The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 213 - Football Player Is Acquitted Of Rape Charges But His Life Is Still Destroyed

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, a former star football player has been acquitted of rape charges finally, but the accusations have permanently damaged his reputation and his career.

00:00:11.160 So we're going to talk about that. Also, the Girl Scouts have gone all in on abortion advocacy.

00:00:17.200 And why is it that really successful rich people often did poorly in grade school?

00:00:23.780 There's a problem with our education system, a fundamental problem that leads to stuff like that.

00:00:28.060 And I want to talk about that as well today on the Matt Walsh Show.

00:00:36.040 OK, so I've been meaning to talk about this case for a few days and I haven't really had a chance to get into it yet.

00:00:42.560 So let's do that now. As the Daily Wire reported this week, a former star football player for Baylor University and a certainly a surefire early round pick,

00:00:52.900 probably a first round NFL draft pick, was acquitted in a high profile rape case a few days ago.

00:01:00.480 Now, so the accuser claimed that the player whose name is Sean Oakman, we don't know the accuser's name.

00:01:06.920 The media reports don't include it because she's an alleged rape victim. 1.00

00:01:12.400 She says she says she says that Oakman raped her in his apartment near campus, near Baylor University.

00:01:20.360 But it took the jury only about two hours for them to come to the conclusion that he's not guilty.

00:01:25.900 And that's a that's not a long deliberation, especially for a case like this.

00:01:31.380 But when you look at the specifics of the case, it's kind of easy to see why it didn't take them very long.

00:01:37.560 And it makes you wonder why this ever went to trial in the first place, because there is such a lack of evidence to support the accuser's claims.

00:01:45.540 Basically, the only evidence here, the prosecution had three avenues of evidence, if we can even call this evidence.

00:01:55.340 They had the word of the accuser, obviously.

00:01:58.660 They had the testimony of a few of her friends who say that now they didn't witness the assault, but they they talked to her after the fact.

00:02:07.400 And they found her disheveled and distraught and crying, they say.

00:02:11.280 And she told them what she claims happened.

00:02:15.540 And then and then they had injuries, especially genital injuries to the woman, which medical experts for the defense testified could have easily been sustained in a consensual encounter with a this was a man is 300 pounds, six foot seven.

00:02:34.300 So so that was that's what they had.

00:02:38.080 That's pretty much it.

00:02:39.580 The defense, though, had quite a bit more evidence.

00:02:43.980 Number one, the woman texted Oakman, Oakman with with whom she'd previously had a sexual relationship.

00:02:52.400 She texted him to come meet her at the bar on the night when the assault allegedly occurred.

00:02:57.540 Then she willingly went back to Oakman's apartment, even texting a friend on the way to indicate that she was OK.

00:03:05.300 Oakman's roommate, who was who was in the apartment when the alleged assault took took place, he testified that there he didn't hear any screams.

00:03:14.300 He didn't hear any indication of a struggle coming from the defendant's bedroom.

00:03:17.680 The woman said that she was too drunk to consent, but then multiple witnesses came forward to say that they interacted with her that night.

00:03:26.560 She was seen perfectly lucid.

00:03:28.200 There was also evidence that the accuser.

00:03:34.300 Well, I don't want to get too graphic.

00:03:35.460 There was there was based on DNA evidence, the accuser alleged that certain sexual acts took place against her will, that she was she tried to leave.

00:03:49.380 She was physically prevented and then she was pinned down and certain things.

00:03:52.480 Well, they were able to do DNA tests and they could kind of reconstruct what sorts of sexual acts took place that night.

00:04:01.400 And that did not match with what the accuser said.

00:04:07.600 Also, a forensic digital analyst took the stand and said that somebody deleted text messages from the woman's phone.

00:04:17.440 The text messages where she asked Oakman to come to the bar, someone deleted those text messages.

00:04:22.480 Which is highly suspicious.

00:04:24.200 So Oakman had physical evidence, circumstantial evidence.

00:04:28.200 Physical evidence would be, you know, the DNA evidence.

00:04:31.040 Circumstantial evidence would be the fact that she asked him to come out.

00:04:35.380 Then she went back to his apartment.

00:04:37.080 They had a previous sexual relationship.

00:04:38.820 So we can we can assume that she. 0.99

00:04:43.740 She knew what was going on when she went back to the apartment and she she herself had certain intentions in mind.

00:04:48.880 And then he also had eyewitnesses.

00:04:50.220 I mean, he had someone that was in the apartment when this was supposedly happening who said that there was no indication of anything like what she's talking about.

00:04:57.440 So it's no wonder that the jury jury came to the conclusion that it did.

00:05:01.640 That's the only conclusion it possibly could come to.

00:05:03.960 There's just no reason to convict the guy unless you're just going to believe the woman's story, even instead of all of this other.

00:05:17.480 It wasn't not just a he said, she said.

00:05:19.840 It was a she said, he said, plus he has all this evidence.

00:05:24.360 So there's no way that the she said can outweigh all of that, or at least it shouldn't.

00:05:31.720 But, you know, the thing is, the story doesn't end there for Oakman because he's going to have to wear the accused rapist label around his neck for the rest of his life.

00:05:40.240 You don't just you don't just go through something like that and then go and live your life like it never happened for the rest of his life.

00:05:45.800 He's going to be the guy who was accused and went to trial for rape and he's never going to be able to escape that escape that and even if he's still able to salvage some kind of a football career, which which seems likely because given his talent and the fact that he could now be I'm sure some team will take a chance on him and financially it's going to be low risk for them because they're not going to have to pay him very much, which just shows that he also lost quite a bit of money.

00:06:12.620 If he had gone in the first round, well, there's gonna be a lot of money and a lot of professional prestige and and job security that comes with that, that now he's not ever going to be able to recoup.

00:06:25.280 That's just gone. Right now, of course, it's still possible.

00:06:30.780 It's still possible that Oakman did what he was accused of doing.

00:06:34.360 We don't know court cases are not designed to prove anyone innocent, but just to decide whether the prosecution has succeeded in proving them guilty.

00:06:44.460 So all the jury is saying is the jury isn't saying this guy's innocent.

00:06:48.500 The jury is saying you the prosecution did not do your job.

00:06:51.680 You did not succeed in proving him guilty.

00:06:54.620 So who knows?

00:06:58.340 And that's sort of the point here, that if he is innocent, which is perfectly possible, plausible, maybe even likely that he is innocent.

00:07:07.220 Well, if he is, you know, it just shows even more the injustice that the rest of us have to say.

00:07:15.820 You know, it's possible that he did it.

00:07:17.780 I mean, I don't know.

00:07:18.880 It was certainly the right decision to not find him guilty, but who knows what actually happened.

00:07:33.260 And there are a few, you know, there are a few factors that do weigh in the accuser's favor.

00:07:38.480 I think primarily the fact that she did not wait 30 years, you know, like Christine Ford to make this accusation.

00:07:47.340 She made it very soon after the fact, and she told her friends, you know, shortly after it happened.

00:07:51.760 They found her, and she was crying, and she was clearly distressed about something, and she told them what happened.

00:07:58.860 That is, you know, that fact alone is probably why the deliberations lasted two hours rather than two minutes, because you do have to weigh that.

00:08:08.100 You have to say, well, I mean, did she decide right then and there that she was going to make up this lie?

00:08:13.120 Was that all an act, or are her friends lying?

00:08:17.340 Well, I think, no, not necessarily. 0.77

00:08:19.220 There is a way to explain all of that without necessarily painting this woman as just an abject liar, and I'll talk about that in a minute.

00:08:25.320 It's just, we have to emphasize that given the physical evidence, the eyewitnesses, the fact that she sought out Oakman and chose to go back to his apartment, indicating it would seem, at least at first, that she had the intention of having sexual relationships with him.

00:08:39.340 It just, it seems just as likely, if not more likely, that the encounter was entirely consensual, because a woman doesn't generally go back to a man's apartment after having a few drinks late at night if she does not have that intention.

00:08:56.960 Now, a friend of hers did testify that she only went back to his apartment because she wanted to see his new puppy.

00:09:02.500 But that actually, you know, a claim like that really just casts even more suspicion on the accuser because there's just no way.

00:09:11.640 I mean, it seems, it's highly unlikely that a woman, you know, a college-age woman in modern society would think that after you have some drinks with a guy that you've already been sexually active with,

00:09:26.740 and you go back to his apartment after the bar at night, it just seems highly unlikely that, you know, that either person did not have in mind that we're probably going to have sex tonight.

00:09:45.720 It just seems highly unlikely.

00:09:48.240 So, what lesson can we learn from this?

00:09:52.340 Well, I think the same thing we've learned countless times already, which is we can't believe all women, as the hashtag urges us to do. 1.00

00:09:58.780 We have to draw our conclusions based on evidence, not based on gender.

00:10:02.680 Now, the proponents of the believe all women method, they would have us give the benefit of the doubt to the accuser.

00:10:08.860 And if the fact, what they basically say is, if the facts could vindicate her claims, if there is some way to theoretically make it all gel with her version of events, then that's what we should do.

00:10:22.960 Believe all women wants us, at a minimum, to interpret the facts in whatever light is most favorable to the woman. 1.00

00:10:29.980 But that is precisely the wrong approach.

00:10:32.000 We should interpret the facts in the most reasonable, plausible way.

00:10:36.140 And if the facts could go one way or another, and there's no way to draw any conclusion with any degree of rational certainty, then we have to be satisfied with drawing no conclusion and saying, you know, we don't know what happened.

00:10:51.160 But we can't, we can't assume that the guy's a rapist.

00:10:54.740 So we just, we don't know.

00:10:56.120 And we, it's, we got to just leave it there.

00:10:59.060 Um, that's the problem is that this believe all women, that slogan is really designed for cases like Oakman's. 0.87

00:11:07.760 Because after all, you don't need to get into believe all women if the accused, uh, if, if the accused rapist is clearly guilty, if there's a lot of evidence, if he's clearly guilty, then we don't need to get into believe all women.

00:11:21.100 It's just clearly, there's no need for slogans.

00:11:24.940 Um, the slogan only comes into play.

00:11:27.560 It would seem in precisely a situation like this where, yeah, maybe the guy's guilty.

00:11:35.260 There's a very good chance he's not.

00:11:37.820 And that's where the me too proponents swoop in.

00:11:41.020 And they insist that in the absence of certainty, we assume guilt, which is a horrible and completely unethical and dangerous way of going about things.

00:11:50.140 One other point here, the insistence by feminists in expanding, um, on expanding the definition of rape, expanding it to the point of absurdity. 0.98

00:12:04.920 I think that makes it more difficult to get to the truth in any situation, especially a situation like this.

00:12:11.400 Uh, the way that we talk about consent and the way that we've made rape into this very broad category, um,

00:12:20.140 it only makes everything convoluted and more confused.

00:12:24.200 So let's imagine a hypothetical here.

00:12:27.780 Um, nobody, but Oakman and his accuser know what really happened that night.

00:12:33.100 No one else is ever going to know, but let's imagine a perfectly plausible hypothetical. 0.76

00:12:38.360 Let's imagine something that falls sort of in between Oakman being a rapist on one hand and his accuser being a liar on the other hand.

00:12:44.840 Now, feminists don't allow for gray areas in these situations, but I think that's where the truth often, often falls with this sort of thing. 1.00

00:12:54.040 So imagine that Oakman and the woman go back to his apartment, both intending on sexual relations.

00:13:01.040 Um, then let's say the woman at some point realizes that she isn't into it, doesn't really want to do it.

00:13:09.040 Um, let's say that Oakman then tries to convince her, uh, pressures her a little bit, not physically, but just not with threats or anything like that, but just tries to convince her to do what he wants to do.

00:13:21.900 Um, and then let's say that she agrees of her own free will.

00:13:26.800 Um, she's not prevented from leaving.

00:13:28.580 She could leave, but she, she agrees after some convincing and she goes through with the act, uh, even though she didn't, she didn't really want to.

00:13:36.700 She wasn't that into it now.

00:13:40.840 The left tells us that that would be rape.

00:13:44.120 If there is no continuous and enthusiastic, and they put that in the depth, it has to be enthusiastic, um, continuous, enthusiastic, affirmative consent all the way through in the absence of that, it's rape.

00:13:57.240 They say, but that's absurd.

00:13:59.440 Of course, it's not, it's not rape. 0.80

00:14:01.720 That wouldn't be rape.

00:14:02.980 It wouldn't be good either, but the left has created a dynamic.

00:14:07.820 This is, this is the dynamic they've created.

00:14:09.460 They say all sex falls into two categories.

00:14:12.740 There's only two categories of sex. 0.74

00:14:13.920 There's, there's good, wonderful sex. 0.99

00:14:16.600 And then there's rape. 0.99

00:14:18.200 Um, nothing in between. 0.98

00:14:20.780 If it's not good and wonderful, it's rape. 0.95

00:14:23.820 That's what they say.

00:14:25.340 Those are the only categories.

00:14:27.320 But in reality, there's a lot of room in between.

00:14:29.400 Uh, it is possible to have bad, immoral sexual relations, the kind that may leave a person feeling used, dirty, guilty, whatever, but which was entirely consensual and thus not rape.

00:14:43.920 Um, those kinds of sexual relations happen all the time, especially on college campuses.

00:14:48.840 And I think that's why we hear about one in four women are sexually assaulted.

00:14:52.200 Well, uh, some of those women counted in that statistic really were sexually assaulted, but I think a lot of them, what actually happened is they consensually had sex that they didn't really want to have.

00:15:03.180 But they did it anyway.

00:15:04.140 Um, by expanding the definition of rape to include cases where there was actually consent by both parties, the left has diminished the severity of rape and created a whole mess of false rape claims.

00:15:18.020 That the person making the false rape claim might not even know is false.

00:15:23.760 So back to my hypothetical, it's perfectly possible, even plausible, that the woman went through with the act completely consensually, but she wasn't that into it.

00:15:33.020 And she later realizes, based on what we're told these days, uh, she later realizes that, oh, I was raped.

00:15:39.260 And she comes to believe that she really was raped.

00:15:41.900 And then she maybe embellishes the story a little bit when she talks to the cops and she talks and she tells people about it.

00:15:47.420 She embellishes a little bit just because she knows that if she tells the story exactly as it happened, it won't sound like rape.

00:15:53.200 And maybe that's why she goes back and she deletes the text message and she does all this stuff.

00:15:56.940 Um, she really believes that something did, that she was assaulted, but she knows that if the exact sequence of events, um, wouldn't support that claim.

00:16:07.280 So she changes a little, a little bit.

00:16:09.720 I, look, I don't know if that's actually what happened, but my point is that in our culture, we, we, we have now an environment that would create and encourage those kinds of situations.

00:16:21.160 Situations where no rape occurs, but the person making the false rape claim may not realize it's false because they've been given a false definition of rape.

00:16:30.880 They have been told that you may be raped even if you consent to the act, which is totally absurd.

00:16:39.220 The, the, the definition of rape is to have sex with someone, uh, uh, or to have any kind of sexual contact with a person, uh, against their will. 0.89

00:16:48.040 That's what rape is. 1.00

00:16:49.960 Anything that is not that is not rape, but it could still be bad.

00:16:54.840 It could still be immoral.

00:16:55.940 It could still be unadvisable.

00:16:58.200 It could still be a lot of bad things.

00:17:02.240 So, you know, good, moral, wonderful, uh, affirming, loving sex is, is one category.

00:17:12.700 And I would say that, that that's a category that belongs entirely in the bonds of marriage.

00:17:17.600 Um, and then, so you have that, and then you've got rape all the way over here, but then you've got a lot. 0.99

00:17:23.960 I mean, the, the left, they're the ones who usually are all about spectrums and gray areas.

00:17:27.500 Well, well, here is a place where you've got something like that, um, where you've got a lot of stuff in between here, where it's not, it's not rape.

00:17:33.640 It's not good and wonderful either.

00:17:35.300 And if you fall into that middle ground, you, you, you're going to, you may leave the act, whether you're a woman or a man feeling used, feeling, um, uh, because you were used, right?

00:17:47.860 There's, there's a lot, that's, that's the problem with the, these one night stands and the hookup culture and everything is that people, men and women, they use each other physically.

00:17:59.060 Um, they're not raping each other because they both agree to it, but, um, they use each other.

00:18:07.300 And then, uh, and then later on, they, they, they are left feeling used and they may now interpret, they may say, oh, I was used. 0.87

00:18:17.200 So I was raped. 0.85

00:18:18.880 Not necessarily. 0.83

00:18:20.720 Um, if you consented to it, it's not rape, but it was still not good.

00:18:25.620 Still something we should discourage.

00:18:29.060 All right.

00:18:30.060 Uh, let's move on.

00:18:33.420 An article on the daily wire right now, Girl Scouts gives highest award to, uh, to a girl who organized a pro-abortion campaign.

00:18:42.000 So if you didn't, if you didn't already realize this about the Girl Scouts, here's a little bit from this article.

00:18:46.160 Though the organization's ties to abortion conglomerate Planned Parenthood have been known for years, the Girl Scouts of America have yet to be so forthright about their closeted support for abortion until now.

00:18:55.360 According to Life News, the group, mygirlscoutcouncil.com has been monitoring the organization for years over its pro-abortion stance.

00:19:03.700 Uh, and it discovered last Friday that the Girl Scouts of Southern Arizona honored a girl for her volunteer work on reproductive health justice.

00:19:11.880 Uh, Meghna Gopalan, recently profiled in a Tucson publication, received the Gold Award, the Girl Scouts' highest honor for her work, reports Life News.

00:19:22.240 Her project involved working with the pro-abortion women's march and its affiliate in Tucson.

00:19:26.340 She said her goal was to educate people and, uh, de-stigmatize access to women's health care, euphemisms for abortion. 0.95

00:19:35.600 Uh, she said, I'm planning on hosting an event to educate people about, about and de-stigmatize access to women's health care.

00:19:42.020 I've been working with the El Rio Reproductive Health Access Project, and they've offered ideas on reproductive health justice, which would broaden the scope of the project a little bit, blah, blah, blah.

00:19:51.680 Um, so Girl Scouts working now with reproductive health justice, and this, of course, is just another example of the ideological piracy that leftists engage in, where they invade institutions, they commandeer them, and they turn them into agents of their own agenda. 0.98

00:20:12.120 And they've done that to the Boy Scouts, and, uh, and the Girl Scouts as well, where the Girl Scout, here's what's happened.

00:20:22.800 The Boy Scouts have become the Girl Scouts, and the Girl Scouts have become a wing of Planned Parenthood.

00:20:28.900 That, that's what's happened, um, thanks to the left.

00:20:32.440 All right, I want to talk about one other thing before we get to emails, um, something that has nothing to do with politics or anything like that.

00:20:39.600 I found this article linked on Drudge this morning on a website called theladders.com, and it has an interesting little tidbit that I thought I'd mention.

00:20:49.400 Um, an author named Tom Corley, who wrote a book called Rich Habits, The Daily Success Habits of Rich Individuals, and he does a, in this book, he does a survey, um, of a bunch of, uh, different young, um, millionaires.

00:21:05.260 And there was this fact that I thought was relevant.

00:21:10.900 Uh, the fact is, according to the survey that he did, the majority of the young and successful people that he spoke to were C students in school.

00:21:19.720 Um, most of them were not very successful in school academically.

00:21:23.160 They were C students, which puts you, which means you're, you're not far above failing, right, at that point.

00:21:27.800 Um, that's an interesting fact, doesn't surprise me, and you hear this a lot about really successful people where they didn't do well in school.

00:21:37.140 Um, and a lot of them didn't even go to college.

00:21:42.020 Not academic success stories, in other words, uh, but then they go on and they become success stories out in the world.

00:21:50.300 I mean, we all, we all know the story about Albert Einstein, who was, it was not a very good student.

00:21:54.320 I think those stories are probably exaggerated a little bit, but, uh, but still, it's, it's all part of this.

00:21:59.060 Now, it's worth asking, well, why is that?

00:22:03.740 How could it be that you could have people who are brilliant and very talented and hardworking and ambitious and ambitious and all that,

00:22:14.640 which is what you would need to be to succeed in the world, um, but how could you have someone like that who, who, who, who can't handle, you know, grade school?

00:22:27.400 Um, I think it's because the education system emphasizes, demands, certain skills, certain qualities that have nothing to do with intelligence,

00:22:38.840 nothing to do with ingenuity, um, nothing to do with creativity, or any of the things that the education system should be fostering.

00:22:48.940 Here are, these are really the two qualities that you need to have in order to do well in school.

00:22:53.920 These are the only two.

00:22:55.560 You have to be good at memorizing and regurgitating information,

00:22:59.440 and you have to be good at sitting still for long stretches while performing rote busy work.

00:23:06.240 Um, those are the two skills you need to have.

00:23:08.840 If you have those qualities, you will be an A-plus student, pretty much guaranteed.

00:23:13.240 You could have an IQ of 85.

00:23:15.720 You could be a, a, a, in fact, I went to school with, uh, plenty of kids who, I don't know what their IQ was,

00:23:22.700 but they were clearly not very smart. 0.86

00:23:25.440 Um, some of them, frankly, appeared to be huge dummies, but just in talking to them, right, 1.00

00:23:32.300 you just have a conversation, you realize, wow, you are kind of stupid, right? 1.00

00:23:36.220 You don't say that to their face. 1.00

00:23:37.440 Well, maybe sometimes you do, you shouldn't, but they would get A, they get straight A's.

00:23:43.140 And then, and then, of course, for, for a lot of kids, they think, well, wait, I'm definitely smarter than that person.

00:23:48.080 Why am I getting C's over here?

00:23:49.360 Um, because, well, it's just because of this.

00:23:54.440 If you have the, if you can sit still and not think about anything else and just think about your busy work and you can memorize and then regurgitate what you're told,

00:24:02.840 you'll, you'll, you'll do great.

00:24:06.480 And those are good abilities to have, by the way.

00:24:08.800 I'm not knocking them, but they aren't abilities that will necessarily translate to success and fulfillment outside of school.

00:24:15.580 So there's a huge disparity where success in education depends entirely on qualities that of themselves won't do much for you outside of education.

00:24:24.600 And that's a big problem.

00:24:26.040 See, that's something we really need to focus on.

00:24:27.680 Now, if you can sit still, memorize, and you happen to be a brilliant, logical thinker, or very gifted in math, or you happen to be very scientifically minded, or you're also artistic,

00:24:43.360 well, then that combination absolutely will lead to success outside of school.

00:24:48.700 That will, that will give you success in school and in life.

00:24:51.600 So best of both worlds.

00:24:52.600 When you find people who were straight A students all the way through, and then they go out there and they become extremely successful in whatever they're doing.

00:25:00.320 Well, that's someone, yeah, that's best of both worlds.

00:25:02.340 That's someone who could sit still, memorize, regurgitate, and also happened to be brilliant, and was a hard worker, ambitious, creative.

00:25:09.620 If you've got all that going for you, well, then you're just, you're going to basically coast through life.

00:25:14.000 And good for you in that case.

00:25:15.440 But what if, see, there are a lot of people, what if you, what if you have trouble sitting still, you aren't great at memorization, but you're also extremely creative?

00:25:28.900 Or what if you aren't great at sitting still and memorizing, but you're very gifted with building things, or fixing things?

00:25:34.780 Or what if you can't sit still, can't memorize and regurgitate, but you're a great writer?

00:25:38.840 And yes, there are a lot of writers who have trouble sitting still.

00:25:43.920 I'm one of them, although I wouldn't call myself a great writer.

00:25:47.040 Or let's say you have a great interest in history, and you have a keen eye for history.

00:25:51.740 Or what if you're a gifted artist, or you're a compelling public speaker, or you're a budding inventor, or you have a great business sense, or you're a natural salesman, and so on.

00:26:00.140 What if you have those qualities, but you can't really sit still, and you can't regurgitate and memorize?

00:26:04.160 Well, all of those kinds of people, those are very gifted.

00:26:08.760 They could all be extremely successful in life.

00:26:10.940 I mean, any of those people, if they wanted to, they could turn that into, you know, they could become billionaires with those qualities.

00:26:20.880 So there's nothing wrong with any of them, but all of them will struggle mightily in school, and many of them will probably end up on psychotropic drugs.

00:26:30.740 Because it will be decided that they have ADHD, and so on.

00:26:34.160 And that's the whole problem with our system, is that it's only built for one kind of person and no one else.

00:26:41.760 And it often caters to qualities that, in most cases, do not translate.

00:26:54.640 You know, as I said, if you have the ability to sit still, memorize, regurgitate, and you also happen to have other great qualities, well then, yeah, that'll translate.

00:27:05.660 But that ability just on its own, well, I mean, that'll be good to put you in a cubicle.

00:27:11.960 You know, you could take that and go sit in a cubicle or work at the DMV or something.

00:27:15.880 And nothing wrong with doing either of those things, I'm just saying.

00:27:20.900 That's, those qualities isolated, that's kind of where that leads.

00:27:24.980 And it's so, there's just, it's an entire paradigm shift that needs to happen with our education system.

00:27:33.200 We just, our education system is so deeply flawed down to its very roots.

00:27:37.320 It's, it is just, it's not doing what it's supposed to do.

00:27:42.940 And in the meantime, and that wouldn't be so bad in and of itself, but the problem is that you've got a lot of really gifted kids, very intelligent.

00:27:53.380 They've got a bright future ahead of them, but they go through 12 or 13 years of school and they're just beaten down by it.

00:27:59.580 Because that's the other thing, there's an emotional and psychological toll in, in being forced every day, especially as a kid, to be in an environment that isn't suited for you and where you're destined to fail constantly.

00:28:19.120 Believe me, I went through this myself, where, you know, you, you, you go through your whole formative, all your formative years, you're in this environment where it's just, it is, it is not made for you.

00:28:31.860 And so every day you're just failing and you're doing bad and you're, you know, it's just constantly every day.

00:28:38.160 And after a while, it creates a complex where kids begin to believe that, oh, I'm, there's something wrong with me. 0.99

00:28:43.940 I'm stupid. 0.81

00:28:44.560 And that can have, uh, you know, hopefully a kid will be able to cope with that and eventually get out of school and realize that, oh no, there's nothing wrong. 1.00

00:28:55.520 There was something wrong with the system, not something wrong with me.

00:28:58.180 There are a lot of things I can do well, and then they'll go and do those things.

00:29:00.720 But I think there are a lot of kids who are not able to cope and they end up on drugs, uh, whether legal or illegal.

00:29:07.580 Um, you know, they, they end up going off on a wrong path.

00:29:12.980 Uh, they commit suicide, you know, worst case scenario.

00:29:16.380 There's this part of where I think the suicide epidemic among our kids happens.

00:29:21.120 It's not normal to have all these kids committing suicide.

00:29:23.340 It's not a normal thing.

00:29:24.740 And I think part of that is also this, these, these kids are worn down by the system and they're made to feel totally worthless.

00:29:31.240 And, uh, just crazy almost like there's something completely wrong with them when they're, when there isn't anything wrong with them.

00:29:44.700 All right.

00:29:45.440 Uh, let me get to some emails before we wrap up here.

00:29:48.740 MattWallShow at gmail.com.

00:29:50.200 MattWallShow at gmail.com.

00:29:51.620 Let's start with this, uh, from Dustin. 1.00

00:29:53.960 Can I just say that of all the idiots in all the idiot villages and all the idiot worlds, you stand alone, my friend. 1.00

00:29:59.920 Who do you think you are? 1.00

00:30:00.980 What gives you the right?

00:30:02.380 I hate so much about the way you choose to be.

00:30:05.760 Dustin, I deeply appreciate, uh, that feedback and I will take it into consideration.

00:30:11.240 From Nick, he says, Hey Matt, I just wanted to share an interesting observation that occurred to me recently about the left's abortion arguments.

00:30:16.860 They seem to break down into two camps.

00:30:18.840 One set of arguments seek to define life itself, viability, consciousness, ability to feel pain, et cetera.

00:30:24.280 The other seeks to justify abortion, bodily autonomy, overpopulation, congenital defects, et cetera.

00:30:31.600 But it seems like if you're going to argue for the right to abortion, that it's justified, then that presupposes that the fetus is a life.

00:30:38.400 If you believe the fetus is just a clump of cells, then why would you need to make a case for the right to get rid of it?

00:30:44.120 It's like arguing for the right to scrape gum off the bottom of your shoe.

00:30:47.320 Love the show.

00:30:47.980 Thanks for all you do.

00:30:48.520 I think that you make a very insightful point, Nick, and I think you're exactly right.

00:30:53.080 And in fact, uh, so you, you do have those two, um, veins of argument where the argument over life and then the argument over just abortion and, and, and bodily autonomy and everything.

00:31:05.360 Now, what the pro-abortion advocates have done is they are increasingly abandoning that first category, which that used to be what, that used to be the centerpiece of the abortion.

00:31:19.460 Debate was about definition of life and all of that personhood.

00:31:24.420 Um, but I think abortion advocates are getting away from that for two reasons.

00:31:30.440 Number one, that argument focuses for them uncomfortably.

00:31:35.720 So it focuses on the, the life on the child and they don't want to, they don't want to bring attention to that.

00:31:42.820 And also they, they're losing that argument.

00:31:45.000 They know that they've, they've already, they've lost it.

00:31:46.620 They've lost that argument.

00:31:48.000 Um, you know, 50 years ago, it was different, but, but now we just, we know too much about what is really going on inside the womb.

00:31:56.080 Uh, you can look at the, at the sonograms.

00:31:59.040 Uh, we, we know too much about feudal development.

00:32:03.260 And so, uh, it's just, they, it's a difficult argument for them to make now.

00:32:09.260 So now they're going over here and they're saying, okay, well, forget about that.

00:32:12.600 It doesn't matter what the fetus is. 0.95

00:32:17.320 Uh, all that matters is I have a right to my autonomy and Hey, you know, basically their argument now is.

00:32:23.740 Uh, I should be able to get an abortion because I want to get an abortion and I should be able to do what I want to do.

00:32:31.460 That's their argument.

00:32:32.540 It's a bad argument. 1.00

00:32:33.400 It's a stupid argument. 1.00

00:32:34.960 Uh, it's flawed in about a million different ways, but, um, at least it's not as easily. 1.00

00:32:42.160 That's more of a philosophical argument.

00:32:45.060 It's not a scientific one.

00:32:46.880 So their scientific argument of, oh, this isn't a human.

00:32:49.340 That isn't a person.

00:32:50.080 Well, we can just disprove that easily.

00:32:52.440 Just show them a sonogram.

00:32:54.040 Boom, you're done.

00:32:55.400 Uh, or we get into genetics and DNA, you know, their own unique DNA.

00:32:59.440 So, you know, it's over, but an argument of, I can, I should be able to do what I want.

00:33:04.480 Well, that's, that's the argument of a three-year-old, but it's, it is more of a philosophical argument.

00:33:08.300 There's not one thing you can present to them to prove that they're wrong.

00:33:11.540 So I think you're right.

00:33:14.460 Let's see.

00:33:14.960 This is from Scott.

00:33:15.640 Matt, I love your show.

00:33:16.600 I'm a big fan of your opinions for the most part.

00:33:18.420 Um, for the most part, good qualifier.

00:33:20.100 The first time I'm a fan of my opinions for the most part as well.

00:33:23.700 The first time I heard you was the episode talking about how loving animals like humans is immoral.

00:33:28.040 And I, I've thought the exact same thing.

00:33:30.180 Most of my adult life from then on, I've made it a point to catch your podcast during the day.

00:33:33.920 I'm watching the HBO documentary about Michael Jackson.

00:33:36.140 I started doing some thinking about pedophilia.

00:33:38.100 We all know the left's goal is to take every immoral act according to God and normalize it.

00:33:43.420 Canada has a story recently about how a court ruled a 14 year old can consent to gender reassignment procedures.

00:33:48.740 By that logic, a child is equal to an adult and can make very permanent decisions about their life.

00:33:55.000 Do you think this is a step towards attempting to normalize pedophilia in our society?

00:33:58.740 If a child can decide what gender they are, why can't they decide who they love?

00:34:04.140 How can anyone else say what, what, what they feel is not love?

00:34:07.720 If a parent can't stop a child from taking steps towards trying to change their gender, 0.99

00:34:11.280 then how can they have the authority to tell their child they can't have a relationship with an adult?

00:34:15.680 Maybe I'm crazy, but I definitely don't think this is something far off.

00:34:19.020 And I won't be shocked to see pedophilia rallies and pride parades.

00:34:21.800 Eventually people call me crazy, but like you said, just give it a new name.

00:34:25.100 And suddenly you have a community, uh, Scott, I think that you are exactly right.

00:34:29.580 I made that same point myself.

00:34:31.020 If we are saying that an eight year old child has the, uh, ability and the wherewithal and the maturity, um,

00:34:43.040 and the autonomy to decide their own gender, uh, then, I mean,

00:34:52.120 it seems like we've set the stage to say that, oh, okay, well maybe they actually have the ability

00:34:58.060 and maturity to make other decisions as well.

00:35:00.360 So yes, I think that there is a link between those two issues.

00:35:03.080 And, uh, I think that that is where we're headed.

00:35:05.820 This is from Marissa says, hi, Matt, love the show.

00:35:08.120 Just wanted to comment on the Captain Marvel issue.

00:35:10.740 I don't plan on watching the movie.

00:35:12.080 In fact, call me sexist.

00:35:13.200 I'm a woman, by the way, but I don't really think the whole female act.

00:35:16.460 I don't really like the whole female action hero thing. 1.00

00:35:18.740 Personally, I do prefer men in those roles.

00:35:20.620 I think female action heroes can often come across pretty cheesy. 1.00

00:35:24.260 I guess I lose my woman card for that. 0.72

00:35:26.460 Well, I lose my woman card too, Marissa, because I agree with you. 1.00

00:35:29.900 Um, well, I mean, I know what you mean.

00:35:33.200 I'll put it that way.

00:35:34.400 I think, well, here's the problem with female action heroes. 1.00

00:35:38.040 And I know I'm going to get myself into trouble with this, but, uh, I think a lot of people

00:35:42.120 will agree with both of us, but they just, they feel like they can't say it.

00:35:45.460 Like most of us.

00:35:46.400 Yeah.

00:35:46.580 I mean, if you had a choice, if you, if, if you were given a choice, but between

00:35:50.420 watching a movie with a male action hero, female action hero, and you didn't know anything

00:35:54.780 else about the movies, uh, you probably choose the male action hero one, right?

00:36:00.100 Because usually those characters tend to be more compelling.

00:36:04.780 And there's a higher likelihood that the female action hero will be kind of corny and you'll 1.00

00:36:09.520 just kind of roll your eyes and all right.

00:36:12.580 Um, especially, and I've, I've heard people say, well, you know, it's, it's, uh, in fact,

00:36:18.440 I think it was Bill Burr comedian who, uh, he's, he had a line of paraphrasing, but he said

00:36:23.200 that his, his suspension of disbelief can't handle, you know, a cute blonde chick, uh, beating 0.99

00:36:28.680 up a bunch of Navy SEALs.

00:36:29.920 It's just like, it's a little bit too much.

00:36:31.560 Uh, actions movies already are fanciful, but when you add that into it, it's like, eh,

00:36:37.900 come on.

00:36:39.100 Um, that, that I don't think is exactly the problem because especially if you're talking

00:36:42.980 about a superhero, well, if, if the woman has superpowers, then she can do whatever she 1.00

00:36:46.380 wants.

00:36:47.180 But I think here's the issue.

00:36:48.980 Um, the iconic super, uh, the iconic action heroes, the ones that we remember, the really

00:36:55.560 compelling ones, they always have a kind of gritty and intimidating vibe to them.

00:36:59.280 Um, like there, there's always people, there are always people that you wouldn't want to

00:37:03.180 tick off, right?

00:37:04.600 Uh, think of John wick or John, John McClain, diehard, uh, Liam Neeson and taken or in anything

00:37:09.860 he's done, Daniel Craig, Jason Statham, or go back to Arnold Schwarzenegger, uh, Stallone,

00:37:16.040 any of those guys.

00:37:18.240 Um, they've got that kind of gritty, tough, intimidating, uh, you know, you wouldn't want

00:37:23.700 to take them off.

00:37:24.360 You certainly wouldn't want to kidnap one of their family members and hold them for ransom,

00:37:26.880 especially Liam Neeson.

00:37:28.200 And most of all, so, but someone like Brie Larson, you know, no offense there, but she 1.00

00:37:35.300 just doesn't have that intimidation factor.

00:37:36.940 Like nobody, if you heard that Brie Larson was coming after you, you're just not going

00:37:41.420 to be that worried about it.

00:37:42.680 Uh, the same way that you'd be worried if the rock was coming after you.

00:37:45.320 Right now.

00:37:46.640 So there's that intimidation factor that I think that grittiness and intimidation factor.

00:37:49.900 And you need that most of the time in an action hero.

00:37:52.140 It's harder for females to have that, but there are exceptions. 1.00

00:37:55.960 Uma Thurman in Kill Bill definitely had that.

00:37:58.640 You wouldn't want to take her off.

00:38:00.020 Uh, Sigourney Weaver had it.

00:38:02.240 There are other examples and there are exceptions on the other side too.

00:38:05.660 I mean, Tom Cruise is maybe the greatest action star of all time.

00:38:09.200 He's certainly not gritty or, or intimidating, but he makes up for that with just sheer exuberance

00:38:14.620 and physicality, doing his own crazy stunts and everything and nearly killing himself

00:38:18.280 on every film shoot he's ever been on.

00:38:20.700 Uh, so, you know, there are exceptions, but it's just, there's a certain vibe usually that

00:38:27.620 an action hero needs to bring to the table, which a woman isn't able to do quite as naturally, 1.00

00:38:34.320 uh, which is no knock on women. 1.00

00:38:36.220 There are vibes, there's a, there, there, there are vibes that women bring to the table that 1.00

00:38:40.060 went, that men, uh, wouldn't be able to quite as naturally.

00:38:43.480 And in fact, you take a movie like Kill Bill or, or, or take it, Alien, Sigourney Weaver.

00:38:49.960 Um, I think if you had put a man in that role, you would have lost something.

00:38:55.400 So in that case, she had the kind of grittiness, intimidation thing going on. 0.85

00:38:59.460 Uh, and, but there was also some, but her, her, her femininity brought to the role as well, 0.87

00:39:06.500 really elevated it and helped to make it an iconic role and movie.

00:39:10.120 Um, but you know, it's, like I said, it's just, it, I think it's harder for

00:39:15.400 a, uh, a female, uh, actor to bring that, especially someone like Brie Larson. 1.00

00:39:24.800 But, you know, it's not, it's not an insult.

00:39:28.160 All I'm saying is Brie Larson is not Liam Neeson, which she should be flattered that I

00:39:32.360 would say that, uh, because she shouldn't want to be Liam Neeson.

00:39:34.640 All right. Um, let's see. This is from, uh, this is from M. Just the letter M is all I'm given.

00:39:43.180 Matt, you keep contradicting yourself. One minute you're talking about due process and

00:39:46.980 believing evidence. The next you're condemning Michael Jackson as a pedophilic monster. 0.97

00:39:51.720 I always respected your opinion, but your tirades against MJ have exposed so much hypocrisy. 0.97

00:39:56.420 I've lost a lot of respect for you. Okay. And that's fine. Uh, of course you completely missed

00:40:02.120 the point though. My whole point all week has been that there's overwhelming evidence,

00:40:07.840 a whole truckload of evidence against Jackson. That's why I condemn him as a pedophilic monster 0.98

00:40:13.360 because he was look, okay. I bet this is the last thing I'm going to say about this. All right. I'm 0.97

00:40:18.920 not going to, I'm done with this topic after this. I just want to make one other point because you

00:40:22.820 brought it up. I'm not going to rehash all the reasons why Michael Jackson is definitely guilty as

00:40:28.060 hell. I'm going to mention one other thing that I hadn't yet mentioned. Jackson, as we've established,

00:40:36.780 admitted to sleeping in bed with little boys many times, multiple times. He admitted it.

00:40:43.660 Now, even if I were to accept the argument that he may have done this originally in an innocent,

00:40:52.980 not creepy way, which I do not accept that argument. I think there's no way that a man

00:40:59.300 invites a boy into his bed, uh, for non-creepy reasons, even one time. But even if I were to

00:41:08.400 accept that argument, when Jackson was, uh, was accused in 1992 or 93 and he ended up paying off

00:41:14.520 his accusers. And back then this issue of sleeping in bed with little boys came up and, uh, he said,

00:41:21.740 oh, it's completely innocent. I, it's just a childlike love that we share. Now, even if you're

00:41:27.940 dumb enough to fall for that back in 1993, well, he kept doing it. Okay. It came up again, 12 years 0.99

00:41:36.860 later when he was on trial. And yet again, he was sleeping in bed with little boys. He kept doing it.

00:41:43.920 So at what point M, uh, at what point do you think, do you, do you think that like,

00:41:54.700 how many times does he need to sleep in bed with little boys? How many times does he need to be

00:41:58.400 accused and then keep on doing it before you will admit that, okay, maybe there's something going on

00:42:04.320 here? Because even if he was, uh, confused enough to think that there is nothing wrong

00:42:16.280 with sleeping in bed with little boys and weird enough to even want to do that in the first place.

00:42:23.160 Well, okay. Back in 1993, he was told this is inappropriate. Uh, it makes you look like a

00:42:30.440 pedophile, totally inappropriate. Uh, you shouldn't do that. So now he knows if he didn't before 0.96

00:42:37.300 and he keeps doing it, why would he keep doing it? Was he, what is he standing on principles? Like

00:42:42.660 some kind of principle? No, I will sleep in bed with strange boys. I, that, that, that principle,

00:42:46.580 I was, I'm going to fight for my right to do that. Is that what you really think? Now, if he's a

00:42:52.660 pedophile, which he was, then, then we can understand why he kept doing it because he had a compulsion

00:42:58.320 and that's what pedophiles do. They, they, this is why pedophiles need to be locked in prison forever 0.66

00:43:01.820 because they have a compulsion. They, they can't control it and they keep on doing it, even though

00:43:06.560 if they know that they're going to destroy their life in the process, not to mention destroying the

00:43:09.740 lives of the people, of their victims. So that we, we understand that. We know that that happens.

00:43:15.360 So it's easy to explain it in that way. But if you're, if you're latched onto this idea of innocence,

00:43:22.400 how could you possibly explain him continuing to do it even after being multiply accused of

00:43:28.780 child molestation and he keeps on doing it? Uh, did he have, did he have a non-pedophilic

00:43:36.700 compulsion to sleep with little boys? Is that even a thing? No. Okay. Just if I need to illustrate my

00:43:45.120 point, imagine that you work as a loss prevention officer at a department store, loss prevention,

00:43:53.020 those are the guys that go around making sure you're not stealing stuff. So imagine you work

00:43:56.420 as a loss prevention at a, at a store and, uh, you, you see a guy, uh, take a candy bar, uh, and put it

00:44:04.740 in his pocket and, and then start to walk away. And so now 99 times out of a hundred in your job,

00:44:14.580 when you see a guy put a candy bar in his pocket or put anything in their pocket that they didn't

00:44:18.740 pay for, they're trying to steal. That's, that's what thieves do. That is what shoplifters do.

00:44:24.440 So let's say you stop him and he says, Oh, no, no, no. I was going to pay for it. I know. Oh,

00:44:28.500 you're not supposed to put stuff in your pocket before you pay for it. I didn't realize that.

00:44:31.400 No, it's totally innocent. Don't be ignorant. Stop being ignorant. No, I, I, I would never do that. 0.99

00:44:35.720 I, I just put it in my pocket for safekeeping before I bring it to the, to the counter. That's all

00:44:40.120 totally innocent, man. Calm down. Now, even though in your experience, every single time someone put

00:44:48.480 something in their pocket before paying for it, they are trying to steal it. So there's no reason

00:44:52.820 at all to think that this guy's different, but let's just say that you're, you're, you're in a

00:44:57.820 really good mood and you feel like being generous and nice and charitable. Um, or maybe you find out

00:45:02.880 that the guy has a really good singing voice and she didn't know he's a good singer. No way he could

00:45:05.980 have done it. Uh, so, so then you let it slide. You say, all right, fine. But you know, look,

00:45:09.880 but you tell him, listen, don't put things in your pocket before you pay for them because that's

00:45:13.720 what shoplifters do. And it makes you look like a shoplifter. It's not at a very, at the very least,

00:45:17.440 that's not appropriate. Don't do that. Well, what if he comes back the next week and does it again?

00:45:22.200 And you stop him again and he says, Oh, Oh, Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. I didn't mean it. I was

00:45:26.560 totally, no, I was innocent again. I was just innocent. And so you let him go again. And then he comes

00:45:33.140 back a third time a few weeks later, he's putting stuff in his pocket again. And then he comes back

00:45:38.160 a fourth time. How many times does he need to do it, Em, before you realize that he's, Oh, he's

00:45:43.240 actually, he is not only a shoplifter, but he's a kleptomaniac who can't control himself. And that's

00:45:48.520 why he keeps doing it. I mean, does he have to do it 20 times before you conclude that maybe he's just

00:45:56.080 like every other shoplifter ever in history. So hopefully you see the, uh, comparison between

00:46:04.740 these two things. If that example is not enough to illustrate to you, uh, if that won't convince

00:46:11.520 you, then I, then there's nothing that can be said. All right. Um, finally from Justin. Hi, Matt.

00:46:19.000 Important question for you. Where do you think Le'Veon Bell ends up this office? Le'Veon Bell, the,

00:46:22.780 uh, uh, Steelers running back who refused to play last year for the Steelers, which as a Ravens fan,

00:46:29.720 that was a, I, I, I love that. That was great. Uh, the Steelers are imploding and I'm taking so

00:46:34.300 much joy in it. Where do I think Le'Veon Bell ends up as a free agent? I'm hoping the Ravens

00:46:38.260 there's a talk about that. I, I, I, as a Ravens fan, but I do think that he's obviously demanding a

00:46:44.740 lot of money and I'm in the school of thought that, uh, or I am in the, I'm in the camp that believes

00:46:49.480 that, uh, running backs are, that position is, is vastly over, um, valued and Le'Veon Bell's a

00:46:59.420 little bit different because he's also a good receiver. So, um, he has more value because of

00:47:04.700 that. But generally speaking, the thing with running backs is, uh, number one, they get injured

00:47:09.300 very easily and quickly, even more so than other positions. Number two, running back is a position

00:47:15.800 where, um, very often you find these guys who the, the, you have a, the, the plummet,

00:47:23.800 I guess the, the, the quality production plummet happens very quickly and suddenly at that position,

00:47:28.680 more so than any other position on the football field where you could have a guy that is, uh, you

00:47:33.620 know, 2000 yards from scrimmage, uh, all star, all pro. And then like two years later, he can barely

00:47:42.480 crack a thousand yards. I mean, this happens all the time. It's just the way the position works.

00:47:46.260 So you got to be very careful about investing any kind of money in it. And then also it's,

00:47:50.640 it's just, it's really easy to find running backs who can, you know, get you 1400 yards from scrimmage,

00:47:57.620 uh, and to find them in the third or fourth round of the draft or to, you know, find a kind of diamond

00:48:02.180 in the rough in free agency, or it's just really easy to do. The Ravens have been doing it for a long

00:48:06.320 time. They, they find these guys, they get a good two seasons out of them. They find another guy.

00:48:10.240 It's one of those positions where it's really easy to do that. Uh, unlike say cornerback,

00:48:14.580 a wide receiver or quarterback, um, where it's a lot harder to find real talent at running back.

00:48:22.640 You can find real talent pretty easily, pretty cheaply. So, uh, that's the, that's the problem

00:48:28.160 Le'Veon Bell's going to run into that. It just wouldn't make any sense to give them some long-term,

00:48:33.960 super expensive deal. Um, just because of the way the position works. 0.97

00:48:40.240 All right. We will leave, leave it there. Thanks everybody for watching. Thanks for listening.

00:48:45.560 Godspeed.

00:48:46.000 I'm Michael Knowles, host of the Michael Knowles show. The left has hypnotized the world as Ilana

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The Matt Walsh Show - March 07, 2019

Ep. 213 - Football Player Is Acquitted Of Rape Charges But His Life Is Still Destroyed

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