The Matt Walsh Show - March 06, 2019


Ep. 212 - You're Not Allowed To Dislike Female-Led Action Films, You Sexist


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

157.26485

Word Count

7,385

Sentence Count

457

Misogynist Sentences

28

Hate Speech Sentences

32


Summary

In case you hadn t noticed, you're not allowed to dislike female-led action movies, you have to like them no matter what. So with this movie Captain Marvel coming out, feminists are going into overdrive insisting that we like it. We'll discuss that. Also, paid family leave is getting bipartisan support, and I think it's a terrible idea, as bipartisan ideas often are. And finally, at what point should an artist's bad actions cause us to stop enjoying their art? We'll try to get into that question as well today on The Matt Walsh Show.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, in case you hadn't noticed, you're not allowed to dislike female-led action movies.
00:00:06.700 You have to like them no matter what.
00:00:09.040 So with this movie Captain Marvel coming out, a feminist action movie,
00:00:12.740 feminists are going into overdrive insisting that we like it.
00:00:16.260 We have to like it, so we'll discuss that.
00:00:18.420 Also, paid family leave.
00:00:20.520 Mandated paid family leave is getting bipartisan support.
00:00:24.360 I think that it is a terrible idea, as bipartisan ideas often are, and I'll explain why.
00:00:29.200 And finally, at what point should an artist's bad actions, should the bad actions of an artist cause us to stop enjoying their art?
00:00:37.980 We'll try to get into that question as well today on the Matt Walsh Show.
00:00:46.060 One of the dumbest things about our culture, and I hesitate in saying that because I realize it's quite a statement.
00:00:54.720 There are so many dumb things to choose from, but I do believe one of the dumbest is how you aren't allowed to dislike female-led action movies.
00:01:04.800 And that's why Ghostbusters, which is more of an action comedy with big fat scare quotes around action and comedy,
00:01:10.700 but it was critically acclaimed, despite being mediocre at best, and also being an absolute swan dive in terms of quality in comparison to the originals.
00:01:21.600 And that's why Wonder Woman was praised in the kind of effusive, ecstatic, almost poetic terms that we usually reserve for Renaissance art,
00:01:32.760 because that's the way it works.
00:01:34.580 If it's a female action movie and it's bad, then you have to say that it's at least pretty good.
00:01:42.700 But if it's a female action movie that's already pretty good or decent, then it's amazing, incredible, the great, it's a cinematic achievement.
00:01:50.800 Which is why, I mean, Wonder Woman was at most, eh, okay.
00:01:56.600 The most you could possibly say about it in objective terms, but you aren't allowed to be objective when it comes to female action movies.
00:02:03.940 And now Captain Marvel is coming out.
00:02:06.000 The movie Captain Marvel with Brie Larson, the woman who said she doesn't want white men reviewing her movie,
00:02:12.460 and she promises it will be the, and I quote, the biggest feminist movie of all time, which, the biggest feminist movie of all time is a superhero movie,
00:02:23.060 which is literally the worst possible way to sell a superhero movie.
00:02:30.200 You could not think of a worse marketing pitch than that.
00:02:35.920 You may as well try to sell a horror film by saying it's the cutest love story of all time.
00:02:41.120 You're using a sales pitch that is exactly the opposite of what almost everyone in that genre's fan base wants.
00:02:48.960 But that's what Brie Larson said.
00:02:51.460 And in any case, it's a big, big feminist movie, and men aren't allowed to review it.
00:02:57.640 Others have echoed this sentiment.
00:03:00.540 Alyssa Klein is apparently a film journalist, according to her Twitter bio.
00:03:05.760 And she was on Twitter yesterday, blasting the male critics who dared to review this movie.
00:03:13.680 And not just dared to review it, but some of them, if you can believe it, gave it a negative review.
00:03:19.820 And so she was sort of busily posting all of the negative reviews from men
00:03:26.820 and trying to sick her followers on these people for daring to dislike the movie.
00:03:33.180 Meanwhile, a feminist website called The Mary Sue claimed that all of the negative reviews of this movie,
00:03:40.760 which comes out on Friday, all of the negative reviews are from men.
00:03:47.280 This has become a rallying cry among feminists, and as always with these things.
00:03:53.600 But it's not true, by the way.
00:03:56.580 There are plenty of women who have given it negative reviews as well.
00:04:00.960 But just think about the stupidity in the fact that there is even a rallying cry at all around a movie
00:04:08.960 about a magical ninja in a rubber suit who goes around shooting lasers out of her hands or eyes or whatever.
00:04:15.580 I think there are lasers involved, right, with Captain Marvel.
00:04:17.440 I'm not sure.
00:04:18.580 But usually there is with superheroes.
00:04:21.820 Now, there are articles being written about the controversy surrounding Captain Marvel reviews.
00:04:29.620 What's the controversy?
00:04:31.620 Well, the controversy is that some people didn't like it.
00:04:34.500 That's what the controversy is.
00:04:36.980 They didn't like it because, in their opinion, it just wasn't a very good movie.
00:04:40.740 As far as I'm aware, there hasn't been any review written by a man taking issue with the movie
00:04:47.320 because Brie Larson should have been in the kitchen making her man a lasagna
00:04:50.580 rather than messing around with all the superhero stuff.
00:04:52.980 Okay, that's not what anyone is saying.
00:04:55.760 No one is saying, that's man's work, woman.
00:04:58.600 Now, get rid of that cape and put on an apron.
00:05:01.140 That's where you belong.
00:05:02.200 No, that's not what no man is.
00:05:04.140 As far as I know, no man is saying that.
00:05:06.860 It's just some people have said, yeah, you know, it's not a great movie.
00:05:10.620 It's okay.
00:05:11.200 It's just not great.
00:05:11.980 I mean, that's what some people have said.
00:05:13.460 But feminists respond to that criticism with a banshee-like shrieking,
00:05:20.940 which is how they respond to everything.
00:05:22.680 Because you're not allowed to like a movie about a girl kicking butt.
00:05:26.860 If it's a butt-kicking girl movie, you're not allowed to.
00:05:30.840 You have to like it.
00:05:31.860 You cannot not like it.
00:05:34.380 Which is why it's kind of funny, and I recommend after the show,
00:05:41.360 go to Rotten Tomatoes, the review aggregator site,
00:05:46.600 and check out the reviews of this movie.
00:05:50.360 The reviews that started coming out yesterday.
00:05:53.660 Yeah, there are, like I said, there are some negative reviews,
00:05:55.800 including some negative reviews from women.
00:05:58.140 But most critics will not dare to write a fully negative review
00:06:02.680 about a female-led action movie.
00:06:04.780 They just won't do it.
00:06:06.120 Because they know that they, this is how stupid everything is,
00:06:08.660 that they know they take their careers into their hands,
00:06:11.360 if they commit the sin of disliking a movie about a woman fighting bad guys.
00:06:16.380 So what you find on Rotten Tomatoes are a bunch of critics
00:06:22.400 desperately trying to find a reason, any reason,
00:06:27.260 to give this movie a positive grade.
00:06:29.220 It's pretty clear that it's not a very good movie.
00:06:31.200 It's kind of a stupid movie.
00:06:32.680 But there are all these critics.
00:06:34.120 I think it's got like an 84%, 85% rating on Rotten Tomatoes right now
00:06:37.540 because all of these critics are trying to find,
00:06:41.000 they know they have to like it,
00:06:42.560 and so they're finding some way to like this movie.
00:06:47.260 And so let me read you some of the descriptions
00:06:49.420 from positive reviews.
00:06:52.860 Okay, these are some of the adjectives,
00:06:56.700 some of the descriptions that the positive reviews
00:07:00.240 compiled by Rotten Tomatoes have used.
00:07:04.500 Descriptions like convoluted plotting,
00:07:08.440 predictable, exhausting, shaky and confused,
00:07:14.300 flawed, a disappointment, mid-tier,
00:07:18.860 not going to reinvent the wheel,
00:07:21.340 forgettable, a work in progress.
00:07:23.680 Okay, these are the positive reviews of the movie.
00:07:26.980 These are people who didn't like the movie pretty clearly.
00:07:29.880 They thought that it was forgettable,
00:07:31.720 dull, boring, a disappointment,
00:07:33.540 but they knew that they had to give it a thumbs up anyway.
00:07:40.240 This is the bigotry of low expectations on steroids.
00:07:44.160 This is, yeah, it's a disappointment,
00:07:46.320 forgettable, dull, boring,
00:07:47.780 but it's got a lady in it.
00:07:49.600 There's a woman in it, so it must be good.
00:07:53.680 Um, the real reason for all the positive reviews
00:07:57.200 can be summed up by one of the less hesitant
00:08:02.320 positive reviews that I found.
00:08:04.660 Um, one of the reviewers said this,
00:08:06.980 we are still at the point where the visuals
00:08:09.640 of such a powerful female hero
00:08:11.980 are rare enough that its sheer existence
00:08:15.140 makes you giddy.
00:08:17.120 Okay, this is what someone said.
00:08:18.520 The sheer existence of this movie,
00:08:21.360 doesn't matter if it's good,
00:08:22.220 it doesn't matter what it's about,
00:08:23.260 just its sheer existence
00:08:24.960 is enough for you to praise it.
00:08:28.920 The thing that's so funny about that
00:08:30.640 is that, um,
00:08:32.420 I wrote my own review of Captain Marvel
00:08:34.740 and published it to the Daily Wire yesterday,
00:08:37.120 and the title of my review is, uh,
00:08:39.160 Captain Marvel is a Towering Artistic Achievement,
00:08:41.860 and the joke, of course,
00:08:43.600 is that I'm showering the movie
00:08:45.280 with ridiculous praise
00:08:46.620 simply because I don't want anyone
00:08:48.020 to call me a sexist.
00:08:49.600 Uh, even though I admit
00:08:50.700 that I haven't even seen the movie
00:08:52.000 and never planned to,
00:08:52.980 but I am heaping all this praise on it.
00:08:55.800 But let me, here's a paragraph
00:08:57.380 from my, now keep in mind
00:08:59.300 that real review, I just,
00:09:01.020 a snippet of that real review
00:09:02.060 that I just read to you.
00:09:03.340 Here's a snippet of my fake satirical review.
00:09:07.420 I said,
00:09:08.360 does Brie Larson do a good job
00:09:10.460 acting in the movie?
00:09:12.180 Well, your question is stunningly misogynistic.
00:09:15.160 Brie Larson isn't there to impress you.
00:09:17.060 You have no right to judge her performance.
00:09:19.920 She's not a puppet dancing on your string,
00:09:22.420 you scum.
00:09:23.720 All you need to know is that Larson is there,
00:09:26.420 in the film, existing, breathing, being.
00:09:30.620 Her performance was already magnificent
00:09:32.360 before she stepped one foot onto the set.
00:09:35.020 Her performance was inspiring and beautiful
00:09:37.140 even before she was born.
00:09:39.020 This moment, this movie,
00:09:40.880 was written in the stars,
00:09:42.800 destined from the beginning of time.
00:09:44.280 Now, I didn't read that other real review
00:09:47.300 before writing that.
00:09:48.380 I meant it as a joke.
00:09:50.700 That Brie Larson's sheer existence in the film
00:09:53.800 is enough reason to love it.
00:09:55.320 But then some real film reviewer
00:09:57.620 actually made that same point
00:09:59.880 in all seriousness.
00:10:02.540 My God.
00:10:03.140 Of course, the other meme
00:10:07.080 that you get with these movies
00:10:08.280 is that angry,
00:10:10.180 what you always hear
00:10:10.960 is the same thing with Ghostbusters.
00:10:12.080 What you always hear
00:10:12.780 is what the media says,
00:10:15.280 well, it's a bunch of angry white men.
00:10:18.440 A bunch of angry white men
00:10:20.020 are losing their minds over this movie.
00:10:21.860 They hate that this movie is out there.
00:10:24.260 In fact, right on cue,
00:10:25.920 the Daily Beast has an article
00:10:27.220 with that title verbatim.
00:10:29.580 The title is
00:10:30.260 How Brie Larson's Captain Marvel
00:10:32.140 Made Angry White Men Lose Their Damn Minds.
00:10:35.940 Meanwhile,
00:10:37.220 no man is losing his mind over this.
00:10:41.260 Men are just going,
00:10:42.680 eh, okay, it's not great.
00:10:44.240 You know, I, hmm.
00:10:45.380 That's what men are doing.
00:10:47.540 That's being called losing their minds.
00:10:49.300 But men are just saying, eh.
00:10:52.600 Feminists are the ones
00:10:53.700 who are losing their minds.
00:10:55.040 So the way that the conversation goes is
00:10:57.060 men say, yeah, you know, didn't love it.
00:11:00.780 And then feminists say,
00:11:02.020 why didn't you love it?
00:11:03.020 You sexist, you pig, you scum.
00:11:05.320 Why don't you die?
00:11:07.080 And then men say, okay, okay, take it easy.
00:11:09.100 And then feminists say,
00:11:09.940 why are you so angry?
00:11:11.440 Calm down.
00:11:13.200 That's the way that the conversation always goes.
00:11:15.600 So, um,
00:11:17.200 what is this all about?
00:11:21.440 Why, why does it, you know,
00:11:22.840 now every time there's a,
00:11:24.140 one of these female action movies,
00:11:25.540 which, which by the way, is nothing new.
00:11:27.060 Uh, you know,
00:11:28.320 there, there have been female-led action movies
00:11:30.480 for decades.
00:11:32.080 Kill Bill came out in what?
00:11:33.820 Like 2002 or three.
00:11:36.180 Um, and, uh,
00:11:37.420 that was a female-led,
00:11:39.140 led action movie.
00:11:40.380 And there have been,
00:11:41.400 there have been plenty before,
00:11:42.560 since and before that.
00:11:44.220 But why has it now become this,
00:11:46.440 uh, why is it now this,
00:11:48.040 this whole thing where it comes out,
00:11:49.720 it's this whole event
00:11:50.600 and everyone has to pretend to like it.
00:11:52.020 Well,
00:11:53.080 I think it just shows
00:11:54.920 the incredible insecurity
00:11:56.640 of feminists,
00:11:58.140 yet again.
00:11:59.680 Um,
00:12:00.080 insecurity is what drives
00:12:02.140 most of their positions.
00:12:04.540 Um,
00:12:05.220 most of what they do and say
00:12:06.880 really just comes down to insecurity.
00:12:09.700 Feminists are insecure
00:12:11.160 about the fact that
00:12:13.480 they themselves are not men.
00:12:16.280 This has always been
00:12:17.820 the paradox of feminism
00:12:19.540 is that they hate men,
00:12:21.360 but they also want to be men.
00:12:23.280 They hate men
00:12:24.060 because they themselves
00:12:25.420 are not men
00:12:26.360 and they wish they were.
00:12:27.480 Which is pretty typical,
00:12:28.520 I guess.
00:12:28.840 Maybe it's not even paradoxical.
00:12:30.440 It's pretty typical that when you,
00:12:32.320 uh,
00:12:32.640 that people generally hate
00:12:34.560 whoever they are envious of.
00:12:38.660 And so they see,
00:12:40.160 what they see is that,
00:12:41.380 uh,
00:12:41.600 is that men have a lot of action movies.
00:12:43.660 Um,
00:12:45.080 there are a lot of action hero men
00:12:46.900 and so they want their own.
00:12:49.120 The only reason they want it
00:12:50.980 is because men have it.
00:12:52.660 That's the only reason.
00:12:53.860 It's not because they find anything
00:12:55.880 objectively good about it or anything.
00:12:57.940 It's just they want it
00:12:58.960 because men have it.
00:13:01.420 And then they want theirs
00:13:03.040 to be just as good.
00:13:05.280 And if you say that theirs
00:13:06.740 isn't just as good
00:13:07.900 or if it's,
00:13:08.500 or whatever,
00:13:09.340 uh,
00:13:09.780 they have,
00:13:10.340 they have a temper tantrum over it
00:13:11.760 and that's the way it goes.
00:13:12.920 It's the same thing
00:13:13.940 that I mentioned before.
00:13:16.040 Feminists are very insecure
00:13:17.560 about,
00:13:19.020 um,
00:13:19.600 the fact that
00:13:20.840 about,
00:13:22.060 about,
00:13:22.440 you know,
00:13:22.800 sense about,
00:13:23.340 about humor,
00:13:24.280 uh,
00:13:24.900 comedy.
00:13:26.600 And
00:13:27.080 they know that
00:13:29.000 most of the greatest comedians
00:13:31.240 in,
00:13:31.520 in,
00:13:31.800 in,
00:13:32.000 in history have been men.
00:13:34.140 Uh,
00:13:34.620 most of the funniest movies
00:13:36.100 that have come out
00:13:36.820 have been written by men,
00:13:38.800 directed by men,
00:13:39.740 starring men.
00:13:40.440 And,
00:13:42.620 uh,
00:13:42.820 so they have a,
00:13:43.700 they,
00:13:44.840 they,
00:13:45.000 they get very insecure
00:13:45.800 about that.
00:13:47.300 And they insist,
00:13:48.360 no,
00:13:48.540 no,
00:13:48.720 we,
00:13:49.000 men are funny.
00:13:50.080 Men have funny things.
00:13:50.960 We need to,
00:13:51.380 we need to have funny things too
00:13:52.380 because we need to be just like men.
00:13:54.560 And so they have their own comedians
00:13:56.300 and their own movies
00:13:57.120 and,
00:13:57.480 and some of their comedians
00:13:58.460 are,
00:13:58.740 are legitimately funny
00:13:59.760 and some of their movies
00:14:01.080 are legitimately funny,
00:14:02.020 but some of them really aren't.
00:14:04.160 But you're not allowed to say that.
00:14:05.420 You have to pretend,
00:14:06.260 right?
00:14:07.940 When,
00:14:08.160 when,
00:14:08.480 when someone like Amy Schumer
00:14:09.760 comes along
00:14:10.440 and,
00:14:10.700 and really she's not funny at all
00:14:11.980 and has no actual real jokes,
00:14:13.800 but you have to pretend,
00:14:15.440 well,
00:14:15.520 she's a woman though.
00:14:16.340 So we have to grade her on a curve
00:14:17.680 and pretend that she's,
00:14:18.800 uh,
00:14:18.940 that she's funny.
00:14:19.540 So that's,
00:14:20.280 that's what it comes down to.
00:14:21.120 It's just kind of this,
00:14:21.920 uh,
00:14:22.260 really silly insecurity
00:14:23.500 on the part of feminists.
00:14:26.560 All right.
00:14:27.260 Uh,
00:14:27.640 switching gears here.
00:14:28.460 I want to talk about,
00:14:29.300 um,
00:14:30.340 something that has been gaining
00:14:32.360 a lot of,
00:14:33.800 uh,
00:14:34.000 steam recently.
00:14:34.940 And that is the issue
00:14:37.160 of paid family leave.
00:14:39.700 Okay.
00:14:40.280 Paid family leave is an idea
00:14:42.420 that is,
00:14:43.220 uh,
00:14:43.420 gaining bipartisan support,
00:14:45.120 which is,
00:14:45.980 which you should always be,
00:14:47.380 what the media tells us
00:14:48.700 is that anytime something
00:14:49.780 is getting bipartisan support,
00:14:51.300 that means it's probably
00:14:52.640 a good idea
00:14:53.460 and we should pay attention to it.
00:14:54.660 Uh,
00:14:55.220 but in reality,
00:14:56.080 it goes the other way
00:14:57.400 is that when,
00:14:58.600 when something is getting
00:14:59.440 bipartisan support,
00:15:00.480 that's when you should be
00:15:01.440 really suspicious of it.
00:15:02.640 because I mean,
00:15:05.480 it's bad enough
00:15:06.220 when one group of idiots
00:15:07.380 likes a certain proposal,
00:15:08.760 but when both groups
00:15:10.480 of idiots like it,
00:15:11.660 well then now,
00:15:12.620 you know,
00:15:12.820 it must be really bad.
00:15:14.180 Right.
00:15:15.420 Uh,
00:15:15.900 but it's,
00:15:16.960 you know,
00:15:17.480 it is getting a lot of,
00:15:18.360 Democrats love the idea.
00:15:19.980 Republicans are getting behind it.
00:15:21.660 Trump is in favor of it.
00:15:23.240 Um,
00:15:23.820 I was at CPAC last week
00:15:25.320 and Rick Santorum
00:15:26.340 was there
00:15:26.940 stumping for,
00:15:28.380 for,
00:15:28.980 um,
00:15:29.200 paid family leave.
00:15:29.980 He had this big sign
00:15:31.400 that was out near,
00:15:32.320 um,
00:15:32.580 broad,
00:15:33.040 broad crack.
00:15:34.200 It's called broadcast row
00:15:35.360 where all the,
00:15:35.820 um,
00:15:37.320 you know,
00:15:37.880 TV stations and radio stations
00:15:39.400 and stuff are set up at CPAC.
00:15:40.620 And he had this big sign there
00:15:42.040 that said,
00:15:43.640 uh,
00:15:43.800 something like paid family leave
00:15:45.120 is a conservative position
00:15:47.000 or conservative priority.
00:15:49.620 Now,
00:15:50.360 paid family leave,
00:15:51.320 of course,
00:15:51.780 is not a new idea.
00:15:53.840 Uh,
00:15:54.120 many employers
00:15:55.300 offer paid leave
00:15:56.680 to their employees
00:15:57.400 for maternity,
00:15:58.540 sickness,
00:15:58.840 other medical
00:15:59.760 or family issues
00:16:00.720 and so on.
00:16:02.040 But some employers
00:16:03.660 don't offer it.
00:16:05.140 Um,
00:16:05.680 especially small employers,
00:16:07.460 small businesses
00:16:08.240 often cannot afford it
00:16:10.660 because if you've got
00:16:12.260 a small business
00:16:13.080 and,
00:16:14.320 um,
00:16:15.700 you've only got
00:16:16.980 five employees,
00:16:18.440 you probably
00:16:20.480 can't afford
00:16:21.600 to pay
00:16:22.140 one of your employees
00:16:23.040 to be gone
00:16:23.820 for five weeks.
00:16:24.700 You just can't afford it.
00:16:26.020 You don't have
00:16:26.520 the resources for that,
00:16:27.740 especially because
00:16:29.060 when you pay
00:16:30.520 your employee
00:16:31.020 to be gone
00:16:31.480 for five weeks,
00:16:32.160 you also have
00:16:32.860 to pay someone else
00:16:34.220 to temporarily
00:16:34.820 come in
00:16:35.680 and,
00:16:37.240 uh,
00:16:37.440 take that person's
00:16:38.260 place.
00:16:40.440 And so now
00:16:41.140 it's double the cost
00:16:41.940 and you just can't
00:16:42.520 afford it.
00:16:44.960 But Republicans
00:16:45.780 and Democrats
00:16:46.420 now want
00:16:48.060 to mandate it.
00:16:50.260 And that's the way
00:16:51.080 it always works
00:16:51.540 with government,
00:16:52.020 right?
00:16:52.180 They see how,
00:16:53.080 uh,
00:16:53.900 there's a certain thing
00:16:54.960 that isn't happening
00:16:56.960 or at least
00:16:59.120 isn't happening
00:16:59.720 enough,
00:17:00.140 according to them.
00:17:02.000 And it's not
00:17:02.840 happening enough
00:17:04.000 because it just,
00:17:05.200 people can't afford it.
00:17:05.940 They can't do it.
00:17:06.460 And so the solution
00:17:08.000 from our,
00:17:08.940 from our illustrious
00:17:09.660 politicians
00:17:10.140 is to just mandate it.
00:17:11.800 It's to say,
00:17:12.600 oh,
00:17:12.800 well,
00:17:12.980 you can't afford it.
00:17:13.700 Well,
00:17:13.780 you have to do it now.
00:17:15.360 Now that's how
00:17:16.120 we'll solve that problem.
00:17:18.240 They want
00:17:19.060 to tell employers
00:17:20.660 that they must
00:17:22.700 offer paid
00:17:23.780 family leave
00:17:24.320 and not just
00:17:25.800 that they must,
00:17:26.620 but these
00:17:27.380 politicians
00:17:28.040 are going
00:17:28.660 to mandate
00:17:29.320 how much
00:17:30.040 time will be
00:17:30.780 offered
00:17:31.100 and for what
00:17:32.660 reasons.
00:17:33.500 And they're going
00:17:34.200 to set all
00:17:34.700 the other
00:17:35.060 parameters as well,
00:17:36.460 right?
00:17:37.500 So they are
00:17:38.700 sitting up
00:17:40.200 on their perch
00:17:40.960 in D.C.
00:17:41.560 They're surveying
00:17:42.420 the whole landscape
00:17:43.400 and declaring
00:17:45.020 what everyone
00:17:45.920 should do.
00:17:46.480 They're making
00:17:46.820 their declaration.
00:17:48.400 This is what
00:17:48.880 everybody has
00:17:50.020 to do.
00:17:51.580 Not taking
00:17:52.540 into account
00:17:53.300 individual cases,
00:17:55.660 not taking
00:17:56.060 into account
00:17:56.500 exceptions,
00:17:57.580 not taking
00:17:58.040 into account
00:17:58.640 the situation,
00:18:00.520 the actual
00:18:00.900 real-world
00:18:01.540 situations
00:18:02.180 that employers
00:18:03.120 find themselves
00:18:03.900 in,
00:18:04.400 not taking
00:18:05.020 anything
00:18:05.420 into account
00:18:06.200 but the
00:18:06.620 political
00:18:07.040 spectacle
00:18:07.620 of it.
00:18:09.000 All that
00:18:09.760 they care
00:18:10.260 about
00:18:10.580 is that
00:18:11.360 the voters
00:18:12.100 will see
00:18:13.760 them,
00:18:14.840 will see
00:18:16.000 the politicians
00:18:16.720 trying to
00:18:17.760 give them,
00:18:18.860 the voters,
00:18:19.480 something.
00:18:19.740 That's all
00:18:20.400 that they
00:18:20.940 want.
00:18:23.380 Now,
00:18:23.980 there are
00:18:24.200 different ideas
00:18:24.860 for how to
00:18:25.600 structure this
00:18:26.340 kind of
00:18:26.680 entitlement
00:18:27.040 plan,
00:18:28.120 and it is
00:18:28.720 certainly an
00:18:29.200 entitlement
00:18:29.540 plan.
00:18:32.200 It's literally
00:18:33.160 an entitlement.
00:18:34.340 Politicians are
00:18:35.120 saying everybody
00:18:36.020 is entitled
00:18:37.300 to three or
00:18:38.700 five or
00:18:39.200 twelve weeks
00:18:39.800 of a paid
00:18:40.320 family leave.
00:18:41.780 Different ideas
00:18:42.520 on how to
00:18:42.820 structure it,
00:18:43.380 different ideas
00:18:43.880 on how to
00:18:44.160 fund it,
00:18:44.700 but no
00:18:46.560 matter what,
00:18:47.500 it will
00:18:47.860 be costly.
00:18:49.080 No matter
00:18:49.740 what,
00:18:50.360 private citizens
00:18:51.300 and businesses
00:18:52.340 will be footing
00:18:53.480 the bill for
00:18:54.040 this thing,
00:18:54.800 whether they
00:18:55.440 can afford
00:18:56.000 it or not.
00:18:57.400 And remember,
00:18:58.120 the whole
00:18:58.700 reason why
00:18:59.780 some employers
00:19:01.160 don't have
00:19:01.860 paid family
00:19:02.300 leave is
00:19:03.040 because they
00:19:03.540 can't afford
00:19:04.280 it.
00:19:05.520 I'm sure
00:19:06.220 that if you
00:19:06.720 have a business
00:19:07.560 with five
00:19:08.080 employees,
00:19:08.840 you would
00:19:09.320 love it if
00:19:10.220 you actually
00:19:10.720 had a business
00:19:11.280 with 500
00:19:12.080 employees and
00:19:12.840 you could afford
00:19:13.340 to do something,
00:19:13.920 but that's
00:19:14.700 just not the
00:19:15.260 situation that
00:19:15.960 you're in.
00:19:18.620 It is my,
00:19:20.300 call me an
00:19:20.940 optimist,
00:19:21.640 but you'd be
00:19:23.380 the first to
00:19:23.840 ever call me
00:19:24.220 that,
00:19:24.520 but call me
00:19:25.000 an optimist.
00:19:25.480 I don't think
00:19:26.340 that there are
00:19:26.740 very many
00:19:27.300 employers out
00:19:28.440 there who
00:19:30.760 decline to
00:19:31.520 offer paid
00:19:32.260 leave just
00:19:35.380 because they're
00:19:36.340 like, you
00:19:37.360 know,
00:19:37.640 Grinches or
00:19:38.640 Scrooges or
00:19:39.680 whatever,
00:19:40.220 and they just
00:19:41.420 don't offer
00:19:42.180 it because
00:19:42.720 they want
00:19:43.620 to see
00:19:43.940 their
00:19:44.160 employees
00:19:44.640 suffering.
00:19:47.300 You know,
00:19:47.840 when I think
00:19:48.440 of private
00:19:49.440 business owners,
00:19:50.380 I don't,
00:19:51.020 unlike a lot
00:19:52.180 of people,
00:19:52.660 I don't
00:19:53.080 imagine some
00:19:55.360 evil old
00:19:57.100 white guy,
00:19:58.020 you know,
00:19:58.620 chomping on
00:19:59.140 his cigar,
00:20:00.040 sitting behind
00:20:00.600 a big oak
00:20:01.600 desk,
00:20:02.700 you know,
00:20:02.960 petting his
00:20:03.400 white cat
00:20:04.040 and laughing
00:20:05.360 maniacally to
00:20:06.220 himself when
00:20:06.820 he thinks
00:20:07.140 about all
00:20:07.600 the,
00:20:08.060 all the,
00:20:08.720 all of his
00:20:09.520 employees who
00:20:10.960 he's not
00:20:11.440 giving paid
00:20:12.060 leave to.
00:20:12.640 That's not
00:20:13.160 what I
00:20:13.440 imagine.
00:20:13.940 When I think
00:20:14.560 of business
00:20:14.900 owners,
00:20:15.260 I think most
00:20:16.120 of them are
00:20:16.500 just,
00:20:16.840 you know,
00:20:17.020 they own
00:20:17.600 small to
00:20:18.340 medium-sized
00:20:18.980 businesses and
00:20:20.300 they're trying
00:20:20.700 to make it
00:20:21.140 by,
00:20:22.060 and it's,
00:20:24.280 you know,
00:20:24.820 they don't
00:20:25.340 have a lot
00:20:25.780 of room to
00:20:26.280 work with,
00:20:27.200 and if
00:20:28.660 they're not
00:20:29.420 offering these
00:20:30.300 kinds of
00:20:31.060 programs,
00:20:32.040 it's because
00:20:32.640 they just
00:20:33.080 can't.
00:20:34.240 They'd love
00:20:34.860 to,
00:20:35.160 but they
00:20:35.520 can't.
00:20:37.700 So,
00:20:38.580 I think when
00:20:40.200 we talk about
00:20:41.140 something like
00:20:41.560 this,
00:20:42.060 we don't
00:20:44.000 even need to
00:20:44.560 get into
00:20:44.940 the cost
00:20:45.620 of it.
00:20:46.080 We don't
00:20:46.280 even need to
00:20:46.740 get into
00:20:47.020 the practical
00:20:47.740 aspects,
00:20:48.560 which is,
00:20:48.860 which is an
00:20:49.220 important aspect,
00:20:50.080 of course,
00:20:50.900 and I think
00:20:51.620 it is,
00:20:52.080 the cost
00:20:52.740 alone is
00:20:53.320 prohibitive,
00:20:53.780 but I think
00:20:56.540 that's not
00:20:57.440 really the
00:20:57.920 point.
00:20:59.360 There is
00:21:00.160 rather,
00:21:00.720 I would say,
00:21:01.480 a philosophical
00:21:02.460 question here,
00:21:03.980 and it's a
00:21:05.040 philosophical
00:21:05.540 question that
00:21:07.040 at some
00:21:07.680 point we
00:21:08.320 just sort
00:21:09.040 of stopped
00:21:09.620 asking ourselves,
00:21:10.560 but I
00:21:10.920 think we
00:21:11.200 need to
00:21:11.440 ask ourselves
00:21:11.960 this question,
00:21:13.160 and that
00:21:14.040 is,
00:21:15.080 what is
00:21:16.720 the point
00:21:17.340 of government?
00:21:20.000 You know,
00:21:20.360 fundamentally,
00:21:21.680 what is
00:21:22.640 government
00:21:23.100 supposed to
00:21:23.820 do?
00:21:24.080 Why do
00:21:24.600 we have
00:21:25.000 a government?
00:21:25.780 What is
00:21:26.320 its job?
00:21:28.980 And I
00:21:29.500 really think
00:21:30.320 that a lot
00:21:31.200 of people,
00:21:32.140 they go their
00:21:33.620 whole lives,
00:21:34.220 they never ask
00:21:34.940 themselves that
00:21:35.520 question.
00:21:35.760 they never
00:21:36.520 develop any
00:21:37.440 sense of,
00:21:38.260 any idea of
00:21:39.340 what the
00:21:40.020 government even
00:21:40.680 is, or what
00:21:41.520 it's supposed
00:21:41.940 to do, yet
00:21:43.160 they still have
00:21:43.740 all these
00:21:44.200 opinions about
00:21:46.160 different policies
00:21:47.040 they support,
00:21:47.800 and different
00:21:48.060 laws, and
00:21:48.620 everything, and
00:21:49.340 it's all kind
00:21:49.860 of haphazard,
00:21:51.320 and, you
00:21:53.660 know, they
00:21:53.920 just, they
00:21:56.260 come up with
00:21:57.060 their positions
00:21:58.800 and their
00:21:59.140 opinions, it's
00:21:59.700 all isolated,
00:22:01.440 right?
00:22:01.900 There's nothing
00:22:02.480 coherent about
00:22:03.440 it.
00:22:03.620 I think most
00:22:05.020 people don't
00:22:05.520 bother coming
00:22:06.140 up with a
00:22:06.720 coherent kind
00:22:08.640 of philosophy
00:22:10.000 of government.
00:22:13.180 Well, fortunately,
00:22:14.700 our founding
00:22:15.200 fathers did
00:22:16.100 bother coming
00:22:17.220 up with a
00:22:17.740 coherent
00:22:18.040 philosophy of
00:22:18.780 government, and
00:22:20.060 their philosophy
00:22:21.320 was that
00:22:21.920 government exists
00:22:23.220 to protect our
00:22:24.540 liberty, you
00:22:25.560 know, to
00:22:25.740 protect our
00:22:26.260 rights.
00:22:26.720 That's why we
00:22:27.480 have government.
00:22:28.040 That is the
00:22:28.520 fundamental
00:22:29.140 philosophical
00:22:30.980 reason why
00:22:33.600 government
00:22:34.120 exists.
00:22:36.220 I think most
00:22:37.240 people today,
00:22:38.120 although, again,
00:22:38.800 they don't
00:22:39.000 really stop to
00:22:39.600 think about
00:22:40.020 it, they
00:22:40.220 don't come
00:22:40.500 up with a
00:22:40.880 coherent idea
00:22:41.800 of it, but
00:22:42.300 when it comes
00:22:42.700 down to it,
00:22:44.220 what they
00:22:44.920 really think
00:22:45.780 is that the
00:22:46.440 government
00:22:46.720 exists to
00:22:47.460 protect, fund,
00:22:48.860 facilitate our
00:22:50.200 lifestyles and
00:22:51.900 our comfort.
00:22:53.860 Government
00:22:54.420 exists to
00:22:55.260 provide for
00:22:56.660 us.
00:22:57.740 Government
00:22:58.000 is sort of
00:22:58.880 the ultimate
00:23:01.200 daddy.
00:23:01.840 it's everyone's
00:23:05.100 daddy that's
00:23:06.280 just up there
00:23:07.000 and giving us
00:23:07.840 what we need.
00:23:09.300 That's the
00:23:09.900 idea of
00:23:10.500 government that
00:23:11.040 a lot of
00:23:11.460 people have.
00:23:12.560 And when you
00:23:13.040 have that idea
00:23:13.860 of government,
00:23:14.440 then I guess it
00:23:15.040 makes sense.
00:23:15.780 Something like
00:23:16.260 paid family
00:23:16.700 leave, in that
00:23:17.180 case, just
00:23:18.220 makes a whole
00:23:18.780 lot of sense.
00:23:22.200 Because it
00:23:23.640 would make our
00:23:24.240 lives a lot
00:23:24.800 easier if we
00:23:25.900 had paid family
00:23:26.580 leave.
00:23:27.320 It would make
00:23:28.020 us a lot more
00:23:28.620 comfortable, and
00:23:30.860 so the
00:23:31.200 government should
00:23:31.720 give us that.
00:23:33.260 Because that's
00:23:34.900 the argument that
00:23:36.380 most people
00:23:36.940 have.
00:23:38.500 It's just, it
00:23:39.860 would be nice to
00:23:40.680 have that thing,
00:23:41.500 it would make my
00:23:42.080 life easier, and
00:23:43.060 so the government
00:23:43.920 should see that I
00:23:44.800 have it.
00:23:45.180 That's all.
00:23:47.020 Why should I need
00:23:48.040 any more reason
00:23:48.720 than that?
00:23:49.340 It's something that
00:23:50.220 I want, it would
00:23:51.740 be good for me,
00:23:53.000 it would help me,
00:23:54.140 and so the
00:23:55.680 government should
00:23:56.140 give it to me.
00:23:58.840 And that's why
00:23:59.600 when you have
00:24:00.060 this discussion,
00:24:01.580 and you, you
00:24:03.820 know, you take
00:24:04.300 the position that
00:24:05.040 no, I don't, I
00:24:05.540 don't think the
00:24:05.880 government should
00:24:06.320 provide that.
00:24:08.000 A lot of people,
00:24:09.380 when they hear you
00:24:10.300 make that argument,
00:24:11.620 they're going to
00:24:13.740 respond by
00:24:14.700 explaining why
00:24:16.240 that thing itself
00:24:17.440 is good.
00:24:18.140 So like, you'll
00:24:19.260 say, no, I don't
00:24:19.780 think the government
00:24:20.300 should provide
00:24:21.140 paid family leave.
00:24:22.780 And so the
00:24:24.040 response will be,
00:24:25.060 yeah, but paid
00:24:25.560 family leave is
00:24:26.120 good.
00:24:26.400 It would really
00:24:26.740 help me.
00:24:27.460 They respond by
00:24:28.980 explaining all the
00:24:30.080 ways that paid
00:24:31.900 family leave is
00:24:32.600 good.
00:24:33.040 Well, no, but
00:24:33.540 no, you're not
00:24:34.600 arguing that there's
00:24:35.500 anything wrong with
00:24:36.180 paid family leave
00:24:37.080 itself.
00:24:37.840 Paid family leave
00:24:38.500 is great.
00:24:39.980 You're just arguing
00:24:40.940 that the government
00:24:41.540 shouldn't mandate
00:24:42.440 it.
00:24:44.380 That's the point.
00:24:46.480 Just like, I
00:24:47.820 don't think that the
00:24:48.500 government should be
00:24:49.080 involved in health
00:24:49.800 care.
00:24:50.180 I'm not against
00:24:51.100 health care.
00:24:51.700 I think health care
00:24:52.220 is great.
00:24:53.160 I think it's great
00:24:53.760 for people to go to
00:24:54.240 the doctor.
00:24:54.720 I think everyone,
00:24:55.180 it's a wonderful
00:24:56.840 thing.
00:24:57.460 Modern medicine is a
00:24:58.500 wonderful thing.
00:24:59.780 I just don't think
00:25:00.280 the government should
00:25:00.900 be involved in it.
00:25:03.720 But there's that
00:25:04.800 nuance, that really
00:25:06.920 obvious and important
00:25:08.240 nuance, right?
00:25:09.240 That obvious
00:25:10.260 distinction that
00:25:12.200 many people in our
00:25:13.240 country today don't
00:25:14.740 understand.
00:25:15.580 They don't understand
00:25:16.800 the difference between
00:25:18.600 opposing something in
00:25:20.180 and of itself and
00:25:23.440 opposing the
00:25:24.360 government's
00:25:24.900 involvement in
00:25:27.220 that thing.
00:25:28.860 They cannot
00:25:31.640 comprehend the
00:25:32.620 difference.
00:25:33.960 And that's why we
00:25:37.160 just, instead of,
00:25:38.220 we need to get
00:25:39.740 control of the
00:25:40.260 entitlement state,
00:25:41.120 we need to get
00:25:43.220 control of our debt
00:25:44.000 problem.
00:25:44.720 That's what we need
00:25:45.420 to do.
00:25:45.840 But instead, we keep
00:25:46.660 going in the opposite
00:25:47.360 direction.
00:25:47.800 more debt and
00:25:48.600 more entitlement.
00:25:51.640 And a lot of it is
00:25:53.240 because of this
00:25:53.880 fundamental confusion
00:25:55.060 that plagues many,
00:25:57.800 many voters.
00:26:01.940 All right, let's
00:26:03.940 see.
00:26:05.440 Something else I
00:26:06.340 wanted to mention.
00:26:09.740 Maybe I'll save
00:26:10.280 this for tomorrow.
00:26:11.460 But Sean Oakman
00:26:13.620 is a former
00:26:14.640 football player
00:26:17.140 at Baylor
00:26:17.620 University.
00:26:18.880 And he was
00:26:19.480 supposed to be
00:26:21.560 potentially a
00:26:23.400 first-round draft
00:26:24.360 pick in the NFL.
00:26:25.080 NFL, but he
00:26:26.620 was accused
00:26:28.400 of and
00:26:28.960 charged with
00:26:29.740 raping a
00:26:30.620 woman.
00:26:31.680 And this was
00:26:32.460 like two or
00:26:32.880 three years
00:26:33.240 ago.
00:26:34.200 And it
00:26:34.720 completely
00:26:35.040 derailed his
00:26:35.640 career.
00:26:36.000 He wasn't
00:26:36.300 drafted by the
00:26:37.000 NFL.
00:26:38.380 So he's been
00:26:38.800 out of football
00:26:39.300 now for three
00:26:40.020 years.
00:26:41.040 And just a
00:26:42.020 couple of days
00:26:42.560 ago, he was
00:26:43.440 found not guilty
00:26:44.400 of sexual
00:26:46.060 assault.
00:26:47.900 And whether
00:26:50.440 or not he'll
00:26:51.000 be able to
00:26:51.740 get his
00:26:53.220 career back
00:26:53.900 remains to be
00:26:54.660 seen.
00:26:55.760 But this is
00:26:56.480 an interesting
00:26:56.980 case.
00:26:58.500 And it
00:26:58.800 shows the
00:26:59.680 consequences
00:27:03.280 of an
00:27:04.700 accusation,
00:27:05.520 even if it's
00:27:06.560 a false
00:27:07.360 accusation.
00:27:08.700 But I think
00:27:09.140 we'll, because
00:27:10.660 there are a few
00:27:11.020 interesting emails
00:27:11.700 I want to get
00:27:12.140 to, I think
00:27:12.700 we'll save
00:27:13.060 that discussion
00:27:13.580 for tomorrow.
00:27:15.160 Because I want
00:27:15.720 to get into
00:27:16.100 that in more
00:27:17.380 detail, into
00:27:18.420 the specifics
00:27:18.980 of this particular
00:27:20.260 case.
00:27:21.400 Let's go to
00:27:21.900 emails.
00:27:22.220 mattwalsshow
00:27:23.400 at gmail.com,
00:27:24.460 mattwalsshow
00:27:24.980 at gmail.com
00:27:25.900 is the email
00:27:26.380 address.
00:27:27.940 This is from
00:27:28.900 Matt.
00:27:30.200 We had a
00:27:30.600 Matt write
00:27:31.000 in yesterday,
00:27:31.680 so the
00:27:32.680 Matt's are
00:27:33.080 all uniting.
00:27:33.680 I think
00:27:33.820 that's great.
00:27:34.640 This is from
00:27:34.920 a different
00:27:35.220 Matt.
00:27:35.520 He says,
00:27:35.860 you talked
00:27:36.160 at length
00:27:36.540 today about
00:27:37.060 how
00:27:37.520 Alexandria
00:27:38.260 Cezo-Cortez
00:27:38.920 does not
00:27:39.660 appear to
00:27:40.040 take her
00:27:40.360 own doomsday
00:27:41.120 prophecies
00:27:41.720 seriously
00:27:42.360 because she
00:27:43.360 continues to
00:27:44.280 utilize
00:27:44.900 supposedly
00:27:45.520 world-ending
00:27:46.100 technologies.
00:27:47.800 If she
00:27:48.000 really thought
00:27:48.560 cars and
00:27:49.160 planes were
00:27:49.600 destroying the
00:27:50.080 planet,
00:27:50.440 you say,
00:27:50.780 she'd be
00:27:51.080 screaming at the
00:27:51.620 top of her
00:27:51.980 lungs in fear
00:27:52.740 and or anger
00:27:53.520 or at least
00:27:54.460 taking the
00:27:54.880 metro more
00:27:55.360 often.
00:27:56.300 I couldn't
00:27:56.620 help but notice
00:27:57.120 a correlation
00:27:57.700 between the
00:27:58.260 way AOC
00:27:58.940 chooses to
00:27:59.600 live despite
00:28:00.060 her beliefs
00:28:00.580 and the way
00:28:00.980 pro-lifers live
00:28:02.040 despite theirs.
00:28:02.860 I, for
00:28:03.120 instance,
00:28:03.920 am pro-life
00:28:04.520 above all
00:28:05.020 else,
00:28:05.980 which means
00:28:09.260 I truly do
00:28:09.980 believe that
00:28:10.820 60 million
00:28:11.400 innocent human
00:28:11.960 beings have
00:28:12.580 been legally
00:28:13.060 killed over
00:28:13.520 the last
00:28:13.840 quarter century.
00:28:14.460 one might
00:28:15.720 suggest that
00:28:16.480 given this
00:28:17.040 horrifying
00:28:17.560 injustice,
00:28:18.880 I ought to
00:28:19.560 be tirelessly
00:28:20.460 rioting in
00:28:21.180 the streets.
00:28:22.240 While I do
00:28:22.880 dedicate a good
00:28:23.500 amount of
00:28:23.840 time to
00:28:24.140 activism,
00:28:24.760 certainly I
00:28:25.180 could be
00:28:25.420 doing much,
00:28:26.020 much more.
00:28:27.220 Simply put,
00:28:29.220 practicality plays
00:28:30.140 a big role in
00:28:30.820 the time I
00:28:31.360 spend marching
00:28:32.060 or writing.
00:28:33.420 How much
00:28:33.700 difference could
00:28:34.740 I, a single
00:28:35.500 person, truly
00:28:36.120 make?
00:28:36.760 Is it worth
00:28:37.300 sacrificing a
00:28:38.100 family, a
00:28:38.720 job?
00:28:39.680 I think that
00:28:40.320 to some
00:28:40.660 extent, climate
00:28:41.540 change activists
00:28:42.280 could use this
00:28:43.060 same excuse.
00:28:44.360 The problem,
00:28:44.880 according to
00:28:45.160 them, is so
00:28:45.720 massive that
00:28:46.720 their individual
00:28:47.360 contribution or
00:28:48.260 sacrifice is
00:28:48.960 negligible.
00:28:50.060 Is it worth the
00:28:50.820 massive inconvenience?
00:28:52.100 Will they really
00:28:52.660 make that much of
00:28:53.440 a difference?
00:28:54.220 Let me know what
00:28:54.600 you think.
00:28:54.940 Love the show.
00:28:55.440 Keep up the
00:28:55.720 great work.
00:28:57.440 I think that is
00:28:58.340 an excellent
00:28:58.800 point, and I
00:29:00.140 totally agree that
00:29:01.120 pro-lifers often
00:29:02.460 don't live like they
00:29:03.660 believe what they're
00:29:04.360 saying.
00:29:05.880 And that's a
00:29:06.700 problem.
00:29:07.560 They don't do
00:29:08.420 enough.
00:29:08.640 We don't do
00:29:09.320 enough.
00:29:09.600 I don't do
00:29:10.040 enough.
00:29:11.320 And you're
00:29:12.320 absolutely right
00:29:12.880 about that.
00:29:14.580 But I think
00:29:15.540 there is a
00:29:16.060 difference between
00:29:18.280 the case of the
00:29:19.400 pro-lifers who
00:29:20.360 are not involved
00:29:21.400 enough in
00:29:21.940 activism and
00:29:22.800 in fighting the
00:29:23.400 cause and
00:29:24.560 this.
00:29:25.780 Okay?
00:29:26.700 Environmentalists,
00:29:27.280 at least the
00:29:27.700 ones like Ocasio
00:29:29.240 Cortez, the
00:29:29.940 extremist ones,
00:29:31.520 they believe that
00:29:34.640 things like cars
00:29:35.720 and planes are
00:29:37.420 directly causing
00:29:38.620 directly bringing
00:29:39.840 about the end of
00:29:41.800 the world.
00:29:42.500 Okay?
00:29:43.820 Cortez says that
00:29:44.880 the world is going
00:29:45.540 to end in 12
00:29:46.740 years.
00:29:47.680 So there's a
00:29:48.700 difference between
00:29:49.380 choosing not to
00:29:50.620 actively take steps
00:29:51.560 to address the
00:29:52.220 issue that you
00:29:52.760 claim to care
00:29:53.400 about, which
00:29:53.880 many pro-lifers
00:29:54.680 are guilty of,
00:29:55.860 and on the other
00:29:56.920 hand, continuing to
00:29:58.600 do a thing that
00:29:59.920 you claim is going
00:30:01.200 to destroy all
00:30:02.360 human life in a
00:30:03.300 very short amount
00:30:04.040 of time.
00:30:04.900 So I think that
00:30:05.740 there's a difference
00:30:06.480 between those two
00:30:07.440 things.
00:30:08.720 In other words,
00:30:09.820 I'm not blaming
00:30:10.860 environmentalists for
00:30:13.940 their lack of
00:30:14.900 activism.
00:30:15.660 That's not my
00:30:16.180 point.
00:30:17.180 I'm not saying
00:30:18.220 that environmentalists
00:30:19.120 should be out there
00:30:19.780 doing more
00:30:20.220 activism, marching
00:30:21.820 more, and all that
00:30:22.620 kind of stuff.
00:30:26.360 I'm not blaming
00:30:27.280 them for what
00:30:27.760 they're not doing.
00:30:29.820 I'm blaming them
00:30:30.940 for what they
00:30:31.640 continue to do,
00:30:32.880 which is to
00:30:34.360 directly contribute
00:30:35.280 to the destruction
00:30:36.200 of human
00:30:36.660 civilization, in
00:30:37.900 their minds
00:30:38.420 anyway.
00:30:40.600 So I just
00:30:41.400 think, you
00:30:42.520 know, as a
00:30:42.840 pro-lifer, you
00:30:43.460 might stop and
00:30:44.560 say to yourself,
00:30:45.140 I could be doing
00:30:45.940 more, I need to
00:30:46.580 be out there
00:30:47.100 more, and that's
00:30:48.280 true, we could
00:30:48.740 all be doing
00:30:49.200 more.
00:30:50.660 But if you are
00:30:51.680 an environmental
00:30:52.440 extremist, and
00:30:55.900 you really
00:30:58.020 believe that
00:31:00.380 because we
00:31:02.820 drive around in
00:31:03.940 cars and use
00:31:04.800 fossil fuels, the
00:31:06.000 world is going to
00:31:06.920 come to an end.
00:31:10.960 It's one thing to
00:31:12.100 not go out in the
00:31:13.000 streets screaming
00:31:13.720 about it, which I'm
00:31:14.700 kind of happy that
00:31:15.380 they don't do.
00:31:16.520 They do it
00:31:17.120 sometimes, but if
00:31:18.960 they want to cut
00:31:19.440 back on that, I'm
00:31:20.000 fine.
00:31:21.460 There's a difference
00:31:21.940 between that and
00:31:22.540 then, on the other
00:31:23.780 hand, actually
00:31:24.440 getting into a car
00:31:25.780 and driving around
00:31:27.520 in it, while
00:31:29.800 thinking that you
00:31:31.000 are directly
00:31:32.120 contributing to
00:31:34.880 the end of
00:31:35.540 human, maybe in a
00:31:36.500 very small way, but
00:31:37.280 you are directly
00:31:38.100 contributing to the
00:31:38.780 end of human
00:31:39.420 civilization.
00:31:40.180 I just, I can't
00:31:41.280 imagine doing that.
00:31:43.820 I think another
00:31:45.300 way of looking at
00:31:45.860 this is if you're
00:31:48.480 an environmental
00:31:49.060 activist who
00:31:51.080 believes this,
00:31:52.160 then you must
00:31:53.900 conclude that it
00:31:55.860 is objectively
00:31:57.060 morally wrong
00:31:58.280 to drive a
00:32:00.000 car.
00:32:02.220 How could it
00:32:02.980 not be?
00:32:04.780 If the world is
00:32:05.720 ending in 12
00:32:06.640 years because of
00:32:07.520 this kind of
00:32:07.960 thing, it must be
00:32:09.220 objectively wrong
00:32:10.200 to do it, and
00:32:11.600 yet you continue
00:32:12.540 to do it.
00:32:13.400 And so,
00:32:14.340 so yeah, I
00:32:17.220 think that there
00:32:18.100 is, their
00:32:19.280 hypocrisy, I
00:32:20.340 think, is
00:32:20.780 quite a bit
00:32:22.640 more extreme
00:32:24.920 and pervasive.
00:32:26.580 This is from
00:32:27.680 Fish.
00:32:28.920 He says,
00:32:29.500 Hi, Matt,
00:32:29.980 huge fan of the
00:32:30.500 show.
00:32:31.700 Thank you for
00:32:32.080 your comments on
00:32:32.720 Michael Jackson.
00:32:33.480 I agree that his
00:32:34.220 legacy should be
00:32:34.880 ruined because of
00:32:35.540 his atrocities.
00:32:36.720 However, when
00:32:37.320 someone on Twitter
00:32:38.040 pointed out that
00:32:38.840 one of your
00:32:39.280 favorite authors
00:32:39.900 had a history of
00:32:40.660 stalking and
00:32:41.260 harassment, you
00:32:42.500 said, if you
00:32:43.900 only like artists
00:32:45.020 without demons,
00:32:46.120 you are really
00:32:46.720 limiting yourself.
00:32:48.000 How do you
00:32:48.520 reconcile those two
00:32:49.400 views?
00:32:49.820 Where do you
00:32:50.160 draw the line on
00:32:51.140 what demons are
00:32:51.880 acceptable and what
00:32:52.840 aren't?
00:32:53.200 Thank you.
00:32:55.180 Another great
00:32:55.880 point.
00:32:57.320 I think if I
00:32:58.400 remember that
00:32:58.940 conversation on
00:32:59.620 Twitter from
00:33:00.180 months ago, I
00:33:00.820 think that was in
00:33:01.520 reference to, I
00:33:05.680 think that was in
00:33:06.080 reference to David
00:33:06.740 Foster Wallace, I
00:33:07.840 believe, correct me
00:33:08.560 if I'm wrong, which
00:33:09.740 is one of my
00:33:10.360 favorite writers.
00:33:11.980 And he had a lot
00:33:13.120 of demons.
00:33:13.640 I mean, the guy
00:33:14.100 killed himself.
00:33:14.860 So he certainly
00:33:15.680 had a lot of
00:33:16.200 demons.
00:33:16.520 There's no
00:33:16.780 question about
00:33:17.340 that.
00:33:18.200 And he was
00:33:19.060 accused of, I
00:33:20.400 believe, essentially
00:33:21.200 stalking and
00:33:22.640 harassing another
00:33:23.580 author who he
00:33:25.080 was infatuated
00:33:27.560 with.
00:33:28.300 And I think he
00:33:28.920 had a relationship
00:33:29.480 with her on and
00:33:31.100 off again.
00:33:31.640 I'm pretty sure.
00:33:33.740 Anyway, I guess
00:33:34.800 the way that I
00:33:35.380 reconcile this is
00:33:37.700 by taking into
00:33:38.440 account two
00:33:39.140 factors.
00:33:40.600 One is the
00:33:41.800 severity of the
00:33:42.680 claim against the
00:33:44.380 person, the
00:33:44.920 seriousness of the
00:33:45.940 demon that we're
00:33:46.480 talking about, and
00:33:47.980 two, the value of
00:33:49.380 their art.
00:33:49.840 And then also
00:33:51.140 three, I guess I'll
00:33:51.820 take a third thing
00:33:52.340 into consideration,
00:33:53.960 and that would be
00:33:54.620 time.
00:33:55.820 Like, how long ago
00:33:56.840 did this person
00:33:57.580 live?
00:33:57.920 I do think that
00:33:58.720 matters.
00:33:59.140 Now, Wallace and
00:33:59.840 Michael Jackson, they
00:34:00.640 both lived and died
00:34:01.440 around the same
00:34:02.000 time.
00:34:02.520 So that isn't a
00:34:03.440 factor in this
00:34:04.060 discussion, in this
00:34:04.820 comparison.
00:34:05.720 But I do think that
00:34:06.860 the historical
00:34:07.500 proximity of the
00:34:10.440 person's life
00:34:11.860 matters to some
00:34:13.000 extent.
00:34:13.380 because if they
00:34:15.620 did a horrible
00:34:16.180 thing and their
00:34:18.560 victims are still
00:34:19.920 around and still
00:34:22.320 affected by it, then
00:34:24.680 I do think you
00:34:25.500 weigh that as
00:34:26.200 opposed to
00:34:26.980 someone, let's
00:34:28.180 say some
00:34:28.560 Renaissance artist
00:34:29.440 who lived and
00:34:31.800 died 400 years
00:34:32.840 ago.
00:34:34.500 And so, anyway,
00:34:35.240 but let's focus
00:34:35.820 on points one and
00:34:36.500 two.
00:34:37.880 I guess as far
00:34:39.280 as one goes, I
00:34:40.980 just think that
00:34:41.800 serial child
00:34:42.780 molestation is in
00:34:44.560 a whole different
00:34:45.520 league than
00:34:47.560 what, from what
00:34:48.620 someone like
00:34:49.400 Wallace was
00:34:50.020 accused of
00:34:50.540 doing.
00:34:52.000 I mean, there
00:34:52.820 are demons and
00:34:55.120 then there's being
00:34:55.660 a pedophile.
00:34:56.800 And I just think
00:34:58.200 that the two
00:34:59.080 things aren't even
00:34:59.780 close.
00:35:00.860 If Wallace was
00:35:01.960 guilty of stalking
00:35:02.960 and harassing a
00:35:03.960 woman or even
00:35:05.260 being abusive at
00:35:06.120 various points of
00:35:06.640 his life, that
00:35:07.660 matters.
00:35:08.180 I mean, it's
00:35:08.480 bad, but it
00:35:10.160 just doesn't come
00:35:10.880 anywhere close to
00:35:11.940 seeking,
00:35:12.380 grooming, and
00:35:13.400 then raping
00:35:14.220 seven-year-old
00:35:14.940 boys.
00:35:15.580 It's just, it's
00:35:16.380 not in the
00:35:17.180 same league.
00:35:18.860 It's just, it's
00:35:19.700 that you can't
00:35:21.340 even compare
00:35:22.060 them.
00:35:23.040 You can't even
00:35:24.080 put them on the
00:35:24.700 same Venn diagram.
00:35:26.040 And if you did,
00:35:26.960 there's not going
00:35:27.420 to really be
00:35:28.080 hardly anything in
00:35:28.900 that middle
00:35:29.320 bubble, right?
00:35:32.560 So, yes, I
00:35:33.740 think we have to
00:35:34.360 allow for the
00:35:35.080 fact that artists
00:35:36.020 have demons.
00:35:37.160 Everybody does.
00:35:37.940 Everyone is
00:35:38.440 flawed.
00:35:39.340 And artists,
00:35:40.120 especially per the
00:35:41.020 stereotype, tend to
00:35:41.920 be kind of
00:35:42.440 messed up.
00:35:43.380 We know that.
00:35:45.000 But child rape,
00:35:46.180 again, is
00:35:46.640 something, something
00:35:49.180 entirely different.
00:35:51.620 That's worse than
00:35:52.540 murder in my mind.
00:35:54.360 It is literally the
00:35:55.740 worst thing a person
00:35:56.680 can do.
00:35:57.520 The worst.
00:35:59.240 So where's the
00:36:00.080 line?
00:36:00.460 I don't know
00:36:01.000 exactly, but I
00:36:02.460 think the line is
00:36:03.480 somewhere before you
00:36:04.980 get to the worst
00:36:05.780 possible thing.
00:36:06.660 So Michael Jackson
00:36:07.460 did the worst
00:36:08.880 possible thing.
00:36:10.160 He was the worst
00:36:11.100 kind of person
00:36:12.300 that can exist.
00:36:17.920 And, yeah, there's
00:36:19.940 at some point you
00:36:21.000 cross a line, and
00:36:22.300 wherever that line
00:36:23.380 is, I don't know
00:36:23.920 exactly, but I am
00:36:24.820 positive that Michael
00:36:26.480 Jackson is on the
00:36:27.440 wrong side of it.
00:36:28.840 And then factor two,
00:36:30.320 I guess we don't even
00:36:30.960 need to discuss, but it
00:36:32.340 does matter.
00:36:33.160 I think Wallace was
00:36:34.640 not just a genius, but
00:36:36.440 someone who had a
00:36:37.120 profound insight into
00:36:38.200 the human condition.
00:36:39.280 He wrote things that
00:36:40.000 were often hilarious,
00:36:41.120 startling, poignant,
00:36:42.080 sometimes beautiful.
00:36:43.580 And so you do weigh
00:36:45.240 that.
00:36:46.940 You have to think, do
00:36:48.260 we want to throw this
00:36:49.240 away?
00:36:50.480 Can we afford to
00:36:51.820 throw this away?
00:36:52.860 Or is it too
00:36:53.680 valuable?
00:36:55.300 So whatever
00:36:56.220 Michelangelo is
00:36:57.460 accused of doing,
00:36:58.860 well, we cannot
00:36:59.820 afford to get rid
00:37:01.640 of the Sistine
00:37:02.240 Chapel or the
00:37:03.320 Piedra.
00:37:04.880 As a species, we
00:37:06.160 just can't afford
00:37:06.880 it.
00:37:07.120 It's too
00:37:07.620 beautiful, too
00:37:08.340 powerful, too
00:37:09.600 valuable, that
00:37:11.300 art stands on
00:37:12.780 its own, has
00:37:14.280 taken on a life
00:37:15.120 of its own, and
00:37:17.040 we can't be
00:37:17.680 without it.
00:37:18.460 It would be a
00:37:19.620 tragedy for the
00:37:20.860 human race if the
00:37:22.960 Sistine Chapel were
00:37:23.820 to crumble.
00:37:26.380 And the fact that
00:37:27.220 he lived 500 years
00:37:28.100 ago I think also
00:37:28.740 makes a difference
00:37:29.380 in my opinion.
00:37:30.500 So we have to
00:37:31.060 ask, I guess, is
00:37:33.640 thriller or
00:37:36.160 Billie Jean or
00:37:39.680 Beat It, are
00:37:41.580 these things so
00:37:42.580 incredible, so
00:37:44.560 beautiful, so
00:37:46.440 powerful, so
00:37:47.700 absolutely staggering
00:37:49.540 in their genius that
00:37:50.980 even serial child
00:37:52.720 rape, even
00:37:54.460 serial child rape,
00:37:55.460 which occurred as
00:37:56.260 recently as this past
00:37:57.320 decade, couldn't
00:37:58.440 cause us to stop
00:37:59.380 enjoying it.
00:37:59.980 I would say
00:38:02.160 no.
00:38:05.780 That's my
00:38:06.320 opinion.
00:38:07.180 Finally, from
00:38:07.840 Travis, he says,
00:38:08.760 Hi, Matt, I
00:38:09.260 always enjoy hearing
00:38:09.940 your perspective on
00:38:10.660 all things related to
00:38:11.660 the Bible and
00:38:12.340 especially enjoyed your
00:38:13.180 commentary on the
00:38:14.440 young earth theory.
00:38:15.860 Well, that makes one
00:38:16.820 of you, Travis.
00:38:20.160 In searching for
00:38:21.040 related topics, I
00:38:22.140 stumbled upon Dr.
00:38:23.800 Frank Turek of
00:38:24.720 Cross-Examined.
00:38:26.180 He seems to have a
00:38:26.900 good approach for
00:38:27.740 defending the Christian
00:38:28.480 faith.
00:38:28.860 Just curious if you
00:38:29.640 have read his
00:38:30.140 book, I Don't
00:38:31.380 Have Enough Faith
00:38:32.040 to Be an Atheist,
00:38:33.280 and hope to get
00:38:33.960 your thoughts on
00:38:34.500 his arguments.
00:38:36.540 I am familiar with
00:38:37.720 Frank Turek.
00:38:38.500 I haven't read his
00:38:39.120 book, but I've seen
00:38:40.040 some of his lectures
00:38:41.700 and some of his
00:38:42.780 debates.
00:38:43.880 I think he's a
00:38:44.220 brilliant guy, great
00:38:45.040 debater, very
00:38:45.680 impressive in that
00:38:46.420 format.
00:38:48.280 Now, I will say,
00:38:49.360 though, that I have
00:38:50.160 grown to really
00:38:51.120 dislike that
00:38:53.340 particular argument,
00:38:54.760 which is in the
00:38:55.300 title of his book,
00:38:56.300 I Don't Have Enough
00:38:57.120 Faith to Be an
00:38:57.760 Atheist, right?
00:38:58.900 And I know that
00:38:59.500 this is a theme
00:39:00.160 that Turek hammers
00:39:01.940 on all the time.
00:39:02.540 A lot of Christian
00:39:03.200 apologists, especially
00:39:04.180 these days, it's kind
00:39:05.040 of a common thing,
00:39:06.840 especially in modern
00:39:07.820 times among Christian
00:39:08.760 apologists, where they
00:39:10.340 say this thing about,
00:39:11.540 no, no, no,
00:39:12.260 atheists are the ones
00:39:13.720 who have faith.
00:39:14.940 They have too much
00:39:15.860 faith.
00:39:16.400 It takes more faith to
00:39:17.580 be an atheist than it
00:39:18.400 does to be a Christian.
00:39:19.080 I guess in Christian
00:39:22.060 apologetics, this has
00:39:23.340 been determined to be
00:39:24.440 some kind of very
00:39:25.420 powerful argument, and
00:39:27.940 I disagree.
00:39:29.840 Now, there are some
00:39:32.500 arguments that
00:39:33.240 Christians and atheists
00:39:34.340 make which the other
00:39:36.260 side finds formidable
00:39:38.140 and serious.
00:39:38.920 So, as a Christian, I
00:39:41.420 think that the atheist
00:39:42.580 arguments, arguments
00:39:44.760 like the argument from
00:39:45.600 suffering, the argument
00:39:47.160 from divine hiddenness,
00:39:48.720 these are formidable and
00:39:50.600 serious arguments from
00:39:52.260 atheists that Christians
00:39:54.240 have to grapple with.
00:39:55.840 And on the other side, I
00:39:57.380 know that even guys like
00:39:58.360 Richard Dawkins have
00:39:59.320 admitted that the fine
00:40:00.360 tuning argument, the
00:40:02.680 arguments about these
00:40:03.640 universal constants, which
00:40:05.440 make life possible, and
00:40:07.700 which seem, it seems so
00:40:09.760 highly improbable that they
00:40:11.080 could have happened on
00:40:11.780 their own.
00:40:12.120 Now, even someone like
00:40:13.040 Richard Dawkins has said
00:40:14.060 that that is a serious
00:40:15.400 argument.
00:40:16.840 But then there are
00:40:18.200 arguments that both sides
00:40:19.640 make, which the other
00:40:21.320 sides just roll their eyes
00:40:22.960 at and treat with total
00:40:24.180 disregard and contempt
00:40:25.380 because they find it to
00:40:26.380 be lazy and ridiculous.
00:40:28.640 So, as a Christian, that's
00:40:29.860 how I treat the whole
00:40:30.940 bit about God as a
00:40:33.260 magical sky fairy, right?
00:40:35.120 Christians, as an
00:40:37.440 atheist, the moment you
00:40:38.460 say that, the moment you
00:40:39.400 make that argument, every
00:40:41.260 Christian tunes you out
00:40:42.460 because it's so ridiculous,
00:40:44.380 it's so silly, it's a
00:40:45.720 childish, off-base
00:40:47.280 characterization that we
00:40:49.040 cannot possibly take
00:40:50.220 seriously.
00:40:51.000 But on the other side, I
00:40:53.660 know that atheists feel
00:40:54.880 that way about the, it
00:40:56.560 takes more faith to be an
00:40:57.760 atheist argument.
00:41:00.260 That's just not an
00:41:01.560 argument that any
00:41:03.180 atheist anywhere takes
00:41:05.400 seriously.
00:41:06.020 I would challenge you to
00:41:07.560 find one single atheist
00:41:08.960 who will say that he is,
00:41:11.280 that he's stopped in his
00:41:12.240 track by that argument.
00:41:13.660 There's not going to be an
00:41:14.320 atheist who says, well,
00:41:15.100 wait a minute, it does
00:41:16.200 take more faith for me to
00:41:17.200 be an atheist.
00:41:17.720 No, what they do when they
00:41:21.420 hear that argument is they
00:41:22.220 just roll their eyes and
00:41:23.260 they say, okay, all right,
00:41:24.720 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
00:41:25.480 yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:27.280 That's because the whole
00:41:28.300 point of atheism is that
00:41:31.700 they're saying to us, okay,
00:41:34.700 you've made a claim about the
00:41:36.180 Christian God, about Jesus,
00:41:38.880 about scripture, and so on,
00:41:41.460 and we've listened to you and
00:41:43.900 we don't believe your claim.
00:41:45.900 We don't accept it.
00:41:47.060 We just don't believe it.
00:41:48.940 We don't think you've met
00:41:50.220 the burden of proof.
00:41:51.120 We are declining to believe
00:41:53.040 what you are saying.
00:41:56.960 Much in the same way that
00:41:58.600 we as Christians will listen
00:42:01.180 to a Muslim and say, okay,
00:42:02.840 I hear what you're saying
00:42:03.640 about Muhammad and the
00:42:04.980 Quran, but I don't believe.
00:42:06.660 I do not believe what you're
00:42:08.440 saying.
00:42:08.740 That is not what I believe.
00:42:10.460 I am declining to believe in
00:42:13.660 Muhammad the prophet and in
00:42:15.660 Allah, I'm declining to
00:42:17.140 believe that.
00:42:19.720 Now, obviously, I think that
00:42:21.660 atheists should believe what
00:42:25.600 we're saying.
00:42:26.060 I think that there are good
00:42:27.000 reasons to believe what we
00:42:28.140 believe, obviously, but
00:42:29.960 declining to believe a claim
00:42:32.000 does not require faith.
00:42:34.800 It requires the lack of faith.
00:42:36.600 It's the opposite of faith.
00:42:39.900 Declining to believe what
00:42:40.880 someone is saying, that means
00:42:42.200 that you don't have faith in
00:42:43.640 what they're saying.
00:42:44.820 Maybe you should have faith
00:42:45.960 in it, but you don't.
00:42:48.060 That's the point.
00:42:49.820 And if we have any chance of
00:42:50.960 communicating with atheists and
00:42:52.420 maybe even convincing them, we
00:42:53.920 need to show that we
00:42:55.560 understand their basic
00:42:57.240 position.
00:42:57.940 You can't engage with someone
00:42:59.740 if you don't, if you're
00:43:02.360 refusing to understand what
00:43:03.820 they're saying to you.
00:43:06.300 And it's the same for them.
00:43:07.680 So that's why it totally
00:43:09.900 shuts down the conversation the
00:43:11.480 moment that an atheist goes, oh,
00:43:13.080 you just believe in a magical
00:43:14.180 sky fairy, because then as
00:43:15.420 Christians, we say, you're not
00:43:16.660 listening to us.
00:43:17.680 You're just not listening.
00:43:18.520 That's not what we're saying.
00:43:19.760 We don't believe that.
00:43:21.500 And if you insist on painting
00:43:23.440 our views in that way, we can't
00:43:25.060 have a conversation.
00:43:25.740 It's not going to work.
00:43:29.500 And it's the same thing on the
00:43:30.700 other side where atheists are
00:43:31.580 saying, no, no, that's not what
00:43:32.880 we're saying.
00:43:33.240 We're not saying that we have
00:43:34.200 faith in some other proposition.
00:43:37.020 We're just declining to believe
00:43:38.820 your proposition.
00:43:41.840 And so when a Christian says,
00:43:43.140 yeah, but you must have a lot
00:43:44.060 of faith to do that, the
00:43:45.840 atheists, all they say is, okay,
00:43:47.500 you're not listening to me.
00:43:48.520 And so that's why atheists and
00:43:49.680 Christians, they end up walking
00:43:50.480 away from each other because the
00:43:51.840 one side is saying, sky fairy.
00:43:53.200 The other side is saying, you
00:43:54.180 have more faith than us.
00:43:55.160 And then both just walk away and
00:43:56.540 say, all right, you know, it's,
00:44:01.440 I just believe strongly we need to
00:44:03.400 listen to what the other side,
00:44:04.580 just listen to it, listen to the
00:44:06.000 argument they're making at least,
00:44:07.200 and then you can engage with it.
00:44:10.700 So no, atheists don't have faith.
00:44:12.460 Atheists have a lack of faith by
00:44:14.260 definition, right?
00:44:18.240 And here's my other problem.
00:44:19.940 Not only is the atheists have more
00:44:22.480 faith than us thing, kind of a
00:44:23.980 mischaracterization and a straw man,
00:44:26.440 but here's the biggest problem.
00:44:28.600 It also turns faith into a dirty
00:44:31.060 word.
00:44:32.520 It seems almost that we're ashamed
00:44:35.420 to have faith.
00:44:36.880 And so we're saying, we don't have
00:44:38.880 faith, you do.
00:44:40.420 We're not the ones with faith, you're
00:44:41.960 the ones with faith.
00:44:44.320 Why even get into that competition?
00:44:46.580 Why are we ashamed of it?
00:44:47.820 We should be saying, yes, we do it.
00:44:49.420 You don't have faith, we do.
00:44:50.840 We're proud of it.
00:44:51.600 We're proud to have faith.
00:44:54.000 We shouldn't be trying to prove to
00:44:55.480 them that they have more faith than
00:44:56.880 us, that that is, that faith is a
00:44:59.260 virtue, right?
00:44:59.860 Why would we even be doing that?
00:45:01.460 And faith, faith must be more than
00:45:08.080 an assumption, you know, a best
00:45:14.420 guess based on the evidence, you
00:45:17.700 know, it's more than that.
00:45:19.300 We believe that faith is basically
00:45:22.640 the testimony of the Holy Spirit
00:45:25.680 within us, right?
00:45:27.220 It is the internal testimony of the
00:45:29.240 Holy Spirit.
00:45:29.640 That's what faith is.
00:45:32.980 So when we believe in God, it's not
00:45:35.960 just about having weighed the
00:45:37.840 evidence, it is also about the
00:45:39.260 internal testimony, and that's what
00:45:41.840 faith is.
00:45:43.140 So when we say that atheists have
00:45:45.220 faith, what are we saying?
00:45:46.220 That their own internal testimony
00:45:47.860 from the Holy Spirit is that God
00:45:48.880 doesn't exist?
00:45:49.360 That doesn't make any sense.
00:45:52.060 So, yeah, I appreciate him, I
00:45:55.000 appreciate a lot of Christian
00:45:56.020 apologists.
00:45:56.580 I just think that I read a lot of
00:45:59.460 this stuff, and I watch a lot of,
00:46:02.480 you know, lectures and things from
00:46:04.360 Christian apologists.
00:46:06.000 I watch a lot of debates, you know,
00:46:07.440 I'm basically obsessed with all this
00:46:08.840 stuff.
00:46:10.140 And there are certain arguments that
00:46:11.780 I've just come to, maybe loathe is
00:46:15.060 too strong a term, but I've come to
00:46:16.740 really dislike, because I find them to
00:46:19.420 be so incredibly ineffective.
00:46:21.520 Um, and, uh, and that's, that's one
00:46:26.040 of them.
00:46:26.340 But thanks for the email.
00:46:27.460 Thanks, everybody, for watching.
00:46:28.380 We'll leave it there.
00:46:29.520 Godspeed.
00:46:29.920 Hey, everybody, it's Andrew Klavan,
00:46:38.120 host of The Andrew Klavan Show.
00:46:40.100 You know, the media is trying to
00:46:41.660 cover up for Democrat
00:46:42.700 anti-Semitism by saying it's a
00:46:44.300 problem on both sides, the left and
00:46:46.000 the right.
00:46:46.540 Well, it is on the left and the
00:46:47.700 right, but the right-wing anti-Semites
00:46:49.740 are lunatics and outsiders.
00:46:51.780 The left-wing anti-Semites are in
00:46:53.740 Congress.
00:46:54.240 That's a big, big difference.
00:46:55.800 I'll talk about it on The Andrew
00:46:57.060 Klavan Show.