The Matt Walsh Show - March 06, 2019


Ep. 212 - You're Not Allowed To Dislike Female-Led Action Films, You Sexist


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

157.26485

Word Count

7,385

Sentence Count

457

Misogynist Sentences

28

Hate Speech Sentences

32


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, in case you hadn't noticed, you're not allowed to dislike female-led action movies.
00:00:06.700 You have to like them no matter what.
00:00:09.040 So with this movie Captain Marvel coming out, a feminist action movie,
00:00:12.740 feminists are going into overdrive insisting that we like it.
00:00:16.260 We have to like it, so we'll discuss that.
00:00:18.420 Also, paid family leave.
00:00:20.520 Mandated paid family leave is getting bipartisan support.
00:00:24.360 I think that it is a terrible idea, as bipartisan ideas often are, and I'll explain why.
00:00:29.200 And finally, at what point should an artist's bad actions, should the bad actions of an artist cause us to stop enjoying their art?
00:00:37.980 We'll try to get into that question as well today on the Matt Walsh Show.
00:00:46.060 One of the dumbest things about our culture, and I hesitate in saying that because I realize it's quite a statement.
00:00:54.720 There are so many dumb things to choose from, but I do believe one of the dumbest is how you aren't allowed to dislike female-led action movies.
00:01:04.800 And that's why Ghostbusters, which is more of an action comedy with big fat scare quotes around action and comedy,
00:01:10.700 but it was critically acclaimed, despite being mediocre at best, and also being an absolute swan dive in terms of quality in comparison to the originals.
00:01:21.600 And that's why Wonder Woman was praised in the kind of effusive, ecstatic, almost poetic terms that we usually reserve for Renaissance art,
00:01:32.760 because that's the way it works.
00:01:34.580 If it's a female action movie and it's bad, then you have to say that it's at least pretty good.
00:01:42.700 But if it's a female action movie that's already pretty good or decent, then it's amazing, incredible, the great, it's a cinematic achievement.
00:01:50.800 Which is why, I mean, Wonder Woman was at most, eh, okay.
00:01:56.600 The most you could possibly say about it in objective terms, but you aren't allowed to be objective when it comes to female action movies.
00:02:03.940 And now Captain Marvel is coming out.
00:02:06.000 The movie Captain Marvel with Brie Larson, the woman who said she doesn't want white men reviewing her movie,
00:02:12.460 and she promises it will be the, and I quote, the biggest feminist movie of all time, which, the biggest feminist movie of all time is a superhero movie,
00:02:23.060 which is literally the worst possible way to sell a superhero movie.
00:02:30.200 You could not think of a worse marketing pitch than that.
00:02:35.920 You may as well try to sell a horror film by saying it's the cutest love story of all time.
00:02:41.120 You're using a sales pitch that is exactly the opposite of what almost everyone in that genre's fan base wants.
00:02:48.960 But that's what Brie Larson said.
00:02:51.460 And in any case, it's a big, big feminist movie, and men aren't allowed to review it.
00:02:57.640 Others have echoed this sentiment.
00:03:00.540 Alyssa Klein is apparently a film journalist, according to her Twitter bio.
00:03:05.760 And she was on Twitter yesterday, blasting the male critics who dared to review this movie.
00:03:13.680 And not just dared to review it, but some of them, if you can believe it, gave it a negative review.
00:03:19.820 And so she was sort of busily posting all of the negative reviews from men
00:03:26.820 and trying to sick her followers on these people for daring to dislike the movie.
00:03:33.180 Meanwhile, a feminist website called The Mary Sue claimed that all of the negative reviews of this movie,
00:03:40.760 which comes out on Friday, all of the negative reviews are from men.
00:03:47.280 This has become a rallying cry among feminists, and as always with these things.
00:03:53.600 But it's not true, by the way.
00:03:56.580 There are plenty of women who have given it negative reviews as well.
00:04:00.960 But just think about the stupidity in the fact that there is even a rallying cry at all around a movie
00:04:08.960 about a magical ninja in a rubber suit who goes around shooting lasers out of her hands or eyes or whatever.
00:04:15.580 I think there are lasers involved, right, with Captain Marvel.
00:04:17.440 I'm not sure.
00:04:18.580 But usually there is with superheroes.
00:04:21.820 Now, there are articles being written about the controversy surrounding Captain Marvel reviews.
00:04:29.620 What's the controversy?
00:04:31.620 Well, the controversy is that some people didn't like it.
00:04:34.500 That's what the controversy is.
00:04:36.980 They didn't like it because, in their opinion, it just wasn't a very good movie.
00:04:40.740 As far as I'm aware, there hasn't been any review written by a man taking issue with the movie
00:04:47.320 because Brie Larson should have been in the kitchen making her man a lasagna
00:04:50.580 rather than messing around with all the superhero stuff.
00:04:52.980 Okay, that's not what anyone is saying.
00:04:55.760 No one is saying, that's man's work, woman.
00:04:58.600 Now, get rid of that cape and put on an apron.
00:05:01.140 That's where you belong.
00:05:02.200 No, that's not what no man is.
00:05:04.140 As far as I know, no man is saying that.
00:05:06.860 It's just some people have said, yeah, you know, it's not a great movie.
00:05:10.620 It's okay.
00:05:11.200 It's just not great.
00:05:11.980 I mean, that's what some people have said.
00:05:13.460 But feminists respond to that criticism with a banshee-like shrieking,
00:05:20.940 which is how they respond to everything.
00:05:22.680 Because you're not allowed to like a movie about a girl kicking butt.
00:05:26.860 If it's a butt-kicking girl movie, you're not allowed to.
00:05:30.840 You have to like it.
00:05:31.860 You cannot not like it.
00:05:34.380 Which is why it's kind of funny, and I recommend after the show,
00:05:41.360 go to Rotten Tomatoes, the review aggregator site,
00:05:46.600 and check out the reviews of this movie.
00:05:50.360 The reviews that started coming out yesterday.
00:05:53.660 Yeah, there are, like I said, there are some negative reviews,
00:05:55.800 including some negative reviews from women.
00:05:58.140 But most critics will not dare to write a fully negative review
00:06:02.680 about a female-led action movie.
00:06:04.780 They just won't do it.
00:06:06.120 Because they know that they, this is how stupid everything is,
00:06:08.660 that they know they take their careers into their hands,
00:06:11.360 if they commit the sin of disliking a movie about a woman fighting bad guys.
00:06:16.380 So what you find on Rotten Tomatoes are a bunch of critics
00:06:22.400 desperately trying to find a reason, any reason,
00:06:27.260 to give this movie a positive grade.
00:06:29.220 It's pretty clear that it's not a very good movie.
00:06:31.200 It's kind of a stupid movie.
00:06:32.680 But there are all these critics.
00:06:34.120 I think it's got like an 84%, 85% rating on Rotten Tomatoes right now
00:06:37.540 because all of these critics are trying to find,
00:06:41.000 they know they have to like it,
00:06:42.560 and so they're finding some way to like this movie.
00:06:47.260 And so let me read you some of the descriptions
00:06:49.420 from positive reviews.
00:06:52.860 Okay, these are some of the adjectives,
00:06:56.700 some of the descriptions that the positive reviews
00:07:00.240 compiled by Rotten Tomatoes have used.
00:07:04.500 Descriptions like convoluted plotting,
00:07:08.440 predictable, exhausting, shaky and confused,
00:07:14.300 flawed, a disappointment, mid-tier,
00:07:18.860 not going to reinvent the wheel,
00:07:21.340 forgettable, a work in progress.
00:07:23.680 Okay, these are the positive reviews of the movie.
00:07:26.980 These are people who didn't like the movie pretty clearly.
00:07:29.880 They thought that it was forgettable,
00:07:31.720 dull, boring, a disappointment,
00:07:33.540 but they knew that they had to give it a thumbs up anyway.
00:07:40.240 This is the bigotry of low expectations on steroids.
00:07:44.160 This is, yeah, it's a disappointment,
00:07:46.320 forgettable, dull, boring,
00:07:47.780 but it's got a lady in it.
00:07:49.600 There's a woman in it, so it must be good.
00:07:53.680 Um, the real reason for all the positive reviews
00:07:57.200 can be summed up by one of the less hesitant
00:08:02.320 positive reviews that I found.
00:08:04.660 Um, one of the reviewers said this,
00:08:06.980 we are still at the point where the visuals
00:08:09.640 of such a powerful female hero
00:08:11.980 are rare enough that its sheer existence
00:08:15.140 makes you giddy.
00:08:17.120 Okay, this is what someone said.
00:08:18.520 The sheer existence of this movie,
00:08:21.360 doesn't matter if it's good,
00:08:22.220 it doesn't matter what it's about,
00:08:23.260 just its sheer existence
00:08:24.960 is enough for you to praise it.
00:08:28.920 The thing that's so funny about that
00:08:30.640 is that, um,
00:08:32.420 I wrote my own review of Captain Marvel
00:08:34.740 and published it to the Daily Wire yesterday,
00:08:37.120 and the title of my review is, uh,
00:08:39.160 Captain Marvel is a Towering Artistic Achievement,
00:08:41.860 and the joke, of course,
00:08:43.600 is that I'm showering the movie
00:08:45.280 with ridiculous praise
00:08:46.620 simply because I don't want anyone
00:08:48.020 to call me a sexist.
00:08:49.600 Uh, even though I admit
00:08:50.700 that I haven't even seen the movie
00:08:52.000 and never planned to,
00:08:52.980 but I am heaping all this praise on it.
00:08:55.800 But let me, here's a paragraph
00:08:57.380 from my, now keep in mind
00:08:59.300 that real review, I just,
00:09:01.020 a snippet of that real review
00:09:02.060 that I just read to you.
00:09:03.340 Here's a snippet of my fake satirical review.
00:09:07.420 I said,
00:09:08.360 does Brie Larson do a good job
00:09:10.460 acting in the movie?
00:09:12.180 Well, your question is stunningly misogynistic.
00:09:15.160 Brie Larson isn't there to impress you.
00:09:17.060 You have no right to judge her performance.
00:09:19.920 She's not a puppet dancing on your string,
00:09:22.420 you scum.
00:09:23.720 All you need to know is that Larson is there,
00:09:26.420 in the film, existing, breathing, being.
00:09:30.620 Her performance was already magnificent
00:09:32.360 before she stepped one foot onto the set.
00:09:35.020 Her performance was inspiring and beautiful
00:09:37.140 even before she was born.
00:09:39.020 This moment, this movie,
00:09:40.880 was written in the stars,
00:09:42.800 destined from the beginning of time.
00:09:44.280 Now, I didn't read that other real review
00:09:47.300 before writing that.
00:09:48.380 I meant it as a joke.
00:09:50.700 That Brie Larson's sheer existence in the film
00:09:53.800 is enough reason to love it.
00:09:55.320 But then some real film reviewer
00:09:57.620 actually made that same point
00:09:59.880 in all seriousness.
00:10:02.540 My God.
00:10:03.140 Of course, the other meme
00:10:07.080 that you get with these movies
00:10:08.280 is that angry,
00:10:10.180 what you always hear
00:10:10.960 is the same thing with Ghostbusters.
00:10:12.080 What you always hear
00:10:12.780 is what the media says,
00:10:15.280 well, it's a bunch of angry white men.
00:10:18.440 A bunch of angry white men
00:10:20.020 are losing their minds over this movie.
00:10:21.860 They hate that this movie is out there.
00:10:24.260 In fact, right on cue,
00:10:25.920 the Daily Beast has an article
00:10:27.220 with that title verbatim.
00:10:29.580 The title is
00:10:30.260 How Brie Larson's Captain Marvel
00:10:32.140 Made Angry White Men Lose Their Damn Minds.
00:10:35.940 Meanwhile,
00:10:37.220 no man is losing his mind over this.
00:10:41.260 Men are just going,
00:10:42.680 eh, okay, it's not great.
00:10:44.240 You know, I, hmm.
00:10:45.380 That's what men are doing.
00:10:47.540 That's being called losing their minds.
00:10:49.300 But men are just saying, eh.
00:10:52.600 Feminists are the ones
00:10:53.700 who are losing their minds.
00:10:55.040 So the way that the conversation goes is
00:10:57.060 men say, yeah, you know, didn't love it.
00:11:00.780 And then feminists say,
00:11:02.020 why didn't you love it?
00:11:03.020 You sexist, you pig, you scum.
00:11:05.320 Why don't you die?
00:11:07.080 And then men say, okay, okay, take it easy.
00:11:09.100 And then feminists say,
00:11:09.940 why are you so angry?
00:11:11.440 Calm down.
00:11:13.200 That's the way that the conversation always goes.
00:11:15.600 So, um,
00:11:17.200 what is this all about?
00:11:21.440 Why, why does it, you know,
00:11:22.840 now every time there's a,
00:11:24.140 one of these female action movies,
00:11:25.540 which, which by the way, is nothing new.
00:11:27.060 Uh, you know,
00:11:28.320 there, there have been female-led action movies
00:11:30.480 for decades.
00:11:32.080 Kill Bill came out in what?
00:11:33.820 Like 2002 or three.
00:11:36.180 Um, and, uh,
00:11:37.420 that was a female-led,
00:11:39.140 led action movie.
00:11:40.380 And there have been,
00:11:41.400 there have been plenty before,
00:11:42.560 since and before that.
00:11:44.220 But why has it now become this,
00:11:46.440 uh, why is it now this,
00:11:48.040 this whole thing where it comes out,
00:11:49.720 it's this whole event
00:11:50.600 and everyone has to pretend to like it.
00:11:52.020 Well,
00:11:53.080 I think it just shows
00:11:54.920 the incredible insecurity
00:11:56.640 of feminists,
00:11:58.140 yet again.
00:11:59.680 Um,
00:12:00.080 insecurity is what drives
00:12:02.140 most of their positions.
00:12:04.540 Um,
00:12:05.220 most of what they do and say
00:12:06.880 really just comes down to insecurity.
00:12:09.700 Feminists are insecure
00:12:11.160 about the fact that
00:12:13.480 they themselves are not men.
00:12:16.280 This has always been
00:12:17.820 the paradox of feminism
00:12:19.540 is that they hate men,
00:12:21.360 but they also want to be men.
00:12:23.280 They hate men
00:12:24.060 because they themselves
00:12:25.420 are not men
00:12:26.360 and they wish they were.
00:12:27.480 Which is pretty typical,
00:12:28.520 I guess.
00:12:28.840 Maybe it's not even paradoxical.
00:12:30.440 It's pretty typical that when you,
00:12:32.320 uh,
00:12:32.640 that people generally hate
00:12:34.560 whoever they are envious of.
00:12:38.660 And so they see,
00:12:40.160 what they see is that,
00:12:41.380 uh,
00:12:41.600 is that men have a lot of action movies.
00:12:43.660 Um,
00:12:45.080 there are a lot of action hero men
00:12:46.900 and so they want their own.
00:12:49.120 The only reason they want it
00:12:50.980 is because men have it.
00:12:52.660 That's the only reason.
00:12:53.860 It's not because they find anything
00:12:55.880 objectively good about it or anything.
00:12:57.940 It's just they want it
00:12:58.960 because men have it.
00:13:01.420 And then they want theirs
00:13:03.040 to be just as good.
00:13:05.280 And if you say that theirs
00:13:06.740 isn't just as good
00:13:07.900 or if it's,
00:13:08.500 or whatever,
00:13:09.340 uh,
00:13:09.780 they have,
00:13:10.340 they have a temper tantrum over it
00:13:11.760 and that's the way it goes.
00:13:12.920 It's the same thing
00:13:13.940 that I mentioned before.
00:13:16.040 Feminists are very insecure
00:13:17.560 about,
00:13:19.020 um,
00:13:19.600 the fact that
00:13:20.840 about,
00:13:22.060 about,
00:13:22.440 you know,
00:13:22.800 sense about,
00:13:23.340 about humor,
00:13:24.280 uh,
00:13:24.900 comedy.
00:13:26.600 And
00:13:27.080 they know that
00:13:29.000 most of the greatest comedians
00:13:31.240 in,
00:13:31.520 in,
00:13:31.800 in,
00:13:32.000 in history have been men.
00:13:34.140 Uh,
00:13:34.620 most of the funniest movies
00:13:36.100 that have come out
00:13:36.820 have been written by men,
00:13:38.800 directed by men,
00:13:39.740 starring men.
00:13:40.440 And,
00:13:42.620 uh,
00:13:42.820 so they have a,
00:13:43.700 they,
00:13:44.840 they,
00:13:45.000 they get very insecure
00:13:45.800 about that.
00:13:47.300 And they insist,
00:13:48.360 no,
00:13:48.540 no,
00:13:48.720 we,
00:13:49.000 men are funny.
00:13:50.080 Men have funny things.
00:13:50.960 We need to,
00:13:51.380 we need to have funny things too
00:13:52.380 because we need to be just like men.
00:13:54.560 And so they have their own comedians
00:13:56.300 and their own movies
00:13:57.120 and,
00:13:57.480 and some of their comedians
00:13:58.460 are,
00:13:58.740 are legitimately funny
00:13:59.760 and some of their movies
00:14:01.080 are legitimately funny,
00:14:02.020 but some of them really aren't.
00:14:04.160 But you're not allowed to say that.
00:14:05.420 You have to pretend,
00:14:06.260 right?
00:14:07.940 When,
00:14:08.160 when,
00:14:08.480 when someone like Amy Schumer
00:14:09.760 comes along
00:14:10.440 and,
00:14:10.700 and really she's not funny at all
00:14:11.980 and has no actual real jokes,
00:14:13.800 but you have to pretend,
00:14:15.440 well,
00:14:15.520 she's a woman though.
00:14:16.340 So we have to grade her on a curve
00:14:17.680 and pretend that she's,
00:14:18.800 uh,
00:14:18.940 that she's funny.
00:14:19.540 So that's,
00:14:20.280 that's what it comes down to.
00:14:21.120 It's just kind of this,
00:14:21.920 uh,
00:14:22.260 really silly insecurity
00:14:23.500 on the part of feminists.
00:14:26.560 All right.
00:14:27.260 Uh,
00:14:27.640 switching gears here.
00:14:28.460 I want to talk about,
00:14:29.300 um,
00:14:30.340 something that has been gaining
00:14:32.360 a lot of,
00:14:33.800 uh,
00:14:34.000 steam recently.
00:14:34.940 And that is the issue
00:14:37.160 of paid family leave.
00:14:39.700 Okay.
00:14:40.280 Paid family leave is an idea
00:14:42.420 that is,
00:14:43.220 uh,
00:14:43.420 gaining bipartisan support,
00:14:45.120 which is,
00:14:45.980 which you should always be,
00:14:47.380 what the media tells us
00:14:48.700 is that anytime something
00:14:49.780 is getting bipartisan support,
00:14:51.300 that means it's probably
00:14:52.640 a good idea
00:14:53.460 and we should pay attention to it.
00:14:54.660 Uh,
00:14:55.220 but in reality,
00:14:56.080 it goes the other way
00:14:57.400 is that when,
00:14:58.600 when something is getting
00:14:59.440 bipartisan support,
00:15:00.480 that's when you should be
00:15:01.440 really suspicious of it.
00:15:02.640 because I mean,
00:15:05.480 it's bad enough
00:15:06.220 when one group of idiots
00:15:07.380 likes a certain proposal,
00:15:08.760 but when both groups
00:15:10.480 of idiots like it,
00:15:11.660 well then now,
00:15:12.620 you know,
00:15:12.820 it must be really bad.
00:15:14.180 Right.
00:15:15.420 Uh,
00:15:15.900 but it's,
00:15:16.960 you know,
00:15:17.480 it is getting a lot of,
00:15:18.360 Democrats love the idea.
00:15:19.980 Republicans are getting behind it.
00:15:21.660 Trump is in favor of it.
00:15:23.240 Um,
00:15:23.820 I was at CPAC last week
00:15:25.320 and Rick Santorum
00:15:26.340 was there
00:15:26.940 stumping for,
00:15:28.380 for,
00:15:28.980 um,
00:15:29.200 paid family leave.
00:15:29.980 He had this big sign
00:15:31.400 that was out near,
00:15:32.320 um,
00:15:32.580 broad,
00:15:33.040 broad crack.
00:15:34.200 It's called broadcast row
00:15:35.360 where all the,
00:15:35.820 um,
00:15:37.320 you know,
00:15:37.880 TV stations and radio stations
00:15:39.400 and stuff are set up at CPAC.
00:15:40.620 And he had this big sign there
00:15:42.040 that said,
00:15:43.640 uh,
00:15:43.800 something like paid family leave
00:15:45.120 is a conservative position
00:15:47.000 or conservative priority.
00:15:49.620 Now,
00:15:50.360 paid family leave,
00:15:51.320 of course,
00:15:51.780 is not a new idea.
00:15:53.840 Uh,
00:15:54.120 many employers
00:15:55.300 offer paid leave
00:15:56.680 to their employees
00:15:57.400 for maternity,
00:15:58.540 sickness,
00:15:58.840 other medical
00:15:59.760 or family issues
00:16:00.720 and so on.
00:16:02.040 But some employers
00:16:03.660 don't offer it.
00:16:05.140 Um,
00:16:05.680 especially small employers,
00:16:07.460 small businesses
00:16:08.240 often cannot afford it
00:16:10.660 because if you've got
00:16:12.260 a small business
00:16:13.080 and,
00:16:14.320 um,
00:16:15.700 you've only got
00:16:16.980 five employees,
00:16:18.440 you probably
00:16:20.480 can't afford
00:16:21.600 to pay
00:16:22.140 one of your employees
00:16:23.040 to be gone
00:16:23.820 for five weeks.
00:16:24.700 You just can't afford it.
00:16:26.020 You don't have
00:16:26.520 the resources for that,
00:16:27.740 especially because
00:16:29.060 when you pay
00:16:30.520 your employee
00:16:31.020 to be gone
00:16:31.480 for five weeks,
00:16:32.160 you also have
00:16:32.860 to pay someone else
00:16:34.220 to temporarily
00:16:34.820 come in
00:16:35.680 and,
00:16:37.240 uh,
00:16:37.440 take that person's
00:16:38.260 place.
00:16:40.440 And so now
00:16:41.140 it's double the cost
00:16:41.940 and you just can't
00:16:42.520 afford it.
00:16:44.960 But Republicans
00:16:45.780 and Democrats
00:16:46.420 now want
00:16:48.060 to mandate it.
00:16:50.260 And that's the way
00:16:51.080 it always works
00:16:51.540 with government,
00:16:52.020 right?
00:16:52.180 They see how,
00:16:53.080 uh,
00:16:53.900 there's a certain thing
00:16:54.960 that isn't happening
00:16:56.960 or at least
00:16:59.120 isn't happening
00:16:59.720 enough,
00:17:00.140 according to them.
00:17:02.000 And it's not
00:17:02.840 happening enough
00:17:04.000 because it just,
00:17:05.200 people can't afford it.
00:17:05.940 They can't do it.
00:17:06.460 And so the solution
00:17:08.000 from our,
00:17:08.940 from our illustrious
00:17:09.660 politicians
00:17:10.140 is to just mandate it.
00:17:11.800 It's to say,
00:17:12.600 oh,
00:17:12.800 well,
00:17:12.980 you can't afford it.
00:17:13.700 Well,
00:17:13.780 you have to do it now.
00:17:15.360 Now that's how
00:17:16.120 we'll solve that problem.
00:17:18.240 They want
00:17:19.060 to tell employers
00:17:20.660 that they must
00:17:22.700 offer paid
00:17:23.780 family leave
00:17:24.320 and not just
00:17:25.800 that they must,
00:17:26.620 but these
00:17:27.380 politicians
00:17:28.040 are going
00:17:28.660 to mandate
00:17:29.320 how much
00:17:30.040 time will be
00:17:30.780 offered
00:17:31.100 and for what
00:17:32.660 reasons.
00:17:33.500 And they're going
00:17:34.200 to set all
00:17:34.700 the other
00:17:35.060 parameters as well,
00:17:36.460 right?
00:17:37.500 So they are
00:17:38.700 sitting up
00:17:40.200 on their perch
00:17:40.960 in D.C.
00:17:41.560 They're surveying
00:17:42.420 the whole landscape
00:17:43.400 and declaring
00:17:45.020 what everyone
00:17:45.920 should do.
00:17:46.480 They're making
00:17:46.820 their declaration.
00:17:48.400 This is what
00:17:48.880 everybody has
00:17:50.020 to do.
00:17:51.580 Not taking
00:17:52.540 into account
00:17:53.300 individual cases,
00:17:55.660 not taking
00:17:56.060 into account
00:17:56.500 exceptions,
00:17:57.580 not taking
00:17:58.040 into account
00:17:58.640 the situation,
00:18:00.520 the actual
00:18:00.900 real-world
00:18:01.540 situations
00:18:02.180 that employers
00:18:03.120 find themselves
00:18:03.900 in,
00:18:04.400 not taking
00:18:05.020 anything
00:18:05.420 into account
00:18:06.200 but the
00:18:06.620 political
00:18:07.040 spectacle
00:18:07.620 of it.
00:18:09.000 All that
00:18:09.760 they care
00:18:10.260 about
00:18:10.580 is that
00:18:11.360 the voters
00:18:12.100 will see
00:18:13.760 them,
00:18:14.840 will see
00:18:16.000 the politicians
00:18:16.720 trying to
00:18:17.760 give them,
00:18:18.860 the voters,
00:18:19.480 something.
00:18:19.740 That's all
00:18:20.400 that they
00:18:20.940 want.
00:18:23.380 Now,
00:18:23.980 there are
00:18:24.200 different ideas
00:18:24.860 for how to
00:18:25.600 structure this
00:18:26.340 kind of
00:18:26.680 entitlement
00:18:27.040 plan,
00:18:28.120 and it is
00:18:28.720 certainly an
00:18:29.200 entitlement
00:18:29.540 plan.
00:18:32.200 It's literally
00:18:33.160 an entitlement.
00:18:34.340 Politicians are
00:18:35.120 saying everybody
00:18:36.020 is entitled
00:18:37.300 to three or
00:18:38.700 five or
00:18:39.200 twelve weeks
00:18:39.800 of a paid
00:18:40.320 family leave.
00:18:41.780 Different ideas
00:18:42.520 on how to
00:18:42.820 structure it,
00:18:43.380 different ideas
00:18:43.880 on how to
00:18:44.160 fund it,
00:18:44.700 but no
00:18:46.560 matter what,
00:18:47.500 it will
00:18:47.860 be costly.
00:18:49.080 No matter
00:18:49.740 what,
00:18:50.360 private citizens
00:18:51.300 and businesses
00:18:52.340 will be footing
00:18:53.480 the bill for
00:18:54.040 this thing,
00:18:54.800 whether they
00:18:55.440 can afford
00:18:56.000 it or not.
00:18:57.400 And remember,
00:18:58.120 the whole
00:18:58.700 reason why
00:18:59.780 some employers
00:19:01.160 don't have
00:19:01.860 paid family
00:19:02.300 leave is
00:19:03.040 because they
00:19:03.540 can't afford
00:19:04.280 it.
00:19:05.520 I'm sure
00:19:06.220 that if you
00:19:06.720 have a business
00:19:07.560 with five
00:19:08.080 employees,
00:19:08.840 you would
00:19:09.320 love it if
00:19:10.220 you actually
00:19:10.720 had a business
00:19:11.280 with 500
00:19:12.080 employees and
00:19:12.840 you could afford
00:19:13.340 to do something,
00:19:13.920 but that's
00:19:14.700 just not the
00:19:15.260 situation that
00:19:15.960 you're in.
00:19:18.620 It is my,
00:19:20.300 call me an
00:19:20.940 optimist,
00:19:21.640 but you'd be
00:19:23.380 the first to
00:19:23.840 ever call me
00:19:24.220 that,
00:19:24.520 but call me
00:19:25.000 an optimist.
00:19:25.480 I don't think
00:19:26.340 that there are
00:19:26.740 very many
00:19:27.300 employers out
00:19:28.440 there who
00:19:30.760 decline to
00:19:31.520 offer paid
00:19:32.260 leave just
00:19:35.380 because they're
00:19:36.340 like, you
00:19:37.360 know,
00:19:37.640 Grinches or
00:19:38.640 Scrooges or
00:19:39.680 whatever,
00:19:40.220 and they just
00:19:41.420 don't offer
00:19:42.180 it because
00:19:42.720 they want
00:19:43.620 to see
00:19:43.940 their
00:19:44.160 employees
00:19:44.640 suffering.
00:19:47.300 You know,
00:19:47.840 when I think
00:19:48.440 of private
00:19:49.440 business owners,
00:19:50.380 I don't,
00:19:51.020 unlike a lot
00:19:52.180 of people,
00:19:52.660 I don't
00:19:53.080 imagine some
00:19:55.360 evil old
00:19:57.100 white guy,
00:19:58.020 you know,
00:19:58.620 chomping on
00:19:59.140 his cigar,
00:20:00.040 sitting behind
00:20:00.600 a big oak
00:20:01.600 desk,
00:20:02.700 you know,
00:20:02.960 petting his
00:20:03.400 white cat
00:20:04.040 and laughing
00:20:05.360 maniacally to
00:20:06.220 himself when
00:20:06.820 he thinks
00:20:07.140 about all
00:20:07.600 the,
00:20:08.060 all the,
00:20:08.720 all of his
00:20:09.520 employees who
00:20:10.960 he's not
00:20:11.440 giving paid
00:20:12.060 leave to.
00:20:12.640 That's not
00:20:13.160 what I
00:20:13.440 imagine.
00:20:13.940 When I think
00:20:14.560 of business
00:20:14.900 owners,
00:20:15.260 I think most
00:20:16.120 of them are
00:20:16.500 just,
00:20:16.840 you know,
00:20:17.020 they own
00:20:17.600 small to
00:20:18.340 medium-sized
00:20:18.980 businesses and
00:20:20.300 they're trying
00:20:20.700 to make it
00:20:21.140 by,
00:20:22.060 and it's,
00:20:24.280 you know,
00:20:24.820 they don't
00:20:25.340 have a lot
00:20:25.780 of room to
00:20:26.280 work with,
00:20:27.200 and if
00:20:28.660 they're not
00:20:29.420 offering these
00:20:30.300 kinds of
00:20:31.060 programs,
00:20:32.040 it's because
00:20:32.640 they just
00:20:33.080 can't.
00:20:34.240 They'd love
00:20:34.860 to,
00:20:35.160 but they
00:20:35.520 can't.
00:20:37.700 So,
00:20:38.580 I think when
00:20:40.200 we talk about
00:20:41.140 something like
00:20:41.560 this,
00:20:42.060 we don't
00:20:44.000 even need to
00:20:44.560 get into
00:20:44.940 the cost
00:20:45.620 of it.
00:20:46.080 We don't
00:20:46.280 even need to
00:20:46.740 get into
00:20:47.020 the practical
00:20:47.740 aspects,
00:20:48.560 which is,
00:20:48.860 which is an
00:20:49.220 important aspect,
00:20:50.080 of course,
00:20:50.900 and I think
00:20:51.620 it is,
00:20:52.080 the cost
00:20:52.740 alone is
00:20:53.320 prohibitive,
00:20:53.780 but I think
00:20:56.540 that's not
00:20:57.440 really the
00:20:57.920 point.
00:20:59.360 There is
00:21:00.160 rather,
00:21:00.720 I would say,
00:21:01.480 a philosophical
00:21:02.460 question here,
00:21:03.980 and it's a
00:21:05.040 philosophical
00:21:05.540 question that
00:21:07.040 at some
00:21:07.680 point we
00:21:08.320 just sort
00:21:09.040 of stopped
00:21:09.620 asking ourselves,
00:21:10.560 but I
00:21:10.920 think we
00:21:11.200 need to
00:21:11.440 ask ourselves
00:21:11.960 this question,
00:21:13.160 and that
00:21:14.040 is,
00:21:15.080 what is
00:21:16.720 the point
00:21:17.340 of government?
00:21:20.000 You know,
00:21:20.360 fundamentally,
00:21:21.680 what is
00:21:22.640 government
00:21:23.100 supposed to
00:21:23.820 do?
00:21:24.080 Why do
00:21:24.600 we have
00:21:25.000 a government?
00:21:25.780 What is
00:21:26.320 its job?
00:21:28.980 And I
00:21:29.500 really think
00:21:30.320 that a lot
00:21:31.200 of people,
00:21:32.140 they go their
00:21:33.620 whole lives,
00:21:34.220 they never ask
00:21:34.940 themselves that
00:21:35.520 question.
00:21:35.760 they never
00:21:36.520 develop any
00:21:37.440 sense of,
00:21:38.260 any idea of
00:21:39.340 what the
00:21:40.020 government even
00:21:40.680 is, or what
00:21:41.520 it's supposed
00:21:41.940 to do, yet
00:21:43.160 they still have
00:21:43.740 all these
00:21:44.200 opinions about
00:21:46.160 different policies
00:21:47.040 they support,
00:21:47.800 and different
00:21:48.060 laws, and
00:21:48.620 everything, and
00:21:49.340 it's all kind
00:21:49.860 of haphazard,
00:21:51.320 and, you
00:21:53.660 know, they
00:21:53.920 just, they
00:21:56.260 come up with
00:21:57.060 their positions
00:21:58.800 and their
00:21:59.140 opinions, it's
00:21:59.700 all isolated,
00:22:01.440 right?
00:22:01.900 There's nothing
00:22:02.480 coherent about
00:22:03.440 it.
00:22:03.620 I think most
00:22:05.020 people don't
00:22:05.520 bother coming
00:22:06.140 up with a
00:22:06.720 coherent kind
00:22:08.640 of philosophy
00:22:10.000 of government.
00:22:13.180 Well, fortunately,
00:22:14.700 our founding
00:22:15.200 fathers did
00:22:16.100 bother coming
00:22:17.220 up with a
00:22:17.740 coherent
00:22:18.040 philosophy of
00:22:18.780 government, and
00:22:20.060 their philosophy
00:22:21.320 was that
00:22:21.920 government exists
00:22:23.220 to protect our
00:22:24.540 liberty, you
00:22:25.560 know, to
00:22:25.740 protect our
00:22:26.260 rights.
00:22:26.720 That's why we
00:22:27.480 have government.
00:22:28.040 That is the
00:22:28.520 fundamental
00:22:29.140 philosophical
00:22:30.980 reason why
00:22:33.600 government
00:22:34.120 exists.
00:22:36.220 I think most
00:22:37.240 people today,
00:22:38.120 although, again,
00:22:38.800 they don't
00:22:39.000 really stop to
00:22:39.600 think about
00:22:40.020 it, they
00:22:40.220 don't come
00:22:40.500 up with a
00:22:40.880 coherent idea
00:22:41.800 of it, but
00:22:42.300 when it comes
00:22:42.700 down to it,
00:22:44.220 what they
00:22:44.920 really think
00:22:45.780 is that the
00:22:46.440 government
00:22:46.720 exists to
00:22:47.460 protect, fund,
00:22:48.860 facilitate our
00:22:50.200 lifestyles and
00:22:51.900 our comfort.
00:22:53.860 Government
00:22:54.420 exists to
00:22:55.260 provide for
00:22:56.660 us.
00:22:57.740 Government
00:22:58.000 is sort of
00:22:58.880 the ultimate
00:23:01.200 daddy.
00:23:01.840 it's everyone's
00:23:05.100 daddy that's
00:23:06.280 just up there
00:23:07.000 and giving us
00:23:07.840 what we need.
00:23:09.300 That's the
00:23:09.900 idea of
00:23:10.500 government that
00:23:11.040 a lot of
00:23:11.460 people have.
00:23:12.560 And when you
00:23:13.040 have that idea
00:23:13.860 of government,
00:23:14.440 then I guess it
00:23:15.040 makes sense.
00:23:15.780 Something like
00:23:16.260 paid family
00:23:16.700 leave, in that
00:23:17.180 case, just
00:23:18.220 makes a whole
00:23:18.780 lot of sense.
00:23:22.200 Because it
00:23:23.640 would make our
00:23:24.240 lives a lot
00:23:24.800 easier if we
00:23:25.900 had paid family
00:23:26.580 leave.
00:23:27.320 It would make
00:23:28.020 us a lot more
00:23:28.620 comfortable, and
00:23:30.860 so the
00:23:31.200 government should
00:23:31.720 give us that.
00:23:33.260 Because that's
00:23:34.900 the argument that
00:23:36.380 most people
00:23:36.940 have.
00:23:38.500 It's just, it
00:23:39.860 would be nice to
00:23:40.680 have that thing,
00:23:41.500 it would make my
00:23:42.080 life easier, and
00:23:43.060 so the government
00:23:43.920 should see that I
00:23:44.800 have it.
00:23:45.180 That's all.
00:23:47.020 Why should I need
00:23:48.040 any more reason
00:23:48.720 than that?
00:23:49.340 It's something that
00:23:50.220 I want, it would
00:23:51.740 be good for me,
00:23:53.000 it would help me,
00:23:54.140 and so the
00:23:55.680 government should
00:23:56.140 give it to me.
00:23:58.840 And that's why
00:23:59.600 when you have
00:24:00.060 this discussion,
00:24:01.580 and you, you
00:24:03.820 know, you take
00:24:04.300 the position that
00:24:05.040 no, I don't, I
00:24:05.540 don't think the
00:24:05.880 government should
00:24:06.320 provide that.
00:24:08.000 A lot of people,
00:24:09.380 when they hear you
00:24:10.300 make that argument,
00:24:11.620 they're going to
00:24:13.740 respond by
00:24:14.700 explaining why
00:24:16.240 that thing itself
00:24:17.440 is good.
00:24:18.140 So like, you'll
00:24:19.260 say, no, I don't
00:24:19.780 think the government
00:24:20.300 should provide
00:24:21.140 paid family leave.
00:24:22.780 And so the
00:24:24.040 response will be,
00:24:25.060 yeah, but paid
00:24:25.560 family leave is
00:24:26.120 good.
00:24:26.400 It would really
00:24:26.740 help me.
00:24:27.460 They respond by
00:24:28.980 explaining all the
00:24:30.080 ways that paid
00:24:31.900 family leave is
00:24:32.600 good.
00:24:33.040 Well, no, but
00:24:33.540 no, you're not
00:24:34.600 arguing that there's
00:24:35.500 anything wrong with
00:24:36.180 paid family leave
00:24:37.080 itself.
00:24:37.840 Paid family leave
00:24:38.500 is great.
00:24:39.980 You're just arguing
00:24:40.940 that the government
00:24:41.540 shouldn't mandate
00:24:42.440 it.
00:24:44.380 That's the point.
00:24:46.480 Just like, I
00:24:47.820 don't think that the
00:24:48.500 government should be
00:24:49.080 involved in health
00:24:49.800 care.
00:24:50.180 I'm not against
00:24:51.100 health care.
00:24:51.700 I think health care
00:24:52.220 is great.
00:24:53.160 I think it's great
00:24:53.760 for people to go to
00:24:54.240 the doctor.
00:24:54.720 I think everyone,
00:24:55.180 it's a wonderful
00:24:56.840 thing.
00:24:57.460 Modern medicine is a
00:24:58.500 wonderful thing.
00:24:59.780 I just don't think
00:25:00.280 the government should
00:25:00.900 be involved in it.
00:25:03.720 But there's that
00:25:04.800 nuance, that really
00:25:06.920 obvious and important
00:25:08.240 nuance, right?
00:25:09.240 That obvious
00:25:10.260 distinction that
00:25:12.200 many people in our
00:25:13.240 country today don't
00:25:14.740 understand.
00:25:15.580 They don't understand
00:25:16.800 the difference between
00:25:18.600 opposing something in
00:25:20.180 and of itself and
00:25:23.440 opposing the
00:25:24.360 government's
00:25:24.900 involvement in
00:25:27.220 that thing.
00:25:28.860 They cannot
00:25:31.640 comprehend the
00:25:32.620 difference.
00:25:33.960 And that's why we
00:25:37.160 just, instead of,
00:25:38.220 we need to get
00:25:39.740 control of the
00:25:40.260 entitlement state,
00:25:41.120 we need to get
00:25:43.220 control of our debt
00:25:44.000 problem.
00:25:44.720 That's what we need
00:25:45.420 to do.
00:25:45.840 But instead, we keep
00:25:46.660 going in the opposite
00:25:47.360 direction.
00:25:47.800 more debt and
00:25:48.600 more entitlement.
00:25:51.640 And a lot of it is
00:25:53.240 because of this
00:25:53.880 fundamental confusion
00:25:55.060 that plagues many,
00:25:57.800 many voters.
00:26:01.940 All right, let's
00:26:03.940 see.
00:26:05.440 Something else I
00:26:06.340 wanted to mention.
00:26:09.740 Maybe I'll save
00:26:10.280 this for tomorrow.
00:26:11.460 But Sean Oakman
00:26:13.620 is a former
00:26:14.640 football player
00:26:17.140 at Baylor
00:26:17.620 University.
00:26:18.880 And he was
00:26:19.480 supposed to be
00:26:21.560 potentially a
00:26:23.400 first-round draft
00:26:24.360 pick in the NFL.
00:26:25.080 NFL, but he
00:26:26.620 was accused
00:26:28.400 of and
00:26:28.960 charged with
00:26:29.740 raping a
00:26:30.620 woman.
00:26:31.680 And this was
00:26:32.460 like two or
00:26:32.880 three years
00:26:33.240 ago.
00:26:34.200 And it
00:26:34.720 completely
00:26:35.040 derailed his
00:26:35.640 career.
00:26:36.000 He wasn't
00:26:36.300 drafted by the
00:26:37.000 NFL.
00:26:38.380 So he's been
00:26:38.800 out of football
00:26:39.300 now for three
00:26:40.020 years.
00:26:41.040 And just a
00:26:42.020 couple of days
00:26:42.560 ago, he was
00:26:43.440 found not guilty
00:26:44.400 of sexual
00:26:46.060 assault.
00:26:47.900 And whether
00:26:50.440 or not he'll
00:26:51.000 be able to
00:26:51.740 get his
00:26:53.220 career back
00:26:53.900 remains to be
00:26:54.660 seen.
00:26:55.760 But this is
00:26:56.480 an interesting
00:26:56.980 case.
00:26:58.500 And it
00:26:58.800 shows the
00:26:59.680 consequences
00:27:03.280 of an
00:27:04.700 accusation,
00:27:05.520 even if it's
00:27:06.560 a false
00:27:07.360 accusation.
00:27:08.700 But I think
00:27:09.140 we'll, because
00:27:10.660 there are a few
00:27:11.020 interesting emails
00:27:11.700 I want to get
00:27:12.140 to, I think
00:27:12.700 we'll save
00:27:13.060 that discussion
00:27:13.580 for tomorrow.
00:27:15.160 Because I want
00:27:15.720 to get into
00:27:16.100 that in more
00:27:17.380 detail, into
00:27:18.420 the specifics
00:27:18.980 of this particular
00:27:20.260 case.
00:27:21.400 Let's go to
00:27:21.900 emails.
00:27:22.220 mattwalsshow
00:27:23.400 at gmail.com,
00:27:24.460 mattwalsshow
00:27:24.980 at gmail.com
00:27:25.900 is the email
00:27:26.380 address.
00:27:27.940 This is from
00:27:28.900 Matt.
00:27:30.200 We had a
00:27:30.600 Matt write
00:27:31.000 in yesterday,
00:27:31.680 so the
00:27:32.680 Matt's are
00:27:33.080 all uniting.
00:27:33.680 I think
00:27:33.820 that's great.
00:27:34.640 This is from
00:27:34.920 a different
00:27:35.220 Matt.
00:27:35.520 He says,
00:27:35.860 you talked
00:27:36.160 at length
00:27:36.540 today about
00:27:37.060 how
00:27:37.520 Alexandria
00:27:38.260 Cezo-Cortez
00:27:38.920 does not
00:27:39.660 appear to
00:27:40.040 take her
00:27:40.360 own doomsday
00:27:41.120 prophecies
00:27:41.720 seriously
00:27:42.360 because she
00:27:43.360 continues to
00:27:44.280 utilize
00:27:44.900 supposedly
00:27:45.520 world-ending
00:27:46.100 technologies.
00:27:47.800 If she
00:27:48.000 really thought
00:27:48.560 cars and
00:27:49.160 planes were
00:27:49.600 destroying the
00:27:50.080 planet,
00:27:50.440 you say,
00:27:50.780 she'd be
00:27:51.080 screaming at the
00:27:51.620 top of her
00:27:51.980 lungs in fear
00:27:52.740 and or anger
00:27:53.520 or at least
00:27:54.460 taking the
00:27:54.880 metro more
00:27:55.360 often.
00:27:56.300 I couldn't
00:27:56.620 help but notice
00:27:57.120 a correlation
00:27:57.700 between the
00:27:58.260 way AOC
00:27:58.940 chooses to
00:27:59.600 live despite
00:28:00.060 her beliefs
00:28:00.580 and the way
00:28:00.980 pro-lifers live
00:28:02.040 despite theirs.
00:28:02.860 I, for
00:28:03.120 instance,
00:28:03.920 am pro-life
00:28:04.520 above all
00:28:05.020 else,
00:28:05.980 which means
00:28:09.260 I truly do
00:28:09.980 believe that
00:28:10.820 60 million
00:28:11.400 innocent human
00:28:11.960 beings have
00:28:12.580 been legally
00:28:13.060 killed over
00:28:13.520 the last
00:28:13.840 quarter century.
00:28:14.460 one might
00:28:15.720 suggest that
00:28:16.480 given this
00:28:17.040 horrifying
00:28:17.560 injustice,
00:28:18.880 I ought to
00:28:19.560 be tirelessly
00:28:20.460 rioting in
00:28:21.180 the streets.
00:28:22.240 While I do
00:28:22.880 dedicate a good
00:28:23.500 amount of
00:28:23.840 time to
00:28:24.140 activism,
00:28:24.760 certainly I
00:28:25.180 could be
00:28:25.420 doing much,
00:28:26.020 much more.
00:28:27.220 Simply put,
00:28:29.220 practicality plays
00:28:30.140 a big role in
00:28:30.820 the time I
00:28:31.360 spend marching
00:28:32.060 or writing.
00:28:33.420 How much
00:28:33.700 difference could
00:28:34.740 I, a single
00:28:35.500 person, truly
00:28:36.120 make?
00:28:36.760 Is it worth
00:28:37.300 sacrificing a
00:28:38.100 family, a
00:28:38.720 job?
00:28:39.680 I think that
00:28:40.320 to some
00:28:40.660 extent, climate
00:28:41.540 change activists
00:28:42.280 could use this
00:28:43.060 same excuse.
00:28:44.360 The problem,
00:28:44.880 according to
00:28:45.160 them, is so
00:28:45.720 massive that
00:28:46.720 their individual
00:28:47.360 contribution or
00:28:48.260 sacrifice is
00:28:48.960 negligible.
00:28:50.060 Is it worth the
00:28:50.820 massive inconvenience?
00:28:52.100 Will they really
00:28:52.660 make that much of
00:28:53.440 a difference?
00:28:54.220 Let me know what
00:28:54.600 you think.
00:28:54.940 Love the show.
00:28:55.440 Keep up the
00:28:55.720 great work.
00:28:57.440 I think that is
00:28:58.340 an excellent
00:28:58.800 point, and I
00:29:00.140 totally agree that
00:29:01.120 pro-lifers often
00:29:02.460 don't live like they
00:29:03.660 believe what they're
00:29:04.360 saying.
00:29:05.880 And that's a
00:29:06.700 problem.
00:29:07.560 They don't do
00:29:08.420 enough.
00:29:08.640 We don't do
00:29:09.320 enough.
00:29:09.600 I don't do
00:29:10.040 enough.
00:29:11.320 And you're
00:29:12.320 absolutely right
00:29:12.880 about that.
00:29:14.580 But I think
00:29:15.540 there is a
00:29:16.060 difference between
00:29:18.280 the case of the
00:29:19.400 pro-lifers who
00:29:20.360 are not involved
00:29:21.400 enough in
00:29:21.940 activism and
00:29:22.800 in fighting the
00:29:23.400 cause and
00:29:24.560 this.
00:29:25.780 Okay?
00:29:26.700 Environmentalists,
00:29:27.280 at least the
00:29:27.700 ones like Ocasio
00:29:29.240 Cortez, the
00:29:29.940 extremist ones,
00:29:31.520 they believe that
00:29:34.640 things like cars
00:29:35.720 and planes are
00:29:37.420 directly causing
00:29:38.620 directly bringing
00:29:39.840 about the end of
00:29:41.800 the world.
00:29:42.500 Okay?
00:29:43.820 Cortez says that
00:29:44.880 the world is going
00:29:45.540 to end in 12
00:29:46.740 years.
00:29:47.680 So there's a
00:29:48.700 difference between
00:29:49.380 choosing not to
00:29:50.620 actively take steps
00:29:51.560 to address the
00:29:52.220 issue that you
00:29:52.760 claim to care
00:29:53.400 about, which
00:29:53.880 many pro-lifers
00:29:54.680 are guilty of,
00:29:55.860 and on the other
00:29:56.920 hand, continuing to
00:29:58.600 do a thing that
00:29:59.920 you claim is going
00:30:01.200 to destroy all
00:30:02.360 human life in a
00:30:03.300 very short amount
00:30:04.040 of time.
00:30:04.900 So I think that
00:30:05.740 there's a difference
00:30:06.480 between those two
00:30:07.440 things.
00:30:08.720 In other words,
00:30:09.820 I'm not blaming
00:30:10.860 environmentalists for
00:30:13.940 their lack of
00:30:14.900 activism.
00:30:15.660 That's not my
00:30:16.180 point.
00:30:17.180 I'm not saying
00:30:18.220 that environmentalists
00:30:19.120 should be out there
00:30:19.780 doing more
00:30:20.220 activism, marching
00:30:21.820 more, and all that
00:30:22.620 kind of stuff.
00:30:26.360 I'm not blaming
00:30:27.280 them for what
00:30:27.760 they're not doing.
00:30:29.820 I'm blaming them
00:30:30.940 for what they
00:30:31.640 continue to do,
00:30:32.880 which is to
00:30:34.360 directly contribute
00:30:35.280 to the destruction
00:30:36.200 of human
00:30:36.660 civilization, in
00:30:37.900 their minds
00:30:38.420 anyway.
00:30:40.600 So I just
00:30:41.400 think, you
00:30:42.520 know, as a
00:30:42.840 pro-lifer, you
00:30:43.460 might stop and
00:30:44.560 say to yourself,
00:30:45.140 I could be doing
00:30:45.940 more, I need to
00:30:46.580 be out there
00:30:47.100 more, and that's
00:30:48.280 true, we could
00:30:48.740 all be doing
00:30:49.200 more.
00:30:50.660 But if you are
00:30:51.680 an environmental
00:30:52.440 extremist, and
00:30:55.900 you really
00:30:58.020 believe that
00:31:00.380 because we
00:31:02.820 drive around in
00:31:03.940 cars and use
00:31:04.800 fossil fuels, the
00:31:06.000 world is going to
00:31:06.920 come to an end.
00:31:10.960 It's one thing to
00:31:12.100 not go out in the
00:31:13.000 streets screaming
00:31:13.720 about it, which I'm
00:31:14.700 kind of happy that
00:31:15.380 they don't do.
00:31:16.520 They do it
00:31:17.120 sometimes, but if
00:31:18.960 they want to cut
00:31:19.440 back on that, I'm
00:31:20.000 fine.
00:31:21.460 There's a difference
00:31:21.940 between that and
00:31:22.540 then, on the other
00:31:23.780 hand, actually
00:31:24.440 getting into a car
00:31:25.780 and driving around
00:31:27.520 in it, while
00:31:29.800 thinking that you
00:31:31.000 are directly
00:31:32.120 contributing to
00:31:34.880 the end of
00:31:35.540 human, maybe in a
00:31:36.500 very small way, but
00:31:37.280 you are directly
00:31:38.100 contributing to the
00:31:38.780 end of human
00:31:39.420 civilization.
00:31:40.180 I just, I can't
00:31:41.280 imagine doing that.
00:31:43.820 I think another
00:31:45.300 way of looking at
00:31:45.860 this is if you're
00:31:48.480 an environmental
00:31:49.060 activist who
00:31:51.080 believes this,
00:31:52.160 then you must
00:31:53.900 conclude that it
00:31:55.860 is objectively
00:31:57.060 morally wrong
00:31:58.280 to drive a
00:32:00.000 car.
00:32:02.220 How could it
00:32:02.980 not be?
00:32:04.780 If the world is
00:32:05.720 ending in 12
00:32:06.640 years because of
00:32:07.520 this kind of
00:32:07.960 thing, it must be
00:32:09.220 objectively wrong
00:32:10.200 to do it, and
00:32:11.600 yet you continue
00:32:12.540 to do it.
00:32:13.400 And so,
00:32:14.340 so yeah, I
00:32:17.220 think that there
00:32:18.100 is, their
00:32:19.280 hypocrisy, I
00:32:20.340 think, is
00:32:20.780 quite a bit
00:32:22.640 more extreme
00:32:24.920 and pervasive.
00:32:26.580 This is from
00:32:27.680 Fish.
00:32:28.920 He says,
00:32:29.500 Hi, Matt,
00:32:29.980 huge fan of the
00:32:30.500 show.
00:32:31.700 Thank you for
00:32:32.080 your comments on
00:32:32.720 Michael Jackson.
00:32:33.480 I agree that his
00:32:34.220 legacy should be
00:32:34.880 ruined because of
00:32:35.540 his atrocities.
00:32:36.720 However, when
00:32:37.320 someone on Twitter
00:32:38.040 pointed out that
00:32:38.840 one of your
00:32:39.280 favorite authors
00:32:39.900 had a history of
00:32:40.660 stalking and
00:32:41.260 harassment, you
00:32:42.500 said, if you
00:32:43.900 only like artists
00:32:45.020 without demons,
00:32:46.120 you are really
00:32:46.720 limiting yourself.
00:32:48.000 How do you
00:32:48.520 reconcile those two
00:32:49.400 views?
00:32:49.820 Where do you
00:32:50.160 draw the line on
00:32:51.140 what demons are
00:32:51.880 acceptable and what
00:32:52.840 aren't?
00:32:53.200 Thank you.
00:32:55.180 Another great
00:32:55.880 point.
00:32:57.320 I think if I
00:32:58.400 remember that
00:32:58.940 conversation on
00:32:59.620 Twitter from
00:33:00.180 months ago, I
00:33:00.820 think that was in
00:33:01.520 reference to, I
00:33:05.680 think that was in
00:33:06.080 reference to David
00:33:06.740 Foster Wallace, I
00:33:07.840 believe, correct me
00:33:08.560 if I'm wrong, which
00:33:09.740 is one of my
00:33:10.360 favorite writers.
00:33:11.980 And he had a lot
00:33:13.120 of demons.
00:33:13.640 I mean, the guy
00:33:14.100 killed himself.
00:33:14.860 So he certainly
00:33:15.680 had a lot of
00:33:16.200 demons.
00:33:16.520 There's no
00:33:16.780 question about
00:33:17.340 that.
00:33:18.200 And he was
00:33:19.060 accused of, I
00:33:20.400 believe, essentially
00:33:21.200 stalking and
00:33:22.640 harassing another
00:33:23.580 author who he
00:33:25.080 was infatuated
00:33:27.560 with.
00:33:28.300 And I think he
00:33:28.920 had a relationship
00:33:29.480 with her on and
00:33:31.100 off again.
00:33:31.640 I'm pretty sure.
00:33:33.740 Anyway, I guess
00:33:34.800 the way that I
00:33:35.380 reconcile this is
00:33:37.700 by taking into
00:33:38.440 account two
00:33:39.140 factors.
00:33:40.600 One is the
00:33:41.800 severity of the
00:33:42.680 claim against the
00:33:44.380 person, the
00:33:44.920 seriousness of the
00:33:45.940 demon that we're
00:33:46.480 talking about, and
00:33:47.980 two, the value of
00:33:49.380 their art.
00:33:49.840 And then also
00:33:51.140 three, I guess I'll
00:33:51.820 take a third thing
00:33:52.340 into consideration,
00:33:53.960 and that would be
00:33:54.620 time.
00:33:55.820 Like, how long ago
00:33:56.840 did this person
00:33:57.580 live?
00:33:57.920 I do think that
00:33:58.720 matters.
00:33:59.140 Now, Wallace and
00:33:59.840 Michael Jackson, they
00:34:00.640 both lived and died
00:34:01.440 around the same
00:34:02.000 time.
00:34:02.520 So that isn't a
00:34:03.440 factor in this
00:34:04.060 discussion, in this
00:34:04.820 comparison.
00:34:05.720 But I do think that
00:34:06.860 the historical
00:34:07.500 proximity of the
00:34:10.440 person's life
00:34:11.860 matters to some
00:34:13.000 extent.
00:34:13.380 because if they
00:34:15.620 did a horrible
00:34:16.180 thing and their
00:34:18.560 victims are still
00:34:19.920 around and still
00:34:22.320 affected by it, then
00:34:24.680 I do think you
00:34:25.500 weigh that as
00:34:26.200 opposed to
00:34:26.980 someone, let's
00:34:28.180 say some
00:34:28.560 Renaissance artist
00:34:29.440 who lived and
00:34:31.800 died 400 years
00:34:32.840 ago.
00:34:34.500 And so, anyway,
00:34:35.240 but let's focus
00:34:35.820 on points one and
00:34:36.500 two.
00:34:37.880 I guess as far
00:34:39.280 as one goes, I
00:34:40.980 just think that
00:34:41.800 serial child
00:34:42.780 molestation is in
00:34:44.560 a whole different
00:34:45.520 league than
00:34:47.560 what, from what
00:34:48.620 someone like
00:34:49.400 Wallace was
00:34:50.020 accused of
00:34:50.540 doing.
00:34:52.000 I mean, there
00:34:52.820 are demons and
00:34:55.120 then there's being
00:34:55.660 a pedophile.
00:34:56.800 And I just think
00:34:58.200 that the two
00:34:59.080 things aren't even
00:34:59.780 close.
00:35:00.860 If Wallace was
00:35:01.960 guilty of stalking
00:35:02.960 and harassing a
00:35:03.960 woman or even
00:35:05.260 being abusive at
00:35:06.120 various points of
00:35:06.640 his life, that
00:35:07.660 matters.
00:35:08.180 I mean, it's
00:35:08.480 bad, but it
00:35:10.160 just doesn't come
00:35:10.880 anywhere close to
00:35:11.940 seeking,
00:35:12.380 grooming, and
00:35:13.400 then raping
00:35:14.220 seven-year-old
00:35:14.940 boys.
00:35:15.580 It's just, it's
00:35:16.380 not in the
00:35:17.180 same league.
00:35:18.860 It's just, it's
00:35:19.700 that you can't
00:35:21.340 even compare
00:35:22.060 them.
00:35:23.040 You can't even
00:35:24.080 put them on the
00:35:24.700 same Venn diagram.
00:35:26.040 And if you did,
00:35:26.960 there's not going
00:35:27.420 to really be
00:35:28.080 hardly anything in
00:35:28.900 that middle
00:35:29.320 bubble, right?
00:35:32.560 So, yes, I
00:35:33.740 think we have to
00:35:34.360 allow for the
00:35:35.080 fact that artists
00:35:36.020 have demons.
00:35:37.160 Everybody does.
00:35:37.940 Everyone is
00:35:38.440 flawed.
00:35:39.340 And artists,
00:35:40.120 especially per the
00:35:41.020 stereotype, tend to
00:35:41.920 be kind of
00:35:42.440 messed up.
00:35:43.380 We know that.
00:35:45.000 But child rape,
00:35:46.180 again, is
00:35:46.640 something, something
00:35:49.180 entirely different.
00:35:51.620 That's worse than
00:35:52.540 murder in my mind.
00:35:54.360 It is literally the
00:35:55.740 worst thing a person
00:35:56.680 can do.
00:35:57.520 The worst.
00:35:59.240 So where's the
00:36:00.080 line?
00:36:00.460 I don't know
00:36:01.000 exactly, but I
00:36:02.460 think the line is
00:36:03.480 somewhere before you
00:36:04.980 get to the worst
00:36:05.780 possible thing.
00:36:06.660 So Michael Jackson
00:36:07.460 did the worst
00:36:08.880 possible thing.
00:36:10.160 He was the worst
00:36:11.100 kind of person
00:36:12.300 that can exist.
00:36:17.920 And, yeah, there's
00:36:19.940 at some point you
00:36:21.000 cross a line, and
00:36:22.300 wherever that line
00:36:23.380 is, I don't know
00:36:23.920 exactly, but I am
00:36:24.820 positive that Michael
00:36:26.480 Jackson is on the
00:36:27.440 wrong side of it.
00:36:28.840 And then factor two,
00:36:30.320 I guess we don't even
00:36:30.960 need to discuss, but it
00:36:32.340 does matter.
00:36:33.160 I think Wallace was
00:36:34.640 not just a genius, but
00:36:36.440 someone who had a
00:36:37.120 profound insight into
00:36:38.200 the human condition.
00:36:39.280 He wrote things that
00:36:40.000 were often hilarious,
00:36:41.120 startling, poignant,
00:36:42.080 sometimes beautiful.
00:36:43.580 And so you do weigh
00:36:45.240 that.
00:36:46.940 You have to think, do
00:36:48.260 we want to throw this
00:36:49.240 away?
00:36:50.480 Can we afford to
00:36:51.820 throw this away?
00:36:52.860 Or is it too
00:36:53.680 valuable?
00:36:55.300 So whatever
00:36:56.220 Michelangelo is
00:36:57.460 accused of doing,
00:36:58.860 well, we cannot
00:36:59.820 afford to get rid
00:37:01.640 of the Sistine
00:37:02.240 Chapel or the
00:37:03.320 Piedra.
00:37:04.880 As a species, we
00:37:06.160 just can't afford
00:37:06.880 it.
00:37:07.120 It's too
00:37:07.620 beautiful, too
00:37:08.340 powerful, too
00:37:09.600 valuable, that
00:37:11.300 art stands on
00:37:12.780 its own, has
00:37:14.280 taken on a life
00:37:15.120 of its own, and
00:37:17.040 we can't be
00:37:17.680 without it.
00:37:18.460 It would be a
00:37:19.620 tragedy for the
00:37:20.860 human race if the
00:37:22.960 Sistine Chapel were
00:37:23.820 to crumble.
00:37:26.380 And the fact that
00:37:27.220 he lived 500 years
00:37:28.100 ago I think also
00:37:28.740 makes a difference
00:37:29.380 in my opinion.
00:37:30.500 So we have to
00:37:31.060 ask, I guess, is
00:37:33.640 thriller or
00:37:36.160 Billie Jean or
00:37:39.680 Beat It, are
00:37:41.580 these things so
00:37:42.580 incredible, so
00:37:44.560 beautiful, so
00:37:46.440 powerful, so
00:37:47.700 absolutely staggering
00:37:49.540 in their genius that
00:37:50.980 even serial child
00:37:52.720 rape, even
00:37:54.460 serial child rape,
00:37:55.460 which occurred as
00:37:56.260 recently as this past
00:37:57.320 decade, couldn't
00:37:58.440 cause us to stop
00:37:59.380 enjoying it.
00:37:59.980 I would say
00:38:02.160 no.
00:38:05.780 That's my
00:38:06.320 opinion.
00:38:07.180 Finally, from
00:38:07.840 Travis, he says,
00:38:08.760 Hi, Matt, I
00:38:09.260 always enjoy hearing
00:38:09.940 your perspective on
00:38:10.660 all things related to
00:38:11.660 the Bible and
00:38:12.340 especially enjoyed your
00:38:13.180 commentary on the
00:38:14.440 young earth theory.
00:38:15.860 Well, that makes one
00:38:16.820 of you, Travis.
00:38:20.160 In searching for
00:38:21.040 related topics, I
00:38:22.140 stumbled upon Dr.
00:38:23.800 Frank Turek of
00:38:24.720 Cross-Examined.
00:38:26.180 He seems to have a
00:38:26.900 good approach for
00:38:27.740 defending the Christian
00:38:28.480 faith.
00:38:28.860 Just curious if you
00:38:29.640 have read his
00:38:30.140 book, I Don't
00:38:31.380 Have Enough Faith
00:38:32.040 to Be an Atheist,
00:38:33.280 and hope to get
00:38:33.960 your thoughts on
00:38:34.500 his arguments.
00:38:36.540 I am familiar with
00:38:37.720 Frank Turek.
00:38:38.500 I haven't read his
00:38:39.120 book, but I've seen
00:38:40.040 some of his lectures
00:38:41.700 and some of his
00:38:42.780 debates.
00:38:43.880 I think he's a
00:38:44.220 brilliant guy, great
00:38:45.040 debater, very
00:38:45.680 impressive in that
00:38:46.420 format.
00:38:48.280 Now, I will say,
00:38:49.360 though, that I have
00:38:50.160 grown to really
00:38:51.120 dislike that
00:38:53.340 particular argument,
00:38:54.760 which is in the
00:38:55.300 title of his book,
00:38:56.300 I Don't Have Enough
00:38:57.120 Faith to Be an
00:38:57.760 Atheist, right?
00:38:58.900 And I know that
00:38:59.500 this is a theme
00:39:00.160 that Turek hammers
00:39:01.940 on all the time.
00:39:02.540 A lot of Christian
00:39:03.200 apologists, especially
00:39:04.180 these days, it's kind
00:39:05.040 of a common thing,
00:39:06.840 especially in modern
00:39:07.820 times among Christian
00:39:08.760 apologists, where they
00:39:10.340 say this thing about,
00:39:11.540 no, no, no,
00:39:12.260 atheists are the ones
00:39:13.720 who have faith.
00:39:14.940 They have too much
00:39:15.860 faith.
00:39:16.400 It takes more faith to
00:39:17.580 be an atheist than it
00:39:18.400 does to be a Christian.
00:39:19.080 I guess in Christian
00:39:22.060 apologetics, this has
00:39:23.340 been determined to be
00:39:24.440 some kind of very
00:39:25.420 powerful argument, and
00:39:27.940 I disagree.
00:39:29.840 Now, there are some
00:39:32.500 arguments that
00:39:33.240 Christians and atheists
00:39:34.340 make which the other
00:39:36.260 side finds formidable
00:39:38.140 and serious.
00:39:38.920 So, as a Christian, I
00:39:41.420 think that the atheist
00:39:42.580 arguments, arguments
00:39:44.760 like the argument from
00:39:45.600 suffering, the argument
00:39:47.160 from divine hiddenness,
00:39:48.720 these are formidable and
00:39:50.600 serious arguments from
00:39:52.260 atheists that Christians
00:39:54.240 have to grapple with.
00:39:55.840 And on the other side, I
00:39:57.380 know that even guys like
00:39:58.360 Richard Dawkins have
00:39:59.320 admitted that the fine
00:40:00.360 tuning argument, the
00:40:02.680 arguments about these
00:40:03.640 universal constants, which
00:40:05.440 make life possible, and
00:40:07.700 which seem, it seems so
00:40:09.760 highly improbable that they
00:40:11.080 could have happened on
00:40:11.780 their own.
00:40:12.120 Now, even someone like
00:40:13.040 Richard Dawkins has said
00:40:14.060 that that is a serious
00:40:15.400 argument.
00:40:16.840 But then there are
00:40:18.200 arguments that both sides
00:40:19.640 make, which the other
00:40:21.320 sides just roll their eyes
00:40:22.960 at and treat with total
00:40:24.180 disregard and contempt
00:40:25.380 because they find it to
00:40:26.380 be lazy and ridiculous.
00:40:28.640 So, as a Christian, that's
00:40:29.860 how I treat the whole
00:40:30.940 bit about God as a
00:40:33.260 magical sky fairy, right?
00:40:35.120 Christians, as an
00:40:37.440 atheist, the moment you
00:40:38.460 say that, the moment you
00:40:39.400 make that argument, every
00:40:41.260 Christian tunes you out
00:40:42.460 because it's so ridiculous,
00:40:44.380 it's so silly, it's a
00:40:45.720 childish, off-base
00:40:47.280 characterization that we
00:40:49.040 cannot possibly take
00:40:50.220 seriously.
00:40:51.000 But on the other side, I
00:40:53.660 know that atheists feel
00:40:54.880 that way about the, it
00:40:56.560 takes more faith to be an
00:40:57.760 atheist argument.
00:41:00.260 That's just not an
00:41:01.560 argument that any
00:41:03.180 atheist anywhere takes
00:41:05.400 seriously.
00:41:06.020 I would challenge you to
00:41:07.560 find one single atheist
00:41:08.960 who will say that he is,
00:41:11.280 that he's stopped in his
00:41:12.240 track by that argument.
00:41:13.660 There's not going to be an
00:41:14.320 atheist who says, well,
00:41:15.100 wait a minute, it does
00:41:16.200 take more faith for me to
00:41:17.200 be an atheist.
00:41:17.720 No, what they do when they
00:41:21.420 hear that argument is they
00:41:22.220 just roll their eyes and
00:41:23.260 they say, okay, all right,
00:41:24.720 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
00:41:25.480 yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:27.280 That's because the whole
00:41:28.300 point of atheism is that
00:41:31.700 they're saying to us, okay,
00:41:34.700 you've made a claim about the
00:41:36.180 Christian God, about Jesus,
00:41:38.880 about scripture, and so on,
00:41:41.460 and we've listened to you and
00:41:43.900 we don't believe your claim.
00:41:45.900 We don't accept it.
00:41:47.060 We just don't believe it.
00:41:48.940 We don't think you've met
00:41:50.220 the burden of proof.
00:41:51.120 We are declining to believe
00:41:53.040 what you are saying.
00:41:56.960 Much in the same way that
00:41:58.600 we as Christians will listen
00:42:01.180 to a Muslim and say, okay,
00:42:02.840 I hear what you're saying
00:42:03.640 about Muhammad and the
00:42:04.980 Quran, but I don't believe.
00:42:06.660 I do not believe what you're
00:42:08.440 saying.
00:42:08.740 That is not what I believe.
00:42:10.460 I am declining to believe in
00:42:13.660 Muhammad the prophet and in
00:42:15.660 Allah, I'm declining to
00:42:17.140 believe that.
00:42:19.720 Now, obviously, I think that
00:42:21.660 atheists should believe what
00:42:25.600 we're saying.
00:42:26.060 I think that there are good
00:42:27.000 reasons to believe what we
00:42:28.140 believe, obviously, but
00:42:29.960 declining to believe a claim
00:42:32.000 does not require faith.
00:42:34.800 It requires the lack of faith.
00:42:36.600 It's the opposite of faith.
00:42:39.900 Declining to believe what
00:42:40.880 someone is saying, that means
00:42:42.200 that you don't have faith in
00:42:43.640 what they're saying.
00:42:44.820 Maybe you should have faith
00:42:45.960 in it, but you don't.
00:42:48.060 That's the point.
00:42:49.820 And if we have any chance of
00:42:50.960 communicating with atheists and
00:42:52.420 maybe even convincing them, we
00:42:53.920 need to show that we
00:42:55.560 understand their basic
00:42:57.240 position.
00:42:57.940 You can't engage with someone
00:42:59.740 if you don't, if you're
00:43:02.360 refusing to understand what
00:43:03.820 they're saying to you.
00:43:06.300 And it's the same for them.
00:43:07.680 So that's why it totally
00:43:09.900 shuts down the conversation the
00:43:11.480 moment that an atheist goes, oh,
00:43:13.080 you just believe in a magical
00:43:14.180 sky fairy, because then as
00:43:15.420 Christians, we say, you're not
00:43:16.660 listening to us.
00:43:17.680 You're just not listening.
00:43:18.520 That's not what we're saying.
00:43:19.760 We don't believe that.
00:43:21.500 And if you insist on painting
00:43:23.440 our views in that way, we can't
00:43:25.060 have a conversation.
00:43:25.740 It's not going to work.
00:43:29.500 And it's the same thing on the
00:43:30.700 other side where atheists are
00:43:31.580 saying, no, no, that's not what
00:43:32.880 we're saying.
00:43:33.240 We're not saying that we have
00:43:34.200 faith in some other proposition.
00:43:37.020 We're just declining to believe
00:43:38.820 your proposition.
00:43:41.840 And so when a Christian says,
00:43:43.140 yeah, but you must have a lot
00:43:44.060 of faith to do that, the
00:43:45.840 atheists, all they say is, okay,
00:43:47.500 you're not listening to me.
00:43:48.520 And so that's why atheists and
00:43:49.680 Christians, they end up walking
00:43:50.480 away from each other because the
00:43:51.840 one side is saying, sky fairy.
00:43:53.200 The other side is saying, you
00:43:54.180 have more faith than us.
00:43:55.160 And then both just walk away and
00:43:56.540 say, all right, you know, it's,
00:44:01.440 I just believe strongly we need to
00:44:03.400 listen to what the other side,
00:44:04.580 just listen to it, listen to the
00:44:06.000 argument they're making at least,
00:44:07.200 and then you can engage with it.
00:44:10.700 So no, atheists don't have faith.
00:44:12.460 Atheists have a lack of faith by
00:44:14.260 definition, right?
00:44:18.240 And here's my other problem.
00:44:19.940 Not only is the atheists have more
00:44:22.480 faith than us thing, kind of a
00:44:23.980 mischaracterization and a straw man,
00:44:26.440 but here's the biggest problem.
00:44:28.600 It also turns faith into a dirty
00:44:31.060 word.
00:44:32.520 It seems almost that we're ashamed
00:44:35.420 to have faith.
00:44:36.880 And so we're saying, we don't have
00:44:38.880 faith, you do.
00:44:40.420 We're not the ones with faith, you're
00:44:41.960 the ones with faith.
00:44:44.320 Why even get into that competition?
00:44:46.580 Why are we ashamed of it?
00:44:47.820 We should be saying, yes, we do it.
00:44:49.420 You don't have faith, we do.
00:44:50.840 We're proud of it.
00:44:51.600 We're proud to have faith.
00:44:54.000 We shouldn't be trying to prove to
00:44:55.480 them that they have more faith than
00:44:56.880 us, that that is, that faith is a
00:44:59.260 virtue, right?
00:44:59.860 Why would we even be doing that?
00:45:01.460 And faith, faith must be more than
00:45:08.080 an assumption, you know, a best
00:45:14.420 guess based on the evidence, you
00:45:17.700 know, it's more than that.
00:45:19.300 We believe that faith is basically
00:45:22.640 the testimony of the Holy Spirit
00:45:25.680 within us, right?
00:45:27.220 It is the internal testimony of the
00:45:29.240 Holy Spirit.
00:45:29.640 That's what faith is.
00:45:32.980 So when we believe in God, it's not
00:45:35.960 just about having weighed the
00:45:37.840 evidence, it is also about the
00:45:39.260 internal testimony, and that's what
00:45:41.840 faith is.
00:45:43.140 So when we say that atheists have
00:45:45.220 faith, what are we saying?
00:45:46.220 That their own internal testimony
00:45:47.860 from the Holy Spirit is that God
00:45:48.880 doesn't exist?
00:45:49.360 That doesn't make any sense.
00:45:52.060 So, yeah, I appreciate him, I
00:45:55.000 appreciate a lot of Christian
00:45:56.020 apologists.
00:45:56.580 I just think that I read a lot of
00:45:59.460 this stuff, and I watch a lot of,
00:46:02.480 you know, lectures and things from
00:46:04.360 Christian apologists.
00:46:06.000 I watch a lot of debates, you know,
00:46:07.440 I'm basically obsessed with all this
00:46:08.840 stuff.
00:46:10.140 And there are certain arguments that
00:46:11.780 I've just come to, maybe loathe is
00:46:15.060 too strong a term, but I've come to
00:46:16.740 really dislike, because I find them to
00:46:19.420 be so incredibly ineffective.
00:46:21.520 Um, and, uh, and that's, that's one
00:46:26.040 of them.
00:46:26.340 But thanks for the email.
00:46:27.460 Thanks, everybody, for watching.
00:46:28.380 We'll leave it there.
00:46:29.520 Godspeed.
00:46:29.920 Hey, everybody, it's Andrew Klavan,
00:46:38.120 host of The Andrew Klavan Show.
00:46:40.100 You know, the media is trying to
00:46:41.660 cover up for Democrat
00:46:42.700 anti-Semitism by saying it's a
00:46:44.300 problem on both sides, the left and
00:46:46.000 the right.
00:46:46.540 Well, it is on the left and the
00:46:47.700 right, but the right-wing anti-Semites
00:46:49.740 are lunatics and outsiders.
00:46:51.780 The left-wing anti-Semites are in
00:46:53.740 Congress.
00:46:54.240 That's a big, big difference.
00:46:55.800 I'll talk about it on The Andrew
00:46:57.060 Klavan Show.