The Matt Walsh Show - January 28, 2019


Ep. 185 - Elizabeth Warren Wants Rich To Pay Off Our Student Loans


Episode Stats

Length

42 minutes

Words per Minute

175.8599

Word Count

7,521

Sentence Count

506

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary

Elizabeth Warren shames a rich guy, and says he needs to help pay for your student loan debt. Also, the Bishop of Covington sort of apologizes for throwing the Covingtons under the bus last week, but his apology is useless and worthless.


Transcript

00:00:00.220 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, Elizabeth Warren shames a rich guy and says that he needs to help pay for your student loan debt.
00:00:08.780 And there are so many problems with this that I don't even know where to begin, but I'll try to break it down.
00:00:13.340 Also, the Bishop of Covington sort of apologizes for throwing the Covington kids under the bus last week,
00:00:19.080 but his apology is useless and worthless, and in some ways it even makes him look worse than he already looked,
00:00:25.700 and we'll talk about that today on the Matt Walsh Show.
00:00:30.000 Well, Elizabeth Warren can't seem to go a week without embarrassing herself,
00:00:39.660 which is why I continue to hope and pray that she wins the nomination in 2020. I really do.
00:00:45.940 But this time she retweeted an article about Dan Snyder buying a yacht.
00:00:53.680 Dan Snyder is the owner of the Washington Redskins, and this is what she wrote when she retweeted the article.
00:00:58.820 She said,
00:01:00.060 This billionaire NFL owner just paid $100 million for a super yacht with its own IMAX theater.
00:01:06.720 I'm pretty sure he can pay my new ultra-millionaire tax to help the millions of yachtless Americans struggling with student loan debt.
00:01:14.540 Now, I am by no means quick to defend Dan Snyder, who is one of the worst NFL owners probably in the history of the league.
00:01:26.340 He has made many terrible front office decisions, of course, the worst of which was when he paid Albert Hainsworth $100 million back in 2009,
00:01:36.120 and then Albert Hainsworth went on to get, like, two sacks in two years.
00:01:39.140 But anyway, that's besides the point.
00:01:41.700 And look, if you want to get on Dan Snyder's case for how he spends money on the football field,
00:01:49.060 how he spends money on free agent contracts and everything, then by all means go ahead and do that.
00:01:54.820 But that is not what Warren was getting at here.
00:01:57.220 This was not a football criticism on her part.
00:02:01.380 She, a United States senator, is simply shaming a private citizen for being rich and buying a boat.
00:02:09.540 That's what that's all about.
00:02:11.280 That's all that was.
00:02:12.360 Now, here's the question.
00:02:15.460 Why is it any of Elizabeth Warren's business that Dan Snyder bought a boat with an IMAX theater?
00:02:22.680 Why is that any of her business whatsoever?
00:02:24.860 The left, they're the ones who are always saying, mind your own business.
00:02:28.000 It's none of your business.
00:02:29.000 Stay out of my life.
00:02:29.980 So why is this any of your business?
00:02:31.540 So the guy bought a boat.
00:02:32.900 Who cares?
00:02:33.820 What does that have to do with you?
00:02:35.100 It's not illegal.
00:02:36.800 What does it have to do with any of us?
00:02:38.180 Why should any of us have an opinion about how Dan Snyder spends his money?
00:02:45.740 This is some of the most blatant and unapologetic class warfare nonsense that you're likely to see.
00:02:53.840 This is a senator literally just posting a picture of a rich guy's yacht and saying, look at this rich guy with his rich guy stuff.
00:03:01.840 Don't you hate all these rich guys?
00:03:04.960 And that's to say nothing of the hypocrisy of it, of course.
00:03:07.880 Coming from someone who is herself well off.
00:03:11.140 She may not be preparing to buy a yacht anytime soon, but she has luxuries that many of us can't afford.
00:03:17.340 Remember that hilarious video of her drinking beer and trying to pretend like to be a normal person?
00:03:22.580 Here it is again.
00:03:23.680 Remember this.
00:03:24.500 Hold on a sec.
00:03:25.280 I'm going to get me a beer.
00:03:35.160 Hey.
00:03:36.340 Hello.
00:03:36.800 My husband, Bruce.
00:03:37.880 Is now in here.
00:03:40.060 You want a beer?
00:03:41.020 No, I'll pass on a beer for now.
00:03:42.180 You sure?
00:03:42.640 Come over and say hello to folks.
00:03:43.500 Yes.
00:03:44.280 So, this is my sweetie.
00:03:46.000 Hello.
00:03:47.980 And I'm crazy.
00:03:49.300 I love you.
00:03:49.980 I love you, too.
00:03:50.780 Thank you for being here.
00:03:51.800 Pleasure.
00:03:52.280 I'm glad you're here.
00:03:52.920 Enjoy your beer.
00:03:53.860 Who have we got here so far?
00:03:56.500 Skylar?
00:03:57.740 And 14 others?
00:03:59.380 Hello.
00:04:00.340 Denise?
00:04:01.680 Hi.
00:04:02.920 Fortnite?
00:04:04.020 Good to see you.
00:04:04.900 Who else have we got?
00:04:06.580 Kenny?
00:04:07.300 Is that right?
00:04:08.120 Kenny and the boys?
00:04:09.620 I'm glad to see you.
00:04:10.760 Is that a greenie goddess?
00:04:12.060 Wow.
00:04:12.820 That's a name I'd like to have.
00:04:14.340 Okay, so look at that.
00:04:20.180 Did you see that?
00:04:21.760 Look at her kitchen.
00:04:24.220 Did you see her kitchen?
00:04:25.800 Now, that's a nice kitchen.
00:04:27.060 That's a...
00:04:27.800 You got the nice cabinets,
00:04:29.240 the nice fancy countertops.
00:04:31.820 What are those?
00:04:32.720 Like granite tile countertops?
00:04:35.300 Now, I think that, personally,
00:04:37.020 actually, the green tile countertops
00:04:38.780 are hideous,
00:04:39.660 but still,
00:04:40.560 those look like
00:04:41.180 relatively expensive countertops,
00:04:43.200 and she's got the tile backsplash.
00:04:46.620 You know,
00:04:47.260 most of us can't afford
00:04:48.140 to have tile backsplash,
00:04:49.860 right?
00:04:52.300 I think we can agree
00:04:53.440 that most Americans
00:04:54.440 cannot afford
00:04:55.360 to have a kitchen like that.
00:04:58.880 Think about this.
00:05:00.320 Elizabeth Warren
00:05:01.180 has that nice fancy kitchen.
00:05:03.400 Meanwhile,
00:05:04.820 a lot of people
00:05:05.640 can't even buy a car.
00:05:08.220 She's got the nice kitchen,
00:05:09.300 and there are a lot of people,
00:05:10.360 you know,
00:05:10.840 that are walking to work
00:05:11.900 because they can't afford
00:05:12.820 to have a car.
00:05:14.140 So,
00:05:14.560 why should she have
00:05:16.040 such a nice kitchen
00:05:17.200 with those nice countertops
00:05:18.840 and that backsplash
00:05:19.860 when there are people
00:05:20.740 who don't have cars?
00:05:22.380 Now,
00:05:22.960 you might say
00:05:23.620 that there's no connection
00:05:25.500 between the fact
00:05:27.120 that some people
00:05:27.780 don't have cars
00:05:28.720 and Elizabeth Warren's
00:05:31.260 nicely renovated kitchen.
00:05:33.400 You might say
00:05:34.060 there's absolutely
00:05:34.720 no connection whatsoever,
00:05:35.880 so this is a really stupid thing
00:05:37.360 for me to bring up.
00:05:39.180 And you're right.
00:05:40.920 That's exactly the point.
00:05:42.000 It is very stupid.
00:05:43.820 There's no connection
00:05:44.820 between Elizabeth Warren's
00:05:46.240 nice kitchen
00:05:46.780 and the fact
00:05:47.860 that you can't buy a car
00:05:48.920 and are broke,
00:05:49.900 just like there's no connection
00:05:51.000 between Dan Snyder's boat
00:05:53.400 and the fact
00:05:54.960 that you have college debt.
00:05:56.240 There is no relationship
00:05:57.980 between those two things
00:05:58.700 whatsoever.
00:05:59.780 It's not like
00:06:00.760 Dan Snyder
00:06:01.520 has some sort of
00:06:02.400 magical funnel
00:06:03.900 where when you try
00:06:05.680 to pay your college debt,
00:06:06.820 it actually goes
00:06:07.500 in the funnel
00:06:08.320 and then right into his pocket
00:06:09.500 so that he can buy a boat.
00:06:11.360 You know,
00:06:11.520 this isn't
00:06:12.080 like the movie
00:06:14.560 There Will Be Blood
00:06:15.480 with Daniel Day-Lewis
00:06:17.440 explaining how he's got
00:06:18.360 a very long straw
00:06:19.320 and he's going to drink
00:06:19.980 your milkshake.
00:06:20.720 Okay?
00:06:21.220 Dan Snyder is not
00:06:22.280 drinking your milkshake.
00:06:23.280 He's just drinking
00:06:24.640 his own milkshake.
00:06:25.600 He happens to have
00:06:26.500 a much bigger
00:06:27.200 and nicer milkshake
00:06:28.140 than the rest of us.
00:06:29.500 But still,
00:06:30.900 that doesn't
00:06:31.560 take away from the...
00:06:33.700 So the fact that
00:06:34.340 I've got this little
00:06:34.900 tiny lame milkshake
00:06:36.360 and he's got this
00:06:36.880 giant, nice,
00:06:38.160 really delicious milkshake,
00:06:40.000 that doesn't...
00:06:40.800 You could take
00:06:41.240 his milkshake away.
00:06:42.340 It wouldn't make
00:06:42.700 my milkshake taste
00:06:43.500 any better.
00:06:44.500 That's the point.
00:06:46.320 His richness
00:06:47.020 does not harm you
00:06:48.740 in any way
00:06:49.480 nor does it contribute
00:06:50.760 to your brokenness.
00:06:53.140 In fact,
00:06:54.440 if Dan Snyder
00:06:55.380 went bankrupt tomorrow,
00:06:56.820 not only would that
00:06:58.320 not help you,
00:07:00.300 but it would...
00:07:01.340 There's a good chance
00:07:02.200 that it may hurt you.
00:07:03.580 Like,
00:07:04.140 if you build yachts
00:07:05.840 for a living,
00:07:06.520 then that would hurt you.
00:07:08.280 If you work
00:07:10.800 in the Northern Virginia,
00:07:13.900 D.C. area,
00:07:15.040 it would hurt you.
00:07:16.720 If you work retail
00:07:17.800 or you work
00:07:18.500 in customer service,
00:07:19.940 then that's a very rich person
00:07:22.040 who no longer has money
00:07:22.920 to buy things,
00:07:23.660 so that could hurt you.
00:07:24.640 If you work for him,
00:07:26.420 he employs hundreds of people.
00:07:28.520 If you work for him,
00:07:29.060 that could hurt you too.
00:07:29.880 So,
00:07:30.860 take away his money
00:07:32.380 and it helps no one,
00:07:34.060 but it could hurt people.
00:07:35.960 That's just a simple reality.
00:07:39.000 The best that you could hope,
00:07:40.200 if you take away
00:07:40.680 Dan Snyder's money
00:07:41.560 and make him
00:07:42.460 so he's not rich anymore,
00:07:44.920 the best you could hope
00:07:46.200 is that you live
00:07:46.800 in some other part
00:07:47.380 of the country,
00:07:48.220 you don't work for him
00:07:49.200 or work in an industry
00:07:50.000 that he patronizes,
00:07:51.440 and then so maybe
00:07:52.620 it would help you
00:07:53.420 in the way
00:07:54.300 that it would satisfy your envy,
00:07:56.580 make you just feel better
00:07:57.760 that someone else
00:07:58.440 is suffering
00:07:58.980 similar misfortunes to you.
00:08:01.580 But there's no real
00:08:02.620 practical help there.
00:08:05.200 So,
00:08:05.780 that's one part of this.
00:08:07.600 The other part
00:08:08.340 is the whole idea
00:08:09.420 that the government
00:08:10.440 needs to help Americans
00:08:11.800 who are struggling
00:08:12.700 with student loan debt.
00:08:17.360 Honestly,
00:08:18.020 I am getting really tired
00:08:19.600 of hearing this particular
00:08:21.200 sad violin tune.
00:08:22.880 I am,
00:08:23.880 I have been invited
00:08:24.760 to this pity party
00:08:25.640 many times
00:08:26.440 and I just,
00:08:27.220 I have no interest in it.
00:08:28.900 Call me cruel,
00:08:30.120 say that I lack charity,
00:08:31.620 I lack sympathy.
00:08:32.620 That's probably the case.
00:08:34.840 I don't care.
00:08:36.700 The fact is,
00:08:37.820 I am not crying tears
00:08:39.240 of sympathy
00:08:39.780 because you have
00:08:40.900 student loan debt.
00:08:41.780 I'm just not.
00:08:43.100 There are a lot of things
00:08:44.580 in the world
00:08:44.980 that I care about.
00:08:45.860 There are a lot of
00:08:46.420 problems that,
00:08:48.040 that trouble me.
00:08:51.280 There are many
00:08:52.180 forms of misfortune
00:08:54.040 that I feel
00:08:55.020 called to,
00:08:57.020 you know,
00:08:57.760 help with
00:08:59.080 and try to alleviate.
00:09:00.920 Your student loan debt
00:09:02.260 is just not
00:09:02.960 one of those things.
00:09:03.700 I just really,
00:09:05.040 I mean,
00:09:05.200 you could sit there
00:09:05.700 and say,
00:09:05.860 oh,
00:09:05.900 I have $30,000
00:09:06.840 of student loan debt.
00:09:07.780 Here's the thing.
00:09:08.320 I really don't care.
00:09:09.720 I just don't.
00:09:10.860 Nobody does.
00:09:12.220 And no one should.
00:09:14.680 Your student loan debt,
00:09:16.040 it's like your credit card debt.
00:09:17.220 So if you went complaining,
00:09:18.700 oh,
00:09:18.960 I got $10,000
00:09:19.820 in credit card debt.
00:09:20.920 Okay,
00:09:21.360 I don't care.
00:09:23.000 Well,
00:09:23.320 how could you not care?
00:09:24.580 It really hurts me
00:09:25.600 to have all this credit.
00:09:27.120 Well,
00:09:27.320 then you shouldn't have
00:09:27.860 bought all that stuff
00:09:28.540 on a credit card.
00:09:29.500 What,
00:09:29.700 what do you want me to say?
00:09:31.960 I mean,
00:09:32.420 you got to pay it off.
00:09:33.240 It's your debts,
00:09:33.780 not mine.
00:09:34.860 We all have debts.
00:09:36.580 Okay,
00:09:37.080 we all have financial challenges
00:09:39.300 and things we have to pay for.
00:09:41.940 I have a mortgage,
00:09:43.300 so I got to pay my mortgage.
00:09:45.180 And sometimes it really sucks
00:09:46.660 to pay my mortgage.
00:09:47.480 I wish I didn't have to pay,
00:09:48.340 but I do.
00:09:49.080 I'm not going to go
00:09:49.580 complain to you like,
00:09:50.780 oh,
00:09:50.980 my mortgage is so high.
00:09:52.420 I don't want to have to pay it.
00:09:53.820 I don't want to pay my mortgage.
00:09:55.280 No,
00:09:55.440 I'm not going to do that
00:09:56.160 because I'm an adult.
00:09:59.620 In fact,
00:10:00.460 I have student loan.
00:10:02.340 I didn't even go to college
00:10:03.880 and I have student loan debt
00:10:05.040 to pay off.
00:10:05.840 I,
00:10:06.360 as the,
00:10:06.780 as the,
00:10:07.460 um,
00:10:08.940 wage earner in my household,
00:10:10.860 I am paying off my wife's,
00:10:13.280 wife's student debt.
00:10:14.880 We've been paying her student debt
00:10:16.300 for,
00:10:16.740 um,
00:10:17.160 for,
00:10:17.760 for seven years.
00:10:19.520 It's not even my debt.
00:10:21.020 And I don't complain.
00:10:22.240 I don't whine about it.
00:10:23.360 I don't complain about it.
00:10:24.560 I'm not going to go complaining to you
00:10:26.100 about the fact that I'm paying off this debt.
00:10:29.160 Just is what it is.
00:10:32.540 Um,
00:10:33.340 you signed on that dotted line.
00:10:35.100 And you made a choice.
00:10:36.200 That's your debt to pay.
00:10:37.400 That's all.
00:10:38.400 Is it an absurd amount of debt?
00:10:40.200 Yes.
00:10:40.840 Is college way too expensive?
00:10:42.780 Yes.
00:10:43.380 So is a Mercedes Benz.
00:10:44.900 But if you go and buy one,
00:10:46.380 you got it.
00:10:46.860 Then you bought it.
00:10:47.660 That's yours.
00:10:48.160 You got to pay for it.
00:10:49.300 That's your debt that you took on.
00:10:51.620 Don't buy something.
00:10:53.580 If you can't pay for it
00:10:54.920 and don't buy something
00:10:56.860 and immediately start crying,
00:10:58.520 but it's because you have to pay for it.
00:10:59.980 It's like,
00:11:00.320 this is what happens.
00:11:00.920 Colleges say to,
00:11:01.900 uh,
00:11:02.560 to college students,
00:11:03.460 um,
00:11:04.180 okay,
00:11:04.400 here's how much it costs.
00:11:05.680 Sign on the dotted line.
00:11:07.180 And then the student goes,
00:11:08.380 all right,
00:11:08.820 here we go.
00:11:09.780 I'm signing.
00:11:10.980 And then as soon as they make that last gesture of the pen
00:11:14.100 and they sign,
00:11:14.900 they immediately go,
00:11:16.100 wait,
00:11:16.520 why is this so expensive?
00:11:17.860 It's not fair.
00:11:20.020 It,
00:11:20.720 it's,
00:11:21.440 it's that expensive
00:11:22.240 because that's what you signed up for.
00:11:25.660 Um,
00:11:26.340 and that's all.
00:11:29.320 Yes.
00:11:29.840 Again,
00:11:30.100 it is.
00:11:30.460 college is absurdly expensive.
00:11:32.780 It's too expensive.
00:11:35.640 Uh,
00:11:36.280 but you volunteered for that.
00:11:39.120 You didn't have to,
00:11:40.360 and you did.
00:11:43.180 So that's all.
00:11:44.320 I just,
00:11:44.560 I,
00:11:44.700 I have,
00:11:45.460 and a lot of this is just exhaustion.
00:11:47.680 You know,
00:11:48.120 if,
00:11:48.860 um,
00:11:49.100 if there were people struggling with debt and they weren't whining about it
00:11:53.800 all the time and trying to make themselves out to be victims and
00:11:56.980 constantly complaining,
00:11:57.700 and then even asking other people to pay for it for them,
00:12:00.440 um,
00:12:01.420 and supporting politicians who have these student loan forgiveness plans
00:12:05.080 and all that.
00:12:05.560 If it weren't for all of that,
00:12:06.820 then yeah,
00:12:07.840 maybe I would feel sorry for people with their,
00:12:09.600 with their debt.
00:12:10.580 Just like actually,
00:12:11.600 if someone has credit card debt and,
00:12:13.500 uh,
00:12:13.680 that they've racked up and they,
00:12:15.020 you know,
00:12:15.180 they got $15,000 credit card debt and they're not complaining about it or
00:12:18.740 whining or making themselves out to be a victim,
00:12:20.560 but it's just a,
00:12:21.500 it's just now a burden that they carry,
00:12:23.380 uh,
00:12:24.300 because they were irresponsible with their credit cards,
00:12:26.460 but now they're trying to pay it off.
00:12:27.680 Well,
00:12:27.960 that's someone that I would feel,
00:12:29.040 I mean,
00:12:29.820 I still think that they should pay it off,
00:12:31.300 but that is someone I would have sympathy for because they're carrying
00:12:35.080 that burden with dignity and maturely and not whining.
00:12:39.160 And so anyone who does that,
00:12:40.720 anyone who carries a burden with dignity and with maturity and who does not
00:12:45.220 expect other people to carry it for them,
00:12:47.320 anyone in that category,
00:12:48.160 I have sympathy for all of those kinds of people,
00:12:50.120 all of them,
00:12:50.440 whatever the,
00:12:50.980 whatever the burden is,
00:12:51.980 even if it's a self-imposed burden.
00:12:54.840 Um,
00:12:56.460 I mean,
00:12:57.080 you could,
00:12:57.560 you know,
00:12:58.380 you could,
00:12:58.780 you could be in prison for,
00:13:00.020 for committing a crime and now you're,
00:13:02.480 you're,
00:13:02.720 you're dealing with your prison sentence.
00:13:05.120 And if you are acknowledging that you're not complaining,
00:13:08.680 you're not whining,
00:13:09.260 you're acknowledging that this is what you brought on yourself.
00:13:12.140 And so you're serving out your term with dignity,
00:13:14.580 then I would have great sympathy for you as well in that situation.
00:13:17.420 I think that's,
00:13:18.360 that's,
00:13:18.700 that is deserving of sympathy.
00:13:20.900 What I'm talking about are the people who make a choice,
00:13:24.740 even if it was an ill-informed choice,
00:13:26.840 a bad choice,
00:13:28.060 a financially unwise choice,
00:13:29.300 whatever,
00:13:29.540 they make that choice.
00:13:30.520 And now they're reaping the consequences and they're demanding sympathy and
00:13:37.140 constantly complaining about it.
00:13:38.100 That's the issue.
00:13:40.120 And especially when they expect other people to pay this idea of student loan
00:13:44.680 forgiveness,
00:13:45.480 which by the way,
00:13:47.180 the student loan forgiveness is a euphemism.
00:13:49.660 It's a misnomer.
00:13:51.020 It's not just forgiveness.
00:13:52.960 No one can just forgive you that you bought it.
00:13:55.860 Someone's got to pay for it.
00:13:57.440 That is a thing that you bought.
00:13:59.200 It's a product.
00:14:00.020 I mean,
00:14:00.260 education is now a product that you bought.
00:14:04.120 So if that loan is forgiven,
00:14:06.320 that means someone else is paying for it.
00:14:08.380 That's all it means.
00:14:09.300 And it means that the taxpayers are paying for it.
00:14:11.380 So the idea that taxpayers should have to foot the bill for this thing that you
00:14:17.900 bought is so repulsively immoral and stupid that I can't even fathom it.
00:14:24.600 I cannot even fathom the selfishness and arrogance and just cowardice of people
00:14:32.960 who would demand that someone else pay their student loan debt.
00:14:40.600 It's just,
00:14:41.400 it's unbelievable to me.
00:14:43.520 Yet this is very common among people in my generation.
00:14:47.000 A great amount,
00:14:47.480 I don't have the survey data in front of me,
00:14:49.040 but a great,
00:14:49.840 there's a high percentage of people around my age
00:14:52.340 who think that they are entitled to that.
00:14:56.240 And as I said,
00:14:56.840 I find it repulsively immoral and stupid,
00:14:59.700 that idea.
00:15:00.160 Especially because there doesn't even need to be,
00:15:05.460 there's no need for an especially here,
00:15:08.320 but I will add an especially,
00:15:11.380 especially because let's just be real about this.
00:15:15.380 Okay.
00:15:15.600 Let's,
00:15:16.120 let's,
00:15:16.600 let's be honest.
00:15:19.220 One of the primary reasons why people go,
00:15:23.780 especially to these expensive four-year institutions,
00:15:26.440 because you could go to a community college for two years.
00:15:29.880 And then if you want more than a two-year degree,
00:15:32.740 you could go and transfer your credits in most cases.
00:15:36.820 And,
00:15:37.080 you know,
00:15:37.260 you could,
00:15:37.540 you could cut your college tuition bill,
00:15:40.160 like in half doing that.
00:15:42.180 But you could,
00:15:44.180 there are also plenty of people who are at really expensive colleges,
00:15:46.820 and they could have gone to less expensive colleges.
00:15:49.700 Now,
00:15:50.280 most colleges are more expensive than they need to be,
00:15:53.180 but not all of them are astronomically expensive.
00:15:56.260 There are cheaper options that you could explore.
00:16:02.180 But a lot of people,
00:16:03.540 they want to go to the expensive four-year institution,
00:16:06.240 and they want to be there all four years.
00:16:08.700 They want to stay on campus.
00:16:09.640 They want to do all that.
00:16:11.980 Yeah,
00:16:12.240 some of it's because they've been told that this is how you get a good job
00:16:15.140 when you,
00:16:15.480 when you get out of college,
00:16:16.200 but also because they want the experience and they want the fun.
00:16:20.680 And that's how college is sold to high school students.
00:16:24.480 That's how the guidance counselors and the college recruiters and everything.
00:16:27.360 That's how they sell it.
00:16:28.600 It's not just about,
00:16:29.660 you'll get an education,
00:16:30.860 you'll get a job.
00:16:31.620 There's that,
00:16:32.140 but there's also,
00:16:32.720 it's a great experience.
00:16:33.840 It's,
00:16:34.300 you know,
00:16:34.440 it's what all your friends are doing and it's,
00:16:36.120 it's,
00:16:36.280 it'll be a fun college experience.
00:16:38.380 You're never going to get that experience again,
00:16:40.620 four years in college.
00:16:41.720 And yeah,
00:16:42.540 I can tell based on what I've,
00:16:44.880 what I saw,
00:16:45.640 even though I didn't go to college and based on what any of my friends will tell
00:16:48.720 me,
00:16:49.060 it was,
00:16:49.380 it was a,
00:16:49.760 it was a unique experience.
00:16:51.360 You're never going to have an experience.
00:16:52.460 It is essentially like a four year vacation.
00:16:56.560 It is a vacation from adulthood and from everything.
00:16:59.060 And you just get to party all the time if you want to and live in a way that you will
00:17:03.340 never be able to live again.
00:17:05.000 So great,
00:17:05.440 great.
00:17:05.760 Good for you.
00:17:06.940 But the fact that you took on this debt in part because you wanted that and now,
00:17:11.380 and now you're complaining about it.
00:17:14.600 Just be honest.
00:17:15.480 A big part of the reason you wanted to go to college because you wanted to have fun.
00:17:18.540 I mean,
00:17:18.700 just be honest about it,
00:17:19.900 but you can't be honest about it because then you'd have to admit that you want us to
00:17:25.440 pay for this thing that you did because it was fun.
00:17:28.120 So when it comes to people who already have that student loan debt and have already paid
00:17:40.080 for it or they haven't paid for it yet,
00:17:42.220 but they've already signed on the dotted line,
00:17:44.020 they've gone through college and now they have the debt to pay for.
00:17:46.940 So the only thing we can really say to them is,
00:17:50.760 and maybe there are nicer ways to put it,
00:17:52.360 but basically the message is suck it up buttercup and pay for it because that's your,
00:17:56.740 I have debt.
00:17:57.560 You know,
00:17:58.000 a mortgage is a lot of debt.
00:17:59.500 I have that.
00:18:00.180 You know,
00:18:00.300 I,
00:18:00.540 so if you have no mortgage,
00:18:02.000 but you got student loan debt,
00:18:03.120 I have more debt than you do.
00:18:04.500 Plus I've got my wife's debt.
00:18:05.620 So,
00:18:06.120 and I'm not whining.
00:18:07.000 So you shouldn't whine either.
00:18:08.140 I don't expect your sympathy.
00:18:09.560 I'm not going to give any to you.
00:18:10.820 You just be an adult and deal with it.
00:18:12.340 All right.
00:18:13.240 Now for everyone else though,
00:18:15.960 that's for the people who've,
00:18:18.220 who are already in it and have already made that choice.
00:18:20.420 Now they got to deal with it.
00:18:21.160 But when it comes to kids who are getting out of high school and who have not yet signed on the dotted line,
00:18:27.460 well,
00:18:28.460 then I do think our message to them should be very different.
00:18:31.200 Our message should not be,
00:18:32.320 yeah,
00:18:32.520 sign on the dotted line and then suck it up and deal with it.
00:18:35.520 If we can prevent them from making that choice or,
00:18:38.460 or get them to think twice about it or consider other options,
00:18:41.260 well,
00:18:41.380 that would be a very good thing.
00:18:44.440 But see,
00:18:44.920 that's the other problem is that we all complain about how expensive college is,
00:18:48.740 but then very few people want to consider the other options.
00:18:55.760 So we all say,
00:18:56.680 yeah,
00:18:56.800 college is really expensive.
00:18:57.720 It shouldn't be so expensive,
00:18:58.560 but everyone should go to it anyway.
00:19:01.120 Well,
00:19:01.360 if that's the approach,
00:19:02.220 if that's the attitude,
00:19:02.960 then it's never going to get better.
00:19:04.860 College is never going to get less expensive if we all just send our kids there anyway,
00:19:10.360 regardless.
00:19:11.380 The conclusion should be college is really expensive.
00:19:18.840 It's way too expensive.
00:19:19.840 So you should only do that if you know,
00:19:26.820 if you have a plan in mind and you know that,
00:19:30.160 that going to an expensive four-year institution is a necessary part of that plan.
00:19:36.200 That should be our message to kids.
00:19:40.420 And it boggles my mind that anyone would disagree with this,
00:19:42.820 but a lot of people do.
00:19:44.120 Even now,
00:19:44.720 even now,
00:19:45.240 we all know how,
00:19:45.940 how crushing the student loan debt,
00:19:47.280 like a trillion dollars in outstanding student loan debt.
00:19:49.980 Even in spite of that,
00:19:50.920 there are still so many people who say,
00:19:52.240 yeah,
00:19:52.440 you know what,
00:19:52.720 just go and figure it out.
00:19:54.020 And just go to college and you'll figure it out.
00:19:55.540 It's such an irresponsible thing to do.
00:19:59.140 It's an even more irresponsible thing to encourage our kids to do.
00:20:02.500 The message to our kids should be,
00:20:04.060 before you sign the sheet of paper for the loan.
00:20:09.580 You should have some idea about what your plan is and what you're going to do with this.
00:20:16.740 And you should have some idea as to whether or not this really expensive four-year academic vacation
00:20:23.960 is actually necessary for you.
00:20:26.520 Maybe it is.
00:20:27.320 Maybe you want to be a doctor.
00:20:28.500 You want to be an engineer.
00:20:29.280 You want to be an architect.
00:20:31.680 You know,
00:20:32.240 you want to be a lawyer,
00:20:33.340 whatever.
00:20:33.440 There are many things or vocations,
00:20:38.320 occupations in life that would necessitate this.
00:20:43.180 In which case,
00:20:44.000 absolutely.
00:20:46.420 But if you want to do something that's a little bit more hands-on,
00:20:48.920 if you want to,
00:20:49.740 you know,
00:20:50.120 work in a trade,
00:20:53.860 you know,
00:20:54.040 if you want to,
00:20:54.900 I mean,
00:20:55.160 there are many other occupations that you might be considering,
00:20:59.700 in which case that four-year institution might be unnecessary.
00:21:03.940 It might be a hindrance in the long run.
00:21:06.560 Or you might say,
00:21:07.540 I have absolutely no idea.
00:21:09.800 I'm 18 years old.
00:21:10.840 I just got out of high school.
00:21:12.000 I have no clue what I want to do with my life at all.
00:21:14.960 In which case,
00:21:16.800 obviously,
00:21:17.400 you shouldn't just go right to a college and take on all that debt without having any idea as to whether it will actually be necessary for you.
00:21:30.800 But in that case,
00:21:32.420 clearly the best path is to go get a job for a while,
00:21:36.400 take your time,
00:21:37.700 figure out what you want to do,
00:21:39.420 what you're good at,
00:21:40.140 what your skills are,
00:21:40.940 what your passions are.
00:21:42.220 And then at that point,
00:21:44.640 if you realize that a four-year institution is necessary,
00:21:46.860 then you can go.
00:21:47.820 And there's no disadvantage at all.
00:21:51.820 Yeah,
00:21:52.040 you're two years,
00:21:52.880 you're a few years behind,
00:21:54.180 but what does that even mean?
00:21:55.040 Behind who?
00:21:56.320 Behind what?
00:21:59.640 And as you've fallen behind,
00:22:01.760 what you've actually done is,
00:22:02.980 you've gotten some real-world experience,
00:22:04.880 you've built a little bit of a resume,
00:22:06.160 and you've made some money,
00:22:07.600 and you've saved some money.
00:22:09.020 And so it's a win-win in that case.
00:22:12.460 All right.
00:22:14.040 Let's go on to an update of a story.
00:22:17.080 You remember last week with the Covington Saga,
00:22:19.460 a big part of that story,
00:22:20.740 and especially depressing and shameful part of that story,
00:22:24.540 was how some in Catholic leadership,
00:22:27.800 bishops and so forth,
00:22:28.940 came out right away to condemn the boys,
00:22:31.520 not even waiting for the facts to come in.
00:22:33.580 And one of the cowards who did that was Bishop Rogers,
00:22:36.140 Joseph Foyes,
00:22:37.640 who's the Bishop of Covington,
00:22:39.560 and he turned his back on the kids in his own diocese.
00:22:43.180 I mean,
00:22:43.360 he just threw them right under the bus,
00:22:45.280 had no leadership,
00:22:46.540 no courage at all.
00:22:48.300 And then the facts came out,
00:22:49.900 and he looked like not only a coward,
00:22:53.080 but a fool.
00:22:55.120 So over the weekend,
00:22:56.940 or late last week,
00:22:58.000 he issued an apology,
00:23:00.020 sort of.
00:23:01.380 I'm going to read this sort of apology to you.
00:23:06.140 from the Bishop of Covington.
00:23:09.140 It says,
00:23:09.920 My dear Covington Catholic parents,
00:23:12.280 since Saturday,
00:23:12.920 January 2019,
00:23:14.640 the events at the Lincoln Memorial
00:23:15.780 following the annual March for Life
00:23:17.180 have gained international attention.
00:23:21.300 Within hours,
00:23:22.200 we were pressured from all sides
00:23:23.620 to make a statement regarding a video clip
00:23:25.460 which reportedly showed students
00:23:26.700 from Covington Catholic High School
00:23:27.640 being disrespectful to Native American elder
00:23:29.320 Nathan Phillips.
00:23:31.060 Based on what the video clip showed,
00:23:32.520 we condemned the actions of students
00:23:34.080 who engaged in the alleged disrespect
00:23:35.560 and promised to investigate the matter.
00:23:39.600 Blah, blah, blah,
00:23:40.560 so on and so forth.
00:23:43.280 We are sorry that this situation
00:23:45.320 has caused disruption
00:23:46.700 in the lives of so many.
00:23:49.120 We apologize to anyone
00:23:50.700 who has been offended in any way
00:23:52.420 by either of our statements,
00:23:53.960 which were made with goodwill
00:23:55.400 based on the information we had.
00:23:57.100 We should not have allowed ourselves
00:23:58.640 to be bullied and pressured
00:24:00.100 into making a statement prematurely,
00:24:01.900 and we take full responsibility for it.
00:24:03.760 I especially apologize
00:24:04.660 to Nicholas Sandman and his family
00:24:06.200 as well as to all Covecath families
00:24:08.520 who have felt abandoned
00:24:09.780 during this ordeal.
00:24:10.620 Nicholas, unfortunately,
00:24:11.460 has become the face of these allegations
00:24:12.840 based on video clips.
00:24:14.200 That is not fair.
00:24:15.160 It is not just.
00:24:16.060 We now await the results
00:24:17.080 of the investigation.
00:24:17.920 It is my hope and expectation
00:24:18.960 that the results will exonerate our students
00:24:21.020 so that they can move forward
00:24:22.380 with their lives.
00:24:23.080 In any event,
00:24:23.640 we will make the final report public
00:24:25.160 once it has been revealed.
00:24:26.640 In the meantime,
00:24:27.180 we call on all those
00:24:27.980 who continue to spew venom and hate
00:24:29.740 to desist
00:24:30.520 and instead pray
00:24:31.440 for a peaceful resolution
00:24:32.500 to this tragic spectacle.
00:24:36.480 Okay, so a couple of problems here.
00:24:40.500 First of all,
00:24:41.100 you're still invested.
00:24:42.100 What is there to investigate?
00:24:44.020 What does this investigation entail?
00:24:45.880 Do you have like CSI out there
00:24:47.740 doing fingerprint analysis?
00:24:49.840 What kind of investigation
00:24:51.240 do you need to do?
00:24:51.900 It's on video.
00:24:53.360 Look at the video.
00:24:54.400 You can see what happened.
00:24:56.100 And that's it.
00:24:57.000 You can clearly see
00:24:58.480 that your students
00:25:00.300 were being racially harassed,
00:25:02.780 verbally assaulted
00:25:03.520 by this other group
00:25:04.400 and then Nathan Phillips came up
00:25:05.460 and then you can also see
00:25:06.520 that he lied about it.
00:25:07.340 So this is all clear to everyone.
00:25:08.840 There's nothing to investigate.
00:25:11.120 So saying,
00:25:11.500 well, we're still investigating.
00:25:12.880 This was just his way
00:25:14.280 of getting out of
00:25:15.160 completely acknowledging
00:25:16.760 that actually
00:25:18.520 he was totally wrong.
00:25:19.700 The students were innocent
00:25:20.460 and, you know,
00:25:21.920 actually Native American elder
00:25:23.860 Nathan Phillips
00:25:24.520 is a bully and a liar.
00:25:26.220 See, the bishop
00:25:26.720 doesn't want to acknowledge
00:25:27.700 that he's trying to put that off.
00:25:30.860 And so he says,
00:25:31.780 well, we're still investigating.
00:25:33.900 And his apology
00:25:34.960 is really a non-apology.
00:25:36.080 It's a classic non-apology.
00:25:38.080 We apologize to anyone
00:25:39.240 who was offended.
00:25:41.120 We don't really necessarily
00:25:42.320 apologize directly
00:25:43.660 for everything that we did.
00:25:45.080 And we're not even acknowledging,
00:25:46.740 actually,
00:25:47.140 that we were necessarily wrong.
00:25:48.320 We might still have been right,
00:25:50.240 but we were a little bit premature.
00:25:51.580 So if anyone was offended,
00:25:52.620 then we apologize.
00:25:55.180 So it's kind of a non-apology.
00:25:56.440 But my biggest problem is
00:25:57.560 you're admitting
00:26:00.860 that you allowed yourself
00:26:02.000 to be bullied
00:26:02.880 by what?
00:26:04.900 Some mean Twitter comment?
00:26:06.400 You're the bishop
00:26:07.580 of a diocese.
00:26:10.460 And you're admitting
00:26:11.340 that you were bullied
00:26:12.400 by mean Internet comments.
00:26:14.720 And not only were you bullied
00:26:16.080 into making a statement,
00:26:17.200 but it only took like
00:26:18.500 five minutes of bullying.
00:26:20.960 I mean,
00:26:21.460 this statement from Covington,
00:26:23.120 the Covington Diocese,
00:26:23.860 came out within hours.
00:26:25.000 So that's how quickly
00:26:26.840 they caved.
00:26:27.720 And now he's saying,
00:26:28.380 yeah, you know what?
00:26:28.840 We really were bullied there.
00:26:31.100 So what you're really admitting
00:26:32.360 is that you are
00:26:33.100 a completely spineless jellyfish
00:26:36.280 without the capacity
00:26:38.380 to stand up against
00:26:39.500 even the slightest amount
00:26:40.880 of pressure.
00:26:42.760 And the problem is
00:26:43.740 you're not alleviating
00:26:44.760 that impression now
00:26:45.640 or you're not really showing
00:26:46.960 that you've changed your ways
00:26:51.140 because when the pressure was,
00:26:54.820 when the public opinion
00:26:55.880 was against the students,
00:26:57.200 you came out
00:26:57.820 and condemned them.
00:26:58.700 And now that it's shifted
00:26:59.660 back in the other direction,
00:27:00.600 you've come out and said,
00:27:01.720 oh, actually, you know.
00:27:03.980 So you're still just shifting
00:27:05.480 with the winds is all.
00:27:06.520 And you've still got
00:27:07.660 your finger in the air
00:27:08.480 trying to judge
00:27:09.260 where the wind is going.
00:27:10.320 And you're still equivocating
00:27:11.680 a little bit.
00:27:13.220 But just that statement
00:27:14.540 of we allowed ourselves
00:27:15.540 to be bullied.
00:27:16.240 We were bullied.
00:27:17.020 You know, I don't give you
00:27:19.240 any credit at all
00:27:20.300 for acknowledging that.
00:27:21.360 Yeah, we know that it's true.
00:27:22.660 But I give you no credit
00:27:24.060 for this apology.
00:27:25.300 And the very fact
00:27:26.600 that you could be bullied
00:27:28.160 by internet trolls,
00:27:32.180 bullied into throwing
00:27:33.840 your own kids under the bus,
00:27:35.480 I mean, it's just so shameful
00:27:37.580 and embarrassing.
00:27:41.100 And unfortunately,
00:27:42.280 there's nothing now
00:27:43.120 that this bishop can do.
00:27:44.100 He's just a coward.
00:27:45.480 And he's a fool.
00:27:47.620 And that's all.
00:27:48.700 Nothing's going to change that.
00:27:50.340 That's not going to change.
00:27:51.500 That's just who he is.
00:27:54.340 And I know you could say,
00:27:55.320 well, but he apologized.
00:27:56.440 What else?
00:27:56.860 You know, once you apologize.
00:27:58.000 Yeah, apology is fine.
00:27:59.040 But just because you apologize,
00:28:00.440 that doesn't necessarily
00:28:01.320 change anything.
00:28:03.400 That doesn't change
00:28:04.420 who you are,
00:28:05.300 what you did.
00:28:06.860 And if you're apologizing
00:28:08.320 for being a gutless coward,
00:28:10.660 well, you're still
00:28:11.560 probably a gutless coward.
00:28:12.700 Nothing has happened
00:28:15.580 in the last week
00:28:16.180 to make you not
00:28:16.940 a gutless coward.
00:28:20.820 All right.
00:28:21.820 Let's get some of your emails.
00:28:23.680 If you want to message
00:28:24.780 the show
00:28:25.780 with any comments,
00:28:28.700 questions,
00:28:29.720 concerns,
00:28:31.400 mattwalsshow
00:28:32.080 at gmail.com,
00:28:33.240 mattwalsshow
00:28:33.840 at gmail.com.
00:28:34.900 So we'll go to the inbox now.
00:28:36.740 I thought there were
00:28:37.080 some good emails
00:28:38.160 I wanted to talk about today.
00:28:40.020 So this is from Bethany.
00:28:41.200 She says,
00:28:41.920 you wondered why
00:28:42.700 A Quiet Place
00:28:43.540 was shut out
00:28:44.120 for Best Picture
00:28:44.820 at the Oscars
00:28:46.080 and speculated that perhaps
00:28:47.320 it's because of
00:28:48.220 the heroic father trope.
00:28:49.920 But no,
00:28:50.580 the heroic father
00:28:51.360 is allowed
00:28:51.880 and even somewhat
00:28:52.580 encouraged lately
00:28:53.300 in Hollywood.
00:28:54.260 It is worth considering,
00:28:55.320 however,
00:28:55.560 that the movie
00:28:56.120 was a picture
00:28:56.860 of an intact,
00:28:58.160 natural family,
00:28:59.680 mother,
00:29:00.020 father,
00:29:00.380 children,
00:29:00.980 and also that
00:29:01.900 the climax
00:29:02.460 of the picture
00:29:03.280 involved not only
00:29:04.080 a father sacrificing
00:29:05.020 his life for his children,
00:29:06.160 but,
00:29:06.920 and this is probably
00:29:07.480 the real kicker,
00:29:08.220 a woman risking her life
00:29:09.460 to give birth to
00:29:10.360 and save her baby
00:29:11.800 as opposed,
00:29:12.900 as opposed to say
00:29:13.580 smothering the problematic
00:29:14.520 thing at birth.
00:29:15.740 Enough said?
00:29:17.600 Yes,
00:29:18.040 Bethany,
00:29:18.340 that is enough said.
00:29:18.840 I think it's a great point,
00:29:19.800 actually.
00:29:20.860 I,
00:29:21.040 you know,
00:29:21.540 I hadn't thought of that
00:29:22.560 for some reason,
00:29:23.240 but we were talking
00:29:24.960 last week
00:29:25.440 about the
00:29:25.880 really
00:29:27.460 unimpressive
00:29:29.620 collection of
00:29:31.360 Best Picture nominees
00:29:32.920 for this year's Oscars,
00:29:34.040 and they're nominating
00:29:35.320 like stupid
00:29:36.260 comic book movies
00:29:38.180 about men in rubber suits
00:29:39.640 running around
00:29:40.120 fighting bad guys
00:29:40.840 when there were actually
00:29:41.960 good movies that came out
00:29:43.320 this year,
00:29:43.820 such as
00:29:44.460 Quiet Place,
00:29:45.400 also First Man,
00:29:46.580 also a movie called
00:29:47.380 Hostels,
00:29:48.040 I think it was very good
00:29:48.600 with Christian Bale,
00:29:50.140 and those movies
00:29:52.860 were all shut out.
00:29:55.000 Quiet Place,
00:29:55.740 why was it shut out?
00:29:56.420 I think this is
00:29:56.940 probably one of the reasons.
00:29:58.280 It's got a very
00:29:59.080 pro-life message.
00:30:01.000 This is from
00:30:02.040 Jake,
00:30:03.580 he says,
00:30:04.500 I'm not necessarily
00:30:05.060 a young conservative,
00:30:05.960 but I do agree
00:30:06.580 on many ideas
00:30:07.220 put forth by the likes
00:30:08.260 of the Daily Wire
00:30:09.180 and in general
00:30:09.740 have a common discontent
00:30:11.060 for the double standards
00:30:12.240 and censorship
00:30:12.720 of the social left.
00:30:14.000 What advice
00:30:14.620 would you give
00:30:15.200 to someone like me
00:30:16.040 going into university
00:30:17.100 where I'll face
00:30:18.140 almost guaranteed
00:30:18.880 hostility for merely
00:30:19.840 supporting facts,
00:30:21.000 acting in a non-arbitrary
00:30:22.420 way,
00:30:23.540 et cetera?
00:30:25.700 Hi,
00:30:26.240 Jake.
00:30:26.460 Well,
00:30:26.800 I'll just say this
00:30:28.360 briefly.
00:30:29.300 The left's primary
00:30:30.300 way of shutting
00:30:31.080 people down,
00:30:31.820 especially on
00:30:32.900 college campuses,
00:30:33.580 is simply
00:30:34.800 to label them
00:30:35.640 racist,
00:30:36.900 homophobic,
00:30:37.560 bigoted,
00:30:37.960 sexist,
00:30:38.760 whatever.
00:30:40.440 All the ists
00:30:41.540 and isms
00:30:42.180 and phobias.
00:30:43.760 So all you really
00:30:44.740 have to do
00:30:45.380 is remember
00:30:46.620 that these are
00:30:47.340 just words.
00:30:48.140 They mean nothing.
00:30:49.500 They are the equivalent
00:30:50.640 of somebody trying
00:30:51.700 to drown out
00:30:52.640 your opinion
00:30:53.160 by plugging
00:30:53.780 their ears
00:30:54.700 and making
00:30:55.100 farting noises.
00:30:56.220 That's all it is.
00:30:57.640 These labels
00:30:58.300 are just
00:30:58.920 farting noises.
00:31:00.000 That's all you
00:31:00.780 have to think of it.
00:31:01.660 So ignore them.
00:31:03.140 Be unfazed
00:31:04.180 by them.
00:31:05.880 And also
00:31:06.560 just accept
00:31:07.280 going into it
00:31:08.160 that you're
00:31:09.360 probably not
00:31:09.920 going to be
00:31:10.340 terribly popular
00:31:11.260 on campus
00:31:11.920 if this is a
00:31:12.580 liberal school
00:31:13.120 and you don't
00:31:13.700 share all of
00:31:14.540 their beliefs,
00:31:17.480 which it's
00:31:18.380 required that you
00:31:19.100 do share
00:31:19.440 as far as
00:31:19.820 they're concerned.
00:31:20.360 So if you don't,
00:31:21.140 then you're not
00:31:21.420 going to be
00:31:21.620 terribly popular,
00:31:22.300 but you're
00:31:23.580 going to graduate
00:31:24.060 and never see
00:31:24.800 most of those
00:31:25.540 people ever again
00:31:26.240 anyway,
00:31:26.600 so it really
00:31:26.960 doesn't matter.
00:31:27.360 I don't mean
00:31:29.280 to dismiss
00:31:30.220 the challenges
00:31:30.920 of being
00:31:31.320 a conservative
00:31:31.880 or at least
00:31:32.380 a non-liberal
00:31:33.160 on a college
00:31:33.520 campus.
00:31:34.000 I know it
00:31:34.440 can be
00:31:34.700 very difficult,
00:31:35.480 but at the
00:31:35.920 end of the
00:31:36.300 day,
00:31:36.740 all it really
00:31:37.540 is,
00:31:38.140 is just
00:31:39.780 them shouting
00:31:40.440 labels at you
00:31:41.320 and being
00:31:41.880 mean,
00:31:42.560 and then
00:31:42.920 who cares,
00:31:44.040 and then you'll
00:31:44.340 graduate,
00:31:44.720 you'll never
00:31:44.940 see them again,
00:31:45.500 doesn't matter.
00:31:48.180 This from
00:31:49.080 Anonymous
00:31:49.940 says,
00:31:50.820 Being pro-LGBT
00:32:09.340 in this context
00:32:10.080 is often synonymous
00:32:10.980 with support
00:32:11.600 for heretical
00:32:12.180 ideology.
00:32:13.520 Is it possible
00:32:14.240 to let the LGBT
00:32:15.220 agenda into the
00:32:16.380 church while also
00:32:17.580 standing firm
00:32:18.500 on scriptural
00:32:19.160 authority?
00:32:20.080 I need direction
00:32:20.720 and I don't
00:32:21.100 know if I
00:32:21.580 should stay.
00:32:22.440 Well,
00:32:22.700 I'm sorry
00:32:23.060 you're in
00:32:23.360 this difficult
00:32:24.400 position.
00:32:25.600 I would say
00:32:26.120 no,
00:32:26.400 it's not
00:32:26.700 possible at
00:32:27.320 all to make
00:32:27.860 the LGBT
00:32:28.300 agenda and
00:32:29.120 scripture coincide.
00:32:30.020 It's just not
00:32:30.400 possible.
00:32:31.040 These are
00:32:31.400 directly opposed.
00:32:32.420 These are
00:32:32.740 direct opposites.
00:32:33.980 In order to
00:32:34.540 accept homosexuality
00:32:35.860 as good
00:32:36.460 and virtuous
00:32:38.380 or at least
00:32:38.900 morally neutral,
00:32:39.920 you would have
00:32:40.420 to throw out
00:32:41.340 the many,
00:32:42.980 many scripture
00:32:43.460 passages that
00:32:44.420 condemn it.
00:32:45.480 And you'd have
00:32:46.120 to get rid
00:32:46.580 of the gospels
00:32:47.300 too because
00:32:47.700 Jesus specifically
00:32:48.600 defines marriage
00:32:49.460 as between
00:32:50.420 a man and
00:32:50.780 a woman and
00:32:51.520 you'd have
00:32:51.740 to throw
00:32:52.000 out 2,000
00:32:52.600 years of
00:32:52.900 Christian
00:32:53.120 teaching.
00:32:53.520 So what
00:32:54.160 are you
00:32:54.380 left with?
00:32:55.880 You've thrown
00:32:56.520 out all of
00:32:57.000 these books
00:32:57.640 in the Bible,
00:32:58.040 you've thrown
00:32:58.280 out the
00:32:59.000 gospels,
00:32:59.500 you've thrown
00:32:59.780 out Christian
00:33:00.300 teaching.
00:33:02.300 Whatever few
00:33:03.220 books and
00:33:03.880 passages you
00:33:04.620 have left,
00:33:06.100 there's no
00:33:07.240 longer any
00:33:07.700 context or
00:33:08.740 foundation for
00:33:09.700 them and
00:33:10.580 there's no
00:33:10.860 reason to
00:33:11.280 believe them
00:33:11.720 or take them
00:33:12.120 seriously because
00:33:13.340 you've discarded
00:33:13.880 everything else.
00:33:14.740 So that's why
00:33:16.060 you just can't
00:33:16.560 do it.
00:33:17.580 A choice has
00:33:18.540 to be made.
00:33:19.020 Either we're
00:33:19.340 going to stick
00:33:19.700 with Christian
00:33:20.920 teaching and
00:33:21.660 the Bible and
00:33:22.660 what the
00:33:23.020 gospels say or
00:33:25.300 we're going to
00:33:25.780 adopt the LGBT
00:33:26.640 agenda.
00:33:27.360 So once a
00:33:28.220 church says
00:33:28.760 we're going
00:33:29.220 with the
00:33:29.480 LGBT agenda
00:33:30.320 it means that
00:33:30.740 they're tossing
00:33:31.140 out the Bible
00:33:31.680 and if I was
00:33:33.520 in that church
00:33:34.040 I would allow
00:33:35.180 myself to be
00:33:35.780 tossed out
00:33:36.220 right along
00:33:36.600 with it.
00:33:40.580 This from
00:33:41.240 Brad, he
00:33:41.700 says,
00:33:41.940 Hey Matt,
00:33:42.260 my wife and
00:33:42.740 I are expecting
00:33:43.540 our second
00:33:44.060 child in May.
00:33:45.060 I was wondering
00:33:45.500 if you have
00:33:45.840 any tips on
00:33:46.480 naming kids.
00:33:47.160 Brad, I
00:33:47.620 have long
00:33:48.140 wanted to
00:33:49.080 have a boy
00:33:49.720 and name
00:33:50.180 him Mulch.
00:33:51.660 Okay, which
00:33:52.560 I think is
00:33:52.900 just a beautiful
00:33:53.520 name.
00:33:53.940 It's a very
00:33:54.640 rugged, it's
00:33:55.620 an earthy
00:33:56.360 name with
00:33:57.360 some real
00:33:57.940 just substance
00:33:59.600 to it, right?
00:34:00.840 But we've
00:34:01.320 had two boys
00:34:02.040 and my wife
00:34:02.740 she just
00:34:03.280 refuses for
00:34:04.400 some reason
00:34:04.960 to name one
00:34:07.320 of our boys
00:34:07.760 Mulch.
00:34:08.260 So I am
00:34:09.020 handing that
00:34:10.800 name over
00:34:11.840 to you.
00:34:13.640 And really
00:34:14.300 it could be
00:34:14.700 it could go
00:34:15.820 with either
00:34:16.240 gender because
00:34:16.800 I'm progressive
00:34:17.320 in that way.
00:34:18.360 So it is
00:34:19.520 yours now.
00:34:21.420 Cherish it.
00:34:23.980 Finally,
00:34:24.700 well no,
00:34:25.420 actually finally
00:34:25.960 I got two more.
00:34:26.820 This is from
00:34:27.500 Landon.
00:34:28.000 He says,
00:34:28.300 Matt, I saw
00:34:28.720 on Twitter
00:34:29.040 you responding
00:34:29.700 to that tweet
00:34:30.300 from PETA
00:34:30.920 comparing eating
00:34:32.260 sheep to
00:34:32.840 eating dogs.
00:34:33.800 Here's my
00:34:34.160 question.
00:34:35.000 Why isn't
00:34:35.720 it okay to
00:34:36.320 eat dogs?
00:34:36.960 What exactly
00:34:37.580 would be the
00:34:38.000 problem with
00:34:38.500 that?
00:34:38.900 Not that I
00:34:39.440 want to,
00:34:40.080 I've just
00:34:40.560 always been
00:34:41.080 curious how
00:34:41.720 we decide
00:34:42.260 which animals
00:34:43.200 to eat
00:34:43.680 and which
00:34:45.660 not to.
00:34:47.240 Yeah,
00:34:47.440 he's,
00:34:47.760 there was a,
00:34:49.220 PETA did
00:34:49.680 one of their
00:34:50.320 tried and
00:34:51.880 true publicity
00:34:52.900 stunts,
00:34:53.520 I think it
00:34:53.760 was in
00:34:53.920 Australia,
00:34:54.360 where they
00:34:55.180 pretended to
00:34:55.880 roast a
00:34:56.400 dog.
00:34:56.660 It wasn't
00:34:56.840 a real
00:34:57.100 dog,
00:34:57.540 but although
00:34:58.820 it could,
00:34:59.180 I mean PETA,
00:34:59.860 they do kill
00:35:00.920 hundreds of
00:35:01.540 dogs in
00:35:01.960 their shelters
00:35:02.720 every year.
00:35:03.420 So, you
00:35:03.840 know, but
00:35:04.060 no, this
00:35:04.360 was a fake
00:35:06.700 dog that
00:35:07.260 they were
00:35:07.460 pretending
00:35:07.700 to roast
00:35:08.320 over a
00:35:09.940 grill trying
00:35:11.220 to make some
00:35:11.660 sort of stupid
00:35:12.140 point about,
00:35:12.640 hey, if
00:35:12.960 you're
00:35:13.080 uncomfortable
00:35:13.420 eating a
00:35:13.900 dog, then
00:35:14.700 you should
00:35:14.940 be uncomfortable
00:35:15.360 eating sheep
00:35:15.980 and pigs
00:35:16.380 and cows
00:35:17.520 and stuff.
00:35:18.480 All right, so,
00:35:19.580 but why don't
00:35:20.040 we eat dogs?
00:35:20.660 Well, it's
00:35:21.000 purely a social
00:35:21.660 convention, of
00:35:22.200 course, that's
00:35:22.640 all.
00:35:22.880 There's nothing
00:35:23.480 objectively wrong
00:35:24.360 with eating
00:35:24.700 dogs.
00:35:25.220 They do it
00:35:25.840 in other
00:35:26.080 countries.
00:35:27.220 Obviously,
00:35:27.580 there's not
00:35:27.980 some sort
00:35:28.320 of objective
00:35:28.900 thing about
00:35:29.840 dogs that
00:35:30.640 makes them
00:35:31.080 more valuable
00:35:31.800 than, say,
00:35:32.400 pigs.
00:35:33.040 Pigs are
00:35:33.420 intelligent,
00:35:34.260 four-legged
00:35:34.760 mammals, just
00:35:37.100 like dogs.
00:35:37.880 Cows are
00:35:38.600 less intelligent,
00:35:39.680 but they're
00:35:39.940 four-legged
00:35:40.440 mammals.
00:35:41.020 So, it's
00:35:43.300 just our
00:35:43.680 social custom
00:35:44.520 to eat
00:35:44.920 cows and
00:35:45.440 pigs and
00:35:46.120 not dogs,
00:35:46.940 and that's
00:35:47.200 all.
00:35:47.840 Now, I
00:35:48.220 have no
00:35:48.540 desire to
00:35:49.100 eat a
00:35:49.320 dog, but
00:35:50.160 if I was
00:35:50.540 starving or
00:35:51.460 something and
00:35:51.980 there was a
00:35:52.420 dog nearby,
00:35:53.400 you're damn
00:35:54.000 right I would
00:35:54.420 eat it.
00:35:54.740 and if I
00:35:56.960 was visiting a
00:35:58.220 foreign country
00:35:58.980 and someone
00:35:59.780 served Fido
00:36:01.900 up for
00:36:03.280 dinner, if
00:36:04.640 there was a
00:36:05.000 dog stir
00:36:05.600 fry or
00:36:06.060 something,
00:36:07.240 if there
00:36:08.380 was like
00:36:08.800 Rex lasagna,
00:36:10.560 whatever it is,
00:36:11.180 then I would
00:36:11.740 eat it because
00:36:12.240 I wouldn't
00:36:12.520 want to be
00:36:12.840 rude.
00:36:16.560 But, you
00:36:18.240 know,
00:36:18.420 generally I
00:36:19.320 wouldn't eat
00:36:19.540 dogs.
00:36:20.160 But by the
00:36:20.740 way, here's
00:36:21.320 the point.
00:36:21.620 when I
00:36:23.240 call it a
00:36:23.740 social convention,
00:36:25.260 that doesn't
00:36:26.240 mean that it's
00:36:26.680 necessarily
00:36:27.180 arbitrary or
00:36:28.240 meaningless.
00:36:28.820 That's not
00:36:29.100 what I mean.
00:36:30.640 In other
00:36:30.980 words, even
00:36:32.180 though I
00:36:32.480 don't think
00:36:32.820 there's anything
00:36:33.260 objectively wrong
00:36:34.200 with eating a
00:36:35.000 dog, and I
00:36:35.940 wouldn't judge
00:36:37.460 other cultures
00:36:38.200 for eating
00:36:38.760 dogs, and I
00:36:39.540 wouldn't sit
00:36:39.820 there and say,
00:36:40.340 no, you have
00:36:40.760 to eat pigs
00:36:41.240 instead because
00:36:41.780 that's what we
00:36:42.320 prefer, I
00:36:44.060 would still
00:36:44.440 agree that it
00:36:44.880 would be really
00:36:45.280 weird for
00:36:46.160 someone in our
00:36:46.860 country to eat
00:36:47.620 a dog, unless
00:36:48.720 they're starving,
00:36:49.400 of course.
00:36:50.520 And that's
00:36:50.880 because the
00:36:51.340 social convention
00:36:52.180 stems from
00:36:52.880 another social
00:36:53.580 convention, which
00:36:54.640 is to value
00:36:55.340 dogs above
00:36:56.380 other animals, to
00:36:57.660 domesticate them,
00:36:58.580 bring them into
00:36:59.080 the family, and
00:37:00.260 so on.
00:37:00.960 And so in that
00:37:01.800 context, it would
00:37:02.760 be very weird and
00:37:03.740 inappropriate to
00:37:04.420 eat one.
00:37:05.300 But there are
00:37:05.780 some countries that
00:37:06.480 simply don't have
00:37:07.300 that context, that
00:37:08.080 don't value dogs
00:37:08.900 the same way, that
00:37:09.660 don't, that
00:37:10.540 don't, um, just
00:37:12.480 don't see them the
00:37:13.340 same way.
00:37:14.580 And so in that
00:37:15.880 context, they're
00:37:16.520 fighting.
00:37:16.960 This is not moral
00:37:17.860 relativism, by the
00:37:18.780 way.
00:37:18.880 As I said, the
00:37:19.400 objective morality
00:37:20.320 remains the same, I'm
00:37:22.260 just talking about the
00:37:22.940 general appropriateness, as
00:37:25.280 the philosophers might
00:37:26.280 put it, the what is
00:37:27.720 most fitting.
00:37:29.240 Um, so I'm talking
00:37:30.700 about what is most
00:37:31.300 fitting.
00:37:31.800 It is not fitting for
00:37:33.160 us to eat dogs in this
00:37:34.160 country, although it
00:37:34.800 might be in other
00:37:35.740 countries.
00:37:36.560 Finally, uh, an
00:37:38.640 email from someone that
00:37:40.780 I'll call Mark.
00:37:42.140 Mark writes in part,
00:37:43.880 hey, Matt, love the
00:37:44.520 show.
00:37:44.720 Just wondering if you
00:37:45.320 could help me out on
00:37:46.040 an issue.
00:37:46.400 I'm 23, in a
00:37:47.500 relationship for six
00:37:48.320 years.
00:37:49.020 She is also 23.
00:37:50.900 But we've been apart
00:37:51.960 due to university.
00:37:52.720 We're from Europe for
00:37:53.560 about four years.
00:37:54.200 We're together at the
00:37:54.880 weekends and all, but I
00:37:55.980 feel that after six
00:37:56.860 years, I barely had one
00:37:57.900 year of complete
00:37:58.500 experience with her.
00:37:59.320 I feel like I don't
00:37:59.880 really know her that
00:38:00.780 deeply.
00:38:01.280 And that makes me
00:38:02.080 insecure about moving
00:38:02.980 with her, moving in
00:38:04.020 with her, getting
00:38:04.500 married, et cetera.
00:38:05.900 Uh, well, you shouldn't
00:38:06.440 move in with her before
00:38:07.060 getting married because
00:38:07.720 statistics show that,
00:38:08.800 you know, if you move
00:38:10.160 in first, you're likely
00:38:11.180 to have divorce is much
00:38:11.940 higher.
00:38:12.180 So I would recommend
00:38:12.840 cutting that step out.
00:38:13.640 But anyway, um, lately
00:38:15.320 we've been discussing
00:38:16.100 some serious topics and
00:38:17.000 I noticed she doesn't
00:38:17.700 care about factual
00:38:18.600 things that much.
00:38:19.660 All that matters is how
00:38:20.500 people feel in her
00:38:21.600 opinion.
00:38:22.860 Everyone is right in
00:38:23.660 their interpretation of
00:38:24.460 the world and
00:38:24.900 situations.
00:38:25.780 Therefore, I cannot judge
00:38:26.860 or say someone is
00:38:27.760 wrong, according to
00:38:28.500 her.
00:38:28.980 I'm a Christian and a
00:38:29.760 conservative and I
00:38:30.380 wanted to know if you
00:38:31.220 have any piece of
00:38:31.780 advice on how I can
00:38:32.780 manage my relationships.
00:38:34.060 Saying it's doomed is
00:38:34.900 also an option.
00:38:36.320 Thank you for your
00:38:36.800 time.
00:38:37.920 Um, all right, well,
00:38:39.100 I'll put on my Dr.
00:38:39.840 Love hat here for just
00:38:40.800 one second.
00:38:41.540 So there are three
00:38:42.180 issues here.
00:38:42.700 First of all, there's
00:38:43.380 the distance, the
00:38:44.140 length there.
00:38:45.140 So there's the
00:38:45.560 distance, there's the
00:38:46.300 length of time you've
00:38:47.280 been together, and
00:38:48.240 there's the apparent
00:38:48.840 lack of shared value.
00:38:50.460 So those are three
00:38:51.000 different issues.
00:38:52.200 As for the distance,
00:38:53.120 that's not really an
00:38:53.880 issue or it wouldn't
00:38:55.740 be.
00:38:56.100 If everything else
00:38:56.980 lines up, my wife and
00:38:58.780 I, when we first met,
00:38:59.560 we were two and a half
00:39:00.120 hours apart.
00:39:00.860 It was, it was a, it
00:39:02.700 was a struggle, but it
00:39:03.740 wasn't, it wasn't an
00:39:04.660 issue.
00:39:05.040 It wasn't anything that
00:39:05.880 ever made either of us
00:39:06.980 consider breaking it
00:39:07.820 off.
00:39:08.480 So if everything else is
00:39:09.740 right, then the fact
00:39:10.640 that you've, you know,
00:39:11.500 that you're a few
00:39:12.120 hours apart really
00:39:13.160 isn't a big deal.
00:39:14.560 Lack of shared values.
00:39:17.520 Well, I will say, um,
00:39:19.780 that is much more of
00:39:22.020 an issue.
00:39:23.720 Although, you know, you
00:39:26.080 say, you talk about how
00:39:27.080 she's much more focused
00:39:28.100 on how people feel and
00:39:29.540 she's more focused on,
00:39:30.620 on feelings and
00:39:31.620 emotions and all of
00:39:33.040 that.
00:39:33.460 Well, most women are
00:39:34.560 like that to some
00:39:35.420 extent, which isn't to
00:39:36.480 say that they don't
00:39:37.040 care about facts at
00:39:37.960 all, but just the
00:39:38.900 reality is that women
00:39:39.840 are more relational
00:39:41.320 and they're more
00:39:41.900 focused on, on, uh,
00:39:43.320 emotions and more
00:39:44.080 empathetic and all of
00:39:45.600 that kind of thing.
00:39:46.660 And that's one of the
00:39:47.560 complimentary differences
00:39:48.940 between men and women
00:39:51.020 that makes everything
00:39:51.640 work.
00:39:52.780 So I can tell you that,
00:39:53.840 that, that my wife
00:39:55.560 being the empathetic
00:39:57.320 one, being the one
00:39:58.740 who's in touch with
00:39:59.520 feelings and all that
00:40:00.380 stuff, uh, that's very
00:40:01.900 good for me because I
00:40:02.620 struggle with that.
00:40:03.260 But, however, if you
00:40:07.740 lack a shared value
00:40:08.880 system, if she actually
00:40:10.600 is a moral relativist,
00:40:12.360 which you seem to also
00:40:13.140 be implying, and if you
00:40:14.760 feel like you aren't on
00:40:15.540 the same page because
00:40:16.920 you're a Christian
00:40:17.460 conservative and she's
00:40:18.280 not, then that's
00:40:19.560 something else entirely
00:40:20.520 and that is an issue,
00:40:21.520 that is an obstacle,
00:40:22.360 it's not insurmountable.
00:40:23.600 I've known plenty of
00:40:24.300 people, I've known of
00:40:25.160 plenty of people, plenty
00:40:26.080 of couples who've been
00:40:27.260 successful and happy,
00:40:28.340 although that they,
00:40:28.940 although they come from
00:40:30.200 very different perspectives
00:40:31.060 on, on really important
00:40:32.320 things like religion
00:40:33.200 and, uh, and, um,
00:40:35.740 principles and all of
00:40:36.720 that.
00:40:37.520 So it's not necessarily
00:40:38.680 a relationship killer,
00:40:39.660 but it's a significant
00:40:40.780 roadblock.
00:40:42.640 Um, and that brings us
00:40:44.720 to the third thing,
00:40:45.680 which is the length of
00:40:46.640 your relationship.
00:40:47.220 You've been together
00:40:47.840 for six years.
00:40:50.040 Like, if you've been
00:40:50.840 with someone for six
00:40:51.620 years and you still
00:40:53.000 don't know if you want
00:40:54.720 to marry them, uh, and
00:40:56.140 if you're saying, well,
00:40:56.940 it's possible the
00:40:57.700 relationship is doomed
00:40:58.600 still after six years,
00:41:00.820 then I would say that's
00:41:02.080 really not a good
00:41:02.620 sign, I'm afraid,
00:41:04.120 because you should
00:41:05.680 know everything you
00:41:07.720 need to know about a
00:41:08.520 person heading into
00:41:09.800 marriage, um, after
00:41:12.320 six years.
00:41:13.040 You should know it
00:41:13.740 after six months,
00:41:14.560 although for you, six
00:41:15.300 months, you would have
00:41:15.860 been 17 or 18, so,
00:41:17.300 but certainly after six
00:41:18.400 years, you know
00:41:20.080 everything you could
00:41:21.080 possibly need to know
00:41:22.580 about someone, uh,
00:41:25.080 before you marry them.
00:41:26.120 Assuming she isn't
00:41:27.040 hiding some deep, dark
00:41:28.200 secret, like she's a
00:41:28.940 serial killer or
00:41:29.600 something.
00:41:30.460 That aside, you know
00:41:33.340 everything there is to
00:41:34.240 know about her, um, or
00:41:36.220 everything that you could
00:41:37.240 know about her while
00:41:38.540 only dating.
00:41:39.340 Now, when you get
00:41:39.900 married, you learn a lot
00:41:40.740 more about a person, you
00:41:41.540 get to know them in a
00:41:42.240 much deeper way, but
00:41:44.440 there's only so far you
00:41:45.420 can go dating with that
00:41:46.980 because you haven't made
00:41:49.000 that commitment to each
00:41:50.860 other and you haven't
00:41:52.180 made that vow.
00:41:54.460 So there's only so far you
00:41:55.780 can get in knowing
00:41:56.840 someone, and once you've
00:41:58.620 reached that point, it's
00:41:59.820 like either you get
00:42:00.520 married or you don't.
00:42:02.240 There's no point in
00:42:03.060 waiting anymore, so you
00:42:06.340 just make the decision.
00:42:07.500 And certainly after six
00:42:08.360 years, you would know,
00:42:09.420 and, um, so if you still
00:42:10.700 have doubts and
00:42:11.220 reservations after six
00:42:12.140 years, I would say maybe
00:42:13.040 it's time for a
00:42:14.140 reassessment, though of
00:42:15.360 course that is your, um,
00:42:17.980 decision to make.
00:42:19.460 All right, we'll leave it
00:42:21.180 there.
00:42:21.440 Thanks for watching,
00:42:22.000 everybody.
00:42:22.300 Thanks for listening.
00:42:23.200 Godspeed.
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