Ep. 194 - The Totally Insane And Utterly Hilarious Green New Deal
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Summary
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez unveils her Green New Deal. It is hilarious, it is also terrifying. We will dissect it point by point, and tell you some of the craziest things from this plan. Also, speaking of Cortez, she claimed that all Hispanic people have a right to enter the U.S., a birthright, because they are all Native Americans. I ll talk about why that is completely wrong.
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Today on The Matt Wall Show, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez unveils her Green New Deal.
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We will dissect it point by point, and I'll tell you some of the craziest things from this plan.
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Also, speaking of Cortez, she claimed that all Hispanic people have a right to enter the U.S.,
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a birthright, because they are all Native Americans, according to her.
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and also I'll point out a special irony with someone named Cortez making that claim.
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We'll talk about all that today on The Matt Wall Show.
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You know, Ben Shapiro called it one of the stupidest documents ever written,
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This is, how can you complain about something that promises to give you free housing,
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free college, free health care, and a livable income, even if you don't feel like working?
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So this is, I mean, how can anyone complain about this?
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Oh, right, because it's completely insane and impossible and delusional and childish,
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and it's the kind of thing that would sound brilliant if you were high or severely concussed.
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So, okay, that's the reason why it's a stupid plan.
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A plan, by the way, that all of the most prominent Democratic presidential candidates,
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Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, have, I think five or six of them at least,
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And now, if we had an honest media, which of course we don't, but if we did,
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that would be fatal for them, for these Democratic candidates,
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because then they would be forced to justify and explain every crazy, delusional, idiotic thing in
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this plan, and it would totally discredit them.
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So the media, you know, the media is not going to stop Cory Booker and say,
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hey, by the way, how are we going to build a train track across the entire ocean?
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That's not going to happen because they don't want to embarrass him.
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The train track thing we'll get to in a second.
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Let me read a little bit from this plan, and we'll just kind of,
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we'll just, you know, we'll just, we'll see what we think of it.
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So it says, this is a massive transformation of our society with clear goals and a timeline.
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The Green New Deal resolution, a 10-year plan to mobilize every aspect of American society
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at a scale not seen since World War II to achieve net zero greenhouse gas emissions
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It will move America to 100% clean and renewable energy, create millions of family-supporting
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And by the way, I don't want to be a spoiler alert, I guess here, but at no point does this
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It's just, it's just stated that they're going to create jobs.
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I guess what they're, I, because if you write it in a plan, right, that's all you have to
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Write it down on a plan and say, we should have more jobs.
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And then, and then just like that, the jobs appear.
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Uh, ensure a just transition for all communities and workers to ensure economic security for
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people and communities that have historically relied on fossil fuel industries.
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Ensure a just transition for all communities and workers to ensure economic security.
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Ensure justice and equity for frontline communities by prioritizing investment, training, climate
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and community resiliency, economic and environmental benefits in these communities.
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Like I said, these are, this is, these aren't even sentences.
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had a bucket of words that she dumped on a page and this is it.
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Um, also a job with a family sustaining wage, family and medical leave, vacations and retirement
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This, these are, by the way, now I'm listing all the things that we're going to get high
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quality education, including higher education and trade schools, clean air and water and
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She's going to ensure that we all have access to nature.
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If there's anyone living, uh, maybe in some sort of giant biodome on Mars, then they might
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not have access to nature, but the rest of us do.
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All you have to do is just walk outside and there you go.
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Um, also healthy food, high quality healthcare, safe, affordable, adequate housing, economic
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environment free, an economic environment free of monopoly monopolies, economic security
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Let me, in case you missed that, she is going to ensure economic security for all who are
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So with this plan, you could just say, nah, don't feel like working.
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Uh, and then if you're not willing to work, then, then what she'll do is she'll send you
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to, so there's going to be two magical trees, right?
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There's going to be the affordable, uh, the livable income tree.
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And, uh, so if you want to work, you'll go to that, to that magic tree and you'll pluck
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a livable income off of the tree and put it into a basket and bring it and skip merrily
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Or if you don't want to work, then you can go to the economic security tree and pluck a
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bit of economic security off the tree and put that in the basket and skip on home.
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Something tells me that the economic security tree is going to be a lot more popular than
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And we'll, we'll get more to that in a second, because remember, this is a very important
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part of this, that by ensuring economic security, not to mention free housing, free healthcare,
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free college for everybody, even if you're not willing to work, you have just made it
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so that there is no incentive to work, which is a big problem because as we'll see here
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in a minute, um, a lot of what Cortez is talking about here will require a lot of work.
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There's a lot of work that's going to need to be done in order for all this stuff to happen,
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but there's not going to be anyone to do the work because you've just made it so that we
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can sit home on the couch and, um, live like Kings.
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By the way, one other thing before we get to some other highlights or, um, lowlights from
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this bill, what does any of this have to do with the environment?
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There are a few things in there, clean air, clean water, fine, but free education, free
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I thought this was supposed to be a green new deal, but most of this stuff has absolutely
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nothing to do with the environment one way or another.
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Um, so here are some other highlights from the bill up or the, the plan, I should say upgrade
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or replace every building in the U S for state of the art energy efficiency.
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So every building, not even just every commercial building, there are, there are over 5 million
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commercial buildings in the U S, um, which would be a big project all on its own to, to
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update or replace 5 million commercial buildings.
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And also keep in mind that many of those commercial buildings are in, um, cities and they are like
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Um, so to replace, so before we even get to anything else, she's talking about replacing
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almost every skyscraper in the entire country, a skyscraper.
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I think I read somewhere that the, um, I was reading recently, I don't know why about the
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most expensive buildings in the world and the world trade center, for instance, it costs like
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Um, these massive skyscrapers cost hundreds of millions, if not over a billion dollars.
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So just to replace every skyscraper, you're talking about billions upon billions of dollars.
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And then we get to every retail store, all the Walmarts, all that's all the shopping centers,
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Now that doesn't mean that all of them live in single family homes.
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Like we're also talking condominiums, apartments, townhouses, all that stuff.
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And we haven't even got to the, the schools, churches, hospitals, post offices, all of that
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So we were talking about hundreds of millions of buildings that need to be replaced.
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This is what is, this is going to be trillions of dollars that you just on this project alone.
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I mean, this is just step one guys to tear down every single building in America and rebuild
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Now we also are going to totally overhaul transportation by massively expanding electric
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vehicle manufacturing, build charging stations everywhere.
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I mean, there, there'll be five of them right here in this room.
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Um, so much of this plan, it reads like something that, you know, she, something it's, it's like
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something she had to come up with for her 11th grade, um, economics class or something like
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And, you know, she, she forgot to do the project and then she remembered the night before.
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And so she's just rushing and writing it down, like, uh, build charging stations everywhere.
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Um, and by the way, this would be, if this was for an economics project in high school,
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this, she would definitely get a failing grade for this.
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Um, create affordable public transit of transit available to all build out high speed rail at
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a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary.
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If we are building enough high speed rail to make air travel unnecessary, we would of course
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need this mythical railway system primarily built across the ocean because that is, that
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So if you want to make it unnecessary, there's no getting around the fact that you are going
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to need a railway system that stretches across the entire length of the Pacific and across
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And you're, you're probably going to need many railway systems going across the Pacific because
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the Pacific is a, is a pretty large body of water.
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And if you only have one railway system going across it, well, that's going to lead to a lot
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of congestion and it's not going to be very accessible to everybody.
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So you're probably going to need hundreds of railroads that are just stretching across
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Um, now there is just so you know, there's about 5,000 miles separating California from
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So this railroad system would have to span across 5,000 miles and it would also have to
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be built over water that is 13,000 feet deep on average.
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So you would need a structure, you would need giant 13,000 foot structures, like pillars that
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these, that these, this railroad system is going to be built upon.
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Um, so this is a project that would take, I mean, you got to think probably centuries and
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Um, and not to mention, you know, being out in the middle of the Pacific, trying to install
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these 13,000 foot structures so that you can build, that's a very dangerous work.
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Uh, and we're going to lose a lot of lives doing this, which that goes back to the problem
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of who's going to volunteer to go out into the middle of the Pacific and build a railroad
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system when you've just said that they can sit home if they're unwilling to work and get
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Uh, another part of the plan, plant lots of trees.
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I mean, we can plant lots of trees, but once again, we see this sort of thing where it looks
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like it's dashed off at the last minute because she was procrastinating.
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And so, uh, we need another thing, but plant lots of trees.
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Uh, and then, and then finally, she also wants to abolish cows.
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She wants to get rid of cows, actually farting cows specifically, but all cows fart.
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So the, um, and yes, the phrase farting cows actually appears verbatim in this allegedly
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serious proposal written by a United States Congresswoman and endorsed, remember, by all
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of the prominent, uh, democratic presidential candidates.
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It says, we set a goal to get to net zero rather than zero emissions in 10 years, because
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we aren't sure that we'll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that
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So the implication is that getting rid of gassy cows is a goal that they have, but she's not
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So that may be the most reasonable concession that Cortez makes in this entire document when
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she says, okay, maybe we can't get rid of every cow.
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Actually, you think we can rebuild every single building in the country, build railway systems
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across the Pacific, um, provide free housing, free education, free healthcare, free income
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to everyone, yet getting rid of all the cows is the thing that you're not sure we'll be
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That's where you get conservative all of a sudden.
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I mean, that's one thing that we could, I don't think it'd be a good idea, but we could
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probably get rid of all the cows in like a week.
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I mean, if you wanted to just go and carpet bomb all the, all the, um, all the cattle farms
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or maybe go out there with machine guns and just, and just take down all the cows, you
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I mean, if you sent out, maybe you sent out some Navy SEAL squads or, um, I don't know,
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you could deploy if you needed to deploy the military.
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Um, and I, I think they could probably slaughter all the cows within a week, probably.
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Well, are we talking about killing all of them in some sort of mass cow genocide?
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Or the only other option would be, well, we could ship them all off to some sort of island
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like cow fart Island or something, but then they're still going to be ruining the environment
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So, uh, the only other option beyond that would be to launch them into space and then,
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you know, just send them out into interstellar space.
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And then maybe they'll eventually land in some other alien civilization.
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Can you imagine being an alien, an alien civilization and some, some spacecraft lands and then a bunch
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I'll tell you one thing they're going to wonder, like, how did these cows,
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Well, she doesn't really answer that question, but in the FAQ, the frequently asked question
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portion of the document, it says, how will you pay for it?
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And the answer is the same way we paid for the new deal, the 2008 bank bailout and extended
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quantitative easing programs, the same way we paid for World War II and all our current
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The Federal Reserve can extend credit to power these projects and investments and new public
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Uh, there's also space for the government to take an equity stake in projects to get a return
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At the end of the day, this is an investment in our economy that should grow our wealth
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So the question isn't how we will pay for it, but what we will do with all of our new
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In other words, um, she has no idea how we're going to pay for it.
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The question isn't how we're going to pay for it.
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It's what are we going to do with all of our prosperity?
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That's the question, which is just the classic line of a con man trying to sell you something.
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No, no, don't worry about how you're going to pay for it.
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Just think about, it's like someone who's trying to sell you on a pyramid scheme.
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And so then rather than explaining the details of the plan, they show you pictures of like
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And you're asking questions, why, wait, how is this going to work?
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Just think about how you're going to spend all the money you're going to make.
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Now I was thinking about this and listen, it's really easy to make fun of this plan and to
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Um, it's really easy to do because it's such an enormously stupid idea.
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But then I was also thinking, listen, if we're going to do this thing, let's go all the way.
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You could actually argue that the Green New Deal, the main problem with it is that it's
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If, if, if you're, if we're going to do it, let's do this thing.
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Also think about the fact that if, if they have the ability to do this, then they must
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have access to not only trillions of dollars, but even like magical genies and wizards who
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can, who can, because most of this stuff is impossible without magical superpowers.
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And so if they have access, which I assume that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez must, if she has
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access to a team of highly trained genies, then I've got some other ideas.
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Um, this is my idea for what we could call it a new green new deal, or maybe a green
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I actually have 20 things I would like to add to the deal.
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Um, and I just want to offer these up as a suggestion.
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Number one, a free ice cream machine for every American.
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And of course this would have to be vegan ice cream because Cortez is killing all the milk
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Remember number two, every sidewalk in America.
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Converted to a moving walkway at number three, every staircase converted to an escalator.
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Number four, every escalator converted to an elevator.
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Number five, I'm thinking of a big bridge connecting North Carolina to like Morocco.
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With like refreshment stands and stuff along the way.
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And then you would also probably need like some cabins or something so people can stop and
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sleep because they might get, yeah, it's kind of, it would be kind of a long walk.
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Uh, number six, a free blimp for every American.
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Number nine, uh, essential oils for every foot bath because you don't want to take a foot bath
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if you're not going to be exfoliating your skin at the same time.
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Um, number 10, this to me seems really obvious instead of, and this is where I'm showing Cortez,
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she's, she's not thinking big enough here because she's saying, well, let's have free
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So how about we say no more diseases and then you don't need healthcare.
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You know, I think it's something we should include in the plan.
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Number 12, a constantly refreshed selection of cereal in every pantry.
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Um, number 13, uh, I'm thinking we need like, um, uh, magical lions that can read us stories
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You know, I, I, I think again, if we're, if we're going to be doing this, why not immortality?
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Um, number 15, I'm thinking every person should have this computer type thing, like from the
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matrix, or you can plug in and learn how to do karate in five minutes.
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Um, number 19, um, free pony rides for everyone, but consensual pony rides, of course.
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Uh, number 19, I'm thinking of every person should have a kind of like a robot thing that
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lifts you out of bed in the morning and brushes your teeth for you and puts on your pants for
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And number 20, finally, and this, and this is really the, the highlight of my plan of the,
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Um, I think that student loan debt should be converted into tacos.
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Every dollar of student loan debt that you have equals one taco.
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So if you have $30,000 of debt, well, then you get 30,000 tacos.
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You see, I mean, pretty, it's like, how hasn't anyone thought of this yet?
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If you change it into tacos, then the debt's gone and now you have tacos.
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I, you know, I was, I'm going to write this up in an official proposal and send it to Alexandria
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And, uh, hopefully she'll, she'll, she'll add that to the plan.
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So we'll, we'll, you know, stay tuned for that.
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I hate to, uh, I hate to keep talking about this woman, but Cortez, she also spoke at a
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Um, they were, some progressive members of Congress were rallying against ICE and CBP,
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Um, they were rallying against their own law enforcement agencies, um, because the thing
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that they're upset about is that these agencies enforce the law.
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Um, I want you to listen to one thing that Cortez said at this rally.
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Because we are standing on native land and Latino people are descendants of native people
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and we cannot be told and criminalized simply for our identity or our status.
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She says we are standing on native land and Latino people are descendants of native people and
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we cannot be told and criminalized simply for our identity and our status.
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Um, there weren't many Aztecs with names like that.
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You're not going to find Alexandria Cortez among the Aztecs.
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It just so happens that Cortez shares a last name with the most famous conquistador in history,
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Because people from Central America, many of them, are actually descended from the Spanish,
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Um, now, so, so now I don't know this as a fact.
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I'm just saying that she, well, I know as a fact that's that, um, many people from Central
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America, from Central America are descended in part from Spanish Europeans.
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I don't know that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is related to Hernán Cortez, but they do have
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Um, and now I happen to think that Hernán Cortez is one of the great heroes of Western civilization
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because he overthrew an evil, violent empire of violent, of, of ruthless human sacrificers.
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Um, but still the point remains that Alexandria may well be descended from the guy who came
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here on a boat and overthrew a native civilization.
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Now, it's true that people from Central and South America, um, also are likely descended from
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So they're, most of them are a mix, just as most people everywhere in the world are a
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mix of different, um, ethnicities and, and, um, cultures and so on.
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She's treating, and this is very common, the left, they do this all the time, where they
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treat native people like a monolith, as if, as if someone who is partially descended from
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a tribe in Central America, like the Aztecs also has some kind of rightful claim to the
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continental U.S., which makes no sense whatsoever.
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It's like saying that somebody from Italy has a birthright claim to, to France, or someone
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from Sweden has a rightful claim to Norway, or someone from, uh, from, from Ghana has a
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Point being, just because your ancestors came from a certain hemisphere or continent doesn't
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mean that your birthright gives you access to that entire section of the globe.
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Um, Indians, or native people, or indigenous people, or whatever phrase you want to use,
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these were not, this was not one homogenous unified group.
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They were fractured, separate, distinct, different people.
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They didn't consider themselves, there was no, um, they didn't consider themselves to be one
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big, giant, unified people because they weren't.
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Now, sometimes they lived in cooperation with the tribes around them.
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Sometimes they enslaved and killed each other, um, which again, you find that all across the
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Someone who lives in Mexico now, there's a very good chance that they are descended from
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Spanish Europeans and also perhaps, um, native tribes from Central America.
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But that by no means implies that they are also natives to the continental U.S.
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I want to read, uh, let's get to, to the inbox before we wrap up for the week here.
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Um, mattwalshowatgmail.com, mattwalshowatgmail.com.
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You can email your thoughts, questions, concerns, hate mail, whatever you got.
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It says, my second grader is doing a project on MLK Jr.
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where he's supposed to dress up as the leader and give a report.
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Each kid in the class has a different historical figure and my son got MLK.
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He was so excited when he came home to tell me and wanted to discuss his costume.
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I told him that we could put him in a suit and draw the facial hair, but that we couldn't
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But I explained that it wasn't appropriate because it hurt the feelings of people of color.
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But he, rightfully, I think, doesn't think anyone will get his costume.
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There is absolutely no way I would put my little boy in blackface, even though he only
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wants to do it to honor the former civil rights hero.
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My question is, given the current climate, why would they give a little white boy this
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I am super proud that he wants to honor MLK and his presentation will be awesome.
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But I am put off by the fact that he, that, that they asked him to dress up in costume
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It feels like entrapment for his potential future aspirations.
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Um, yeah, I mean, I agree that the school should have known better than this.
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In this environment, you really are setting a kid up for, uh, for some problems.
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I mean, I, it's amazing to me, especially given everything that's happened over the past
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week, that the school has an assignment to dress up like some historical figure and they
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assign MLK to a white kid and say, dress up like him.
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Um, but this also just shows how crazy our culture has become because you shouldn't have
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Everyone should just understand that he's a young child dressing as someone he admires.
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So it should be a total non-issue, but our culture is so crazy and so unreasonable.
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Um, and looking to just, we're looking to destroy each other for the smallest little
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reason that, that now this is something you have to worry about.
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And I think that's just a, um, although it was stupid on the part of the school, it's
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It is a, it is a, uh, reflection of the insanity of our culture that you as the parent even
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This is from someone who I'm not sure if they want me to use their name or not.
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I was 19 and I got pregnant because I was not on birth control since I thought it wouldn't
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I was still fresh, a freshman in college and did not want a baby to quote, ruin my education
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I was considering abortion, even though I knew it was wrong.
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However, my boyfriend who was also still in school stepped up and convinced me to keep
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He told me that it was his baby too, and that I can't just abort his child.
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I never finished my degree, but I do not regret it at all.
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I am content because of the joy my babies bring to everyone in my family.
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I wish that more men would be like my husband and own up to their actions.
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Men need to stop running away from their families.
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It's really scary to see that some people don't understand that abortion is murder.
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I didn't fully understand it when I was young, but after becoming a mother, I honestly cannot
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It makes my blood boil that babies are murdered every day, and it's done by medical professionals.
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Well, I would say keep doing what you're doing.
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Both you and your husbands are heroes in my book, and it's really incredible and really
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great to hear a story about a man stepping up like that, speaking up for his child, and
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being encouraging and supportive to his pregnant girlfriend.
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And there are many stories like this that don't get highlighted, but still not enough, not
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And I totally agree with you that, you know, when we talk about abortion as a women's issue,
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it's unfair to men, and it also lets men off the hook too much.
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So it's unfair to the good men, and it lets the lazy scumbag men off the hook.
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And it's also just incorrect, as you point out.
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So there are a lot of men out there, unfortunately.
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There are plenty of cowardly, lazy, just bad men who are perfectly happy to talk about abortion
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being a women's issue and say, look, I have no opinion.
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They can do what they want because it completely, they think it absolves them of all guilt.
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So they can go get women pregnant, and then they say, hey, it's your issue to deal with.
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But then there are also good men out there who, what they're being told is that when they
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create a child, when they create a human being, that that's not their child.
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But anyway, thank you for sharing that inspirational story.
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I share your political views 100% and your religious views for the most part.
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I also appreciate your stance on homeschooling as I was homeschooled, and my wife and I plan
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to homeschool our daughter when she reaches the age.
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I am writing in regards to your show comments from earlier in the week about whether infants
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I come from the Reformed Calvinist point of view, and I must disagree on your position.
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As hard as it is to think about from a human perspective, I do not believe that we can assume
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all infants are spared hell and go straight to heaven.
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As a Calvinist Christian, we ascribe to the doctrine of election and reprobation.
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I am not sure how Catholics such as yourself view this doctrine, but we believe that all
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people that have ever been and will ever be on this earth are in two camps, the elect
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As Christians, we believe only those written in the Book of Life will enter heaven.
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And we also believe all people are conceived and born with the curse of the original sin.
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So even an infant, while not capable of actual sin, is still guilty of original sin.
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I believe the children of believers are granted the reward of eternal life if they pass at an
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early stage, but I do not believe we can assume the same for unbelievers.
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The Bible clearly states that only the chosen will enter heaven.
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Therefore, I believe it is dangerous to assume God makes an exception for all infants.
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I realize it is a terrible thing to think about, but I think it is the truth.
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I hope you see what I'm trying to articulate here.
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I am far from a theologian or an expert by any stretch.
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Just a simple farm boy raised in a conservative country church.
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I appreciate your email and your support for the show.
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I don't mean this with any hostility whatsoever.
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But I have to say that I find this, and I know that you're far from the only person that
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And you articulated the point of view quite eloquently, and so I appreciate that.
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But I do find that point of view to be horrific, honestly.
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Okay, so this is not some theoretical in-between place, right?
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You're talking about hell, hell, like actual hell.
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A place of eternal torment, I assume, is what you mean by hell.
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And also, when we talk about the word eternal, eternal means very little to us because we
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can't possibly wrap our heads around what it means.
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And so every moment, a moment comes, it runs out, we get another moment, and that's how
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we experience time, which makes it just impossible to think about eternity.
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And so sometimes I think we're able to, you know, maybe there are some people that are
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able to, and I'm not saying you're doing this, but maybe there are some people who are
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able to sort of casually say, yeah, maybe some babies go to hell for all eternity, because
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they don't even think about what eternity means.
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Because none of us can really conceive, which is why when I've been talking about this this
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week, I've been saying, well, you're talking about babies going to hell for trillions of
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And I've had some people send me emails and say, well, you can't say hell is trillions
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But I'm just trying to put it in terms that we can sort of understand.
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Now, we can't understand a trillion years either.
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But at least a number is something that we can sort of wrap our head around.
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The point anyway, is that hell, we believe, is forever, never ends.
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So to say it's a trillion years is really a trillion years stacked up against eternity is
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A trillion years, you haven't even gotten started yet.
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So you're saying that God, a merciful, a perfectly merciful and loving being, might send babies.
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Might send a six-month-old baby who dies of a disease or is killed in a flood or a fire
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or something, may send that being who he created to eternal torment that never, ever, ever, ever ends.
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Worse, you're saying that they were selected, that that child, let's just put this, you know,
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Imagine a six-month-old child who dies, let's say, in a house fire.
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The child dies in agonizing pain and then goes to an eternity of agonizing pain
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And you're saying that the child was selected for that before birth.
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He never had any direct personal role in his own damnation.
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God selected him for hell and then made him and sent him to earth and then took his life
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almost immediately and cast him into an eternity of suffering.
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And you suggest that this could somehow be in keeping with a merciful and loving creator?
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But I think you know that it's not, which is why you even say it's terrible.
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But a loving creator doesn't do terrible things.
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You know, he could have just not made the baby in the first place.
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So he must choose to make this baby and he must choose to consign before birth, before he even has conceived the child, he consigns this child to an eternity of suffering.
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And there is zero chance of anything else happening.
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We talk about the creation of human life as this great miracle.
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I mean, in that case, he has made this creature to suffer.
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That's the only reason it exists and it will never have anything else.
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And I know you could say, well, you know, why would God make anyone who he knows is going to go to hell?
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Yeah, but it's entirely different if it's a person who's lived long enough to make some kind of choice.
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Someone who has had some sort of chance, who can play some sort of direct role in all of this.
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But a baby who has been preordained for hell and then taken from this world by disease or murder has no chance, no choice, nothing.
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And will be punished forever, forever, for a sin that he did not personally and consciously commit.
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Nothing exists without God's continual and active consent.
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So imagine that there is like in heaven right now, there is a Matt Walsh button.
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And God has his finger on the Matt Walsh button.
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And the moment that he releases his finger from that button, I cease to exist.
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But my point is that every moment that I exist is an active choice by God to keep me in existence.
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It is, let's say, an active effort by God to keep me in existence.
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That's what it means to be the sovereign power reigning over all of existence.
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Which means that those babies suffering forever in hell, God has to sustain them in existence so that they can continue to be tormented forever.
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So every moment of eternity, God has to make the active choice to keep those babies existing so that they can suffer forever.
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And you imagine that a loving and merciful God would do that.
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And I think you know that it doesn't make any sense.
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But you think that you have to be open to that possibility because of some doctrine.
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And what I'm saying is that if your doctrine flies in the face of everything we know about God and everything we've been told about Him,
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and your doctrine forces you to accept the possibility that God would do something evil,
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and I can't think of any other way to explain it,
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to design a child to suffer forever in hell and to preordain him to that fate.
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Again, if that is not evil, then I don't know what the word evil means.
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But it's been an interesting conversation this week to continually talk about this,
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And thanks for watching and listening, and I'll talk to you guys next week.
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