The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 181 - Left Won't Stop Smearing Covington Catholic Students

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the left is so desperate to justify their smears of the Covington Catholic students 0.88

00:00:05.500 that now they've invented another ridiculous accusation, and this one is even worse, even more dishonest than the first one. 0.55

00:00:14.240 So we've got to talk about that. 0.72

00:00:15.400 Also, Notre Dame is going to be covering up some murals of Christopher Columbus. 0.99

00:00:20.360 We'll talk about why that is stupid and cowardly and also completely counterproductive. 0.98

00:00:25.360 And finally, I'll answer your emails today on the Matt Walsh Show. 0.98

00:00:30.000 Hello and welcome to the show, everybody.

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00:00:55.860 So as we covered extensively yesterday, the left and the media utterly embarrassed itself with this Covington Catholic story. 0.93

00:01:04.220 They got played by Nathan Phillips, who is a liar and a fraud, tried to provoke an altercation with these students. 0.79

00:01:12.200 And when he failed, he decided to run to the media and lie about them, which he is still continuing to do, by the way. 0.95

00:01:17.000 He hasn't let off.

00:01:18.060 And we're going to get to that in a minute.

00:01:20.880 Now, they also, the left and the media, they believed and promoted a version of the story that entirely excluded the role that was played by the black Hebrew Israelites, 0.95

00:01:31.120 which are these crazy cultists who kicked everything off by verbally assaulting the boys and also random passersby and Native Americans. 0.99

00:01:40.300 They were just insulting everyone with racist, bigoted, anti-gay slurs. 0.99

00:01:47.240 But the left and the media just left them out of the story, didn't even mention that they were there.

00:01:52.080 And even now, as members of this school, as students at the school, kids, you know, 14, 15-year-old kids,

00:01:59.460 are, their faces and their names are being plastered everywhere.

00:02:02.480 Their biographies are being analyzed by the media.

00:02:06.060 Some of them are now household names. 0.82

00:02:09.640 And even now, the names of the black men who actually are guilty of harassment and abuse and are the ones who started all of this,

00:02:20.240 their names are unknown. 0.85

00:02:21.320 They remain anonymous.

00:02:22.740 Does anyone know what their names are?

00:02:25.520 Does anyone know anything about those guys?

00:02:28.440 No, because we're focusing all on these students who did nothing wrong.

00:02:34.500 All in all, the left and the media obviously botched the story.

00:02:39.160 But now, the facts have come out, right?

00:02:42.880 And we talked about this yesterday.

00:02:44.100 We got into what all the facts are.

00:02:46.180 The facts have come out.

00:02:47.420 The boys have been completely, conclusively vindicated.

00:02:53.780 We now have video evidence that shows exactly what happened.

00:02:57.140 And it does not line up with the story as it was first presented.

00:03:02.480 We know who the real culprits are now. 0.66

00:03:05.560 The culprits are the black Hebrew Israelites and also Nathan Phillips. 0.96

00:03:10.340 Those are the bad guys in this situation. 0.96

00:03:13.160 But still, even in spite of that, the left is clinging to its original narrative.

00:03:19.220 In the face of all the evidence to the contrary, in the face of the fact that they were clearly played by a con artist,

00:03:26.380 they still are clinging to it.

00:03:29.680 They're going to stick with their original version.

00:03:32.360 And now it's a game of just trying to kind of retroactively justify their treatment of these boys.

00:03:41.020 So what have they come up with?

00:03:43.380 As they've realized that the original story, well, that's not how it went.

00:03:46.580 So now they're trying to come up with other reasons to go after these kids.

00:03:52.680 And they've come up with a few reasons.

00:03:55.260 But here's the big one that you would have seen all over social media yesterday.

00:03:59.860 Um, now they're telling us that the Covington Catholic students once wore blackface to a basketball game

00:04:09.500 where they proceeded to harass the black players of the other team.

00:04:14.600 Now, once again, like we talked about yesterday, this accusation,

00:04:19.120 there should be just sort of an immediate smell test you can do with this sort of stuff.

00:04:24.080 And when you hear a story like that,

00:04:26.440 um, that they all wore blackface to a basketball game,

00:04:30.640 you should just, you should basically disregard it immediately.

00:04:34.720 Unless someone can provide you with conclusive evidence that that is exactly what happened.

00:04:40.640 Conclusive evidence in context.

00:04:42.540 And you look at the whole thing and you say, okay, well, that happened.

00:04:44.940 But in lieu of that, I mean, your, your first reaction should be,

00:04:49.320 okay, no, there's, there's no way that happened.

00:04:52.020 But you're telling me all these kids went to a basketball game in blackface. 0.91

00:04:56.340 Um, you, you should be able to do that.

00:04:59.100 The idea that a bunch of students would, would, would just randomly wear racist costumes to a basketball game.

00:05:05.600 And then the school would take pictures of it.

00:05:08.800 Now, the picture, which I'll show you in a minute of these kids allegedly wearing blackface.

00:05:13.740 This is a picture taken by the school.

00:05:16.780 So what the school all got together?

00:05:18.300 Hey, everybody, where are your racist costumes today?

00:05:20.880 We're going to take pictures, put it online.

00:05:24.240 Well, that's just not believable at all.

00:05:27.280 Um, it seems like something that's totally made up.

00:05:29.420 And it is.

00:05:30.080 Yet the left has been spreading this false story.

00:05:33.440 And now some, some, uh, news outlets have reported it. 1.00

00:05:37.440 So here's the, uh, the trash, worthless, garbage, rag, New York daily news. 0.99

00:05:43.320 Um, here's their headline. 1.00

00:05:45.500 Covington Catholic high school students in blackface at past basketball game.

00:05:50.240 So they're just putting it out there as a fact.

00:05:52.220 They're not even thrown in and allegedly, or some have reported or whatever.

00:05:57.080 This is just, they're saying it's blackface at a basketball game.

00:06:00.400 This is, um, this is just libel.

00:06:02.920 This is, they're defaming these, these kids.

00:06:05.100 This is a, a, a false story, a story that they know is false.

00:06:09.740 And, um, I can only hope that New York daily news is, um, is sued, uh, and, uh, run into,

00:06:17.820 into bankruptcy.

00:06:18.480 And I can tell you that the world would be better off without, I mean, the New York daily

00:06:22.980 news has never contributed anything of value, um, to the world or to journalism or anything.

00:06:29.300 But here's what they have to say.

00:06:30.340 They say, um, I'll read a little bit from this news article.

00:06:33.600 It says, this won't help Kentucky student, not Nick Sandman's case.

00:06:37.860 A photo said to be featuring Covington Catholic high school students clad in blackface during

00:06:42.700 a 2015 basketball game made the rounds on Twitter Monday morning amid last week's indigenous

00:06:47.640 people's marked controversy.

00:06:49.000 The photo depicts several white students, some in blackface, shouting at an opposing

00:06:55.800 black player.

00:06:57.260 While the photo's origins couldn't be verified, the official Covington Catholic high school

00:07:01.020 YouTube account published a video last January boasting its basketball school spirit and several

00:07:06.500 clips, including one from 2012, showcase attendees chanting in blackface.

00:07:12.440 A mockery of the opposing players.

00:07:15.200 So not only are they claiming that the students were in blackface, but they're claiming in this

00:07:21.720 news article that they're wearing blackface to mock the opposing player.

00:07:27.200 So they're, they've come up even with a, with a motivation behind this act, which they've

00:07:31.640 inserted as fact into their article.

00:07:35.460 Again, I mean, New York daily news needs to be sued into oblivion.

00:07:38.660 This is just, this is defamatory.

00:07:40.380 This is simply false.

00:07:44.580 So what is this all about?

00:07:47.560 Well, first of all, let's look at here's, here's, here's the picture in question.

00:07:51.920 Take a look at it right now.

00:07:54.000 So there it is.

00:07:56.660 So you notice how, you notice how everybody is in black, right?

00:08:00.420 Everyone's wearing black and then some are wearing black paint.

00:08:04.700 Others are in all black clothing.

00:08:08.260 So what was the point of that?

00:08:11.000 Was it, was it a wear your racist costume to the basketball day at Covington Catholic?

00:08:17.600 Which, which the school then videoed and put online proudly for everyone to see.

00:08:23.820 Like, hey guys, look at our racist event.

00:08:25.740 Come take a look at this.

00:08:26.860 This is great.

00:08:27.600 Look at our racism, folks.

00:08:28.920 Look at this.

00:08:30.140 Is that what happened?

00:08:32.660 Now, I don't doubt that leftists would actually believe that a Catholic school would do something

00:08:37.640 like that.

00:08:38.840 That there would be a Catholic school conspiring in a mass act of random racism.

00:08:44.380 But anyone with, say, a third of a functioning brain would, would know that that is completely 0.97

00:08:52.740 ridiculous and knows that there must be more to the story. 0.93

00:08:55.800 And there is. 0.96

00:08:56.800 So this is what's known as a blackout game.

00:08:59.800 Okay.

00:09:00.240 Many schools do this.

00:09:01.500 It's very common.

00:09:02.840 It happens all across the country.

00:09:04.720 Everybody wears black.

00:09:05.700 That's what a blackout game is.

00:09:06.940 That's all it is.

00:09:07.920 Everyone is just in the same color. 0.76

00:09:10.780 And then if you get the, if you get the bird's eye view of the stadium, or if you see everyone

00:09:15.040 sitting in the bleachers, it looks kind of cool that everyone is in, is in the same color.

00:09:19.220 Everyone's in black.

00:09:20.220 They also have whiteout games.

00:09:22.300 They have games where everyone wears blue.

00:09:25.160 Okay.

00:09:25.620 So, so that, that's it.

00:09:27.000 That's the whole story.

00:09:28.340 And if everyone wearing black is blackface, then I guess when they all wear white for a 1.00

00:09:32.640 whiteout game, it's whiteface.

00:09:34.460 And if they all wear blue, it's blueface. 0.98

00:09:36.140 Um, in other words, to call it blackface is a lie.

00:09:41.720 It is a libelous lie. 0.95

00:09:45.320 Why are they screaming at the black player? 0.96

00:09:47.800 Well, because it's a basketball game. 1.00

00:09:50.340 You drooling dimwits. 0.99

00:09:52.580 It's a basketball game. 0.99

00:09:54.420 That's what the home fans do at a game. 0.97

00:09:57.980 They yell and they taunt the opposing players, not because they're black, but because they're 0.88

00:10:02.220 the opposing player.

00:10:03.340 This is what the fans of the home team have done in every basketball and football and hockey

00:10:09.560 game that has ever been played anywhere on earth in history.

00:10:14.220 This is just what they do.

00:10:16.100 So all these people are looking at this picture and say, Oh my gosh, look at them yelling at

00:10:20.420 that player.

00:10:21.100 This is this.

00:10:22.080 I saw someone on Twitter said it was, um, I forget the phrase he used.

00:10:25.600 He said it was something like looking into the heart of evil or some phrase like that.

00:10:30.140 I mean, this is someone who apparently has never left their house, never turned on a

00:10:35.000 TV, um, never seen any sort of sporting event that they would see.

00:10:40.420 Well, look, they're, they're raising their, they appear to be taunting that player in a,

00:10:44.380 in a different colored Jersey.

00:10:46.220 No, this, I don't know.

00:10:48.260 Well, I never, you notice how, how leftists become these, um, sort of fainting.

00:10:54.160 Victorian era, um, uh, you know, damsels in distress so easily that it, it, I mean, usually

00:11:04.540 these are the, these are the people who have no problem with, uh, you know, vulgarity.

00:11:10.040 They have no problem with, I mean, they're the ones accusing everyone else of being Puritans,

00:11:14.840 but then they see something like this and they go, Oh my gosh, I can't believe it.

00:11:19.660 But it's, it's just, it's called, it's a, it's a sport.

00:11:24.680 Okay.

00:11:24.960 These are, these are, these are kids.

00:11:27.360 These are high school kids at a sport getting rowdy.

00:11:30.280 That's what they do. 0.98

00:11:33.360 You lying, lying frauds. 0.98

00:11:37.900 You, I mean, this whole thing makes me so angry because the lies are just so blatant. 0.99

00:11:44.620 They, I mean, and, and they know what they're doing.

00:11:48.160 These people know what they're doing. 0.98

00:11:49.880 This is not, they aren't, they aren't stupid. 0.99

00:11:52.700 Okay. 1.00

00:11:54.100 They aren't so stupid that they don't understand the concept of a high school basketball game 1.00

00:12:01.260 and what goes on at there. 1.00

00:12:02.740 They aren't so dumb that they don't understand the, the idea that sometimes everyone wears 0.98

00:12:07.900 the same color to a basketball game. 1.00

00:12:09.980 No, they aren't, I know I call them drooling dimwits, but actually I'm doing them a huge 0.95

00:12:14.220 favor with that. 1.00

00:12:14.940 I mean, that is a huge compliment because either they are drooling dimwits or they are despicable 0.99

00:12:21.080 evil people who are lying about these kids and trying to get them at a, at, at a minimum 0.99

00:12:29.280 expelled, if not killed, because these kids are getting death threats.

00:12:34.700 There are bomb threats going to the school.

00:12:36.740 And now you're jumping in with this lie as well. 1.00

00:12:40.020 So either you are a total moron or you are evil and you are trying to get these kids hurt 1.00

00:12:46.800 with a lie. 1.00

00:12:48.020 Those are the only two options.

00:12:49.260 There are no other options here at this point.

00:12:56.200 They know exactly what they're doing.

00:12:57.800 In the words of Marco Rubio, let's dispel with the fiction that they don't know what they're

00:13:02.280 doing.

00:13:02.560 They know exactly what they're doing.

00:13:03.880 By the way, um, speaking of bad people, uh, Nathan Phillips has, according to the Cincinnati

00:13:10.160 Inquirer has turned down an offer to, uh, sit down and meet with the students.

00:13:16.260 There's a local restaurant that had offered to have a kind of, um, break breaking bread

00:13:21.880 session between the two sides.

00:13:23.780 And Nathan Phillips said that, well, now's not the right time for that.

00:13:28.800 He's, he's, he's not going to do it.

00:13:29.820 But in the same interview, he did insinuate that now he would be possibly in favor of the

00:13:35.080 kids getting expelled.

00:13:36.700 He said, he said, you know, originally I wasn't, uh, paraphrasing, but he said, originally I wasn't,

00:13:41.260 I wasn't in favor of them getting expelled, but now I have to revisit that.

00:13:46.080 And, and of course he does want various staff to be fired.

00:13:50.220 So he wants the kids to be expelled.

00:13:51.600 He wants the staff to be fired.

00:13:53.680 Um, and, uh, this is the hero that the left has given us this Nathan Phillips character, 0.99

00:13:58.420 who again is a liar, a fraud and a bully who is, um, picking on these kids. 0.98

00:14:07.520 One other point to make here. 0.99

00:14:09.120 Um, the left, now I want you to, to remember something here, uh,

00:14:16.080 so we had this incident on Saturday, but think back to what happened last week and how the

00:14:23.700 left spent much of last week attacking Karen Pence because she got a job at a Christian school.

00:14:29.380 Then by the end of the week, um, expose Christian schools was a hashtag trending on Twitter because

00:14:38.120 he had the attacking Karen Pence for the Christian school and then hashtag expose Christian schools.

00:14:43.300 And this was just a hashtag where a bunch of people were complaining about Christian schools.

00:14:48.440 Um, and then on Saturday, a false narrative was quickly constructed claiming that a group

00:14:54.280 of students from a Catholic school harassed and taunted a native American man.

00:14:57.460 Now, I don't think that all of these events came together coincidentally.

00:15:05.040 It's very interesting that expose Christian schools.

00:15:07.680 That was the hashtag trending on Friday.

00:15:09.780 And then the thing happens on Saturday.

00:15:11.620 So if you go and you check that hashtag now, you're going to see a whole bunch of tweets

00:15:14.980 about Covington because the hashtag fits in really nicely with this story, except the

00:15:21.560 hashtag came along before the story.

00:15:25.480 Uh, we have, as I wrote last week, we have officially entered a new phase of the culture war

00:15:30.380 and gone officially are the days when leftists pretend to see religion as this sort of thing

00:15:36.400 that should be relegated to homes and churches and private schools.

00:15:40.380 Um, that was a very small amount of extremely limited and qualified tolerance that they had.

00:15:48.000 And that is now gone.

00:15:49.580 They will not tolerate Christianity in any form, in any forum, especially a private school. 0.99

00:15:55.520 So if you go and you look at that hashtag that I was talking about, it is filled with open,

00:16:00.600 unapologetic hatred for Christian schools as an institution, for the very idea of Christian

00:16:07.580 schools.

00:16:08.260 This is the pattern with the left.

00:16:11.200 Um, this is sort of the trajectory, I should say, but the pattern is very interesting.

00:16:18.060 Um, you know, they, maybe you've noticed this, but they tend to find these perfectly timed real

00:16:25.740 world examples to demonstrate whatever point they were already making.

00:16:29.540 Have you noticed that?

00:16:30.960 So think about in the wake of Donald Trump's election, um, they, they, uh, were wringing

00:16:36.860 their hands and saying that this is going to embolden racists and bigots and there's going

00:16:41.500 to be hate crimes and everything.

00:16:42.640 Um, and just like that reports of hate crimes come pouring in.

00:16:47.900 And so for the first few months after Donald Trump's election, you're just, you were hearing

00:16:51.360 about these hate crime reports all the time.

00:16:52.760 Now, of course, many of those hate crimes proved to be hoaxes, but that's a minor detail as

00:16:57.960 far as the left concerned.

00:16:59.200 And then think about Ferguson, you know, Ferguson happened and, uh, uh, we were told that white 0.95

00:17:06.640 supremacist police officers are on the prowl, you know, hunting down innocent black men.

00:17:13.320 And just like that, high profile cases of police brutality presented themselves.

00:17:18.800 And it was just this rash of, of, um, of cases like this.

00:17:23.320 And there were riots across the country and all these differences.

00:17:25.540 It was one city after another, one incident after another.

00:17:29.580 Now, again, many of those cases were not legitimate examples of police brutality, but the truth

00:17:35.180 or falsehood of the case is irrelevant to leftists, obviously.

00:17:39.160 And then this week we were told that Christian schools are nests of bigotry and intolerance.

00:17:45.600 And then what do you know, video surfaces of kids at a Christian school verbally assaulting

00:17:50.420 a native American man.

00:17:51.440 I mean, they couldn't have scripted it any better, could they?

00:17:53.980 Now, I'm not suggesting that this is all part of some sort of coordinated master plan.

00:18:02.720 I don't think that these incidents are all engineered by some shadowy, devious figure behind

00:18:09.200 the scenes who's sitting behind a big oak desk, stroking his white cat, you know, and plotting,

00:18:14.300 um, all of these various scenarios, the, the conspiracy, if we can call it that is much

00:18:21.980 less cinematic in scope and much less dramatic and involves very little actual conspiring because

00:18:30.300 the media is already on the same page.

00:18:32.820 There is no need for them to have a meeting and get together and say, Hey, you know, we've

00:18:37.080 been talking about this.

00:18:38.020 Now let's go find an example.

00:18:39.560 Um, they don't need to say that out loud.

00:18:41.220 It's just kind of understood that that's what they're going to do.

00:18:44.680 They decide what sort of events, what sort of incidents will be reported and then which

00:18:50.220 elements of those incidents and events will be highlighted.

00:18:55.560 So then something like the Covington Catholic story is seized upon and exploited and retroactively,

00:19:03.820 um, kind of, uh, molded to fit with the narrative that they'd already established.

00:19:11.220 Um, that's, that's the way this works.

00:19:17.800 Now, if the media and the left had not already been hammering on this point about Christian

00:19:25.700 schools, then it's possible that this thing that happened in DC wouldn't have gotten as

00:19:30.580 much attention or wouldn't have gotten any attention.

00:19:32.280 And obviously if, you know, if you change the demographics around, um, and it doesn't feature

00:19:38.440 white males, then it would have gotten no attention whatsoever.

00:19:42.760 But it just so happens that it, it, it fits so perfectly with what they were talking about.

00:19:46.980 At least if you take it out of context and you lie about certain elements of the story,

00:19:50.780 certain crucial elements, then it fits so well.

00:19:53.200 So that's why they took it and they, they fit it in.

00:19:55.820 Um, so it's not that this, that Nathan Phillips was conspiring with, you know, um, George Soros

00:20:05.260 or something.

00:20:05.720 And then, and you know, this was all, this, it's more, this is just something that happened

00:20:09.400 and the left and the media knew what to do with it.

00:20:13.140 They took it and they fit it into what they were already talking about.

00:20:15.240 But there's always a point, okay.

00:20:17.900 With, with these narratives and these themes when they hammer on them and the left has not

00:20:22.840 gone through the trouble of painting Christian schools as dangerous hate factories for no

00:20:27.620 reason.

00:20:28.040 They intend to do something with it.

00:20:30.260 Okay.

00:20:30.540 They're going to, they're going to use the fruits of their labor, um, to some end.

00:20:36.140 And that end, I think will become very clear, um, very soon.

00:20:41.260 Okay.

00:20:41.740 Now, before we get to, um, emails, I want to mention this from ABC news, the university

00:20:48.080 of Notre Dame will cover murals in a campus building that depicts Christopher Columbus

00:20:52.660 in America.

00:20:53.220 The school's president said following criticism that the images depict native Americans in

00:20:57.220 stereotypical submissive poses before white European explorers.

00:21:00.840 Um, the 12 murals were created in the 1880s, uh, by Louise Grigori, um, and they were intended

00:21:08.440 to encourage immigrants who had come to the U S during a period of anti-Catholic

00:21:11.500 sentiment, but they conceal another side of Columbus, the exploitation and repression

00:21:15.300 of native Americans, according to the Reverend John Jenkins, president of Notre Dame.

00:21:19.680 Um, so they're going to cover up these.

00:21:21.420 Now here's, here's what's going to be, and I, and I just want to mention this because this 0.95

00:21:24.220 is just so emblematic of, uh, of the way that cowardly Christians deal with things these 1.00

00:21:32.000 days. 0.90

00:21:32.160 So what he's doing is, uh, he's not getting rid of the murals, uh, which again, this is,

00:21:39.360 this is art, um, made in the, in the 19th century for, for Notre Dame given to them.

00:21:47.360 And, um, so he's not going to just throw them away.

00:21:49.780 Instead, he's going to cover the murals.

00:21:52.000 And he indicated that sometimes maybe for, he would uncover them on certain occasions.

00:21:56.540 And then eventually they'll find somewhere else on the campus to put the murals.

00:22:00.180 So they're not getting rid of them or put them somewhere else. 0.98

00:22:02.380 So what he's done here, and this is, this is just what cowardly Christians always do. 1.00

00:22:08.000 He's come up with a compromise that actually satisfies no one. 0.93

00:22:12.980 So he's caving to pressure from, from the left, um, from society, from the world.

00:22:20.420 He's caving to the pressure, but he's not even doing what they want.

00:22:25.120 So they're still going to be mad at him.

00:22:26.900 And then meanwhile, um, those who don't want him to cave are also going to be mad.

00:22:31.700 So he's just upset everyone and accomplished nothing.

00:22:36.700 This is what happens when you start trying to compromise and you give up on your principles

00:22:41.060 and you start caving and surrendering and everything.

00:22:43.620 It's, you're, you're not even going to satisfy the people who are coming after you.

00:22:47.360 The people who you are bowing before and saying, oh yes, yes, please, please.

00:22:52.240 Oh, Matt, dear master, master, the people that you're doing that to, they're not going to

00:22:56.840 be happy.

00:22:59.160 So you just end up, you end up with a, it's a lose, lose.

00:23:04.240 Meanwhile, this, I'm not going to get off on another tangent about Christopher Columbus,

00:23:08.580 but, uh, as someone who's actually read about him and studied Columbus, I still find him to

00:23:15.140 be one of the great, one of the great men of, of Western civilization, obviously one of the

00:23:22.620 pioneers and initial builders of Western civilization, not a perfect man, a complex man and men who

00:23:32.320 did great things at any point in history, but especially back, uh, back in those days,

00:23:39.720 the great men who did great things and accomplished great, they were always complex.

00:23:43.700 They always had sides to them that were, um, less, shall we say, savory.

00:23:50.320 And part of that is because if, if you, if you wanted to get on a ship with a bunch of other

00:23:56.620 guys and sail across uncharted waters and go to this, um, unknown wilderness and try to

00:24:05.460 build a civilization from scratch, which is something that none of us, we can't even conceive

00:24:11.480 of that. None of, none of us have ever done that or ever seen that happen. We can't even

00:24:15.940 wrap our minds around what that even entails to get on a ship with a bunch of supplies and then say,

00:24:24.080 you know, we're going to just sail and hope that we find land and we're going to build a

00:24:27.400 civilization. How about that? Um, none of us can even, I mean, all the people that sit there and

00:24:31.900 say, well, he shouldn't have done it that way. Well, he shouldn't have done that,

00:24:34.340 that part right there. That was no good. Uh, meanwhile, none of us, we can't even find our

00:24:38.940 local Rite Aid without a, without a GPS and we're sitting here criticizing. But, um, in,

00:24:44.940 in order to do that, you had to have certain characteristics and you also had to be a very

00:24:50.780 harsh and severe sort of man and, and, and also brutal. Um, it was kind of necessary. Now that

00:24:58.760 doesn't excuse, uh, the bad things that Columbus did or the bad things that anyone did throughout

00:25:05.100 history, but it does put it within a certain context that if you want to be an intelligent

00:25:11.040 person and you want to study history and you want to have a mature perspective on history and not a

00:25:16.240 childish one, then you have to understand the context. But one way or another, uh, Christopher

00:25:24.680 Columbus, the early explorers, discoverers, pioneers, settlers, these are the people who built the

00:25:30.940 civilization that you and I now live in. And we are enjoying the fruits of their labor.

00:25:36.680 We are feasting on the banquet that they provided us. And even as we do that, like brats, we sit and

00:25:45.060 we whine about them and complain and insult them. Well, you know, I know it's a cliche to say,

00:25:50.440 if you don't like it, get out of America. But sometimes I think that response is, um,

00:25:56.260 wholly appropriate. And I think it goes, I think it applies to this. Unless, unless you're a hypocrite

00:26:01.720 or an intellectual coward, if you really think that, um, that our civilization is built fundamentally 0.99

00:26:08.980 on genocide and evil and slavery and all these things, if that's really what you think, and you 0.97

00:26:14.160 think we have no right to even be here and we stole all this land and we're thieves and criminals and 0.60

00:26:19.320 everything, then you should leave. Uh, for you to think that and yet stay here and benefit from the

00:26:26.880 privileges that those genocidal maniacs gave you, that makes you just incomprehensibly cowardly. 0.99

00:26:35.120 If you really feel that way, then you must leave and go live somewhere else. I really mean that. 0.99

00:26:41.140 You, you have to, you can't possibly stay here while thinking that it would be like, if, um,

00:26:50.200 if your, if your friend invited you over for a house party and then you, you, you come into the

00:26:55.700 house and you say, wow, this is a really nice house, a great party. And he's giving you a feast

00:26:58.840 and then you find out and you say, when did you buy this house? And your friend says to you,

00:27:03.600 oh, you know, no, there was another family living here. And, uh, actually I just, I just came in

00:27:07.160 and killed all of them and, um, they're buried out back. But anyway, uh, the fruit punch is in 0.90

00:27:11.320 the kitchen. Now, if your friend said that to you, you would leave the house, right? You wouldn't

00:27:15.700 just say, oh, okay, well, you know what? I disapprove, but, uh, let me go get some of that

00:27:20.000 fruit punch. You wouldn't do that. You would leave the house and then you would call the police,

00:27:23.760 right? Now, I don't think that that analogy is at all similar to what, um, the early settlers

00:27:31.160 and explorers did. But the point is liberals, that is how they think of it. They think it's exactly

00:27:36.220 like that. Yet they're staying in the house party. Cowards.

00:27:44.520 Okay. Um, now to the inbox, if you want to send a message to the show, ask a question, 0.97

00:27:49.760 offer a comment, um, compliment me, insult me, uh, or anything else you can email

00:27:55.900 mattwalsshow at gmail.com, mattwalsshow at gmail.com, mattwalsshow at gmail.com. Uh, you can also get a

00:28:01.880 hold of me through Facebook and Twitter and a million other means, but I'm trying to consolidate

00:28:04.860 things here. So as best I can, um, from Andy, he says, uh,

00:28:14.420 I lost that one. Justin writes, your, uh, your number two next to Ben in my daily subscription,

00:28:21.580 sometimes a better show than his even. I hope he's paying you well. Watch out, Michael Knowles.

00:28:26.180 Thank you, Justin. My, um, my great goal in life is to be second place. So I appreciate that. No,

00:28:32.220 I do appreciate it. Thank you. Um, from Logan, what does the left have correct that the right

00:28:38.560 is failing to understand? That is a great, great question. What does the left have correct that the

00:28:44.660 right is failing to understand? I like that question. I think there's a big one. I've talked

00:28:48.880 about this before. Uh, they understand, I think what, what sorts of issues will fire people up

00:28:56.020 and motivate people. Um, they know how to get to people's hearts and to, to win hearts.

00:29:02.720 And they know that you need to win the heart first and then the mind it's heart than mind,

00:29:06.500 right? Which, as I pointed out, is something that conservatives tend to not understand. So

00:29:12.520 conservatives will go on and on about things like tax policy and jobs and so on, which are important,

00:29:19.660 obviously, but you're not going to build movements around them. Um, at least not these days, you won't

00:29:26.180 even something like immigration. Okay. Really important issue, uh, an issue that lots of people care about

00:29:32.220 obviously. And for good reason, but I'll tell you this, if you had a march on Washington

00:29:37.780 for or against illegal immigration, you're not going to get even a fraction of what the March

00:29:44.280 for Life gets every single year. Okay. The March for Life pulls three, 400, 500,000 people. You're

00:29:50.680 not going to get those, those kinds of numbers for an immigration March. You just won't. I mean,

00:29:55.120 you might get a thousand, 10,000, maybe if you promote it really well because abortion, you know,

00:30:03.080 the social issues, the cultural issues, these are the issues that have, that are, that

00:30:07.000 speak to people at the most intrinsic kind of level. Um, and they have a very deep philosophical

00:30:15.100 dimension to them because they get down to the meaning and purpose of life and of society and

00:30:21.780 of human existence. And so those are, those are the questions that we all think about. Those are

00:30:26.620 the things we care about. Those are the things that we order our lives around, right? Um, you know,

00:30:31.560 there are many pro-lifers who have, who have ordered their life around their conviction that

00:30:36.960 life is sacred and valuable and that abortion is horrible and needs to be outlawed. There are not

00:30:41.420 as many people who have centered their life around immigration, although there are some who specialize

00:30:46.700 in that issue, but not nearly as many. Um, because these are the most fundamental, most important,

00:30:54.380 most central kinds of issues. And this is where our primary focus should be. Liberals understand that.

00:30:59.140 And that's why they've been so effective in, um, in, you know, claiming the culture for themselves.

00:31:08.260 Notice, by the way, how long it took, just as an example, notice how long it took conservatives to,

00:31:12.080 to figure out that this gender stuff, transgenderism and all that, notice how long it took them to

00:31:17.660 figure out that this was something they needed to pay attention to. I remember when I was writing my,

00:31:21.000 my book, um, The Unholy Trinity, which you can find in bookstores today or on Amazon.

00:31:26.340 And I, I talked a lot about transgenderism in that, in that book. And I remember I was pitching

00:31:31.220 that to the publisher and the publisher told me when I was originally talking about the book with

00:31:34.300 them, they said, um, they said, well, yeah, but the transgenderism thing, I mean, are people really

00:31:38.240 going to care about that by the time the book comes out? And I said, yeah, they're going to care

00:31:42.960 about, care about it. This is, this is a, this is an issue now. This is a thing people care about.

00:31:47.480 Um, and it just took conservatives a long time to figure that out. Um, Aaron writes,

00:31:55.080 Matt, I agree with you about the Covington Catholic situation, but here's my thing.

00:31:58.380 The response from church leadership has been terrible. My own diocese denounced the boys as

00:32:03.620 soon as it happened. Uh, I've seen many, uh, priests and bishops on social media denouncing them too.

00:32:09.960 This seems like total cowardice to me. What do you think? I think you said it well, Aaron. And I

00:32:16.800 totally agree with you. Joe says, I don't understand what you're about or why anyone cares what you

00:32:21.800 think. Why did the daily wire feel the need to hire an apocalyptic preacher? You're like a hipster

00:32:27.640 John the Baptist. And I don't mean that as a compliment. I only want to hear about Ben Shapiro.

00:32:33.420 I don't care about you. Well, Joe, you don't mean that as a compliment, but I actually take it as

00:32:39.180 one, a hipster, John the Baptist. I, you know, I don't think I'm a hipster, but I love it. I think

00:32:42.820 I might have to put that on my Twitter bio. Um, from William, he says, Matt, have you heard of

00:32:48.220 the economic school of thought known as distributism? Thomas E. Woods Jr. of the Mises

00:32:52.740 Institute describes distributists as believing that social system is best in which productive

00:32:57.900 property is widely dispersed rather than concentrated. GK Chesterton, perhaps the most well-known and

00:33:02.480 respected advocate of distributism famously said too much capitalism does not mean too many

00:33:06.860 capitalists, but too few. Proponents of the Austrian and Chicago schools of economics usually

00:33:11.360 criticize distributists of trying to sneak in socialism to the back door because of their

00:33:15.700 insistence that as many workers as possible ought to own the means of their own labor.

00:33:20.600 Um, thus, uh, and then he asks, what do you make of distributism? Thanks for that, William. I,

00:33:29.360 I'm a little familiar with distributism. I love Chesterton. And so anything he says,

00:33:33.560 I think should be taken seriously. I think the comparison to socialism is off base because the

00:33:38.620 point of distributism is precisely to make sure that everyone owns property. Private property is

00:33:44.980 the point private ownership. Um, and that is not communal ownership, but actual private owner as an

00:33:52.480 actual individuals owning their own land and their own means of production. Now I think of this as less

00:33:58.640 of an economic system is more and more of sort of a philosophical, more of a philosophy.

00:34:04.100 Chesterton's point, I think is that the, the best thing, the most moral, the most human

00:34:09.560 thing is for everyone to own something, to own land, own means of production, not own as a community,

00:34:16.140 not own as a state or through the state, but actually own for themselves privately.

00:34:22.040 And I think Chesterton was horrified by a world where so few people actually owned anything. And he

00:34:27.480 thought, well, that's just, that's not human. Humans should own things. The prop, and I agree

00:34:32.240 with that. The problem of course, is that there's no way to get to there with everybody owning their 0.70

00:34:39.320 own chunk of, uh, of land and their own means of production. There's no way to get there from where

00:34:44.000 we are without the government confiscating everything and then, and then kind of, um, redistributing

00:34:50.820 it as they see fit, which, which obviously would be insane and terrible and cataclysmic

00:34:55.180 and tyrannical and awful. So there's no way anyone could support that. And there's no way

00:34:59.000 it would ever happen. But look, here's what I'll say about the distributed. If, um, and I think that

00:35:05.060 this is not a far-fetched scenario, if the whole world comes crumbling down and there's some sort

00:35:08.780 of apocalyptic event and civilization is, is, uh, reduced to ash and then a few survivors are left

00:35:16.540 and we're looking at rebuilding society, rebuilding civilization, and we all get together and we say,

00:35:21.600 what sort of economic system should we start with? I think then starting from scratch,

00:35:27.400 maybe you could look at the distributism as a model. Um, Tyson says, Hey Matt, I'll keep this

00:35:33.740 short at school. My history teacher is very left leaning and we've been discussing illegal,

00:35:38.140 illegal immigration. I am in full support of the wall and trying to minimize these people from 1.00

00:35:42.120 coming into our country. Every time the topic comes up, his argument or deflection, when I state

00:35:46.420 my opinion is always, well, did your family come here legally? And I honestly do not know the answer

00:35:51.140 to that question. I am wondering what a good response to combat the question is instead of

00:35:55.060 leaving me stuck. Um, Tyson, the first answer is that it's irrelevant. Even if you're, even if your

00:36:00.680 family did come here illegally, uh, which, I mean, I assume, you know, if they did or didn't,

00:36:07.100 um, but whether they did or that's got nothing to do with the issue. The issue is whether or not

00:36:15.140 we should protect the border, whether or not we should have immigration laws.

00:36:18.700 So when someone says, well, what about you? What did you do? What, what about your family?

00:36:24.180 It, okay. That, that can, that can speak to your own personal credibility or whatever,

00:36:29.080 maybe, but it has nothing to do with the issue. So even if somebody could, could prove that you're

00:36:34.760 a hypocrite, that doesn't mean that you're wrong about what you're saying. So that's a way, that is 0.97

00:36:38.100 a way of deflecting. It's a way of not engaging with the argument. So the first thing I would say

00:36:41.620 when your teacher says that is, okay, you know, I don't know about my family, but can we stick to the

00:36:45.620 issue? Can you stop deflecting from the issue? Let's talk about the issue. And, uh, and secondly,

00:36:52.500 this idea that, um, that we're all, you know, ancestors of illegal immigrants is of course, 0.96

00:36:59.860 ridiculous and false. Uh, and you know, there are, you know, my, my family came here, I don't know,

00:37:07.240 70 years ago, they came here legally. So the claim just doesn't make any sense to begin with.

00:37:11.360 Um, Alison writes, Matt, I go to CPAC every year and I always expect you to be there,

00:37:17.360 but you never are. Will you be there this year? Will you be speaking? Well, Alison,

00:37:21.000 I'd love to be at CPAC, but I've never been invited. Sniff, tear. Uh, but I mean, if you

00:37:27.680 really wanted me to speak at CPAC, which again, I'd love to do, you could always reach out to CPAC

00:37:31.220 on Twitter and say, Hey, uh, invite Matt Walsh or something. I don't know. I mean, it's something

00:37:35.160 that you could do if you really wanted to. Finally, Max says, Matt, your comment that LeBron James is the

00:37:41.220 best basketball player of all time was insane. Have you ever heard of Michael Jordan? Never lost

00:37:45.280 a finals end of discussion. Well, that's not the end of discussion. Michael Jordan was in the league

00:37:49.700 for, I think 16 years. He only went to the finals six times. That means that he missed the finals

00:37:53.840 10 times. LeBron James has been in the league, I think also for 16 years. And he's on, he's on his

00:37:59.460 16th year. I believe he's been to the finals nine times already. So, um, this idea that we're giving

00:38:04.100 Jordan credit for losing before the finals. Oh, he was undefeated in the finals. He missed it 10

00:38:09.760 times. He lost. You know why he was undefeated? Because he lost before he got to the finals 10

00:38:15.580 times. How is that better? How is it more clutch to lose before the finals than to lose in the finals?

00:38:22.660 That doesn't make any sense. And of course, when you're doing with a finals record thing,

00:38:26.800 um, you're not factoring in number one in 2007, LeBron James went to the finals and he dragged a team

00:38:33.180 that without him would not even have sniffed the playoffs and he dragged them on his own to the

00:38:40.100 finals. The fact that he lost there is irrelevant. Just making it is one of the most impressive feats

00:38:45.220 in, in modern sports history. And then also, uh, LeBron James has three times played the best team in

00:38:52.240 the history of the game. Uh, Jordan never played a team like the Warriors. Never. He never played a team

00:38:59.760 that having the Warriors have three of the best scorers in the league on the same team. And, uh,

00:39:07.620 Jordan never played a team quite like that. So I still say that LeBron James, the best basketball

00:39:13.520 player of all time. Thanks for watching everybody. We'll, we'll leave it there. Thanks for listening.

00:39:18.680 Talk to you tomorrow. Goodbye. And Godspeed.

00:39:20.800 Hi everyone. I'm Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan show. You know, the new young Democrats are

00:39:34.180 attractive, appealing, idealistic, ignorant, and vicious, and they're about to destroy America. 0.99

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The Matt Walsh Show - January 22, 2019

Ep. 181 - Left Won't Stop Smearing Covington Catholic Students

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