if your friend said that to you, you would leave the house, right? You wouldn't
00:27:15.700 just say, oh, okay, well, you know what? I disapprove, but, uh, let me go get some of that
00:27:20.000 fruit punch. You wouldn't do that. You would leave the house and then you would call the police,
00:27:23.760 right? Now, I don't think that that analogy is at all similar to what, um, the early settlers
00:27:31.160 and explorers did. But the point is liberals, that is how they think of it. They think it's exactly
00:27:36.220 like that. Yet they're staying in the house party. Cowards.
00:27:44.520 Okay. Um, now to the inbox, if you want to send a message to the show, ask a question,
00:27:49.760 offer a comment, um, compliment me, insult me, uh, or anything else you can email
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00:28:01.880 hold of me through Facebook and Twitter and a million other means, but I'm trying to consolidate
00:28:04.860 things here. So as best I can, um, from Andy, he says, uh,
00:28:14.420 I lost that one. Justin writes, your, uh, your number two next to Ben in my daily subscription,
00:28:21.580 sometimes a better show than his even. I hope he's paying you well. Watch out, Michael Knowles.
00:28:26.180 Thank you, Justin. My, um, my great goal in life is to be second place. So I appreciate that. No,
00:28:32.220 I do appreciate it. Thank you. Um, from Logan, what does the left have correct that the right
00:28:38.560 is failing to understand? That is a great, great question. What does the left have correct that the
00:28:44.660 right is failing to understand? I like that question. I think there's a big one. I've talked
00:28:48.880 about this before. Uh, they understand, I think what, what sorts of issues will fire people up
00:28:56.020 and motivate people. Um, they know how to get to people's hearts and to, to win hearts.
00:29:02.720 And they know that you need to win the heart first and then the mind it's heart than mind,
00:29:06.500 right? Which, as I pointed out, is something that conservatives tend to not understand. So
00:29:12.520 conservatives will go on and on about things like tax policy and jobs and so on, which are important,
00:29:19.660 obviously, but you're not going to build movements around them. Um, at least not these days, you won't
00:29:26.180 even something like immigration. Okay. Really important issue, uh, an issue that lots of people care about
00:29:32.220 obviously. And for good reason, but I'll tell you this, if you had a march on Washington
00:29:37.780 for or against illegal immigration, you're not going to get even a fraction of what the March
00:29:44.280 for Life gets every single year. Okay. The March for Life pulls three, 400, 500,000 people. You're
00:29:50.680 not going to get those, those kinds of numbers for an immigration March. You just won't. I mean,
00:29:55.120 you might get a thousand, 10,000, maybe if you promote it really well because abortion, you know,
00:30:03.080 the social issues, the cultural issues, these are the issues that have, that are, that
00:30:07.000 speak to people at the most intrinsic kind of level. Um, and they have a very deep philosophical
00:30:15.100 dimension to them because they get down to the meaning and purpose of life and of society and
00:30:21.780 of human existence. And so those are, those are the questions that we all think about. Those are
00:30:26.620 the things we care about. Those are the things that we order our lives around, right? Um, you know,
00:30:31.560 there are many pro-lifers who have, who have ordered their life around their conviction that
00:30:36.960 life is sacred and valuable and that abortion is horrible and needs to be outlawed. There are not
00:30:41.420 as many people who have centered their life around immigration, although there are some who specialize
00:30:46.700 in that issue, but not nearly as many. Um, because these are the most fundamental, most important,
00:30:54.380 most central kinds of issues. And this is where our primary focus should be. Liberals understand that.
00:30:59.140 And that's why they've been so effective in, um, in, you know, claiming the culture for themselves.
00:31:08.260 Notice, by the way, how long it took, just as an example, notice how long it took conservatives to,
00:31:12.080 to figure out that this gender stuff, transgenderism and all that, notice how long it took them to
00:31:17.660 figure out that this was something they needed to pay attention to. I remember when I was writing my,
00:31:21.000 my book, um, The Unholy Trinity, which you can find in bookstores today or on Amazon.
00:31:26.340 And I, I talked a lot about transgenderism in that, in that book. And I remember I was pitching
00:31:31.220 that to the publisher and the publisher told me when I was originally talking about the book with
00:31:34.300 them, they said, um, they said, well, yeah, but the transgenderism thing, I mean, are people really
00:31:38.240 going to care about that by the time the book comes out? And I said, yeah, they're going to care
00:31:42.960 about, care about it. This is, this is a, this is an issue now. This is a thing people care about.
00:31:47.480 Um, and it just took conservatives a long time to figure that out. Um, Aaron writes,
00:31:55.080 Matt, I agree with you about the Covington Catholic situation, but here's my thing.
00:31:58.380 The response from church leadership has been terrible. My own diocese denounced the boys as
00:32:03.620 soon as it happened. Uh, I've seen many, uh, priests and bishops on social media denouncing them too.
00:32:09.960 This seems like total cowardice to me. What do you think? I think you said it well, Aaron. And I
00:32:16.800 totally agree with you. Joe says, I don't understand what you're about or why anyone cares what you
00:32:21.800 think. Why did the daily wire feel the need to hire an apocalyptic preacher? You're like a hipster
00:32:27.640 John the Baptist. And I don't mean that as a compliment. I only want to hear about Ben Shapiro.
00:32:33.420 I don't care about you. Well, Joe, you don't mean that as a compliment, but I actually take it as
00:32:39.180 one, a hipster, John the Baptist. I, you know, I don't think I'm a hipster, but I love it. I think
00:32:42.820 I might have to put that on my Twitter bio. Um, from William, he says, Matt, have you heard of
00:32:48.220 the economic school of thought known as distributism? Thomas E. Woods Jr. of the Mises
00:32:52.740 Institute describes distributists as believing that social system is best in which productive
00:32:57.900 property is widely dispersed rather than concentrated. GK Chesterton, perhaps the most well-known and
00:33:02.480 respected advocate of distributism famously said too much capitalism does not mean too many
00:33:06.860 capitalists, but too few. Proponents of the Austrian and Chicago schools of economics usually
00:33:11.360 criticize distributists of trying to sneak in socialism to the back door because of their
00:33:15.700 insistence that as many workers as possible ought to own the means of their own labor.
00:33:20.600 Um, thus, uh, and then he asks, what do you make of distributism? Thanks for that, William. I,
00:33:29.360 I'm a little familiar with distributism. I love Chesterton. And so anything he says,
00:33:33.560 I think should be taken seriously. I think the comparison to socialism is off base because the
00:33:38.620 point of distributism is precisely to make sure that everyone owns property. Private property is
00:33:44.980 the point private ownership. Um, and that is not communal ownership, but actual private owner as an
00:33:52.480 actual individuals owning their own land and their own means of production. Now I think of this as less
00:33:58.640 of an economic system is more and more of sort of a philosophical, more of a philosophy.
00:34:04.100 Chesterton's point, I think is that the, the best thing, the most moral, the most human
00:34:09.560 thing is for everyone to own something, to own land, own means of production, not own as a community,
00:34:16.140 not own as a state or through the state, but actually own for themselves privately.
00:34:22.040 And I think Chesterton was horrified by a world where so few people actually owned anything. And he
00:34:27.480 thought, well, that's just, that's not human. Humans should own things. The prop, and I agree
00:34:32.240 with that. The problem of course, is that there's no way to get to there with everybody owning their
00:34:39.320 own chunk of, uh, of land and their own means of production. There's no way to get there from where
00:34:44.000 we are without the government confiscating everything and then, and then kind of, um, redistributing
00:34:50.820 it as they see fit, which, which obviously would be insane and terrible and cataclysmic
00:34:55.180 and tyrannical and awful. So there's no way anyone could support that. And there's no way
00:34:59.000 it would ever happen. But look, here's what I'll say about the distributed. If, um, and I think that
00:35:05.060 this is not a far-fetched scenario, if the whole world comes crumbling down and there's some sort
00:35:08.780 of apocalyptic event and civilization is, is, uh, reduced to ash and then a few survivors are left
00:35:16.540 and we're looking at rebuilding society, rebuilding civilization, and we all get together and we say,
00:35:21.600 what sort of economic system should we start with? I think then starting from scratch,
00:35:27.400 maybe you could look at the distributism as a model. Um, Tyson says, Hey Matt, I'll keep this
00:35:33.740 short at school. My history teacher is very left leaning and we've been discussing illegal,
00:35:38.140 illegal immigration. I am in full support of the wall and trying to minimize these people from
00:35:42.120 coming into our country. Every time the topic comes up, his argument or deflection, when I state
00:35:46.420 my opinion is always, well, did your family come here legally? And I honestly do not know the answer
00:35:51.140 to that question. I am wondering what a good response to combat the question is instead of
00:35:55.060 leaving me stuck. Um, Tyson, the first answer is that it's irrelevant. Even if you're, even if your
00:36:00.680 family did come here illegally, uh, which, I mean, I assume, you know, if they did or didn't,
00:36:07.100 um, but whether they did or that's got nothing to do with the issue. The issue is whether or not
00:36:15.140 we should protect the border, whether or not we should have immigration laws.
00:36:18.700 So when someone says, well, what about you? What did you do? What, what about your family?
00:36:24.180 It, okay. That, that can, that can speak to your own personal credibility or whatever,
00:36:29.080 maybe, but it has nothing to do with the issue. So even if somebody could, could prove that you're
00:36:34.760 a hypocrite, that doesn't mean that you're wrong about what you're saying. So that's a way, that is
00:36:38.100 a way of deflecting. It's a way of not engaging with the argument. So the first thing I would say
00:36:41.620 when your teacher says that is, okay, you know, I don't know about my family, but can we stick to the
00:36:45.620 issue? Can you stop deflecting from the issue? Let's talk about the issue. And, uh, and secondly,
00:36:52.500 this idea that, um, that we're all, you know, ancestors of illegal immigrants is of course,
00:36:59.860 ridiculous and false. Uh, and you know, there are, you know, my, my family came here, I don't know,
00:37:07.240 70 years ago, they came here legally. So the claim just doesn't make any sense to begin with.
00:37:11.360 Um, Alison writes, Matt, I go to CPAC every year and I always expect you to be there,
00:37:17.360 but you never are. Will you be there this year? Will you be speaking? Well, Alison,
00:37:21.000 I'd love to be at CPAC, but I've never been invited. Sniff, tear. Uh, but I mean, if you
00:37:27.680 really wanted me to speak at CPAC, which again, I'd love to do, you could always reach out to CPAC
00:37:31.220 on Twitter and say, Hey, uh, invite Matt Walsh or something. I don't know. I mean, it's something
00:37:35.160 that you could do if you really wanted to. Finally, Max says, Matt, your comment that LeBron James is the
00:37:41.220 best basketball player of all time was insane. Have you ever heard of Michael Jordan? Never lost
00:37:45.280 a finals end of discussion. Well, that's not the end of discussion. Michael Jordan was in the league
00:37:49.700 for, I think 16 years. He only went to the finals six times. That means that he missed the finals
00:37:53.840 10 times. LeBron James has been in the league, I think also for 16 years. And he's on, he's on his
00:37:59.460 16th year. I believe he's been to the finals nine times already. So, um, this idea that we're giving
00:38:04.100 Jordan credit for losing before the finals. Oh, he was undefeated in the finals. He missed it 10
00:38:09.760 times. He lost. You know why he was undefeated? Because he lost before he got to the finals 10
00:38:15.580 times. How is that better? How is it more clutch to lose before the finals than to lose in the finals?
00:38:22.660 That doesn't make any sense. And of course, when you're doing with a finals record thing,
00:38:26.800 um, you're not factoring in number one in 2007, LeBron James went to the finals and he dragged a team
00:38:33.180 that without him would not even have sniffed the playoffs and he dragged them on his own to the
00:38:40.100 finals. The fact that he lost there is irrelevant. Just making it is one of the most impressive feats
00:38:45.220 in, in modern sports history. And then also, uh, LeBron James has three times played the best team in
00:38:52.240 the history of the game. Uh, Jordan never played a team like the Warriors. Never. He never played a team
00:38:59.760 that having the Warriors have three of the best scorers in the league on the same team. And, uh,
00:39:07.620 Jordan never played a team quite like that. So I still say that LeBron James, the best basketball
00:39:13.520 player of all time. Thanks for watching everybody. We'll, we'll leave it there. Thanks for listening.
00:39:18.680 Talk to you tomorrow. Goodbye. And Godspeed.
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