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The Matt Walsh Show
- February 18, 2019
Ep. 200 - The Media Beclowns Itself On Jussie Smollett Story
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, the left and the media, but I repeat myself, have embarrassed
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themselves yet again with this Jussie Smollett hate crime hoax story. But will they learn anything
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from this? Will there be any self-assessment on their part? No, of course not, but we'll talk
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about that. Also, I want to discuss why victimhood has become such a desirable status in modern
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America, so desirable that people will make up hate crimes just so they can be a victim.
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And finally, speaking of fake victimhood, we'll talk about Colin Kaepernick's multi-million
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dollar payout from the NFL. All of that today on the Matt Wall Show.
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Welcome to the Matt Wall Show, everybody. Thanks for being here. Thank you for tuning in. I hope
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you had a great weekend. And remember to subscribe on iTunes to get the entire show. You only get 15
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of the Daily Wire. All right, Smollett. Smollett, Smollett, Smollett, Smollett. Still haven't
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figured out how to pronounce the guy's last name. I guess I should have checked by now. Poor old
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Jussie Smollett might be in a bit of trouble. Let me get you caught up on the latest first in case
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you weren't paying attention over the weekend. And frankly, I hope that you were not paying
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attention over the weekend. I hope that you have a life and you do other things on the weekend besides
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check the news online. So the Empire actor, well, you're aware of this part. He claimed he was
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assaulted in a hate crime committed by two white Trump supporters at 2 a.m. Chicago in negative
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10 degree temperatures while he was walking back from Subway with a tuna sandwich. And he says he
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was beaten, put a noose was put around his neck, bleach was poured on him. They shouted, this is MAGA
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country in Chicago, called him racial and homophobic slurs and so on. So you know that part of the
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story. You also know, especially if you've been listening to this show, that the story is, of
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course, absurd and obviously a hoax. And you didn't even, you didn't really need any other
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information. You didn't need to know about the fact that, for instance, he's on camera for all but 60
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seconds of the, of his walk back from Subway. And there's no assault recorded in that, in that chunk
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of time. But you didn't need to know that to know that this is a fable. But now the picture is
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becoming more clear for anyone who didn't already see it clearly. Late last week, two men who appeared
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in the security camera footage, walking near because nobody else appears in the footage except for
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Smollett and then these two guys, who are seen walking near the site of the alleged attack.
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Well, these guys were apprehended. And then it turns out that they're Nigerians. Also friends
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of Smollett's. One of them is Smollett's physical trainer or workout partner or whoever. They know
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each other. One or both of them has appeared on the on the show Empire before. And they were questioned,
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were very briefly described as suspects. But then they were released unceremoniously and rather
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quickly. And law enforcement sources told the media that they, the brothers, confessed that the
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whole attack was, was staged. Smollett, according to these sources, paid these guys to attack him.
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It was all a setup. They paid the sources say it was 3,500 bucks that they were paid, which,
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you know, seems a little on the cheap side. If someone's going to pay you to attack them,
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I think, I mean, shouldn't that run at least 10,000? I would think. So it was all a setup.
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And now police want to interview Smollett again, as the investigation has shifted, they say,
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and it seems has shifted in the direction of Smollett himself. But he has, he's hired a defense
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attorney, which of course, when you're the true victim of a crime, isn't that what you do? Isn't
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that the first thing you go and do is you, you, you hire a defense attorney for yourself,
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but he has a defense attorney now, and he's been reluctant to speak with the police
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for, I guess, understandable reasons. Now, before we go any further, let's go back. I think it would
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be profitable for us to go back and look at how our illustrious news media, our courageous, brave,
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bold, uh, first amendment, protecting firefighting news media. Let's take a look at how they responded
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to this story. Let's remember, let's recall, because I know they want to shove it down the
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memory hole. They don't want us to remember, but let's remember how the media responded to this
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ridiculous story when Smollett first came out, uh, with, with his claims. So here's a brief
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compilation, uh, put together by Grabian, uh, Grabian, Grabian news, which gives us a little
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taste. Here it is beaten with a noose around his neck and hospitalized empire star, Jesse Smollett
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was the victim of a vicious racist and homophobic attack. His attackers hurled racial and homophobic
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slurs. Two people yelled racist and homophobic slurs, racial and homophobic slurs, not only homophobic,
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we're talking about racism, we're talking about hate with steroids. They are looking for two
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suspects who are apparently wearing make America great again hats. The offenders uttered, this is
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MAGA country. The hate crime went down early this morning in Chicago. Officials are investigating
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the alleged assault as a hate crime. And now police say they're investigating this as a possible
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hate crime. Anyone attacked in a hate crime like this is an outrage. This is, this is stomach turning,
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mind boggling information. It's out of control. Speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi, tweeting the
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racist homophobic attack on Jesse Smollett is an affront to our humanity. And Senator Cory Booker
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said the vicious attack on actor Jesse was an attempted modern day lynching. Kamala Harris calling
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the attack an attempted modern day lynching. I'm so shaken by the story. This is horrible to report.
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This is a horrible story. I like this is a horrible story. Yeah. I mean, the circumstances
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is horrific. Horrendous and unacceptable. Absolutely despicable. Yeah. A lot of people can't believe
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this is actually happening in 2019. It's hard to believe that we're reporting that we're even
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saying words like this in 2019. This is America in 2019. So you see, sometimes they, they bother to put
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alleged in front of the attack. Sometimes not. Uh, but what you find is, is just in general,
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uncritical reporting of this, uh, attack. There was, there was from the media, there was basically
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no skepticism. Now they're claiming that they were skeptical and we'll get to that in a minute, but
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there was basically no skepticism. So, so even, you know, I, I know that legally, uh, you can always
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cover yourself if you, if you just say alleged, right. But, uh, to uncritically report something
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like this, even if you put a legend in front of it, that's, that's, that's not good enough
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because this story, there was no evidence for it. It was obviously absurd. Um, and so when you're
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reporting it, that should be part of your report. You should really be emphasizing. Now I'm not saying
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that if you have a, look, if this guy's at least a D list celebrity, uh, he claims that this thing
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happened. So I'm not saying it's not news, but the news is that this is a really extraordinary
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claim that this guy is making. And there is no evidence for it. That that's the news. That's,
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that's what front and center. That's what you should be saying. And then if you really are,
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if you're a real journalist actually looking to get to the story, you should then be going out on your
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own to investigate this and, and look into it and do some real investigative journalism.
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Um, but the media didn't do that. Let's also not forget the celebrities who rushed to Smollett's
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side, taking him completely at his word, using this supposed attack to score political points.
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The best example of this or worst example, depending on how you look at it is, um, the actress Ellen
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Page who was, um, on Colbert show. And she found a way, if you remember a week or two ago, she found
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a way to pin this supposed hate crime on Mike Pence. She, she got to the bottom of it. Okay. She did
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investigate and she found out that it was Mike Pence is the one who did it. Um, or at least is,
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is responsible for surprise for, for, uh, uh, inspiring it. So here's, here's Ellen Page.
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I'm like really fired up tonight. This is how, this is how you have to be fired up. It feels
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impossible to not feel this way right now with the president and the vice president, Mike Pence,
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who like wishes I couldn't be married. Let's just be clear. The vice president of America wishes I
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didn't have the love with my wife. He wanted to ban that in Indiana. He believes in conversion therapy.
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He has hurt LGBTQ people so badly as the government of Indiana. And I think the thing we need to know,
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and I hope my show, Gaycation, did this in terms of connecting the dots, in terms of what happened
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the other day to Jesse. I don't know him personally. I saw, I sent all of my love.
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Connect the dots. This is what happens. If you are in a position of power and you hate people
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and you want to cause suffering to them, you go through the trouble, you spend your career
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trying to cause suffering. What do you think is going to happen?
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Kids are going to be abused and they're going to kill themselves and people are going to be beaten
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on the street.
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I have traveled the world and I have met the most marginalized people you could meet.
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I am lucky to have this time and the privilege to say this.
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This needs to stop.
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Okay.
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By the way, that's a really, Colbert's show is supposed to be a comedy show, right?
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A really hilarious segment there with Ellen Page. Great, great comedy.
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Okay. So what have we learned from all of this? Well, nothing, I guess. Whatever there is to learn
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from this situation, the rational among us already knew. And whoever did not know it probably is not
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capable intellectually of learning anything ever. But that fact aside, I think there are some major
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lessons. And so here are a few of them. Number one, and this is really important. There is nothing
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virtuous about simply believing a claim that somebody makes. So these days, whenever someone
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claims that they were the victim of sexual assault or hate crime or what have you, and they come forward
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with their story, people, especially on the left, will solemnly declare, I believe you. I believe it.
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Yes, I believe. As if believing someone is some sort of moral obligation. Like it's some sort of moral
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act to believe a story that somebody is telling you. But it isn't. To believe someone is to think
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that what they're saying is true, right? That's what it means to believe someone. Somebody tells you
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something. Someone comes and says, oh, it's raining outside. Either believe them or I don't. And if I
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believe them, it means that I believe that it's raining outside. That the information they're
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conveying to me is true. That's what it means to believe someone, right? To believe that what
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they're saying is factually correct. Not just morally correct, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, but factually
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correct. And we should believe that something is factually correct if there is good objective
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reason to believe it, such as evidence, such as the general believability of whatever they're saying.
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Okay? Then we can believe them. So if somebody comes to me and says, it's raining outside,
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and I know them to be a generally trustworthy person, then in that case, that's probably going
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to be enough for me to believe them because the claim that it's raining outside is not especially
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incredible. So if a halfway credible person comes up to me and tells me that, I'll probably believe
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them because it rains all the time. So it's a perfectly believable story. However, if somebody
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comes to me and says, I was just assaulted at 2 a.m. on my way back from Subway by two guys in Chicago
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yelling, this is MAGA country, two guys who happen to have a bottle of bleach and a noose on hand,
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if somebody comes to me and tells me that, I'm going to need some more evidence. I'm going to need
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a really good reason to believe that because that is an extraordinary claim. That's a,
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that's a claim that just seems to defy common sense for a whole bunch of reasons.
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So if there's no good reason to believe what someone is saying,
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then, well, if there's no good reason to believe it, and there's no good reason to disbelieve it
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either, then we should be neutral on it. We shouldn't believe it or disbelieve it. It should just be,
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it should be something we're just waiting for more information. But if there's good reason to
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disbelieve it, then we should disbelieve it. So if it's an extraordinary claim and there's no evidence
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for it whatsoever, then that's, that's a good reason to disbelieve it. That is a good reason
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to actively believe that what they're saying is not true. Although of course it's, it's a tentative
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judgment because they could produce evidence and then you'll change your assessment.
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But either way, this is the process for believing something. So this whole thing, it's, it's sort
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of an offshoot of, Oh, I believe women believe women. Well, no, I, why should we believe women?
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I don't believe women. I don't disbelieve women. I don't, it's, it's, it's, it's got the fact that
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women has nothing to do with it. I believe a woman, if she tells me, if she, if she makes a claim that is
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believable, I believe believable things that women tell me. And I disbelieve unbelievable things that
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women tell me. Same for men. It makes no difference to me whatsoever, what their gender is when they're
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telling me the story. It also makes no difference to me, what race they are. Second thing. And you
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know, this, this is one of the major, one of the major takeaways. We talked about this last week,
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but it, it, it, it, it needs to be emphasized again that this is what happens when victimhood
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is celebrated. We look, we live in a country, in a culture where it is considered desirable to be a
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victim. And so when, when, when you create an environment like that, you're going to have
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people inventing victimhood stories. I mean, it's just going to happen. There's no way around it now.
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You know, consider the fact that there was a time in America, not that long ago,
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when a man, a man would never pretend that he was beaten and defiled in the street.
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You know, there was a time in America when a man would never pretend that because he would be
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embarrassed. He would be humiliated by such a story. A man would have too much pride to go around
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inventing a story about how he was beat up. And I can, I mean, I remember when I was a kid,
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it just, it, you would never, as a, as a kid in school, you would never pretend that you were beat
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up. If anything, it would go the other way, where if you were actually beat up, you would pretend you
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weren't because you have pride as a man and you don't want people to think that you were beat up.
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So, um, when I was a kid, it, you know, I got into fights a few times. If I was going to, to lie
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about it, I would lie in the other direction. I would try to make myself look better. I would try
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to make it seem less like I got beat up or like I lost the fight. I would try to, you know, that's,
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that's where the exaggeration would come on the other end of it to make me look like less of a
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victim. And that's, that's how it should be for men. And now you shouldn't lie either way. You
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shouldn't exaggerate. But, uh, I think as men, if you're going to lie about something like that,
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it's much more natural and makes much more sense. And it's, and I would even say as much healthier
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to lie in the other direction, to make yourself seem like less of a victim. Um, so you know what,
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it would make more, I still wouldn't believe it, but it would make more sense to me. I could
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understand it more. If Jussie Smollett had made up a story about how he was walking down the street
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at 2am and two, um, and two MAGA ninjas with MAGA hats jumped, you know, from a rooftop and with
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nunchucks and tried to, uh, and tried to assault him, but he, you know, he dropped kicked them and
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did some Kung Fu moves and they all ran away right now. If Smollett had told that story, now that would
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be as believable as the story he did tell, but that would be a better story to make up because number
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one, it's more entertaining. And number two, I, at least I understand that you're trying to make
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yourself seem like a tough guy. And so you're trying to get that sort of attention where the
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attention where people think that you're tough and strong and all of that. So at least there's,
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I can sort of understand the motivation, but to make up a story that you were beat up, I, it just,
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not that there's anything shameful. I mean, people, people are jumped and beat up all the time. And
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you, you, you shouldn't feel like you have to lie about that and you shouldn't. And I'm not saying
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that there's, there is anything shameful about, uh, about actually being a victim. I'm just saying
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that as men, I think the more natural masculine instinct is to not want to be a victim.
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Even when you are a victim to wish that you weren't and to not want to go around telling everybody about
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it, but we have, uh, we, we've just completely flipped things on their head now where that is
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gone now, you know, and, and now people, they, they see the status symbol, not as being a tough guy,
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not as being a guy who wins the fight. Uh, now the status symbol is just being a put upon degraded,
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uh, victim. Third thing that we find from all this is that the left, which again, like I said,
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these are lessons that we already knew. So not really lessons, but the left has an utterly cartoonish
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idea of, of, um, of white men. I mean, just think about the last few months. Um, we, we start with
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Kavanaugh and the media and the left told us and believed that Kavanaugh as a teenage boy was a part
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of some sort of roving rape gang. And then we have the Covington Catholic student, uh, debacle where
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we're told that these, that these teenage boys just randomly, a whole massive horde of them just
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randomly for no reason accosted, uh, a native American, an elderly native American gentleman
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who was just there playing his, his drums peacefully. And then we're told about the two
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white guys prowling the streets of Chicago and so on. All of these stories are, as I said,
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unbelievable, but the reason why people on the left believe them is because they have such a
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cartoonish, exaggerated, demeaning, insulting, um, idea of white men. This is how they see white men.
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Smollett, he made up this story and he thought it was believable because this is how he sees white
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people or, or especially, or I should say, this is how he sees white conservative men.
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And so when he was inventing the story, he thought, yeah, well, this is totally,
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this is what they do, right? This is how they are.
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And then related to this, the fourth thing, the media just cannot stop, uh, beclowning itself.
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Journalists made fools of themselves again with this case, but don't for a minute think that
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there's going to be any accountability. Okay. There's not going to be any honest self-assessment.
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So don't, don't imagine that. In fact, if you want to know how the media is going to rationalize
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its behavior on this story, um, well, we're already seeing, we're already seeing what they're,
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what they're doing with it. So let's, let's look at this segment from, um, Brian Stelter show
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on CNN. And this is right. Now we're getting an idea of, of the media after being embarrassed on this,
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this gives us an idea of, of how they're going to kind of get around it. So watch this.
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The narrative was set so early on that January day, because TMZ first heard about this alleged
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attack. TMZ was the first to say they heard the MAGA country quote. It came from a source close to
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Jussie. So immediately this was a political fight, right? Immediately there were political stakes to
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this story. Uh, Liz, do you think that, that distorted it? Right. I mean, the, the MAGA, uh, quote,
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I remember reading about this story and looking for a real, uh, reputable media outlet reporting on that.
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And I could not find one, right? The people who were repeating that quote were not news outlets,
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were not media outlets. It was repeated by sure people who maybe had good intentions of wanting
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to spread this story and had empathy for what they thought was, you know, a real story, but we can't
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confuse celebrity tweets with the media and the press. And you know, so you're saying actors and
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activists who were rushing to his side because they're friends with him and they support him and
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they're concerned about a possible hate crime are not the same as Chicago reporters who were trying to
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find out what happened. Exactly. And okay. See, see, it wasn't the media. No, the media didn't do
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anything wrong. The media, it's not their fault. It was, uh, you know, it was celebrities. It was
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people on Twitter. No, the media didn't do it. And I should say something that look from what I've
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seen just online, local media in Chicago, they have been pretty good on very good on this story.
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Actually, they've been on top of it. Um, it seems, it seemed to me that they were skeptical from the
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start. They've been trying to get to the bottom of it, really investigating the story, getting,
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getting new information out there. So local media in Chicago has been good, but national media can't
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take credit for that. Okay. That's got nothing to do with CNN. The national media disgraced itself
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as usual. You know, Trump yesterday was, went on Twitter and he tweeted a familiar slogan with him.
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He said, um, the rigged and corrupt media is the enemy of the people in all caps. And he said this
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kind of thing a million times, but once again, journalists on Twitter, um, took this tweet and
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they, they very somberly pointed to this to show how there's a war on the press and on the first
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amendment and they are victims and so on. And, uh, we need to appreciate them more because this,
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this is, this is what they have to deal with. They're being persecuted. Well, here's, here's my
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suggestion for, for those in the media, for, for so-called journalists in the so-called news media,
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rather than whining and feeling sorry for yourself when Trump calls you enemy of the people or fake news
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or corrupt or whatever, rather than whining and feeling sorry for yourself, maybe you folks in the news
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media should stop and consider why so many Americans agree wholeheartedly with Donald Trump.
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Why is it that so many people think that you really are the enemy and that you are corrupt and you are fake
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and rigged. Okay. You can go pout in the corner and stomp your feet and say, this isn't fair. We do it,
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you know, pat yourselves on the back and Hollywood can make another movie celebrating the courage and
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heroism of journalists. That's fine. Or you could actually stop and assess and look in the mirror
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and say, how have we gotten to the point where so many people in this country hate us? Why does
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everyone hate us so much? It could be that all the people who hate you are just awful and horrible. And
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maybe that's it. Or maybe it's because you have earned this contempt over decades and decades.
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Do you ever consider that maybe people are just sick of the propaganda and the slanted way that you
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present every story and how you hop on any opportunity to make certain people look bad?
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Do you ever think people are maybe just tired of that?
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Oh, no, that can't be it. No, no, no. Everyone is wrong. You're right. Everyone else is wrong.
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By the way, one other thing to mention on this before I move on. I think it just it has to be
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emphasized, not that this is even the main point, but this is this has got to be the dumbest race hoax
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in history by by Smollett. Just think about if you're if you're going to do this, which I don't
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know why you would why I do know why he did it, as we've talked about, because victimhood is is
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profitable. But if you're if you're going to do it, and you're going to put all this thought into it,
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to the point of allegedly, apparently, paying people off and it just seems like, man,
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you made a lot of really of really dumb mistakes. And the first mistake was to involve other people
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in it. So if you're going to make up a story about getting beat up in a hate crime, it's better to
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just invent the culprits out of thin air, just invent imaginary people. Don't actually enlist real
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people in the the the plot with you. Because when you do that, and and eventually they're found.
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And eventually they flip on you, which they will now there's going to be positive evidence that you
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lied. Whereas if the people just didn't exist, then there'd be no one for the police to find and
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question and flip. And then of course, the other big mistake was involving the police in the first
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place. See, here's the thing. Police are very good at detecting lies. Okay, police have very finely
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tuned BS detectors. This is what they do. Especially when you're dealing with detectives, they detect this
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is what they deal with liars every single day. This is what they do for a living. I guarantee you
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that the police within five seconds, they knew that this was made up. I guarantee within five seconds,
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they knew it. Of course, they started to go through the process and do everything and investigate. And
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I'm sure they did all of that exactly as they should. But just their gut instinct dealing with
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pathological liars every day, I guarantee they knew right away. So if you're going to make up a hate
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crime, just do everything you can to avoid involving the police. Once you do that, it's over because
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they're, they're, they're, they're not going to fall for it. Um, and then if you make really rookie
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mistakes, like hanging onto your sandwich the whole time, uh, it's just, you stand no chance.
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All right. One other, uh, let's see here. What else I want to mention? Um, Colin Kaepernick. Okay.
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Colin Kaepernick had this collusion case that he was against the NFL, alleging that the NFL had
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colluded to, uh, bar him from the league so that no teams would, uh, would, would hire him or bring
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them on their squads. And he finally settled that case with the NFL. And I don't want to spend a lot
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of time on this. I just want to mention that the reports indicate that his settlement with the NFL
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was in the 60 to $80 million range. So apparently he made between 60 and $80 million from the NFL.
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And you add that to the Nike contract that he got, which was, I don't know how much that was tens of
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millions of dollars. He's getting paid by Nike. I mean, being this kind of relates back to what we
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talked about to begin with being a victim really pays in America. So you could tell why Smollett made
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this up because victimhood literally pays. Colin Kaepernick is put forward as some sort of martyr
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for some kind of great cause. Well, martyrdom has never been such a cushy gig. Has it
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being a martyr now pays you tens of millions of dollars, not to mention all the fame and, and,
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and, uh, and admiration, uh, that comes with it. It's just martyrdom ain't what it used to be,
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I guess is the point. All right. Let's, uh, let's get to some of your emails before we wrap up here.
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You can email the show, Matt Walsh show at gmail.com. This is from Joshua. He says,
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hi, Matt. A couple of days ago, you touched on the theory of alien life existing out in the universe.
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And that left me with a couple of questions on how aliens fit into God's plan for the universe.
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If God did create aliens, do you think he placed us so far apart? Uh, so we don't interfere with each
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other's histories and that we are never meant to find them in the first place. Also, is it possible
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that they could have their own interpretation of the Trinity Bible and Christianity? Hi, Joshua.
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Yeah. I've also, I've often thought the same thing. We talked about aliens on Friday. One of my
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favorite subjects. Um, maybe the vast distances are there for a reason because there's, there's just,
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we're not supposed to ever make contact. As for your second point, I certainly think that a race of
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hypothetical aliens could well have their own scripture. It must have their own sort of scripture.
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And it's likely they have nothing called Christianity. Um, as we know it, although if
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they are rational creatures and God has revealed himself to them, then they can't have their own
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Trinity. Uh, the Trinity is the Trinity is the Trinity anywhere in the cosmos, anywhere in reality that
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you go, but thank you for the email. Uh, let's see here from Lance. He says, Matt, in regards to your
00:31:49.560
discussion about aliens today, have you heard of Fermi's paradox? How does that weigh on your point?
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Hi, Lance. Yes. The, uh, the Fermi paradox says that there are, there are trillions of stars out
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there. Um, many of them billions of years older than the sun, which means that if there are other
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worlds in the universe, other planets with, with intelligent, rational life, then some of those
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civilizations should be billions of years ahead of us. And thus we should have already received a
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visit from, from some of them. Um, the fact that we haven't maybe indicates that we're alone in the
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universe after all. Well, that is an interesting theory, but I have a couple of responses to that.
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Number one, who says that we haven't been visited, man? Haven't you ever seen that show? Ancient
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aliens. Okay. Aliens have been here. Aliens have done everything. They've built the pyramids. They
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have done, they've done everything. Um, according to that show, aliens were the primary architects
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on earth for the first, like 10,000 years of human civilization. So that's number one. Number two,
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um, more seriously, keep in mind the distances that we're talking about here. Okay. There are 5 trillion
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miles in a light year. The nearest star to ours is four light years away. So that's 20 trillion miles.
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The nearest galaxy to the Milky way is the Andromeda galaxy. And it is 2 million light years away from
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earth. So 2 million times 4 trillion miles. That's how far away it is. My point is that
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even if life is exceedingly rare in the universe, even so rare that there's only one life bearing
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planet per galaxy, let's say, let's say that life is that rare where you have basically one light, one
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planet with intelligent life per galaxy. Well, that would be very, very rare, but that would still mean
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that there are a hundred billion planets with intelligent life because there are a hundred billion
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galaxies, but the distances between them would be so vast. I mean, 2 million light years. That means
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that even if you were going at the speed of light, which as far as we know is impossible, but even
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if we could do the impossible and go the speed of light, it would take 2 million years to get to the
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next galaxy. And there's no way that you would survive on a spaceship for 2 million years, even if it was
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some sort of generational spaceship, um, where you had whole civil, entire civilization living on a
00:34:18.960
spaceship, going to some distant galaxy. Well, still 2 million years is a long time to survive in those
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quarters. So it could just be, uh, it could just be that, that the distant, it's just impossible that
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there's, there is no technology that exists or could ever exist anywhere in the universe that could
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traverse those distances. It's possible. Um, let's see, I heard a bunch of other emails, but I'm running
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out of time. So let me, I had an email from Grace, um, which with a really interesting question. She says,
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Hi, Matt, I've been wanting to know your opinion about something. Um, sometimes I will hear Christian
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apologists argue the case for Christianity on the basis of near death experiences. They point to all the stories
00:35:10.660
of people being medically dead and then experiencing a vision of Christ or of heaven. Do you think this
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is an effective argument? What is your position on NDEs of near death experiences? Grace? I think
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it's a very good question and something that really interests me a lot. And I've read a lot about it.
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So what I'm going to do, this is going to be a teaser. I'm going to save that question for tomorrow's
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show because I'm running out of time and I want to give myself plenty of time to get into that.
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Um, so we'll hope I'm going to hold that thought and you'll have to tune in tomorrow for the answer.
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Nice little tease there. Cliffhanger ending. So we'll leave it there. Um, thanks everybody for
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watching. Godspeed.
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