The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 212 - You're Not Allowed To Dislike Female-Led Action Films, You Sexist

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, in case you hadn't noticed, you're not allowed to dislike female-led action movies.

00:00:06.700 You have to like them no matter what.

00:00:09.040 So with this movie Captain Marvel coming out, a feminist action movie, 1.00

00:00:12.740 feminists are going into overdrive insisting that we like it. 1.00

00:00:16.260 We have to like it, so we'll discuss that.

00:00:18.420 Also, paid family leave.

00:00:20.520 Mandated paid family leave is getting bipartisan support.

00:00:24.360 I think that it is a terrible idea, as bipartisan ideas often are, and I'll explain why.

00:00:29.200 And finally, at what point should an artist's bad actions, should the bad actions of an artist cause us to stop enjoying their art?

00:00:37.980 We'll try to get into that question as well today on the Matt Walsh Show.

00:00:46.060 One of the dumbest things about our culture, and I hesitate in saying that because I realize it's quite a statement. 0.97

00:00:54.720 There are so many dumb things to choose from, but I do believe one of the dumbest is how you aren't allowed to dislike female-led action movies. 0.97

00:01:04.800 And that's why Ghostbusters, which is more of an action comedy with big fat scare quotes around action and comedy, 0.94

00:01:10.700 but it was critically acclaimed, despite being mediocre at best, and also being an absolute swan dive in terms of quality in comparison to the originals.

00:01:21.600 And that's why Wonder Woman was praised in the kind of effusive, ecstatic, almost poetic terms that we usually reserve for Renaissance art,

00:01:32.760 because that's the way it works.

00:01:34.580 If it's a female action movie and it's bad, then you have to say that it's at least pretty good. 1.00

00:01:42.700 But if it's a female action movie that's already pretty good or decent, then it's amazing, incredible, the great, it's a cinematic achievement.

00:01:50.800 Which is why, I mean, Wonder Woman was at most, eh, okay.

00:01:56.600 The most you could possibly say about it in objective terms, but you aren't allowed to be objective when it comes to female action movies. 1.00

00:02:03.940 And now Captain Marvel is coming out.

00:02:06.000 The movie Captain Marvel with Brie Larson, the woman who said she doesn't want white men reviewing her movie,

00:02:12.460 and she promises it will be the, and I quote, the biggest feminist movie of all time, which, the biggest feminist movie of all time is a superhero movie, 0.99

00:02:23.060 which is literally the worst possible way to sell a superhero movie.

00:02:30.200 You could not think of a worse marketing pitch than that.

00:02:35.920 You may as well try to sell a horror film by saying it's the cutest love story of all time.

00:02:41.120 You're using a sales pitch that is exactly the opposite of what almost everyone in that genre's fan base wants.

00:02:48.960 But that's what Brie Larson said.

00:02:51.460 And in any case, it's a big, big feminist movie, and men aren't allowed to review it. 1.00

00:02:57.640 Others have echoed this sentiment.

00:03:00.540 Alyssa Klein is apparently a film journalist, according to her Twitter bio.

00:03:05.760 And she was on Twitter yesterday, blasting the male critics who dared to review this movie.

00:03:13.680 And not just dared to review it, but some of them, if you can believe it, gave it a negative review.

00:03:19.820 And so she was sort of busily posting all of the negative reviews from men

00:03:26.820 and trying to sick her followers on these people for daring to dislike the movie.

00:03:33.180 Meanwhile, a feminist website called The Mary Sue claimed that all of the negative reviews of this movie,

00:03:40.760 which comes out on Friday, all of the negative reviews are from men.

00:03:47.280 This has become a rallying cry among feminists, and as always with these things. 0.99

00:03:53.600 But it's not true, by the way.

00:03:56.580 There are plenty of women who have given it negative reviews as well. 0.99

00:04:00.960 But just think about the stupidity in the fact that there is even a rallying cry at all around a movie 0.99

00:04:08.960 about a magical ninja in a rubber suit who goes around shooting lasers out of her hands or eyes or whatever. 0.99

00:04:15.580 I think there are lasers involved, right, with Captain Marvel.

00:04:17.440 I'm not sure.

00:04:18.580 But usually there is with superheroes.

00:04:21.820 Now, there are articles being written about the controversy surrounding Captain Marvel reviews.

00:04:29.620 What's the controversy?

00:04:31.620 Well, the controversy is that some people didn't like it.

00:04:34.500 That's what the controversy is.

00:04:36.980 They didn't like it because, in their opinion, it just wasn't a very good movie.

00:04:40.740 As far as I'm aware, there hasn't been any review written by a man taking issue with the movie

00:04:47.320 because Brie Larson should have been in the kitchen making her man a lasagna 1.00

00:04:50.580 rather than messing around with all the superhero stuff.

00:04:52.980 Okay, that's not what anyone is saying.

00:04:55.760 No one is saying, that's man's work, woman.

00:04:58.600 Now, get rid of that cape and put on an apron. 1.00

00:05:01.140 That's where you belong.

00:05:02.200 No, that's not what no man is.

00:05:04.140 As far as I know, no man is saying that.

00:05:06.860 It's just some people have said, yeah, you know, it's not a great movie.

00:05:10.620 It's okay.

00:05:11.200 It's just not great.

00:05:11.980 I mean, that's what some people have said.

00:05:13.460 But feminists respond to that criticism with a banshee-like shrieking, 1.00

00:05:20.940 which is how they respond to everything. 0.99

00:05:22.680 Because you're not allowed to like a movie about a girl kicking butt. 1.00

00:05:26.860 If it's a butt-kicking girl movie, you're not allowed to. 0.87

00:05:30.840 You have to like it. 0.66

00:05:31.860 You cannot not like it.

00:05:34.380 Which is why it's kind of funny, and I recommend after the show,

00:05:41.360 go to Rotten Tomatoes, the review aggregator site,

00:05:46.600 and check out the reviews of this movie.

00:05:50.360 The reviews that started coming out yesterday.

00:05:53.660 Yeah, there are, like I said, there are some negative reviews,

00:05:55.800 including some negative reviews from women.

00:05:58.140 But most critics will not dare to write a fully negative review

00:06:02.680 about a female-led action movie.

00:06:04.780 They just won't do it. 1.00

00:06:06.120 Because they know that they, this is how stupid everything is, 1.00

00:06:08.660 that they know they take their careers into their hands, 1.00

00:06:11.360 if they commit the sin of disliking a movie about a woman fighting bad guys.

00:06:16.380 So what you find on Rotten Tomatoes are a bunch of critics

00:06:22.400 desperately trying to find a reason, any reason,

00:06:27.260 to give this movie a positive grade.

00:06:29.220 It's pretty clear that it's not a very good movie. 1.00

00:06:31.200 It's kind of a stupid movie. 1.00

00:06:32.680 But there are all these critics. 1.00

00:06:34.120 I think it's got like an 84%, 85% rating on Rotten Tomatoes right now

00:06:37.540 because all of these critics are trying to find,

00:06:41.000 they know they have to like it,

00:06:42.560 and so they're finding some way to like this movie.

00:06:47.260 And so let me read you some of the descriptions

00:06:49.420 from positive reviews.

00:06:52.860 Okay, these are some of the adjectives,

00:06:56.700 some of the descriptions that the positive reviews

00:07:00.240 compiled by Rotten Tomatoes have used.

00:07:04.500 Descriptions like convoluted plotting,

00:07:08.440 predictable, exhausting, shaky and confused,

00:07:14.300 flawed, a disappointment, mid-tier,

00:07:18.860 not going to reinvent the wheel,

00:07:21.340 forgettable, a work in progress.

00:07:23.680 Okay, these are the positive reviews of the movie.

00:07:26.980 These are people who didn't like the movie pretty clearly.

00:07:29.880 They thought that it was forgettable,

00:07:31.720 dull, boring, a disappointment,

00:07:33.540 but they knew that they had to give it a thumbs up anyway. 0.95

00:07:40.240 This is the bigotry of low expectations on steroids.

00:07:44.160 This is, yeah, it's a disappointment, 0.74

00:07:46.320 forgettable, dull, boring,

00:07:47.780 but it's got a lady in it. 1.00

00:07:49.600 There's a woman in it, so it must be good.

00:07:53.680 Um, the real reason for all the positive reviews

00:07:57.200 can be summed up by one of the less hesitant

00:08:02.320 positive reviews that I found.

00:08:04.660 Um, one of the reviewers said this,

00:08:06.980 we are still at the point where the visuals

00:08:09.640 of such a powerful female hero 0.97

00:08:11.980 are rare enough that its sheer existence

00:08:15.140 makes you giddy.

00:08:17.120 Okay, this is what someone said.

00:08:18.520 The sheer existence of this movie,

00:08:21.360 doesn't matter if it's good,

00:08:22.220 it doesn't matter what it's about,

00:08:23.260 just its sheer existence

00:08:24.960 is enough for you to praise it.

00:08:28.920 The thing that's so funny about that

00:08:30.640 is that, um,

00:08:32.420 I wrote my own review of Captain Marvel

00:08:34.740 and published it to the Daily Wire yesterday,

00:08:37.120 and the title of my review is, uh,

00:08:39.160 Captain Marvel is a Towering Artistic Achievement,

00:08:41.860 and the joke, of course,

00:08:43.600 is that I'm showering the movie 0.90

00:08:45.280 with ridiculous praise

00:08:46.620 simply because I don't want anyone 0.91

00:08:48.020 to call me a sexist.

00:08:49.600 Uh, even though I admit

00:08:50.700 that I haven't even seen the movie

00:08:52.000 and never planned to,

00:08:52.980 but I am heaping all this praise on it.

00:08:55.800 But let me, here's a paragraph

00:08:57.380 from my, now keep in mind

00:08:59.300 that real review, I just,

00:09:01.020 a snippet of that real review

00:09:02.060 that I just read to you.

00:09:03.340 Here's a snippet of my fake satirical review.

00:09:07.420 I said,

00:09:08.360 does Brie Larson do a good job

00:09:10.460 acting in the movie?

00:09:12.180 Well, your question is stunningly misogynistic.

00:09:15.160 Brie Larson isn't there to impress you.

00:09:17.060 You have no right to judge her performance.

00:09:19.920 She's not a puppet dancing on your string, 1.00

00:09:22.420 you scum. 1.00

00:09:23.720 All you need to know is that Larson is there, 1.00

00:09:26.420 in the film, existing, breathing, being.

00:09:30.620 Her performance was already magnificent

00:09:32.360 before she stepped one foot onto the set.

00:09:35.020 Her performance was inspiring and beautiful

00:09:37.140 even before she was born.

00:09:39.020 This moment, this movie,

00:09:40.880 was written in the stars,

00:09:42.800 destined from the beginning of time.

00:09:44.280 Now, I didn't read that other real review

00:09:47.300 before writing that.

00:09:48.380 I meant it as a joke.

00:09:50.700 That Brie Larson's sheer existence in the film

00:09:53.800 is enough reason to love it.

00:09:55.320 But then some real film reviewer

00:09:57.620 actually made that same point

00:09:59.880 in all seriousness.

00:10:02.540 My God.

00:10:03.140 Of course, the other meme

00:10:07.080 that you get with these movies

00:10:08.280 is that angry,

00:10:10.180 what you always hear

00:10:10.960 is the same thing with Ghostbusters.

00:10:12.080 What you always hear

00:10:12.780 is what the media says, 0.98

00:10:15.280 well, it's a bunch of angry white men. 0.98

00:10:18.440 A bunch of angry white men 0.98

00:10:20.020 are losing their minds over this movie. 0.96

00:10:21.860 They hate that this movie is out there.

00:10:24.260 In fact, right on cue,

00:10:25.920 the Daily Beast has an article

00:10:27.220 with that title verbatim.

00:10:29.580 The title is

00:10:30.260 How Brie Larson's Captain Marvel 1.00

00:10:32.140 Made Angry White Men Lose Their Damn Minds. 1.00

00:10:35.940 Meanwhile, 1.00

00:10:37.220 no man is losing his mind over this.

00:10:41.260 Men are just going, 0.99

00:10:42.680 eh, okay, it's not great.

00:10:44.240 You know, I, hmm.

00:10:45.380 That's what men are doing. 0.99

00:10:47.540 That's being called losing their minds.

00:10:49.300 But men are just saying, eh.

00:10:52.600 Feminists are the ones 1.00

00:10:53.700 who are losing their minds. 0.97

00:10:55.040 So the way that the conversation goes is

00:10:57.060 men say, yeah, you know, didn't love it.

00:11:00.780 And then feminists say, 1.00

00:11:02.020 why didn't you love it? 1.00

00:11:03.020 You sexist, you pig, you scum. 1.00

00:11:05.320 Why don't you die? 1.00

00:11:07.080 And then men say, okay, okay, take it easy. 1.00

00:11:09.100 And then feminists say, 1.00

00:11:09.940 why are you so angry?

00:11:11.440 Calm down.

00:11:13.200 That's the way that the conversation always goes.

00:11:15.600 So, um,

00:11:17.200 what is this all about?

00:11:21.440 Why, why does it, you know,

00:11:22.840 now every time there's a,

00:11:24.140 one of these female action movies, 1.00

00:11:25.540 which, which by the way, is nothing new.

00:11:27.060 Uh, you know,

00:11:28.320 there, there have been female-led action movies 0.99

00:11:30.480 for decades.

00:11:32.080 Kill Bill came out in what?

00:11:33.820 Like 2002 or three.

00:11:36.180 Um, and, uh,

00:11:37.420 that was a female-led,

00:11:39.140 led action movie.

00:11:40.380 And there have been,

00:11:41.400 there have been plenty before,

00:11:42.560 since and before that.

00:11:44.220 But why has it now become this,

00:11:46.440 uh, why is it now this,

00:11:48.040 this whole thing where it comes out,

00:11:49.720 it's this whole event

00:11:50.600 and everyone has to pretend to like it.

00:11:52.020 Well,

00:11:53.080 I think it just shows

00:11:54.920 the incredible insecurity

00:11:56.640 of feminists,

00:11:58.140 yet again.

00:11:59.680 Um,

00:12:00.080 insecurity is what drives

00:12:02.140 most of their positions.

00:12:04.540 Um,

00:12:05.220 most of what they do and say

00:12:06.880 really just comes down to insecurity.

00:12:09.700 Feminists are insecure 1.00

00:12:11.160 about the fact that 0.78

00:12:13.480 they themselves are not men.

00:12:16.280 This has always been

00:12:17.820 the paradox of feminism 0.97

00:12:19.540 is that they hate men, 0.95

00:12:21.360 but they also want to be men.

00:12:23.280 They hate men 0.75

00:12:24.060 because they themselves 0.67

00:12:25.420 are not men

00:12:26.360 and they wish they were.

00:12:27.480 Which is pretty typical,

00:12:28.520 I guess.

00:12:28.840 Maybe it's not even paradoxical.

00:12:30.440 It's pretty typical that when you,

00:12:32.320 uh,

00:12:32.640 that people generally hate

00:12:34.560 whoever they are envious of.

00:12:38.660 And so they see,

00:12:40.160 what they see is that,

00:12:41.380 uh,

00:12:41.600 is that men have a lot of action movies.

00:12:43.660 Um,

00:12:45.080 there are a lot of action hero men

00:12:46.900 and so they want their own.

00:12:49.120 The only reason they want it

00:12:50.980 is because men have it.

00:12:52.660 That's the only reason.

00:12:53.860 It's not because they find anything

00:12:55.880 objectively good about it or anything.

00:12:57.940 It's just they want it

00:12:58.960 because men have it.

00:13:01.420 And then they want theirs

00:13:03.040 to be just as good.

00:13:05.280 And if you say that theirs

00:13:06.740 isn't just as good

00:13:07.900 or if it's,

00:13:08.500 or whatever,

00:13:09.340 uh,

00:13:09.780 they have,

00:13:10.340 they have a temper tantrum over it

00:13:11.760 and that's the way it goes.

00:13:12.920 It's the same thing

00:13:13.940 that I mentioned before.

00:13:16.040 Feminists are very insecure 1.00

00:13:17.560 about,

00:13:19.020 um,

00:13:19.600 the fact that

00:13:20.840 about,

00:13:22.060 about,

00:13:22.440 you know,

00:13:22.800 sense about,

00:13:23.340 about humor,

00:13:24.280 uh,

00:13:24.900 comedy.

00:13:26.600 And

00:13:27.080 they know that

00:13:29.000 most of the greatest comedians

00:13:31.240 in,

00:13:31.520 in,

00:13:31.800 in,

00:13:32.000 in history have been men.

00:13:34.140 Uh,

00:13:34.620 most of the funniest movies

00:13:36.100 that have come out

00:13:36.820 have been written by men,

00:13:38.800 directed by men,

00:13:39.740 starring men.

00:13:40.440 And,

00:13:42.620 uh,

00:13:42.820 so they have a,

00:13:43.700 they,

00:13:44.840 they,

00:13:45.000 they get very insecure

00:13:45.800 about that.

00:13:47.300 And they insist,

00:13:48.360 no,

00:13:48.540 no,

00:13:48.720 we,

00:13:49.000 men are funny.

00:13:50.080 Men have funny things.

00:13:50.960 We need to,

00:13:51.380 we need to have funny things too

00:13:52.380 because we need to be just like men.

00:13:54.560 And so they have their own comedians

00:13:56.300 and their own movies

00:13:57.120 and,

00:13:57.480 and some of their comedians

00:13:58.460 are,

00:13:58.740 are legitimately funny

00:13:59.760 and some of their movies

00:14:01.080 are legitimately funny,

00:14:02.020 but some of them really aren't.

00:14:04.160 But you're not allowed to say that.

00:14:05.420 You have to pretend,

00:14:06.260 right?

00:14:07.940 When,

00:14:08.160 when,

00:14:08.480 when someone like Amy Schumer

00:14:09.760 comes along

00:14:10.440 and,

00:14:10.700 and really she's not funny at all

00:14:11.980 and has no actual real jokes,

00:14:13.800 but you have to pretend,

00:14:15.440 well,

00:14:15.520 she's a woman though.

00:14:16.340 So we have to grade her on a curve 1.00

00:14:17.680 and pretend that she's,

00:14:18.800 uh,

00:14:18.940 that she's funny.

00:14:19.540 So that's,

00:14:20.280 that's what it comes down to.

00:14:21.120 It's just kind of this,

00:14:21.920 uh,

00:14:22.260 really silly insecurity 0.99

00:14:23.500 on the part of feminists. 1.00

00:14:26.560 All right.

00:14:27.260 Uh,

00:14:27.640 switching gears here.

00:14:28.460 I want to talk about,

00:14:29.300 um,

00:14:30.340 something that has been gaining

00:14:32.360 a lot of,

00:14:33.800 uh,

00:14:34.000 steam recently.

00:14:34.940 And that is the issue

00:14:37.160 of paid family leave.

00:14:39.700 Okay.

00:14:40.280 Paid family leave is an idea 1.00

00:14:42.420 that is,

00:14:43.220 uh,

00:14:43.420 gaining bipartisan support,

00:14:45.120 which is,

00:14:45.980 which you should always be,

00:14:47.380 what the media tells us

00:14:48.700 is that anytime something

00:14:49.780 is getting bipartisan support,

00:14:51.300 that means it's probably

00:14:52.640 a good idea

00:14:53.460 and we should pay attention to it.

00:14:54.660 Uh,

00:14:55.220 but in reality,

00:14:56.080 it goes the other way

00:14:57.400 is that when,

00:14:58.600 when something is getting

00:14:59.440 bipartisan support,

00:15:00.480 that's when you should be

00:15:01.440 really suspicious of it.

00:15:02.640 because I mean,

00:15:05.480 it's bad enough 1.00

00:15:06.220 when one group of idiots 1.00

00:15:07.380 likes a certain proposal, 1.00

00:15:08.760 but when both groups 1.00

00:15:10.480 of idiots like it, 1.00

00:15:11.660 well then now, 1.00

00:15:12.620 you know,

00:15:12.820 it must be really bad.

00:15:14.180 Right.

00:15:15.420 Uh,

00:15:15.900 but it's,

00:15:16.960 you know,

00:15:17.480 it is getting a lot of,

00:15:18.360 Democrats love the idea.

00:15:19.980 Republicans are getting behind it.

00:15:21.660 Trump is in favor of it.

00:15:23.240 Um,

00:15:23.820 I was at CPAC last week

00:15:25.320 and Rick Santorum

00:15:26.340 was there

00:15:26.940 stumping for,

00:15:28.380 for,

00:15:28.980 um,

00:15:29.200 paid family leave.

00:15:29.980 He had this big sign

00:15:31.400 that was out near,

00:15:32.320 um,

00:15:32.580 broad,

00:15:33.040 broad crack.

00:15:34.200 It's called broadcast row

00:15:35.360 where all the,

00:15:35.820 um,

00:15:37.320 you know,

00:15:37.880 TV stations and radio stations

00:15:39.400 and stuff are set up at CPAC.

00:15:40.620 And he had this big sign there

00:15:42.040 that said,

00:15:43.640 uh,

00:15:43.800 something like paid family leave

00:15:45.120 is a conservative position

00:15:47.000 or conservative priority.

00:15:49.620 Now,

00:15:50.360 paid family leave,

00:15:51.320 of course,

00:15:51.780 is not a new idea.

00:15:53.840 Uh,

00:15:54.120 many employers

00:15:55.300 offer paid leave

00:15:56.680 to their employees

00:15:57.400 for maternity,

00:15:58.540 sickness,

00:15:58.840 other medical

00:15:59.760 or family issues

00:16:00.720 and so on.

00:16:02.040 But some employers

00:16:03.660 don't offer it.

00:16:05.140 Um,

00:16:05.680 especially small employers,

00:16:07.460 small businesses

00:16:08.240 often cannot afford it

00:16:10.660 because if you've got

00:16:12.260 a small business

00:16:13.080 and,

00:16:14.320 um,

00:16:15.700 you've only got

00:16:16.980 five employees,

00:16:18.440 you probably

00:16:20.480 can't afford

00:16:21.600 to pay

00:16:22.140 one of your employees

00:16:23.040 to be gone

00:16:23.820 for five weeks.

00:16:24.700 You just can't afford it.

00:16:26.020 You don't have

00:16:26.520 the resources for that,

00:16:27.740 especially because

00:16:29.060 when you pay

00:16:30.520 your employee

00:16:31.020 to be gone

00:16:31.480 for five weeks,

00:16:32.160 you also have

00:16:32.860 to pay someone else

00:16:34.220 to temporarily

00:16:34.820 come in

00:16:35.680 and,

00:16:37.240 uh,

00:16:37.440 take that person's

00:16:38.260 place.

00:16:40.440 And so now

00:16:41.140 it's double the cost

00:16:41.940 and you just can't

00:16:42.520 afford it.

00:16:44.960 But Republicans

00:16:45.780 and Democrats

00:16:46.420 now want

00:16:48.060 to mandate it.

00:16:50.260 And that's the way

00:16:51.080 it always works

00:16:51.540 with government,

00:16:52.020 right?

00:16:52.180 They see how,

00:16:53.080 uh,

00:16:53.900 there's a certain thing

00:16:54.960 that isn't happening

00:16:56.960 or at least

00:16:59.120 isn't happening

00:16:59.720 enough,

00:17:00.140 according to them.

00:17:02.000 And it's not

00:17:02.840 happening enough

00:17:04.000 because it just,

00:17:05.200 people can't afford it.

00:17:05.940 They can't do it.

00:17:06.460 And so the solution

00:17:08.000 from our,

00:17:08.940 from our illustrious

00:17:09.660 politicians

00:17:10.140 is to just mandate it.

00:17:11.800 It's to say,

00:17:12.600 oh,

00:17:12.800 well,

00:17:12.980 you can't afford it.

00:17:13.700 Well,

00:17:13.780 you have to do it now.

00:17:15.360 Now that's how

00:17:16.120 we'll solve that problem.

00:17:18.240 They want

00:17:19.060 to tell employers

00:17:20.660 that they must

00:17:22.700 offer paid

00:17:23.780 family leave

00:17:24.320 and not just

00:17:25.800 that they must,

00:17:26.620 but these

00:17:27.380 politicians

00:17:28.040 are going

00:17:28.660 to mandate

00:17:29.320 how much

00:17:30.040 time will be

00:17:30.780 offered

00:17:31.100 and for what

00:17:32.660 reasons.

00:17:33.500 And they're going

00:17:34.200 to set all

00:17:34.700 the other

00:17:35.060 parameters as well,

00:17:36.460 right?

00:17:37.500 So they are

00:17:38.700 sitting up

00:17:40.200 on their perch

00:17:40.960 in D.C.

00:17:41.560 They're surveying

00:17:42.420 the whole landscape

00:17:43.400 and declaring

00:17:45.020 what everyone

00:17:45.920 should do.

00:17:46.480 They're making

00:17:46.820 their declaration.

00:17:48.400 This is what

00:17:48.880 everybody has

00:17:50.020 to do.

00:17:51.580 Not taking

00:17:52.540 into account

00:17:53.300 individual cases,

00:17:55.660 not taking

00:17:56.060 into account

00:17:56.500 exceptions,

00:17:57.580 not taking

00:17:58.040 into account

00:17:58.640 the situation,

00:18:00.520 the actual

00:18:00.900 real-world

00:18:01.540 situations

00:18:02.180 that employers

00:18:03.120 find themselves

00:18:03.900 in,

00:18:04.400 not taking

00:18:05.020 anything

00:18:05.420 into account

00:18:06.200 but the

00:18:06.620 political

00:18:07.040 spectacle

00:18:07.620 of it.

00:18:09.000 All that

00:18:09.760 they care

00:18:10.260 about

00:18:10.580 is that

00:18:11.360 the voters

00:18:12.100 will see

00:18:13.760 them,

00:18:14.840 will see

00:18:16.000 the politicians

00:18:16.720 trying to

00:18:17.760 give them,

00:18:18.860 the voters,

00:18:19.480 something.

00:18:19.740 That's all

00:18:20.400 that they

00:18:20.940 want.

00:18:23.380 Now,

00:18:23.980 there are

00:18:24.200 different ideas

00:18:24.860 for how to

00:18:25.600 structure this

00:18:26.340 kind of

00:18:26.680 entitlement

00:18:27.040 plan,

00:18:28.120 and it is

00:18:28.720 certainly an

00:18:29.200 entitlement

00:18:29.540 plan.

00:18:32.200 It's literally

00:18:33.160 an entitlement.

00:18:34.340 Politicians are

00:18:35.120 saying everybody

00:18:36.020 is entitled

00:18:37.300 to three or

00:18:38.700 five or

00:18:39.200 twelve weeks

00:18:39.800 of a paid

00:18:40.320 family leave.

00:18:41.780 Different ideas

00:18:42.520 on how to

00:18:42.820 structure it,

00:18:43.380 different ideas

00:18:43.880 on how to

00:18:44.160 fund it,

00:18:44.700 but no

00:18:46.560 matter what,

00:18:47.500 it will

00:18:47.860 be costly.

00:18:49.080 No matter

00:18:49.740 what,

00:18:50.360 private citizens

00:18:51.300 and businesses

00:18:52.340 will be footing

00:18:53.480 the bill for

00:18:54.040 this thing,

00:18:54.800 whether they

00:18:55.440 can afford

00:18:56.000 it or not.

00:18:57.400 And remember,

00:18:58.120 the whole

00:18:58.700 reason why

00:18:59.780 some employers

00:19:01.160 don't have

00:19:01.860 paid family

00:19:02.300 leave is

00:19:03.040 because they

00:19:03.540 can't afford

00:19:04.280 it.

00:19:05.520 I'm sure

00:19:06.220 that if you

00:19:06.720 have a business

00:19:07.560 with five

00:19:08.080 employees,

00:19:08.840 you would

00:19:09.320 love it if

00:19:10.220 you actually

00:19:10.720 had a business

00:19:11.280 with 500

00:19:12.080 employees and

00:19:12.840 you could afford

00:19:13.340 to do something,

00:19:13.920 but that's

00:19:14.700 just not the

00:19:15.260 situation that

00:19:15.960 you're in.

00:19:18.620 It is my,

00:19:20.300 call me an

00:19:20.940 optimist,

00:19:21.640 but you'd be

00:19:23.380 the first to

00:19:23.840 ever call me

00:19:24.220 that,

00:19:24.520 but call me

00:19:25.000 an optimist.

00:19:25.480 I don't think

00:19:26.340 that there are

00:19:26.740 very many

00:19:27.300 employers out

00:19:28.440 there who

00:19:30.760 decline to

00:19:31.520 offer paid

00:19:32.260 leave just

00:19:35.380 because they're

00:19:36.340 like, you

00:19:37.360 know,

00:19:37.640 Grinches or

00:19:38.640 Scrooges or

00:19:39.680 whatever,

00:19:40.220 and they just

00:19:41.420 don't offer

00:19:42.180 it because

00:19:42.720 they want

00:19:43.620 to see

00:19:43.940 their

00:19:44.160 employees

00:19:44.640 suffering.

00:19:47.300 You know,

00:19:47.840 when I think

00:19:48.440 of private

00:19:49.440 business owners,

00:19:50.380 I don't,

00:19:51.020 unlike a lot

00:19:52.180 of people,

00:19:52.660 I don't

00:19:53.080 imagine some

00:19:55.360 evil old 0.99

00:19:57.100 white guy, 1.00

00:19:58.020 you know, 0.97

00:19:58.620 chomping on

00:19:59.140 his cigar,

00:20:00.040 sitting behind

00:20:00.600 a big oak

00:20:01.600 desk,

00:20:02.700 you know,

00:20:02.960 petting his

00:20:03.400 white cat

00:20:04.040 and laughing

00:20:05.360 maniacally to

00:20:06.220 himself when

00:20:06.820 he thinks

00:20:07.140 about all

00:20:07.600 the,

00:20:08.060 all the,

00:20:08.720 all of his

00:20:09.520 employees who

00:20:10.960 he's not

00:20:11.440 giving paid

00:20:12.060 leave to.

00:20:12.640 That's not

00:20:13.160 what I

00:20:13.440 imagine.

00:20:13.940 When I think

00:20:14.560 of business

00:20:14.900 owners,

00:20:15.260 I think most

00:20:16.120 of them are

00:20:16.500 just,

00:20:16.840 you know,

00:20:17.020 they own

00:20:17.600 small to

00:20:18.340 medium-sized

00:20:18.980 businesses and

00:20:20.300 they're trying

00:20:20.700 to make it

00:20:21.140 by,

00:20:22.060 and it's,

00:20:24.280 you know,

00:20:24.820 they don't

00:20:25.340 have a lot

00:20:25.780 of room to

00:20:26.280 work with,

00:20:27.200 and if

00:20:28.660 they're not

00:20:29.420 offering these

00:20:30.300 kinds of

00:20:31.060 programs,

00:20:32.040 it's because

00:20:32.640 they just

00:20:33.080 can't.

00:20:34.240 They'd love

00:20:34.860 to,

00:20:35.160 but they

00:20:35.520 can't.

00:20:37.700 So,

00:20:38.580 I think when

00:20:40.200 we talk about

00:20:41.140 something like

00:20:41.560 this,

00:20:42.060 we don't

00:20:44.000 even need to

00:20:44.560 get into

00:20:44.940 the cost

00:20:45.620 of it.

00:20:46.080 We don't

00:20:46.280 even need to

00:20:46.740 get into

00:20:47.020 the practical

00:20:47.740 aspects,

00:20:48.560 which is,

00:20:48.860 which is an

00:20:49.220 important aspect,

00:20:50.080 of course,

00:20:50.900 and I think

00:20:51.620 it is,

00:20:52.080 the cost

00:20:52.740 alone is

00:20:53.320 prohibitive,

00:20:53.780 but I think

00:20:56.540 that's not

00:20:57.440 really the

00:20:57.920 point.

00:20:59.360 There is

00:21:00.160 rather,

00:21:00.720 I would say,

00:21:01.480 a philosophical

00:21:02.460 question here,

00:21:03.980 and it's a

00:21:05.040 philosophical

00:21:05.540 question that

00:21:07.040 at some

00:21:07.680 point we

00:21:08.320 just sort

00:21:09.040 of stopped

00:21:09.620 asking ourselves,

00:21:10.560 but I

00:21:10.920 think we

00:21:11.200 need to

00:21:11.440 ask ourselves

00:21:11.960 this question,

00:21:13.160 and that

00:21:14.040 is,

00:21:15.080 what is

00:21:16.720 the point

00:21:17.340 of government?

00:21:20.000 You know,

00:21:20.360 fundamentally,

00:21:21.680 what is

00:21:22.640 government

00:21:23.100 supposed to

00:21:23.820 do?

00:21:24.080 Why do

00:21:24.600 we have

00:21:25.000 a government?

00:21:25.780 What is

00:21:26.320 its job?

00:21:28.980 And I

00:21:29.500 really think

00:21:30.320 that a lot

00:21:31.200 of people,

00:21:32.140 they go their

00:21:33.620 whole lives,

00:21:34.220 they never ask

00:21:34.940 themselves that

00:21:35.520 question.

00:21:35.760 they never

00:21:36.520 develop any

00:21:37.440 sense of,

00:21:38.260 any idea of

00:21:39.340 what the

00:21:40.020 government even

00:21:40.680 is, or what

00:21:41.520 it's supposed

00:21:41.940 to do, yet

00:21:43.160 they still have

00:21:43.740 all these

00:21:44.200 opinions about

00:21:46.160 different policies

00:21:47.040 they support,

00:21:47.800 and different

00:21:48.060 laws, and

00:21:48.620 everything, and

00:21:49.340 it's all kind

00:21:49.860 of haphazard,

00:21:51.320 and, you

00:21:53.660 know, they

00:21:53.920 just, they

00:21:56.260 come up with

00:21:57.060 their positions

00:21:58.800 and their

00:21:59.140 opinions, it's

00:21:59.700 all isolated,

00:22:01.440 right?

00:22:01.900 There's nothing

00:22:02.480 coherent about

00:22:03.440 it.

00:22:03.620 I think most

00:22:05.020 people don't

00:22:05.520 bother coming 0.97

00:22:06.140 up with a

00:22:06.720 coherent kind

00:22:08.640 of philosophy

00:22:10.000 of government.

00:22:13.180 Well, fortunately,

00:22:14.700 our founding

00:22:15.200 fathers did 0.83

00:22:16.100 bother coming 0.97

00:22:17.220 up with a

00:22:17.740 coherent

00:22:18.040 philosophy of

00:22:18.780 government, and

00:22:20.060 their philosophy

00:22:21.320 was that

00:22:21.920 government exists

00:22:23.220 to protect our

00:22:24.540 liberty, you

00:22:25.560 know, to

00:22:25.740 protect our

00:22:26.260 rights.

00:22:26.720 That's why we

00:22:27.480 have government.

00:22:28.040 That is the

00:22:28.520 fundamental

00:22:29.140 philosophical

00:22:30.980 reason why

00:22:33.600 government

00:22:34.120 exists.

00:22:36.220 I think most

00:22:37.240 people today,

00:22:38.120 although, again,

00:22:38.800 they don't

00:22:39.000 really stop to

00:22:39.600 think about

00:22:40.020 it, they

00:22:40.220 don't come

00:22:40.500 up with a

00:22:40.880 coherent idea

00:22:41.800 of it, but

00:22:42.300 when it comes

00:22:42.700 down to it,

00:22:44.220 what they

00:22:44.920 really think

00:22:45.780 is that the

00:22:46.440 government

00:22:46.720 exists to

00:22:47.460 protect, fund,

00:22:48.860 facilitate our

00:22:50.200 lifestyles and

00:22:51.900 our comfort.

00:22:53.860 Government

00:22:54.420 exists to

00:22:55.260 provide for

00:22:56.660 us.

00:22:57.740 Government

00:22:58.000 is sort of

00:22:58.880 the ultimate

00:23:01.200 daddy.

00:23:01.840 it's everyone's

00:23:05.100 daddy that's

00:23:06.280 just up there

00:23:07.000 and giving us

00:23:07.840 what we need.

00:23:09.300 That's the

00:23:09.900 idea of

00:23:10.500 government that

00:23:11.040 a lot of

00:23:11.460 people have.

00:23:12.560 And when you

00:23:13.040 have that idea

00:23:13.860 of government,

00:23:14.440 then I guess it

00:23:15.040 makes sense.

00:23:15.780 Something like

00:23:16.260 paid family

00:23:16.700 leave, in that

00:23:17.180 case, just

00:23:18.220 makes a whole

00:23:18.780 lot of sense.

00:23:22.200 Because it

00:23:23.640 would make our

00:23:24.240 lives a lot

00:23:24.800 easier if we

00:23:25.900 had paid family

00:23:26.580 leave. 0.99

00:23:27.320 It would make

00:23:28.020 us a lot more

00:23:28.620 comfortable, and

00:23:30.860 so the

00:23:31.200 government should

00:23:31.720 give us that.

00:23:33.260 Because that's

00:23:34.900 the argument that

00:23:36.380 most people

00:23:36.940 have.

00:23:38.500 It's just, it

00:23:39.860 would be nice to

00:23:40.680 have that thing,

00:23:41.500 it would make my

00:23:42.080 life easier, and

00:23:43.060 so the government

00:23:43.920 should see that I

00:23:44.800 have it.

00:23:45.180 That's all.

00:23:47.020 Why should I need

00:23:48.040 any more reason

00:23:48.720 than that?

00:23:49.340 It's something that

00:23:50.220 I want, it would

00:23:51.740 be good for me,

00:23:53.000 it would help me,

00:23:54.140 and so the

00:23:55.680 government should

00:23:56.140 give it to me.

00:23:58.840 And that's why

00:23:59.600 when you have

00:24:00.060 this discussion,

00:24:01.580 and you, you

00:24:03.820 know, you take

00:24:04.300 the position that

00:24:05.040 no, I don't, I

00:24:05.540 don't think the

00:24:05.880 government should

00:24:06.320 provide that.

00:24:08.000 A lot of people,

00:24:09.380 when they hear you

00:24:10.300 make that argument,

00:24:11.620 they're going to

00:24:13.740 respond by

00:24:14.700 explaining why

00:24:16.240 that thing itself

00:24:17.440 is good.

00:24:18.140 So like, you'll

00:24:19.260 say, no, I don't

00:24:19.780 think the government

00:24:20.300 should provide

00:24:21.140 paid family leave.

00:24:22.780 And so the

00:24:24.040 response will be,

00:24:25.060 yeah, but paid

00:24:25.560 family leave is

00:24:26.120 good.

00:24:26.400 It would really

00:24:26.740 help me.

00:24:27.460 They respond by

00:24:28.980 explaining all the

00:24:30.080 ways that paid

00:24:31.900 family leave is

00:24:32.600 good.

00:24:33.040 Well, no, but

00:24:33.540 no, you're not

00:24:34.600 arguing that there's

00:24:35.500 anything wrong with

00:24:36.180 paid family leave

00:24:37.080 itself.

00:24:37.840 Paid family leave

00:24:38.500 is great.

00:24:39.980 You're just arguing

00:24:40.940 that the government

00:24:41.540 shouldn't mandate

00:24:42.440 it.

00:24:44.380 That's the point.

00:24:46.480 Just like, I

00:24:47.820 don't think that the

00:24:48.500 government should be

00:24:49.080 involved in health

00:24:49.800 care.

00:24:50.180 I'm not against

00:24:51.100 health care.

00:24:51.700 I think health care

00:24:52.220 is great.

00:24:53.160 I think it's great

00:24:53.760 for people to go to

00:24:54.240 the doctor.

00:24:54.720 I think everyone,

00:24:55.180 it's a wonderful

00:24:56.840 thing.

00:24:57.460 Modern medicine is a

00:24:58.500 wonderful thing.

00:24:59.780 I just don't think

00:25:00.280 the government should

00:25:00.900 be involved in it.

00:25:03.720 But there's that

00:25:04.800 nuance, that really

00:25:06.920 obvious and important

00:25:08.240 nuance, right?

00:25:09.240 That obvious

00:25:10.260 distinction that

00:25:12.200 many people in our

00:25:13.240 country today don't

00:25:14.740 understand.

00:25:15.580 They don't understand

00:25:16.800 the difference between

00:25:18.600 opposing something in

00:25:20.180 and of itself and

00:25:23.440 opposing the

00:25:24.360 government's

00:25:24.900 involvement in

00:25:27.220 that thing.

00:25:28.860 They cannot

00:25:31.640 comprehend the

00:25:32.620 difference.

00:25:33.960 And that's why we

00:25:37.160 just, instead of,

00:25:38.220 we need to get

00:25:39.740 control of the

00:25:40.260 entitlement state,

00:25:41.120 we need to get

00:25:43.220 control of our debt

00:25:44.000 problem.

00:25:44.720 That's what we need

00:25:45.420 to do.

00:25:45.840 But instead, we keep

00:25:46.660 going in the opposite

00:25:47.360 direction.

00:25:47.800 more debt and

00:25:48.600 more entitlement.

00:25:51.640 And a lot of it is

00:25:53.240 because of this

00:25:53.880 fundamental confusion

00:25:55.060 that plagues many,

00:25:57.800 many voters.

00:26:01.940 All right, let's

00:26:03.940 see.

00:26:05.440 Something else I

00:26:06.340 wanted to mention.

00:26:09.740 Maybe I'll save

00:26:10.280 this for tomorrow.

00:26:11.460 But Sean Oakman

00:26:13.620 is a former

00:26:14.640 football player

00:26:17.140 at Baylor

00:26:17.620 University.

00:26:18.880 And he was

00:26:19.480 supposed to be

00:26:21.560 potentially a

00:26:23.400 first-round draft

00:26:24.360 pick in the NFL.

00:26:25.080 NFL, but he

00:26:26.620 was accused

00:26:28.400 of and

00:26:28.960 charged with

00:26:29.740 raping a 0.91

00:26:30.620 woman.

00:26:31.680 And this was

00:26:32.460 like two or

00:26:32.880 three years

00:26:33.240 ago.

00:26:34.200 And it

00:26:34.720 completely

00:26:35.040 derailed his

00:26:35.640 career.

00:26:36.000 He wasn't

00:26:36.300 drafted by the

00:26:37.000 NFL.

00:26:38.380 So he's been

00:26:38.800 out of football

00:26:39.300 now for three

00:26:40.020 years.

00:26:41.040 And just a

00:26:42.020 couple of days

00:26:42.560 ago, he was

00:26:43.440 found not guilty

00:26:44.400 of sexual

00:26:46.060 assault.

00:26:47.900 And whether

00:26:50.440 or not he'll

00:26:51.000 be able to

00:26:51.740 get his

00:26:53.220 career back

00:26:53.900 remains to be

00:26:54.660 seen.

00:26:55.760 But this is

00:26:56.480 an interesting

00:26:56.980 case.

00:26:58.500 And it

00:26:58.800 shows the

00:26:59.680 consequences

00:27:03.280 of an

00:27:04.700 accusation,

00:27:05.520 even if it's

00:27:06.560 a false

00:27:07.360 accusation.

00:27:08.700 But I think

00:27:09.140 we'll, because

00:27:10.660 there are a few

00:27:11.020 interesting emails

00:27:11.700 I want to get

00:27:12.140 to, I think

00:27:12.700 we'll save

00:27:13.060 that discussion

00:27:13.580 for tomorrow.

00:27:15.160 Because I want

00:27:15.720 to get into

00:27:16.100 that in more

00:27:17.380 detail, into

00:27:18.420 the specifics

00:27:18.980 of this particular

00:27:20.260 case.

00:27:21.400 Let's go to

00:27:21.900 emails.

00:27:22.220 mattwalsshow

00:27:23.400 at gmail.com,

00:27:24.460 mattwalsshow

00:27:24.980 at gmail.com

00:27:25.900 is the email

00:27:26.380 address.

00:27:27.940 This is from

00:27:28.900 Matt.

00:27:30.200 We had a

00:27:30.600 Matt write

00:27:31.000 in yesterday,

00:27:31.680 so the

00:27:32.680 Matt's are

00:27:33.080 all uniting.

00:27:33.680 I think

00:27:33.820 that's great.

00:27:34.640 This is from

00:27:34.920 a different

00:27:35.220 Matt.

00:27:35.520 He says,

00:27:35.860 you talked

00:27:36.160 at length

00:27:36.540 today about

00:27:37.060 how

00:27:37.520 Alexandria

00:27:38.260 Cezo-Cortez

00:27:38.920 does not

00:27:39.660 appear to

00:27:40.040 take her

00:27:40.360 own doomsday

00:27:41.120 prophecies

00:27:41.720 seriously

00:27:42.360 because she

00:27:43.360 continues to

00:27:44.280 utilize

00:27:44.900 supposedly

00:27:45.520 world-ending

00:27:46.100 technologies.

00:27:47.800 If she

00:27:48.000 really thought

00:27:48.560 cars and

00:27:49.160 planes were

00:27:49.600 destroying the

00:27:50.080 planet,

00:27:50.440 you say,

00:27:50.780 she'd be

00:27:51.080 screaming at the

00:27:51.620 top of her

00:27:51.980 lungs in fear

00:27:52.740 and or anger

00:27:53.520 or at least

00:27:54.460 taking the

00:27:54.880 metro more

00:27:55.360 often.

00:27:56.300 I couldn't

00:27:56.620 help but notice

00:27:57.120 a correlation

00:27:57.700 between the

00:27:58.260 way AOC

00:27:58.940 chooses to

00:27:59.600 live despite

00:28:00.060 her beliefs

00:28:00.580 and the way

00:28:00.980 pro-lifers live

00:28:02.040 despite theirs.

00:28:02.860 I, for

00:28:03.120 instance,

00:28:03.920 am pro-life

00:28:04.520 above all

00:28:05.020 else,

00:28:05.980 which means

00:28:09.260 I truly do

00:28:09.980 believe that

00:28:10.820 60 million

00:28:11.400 innocent human

00:28:11.960 beings have

00:28:12.580 been legally

00:28:13.060 killed over

00:28:13.520 the last

00:28:13.840 quarter century.

00:28:14.460 one might

00:28:15.720 suggest that

00:28:16.480 given this

00:28:17.040 horrifying

00:28:17.560 injustice,

00:28:18.880 I ought to

00:28:19.560 be tirelessly

00:28:20.460 rioting in

00:28:21.180 the streets.

00:28:22.240 While I do

00:28:22.880 dedicate a good

00:28:23.500 amount of

00:28:23.840 time to

00:28:24.140 activism,

00:28:24.760 certainly I

00:28:25.180 could be

00:28:25.420 doing much,

00:28:26.020 much more.

00:28:27.220 Simply put,

00:28:29.220 practicality plays

00:28:30.140 a big role in

00:28:30.820 the time I

00:28:31.360 spend marching

00:28:32.060 or writing.

00:28:33.420 How much

00:28:33.700 difference could

00:28:34.740 I, a single

00:28:35.500 person, truly

00:28:36.120 make?

00:28:36.760 Is it worth

00:28:37.300 sacrificing a

00:28:38.100 family, a

00:28:38.720 job?

00:28:39.680 I think that

00:28:40.320 to some

00:28:40.660 extent, climate

00:28:41.540 change activists

00:28:42.280 could use this

00:28:43.060 same excuse.

00:28:44.360 The problem,

00:28:44.880 according to

00:28:45.160 them, is so

00:28:45.720 massive that

00:28:46.720 their individual

00:28:47.360 contribution or

00:28:48.260 sacrifice is

00:28:48.960 negligible.

00:28:50.060 Is it worth the

00:28:50.820 massive inconvenience?

00:28:52.100 Will they really

00:28:52.660 make that much of

00:28:53.440 a difference?

00:28:54.220 Let me know what

00:28:54.600 you think.

00:28:54.940 Love the show.

00:28:55.440 Keep up the

00:28:55.720 great work.

00:28:57.440 I think that is

00:28:58.340 an excellent

00:28:58.800 point, and I

00:29:00.140 totally agree that

00:29:01.120 pro-lifers often

00:29:02.460 don't live like they

00:29:03.660 believe what they're

00:29:04.360 saying.

00:29:05.880 And that's a

00:29:06.700 problem.

00:29:07.560 They don't do

00:29:08.420 enough.

00:29:08.640 We don't do

00:29:09.320 enough.

00:29:09.600 I don't do

00:29:10.040 enough.

00:29:11.320 And you're

00:29:12.320 absolutely right

00:29:12.880 about that.

00:29:14.580 But I think

00:29:15.540 there is a

00:29:16.060 difference between

00:29:18.280 the case of the

00:29:19.400 pro-lifers who

00:29:20.360 are not involved

00:29:21.400 enough in

00:29:21.940 activism and

00:29:22.800 in fighting the

00:29:23.400 cause and

00:29:24.560 this.

00:29:25.780 Okay?

00:29:26.700 Environmentalists,

00:29:27.280 at least the

00:29:27.700 ones like Ocasio

00:29:29.240 Cortez, the

00:29:29.940 extremist ones,

00:29:31.520 they believe that

00:29:34.640 things like cars

00:29:35.720 and planes are

00:29:37.420 directly causing

00:29:38.620 directly bringing

00:29:39.840 about the end of

00:29:41.800 the world.

00:29:42.500 Okay?

00:29:43.820 Cortez says that

00:29:44.880 the world is going

00:29:45.540 to end in 12

00:29:46.740 years.

00:29:47.680 So there's a

00:29:48.700 difference between

00:29:49.380 choosing not to

00:29:50.620 actively take steps

00:29:51.560 to address the

00:29:52.220 issue that you

00:29:52.760 claim to care

00:29:53.400 about, which

00:29:53.880 many pro-lifers

00:29:54.680 are guilty of,

00:29:55.860 and on the other

00:29:56.920 hand, continuing to

00:29:58.600 do a thing that

00:29:59.920 you claim is going

00:30:01.200 to destroy all

00:30:02.360 human life in a

00:30:03.300 very short amount

00:30:04.040 of time.

00:30:04.900 So I think that

00:30:05.740 there's a difference

00:30:06.480 between those two

00:30:07.440 things.

00:30:08.720 In other words,

00:30:09.820 I'm not blaming

00:30:10.860 environmentalists for

00:30:13.940 their lack of

00:30:14.900 activism.

00:30:15.660 That's not my

00:30:16.180 point.

00:30:17.180 I'm not saying

00:30:18.220 that environmentalists

00:30:19.120 should be out there

00:30:19.780 doing more

00:30:20.220 activism, marching

00:30:21.820 more, and all that

00:30:22.620 kind of stuff.

00:30:26.360 I'm not blaming

00:30:27.280 them for what

00:30:27.760 they're not doing.

00:30:29.820 I'm blaming them

00:30:30.940 for what they

00:30:31.640 continue to do,

00:30:32.880 which is to

00:30:34.360 directly contribute

00:30:35.280 to the destruction

00:30:36.200 of human

00:30:36.660 civilization, in

00:30:37.900 their minds

00:30:38.420 anyway.

00:30:40.600 So I just

00:30:41.400 think, you

00:30:42.520 know, as a

00:30:42.840 pro-lifer, you

00:30:43.460 might stop and

00:30:44.560 say to yourself,

00:30:45.140 I could be doing

00:30:45.940 more, I need to

00:30:46.580 be out there

00:30:47.100 more, and that's

00:30:48.280 true, we could

00:30:48.740 all be doing

00:30:49.200 more.

00:30:50.660 But if you are

00:30:51.680 an environmental

00:30:52.440 extremist, and

00:30:55.900 you really

00:30:58.020 believe that

00:31:00.380 because we

00:31:02.820 drive around in

00:31:03.940 cars and use

00:31:04.800 fossil fuels, the

00:31:06.000 world is going to

00:31:06.920 come to an end.

00:31:10.960 It's one thing to

00:31:12.100 not go out in the

00:31:13.000 streets screaming

00:31:13.720 about it, which I'm

00:31:14.700 kind of happy that

00:31:15.380 they don't do.

00:31:16.520 They do it

00:31:17.120 sometimes, but if

00:31:18.960 they want to cut

00:31:19.440 back on that, I'm

00:31:20.000 fine.

00:31:21.460 There's a difference

00:31:21.940 between that and

00:31:22.540 then, on the other

00:31:23.780 hand, actually

00:31:24.440 getting into a car

00:31:25.780 and driving around

00:31:27.520 in it, while

00:31:29.800 thinking that you

00:31:31.000 are directly

00:31:32.120 contributing to

00:31:34.880 the end of

00:31:35.540 human, maybe in a

00:31:36.500 very small way, but

00:31:37.280 you are directly

00:31:38.100 contributing to the

00:31:38.780 end of human

00:31:39.420 civilization.

00:31:40.180 I just, I can't

00:31:41.280 imagine doing that.

00:31:43.820 I think another

00:31:45.300 way of looking at

00:31:45.860 this is if you're

00:31:48.480 an environmental

00:31:49.060 activist who

00:31:51.080 believes this,

00:31:52.160 then you must

00:31:53.900 conclude that it

00:31:55.860 is objectively

00:31:57.060 morally wrong

00:31:58.280 to drive a

00:32:00.000 car.

00:32:02.220 How could it

00:32:02.980 not be?

00:32:04.780 If the world is

00:32:05.720 ending in 12

00:32:06.640 years because of

00:32:07.520 this kind of

00:32:07.960 thing, it must be

00:32:09.220 objectively wrong

00:32:10.200 to do it, and

00:32:11.600 yet you continue

00:32:12.540 to do it.

00:32:13.400 And so,

00:32:14.340 so yeah, I

00:32:17.220 think that there

00:32:18.100 is, their 0.82

00:32:19.280 hypocrisy, I 0.92

00:32:20.340 think, is

00:32:20.780 quite a bit

00:32:22.640 more extreme

00:32:24.920 and pervasive.

00:32:26.580 This is from

00:32:27.680 Fish.

00:32:28.920 He says,

00:32:29.500 Hi, Matt,

00:32:29.980 huge fan of the

00:32:30.500 show.

00:32:31.700 Thank you for

00:32:32.080 your comments on

00:32:32.720 Michael Jackson.

00:32:33.480 I agree that his

00:32:34.220 legacy should be

00:32:34.880 ruined because of

00:32:35.540 his atrocities.

00:32:36.720 However, when

00:32:37.320 someone on Twitter

00:32:38.040 pointed out that

00:32:38.840 one of your

00:32:39.280 favorite authors

00:32:39.900 had a history of

00:32:40.660 stalking and

00:32:41.260 harassment, you 0.99

00:32:42.500 said, if you

00:32:43.900 only like artists

00:32:45.020 without demons,

00:32:46.120 you are really

00:32:46.720 limiting yourself.

00:32:48.000 How do you

00:32:48.520 reconcile those two

00:32:49.400 views?

00:32:49.820 Where do you

00:32:50.160 draw the line on

00:32:51.140 what demons are

00:32:51.880 acceptable and what

00:32:52.840 aren't?

00:32:53.200 Thank you.

00:32:55.180 Another great

00:32:55.880 point.

00:32:57.320 I think if I

00:32:58.400 remember that

00:32:58.940 conversation on

00:32:59.620 Twitter from

00:33:00.180 months ago, I

00:33:00.820 think that was in

00:33:01.520 reference to, I

00:33:05.680 think that was in

00:33:06.080 reference to David

00:33:06.740 Foster Wallace, I

00:33:07.840 believe, correct me

00:33:08.560 if I'm wrong, which

00:33:09.740 is one of my

00:33:10.360 favorite writers.

00:33:11.980 And he had a lot

00:33:13.120 of demons.

00:33:13.640 I mean, the guy

00:33:14.100 killed himself.

00:33:14.860 So he certainly

00:33:15.680 had a lot of

00:33:16.200 demons.

00:33:16.520 There's no 0.77

00:33:16.780 question about

00:33:17.340 that.

00:33:18.200 And he was

00:33:19.060 accused of, I

00:33:20.400 believe, essentially

00:33:21.200 stalking and

00:33:22.640 harassing another

00:33:23.580 author who he

00:33:25.080 was infatuated

00:33:27.560 with.

00:33:28.300 And I think he

00:33:28.920 had a relationship

00:33:29.480 with her on and

00:33:31.100 off again.

00:33:31.640 I'm pretty sure.

00:33:33.740 Anyway, I guess

00:33:34.800 the way that I

00:33:35.380 reconcile this is

00:33:37.700 by taking into

00:33:38.440 account two

00:33:39.140 factors.

00:33:40.600 One is the

00:33:41.800 severity of the

00:33:42.680 claim against the

00:33:44.380 person, the

00:33:44.920 seriousness of the

00:33:45.940 demon that we're

00:33:46.480 talking about, and

00:33:47.980 two, the value of

00:33:49.380 their art.

00:33:49.840 And then also

00:33:51.140 three, I guess I'll

00:33:51.820 take a third thing

00:33:52.340 into consideration,

00:33:53.960 and that would be

00:33:54.620 time.

00:33:55.820 Like, how long ago

00:33:56.840 did this person

00:33:57.580 live?

00:33:57.920 I do think that

00:33:58.720 matters.

00:33:59.140 Now, Wallace and

00:33:59.840 Michael Jackson, they

00:34:00.640 both lived and died

00:34:01.440 around the same

00:34:02.000 time.

00:34:02.520 So that isn't a

00:34:03.440 factor in this

00:34:04.060 discussion, in this

00:34:04.820 comparison.

00:34:05.720 But I do think that

00:34:06.860 the historical

00:34:07.500 proximity of the

00:34:10.440 person's life

00:34:11.860 matters to some

00:34:13.000 extent.

00:34:13.380 because if they

00:34:15.620 did a horrible

00:34:16.180 thing and their

00:34:18.560 victims are still

00:34:19.920 around and still

00:34:22.320 affected by it, then

00:34:24.680 I do think you

00:34:25.500 weigh that as

00:34:26.200 opposed to

00:34:26.980 someone, let's 0.96

00:34:28.180 say some

00:34:28.560 Renaissance artist

00:34:29.440 who lived and

00:34:31.800 died 400 years

00:34:32.840 ago.

00:34:34.500 And so, anyway,

00:34:35.240 but let's focus

00:34:35.820 on points one and

00:34:36.500 two.

00:34:37.880 I guess as far

00:34:39.280 as one goes, I

00:34:40.980 just think that

00:34:41.800 serial child

00:34:42.780 molestation is in

00:34:44.560 a whole different

00:34:45.520 league than

00:34:47.560 what, from what

00:34:48.620 someone like

00:34:49.400 Wallace was

00:34:50.020 accused of

00:34:50.540 doing.

00:34:52.000 I mean, there

00:34:52.820 are demons and

00:34:55.120 then there's being 0.98

00:34:55.660 a pedophile. 0.68

00:34:56.800 And I just think 0.97

00:34:58.200 that the two

00:34:59.080 things aren't even

00:34:59.780 close.

00:35:00.860 If Wallace was

00:35:01.960 guilty of stalking

00:35:02.960 and harassing a

00:35:03.960 woman or even

00:35:05.260 being abusive at

00:35:06.120 various points of

00:35:06.640 his life, that

00:35:07.660 matters.

00:35:08.180 I mean, it's

00:35:08.480 bad, but it

00:35:10.160 just doesn't come

00:35:10.880 anywhere close to

00:35:11.940 seeking,

00:35:12.380 grooming, and 1.00

00:35:13.400 then raping 1.00

00:35:14.220 seven-year-old 1.00

00:35:14.940 boys.

00:35:15.580 It's just, it's

00:35:16.380 not in the

00:35:17.180 same league.

00:35:18.860 It's just, it's

00:35:19.700 that you can't

00:35:21.340 even compare

00:35:22.060 them.

00:35:23.040 You can't even

00:35:24.080 put them on the

00:35:24.700 same Venn diagram.

00:35:26.040 And if you did,

00:35:26.960 there's not going

00:35:27.420 to really be

00:35:28.080 hardly anything in

00:35:28.900 that middle

00:35:29.320 bubble, right?

00:35:32.560 So, yes, I

00:35:33.740 think we have to

00:35:34.360 allow for the

00:35:35.080 fact that artists

00:35:36.020 have demons.

00:35:37.160 Everybody does.

00:35:37.940 Everyone is

00:35:38.440 flawed.

00:35:39.340 And artists,

00:35:40.120 especially per the

00:35:41.020 stereotype, tend to

00:35:41.920 be kind of

00:35:42.440 messed up.

00:35:43.380 We know that. 0.99

00:35:45.000 But child rape, 0.97

00:35:46.180 again, is 0.94

00:35:46.640 something, something

00:35:49.180 entirely different.

00:35:51.620 That's worse than

00:35:52.540 murder in my mind.

00:35:54.360 It is literally the

00:35:55.740 worst thing a person

00:35:56.680 can do.

00:35:57.520 The worst.

00:35:59.240 So where's the

00:36:00.080 line?

00:36:00.460 I don't know

00:36:01.000 exactly, but I

00:36:02.460 think the line is

00:36:03.480 somewhere before you

00:36:04.980 get to the worst

00:36:05.780 possible thing.

00:36:06.660 So Michael Jackson

00:36:07.460 did the worst

00:36:08.880 possible thing.

00:36:10.160 He was the worst 0.99

00:36:11.100 kind of person 0.99

00:36:12.300 that can exist.

00:36:17.920 And, yeah, there's

00:36:19.940 at some point you

00:36:21.000 cross a line, and

00:36:22.300 wherever that line

00:36:23.380 is, I don't know

00:36:23.920 exactly, but I am

00:36:24.820 positive that Michael

00:36:26.480 Jackson is on the

00:36:27.440 wrong side of it.

00:36:28.840 And then factor two,

00:36:30.320 I guess we don't even

00:36:30.960 need to discuss, but it

00:36:32.340 does matter.

00:36:33.160 I think Wallace was

00:36:34.640 not just a genius, but

00:36:36.440 someone who had a

00:36:37.120 profound insight into

00:36:38.200 the human condition.

00:36:39.280 He wrote things that

00:36:40.000 were often hilarious,

00:36:41.120 startling, poignant,

00:36:42.080 sometimes beautiful.

00:36:43.580 And so you do weigh

00:36:45.240 that.

00:36:46.940 You have to think, do

00:36:48.260 we want to throw this

00:36:49.240 away?

00:36:50.480 Can we afford to

00:36:51.820 throw this away?

00:36:52.860 Or is it too

00:36:53.680 valuable?

00:36:55.300 So whatever

00:36:56.220 Michelangelo is

00:36:57.460 accused of doing,

00:36:58.860 well, we cannot

00:36:59.820 afford to get rid

00:37:01.640 of the Sistine

00:37:02.240 Chapel or the

00:37:03.320 Piedra.

00:37:04.880 As a species, we

00:37:06.160 just can't afford

00:37:06.880 it.

00:37:07.120 It's too

00:37:07.620 beautiful, too

00:37:08.340 powerful, too

00:37:09.600 valuable, that

00:37:11.300 art stands on

00:37:12.780 its own, has

00:37:14.280 taken on a life

00:37:15.120 of its own, and

00:37:17.040 we can't be

00:37:17.680 without it.

00:37:18.460 It would be a

00:37:19.620 tragedy for the

00:37:20.860 human race if the

00:37:22.960 Sistine Chapel were

00:37:23.820 to crumble.

00:37:26.380 And the fact that

00:37:27.220 he lived 500 years

00:37:28.100 ago I think also

00:37:28.740 makes a difference

00:37:29.380 in my opinion.

00:37:30.500 So we have to

00:37:31.060 ask, I guess, is

00:37:33.640 thriller or

00:37:36.160 Billie Jean or

00:37:39.680 Beat It, are

00:37:41.580 these things so

00:37:42.580 incredible, so

00:37:44.560 beautiful, so

00:37:46.440 powerful, so

00:37:47.700 absolutely staggering

00:37:49.540 in their genius that

00:37:50.980 even serial child 0.61

00:37:52.720 rape, even 0.92

00:37:54.460 serial child rape,

00:37:55.460 which occurred as

00:37:56.260 recently as this past

00:37:57.320 decade, couldn't

00:37:58.440 cause us to stop

00:37:59.380 enjoying it.

00:37:59.980 I would say

00:38:02.160 no.

00:38:05.780 That's my

00:38:06.320 opinion.

00:38:07.180 Finally, from

00:38:07.840 Travis, he says,

00:38:08.760 Hi, Matt, I

00:38:09.260 always enjoy hearing

00:38:09.940 your perspective on

00:38:10.660 all things related to

00:38:11.660 the Bible and

00:38:12.340 especially enjoyed your

00:38:13.180 commentary on the

00:38:14.440 young earth theory.

00:38:15.860 Well, that makes one

00:38:16.820 of you, Travis.

00:38:20.160 In searching for

00:38:21.040 related topics, I

00:38:22.140 stumbled upon Dr.

00:38:23.800 Frank Turek of

00:38:24.720 Cross-Examined.

00:38:26.180 He seems to have a

00:38:26.900 good approach for

00:38:27.740 defending the Christian

00:38:28.480 faith.

00:38:28.860 Just curious if you

00:38:29.640 have read his

00:38:30.140 book, I Don't

00:38:31.380 Have Enough Faith

00:38:32.040 to Be an Atheist,

00:38:33.280 and hope to get

00:38:33.960 your thoughts on

00:38:34.500 his arguments.

00:38:36.540 I am familiar with

00:38:37.720 Frank Turek.

00:38:38.500 I haven't read his

00:38:39.120 book, but I've seen

00:38:40.040 some of his lectures

00:38:41.700 and some of his

00:38:42.780 debates.

00:38:43.880 I think he's a

00:38:44.220 brilliant guy, great

00:38:45.040 debater, very

00:38:45.680 impressive in that

00:38:46.420 format.

00:38:48.280 Now, I will say,

00:38:49.360 though, that I have

00:38:50.160 grown to really

00:38:51.120 dislike that

00:38:53.340 particular argument,

00:38:54.760 which is in the

00:38:55.300 title of his book,

00:38:56.300 I Don't Have Enough

00:38:57.120 Faith to Be an

00:38:57.760 Atheist, right?

00:38:58.900 And I know that

00:38:59.500 this is a theme

00:39:00.160 that Turek hammers

00:39:01.940 on all the time.

00:39:02.540 A lot of Christian

00:39:03.200 apologists, especially

00:39:04.180 these days, it's kind

00:39:05.040 of a common thing,

00:39:06.840 especially in modern

00:39:07.820 times among Christian

00:39:08.760 apologists, where they

00:39:10.340 say this thing about,

00:39:11.540 no, no, no,

00:39:12.260 atheists are the ones 1.00

00:39:13.720 who have faith.

00:39:14.940 They have too much

00:39:15.860 faith.

00:39:16.400 It takes more faith to

00:39:17.580 be an atheist than it 0.97

00:39:18.400 does to be a Christian.

00:39:19.080 I guess in Christian

00:39:22.060 apologetics, this has

00:39:23.340 been determined to be

00:39:24.440 some kind of very

00:39:25.420 powerful argument, and

00:39:27.940 I disagree.

00:39:29.840 Now, there are some

00:39:32.500 arguments that

00:39:33.240 Christians and atheists 0.99

00:39:34.340 make which the other

00:39:36.260 side finds formidable

00:39:38.140 and serious.

00:39:38.920 So, as a Christian, I

00:39:41.420 think that the atheist

00:39:42.580 arguments, arguments

00:39:44.760 like the argument from

00:39:45.600 suffering, the argument

00:39:47.160 from divine hiddenness,

00:39:48.720 these are formidable and

00:39:50.600 serious arguments from

00:39:52.260 atheists that Christians 1.00

00:39:54.240 have to grapple with.

00:39:55.840 And on the other side, I

00:39:57.380 know that even guys like

00:39:58.360 Richard Dawkins have

00:39:59.320 admitted that the fine

00:40:00.360 tuning argument, the

00:40:02.680 arguments about these

00:40:03.640 universal constants, which

00:40:05.440 make life possible, and

00:40:07.700 which seem, it seems so

00:40:09.760 highly improbable that they

00:40:11.080 could have happened on

00:40:11.780 their own.

00:40:12.120 Now, even someone like

00:40:13.040 Richard Dawkins has said

00:40:14.060 that that is a serious

00:40:15.400 argument.

00:40:16.840 But then there are

00:40:18.200 arguments that both sides

00:40:19.640 make, which the other

00:40:21.320 sides just roll their eyes

00:40:22.960 at and treat with total

00:40:24.180 disregard and contempt

00:40:25.380 because they find it to 1.00

00:40:26.380 be lazy and ridiculous. 0.99

00:40:28.640 So, as a Christian, that's 1.00

00:40:29.860 how I treat the whole

00:40:30.940 bit about God as a

00:40:33.260 magical sky fairy, right?

00:40:35.120 Christians, as an

00:40:37.440 atheist, the moment you

00:40:38.460 say that, the moment you

00:40:39.400 make that argument, every

00:40:41.260 Christian tunes you out 1.00

00:40:42.460 because it's so ridiculous, 1.00

00:40:44.380 it's so silly, it's a 1.00

00:40:45.720 childish, off-base 0.98

00:40:47.280 characterization that we

00:40:49.040 cannot possibly take

00:40:50.220 seriously.

00:40:51.000 But on the other side, I

00:40:53.660 know that atheists feel

00:40:54.880 that way about the, it

00:40:56.560 takes more faith to be an

00:40:57.760 atheist argument.

00:41:00.260 That's just not an

00:41:01.560 argument that any

00:41:03.180 atheist anywhere takes

00:41:05.400 seriously.

00:41:06.020 I would challenge you to

00:41:07.560 find one single atheist

00:41:08.960 who will say that he is,

00:41:11.280 that he's stopped in his

00:41:12.240 track by that argument.

00:41:13.660 There's not going to be an

00:41:14.320 atheist who says, well,

00:41:15.100 wait a minute, it does

00:41:16.200 take more faith for me to

00:41:17.200 be an atheist.

00:41:17.720 No, what they do when they

00:41:21.420 hear that argument is they

00:41:22.220 just roll their eyes and

00:41:23.260 they say, okay, all right,

00:41:24.720 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

00:41:25.480 yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:27.280 That's because the whole

00:41:28.300 point of atheism is that

00:41:31.700 they're saying to us, okay,

00:41:34.700 you've made a claim about the

00:41:36.180 Christian God, about Jesus,

00:41:38.880 about scripture, and so on,

00:41:41.460 and we've listened to you and

00:41:43.900 we don't believe your claim.

00:41:45.900 We don't accept it.

00:41:47.060 We just don't believe it.

00:41:48.940 We don't think you've met

00:41:50.220 the burden of proof.

00:41:51.120 We are declining to believe

00:41:53.040 what you are saying.

00:41:56.960 Much in the same way that

00:41:58.600 we as Christians will listen

00:42:01.180 to a Muslim and say, okay, 0.99

00:42:02.840 I hear what you're saying

00:42:03.640 about Muhammad and the

00:42:04.980 Quran, but I don't believe.

00:42:06.660 I do not believe what you're

00:42:08.440 saying.

00:42:08.740 That is not what I believe.

00:42:10.460 I am declining to believe in

00:42:13.660 Muhammad the prophet and in

00:42:15.660 Allah, I'm declining to

00:42:17.140 believe that.

00:42:19.720 Now, obviously, I think that

00:42:21.660 atheists should believe what 0.99

00:42:25.600 we're saying.

00:42:26.060 I think that there are good

00:42:27.000 reasons to believe what we

00:42:28.140 believe, obviously, but

00:42:29.960 declining to believe a claim

00:42:32.000 does not require faith.

00:42:34.800 It requires the lack of faith.

00:42:36.600 It's the opposite of faith.

00:42:39.900 Declining to believe what

00:42:40.880 someone is saying, that means

00:42:42.200 that you don't have faith in

00:42:43.640 what they're saying.

00:42:44.820 Maybe you should have faith

00:42:45.960 in it, but you don't.

00:42:48.060 That's the point.

00:42:49.820 And if we have any chance of

00:42:50.960 communicating with atheists and

00:42:52.420 maybe even convincing them, we

00:42:53.920 need to show that we

00:42:55.560 understand their basic

00:42:57.240 position.

00:42:57.940 You can't engage with someone

00:42:59.740 if you don't, if you're

00:43:02.360 refusing to understand what

00:43:03.820 they're saying to you.

00:43:06.300 And it's the same for them.

00:43:07.680 So that's why it totally

00:43:09.900 shuts down the conversation the

00:43:11.480 moment that an atheist goes, oh, 0.89

00:43:13.080 you just believe in a magical

00:43:14.180 sky fairy, because then as

00:43:15.420 Christians, we say, you're not 1.00

00:43:16.660 listening to us.

00:43:17.680 You're just not listening.

00:43:18.520 That's not what we're saying.

00:43:19.760 We don't believe that.

00:43:21.500 And if you insist on painting

00:43:23.440 our views in that way, we can't

00:43:25.060 have a conversation.

00:43:25.740 It's not going to work.

00:43:29.500 And it's the same thing on the

00:43:30.700 other side where atheists are

00:43:31.580 saying, no, no, that's not what

00:43:32.880 we're saying.

00:43:33.240 We're not saying that we have

00:43:34.200 faith in some other proposition.

00:43:37.020 We're just declining to believe

00:43:38.820 your proposition.

00:43:41.840 And so when a Christian says, 0.94

00:43:43.140 yeah, but you must have a lot

00:43:44.060 of faith to do that, the

00:43:45.840 atheists, all they say is, okay, 0.99

00:43:47.500 you're not listening to me.

00:43:48.520 And so that's why atheists and 0.99

00:43:49.680 Christians, they end up walking 1.00

00:43:50.480 away from each other because the

00:43:51.840 one side is saying, sky fairy.

00:43:53.200 The other side is saying, you

00:43:54.180 have more faith than us.

00:43:55.160 And then both just walk away and

00:43:56.540 say, all right, you know, it's,

00:44:01.440 I just believe strongly we need to

00:44:03.400 listen to what the other side,

00:44:04.580 just listen to it, listen to the

00:44:06.000 argument they're making at least,

00:44:07.200 and then you can engage with it.

00:44:10.700 So no, atheists don't have faith.

00:44:12.460 Atheists have a lack of faith by 1.00

00:44:14.260 definition, right?

00:44:18.240 And here's my other problem.

00:44:19.940 Not only is the atheists have more 1.00

00:44:22.480 faith than us thing, kind of a

00:44:23.980 mischaracterization and a straw man,

00:44:26.440 but here's the biggest problem.

00:44:28.600 It also turns faith into a dirty

00:44:31.060 word.

00:44:32.520 It seems almost that we're ashamed

00:44:35.420 to have faith.

00:44:36.880 And so we're saying, we don't have

00:44:38.880 faith, you do.

00:44:40.420 We're not the ones with faith, you're

00:44:41.960 the ones with faith.

00:44:44.320 Why even get into that competition?

00:44:46.580 Why are we ashamed of it?

00:44:47.820 We should be saying, yes, we do it.

00:44:49.420 You don't have faith, we do.

00:44:50.840 We're proud of it.

00:44:51.600 We're proud to have faith.

00:44:54.000 We shouldn't be trying to prove to

00:44:55.480 them that they have more faith than

00:44:56.880 us, that that is, that faith is a

00:44:59.260 virtue, right?

00:44:59.860 Why would we even be doing that?

00:45:01.460 And faith, faith must be more than

00:45:08.080 an assumption, you know, a best

00:45:14.420 guess based on the evidence, you

00:45:17.700 know, it's more than that.

00:45:19.300 We believe that faith is basically

00:45:22.640 the testimony of the Holy Spirit

00:45:25.680 within us, right?

00:45:27.220 It is the internal testimony of the

00:45:29.240 Holy Spirit.

00:45:29.640 That's what faith is.

00:45:32.980 So when we believe in God, it's not

00:45:35.960 just about having weighed the

00:45:37.840 evidence, it is also about the

00:45:39.260 internal testimony, and that's what

00:45:41.840 faith is.

00:45:43.140 So when we say that atheists have 1.00

00:45:45.220 faith, what are we saying?

00:45:46.220 That their own internal testimony

00:45:47.860 from the Holy Spirit is that God

00:45:48.880 doesn't exist?

00:45:49.360 That doesn't make any sense.

00:45:52.060 So, yeah, I appreciate him, I

00:45:55.000 appreciate a lot of Christian

00:45:56.020 apologists.

00:45:56.580 I just think that I read a lot of

00:45:59.460 this stuff, and I watch a lot of,

00:46:02.480 you know, lectures and things from

00:46:04.360 Christian apologists.

00:46:06.000 I watch a lot of debates, you know,

00:46:07.440 I'm basically obsessed with all this

00:46:08.840 stuff.

00:46:10.140 And there are certain arguments that

00:46:11.780 I've just come to, maybe loathe is

00:46:15.060 too strong a term, but I've come to

00:46:16.740 really dislike, because I find them to

00:46:19.420 be so incredibly ineffective.

00:46:21.520 Um, and, uh, and that's, that's one

00:46:26.040 of them.

00:46:26.340 But thanks for the email.

00:46:27.460 Thanks, everybody, for watching.

00:46:28.380 We'll leave it there.

00:46:29.520 Godspeed.

00:46:29.920 Hey, everybody, it's Andrew Klavan,

00:46:38.120 host of The Andrew Klavan Show.

00:46:40.100 You know, the media is trying to

00:46:41.660 cover up for Democrat

00:46:42.700 anti-Semitism by saying it's a

00:46:44.300 problem on both sides, the left and

00:46:46.000 the right.

00:46:46.540 Well, it is on the left and the

00:46:47.700 right, but the right-wing anti-Semites 1.00

00:46:49.740 are lunatics and outsiders. 0.99

00:46:51.780 The left-wing anti-Semites are in 1.00

00:46:53.740 Congress.

00:46:54.240 That's a big, big difference.

00:46:55.800 I'll talk about it on The Andrew

00:46:57.060 Klavan Show.

The Matt Walsh Show - March 06, 2019

Ep. 212 - You're Not Allowed To Dislike Female-Led Action Films, You Sexist

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript