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The Matt Walsh Show
- March 05, 2019
Ep. 211 - Environmentalists Don’t Even Take Themselves Seriously
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, does it matter that environmental activists are often complete
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hypocrites who don't take their own doomsday proclamations seriously? Yes, I think it does
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matter, and I'll explain why. Also, there's a new word for narcissism. It's autosexual is the word.
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We'll talk about that. And finally, we will discuss how the left's theory of gender fluidity
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undermines so many of their other positions. And oh, and also, I got a bunch of really angry
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emails from Michael Jackson fans, and I'll respond to some of those today as well on the Matt Wall
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Show. Well, this is a huge blow to the Republican Party, guys. A huge blow. Hillary Clinton has
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announced that she is not running for president in 2020. Absolute tragedy. I'm thinking of starting
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a petition to urge her to get into the race, maybe a GoFundMe or something like that. We need her in
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the race. There's still time, but we need her to jump in. It would be hugely unfortunate if she
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doesn't run for president. On a better note, though, a group of environmental activists are
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staging what they call a birth strike. They've taken a pledge to refrain from having kids until climate
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change stops. You're not going to have any kids until there's no more. Until the climate stops changing,
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until it's a steady, you know, 70 degrees and sunny everywhere on the planet forever,
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they're not going to have any kids. Blythe Papino is one of the, one of the invite, just sounds like
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the name of an environmental activist who would do something like this, doesn't it? For some reason.
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Uh, Blythe Papino says that she told BBC news, she says the natural world is collapsing around us
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and that's actually happening right now. And so I'm so disappointed by the response by our
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authorities to this crisis and so freaked out by it. Everything I've read that I've, I've basically
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last year, I came to the decision that I couldn't bring a child into that. Now I want to say that I
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am fully in favor of their plan. Um, in favor of it for them, for them, that is not for me, uh, or for,
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you know, rational people, but for them, I'm fully in favor of it. Although it does make me
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suspicious that they're talking about a birth strike, uh, and not necessarily a conception
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strike. So as long as this is, we're not going to have kids because we're not going to conceive them,
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then I think for them, that's a great idea. Uh, if, if it's, we're not going to have kids because
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we're going to kill them in the womb, then I think that it's of course, horrible, but you know,
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this is, this is precisely my problem with climate alarmists usually is that they don't have the
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follow through. Now these, this collection of, uh, of people, they have some follow through.
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They're going to make some actual changes. Yeah. It's, it's kind of nutty, but they are going to make
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some changes, uh, to, to their life and, and, and, uh, they're going to follow through on that.
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But usually I find that climate alarmists, especially the prominent famous ones don't
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have any kind of follow through at all. They make these dramatic declarations about, about the end of
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the world, but then they provide very little evidence through their actions that they actually
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believe anything that they're saying. So exhibit A, um, would be AOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
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According to the New York post is leaving an enormously large carbon footprint herself,
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even as she warns that the world is coming to an end because of our, uh, collective carbon
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footprint. So reading a little bit from the post report, it says since declaring her candidacy in
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May, 2017, Ocasio-Cortez's campaign heavily relied on those combustion engine cars, even though a
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subway station was just 138 feet from her, uh, campaign office. She listed 1,049 transactions
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for Uber, Lyft, Juno, and other car services, federal filing show. This is, this is, I mean,
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think of how much she's contributed to the end of the world by, with those 1,049 transactions. Think
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about how many polar bears this woman has drowned, um, by, by these, these Uber, uh, rides. I mean,
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just, just think about it. Think of all the, all the penguins that are, that are drowning as well.
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The campaign had 505 Uber expenses alone and all Ocasio-Cortez's, Ocasio-Cortez spent $29,365.70
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on those emissions spewing vehicles, along with cars and van rentals, even though her queen's
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headquarter was a one minute walk to the seven train. The campaign shelled out only $8,335.41
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on 52 MetroCard transactions. Um, the, uh, article goes on, her campaign embraced the friendly skies,
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logging 66 airline transactions, costing over $25,000 during the campaign season. Uh, I mean,
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just one of those trips on an airplane probably murdered 47 polar bears, just one of them.
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Um, now you multiply that by six. She just wiped out probably half of the polar bear population.
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Um, the democratic firebrand or her staff took Amtrak far less, only 18 times. Uh, most of the
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flights came after her primary win. It talks about more, uh, you know, times when she was taking SUVs
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and so on. And then it does get a little bit, it gets a little, you know, a little too, uh, strict.
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I think later on in the article says in a February 24, 24th, Instagram video filmed in her kitchen,
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Ocasio-Cortez railed against plastic grocery bags, then appeared to toss two of the sacks,
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which can be recycled into the trash. It drives me crazy. She said a plastic bags. I wish they didn't
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exist. In the video, Ocasio-Cortez peeled a sweet potato while calling for a universal sense of
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urgency to save the earth. But she discarded the vegetable scraps into the same receptacle
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that she just used for the plastic bags, rather than setting the food waste aside for the compost.
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Um, you know, that, well, no, that's, that's a legitimate criticism too, because look,
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if you, if you think the world is coming to an end because of this stuff, wouldn't you be making
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dramatic changes in your own life? Now, AOC has dismissed these criticisms. She's tried to make
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a joke out of them, but there is something really important here. And it's important because it's part
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of a larger pattern. And that larger pattern is big name climate activists that, um, appear to show
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no personal urgency about the issue themselves. Climate warriors who by their own actions do not
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seem to mean what they say. And this I think is relevant and, and, and, uh, and important to notice
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and discuss. It would be one thing if all of these planeteers, Cortez and Gore and all the rest of
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them were out in the woods doing this. I want to mourn the loss of all the old growth trees I've seen
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and tell them that we love them and that we don't want them to die, that there are some people here
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who do care. So I want you to know that trees, that we care. I think we are deeply hurting in America. I
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think we are deeply craving answers. I think that we've lost our identity as we have evolved into
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technology and into industrialized society. Bring me to this cathedral. Bring me to those guys.
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Bring me to this rock that has the most incredible life. That makes me feel alive.
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I've looked at clear cuts and burnt forest and I felt outraged, but I didn't scream and I didn't cry
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and I need to.
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Okay. See now those people mean it. That's, and that's what I expect to see Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez doing.
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And if she was out there doing that, I would say, look, she, she, I think she's mentally unstable,
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but she, she means what she says at least. And I can respect that. But most environmental activists
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aren't doing that. And I find that suspicious. So here's what it comes down to. If you're an
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environmental activist, um, you tell us that we could be looking at an extinction level event
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in just a generation or two, our planet is going to turn into Venus sooner rather than later, right?
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That's what you say. If we don't drastically change the way that we live, um, major cities
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are going to be lost in the ocean. In fact, according to Al Gore, a few decades ago, or,
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you know, a decade and a half ago, New York city was supposed to already be under the ocean.
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And frankly, maybe it is. I haven't been to New York in a long time. As far as I know,
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it's a water world up there already. So, uh, that's what Al Gore said anyway.
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So the, the world is already collapsing all around us. Um, and that's what you told us.
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You said that there's going to be mass starvation. There's going to be, uh, you know, famine and,
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and, and all of this stuff. Um, even now, whenever there's a hurricane or tornado or a thunderstorm,
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or even just a snow storm, you tell us that it's a direct result of global warming,
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um, which itself is a direct result of our modern lifestyle. Now you think, again,
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if you're an environmental activist, uh, you think that when there's a hurricane and people are dying,
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that that hurricane was caused by, um, the fact that we drive cars and fly airplanes,
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nevermind the fact that hurricanes have been happening on the earth for billions of years,
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but, but, uh, uh, you know, they were happening long before humans ever existed,
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but then humans came into existence and all of a sudden it's our fault, right? But that's what you
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believe. And if you believe that something that we're doing is causing a hurricane, shouldn't you
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stop doing that thing? I, I, if, if there was something that I did that I really thought might cause
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a hurricane, I would never do that thing again. Um, now look, I think it's true that some
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environmentalists do make some sacrifices. Um, maybe you do recycle. Apparently Cortez doesn't
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even do that much, but maybe you do. Um, maybe you ordered a salad at Panera bread for lunch today.
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Um, but for the most part, it seems like you're just another homo sapien murdering the planet and
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cannibalizing the future of our children. But, but how could you do that? You think the world is
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ending for God's sake. What are you doing? Just sitting around and living like the rest of us,
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, her excuses was, um, the excuse that she offered was, well, I'm, I'm just
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living in the world. You know, I'm, I'm in the world too. And so I've got to do what the world is
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doing. Well, no, you don't, you could sacrifice these things. You could say, I'm never going to take
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an Uber again. I'm never going to get in an airplane. Yes. It would be a huge sacrifice.
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It would call, it would make things more difficult for you. But wouldn't you do that? Listen, if I
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actually believed that in the extinction of all mankind was imminent and that my lifestyle was
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directly contributing to it at a minimum, I would never drive a car again, ever at all. I would never
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do it at a minimum. Um, and I would ditch electricity too. I wouldn't eat meat of any kind.
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Um, I wouldn't buy mass made consumer products. I wouldn't give my money to companies that, um,
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that sell items that were made in factories with big giant smokestacks because those smokestacks are
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literally killing people, according to you. And if I believe the same thing, I wouldn't do that.
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How could I, I mean, how could I continue on as normal? Um, what kind of monster would I have to
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be? Basically, if I were you, I would live like Mowgli in the jungle. I would befriend, uh, a group of
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wolves and I would just, and I would just live, live in the jungle. That's, that's what I would do
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because lives are at stake. If I believed what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez believed, then I would have to come to
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the conclusion that it is objectively immoral to, to ride in a car. Uh, because there'd be, there's
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just no, if this is contributing to the end of the world within 12 years, there is no way to justify
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ever doing it ever. So look at the Amish. Um, you know, the Amish are riding around in, in, in horses and,
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and, uh, and they're living without electricity and they're not doing that because they think that
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the world's going to come to an end because of climate change. But they, but the fact is they
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are doing it. They are living that way. It is possible to live that way.
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And so if you really believe this, why aren't you living that way? It just doesn't make any sense.
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You can't tell me that the world is coming to an end and then go about your day. Like nothing is
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wrong. That's a dead giveaway. You see that you don't really believe what you're saying.
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And then here's the question. If I look around and I notice that the prominent mouthpieces of this
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movement, and in fact, almost everybody in the movement doesn't really believe that the story
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that they're telling, then why should I believe it? Now their hypocrisy doesn't prove that they're
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wrong. Uh, so that's an important point. Just because someone's a hypocrite doesn't mean that what
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they're saying is wrong. And in fact, I should also stipulate that just because someone says
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something and then does another thing that doesn't even necessarily prove that they don't, that they
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don't believe what they just said. So if somebody says it's wrong to steal and then they go and they
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steal, um, that certainly doesn't prove that stealing isn't wrong. And it also doesn't mean
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that they don't believe that stealing is wrong. It could be that they really believe stealing is
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wrong and they're doing what they believe is wrong. Uh, which people do all the time, right?
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That's the essence of evil, you know, is, is, is, uh, is doing what, what you know to be wrong.
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So that doesn't necessarily prove anything. But if you look at a particular movement and you see
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that almost everybody involved in the movement and, and pretty much all of the, uh, people at the
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head of that movement, that they all seem to be demonstrating this hypocrisy, then that starts to
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make you suspicious. And for me, if I've already independently come to the conclusion that you're
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wrong about what you're saying. So I already don't agree with you. Even if you lived by what you were
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saying, I still wouldn't agree. But if I've, if I've come to that conclusion and then I look and I
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see that it seems as though you don't even agree with what you're saying, then what, then what are we
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even talking about? What's the point of the conversation at that point? Um, so I guess
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if you're an environmentalist, go and make some drastic changes to the way that you live,
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uh, which you are morally obligated. I'm not morally obligated because I don't believe that.
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If you think that this is ushering in the end of the world, you are morally obligated,
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not me, you. So you have to make those changes. And if enough of you do that, then maybe the rest of
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us will consider possibly taking you seriously, but until then we won't. All right. There's, um,
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an article, let's see here. There was an article from the Metro, um, that was making the rounds
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online yesterday. I want to tell you about it just because, uh, there's, there's one point I want to
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make. Let me see if I can pull this up. All right. The, the, uh, headline of the article
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is what's it like being auto sexual when you're attracted to yourself?
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It says sexuality is fluid as with lots of things that can evolve and boomerang over time,
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though. So often, uh, thought about in binary terms, just as with gender,
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there are many different sexualities people identify as auto sexuality is one such identification
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that is seldom talked about. It's the idea of being sexually attracted to yourself.
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And you can also come, uh, and can also come with being auto romantic, experiencing the relationship
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with yourself as romantic. It can mean being, uh, being, uh, anyway, I won't get, this gets a little
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bit more graphic than I want to be. The point is that there's this, apparently there's this thing
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called auto sexuality where people are excited, uh, by their own reflections and by themselves.
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And so they fall in love with themselves. There's a woman, I think it's a woman,
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Gia Vital or Vitaly is auto sexual and auto romantic. Okay. So auto sexual and auto romantic,
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apparently two different things. Okay. Um, and she got engaged to marry herself after proposing to
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herself in March of 2017. And now here's, when you, when you hear that description, of course,
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the first thing you think is, well, that's just narcissism, right? That's, that's you. So you're
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just a narcissist. You're in love with yourself. That's what narcissism is. And that's true, right?
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That's just, that's all that is. It's narcissism. So there's nothing new or innovative going on here,
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but this is what happens in our culture now, right? We take these, we take these, this is just the
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latest example. We take these age old human flaws or sins or perversions or whatever, and we dress
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them up and we give them a new name and, and, and suddenly it becomes a community. It becomes a
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movement. It becomes a heroic method of self-expression when really it's not any of that, is it? It's,
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it's something very simple, very old, very worn out, very small and uninteresting and degrading.
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But especially with my generation, we think we've, we keep rediscovering all of these flaws and
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thinking that we've found something new and it's some new mode of self-expression when it really is
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not at all. Uh, and what you find is that really you can get someone to accept and celebrate literally
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any personality trait at all, even really horrible ones like narcissism. You can get people to accept
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them and celebrate them. If you just give that trait a new kind of vaguely medical sounding name,
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and then you put the people with that trait in contact with each other. Um, and so that they
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can, you know, all get together and talk to each other. So for example, you could easily make people
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proud to be liars. If you just started, if, if, if you came up with a new word, instead of calling
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them liars, instead of calling them pathological liars, let's say you called them, uh, sycophantums.
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Now, sycophantum is just the word trickster in Latin. That's all that is. But instead of calling
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them pathological liars, let's call them sycophantums. And then if you started like an online
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forum for all of these people to get together and commune and tell lies to each other, uh, the,
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you know, the sycophantum forum, suddenly, although they're all just a bunch of filthy liars,
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now they become the sycophantum community and everything changes because you got them together
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with each other. You gave them a new name and now they're a community and now they can,
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and now they can discover that. Oh, you know, I thought there was something wrong with me
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because I couldn't stop lying. But then I discovered this community and I realized that there's nothing
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wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with it because other people do it. And once I discovered that other
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people do it too, and we could encourage each other, then that means it's okay. Not only is
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it okay, but we should be accepted. We are a new type of person. Uh, so we see this process playing
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out over and over again. It's an interesting cultural phenomenon. Speaking of, before we get
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to emails, uh, speaking of weird stuff, I wanted to mention this briefly as well. According to, um,
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the mirror, uh, online publication, uh, tie and Anaya are their names. They were a lesbian couple,
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but then one of them became a man. And, uh, now they are husband and wife in a heterosexual
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relationship. This is according to an article that also was, uh, going viral online yesterday.
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The actual headline says married lesbian couple are now husband and wife after one became a man.
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Which of course that's like saying, uh, man and his ham sandwich are now a football team after one
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of them became the 86 bears. In other words, it's nonsense. It's total nonsense. It doesn't mean
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anything. Of course, the woman did not become a man, uh, and can never become a man because that's
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not possible. So they are still just two women in a lesbian relationship. That's all that is. Um,
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it's just what, what actually happened is that one of the women, uh, put on jeans and a t-shirt and cut
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her hair. That's, that's really what happened. That was her transformation into a man. But here's,
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here's the main point. And I've talked about this many times. Um, you see how the left's
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ideology of gender, this gender fluidity stuff has created so many internal contradictions.
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And it has undermined, um, so many of their other positions. It's really incredible to watch.
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So plenty of, we've, we've discussed in the past what this has done to the feminist movement,
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where the feminist movement is all about drawing this distinction between men and women and saying
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that if, if you're a man, you're not allowed to have an opinion about this. You're not allowed to
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be involved in this or that discussion, uh, and so on and so forth. But then when you make
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gender fluid and so that a man can actually be a woman, it starts to undermine all of that. So we
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know about that, but there's another huge contradiction here that you see with this story. Um, we were told
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by the left for, um, for many years that sexual orientation is ingrained, um, genetic even,
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and it cannot be changed, right? Am I crazy? Or have I not been, been told this over and over again
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for years? Isn't this something that we've been told you cannot change sexual orientation. And that's
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why, uh, these gay conversion therapies and all that, that's all considered to be horrible,
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disgusting, awful, homophobic, because it's not possible. You can't, you're, you're trying to
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change something about someone that cannot be changed. Something that is something that is so
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deeply ingrained, uh, and integral and immutable, right? Well, but hold on. If sexual orientation cannot
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be changed, and then a lesbian woman becomes a man and is still attracted to her, uh, female lover,
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well, so now you're telling us that that just, that just changed from a lesbian relationship into a
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heterosexual relationship. There was a change there. So that individual used to be a lesbian
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and is now a heterosexual. That's what you're telling us. So that means that sexual orientation
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can change. It can either change or it can't. And the thing is, if it can't change, then certainly
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your sex or your gender can't change. Because if that changes, then your orientation changes.
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So which is it? And not to mention just the, the, the blatant absurdity of this idea that your sexual
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orientation could be ingrained and biological, but your sex is not. That simply makes no sense.
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And as I said, it creates logical contradictions.
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This couple, lesbian couple, uh, they were a lesbian couple before, weren't they?
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Now they're man and wife, according to you. That's heterosexual. That is a different orientation.
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So it just changed, which means it can change, which means that you have to give up that, uh,
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that particular line. You can't keep saying that. Or you can, but you're contradicting yourself.
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All right. Let's go to emails. A few good ones. I wanted to, I wanted to address, um,
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mattwalshowatgmail.com is the email. I was trying to remember my email. It's, it's pretty easy email,
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email address. I don't know how I can forget it. Mattwalshowatgmail.com is the email address.
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This is from, uh, this is also from a, a Matt. It says, hello, divine dictator Walsh.
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I really didn't write this. That is how they address, which finally someone uses my correct title,
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by the way, I'm tired of being misgendered, uh, says with Lent coming up, uh, upon us Catholics,
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what will you be giving up for Lent? Also for those that are unsure, what are useful things for
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the soul to give up, uh, keep up the good work? Well, I believe, uh, pretty strongly that we
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shouldn't advertise what we're giving up for Lent. As Jesus says in scripture, when you, when you fast,
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do it privately, don't be a hypocrite going around announcing it. But I will say that I think a good
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Lenten sacrifice is anything, anything that you'll feel, right? And it's the same thing with
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charity. When giving the charity, you're supposed to give until it hurts. If you're giving, if what
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you're giving to charity, you hardly even notice that you're giving it because it doesn't affect
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your lifestyle at all, then you're probably not giving enough. And I think it's the same thing with a,
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with a Lenten sacrifice. Like what you're thinking of, of, of giving up, it should fill you with some
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real trepidation as you consider going 40 days without it. You should be thinking to yourself,
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I don't know if I can do that. That's, I don't know. Um, so for example, and it's different for
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everybody. So for me, I know that, uh, a lame sacrifice for me in Lent, and I've done this before
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where I say, uh, okay, I'm, I'm not going to eat any sweets. I'm not gonna eat any chocolate or
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cookies or any kind of stuff, but, and I, I do like chocolate and cookies and junk food. Don't
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get me wrong, but I can already go five or six days without even really having any real craving for
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that. Um, it's not a big deal for me to not eat that stuff. So that's, I think not a good Lenten
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sacrifice. Um, I think it needs to be something that I, I rely on a little bit more, but it also
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shouldn't be something that is itself bad or immoral because if it's bad or immoral, then you
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should just be giving it up anyway, permanently. Um, not as part of a Lenten sacrifice. So I think
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the sweet spot here, no pun intended is something otherwise good or neutral that you normally would
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enjoy on a daily basis. I think that's what it's gotta be. So for me, I think one of the,
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the ultimate, uh, sacrifice in that vein would be if I gave up something like coffee. Now for a lot
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of people, giving up coffee would be kind of lame because they don't really need it that much. They
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don't drink that often, but I drink coffee all the time. I love coffee. I depend on it, especially in
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the morning. And so for me to give it up, that would be very, very difficult. And I've never actually
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done that. I, I, I don't have the guts. I don't have the courage to do that. I just, I can't imagine
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going 40 days without my cup of coffee. Um, but that is that's, see, that's what I, I should
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challenge myself to give up coffee. And I think it should be something in that, uh, in that vein.
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All right. So let me read one from Melissa. I got very, I got many emails like this, as you can imagine.
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Uh, I am not going to read them all. And many of them I can't read because they're far, far too,
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uh, vulgar, but here's just one random one that I chose. So from Melissa, it says, you disgust me
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your attack on Michael Jackson, a dead man in all caps, who is not in all caps here to defend himself
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is sickening. There is no evidence against him. None. All caps. This is a lie. And you are a liar.
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You should be ashamed of yourself. Uh, I was always a fan, but I'm done with you now. I realize
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now that you're a piece of S liar. All right. Uh, Melissa, first of all, I want to tell you this
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sincerely. I could not be happier to lose your support. I couldn't be happier. I am thrilled
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that you'll no longer be listening or reading. I, and I hope that you follow, follow through on that.
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So let me just say that I am not interested in having pedophile defenders as fans. I really,
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I'm just not. So I think it's great that you're not going to be listening to me or reading my stuff
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anymore. This is, let's call this a mutual breakup between us. I think it's best for both of us.
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Uh, so that's, that's fine. In fact, I assume you're not listening right now. So there's no reason
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for me to address my response to you. So to everyone else, first of all, the fact that Michael Jackson
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is dead and I heard this over and over again, he's dead, he's dead. Leave him alone. So who cares
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that he's dead? It doesn't make what he did any less evil. And the damage he did to the families
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he destroyed will last forever. They're not getting over it. When you molest children, uh, those
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human beings are going to have to live with that for the rest of their lives. So the fact that
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you're dead doesn't change that. He may be gone, but the, the impact, the, the awful impact of his
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evil predatory behavior still lives on. So that's why we still talk about it as for there being no
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evidence, which again, I heard over and over again, there's no evidence. There's no evidence.
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This is just delusional. There is overwhelming evidence, you know, usually, or, or very often
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when it comes to sex abuse, uh, child molestation, rape, whatever the case may be very often, uh,
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there isn't any evidence, uh, even if it actually happened. This is, this is one of the problems with,
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with, uh, prosecuting cases like this, because you, it's very difficult to find actual evidence,
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especially if it's something that happened in the past and, and all of that. Um, but in this,
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what makes this case different is that there is so much evidence there is so much documented evidence
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as opposed to what is usually the case. So I laid this out of my piece yesterday,
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but let me go over it again. And this is, this is just, I'm going to give you a small sampling of
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evidence. There's so much more, but I'll, I'm going to focus on, uh, what is it? Seven pieces of
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evidence that I think conclusively prove that Michael Jackson was a monster. And so that he
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can absolutely be convicted posthumously in the court of public opinion, even if he was not convicted
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in a legal court. And the fact that he was not convicted legally in court doesn't mean anything
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because he is a wealth, mega rich, wealthy, beloved, uh, celebrity who was able to essentially
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purchase an acquittal for himself because of his army of top lawyers. That's the thing is I talked
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about yesterday. If you, if you're very, very, very rich and it doesn't hurt to also be very famous
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and you can buy the best lawyers in the world and you have unlimited resources, um, it is going to be
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very easy for you to literally get away with murder. Just ask OJ Simpson, especially if your accusers are
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just, are kids and families who, who do not have anything close to the resources that you have.
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So that doesn't mean anything to me. Uh, we can look at the evidence ourselves and come to, so here's
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the evidence. Number one, Michael Jackson sought and befriended pre-pubescent boys. He took these
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boys as companions. He traveled the world with them. Every so often he would, he would discard one of
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them and bring in a new male companion. Uh, they were always boys. They were always young, never adults,
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never girls. Uh, number two, Jackson lavished the boys' families with gifts and money.
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And then he stopped doing that the moment he moved on to another boy. This fact is not disputed.
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And the fact, the first fact is not disputed either. Number three, Jackson invited the boys
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to his home, which was filled with toys and candy. This fact is not disputed. Number four,
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Jackson invited the boys into his bed. This fact is not disputed. Number five, Jackson had a stash of
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pornography right by that bed. That fact is also not disputed. Number six, the bed was in a
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room behind a locked door at the end of a hallway equipped with alarm systems to alert him whenever
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somebody was approaching. That fact also is not disputed, which leads us finally to the last piece
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of the puzzle. Uh, number seven, five of the boys who shared a bed with Michael Jackson later accused
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him of abuse. That fact also is not disputed. So it's a cumulative case. Okay. I wrote this yesterday
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and some Michael Jackson defenders, they went, they went through each point individually and tried to
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pick it apart. And they said, uh, they said, well, it's not a crime to give people gifts.
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That doesn't prove anything. Yeah. No kidding. Sherlock. I'm not saying that that alone proves
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anything. As you well know, if all Michael Jackson ever did was give gifts to random families,
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I would say he was a great man. He was a philanthropist, but that's not what he did.
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You know, he, he, he showered gifts on families only if they were the, only if those were families,
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um, with, with boys who slept in his bed. You ever noticed that he didn't pick out random. No,
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he never lavished gifts on families unless there was a boy that was a member of that family who was
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sleeping in his bed. Why do you think that is? You think it's just a coincidence?
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Um, and by the way, if all he ever did was fill his home with child, children's toys and, and candy
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and, um, uh, amusement park rides, I would say that the guy was a, was a weirdo and kind of a freak,
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but, uh, but I would say that that, that alone isn't, that's all he was. Okay. And that's,
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that's fine. You could be a weirdo and a freak if you want to be, if that was all that, that ever
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happened, but see each piece fits with the next piece. So you have to look at the entire,
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this is why I say it's cumulative. You look at the entire picture and you see how each thing goes
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with the next, goes with the next, goes with the next. And then when you stand back and you look
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at it, you say, Oh, wow, this guy was a monster. Um, on balance, the evidence against Michael Jackson
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is so strong that as I said yesterday, even if nobody had ever accused him, we could still say
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with near certainty that he was a predator. Facts one through six are so compelling on their own
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that you don't even need facts seven. If not one person had ever accused Michael Jackson,
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I would still be sitting here saying the guy was a predator because there is no other logical
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explanation for a guy seeking out young boys to come sleep in his bed. No explanation. None.
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Um, if something walks like a duck and flies like a duck and looks like a duck and quacks like a duck,
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it's still technically possible that it's not a duck. It could be a tiny little elf or something in a very
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realistic looking duck, like airplane flying around. It could be, I can't say that it's not.
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I cannot, if I'm looking at a duck walking past me on the road, I cannot prove, um, just by looking
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at it, that it's, that there is not a little magical elf inside the duck and it's a fake duck. I can't
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prove that. Um, but I think as a rational person, I don't really have to take such a remote and
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fanciful, fanciful possibility into consideration when it comes to ducks or pedophiles.
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And the point is that everybody, this, this is the thing about it. Everybody agrees
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with what I'm saying here, because if a guy named Bob Smith or Mike Jones was in the habit of
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befriending seven-year-old boys and inviting them over for sleepover parties and having them in his
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bed, everybody would agree that the guy was a creep and a predator. Nobody would disagree.
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Only in Michael Jackson case, do we somehow give him the benefit of the doubt because he was a good
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singer and a good dancer. But the problem is that being a good singer and dancer does not at all
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indicate that you are not a pedophile. Doesn't mean that you are obviously, but it doesn't mean that
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you're not. It just, it's not a, not a factor you can take it. If you love his music, that just simply
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is not something you can take into consideration. It's got nothing to do with this.
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Um, and I concede he was, he was very good. I think, I think his songs are a little overrated,
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but I, but he was gifted in both areas. And, but, uh, he was also a God forsaken monster.
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This is, this is just a simple, um, logic here. And this is the way logic works because,
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because the other thing people said to me, people that were a little bit less,
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um, you know, maybe not Michael Jackson cult cultists, but still were, you know, I think
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sympathetic to Michael Jackson. Some, some people in that camp said, uh, said, yeah, you know, there's a,
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there's very good circumstantial case, but you can't know that you can never know.
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Well, yes, but by that standard, you can never know anything, right? By if you really want to get
00:39:54.340
down to it and be very careful with your wording, you can never know anything. I mean, I can't even,
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I can't necessarily prove that, uh, I myself am not a very, a sentient robot. I can't really,
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I can't prove that. I can't prove that I'm not in the matrix. I can't prove that I was just created
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five seconds ago. And with, with all the memories, uh, implanted into my mind by space aliens,
00:40:22.380
maybe the whole world was for all, maybe the whole world was created five seconds ago. We were
00:40:27.120
all given false memories. Maybe the beginning of this very show never happened. It's all fake.
00:40:34.480
Can you prove that that's not the case? You can't. Um, but you can arrive at conclusions based on very,
00:40:43.960
very high levels of probability. So there is a very, very, very high level of probability
00:40:50.980
probability that you were born and that your life is real and was not implanted into your mind by
00:40:56.540
space alien, very high level of probability. That's the case. Very, very, very low level
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probability that it's not the case. Uh, so which means that that's just something that, you know,
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that's what we mean when we say, no, you know, that you're real, you know, that you exist. And so
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that's what we mean. Um, and so when we look at something like with the Michael Jackson case,
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you look at all this evidence and you see, this was a guy sought out little boys,
00:41:20.660
always had little boys around him, uh, always young boys, never girls, never adults,
00:41:27.040
had them in his bed, uh, then was accused five times. I mean, it's, it's possible to come up with
00:41:35.280
an explanation that doesn't include him being a monstrous pedophile. It is possible to imagine an
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explanation, but that explanation, the probability of that explanation being true is so astronomically
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low that you can, for all intents and purposes, discount it. And that's how our court system works,
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by the way, you know, that our court system is, uh, you are convicted beyond a reasonable doubt,
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but beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean beyond any doubt. There could always still be a doubt,
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but beyond a reasonable doubt, we come to a reasonable conclusion.
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In Michael Jackson's case with his actual court case, they did not come to a reasonable conclusion,
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but we can. So the most reasonable, by far the most reasonable, um, explanation for all of the
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factors that I have listed is that Michael Jackson was a pedophile. That is by far the most reasonable
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explanation. Any other explanation is simply so unreasonable that it can be discarded. Um,
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almost, but not quite with the same certainty that I can discard the idea that I was just created by
00:42:48.160
space aliens five minutes ago. Uh, maybe I not with that same, quite that same level of certainty,
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but still pretty high level of certainty. All right. We will leave it there. Uh, thanks everybody for
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watching and I'm sorry that, uh, for all the Michael Jackson fans who are boycotting. I wish I could say
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I'm sad to see you go, but I'm not to everyone else. I'll talk to you tomorrow. Godspeed.
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Hey everyone. It's Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan show. You know, the Democrats claim
00:43:23.640
that conservatives are obsessed with Alexandria occasional cortex, and maybe that's true because
00:43:29.400
you know who AOC is? AOC is the avatar of bad left-wing ideas. She is socialism come to life.
00:43:37.100
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