The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 185 - Elizabeth Warren Wants Rich To Pay Off Our Student Loans

00:00:00.220 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, Elizabeth Warren shames a rich guy and says that he needs to help pay for your student loan debt. 0.99

00:00:08.780 And there are so many problems with this that I don't even know where to begin, but I'll try to break it down.

00:00:13.340 Also, the Bishop of Covington sort of apologizes for throwing the Covington kids under the bus last week,

00:00:19.080 but his apology is useless and worthless, and in some ways it even makes him look worse than he already looked,

00:00:25.700 and we'll talk about that today on the Matt Walsh Show.

00:00:30.000 Well, Elizabeth Warren can't seem to go a week without embarrassing herself, 1.00

00:00:39.660 which is why I continue to hope and pray that she wins the nomination in 2020. I really do.

00:00:45.940 But this time she retweeted an article about Dan Snyder buying a yacht.

00:00:53.680 Dan Snyder is the owner of the Washington Redskins, and this is what she wrote when she retweeted the article.

00:00:58.820 She said,

00:01:00.060 This billionaire NFL owner just paid $100 million for a super yacht with its own IMAX theater.

00:01:06.720 I'm pretty sure he can pay my new ultra-millionaire tax to help the millions of yachtless Americans struggling with student loan debt.

00:01:14.540 Now, I am by no means quick to defend Dan Snyder, who is one of the worst NFL owners probably in the history of the league.

00:01:26.340 He has made many terrible front office decisions, of course, the worst of which was when he paid Albert Hainsworth $100 million back in 2009,

00:01:36.120 and then Albert Hainsworth went on to get, like, two sacks in two years.

00:01:39.140 But anyway, that's besides the point.

00:01:41.700 And look, if you want to get on Dan Snyder's case for how he spends money on the football field,

00:01:49.060 how he spends money on free agent contracts and everything, then by all means go ahead and do that.

00:01:54.820 But that is not what Warren was getting at here.

00:01:57.220 This was not a football criticism on her part.

00:02:01.380 She, a United States senator, is simply shaming a private citizen for being rich and buying a boat.

00:02:09.540 That's what that's all about.

00:02:11.280 That's all that was.

00:02:12.360 Now, here's the question.

00:02:15.460 Why is it any of Elizabeth Warren's business that Dan Snyder bought a boat with an IMAX theater?

00:02:22.680 Why is that any of her business whatsoever? 0.74

00:02:24.860 The left, they're the ones who are always saying, mind your own business.

00:02:28.000 It's none of your business.

00:02:29.000 Stay out of my life.

00:02:29.980 So why is this any of your business?

00:02:31.540 So the guy bought a boat.

00:02:32.900 Who cares?

00:02:33.820 What does that have to do with you?

00:02:35.100 It's not illegal.

00:02:36.800 What does it have to do with any of us?

00:02:38.180 Why should any of us have an opinion about how Dan Snyder spends his money?

00:02:45.740 This is some of the most blatant and unapologetic class warfare nonsense that you're likely to see.

00:02:53.840 This is a senator literally just posting a picture of a rich guy's yacht and saying, look at this rich guy with his rich guy stuff.

00:03:01.840 Don't you hate all these rich guys?

00:03:04.960 And that's to say nothing of the hypocrisy of it, of course.

00:03:07.880 Coming from someone who is herself well off.

00:03:11.140 She may not be preparing to buy a yacht anytime soon, but she has luxuries that many of us can't afford. 0.88

00:03:17.340 Remember that hilarious video of her drinking beer and trying to pretend like to be a normal person?

00:03:22.580 Here it is again.

00:03:23.680 Remember this.

00:03:24.500 Hold on a sec.

00:03:25.280 I'm going to get me a beer.

00:03:35.160 Hey.

00:03:36.340 Hello.

00:03:36.800 My husband, Bruce.

00:03:37.880 Is now in here.

00:03:40.060 You want a beer?

00:03:41.020 No, I'll pass on a beer for now.

00:03:42.180 You sure?

00:03:42.640 Come over and say hello to folks.

00:03:43.500 Yes.

00:03:44.280 So, this is my sweetie.

00:03:46.000 Hello.

00:03:47.980 And I'm crazy.

00:03:49.300 I love you.

00:03:49.980 I love you, too.

00:03:50.780 Thank you for being here.

00:03:51.800 Pleasure.

00:03:52.280 I'm glad you're here.

00:03:52.920 Enjoy your beer.

00:03:53.860 Who have we got here so far?

00:03:56.500 Skylar?

00:03:57.740 And 14 others?

00:03:59.380 Hello.

00:04:00.340 Denise? 0.68

00:04:01.680 Hi.

00:04:02.920 Fortnite?

00:04:04.020 Good to see you.

00:04:04.900 Who else have we got?

00:04:06.580 Kenny?

00:04:07.300 Is that right?

00:04:08.120 Kenny and the boys?

00:04:09.620 I'm glad to see you.

00:04:10.760 Is that a greenie goddess? 0.98

00:04:12.060 Wow.

00:04:12.820 That's a name I'd like to have.

00:04:14.340 Okay, so look at that.

00:04:20.180 Did you see that?

00:04:21.760 Look at her kitchen. 0.69

00:04:24.220 Did you see her kitchen?

00:04:25.800 Now, that's a nice kitchen.

00:04:27.060 That's a...

00:04:27.800 You got the nice cabinets,

00:04:29.240 the nice fancy countertops.

00:04:31.820 What are those?

00:04:32.720 Like granite tile countertops?

00:04:35.300 Now, I think that, personally,

00:04:37.020 actually, the green tile countertops

00:04:38.780 are hideous,

00:04:39.660 but still,

00:04:40.560 those look like

00:04:41.180 relatively expensive countertops,

00:04:43.200 and she's got the tile backsplash.

00:04:46.620 You know,

00:04:47.260 most of us can't afford

00:04:48.140 to have tile backsplash,

00:04:49.860 right?

00:04:52.300 I think we can agree

00:04:53.440 that most Americans

00:04:54.440 cannot afford

00:04:55.360 to have a kitchen like that.

00:04:58.880 Think about this.

00:05:00.320 Elizabeth Warren

00:05:01.180 has that nice fancy kitchen.

00:05:03.400 Meanwhile,

00:05:04.820 a lot of people

00:05:05.640 can't even buy a car.

00:05:08.220 She's got the nice kitchen, 0.94

00:05:09.300 and there are a lot of people,

00:05:10.360 you know,

00:05:10.840 that are walking to work

00:05:11.900 because they can't afford

00:05:12.820 to have a car.

00:05:14.140 So,

00:05:14.560 why should she have

00:05:16.040 such a nice kitchen

00:05:17.200 with those nice countertops

00:05:18.840 and that backsplash

00:05:19.860 when there are people

00:05:20.740 who don't have cars?

00:05:22.380 Now,

00:05:22.960 you might say

00:05:23.620 that there's no connection

00:05:25.500 between the fact

00:05:27.120 that some people

00:05:27.780 don't have cars

00:05:28.720 and Elizabeth Warren's

00:05:31.260 nicely renovated kitchen.

00:05:33.400 You might say

00:05:34.060 there's absolutely

00:05:34.720 no connection whatsoever,

00:05:35.880 so this is a really stupid thing

00:05:37.360 for me to bring up.

00:05:39.180 And you're right.

00:05:40.920 That's exactly the point.

00:05:42.000 It is very stupid.

00:05:43.820 There's no connection

00:05:44.820 between Elizabeth Warren's

00:05:46.240 nice kitchen

00:05:46.780 and the fact

00:05:47.860 that you can't buy a car

00:05:48.920 and are broke,

00:05:49.900 just like there's no connection

00:05:51.000 between Dan Snyder's boat

00:05:53.400 and the fact

00:05:54.960 that you have college debt.

00:05:56.240 There is no relationship

00:05:57.980 between those two things

00:05:58.700 whatsoever.

00:05:59.780 It's not like

00:06:00.760 Dan Snyder

00:06:01.520 has some sort of

00:06:02.400 magical funnel

00:06:03.900 where when you try

00:06:05.680 to pay your college debt,

00:06:06.820 it actually goes

00:06:07.500 in the funnel

00:06:08.320 and then right into his pocket

00:06:09.500 so that he can buy a boat.

00:06:11.360 You know,

00:06:11.520 this isn't

00:06:12.080 like the movie

00:06:14.560 There Will Be Blood

00:06:15.480 with Daniel Day-Lewis

00:06:17.440 explaining how he's got

00:06:18.360 a very long straw

00:06:19.320 and he's going to drink

00:06:19.980 your milkshake.

00:06:20.720 Okay?

00:06:21.220 Dan Snyder is not

00:06:22.280 drinking your milkshake.

00:06:23.280 He's just drinking

00:06:24.640 his own milkshake.

00:06:25.600 He happens to have

00:06:26.500 a much bigger

00:06:27.200 and nicer milkshake

00:06:28.140 than the rest of us.

00:06:29.500 But still,

00:06:30.900 that doesn't

00:06:31.560 take away from the...

00:06:33.700 So the fact that

00:06:34.340 I've got this little

00:06:34.900 tiny lame milkshake

00:06:36.360 and he's got this

00:06:36.880 giant, nice,

00:06:38.160 really delicious milkshake,

00:06:40.000 that doesn't...

00:06:40.800 You could take

00:06:41.240 his milkshake away.

00:06:42.340 It wouldn't make

00:06:42.700 my milkshake taste

00:06:43.500 any better.

00:06:44.500 That's the point.

00:06:46.320 His richness

00:06:47.020 does not harm you

00:06:48.740 in any way

00:06:49.480 nor does it contribute

00:06:50.760 to your brokenness.

00:06:53.140 In fact,

00:06:54.440 if Dan Snyder

00:06:55.380 went bankrupt tomorrow,

00:06:56.820 not only would that

00:06:58.320 not help you,

00:07:00.300 but it would...

00:07:01.340 There's a good chance

00:07:02.200 that it may hurt you.

00:07:03.580 Like,

00:07:04.140 if you build yachts

00:07:05.840 for a living,

00:07:06.520 then that would hurt you.

00:07:08.280 If you work

00:07:10.800 in the Northern Virginia,

00:07:13.900 D.C. area,

00:07:15.040 it would hurt you.

00:07:16.720 If you work retail

00:07:17.800 or you work

00:07:18.500 in customer service,

00:07:19.940 then that's a very rich person

00:07:22.040 who no longer has money

00:07:22.920 to buy things,

00:07:23.660 so that could hurt you.

00:07:24.640 If you work for him,

00:07:26.420 he employs hundreds of people.

00:07:28.520 If you work for him,

00:07:29.060 that could hurt you too.

00:07:29.880 So,

00:07:30.860 take away his money

00:07:32.380 and it helps no one,

00:07:34.060 but it could hurt people.

00:07:35.960 That's just a simple reality.

00:07:39.000 The best that you could hope,

00:07:40.200 if you take away

00:07:40.680 Dan Snyder's money

00:07:41.560 and make him

00:07:42.460 so he's not rich anymore,

00:07:44.920 the best you could hope

00:07:46.200 is that you live

00:07:46.800 in some other part

00:07:47.380 of the country,

00:07:48.220 you don't work for him

00:07:49.200 or work in an industry

00:07:50.000 that he patronizes,

00:07:51.440 and then so maybe

00:07:52.620 it would help you

00:07:53.420 in the way

00:07:54.300 that it would satisfy your envy,

00:07:56.580 make you just feel better

00:07:57.760 that someone else

00:07:58.440 is suffering

00:07:58.980 similar misfortunes to you.

00:08:01.580 But there's no real

00:08:02.620 practical help there.

00:08:05.200 So,

00:08:05.780 that's one part of this.

00:08:07.600 The other part

00:08:08.340 is the whole idea

00:08:09.420 that the government

00:08:10.440 needs to help Americans

00:08:11.800 who are struggling

00:08:12.700 with student loan debt.

00:08:17.360 Honestly,

00:08:18.020 I am getting really tired

00:08:19.600 of hearing this particular

00:08:21.200 sad violin tune.

00:08:22.880 I am,

00:08:23.880 I have been invited

00:08:24.760 to this pity party

00:08:25.640 many times

00:08:26.440 and I just,

00:08:27.220 I have no interest in it.

00:08:28.900 Call me cruel,

00:08:30.120 say that I lack charity,

00:08:31.620 I lack sympathy.

00:08:32.620 That's probably the case.

00:08:34.840 I don't care.

00:08:36.700 The fact is,

00:08:37.820 I am not crying tears

00:08:39.240 of sympathy

00:08:39.780 because you have

00:08:40.900 student loan debt.

00:08:41.780 I'm just not.

00:08:43.100 There are a lot of things

00:08:44.580 in the world

00:08:44.980 that I care about.

00:08:45.860 There are a lot of

00:08:46.420 problems that,

00:08:48.040 that trouble me.

00:08:51.280 There are many

00:08:52.180 forms of misfortune

00:08:54.040 that I feel

00:08:55.020 called to,

00:08:57.020 you know,

00:08:57.760 help with

00:08:59.080 and try to alleviate.

00:09:00.920 Your student loan debt

00:09:02.260 is just not

00:09:02.960 one of those things.

00:09:03.700 I just really,

00:09:05.040 I mean,

00:09:05.200 you could sit there

00:09:05.700 and say,

00:09:05.860 oh,

00:09:05.900 I have $30,000

00:09:06.840 of student loan debt.

00:09:07.780 Here's the thing.

00:09:08.320 I really don't care.

00:09:09.720 I just don't.

00:09:10.860 Nobody does.

00:09:12.220 And no one should.

00:09:14.680 Your student loan debt,

00:09:16.040 it's like your credit card debt.

00:09:17.220 So if you went complaining,

00:09:18.700 oh,

00:09:18.960 I got $10,000

00:09:19.820 in credit card debt.

00:09:20.920 Okay,

00:09:21.360 I don't care.

00:09:23.000 Well,

00:09:23.320 how could you not care?

00:09:24.580 It really hurts me

00:09:25.600 to have all this credit.

00:09:27.120 Well,

00:09:27.320 then you shouldn't have

00:09:27.860 bought all that stuff

00:09:28.540 on a credit card.

00:09:29.500 What,

00:09:29.700 what do you want me to say?

00:09:31.960 I mean,

00:09:32.420 you got to pay it off.

00:09:33.240 It's your debts,

00:09:33.780 not mine.

00:09:34.860 We all have debts.

00:09:36.580 Okay,

00:09:37.080 we all have financial challenges

00:09:39.300 and things we have to pay for.

00:09:41.940 I have a mortgage,

00:09:43.300 so I got to pay my mortgage.

00:09:45.180 And sometimes it really sucks

00:09:46.660 to pay my mortgage.

00:09:47.480 I wish I didn't have to pay,

00:09:48.340 but I do.

00:09:49.080 I'm not going to go

00:09:49.580 complain to you like,

00:09:50.780 oh,

00:09:50.980 my mortgage is so high.

00:09:52.420 I don't want to have to pay it.

00:09:53.820 I don't want to pay my mortgage.

00:09:55.280 No,

00:09:55.440 I'm not going to do that

00:09:56.160 because I'm an adult.

00:09:59.620 In fact,

00:10:00.460 I have student loan.

00:10:02.340 I didn't even go to college

00:10:03.880 and I have student loan debt

00:10:05.040 to pay off.

00:10:05.840 I,

00:10:06.360 as the,

00:10:06.780 as the,

00:10:07.460 um,

00:10:08.940 wage earner in my household,

00:10:10.860 I am paying off my wife's,

00:10:13.280 wife's student debt.

00:10:14.880 We've been paying her student debt

00:10:16.300 for,

00:10:16.740 um,

00:10:17.160 for,

00:10:17.760 for seven years.

00:10:19.520 It's not even my debt.

00:10:21.020 And I don't complain.

00:10:22.240 I don't whine about it.

00:10:23.360 I don't complain about it.

00:10:24.560 I'm not going to go complaining to you

00:10:26.100 about the fact that I'm paying off this debt.

00:10:29.160 Just is what it is.

00:10:32.540 Um,

00:10:33.340 you signed on that dotted line.

00:10:35.100 And you made a choice.

00:10:36.200 That's your debt to pay.

00:10:37.400 That's all.

00:10:38.400 Is it an absurd amount of debt?

00:10:40.200 Yes.

00:10:40.840 Is college way too expensive?

00:10:42.780 Yes.

00:10:43.380 So is a Mercedes Benz.

00:10:44.900 But if you go and buy one,

00:10:46.380 you got it.

00:10:46.860 Then you bought it.

00:10:47.660 That's yours.

00:10:48.160 You got to pay for it.

00:10:49.300 That's your debt that you took on.

00:10:51.620 Don't buy something.

00:10:53.580 If you can't pay for it

00:10:54.920 and don't buy something

00:10:56.860 and immediately start crying,

00:10:58.520 but it's because you have to pay for it.

00:10:59.980 It's like,

00:11:00.320 this is what happens.

00:11:00.920 Colleges say to,

00:11:01.900 uh,

00:11:02.560 to college students,

00:11:03.460 um,

00:11:04.180 okay,

00:11:04.400 here's how much it costs.

00:11:05.680 Sign on the dotted line.

00:11:07.180 And then the student goes,

00:11:08.380 all right,

00:11:08.820 here we go.

00:11:09.780 I'm signing.

00:11:10.980 And then as soon as they make that last gesture of the pen

00:11:14.100 and they sign,

00:11:14.900 they immediately go,

00:11:16.100 wait,

00:11:16.520 why is this so expensive?

00:11:17.860 It's not fair.

00:11:20.020 It,

00:11:20.720 it's,

00:11:21.440 it's that expensive

00:11:22.240 because that's what you signed up for.

00:11:25.660 Um,

00:11:26.340 and that's all.

00:11:29.320 Yes.

00:11:29.840 Again,

00:11:30.100 it is.

00:11:30.460 college is absurdly expensive.

00:11:32.780 It's too expensive.

00:11:35.640 Uh,

00:11:36.280 but you volunteered for that.

00:11:39.120 You didn't have to,

00:11:40.360 and you did.

00:11:43.180 So that's all.

00:11:44.320 I just,

00:11:44.560 I,

00:11:44.700 I have,

00:11:45.460 and a lot of this is just exhaustion.

00:11:47.680 You know,

00:11:48.120 if,

00:11:48.860 um,

00:11:49.100 if there were people struggling with debt and they weren't whining about it

00:11:53.800 all the time and trying to make themselves out to be victims and

00:11:56.980 constantly complaining,

00:11:57.700 and then even asking other people to pay for it for them,

00:12:00.440 um,

00:12:01.420 and supporting politicians who have these student loan forgiveness plans

00:12:05.080 and all that.

00:12:05.560 If it weren't for all of that,

00:12:06.820 then yeah,

00:12:07.840 maybe I would feel sorry for people with their,

00:12:09.600 with their debt.

00:12:10.580 Just like actually,

00:12:11.600 if someone has credit card debt and,

00:12:13.500 uh,

00:12:13.680 that they've racked up and they,

00:12:15.020 you know,

00:12:15.180 they got $15,000 credit card debt and they're not complaining about it or

00:12:18.740 whining or making themselves out to be a victim,

00:12:20.560 but it's just a,

00:12:21.500 it's just now a burden that they carry,

00:12:23.380 uh,

00:12:24.300 because they were irresponsible with their credit cards,

00:12:26.460 but now they're trying to pay it off.

00:12:27.680 Well,

00:12:27.960 that's someone that I would feel,

00:12:29.040 I mean,

00:12:29.820 I still think that they should pay it off,

00:12:31.300 but that is someone I would have sympathy for because they're carrying 0.97

00:12:35.080 that burden with dignity and maturely and not whining.

00:12:39.160 And so anyone who does that,

00:12:40.720 anyone who carries a burden with dignity and with maturity and who does not

00:12:45.220 expect other people to carry it for them,

00:12:47.320 anyone in that category,

00:12:48.160 I have sympathy for all of those kinds of people,

00:12:50.120 all of them,

00:12:50.440 whatever the,

00:12:50.980 whatever the burden is,

00:12:51.980 even if it's a self-imposed burden.

00:12:54.840 Um,

00:12:56.460 I mean,

00:12:57.080 you could,

00:12:57.560 you know,

00:12:58.380 you could,

00:12:58.780 you could be in prison for,

00:13:00.020 for committing a crime and now you're,

00:13:02.480 you're,

00:13:02.720 you're dealing with your prison sentence.

00:13:05.120 And if you are acknowledging that you're not complaining,

00:13:08.680 you're not whining,

00:13:09.260 you're acknowledging that this is what you brought on yourself.

00:13:12.140 And so you're serving out your term with dignity,

00:13:14.580 then I would have great sympathy for you as well in that situation.

00:13:17.420 I think that's,

00:13:18.360 that's,

00:13:18.700 that is deserving of sympathy.

00:13:20.900 What I'm talking about are the people who make a choice,

00:13:24.740 even if it was an ill-informed choice,

00:13:26.840 a bad choice,

00:13:28.060 a financially unwise choice,

00:13:29.300 whatever,

00:13:29.540 they make that choice.

00:13:30.520 And now they're reaping the consequences and they're demanding sympathy and

00:13:37.140 constantly complaining about it.

00:13:38.100 That's the issue.

00:13:40.120 And especially when they expect other people to pay this idea of student loan

00:13:44.680 forgiveness,

00:13:45.480 which by the way,

00:13:47.180 the student loan forgiveness is a euphemism.

00:13:49.660 It's a misnomer.

00:13:51.020 It's not just forgiveness.

00:13:52.960 No one can just forgive you that you bought it.

00:13:55.860 Someone's got to pay for it.

00:13:57.440 That is a thing that you bought.

00:13:59.200 It's a product.

00:14:00.020 I mean,

00:14:00.260 education is now a product that you bought.

00:14:04.120 So if that loan is forgiven,

00:14:06.320 that means someone else is paying for it.

00:14:08.380 That's all it means.

00:14:09.300 And it means that the taxpayers are paying for it.

00:14:11.380 So the idea that taxpayers should have to foot the bill for this thing that you

00:14:17.900 bought is so repulsively immoral and stupid that I can't even fathom it.

00:14:24.600 I cannot even fathom the selfishness and arrogance and just cowardice of people

00:14:32.960 who would demand that someone else pay their student loan debt.

00:14:40.600 It's just,

00:14:41.400 it's unbelievable to me.

00:14:43.520 Yet this is very common among people in my generation.

00:14:47.000 A great amount,

00:14:47.480 I don't have the survey data in front of me,

00:14:49.040 but a great,

00:14:49.840 there's a high percentage of people around my age

00:14:52.340 who think that they are entitled to that.

00:14:56.240 And as I said,

00:14:56.840 I find it repulsively immoral and stupid,

00:14:59.700 that idea.

00:15:00.160 Especially because there doesn't even need to be,

00:15:05.460 there's no need for an especially here,

00:15:08.320 but I will add an especially,

00:15:11.380 especially because let's just be real about this.

00:15:15.380 Okay.

00:15:15.600 Let's,

00:15:16.120 let's,

00:15:16.600 let's be honest.

00:15:19.220 One of the primary reasons why people go,

00:15:23.780 especially to these expensive four-year institutions,

00:15:26.440 because you could go to a community college for two years.

00:15:29.880 And then if you want more than a two-year degree,

00:15:32.740 you could go and transfer your credits in most cases.

00:15:36.820 And,

00:15:37.080 you know,

00:15:37.260 you could,

00:15:37.540 you could cut your college tuition bill,

00:15:40.160 like in half doing that.

00:15:42.180 But you could,

00:15:44.180 there are also plenty of people who are at really expensive colleges,

00:15:46.820 and they could have gone to less expensive colleges.

00:15:49.700 Now,

00:15:50.280 most colleges are more expensive than they need to be,

00:15:53.180 but not all of them are astronomically expensive.

00:15:56.260 There are cheaper options that you could explore.

00:16:02.180 But a lot of people,

00:16:03.540 they want to go to the expensive four-year institution,

00:16:06.240 and they want to be there all four years.

00:16:08.700 They want to stay on campus.

00:16:09.640 They want to do all that.

00:16:11.980 Yeah,

00:16:12.240 some of it's because they've been told that this is how you get a good job

00:16:15.140 when you,

00:16:15.480 when you get out of college,

00:16:16.200 but also because they want the experience and they want the fun.

00:16:20.680 And that's how college is sold to high school students. 0.62

00:16:24.480 That's how the guidance counselors and the college recruiters and everything.

00:16:27.360 That's how they sell it.

00:16:28.600 It's not just about,

00:16:29.660 you'll get an education,

00:16:30.860 you'll get a job.

00:16:31.620 There's that,

00:16:32.140 but there's also,

00:16:32.720 it's a great experience.

00:16:33.840 It's,

00:16:34.300 you know,

00:16:34.440 it's what all your friends are doing and it's,

00:16:36.120 it's,

00:16:36.280 it'll be a fun college experience.

00:16:38.380 You're never going to get that experience again,

00:16:40.620 four years in college.

00:16:41.720 And yeah,

00:16:42.540 I can tell based on what I've,

00:16:44.880 what I saw,

00:16:45.640 even though I didn't go to college and based on what any of my friends will tell

00:16:48.720 me,

00:16:49.060 it was,

00:16:49.380 it was a,

00:16:49.760 it was a unique experience.

00:16:51.360 You're never going to have an experience.

00:16:52.460 It is essentially like a four year vacation.

00:16:56.560 It is a vacation from adulthood and from everything.

00:16:59.060 And you just get to party all the time if you want to and live in a way that you will

00:17:03.340 never be able to live again.

00:17:05.000 So great,

00:17:05.440 great.

00:17:05.760 Good for you.

00:17:06.940 But the fact that you took on this debt in part because you wanted that and now,

00:17:11.380 and now you're complaining about it.

00:17:14.600 Just be honest.

00:17:15.480 A big part of the reason you wanted to go to college because you wanted to have fun.

00:17:18.540 I mean,

00:17:18.700 just be honest about it,

00:17:19.900 but you can't be honest about it because then you'd have to admit that you want us to

00:17:25.440 pay for this thing that you did because it was fun.

00:17:28.120 So when it comes to people who already have that student loan debt and have already paid

00:17:40.080 for it or they haven't paid for it yet,

00:17:42.220 but they've already signed on the dotted line,

00:17:44.020 they've gone through college and now they have the debt to pay for.

00:17:46.940 So the only thing we can really say to them is,

00:17:50.760 and maybe there are nicer ways to put it,

00:17:52.360 but basically the message is suck it up buttercup and pay for it because that's your, 0.81

00:17:56.740 I have debt.

00:17:57.560 You know,

00:17:58.000 a mortgage is a lot of debt.

00:17:59.500 I have that.

00:18:00.180 You know,

00:18:00.300 I,

00:18:00.540 so if you have no mortgage,

00:18:02.000 but you got student loan debt,

00:18:03.120 I have more debt than you do.

00:18:04.500 Plus I've got my wife's debt.

00:18:05.620 So,

00:18:06.120 and I'm not whining.

00:18:07.000 So you shouldn't whine either.

00:18:08.140 I don't expect your sympathy.

00:18:09.560 I'm not going to give any to you.

00:18:10.820 You just be an adult and deal with it.

00:18:12.340 All right.

00:18:13.240 Now for everyone else though,

00:18:15.960 that's for the people who've,

00:18:18.220 who are already in it and have already made that choice.

00:18:20.420 Now they got to deal with it.

00:18:21.160 But when it comes to kids who are getting out of high school and who have not yet signed on the dotted line,

00:18:27.460 well,

00:18:28.460 then I do think our message to them should be very different.

00:18:31.200 Our message should not be,

00:18:32.320 yeah,

00:18:32.520 sign on the dotted line and then suck it up and deal with it.

00:18:35.520 If we can prevent them from making that choice or,

00:18:38.460 or get them to think twice about it or consider other options,

00:18:41.260 well,

00:18:41.380 that would be a very good thing.

00:18:44.440 But see,

00:18:44.920 that's the other problem is that we all complain about how expensive college is,

00:18:48.740 but then very few people want to consider the other options.

00:18:55.760 So we all say,

00:18:56.680 yeah,

00:18:56.800 college is really expensive.

00:18:57.720 It shouldn't be so expensive,

00:18:58.560 but everyone should go to it anyway.

00:19:01.120 Well,

00:19:01.360 if that's the approach,

00:19:02.220 if that's the attitude,

00:19:02.960 then it's never going to get better.

00:19:04.860 College is never going to get less expensive if we all just send our kids there anyway,

00:19:10.360 regardless.

00:19:11.380 The conclusion should be college is really expensive.

00:19:18.840 It's way too expensive.

00:19:19.840 So you should only do that if you know,

00:19:26.820 if you have a plan in mind and you know that,

00:19:30.160 that going to an expensive four-year institution is a necessary part of that plan.

00:19:36.200 That should be our message to kids.

00:19:40.420 And it boggles my mind that anyone would disagree with this,

00:19:42.820 but a lot of people do.

00:19:44.120 Even now,

00:19:44.720 even now,

00:19:45.240 we all know how,

00:19:45.940 how crushing the student loan debt,

00:19:47.280 like a trillion dollars in outstanding student loan debt.

00:19:49.980 Even in spite of that,

00:19:50.920 there are still so many people who say,

00:19:52.240 yeah,

00:19:52.440 you know what,

00:19:52.720 just go and figure it out.

00:19:54.020 And just go to college and you'll figure it out.

00:19:55.540 It's such an irresponsible thing to do.

00:19:59.140 It's an even more irresponsible thing to encourage our kids to do.

00:20:02.500 The message to our kids should be,

00:20:04.060 before you sign the sheet of paper for the loan.

00:20:09.580 You should have some idea about what your plan is and what you're going to do with this.

00:20:16.740 And you should have some idea as to whether or not this really expensive four-year academic vacation

00:20:23.960 is actually necessary for you.

00:20:26.520 Maybe it is.

00:20:27.320 Maybe you want to be a doctor.

00:20:28.500 You want to be an engineer.

00:20:29.280 You want to be an architect.

00:20:31.680 You know,

00:20:32.240 you want to be a lawyer,

00:20:33.340 whatever.

00:20:33.440 There are many things or vocations,

00:20:38.320 occupations in life that would necessitate this.

00:20:43.180 In which case,

00:20:44.000 absolutely.

00:20:46.420 But if you want to do something that's a little bit more hands-on,

00:20:48.920 if you want to,

00:20:49.740 you know,

00:20:50.120 work in a trade,

00:20:53.860 you know,

00:20:54.040 if you want to,

00:20:54.900 I mean,

00:20:55.160 there are many other occupations that you might be considering,

00:20:59.700 in which case that four-year institution might be unnecessary.

00:21:03.940 It might be a hindrance in the long run.

00:21:06.560 Or you might say,

00:21:07.540 I have absolutely no idea.

00:21:09.800 I'm 18 years old.

00:21:10.840 I just got out of high school.

00:21:12.000 I have no clue what I want to do with my life at all.

00:21:14.960 In which case,

00:21:16.800 obviously,

00:21:17.400 you shouldn't just go right to a college and take on all that debt without having any idea as to whether it will actually be necessary for you.

00:21:30.800 But in that case,

00:21:32.420 clearly the best path is to go get a job for a while,

00:21:36.400 take your time,

00:21:37.700 figure out what you want to do,

00:21:39.420 what you're good at,

00:21:40.140 what your skills are,

00:21:40.940 what your passions are.

00:21:42.220 And then at that point,

00:21:44.640 if you realize that a four-year institution is necessary,

00:21:46.860 then you can go.

00:21:47.820 And there's no disadvantage at all.

00:21:51.820 Yeah,

00:21:52.040 you're two years,

00:21:52.880 you're a few years behind,

00:21:54.180 but what does that even mean?

00:21:55.040 Behind who?

00:21:56.320 Behind what?

00:21:59.640 And as you've fallen behind,

00:22:01.760 what you've actually done is,

00:22:02.980 you've gotten some real-world experience,

00:22:04.880 you've built a little bit of a resume,

00:22:06.160 and you've made some money,

00:22:07.600 and you've saved some money.

00:22:09.020 And so it's a win-win in that case.

00:22:12.460 All right.

00:22:14.040 Let's go on to an update of a story.

00:22:17.080 You remember last week with the Covington Saga,

00:22:19.460 a big part of that story,

00:22:20.740 and especially depressing and shameful part of that story,

00:22:24.540 was how some in Catholic leadership,

00:22:27.800 bishops and so forth,

00:22:28.940 came out right away to condemn the boys,

00:22:31.520 not even waiting for the facts to come in.

00:22:33.580 And one of the cowards who did that was Bishop Rogers,

00:22:36.140 Joseph Foyes,

00:22:37.640 who's the Bishop of Covington,

00:22:39.560 and he turned his back on the kids in his own diocese.

00:22:43.180 I mean,

00:22:43.360 he just threw them right under the bus,

00:22:45.280 had no leadership,

00:22:46.540 no courage at all.

00:22:48.300 And then the facts came out,

00:22:49.900 and he looked like not only a coward, 0.54

00:22:53.080 but a fool.

00:22:55.120 So over the weekend,

00:22:56.940 or late last week,

00:22:58.000 he issued an apology,

00:23:00.020 sort of.

00:23:01.380 I'm going to read this sort of apology to you.

00:23:06.140 from the Bishop of Covington.

00:23:09.140 It says,

00:23:09.920 My dear Covington Catholic parents,

00:23:12.280 since Saturday,

00:23:12.920 January 2019,

00:23:14.640 the events at the Lincoln Memorial

00:23:15.780 following the annual March for Life

00:23:17.180 have gained international attention.

00:23:21.300 Within hours,

00:23:22.200 we were pressured from all sides

00:23:23.620 to make a statement regarding a video clip

00:23:25.460 which reportedly showed students

00:23:26.700 from Covington Catholic High School

00:23:27.640 being disrespectful to Native American elder

00:23:29.320 Nathan Phillips.

00:23:31.060 Based on what the video clip showed,

00:23:32.520 we condemned the actions of students

00:23:34.080 who engaged in the alleged disrespect

00:23:35.560 and promised to investigate the matter.

00:23:39.600 Blah, blah, blah,

00:23:40.560 so on and so forth.

00:23:43.280 We are sorry that this situation

00:23:45.320 has caused disruption

00:23:46.700 in the lives of so many.

00:23:49.120 We apologize to anyone

00:23:50.700 who has been offended in any way

00:23:52.420 by either of our statements,

00:23:53.960 which were made with goodwill

00:23:55.400 based on the information we had.

00:23:57.100 We should not have allowed ourselves

00:23:58.640 to be bullied and pressured

00:24:00.100 into making a statement prematurely,

00:24:01.900 and we take full responsibility for it.

00:24:03.760 I especially apologize

00:24:04.660 to Nicholas Sandman and his family

00:24:06.200 as well as to all Covecath families

00:24:08.520 who have felt abandoned

00:24:09.780 during this ordeal.

00:24:10.620 Nicholas, unfortunately,

00:24:11.460 has become the face of these allegations

00:24:12.840 based on video clips.

00:24:14.200 That is not fair.

00:24:15.160 It is not just.

00:24:16.060 We now await the results

00:24:17.080 of the investigation.

00:24:17.920 It is my hope and expectation

00:24:18.960 that the results will exonerate our students

00:24:21.020 so that they can move forward

00:24:22.380 with their lives.

00:24:23.080 In any event,

00:24:23.640 we will make the final report public

00:24:25.160 once it has been revealed.

00:24:26.640 In the meantime,

00:24:27.180 we call on all those

00:24:27.980 who continue to spew venom and hate

00:24:29.740 to desist

00:24:30.520 and instead pray

00:24:31.440 for a peaceful resolution

00:24:32.500 to this tragic spectacle.

00:24:36.480 Okay, so a couple of problems here.

00:24:40.500 First of all,

00:24:41.100 you're still invested.

00:24:42.100 What is there to investigate?

00:24:44.020 What does this investigation entail?

00:24:45.880 Do you have like CSI out there

00:24:47.740 doing fingerprint analysis?

00:24:49.840 What kind of investigation

00:24:51.240 do you need to do?

00:24:51.900 It's on video.

00:24:53.360 Look at the video.

00:24:54.400 You can see what happened.

00:24:56.100 And that's it.

00:24:57.000 You can clearly see

00:24:58.480 that your students

00:25:00.300 were being racially harassed,

00:25:02.780 verbally assaulted

00:25:03.520 by this other group

00:25:04.400 and then Nathan Phillips came up

00:25:05.460 and then you can also see

00:25:06.520 that he lied about it.

00:25:07.340 So this is all clear to everyone.

00:25:08.840 There's nothing to investigate.

00:25:11.120 So saying,

00:25:11.500 well, we're still investigating.

00:25:12.880 This was just his way

00:25:14.280 of getting out of

00:25:15.160 completely acknowledging

00:25:16.760 that actually

00:25:18.520 he was totally wrong.

00:25:19.700 The students were innocent

00:25:20.460 and, you know,

00:25:21.920 actually Native American elder

00:25:23.860 Nathan Phillips

00:25:24.520 is a bully and a liar. 0.97

00:25:26.220 See, the bishop

00:25:26.720 doesn't want to acknowledge

00:25:27.700 that he's trying to put that off.

00:25:30.860 And so he says,

00:25:31.780 well, we're still investigating.

00:25:33.900 And his apology

00:25:34.960 is really a non-apology.

00:25:36.080 It's a classic non-apology.

00:25:38.080 We apologize to anyone

00:25:39.240 who was offended.

00:25:41.120 We don't really necessarily

00:25:42.320 apologize directly

00:25:43.660 for everything that we did.

00:25:45.080 And we're not even acknowledging,

00:25:46.740 actually,

00:25:47.140 that we were necessarily wrong.

00:25:48.320 We might still have been right,

00:25:50.240 but we were a little bit premature.

00:25:51.580 So if anyone was offended,

00:25:52.620 then we apologize.

00:25:55.180 So it's kind of a non-apology.

00:25:56.440 But my biggest problem is

00:25:57.560 you're admitting

00:26:00.860 that you allowed yourself

00:26:02.000 to be bullied

00:26:02.880 by what?

00:26:04.900 Some mean Twitter comment?

00:26:06.400 You're the bishop

00:26:07.580 of a diocese.

00:26:10.460 And you're admitting

00:26:11.340 that you were bullied

00:26:12.400 by mean Internet comments.

00:26:14.720 And not only were you bullied

00:26:16.080 into making a statement,

00:26:17.200 but it only took like

00:26:18.500 five minutes of bullying.

00:26:20.960 I mean,

00:26:21.460 this statement from Covington,

00:26:23.120 the Covington Diocese,

00:26:23.860 came out within hours.

00:26:25.000 So that's how quickly

00:26:26.840 they caved.

00:26:27.720 And now he's saying,

00:26:28.380 yeah, you know what?

00:26:28.840 We really were bullied there.

00:26:31.100 So what you're really admitting

00:26:32.360 is that you are

00:26:33.100 a completely spineless jellyfish

00:26:36.280 without the capacity

00:26:38.380 to stand up against

00:26:39.500 even the slightest amount

00:26:40.880 of pressure.

00:26:42.760 And the problem is

00:26:43.740 you're not alleviating

00:26:44.760 that impression now

00:26:45.640 or you're not really showing

00:26:46.960 that you've changed your ways

00:26:51.140 because when the pressure was,

00:26:54.820 when the public opinion

00:26:55.880 was against the students,

00:26:57.200 you came out

00:26:57.820 and condemned them.

00:26:58.700 And now that it's shifted

00:26:59.660 back in the other direction,

00:27:00.600 you've come out and said,

00:27:01.720 oh, actually, you know.

00:27:03.980 So you're still just shifting

00:27:05.480 with the winds is all.

00:27:06.520 And you've still got

00:27:07.660 your finger in the air

00:27:08.480 trying to judge

00:27:09.260 where the wind is going.

00:27:10.320 And you're still equivocating

00:27:11.680 a little bit.

00:27:13.220 But just that statement

00:27:14.540 of we allowed ourselves

00:27:15.540 to be bullied.

00:27:16.240 We were bullied.

00:27:17.020 You know, I don't give you

00:27:19.240 any credit at all

00:27:20.300 for acknowledging that.

00:27:21.360 Yeah, we know that it's true.

00:27:22.660 But I give you no credit

00:27:24.060 for this apology.

00:27:25.300 And the very fact

00:27:26.600 that you could be bullied

00:27:28.160 by internet trolls,

00:27:32.180 bullied into throwing

00:27:33.840 your own kids under the bus,

00:27:35.480 I mean, it's just so shameful

00:27:37.580 and embarrassing.

00:27:41.100 And unfortunately,

00:27:42.280 there's nothing now

00:27:43.120 that this bishop can do.

00:27:44.100 He's just a coward.

00:27:45.480 And he's a fool.

00:27:47.620 And that's all.

00:27:48.700 Nothing's going to change that.

00:27:50.340 That's not going to change.

00:27:51.500 That's just who he is.

00:27:54.340 And I know you could say,

00:27:55.320 well, but he apologized.

00:27:56.440 What else?

00:27:56.860 You know, once you apologize.

00:27:58.000 Yeah, apology is fine.

00:27:59.040 But just because you apologize,

00:28:00.440 that doesn't necessarily

00:28:01.320 change anything.

00:28:03.400 That doesn't change

00:28:04.420 who you are,

00:28:05.300 what you did.

00:28:06.860 And if you're apologizing

00:28:08.320 for being a gutless coward, 0.77

00:28:10.660 well, you're still

00:28:11.560 probably a gutless coward.

00:28:12.700 Nothing has happened

00:28:15.580 in the last week

00:28:16.180 to make you not

00:28:16.940 a gutless coward.

00:28:20.820 All right.

00:28:21.820 Let's get some of your emails.

00:28:23.680 If you want to message

00:28:24.780 the show

00:28:25.780 with any comments,

00:28:28.700 questions,

00:28:29.720 concerns,

00:28:31.400 mattwalsshow

00:28:32.080 at gmail.com,

00:28:33.240 mattwalsshow

00:28:33.840 at gmail.com.

00:28:34.900 So we'll go to the inbox now.

00:28:36.740 I thought there were

00:28:37.080 some good emails

00:28:38.160 I wanted to talk about today.

00:28:40.020 So this is from Bethany.

00:28:41.200 She says,

00:28:41.920 you wondered why

00:28:42.700 A Quiet Place

00:28:43.540 was shut out

00:28:44.120 for Best Picture

00:28:44.820 at the Oscars

00:28:46.080 and speculated that perhaps

00:28:47.320 it's because of

00:28:48.220 the heroic father trope.

00:28:49.920 But no,

00:28:50.580 the heroic father

00:28:51.360 is allowed

00:28:51.880 and even somewhat

00:28:52.580 encouraged lately

00:28:53.300 in Hollywood.

00:28:54.260 It is worth considering,

00:28:55.320 however,

00:28:55.560 that the movie

00:28:56.120 was a picture

00:28:56.860 of an intact,

00:28:58.160 natural family,

00:28:59.680 mother,

00:29:00.020 father,

00:29:00.380 children,

00:29:00.980 and also that

00:29:01.900 the climax

00:29:02.460 of the picture

00:29:03.280 involved not only

00:29:04.080 a father sacrificing

00:29:05.020 his life for his children,

00:29:06.160 but,

00:29:06.920 and this is probably

00:29:07.480 the real kicker,

00:29:08.220 a woman risking her life 0.96

00:29:09.460 to give birth to 0.76

00:29:10.360 and save her baby

00:29:11.800 as opposed,

00:29:12.900 as opposed to say

00:29:13.580 smothering the problematic

00:29:14.520 thing at birth.

00:29:15.740 Enough said?

00:29:17.600 Yes,

00:29:18.040 Bethany,

00:29:18.340 that is enough said.

00:29:18.840 I think it's a great point,

00:29:19.800 actually.

00:29:20.860 I,

00:29:21.040 you know,

00:29:21.540 I hadn't thought of that

00:29:22.560 for some reason,

00:29:23.240 but we were talking

00:29:24.960 last week

00:29:25.440 about the

00:29:25.880 really

00:29:27.460 unimpressive

00:29:29.620 collection of

00:29:31.360 Best Picture nominees

00:29:32.920 for this year's Oscars,

00:29:34.040 and they're nominating

00:29:35.320 like stupid

00:29:36.260 comic book movies

00:29:38.180 about men in rubber suits

00:29:39.640 running around

00:29:40.120 fighting bad guys

00:29:40.840 when there were actually

00:29:41.960 good movies that came out

00:29:43.320 this year,

00:29:43.820 such as

00:29:44.460 Quiet Place,

00:29:45.400 also First Man,

00:29:46.580 also a movie called

00:29:47.380 Hostels,

00:29:48.040 I think it was very good

00:29:48.600 with Christian Bale,

00:29:50.140 and those movies

00:29:52.860 were all shut out.

00:29:55.000 Quiet Place,

00:29:55.740 why was it shut out?

00:29:56.420 I think this is

00:29:56.940 probably one of the reasons.

00:29:58.280 It's got a very

00:29:59.080 pro-life message.

00:30:01.000 This is from

00:30:02.040 Jake,

00:30:03.580 he says,

00:30:04.500 I'm not necessarily

00:30:05.060 a young conservative,

00:30:05.960 but I do agree

00:30:06.580 on many ideas

00:30:07.220 put forth by the likes

00:30:08.260 of the Daily Wire

00:30:09.180 and in general

00:30:09.740 have a common discontent

00:30:11.060 for the double standards

00:30:12.240 and censorship

00:30:12.720 of the social left.

00:30:14.000 What advice

00:30:14.620 would you give

00:30:15.200 to someone like me

00:30:16.040 going into university

00:30:17.100 where I'll face

00:30:18.140 almost guaranteed

00:30:18.880 hostility for merely

00:30:19.840 supporting facts,

00:30:21.000 acting in a non-arbitrary

00:30:22.420 way,

00:30:23.540 et cetera?

00:30:25.700 Hi,

00:30:26.240 Jake.

00:30:26.460 Well,

00:30:26.800 I'll just say this

00:30:28.360 briefly.

00:30:29.300 The left's primary

00:30:30.300 way of shutting

00:30:31.080 people down,

00:30:31.820 especially on

00:30:32.900 college campuses,

00:30:33.580 is simply

00:30:34.800 to label them

00:30:35.640 racist, 0.77

00:30:36.900 homophobic,

00:30:37.560 bigoted,

00:30:37.960 sexist, 0.84

00:30:38.760 whatever.

00:30:40.440 All the ists 0.98

00:30:41.540 and isms

00:30:42.180 and phobias.

00:30:43.760 So all you really

00:30:44.740 have to do

00:30:45.380 is remember

00:30:46.620 that these are

00:30:47.340 just words.

00:30:48.140 They mean nothing.

00:30:49.500 They are the equivalent 0.86

00:30:50.640 of somebody trying

00:30:51.700 to drown out

00:30:52.640 your opinion

00:30:53.160 by plugging

00:30:53.780 their ears

00:30:54.700 and making

00:30:55.100 farting noises.

00:30:56.220 That's all it is.

00:30:57.640 These labels

00:30:58.300 are just

00:30:58.920 farting noises.

00:31:00.000 That's all you

00:31:00.780 have to think of it.

00:31:01.660 So ignore them.

00:31:03.140 Be unfazed

00:31:04.180 by them.

00:31:05.880 And also

00:31:06.560 just accept

00:31:07.280 going into it

00:31:08.160 that you're

00:31:09.360 probably not

00:31:09.920 going to be

00:31:10.340 terribly popular

00:31:11.260 on campus

00:31:11.920 if this is a

00:31:12.580 liberal school

00:31:13.120 and you don't

00:31:13.700 share all of

00:31:14.540 their beliefs,

00:31:17.480 which it's

00:31:18.380 required that you

00:31:19.100 do share

00:31:19.440 as far as

00:31:19.820 they're concerned.

00:31:20.360 So if you don't,

00:31:21.140 then you're not

00:31:21.420 going to be

00:31:21.620 terribly popular,

00:31:22.300 but you're

00:31:23.580 going to graduate

00:31:24.060 and never see

00:31:24.800 most of those

00:31:25.540 people ever again

00:31:26.240 anyway,

00:31:26.600 so it really

00:31:26.960 doesn't matter.

00:31:27.360 I don't mean

00:31:29.280 to dismiss

00:31:30.220 the challenges

00:31:30.920 of being

00:31:31.320 a conservative

00:31:31.880 or at least

00:31:32.380 a non-liberal

00:31:33.160 on a college

00:31:33.520 campus.

00:31:34.000 I know it

00:31:34.440 can be

00:31:34.700 very difficult,

00:31:35.480 but at the

00:31:35.920 end of the

00:31:36.300 day,

00:31:36.740 all it really

00:31:37.540 is,

00:31:38.140 is just

00:31:39.780 them shouting

00:31:40.440 labels at you

00:31:41.320 and being

00:31:41.880 mean,

00:31:42.560 and then

00:31:42.920 who cares,

00:31:44.040 and then you'll

00:31:44.340 graduate,

00:31:44.720 you'll never

00:31:44.940 see them again,

00:31:45.500 doesn't matter.

00:31:48.180 This from

00:31:49.080 Anonymous

00:31:49.940 says,

00:31:50.820 Being pro-LGBT

00:32:09.340 in this context

00:32:10.080 is often synonymous

00:32:10.980 with support

00:32:11.600 for heretical

00:32:12.180 ideology.

00:32:13.520 Is it possible

00:32:14.240 to let the LGBT

00:32:15.220 agenda into the

00:32:16.380 church while also

00:32:17.580 standing firm

00:32:18.500 on scriptural

00:32:19.160 authority?

00:32:20.080 I need direction

00:32:20.720 and I don't

00:32:21.100 know if I

00:32:21.580 should stay.

00:32:22.440 Well,

00:32:22.700 I'm sorry

00:32:23.060 you're in

00:32:23.360 this difficult

00:32:24.400 position.

00:32:25.600 I would say

00:32:26.120 no,

00:32:26.400 it's not

00:32:26.700 possible at

00:32:27.320 all to make

00:32:27.860 the LGBT

00:32:28.300 agenda and

00:32:29.120 scripture coincide.

00:32:30.020 It's just not

00:32:30.400 possible.

00:32:31.040 These are

00:32:31.400 directly opposed.

00:32:32.420 These are

00:32:32.740 direct opposites.

00:32:33.980 In order to

00:32:34.540 accept homosexuality 1.00

00:32:35.860 as good

00:32:36.460 and virtuous

00:32:38.380 or at least

00:32:38.900 morally neutral,

00:32:39.920 you would have

00:32:40.420 to throw out

00:32:41.340 the many,

00:32:42.980 many scripture

00:32:43.460 passages that

00:32:44.420 condemn it.

00:32:45.480 And you'd have

00:32:46.120 to get rid

00:32:46.580 of the gospels

00:32:47.300 too because

00:32:47.700 Jesus specifically

00:32:48.600 defines marriage

00:32:49.460 as between

00:32:50.420 a man and

00:32:50.780 a woman and

00:32:51.520 you'd have

00:32:51.740 to throw

00:32:52.000 out 2,000

00:32:52.600 years of

00:32:52.900 Christian

00:32:53.120 teaching.

00:32:53.520 So what

00:32:54.160 are you

00:32:54.380 left with?

00:32:55.880 You've thrown

00:32:56.520 out all of

00:32:57.000 these books

00:32:57.640 in the Bible,

00:32:58.040 you've thrown

00:32:58.280 out the

00:32:59.000 gospels,

00:32:59.500 you've thrown

00:32:59.780 out Christian 0.99

00:33:00.300 teaching.

00:33:02.300 Whatever few

00:33:03.220 books and

00:33:03.880 passages you

00:33:04.620 have left,

00:33:06.100 there's no

00:33:07.240 longer any

00:33:07.700 context or

00:33:08.740 foundation for

00:33:09.700 them and

00:33:10.580 there's no

00:33:10.860 reason to

00:33:11.280 believe them

00:33:11.720 or take them

00:33:12.120 seriously because

00:33:13.340 you've discarded

00:33:13.880 everything else.

00:33:14.740 So that's why

00:33:16.060 you just can't

00:33:16.560 do it.

00:33:17.580 A choice has

00:33:18.540 to be made.

00:33:19.020 Either we're

00:33:19.340 going to stick

00:33:19.700 with Christian

00:33:20.920 teaching and

00:33:21.660 the Bible and

00:33:22.660 what the

00:33:23.020 gospels say or

00:33:25.300 we're going to

00:33:25.780 adopt the LGBT 1.00

00:33:26.640 agenda.

00:33:27.360 So once a

00:33:28.220 church says

00:33:28.760 we're going

00:33:29.220 with the

00:33:29.480 LGBT agenda

00:33:30.320 it means that

00:33:30.740 they're tossing

00:33:31.140 out the Bible

00:33:31.680 and if I was

00:33:33.520 in that church

00:33:34.040 I would allow

00:33:35.180 myself to be

00:33:35.780 tossed out

00:33:36.220 right along

00:33:36.600 with it.

00:33:40.580 This from

00:33:41.240 Brad, he

00:33:41.700 says,

00:33:41.940 Hey Matt,

00:33:42.260 my wife and

00:33:42.740 I are expecting

00:33:43.540 our second

00:33:44.060 child in May.

00:33:45.060 I was wondering

00:33:45.500 if you have

00:33:45.840 any tips on

00:33:46.480 naming kids.

00:33:47.160 Brad, I

00:33:47.620 have long

00:33:48.140 wanted to

00:33:49.080 have a boy

00:33:49.720 and name

00:33:50.180 him Mulch.

00:33:51.660 Okay, which

00:33:52.560 I think is

00:33:52.900 just a beautiful

00:33:53.520 name.

00:33:53.940 It's a very

00:33:54.640 rugged, it's

00:33:55.620 an earthy

00:33:56.360 name with

00:33:57.360 some real

00:33:57.940 just substance

00:33:59.600 to it, right?

00:34:00.840 But we've

00:34:01.320 had two boys

00:34:02.040 and my wife

00:34:02.740 she just 0.65

00:34:03.280 refuses for

00:34:04.400 some reason

00:34:04.960 to name one

00:34:07.320 of our boys

00:34:07.760 Mulch. 0.94

00:34:08.260 So I am

00:34:09.020 handing that

00:34:10.800 name over

00:34:11.840 to you.

00:34:13.640 And really

00:34:14.300 it could be

00:34:14.700 it could go

00:34:15.820 with either

00:34:16.240 gender because

00:34:16.800 I'm progressive

00:34:17.320 in that way.

00:34:18.360 So it is

00:34:19.520 yours now.

00:34:21.420 Cherish it.

00:34:23.980 Finally,

00:34:24.700 well no,

00:34:25.420 actually finally

00:34:25.960 I got two more.

00:34:26.820 This is from

00:34:27.500 Landon.

00:34:28.000 He says,

00:34:28.300 Matt, I saw

00:34:28.720 on Twitter

00:34:29.040 you responding

00:34:29.700 to that tweet

00:34:30.300 from PETA

00:34:30.920 comparing eating

00:34:32.260 sheep to

00:34:32.840 eating dogs.

00:34:33.800 Here's my

00:34:34.160 question.

00:34:35.000 Why isn't

00:34:35.720 it okay to

00:34:36.320 eat dogs?

00:34:36.960 What exactly

00:34:37.580 would be the

00:34:38.000 problem with

00:34:38.500 that?

00:34:38.900 Not that I

00:34:39.440 want to,

00:34:40.080 I've just

00:34:40.560 always been

00:34:41.080 curious how

00:34:41.720 we decide

00:34:42.260 which animals

00:34:43.200 to eat

00:34:43.680 and which

00:34:45.660 not to.

00:34:47.240 Yeah,

00:34:47.440 he's,

00:34:47.760 there was a,

00:34:49.220 PETA did

00:34:49.680 one of their

00:34:50.320 tried and

00:34:51.880 true publicity

00:34:52.900 stunts,

00:34:53.520 I think it

00:34:53.760 was in

00:34:53.920 Australia,

00:34:54.360 where they

00:34:55.180 pretended to

00:34:55.880 roast a

00:34:56.400 dog.

00:34:56.660 It wasn't

00:34:56.840 a real

00:34:57.100 dog,

00:34:57.540 but although

00:34:58.820 it could,

00:34:59.180 I mean PETA,

00:34:59.860 they do kill

00:35:00.920 hundreds of

00:35:01.540 dogs in

00:35:01.960 their shelters

00:35:02.720 every year.

00:35:03.420 So, you

00:35:03.840 know, but

00:35:04.060 no, this

00:35:04.360 was a fake

00:35:06.700 dog that

00:35:07.260 they were

00:35:07.460 pretending

00:35:07.700 to roast

00:35:08.320 over a

00:35:09.940 grill trying

00:35:11.220 to make some

00:35:11.660 sort of stupid

00:35:12.140 point about,

00:35:12.640 hey, if

00:35:12.960 you're

00:35:13.080 uncomfortable

00:35:13.420 eating a

00:35:13.900 dog, then

00:35:14.700 you should

00:35:14.940 be uncomfortable

00:35:15.360 eating sheep

00:35:15.980 and pigs

00:35:16.380 and cows

00:35:17.520 and stuff.

00:35:18.480 All right, so,

00:35:19.580 but why don't

00:35:20.040 we eat dogs?

00:35:20.660 Well, it's

00:35:21.000 purely a social

00:35:21.660 convention, of

00:35:22.200 course, that's

00:35:22.640 all.

00:35:22.880 There's nothing

00:35:23.480 objectively wrong

00:35:24.360 with eating

00:35:24.700 dogs.

00:35:25.220 They do it

00:35:25.840 in other

00:35:26.080 countries.

00:35:27.220 Obviously,

00:35:27.580 there's not

00:35:27.980 some sort

00:35:28.320 of objective

00:35:28.900 thing about

00:35:29.840 dogs that

00:35:30.640 makes them

00:35:31.080 more valuable

00:35:31.800 than, say,

00:35:32.400 pigs.

00:35:33.040 Pigs are

00:35:33.420 intelligent,

00:35:34.260 four-legged

00:35:34.760 mammals, just 0.99

00:35:37.100 like dogs.

00:35:37.880 Cows are

00:35:38.600 less intelligent,

00:35:39.680 but they're

00:35:39.940 four-legged

00:35:40.440 mammals.

00:35:41.020 So, it's

00:35:43.300 just our

00:35:43.680 social custom

00:35:44.520 to eat

00:35:44.920 cows and

00:35:45.440 pigs and

00:35:46.120 not dogs,

00:35:46.940 and that's

00:35:47.200 all.

00:35:47.840 Now, I

00:35:48.220 have no

00:35:48.540 desire to

00:35:49.100 eat a

00:35:49.320 dog, but

00:35:50.160 if I was

00:35:50.540 starving or

00:35:51.460 something and

00:35:51.980 there was a

00:35:52.420 dog nearby,

00:35:53.400 you're damn

00:35:54.000 right I would

00:35:54.420 eat it.

00:35:54.740 and if I

00:35:56.960 was visiting a

00:35:58.220 foreign country

00:35:58.980 and someone

00:35:59.780 served Fido

00:36:01.900 up for

00:36:03.280 dinner, if

00:36:04.640 there was a

00:36:05.000 dog stir

00:36:05.600 fry or

00:36:06.060 something,

00:36:07.240 if there

00:36:08.380 was like

00:36:08.800 Rex lasagna,

00:36:10.560 whatever it is,

00:36:11.180 then I would

00:36:11.740 eat it because

00:36:12.240 I wouldn't

00:36:12.520 want to be

00:36:12.840 rude.

00:36:16.560 But, you

00:36:18.240 know,

00:36:18.420 generally I

00:36:19.320 wouldn't eat

00:36:19.540 dogs.

00:36:20.160 But by the

00:36:20.740 way, here's

00:36:21.320 the point.

00:36:21.620 when I

00:36:23.240 call it a

00:36:23.740 social convention,

00:36:25.260 that doesn't

00:36:26.240 mean that it's

00:36:26.680 necessarily

00:36:27.180 arbitrary or

00:36:28.240 meaningless.

00:36:28.820 That's not

00:36:29.100 what I mean.

00:36:30.640 In other

00:36:30.980 words, even

00:36:32.180 though I

00:36:32.480 don't think

00:36:32.820 there's anything

00:36:33.260 objectively wrong

00:36:34.200 with eating a

00:36:35.000 dog, and I

00:36:35.940 wouldn't judge

00:36:37.460 other cultures

00:36:38.200 for eating

00:36:38.760 dogs, and I

00:36:39.540 wouldn't sit

00:36:39.820 there and say,

00:36:40.340 no, you have

00:36:40.760 to eat pigs

00:36:41.240 instead because

00:36:41.780 that's what we

00:36:42.320 prefer, I

00:36:44.060 would still

00:36:44.440 agree that it

00:36:44.880 would be really

00:36:45.280 weird for

00:36:46.160 someone in our

00:36:46.860 country to eat

00:36:47.620 a dog, unless

00:36:48.720 they're starving,

00:36:49.400 of course.

00:36:50.520 And that's

00:36:50.880 because the

00:36:51.340 social convention

00:36:52.180 stems from

00:36:52.880 another social

00:36:53.580 convention, which

00:36:54.640 is to value

00:36:55.340 dogs above

00:36:56.380 other animals, to

00:36:57.660 domesticate them,

00:36:58.580 bring them into

00:36:59.080 the family, and

00:37:00.260 so on.

00:37:00.960 And so in that

00:37:01.800 context, it would

00:37:02.760 be very weird and

00:37:03.740 inappropriate to

00:37:04.420 eat one.

00:37:05.300 But there are

00:37:05.780 some countries that

00:37:06.480 simply don't have

00:37:07.300 that context, that

00:37:08.080 don't value dogs

00:37:08.900 the same way, that

00:37:09.660 don't, that

00:37:10.540 don't, um, just

00:37:12.480 don't see them the

00:37:13.340 same way.

00:37:14.580 And so in that

00:37:15.880 context, they're

00:37:16.520 fighting.

00:37:16.960 This is not moral

00:37:17.860 relativism, by the

00:37:18.780 way.

00:37:18.880 As I said, the

00:37:19.400 objective morality

00:37:20.320 remains the same, I'm

00:37:22.260 just talking about the

00:37:22.940 general appropriateness, as

00:37:25.280 the philosophers might

00:37:26.280 put it, the what is

00:37:27.720 most fitting.

00:37:29.240 Um, so I'm talking

00:37:30.700 about what is most

00:37:31.300 fitting.

00:37:31.800 It is not fitting for

00:37:33.160 us to eat dogs in this

00:37:34.160 country, although it

00:37:34.800 might be in other

00:37:35.740 countries.

00:37:36.560 Finally, uh, an

00:37:38.640 email from someone that

00:37:40.780 I'll call Mark.

00:37:42.140 Mark writes in part,

00:37:43.880 hey, Matt, love the

00:37:44.520 show.

00:37:44.720 Just wondering if you

00:37:45.320 could help me out on

00:37:46.040 an issue.

00:37:46.400 I'm 23, in a

00:37:47.500 relationship for six

00:37:48.320 years.

00:37:49.020 She is also 23.

00:37:50.900 But we've been apart

00:37:51.960 due to university.

00:37:52.720 We're from Europe for

00:37:53.560 about four years.

00:37:54.200 We're together at the

00:37:54.880 weekends and all, but I

00:37:55.980 feel that after six

00:37:56.860 years, I barely had one

00:37:57.900 year of complete

00:37:58.500 experience with her.

00:37:59.320 I feel like I don't

00:37:59.880 really know her that

00:38:00.780 deeply.

00:38:01.280 And that makes me

00:38:02.080 insecure about moving

00:38:02.980 with her, moving in

00:38:04.020 with her, getting

00:38:04.500 married, et cetera.

00:38:05.900 Uh, well, you shouldn't

00:38:06.440 move in with her before

00:38:07.060 getting married because

00:38:07.720 statistics show that,

00:38:08.800 you know, if you move

00:38:10.160 in first, you're likely

00:38:11.180 to have divorce is much

00:38:11.940 higher.

00:38:12.180 So I would recommend

00:38:12.840 cutting that step out.

00:38:13.640 But anyway, um, lately

00:38:15.320 we've been discussing

00:38:16.100 some serious topics and

00:38:17.000 I noticed she doesn't

00:38:17.700 care about factual

00:38:18.600 things that much.

00:38:19.660 All that matters is how

00:38:20.500 people feel in her

00:38:21.600 opinion.

00:38:22.860 Everyone is right in

00:38:23.660 their interpretation of

00:38:24.460 the world and

00:38:24.900 situations.

00:38:25.780 Therefore, I cannot judge

00:38:26.860 or say someone is

00:38:27.760 wrong, according to

00:38:28.500 her.

00:38:28.980 I'm a Christian and a

00:38:29.760 conservative and I

00:38:30.380 wanted to know if you

00:38:31.220 have any piece of

00:38:31.780 advice on how I can

00:38:32.780 manage my relationships.

00:38:34.060 Saying it's doomed is

00:38:34.900 also an option.

00:38:36.320 Thank you for your

00:38:36.800 time.

00:38:37.920 Um, all right, well,

00:38:39.100 I'll put on my Dr.

00:38:39.840 Love hat here for just

00:38:40.800 one second.

00:38:41.540 So there are three

00:38:42.180 issues here.

00:38:42.700 First of all, there's

00:38:43.380 the distance, the

00:38:44.140 length there.

00:38:45.140 So there's the

00:38:45.560 distance, there's the

00:38:46.300 length of time you've

00:38:47.280 been together, and

00:38:48.240 there's the apparent

00:38:48.840 lack of shared value.

00:38:50.460 So those are three

00:38:51.000 different issues.

00:38:52.200 As for the distance,

00:38:53.120 that's not really an

00:38:53.880 issue or it wouldn't

00:38:55.740 be.

00:38:56.100 If everything else

00:38:56.980 lines up, my wife and 0.99

00:38:58.780 I, when we first met,

00:38:59.560 we were two and a half

00:39:00.120 hours apart.

00:39:00.860 It was, it was a, it

00:39:02.700 was a struggle, but it

00:39:03.740 wasn't, it wasn't an

00:39:04.660 issue.

00:39:05.040 It wasn't anything that

00:39:05.880 ever made either of us

00:39:06.980 consider breaking it

00:39:07.820 off.

00:39:08.480 So if everything else is

00:39:09.740 right, then the fact

00:39:10.640 that you've, you know,

00:39:11.500 that you're a few

00:39:12.120 hours apart really

00:39:13.160 isn't a big deal.

00:39:14.560 Lack of shared values.

00:39:17.520 Well, I will say, um,

00:39:19.780 that is much more of

00:39:22.020 an issue.

00:39:23.720 Although, you know, you

00:39:26.080 say, you talk about how

00:39:27.080 she's much more focused

00:39:28.100 on how people feel and

00:39:29.540 she's more focused on,

00:39:30.620 on feelings and

00:39:31.620 emotions and all of

00:39:33.040 that.

00:39:33.460 Well, most women are 1.00

00:39:34.560 like that to some

00:39:35.420 extent, which isn't to

00:39:36.480 say that they don't

00:39:37.040 care about facts at

00:39:37.960 all, but just the

00:39:38.900 reality is that women 1.00

00:39:39.840 are more relational

00:39:41.320 and they're more

00:39:41.900 focused on, on, uh,

00:39:43.320 emotions and more

00:39:44.080 empathetic and all of

00:39:45.600 that kind of thing.

00:39:46.660 And that's one of the

00:39:47.560 complimentary differences

00:39:48.940 between men and women 0.90

00:39:51.020 that makes everything

00:39:51.640 work.

00:39:52.780 So I can tell you that,

00:39:53.840 that, that my wife

00:39:55.560 being the empathetic

00:39:57.320 one, being the one

00:39:58.740 who's in touch with

00:39:59.520 feelings and all that

00:40:00.380 stuff, uh, that's very

00:40:01.900 good for me because I

00:40:02.620 struggle with that.

00:40:03.260 But, however, if you

00:40:07.740 lack a shared value

00:40:08.880 system, if she actually

00:40:10.600 is a moral relativist,

00:40:12.360 which you seem to also

00:40:13.140 be implying, and if you

00:40:14.760 feel like you aren't on

00:40:15.540 the same page because

00:40:16.920 you're a Christian

00:40:17.460 conservative and she's 0.99

00:40:18.280 not, then that's

00:40:19.560 something else entirely

00:40:20.520 and that is an issue,

00:40:21.520 that is an obstacle,

00:40:22.360 it's not insurmountable.

00:40:23.600 I've known plenty of

00:40:24.300 people, I've known of

00:40:25.160 plenty of people, plenty

00:40:26.080 of couples who've been

00:40:27.260 successful and happy,

00:40:28.340 although that they,

00:40:28.940 although they come from

00:40:30.200 very different perspectives

00:40:31.060 on, on really important

00:40:32.320 things like religion

00:40:33.200 and, uh, and, um,

00:40:35.740 principles and all of

00:40:36.720 that.

00:40:37.520 So it's not necessarily

00:40:38.680 a relationship killer,

00:40:39.660 but it's a significant

00:40:40.780 roadblock. 0.97

00:40:42.640 Um, and that brings us

00:40:44.720 to the third thing,

00:40:45.680 which is the length of

00:40:46.640 your relationship.

00:40:47.220 You've been together

00:40:47.840 for six years.

00:40:50.040 Like, if you've been

00:40:50.840 with someone for six

00:40:51.620 years and you still

00:40:53.000 don't know if you want

00:40:54.720 to marry them, uh, and

00:40:56.140 if you're saying, well,

00:40:56.940 it's possible the

00:40:57.700 relationship is doomed

00:40:58.600 still after six years,

00:41:00.820 then I would say that's

00:41:02.080 really not a good

00:41:02.620 sign, I'm afraid,

00:41:04.120 because you should

00:41:05.680 know everything you

00:41:07.720 need to know about a

00:41:08.520 person heading into

00:41:09.800 marriage, um, after

00:41:12.320 six years.

00:41:13.040 You should know it

00:41:13.740 after six months,

00:41:14.560 although for you, six

00:41:15.300 months, you would have

00:41:15.860 been 17 or 18, so,

00:41:17.300 but certainly after six

00:41:18.400 years, you know

00:41:20.080 everything you could

00:41:21.080 possibly need to know

00:41:22.580 about someone, uh,

00:41:25.080 before you marry them.

00:41:26.120 Assuming she isn't

00:41:27.040 hiding some deep, dark

00:41:28.200 secret, like she's a

00:41:28.940 serial killer or

00:41:29.600 something.

00:41:30.460 That aside, you know

00:41:33.340 everything there is to

00:41:34.240 know about her, um, or

00:41:36.220 everything that you could

00:41:37.240 know about her while

00:41:38.540 only dating.

00:41:39.340 Now, when you get

00:41:39.900 married, you learn a lot

00:41:40.740 more about a person, you

00:41:41.540 get to know them in a

00:41:42.240 much deeper way, but

00:41:44.440 there's only so far you

00:41:45.420 can go dating with that

00:41:46.980 because you haven't made

00:41:49.000 that commitment to each

00:41:50.860 other and you haven't

00:41:52.180 made that vow.

00:41:54.460 So there's only so far you

00:41:55.780 can get in knowing

00:41:56.840 someone, and once you've

00:41:58.620 reached that point, it's

00:41:59.820 like either you get

00:42:00.520 married or you don't.

00:42:02.240 There's no point in

00:42:03.060 waiting anymore, so you

00:42:06.340 just make the decision.

00:42:07.500 And certainly after six

00:42:08.360 years, you would know,

00:42:09.420 and, um, so if you still

00:42:10.700 have doubts and

00:42:11.220 reservations after six

00:42:12.140 years, I would say maybe

00:42:13.040 it's time for a

00:42:14.140 reassessment, though of

00:42:15.360 course that is your, um,

00:42:17.980 decision to make.

00:42:19.460 All right, we'll leave it

00:42:21.180 there.

00:42:21.440 Thanks for watching,

00:42:22.000 everybody.

00:42:22.300 Thanks for listening.

00:42:23.200 Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - January 28, 2019

Ep. 185 - Elizabeth Warren Wants Rich To Pay Off Our Student Loans

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