The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 216 - How Men Are Silenced In The Abortion Debate

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the dream is dead.

00:00:03.280 Democrats are giving up on impeachment.

00:00:05.620 Terrible tragedy. We'll talk about that.

00:00:07.160 Also, a man is suing an abortion clinic on behalf of his unborn child

00:00:11.360 who was aborted against his wishes.

00:00:14.140 This is a case that could have enormous and enormously positive repercussions.

00:00:18.360 So we'll talk about that.

00:00:19.480 Specifically, I want to talk about the ways that men are often marginalized

00:00:23.280 in the abortion debate.

00:00:25.140 So that and many other topics today on the Matt Walsh Show.

00:00:30.000 Well, Nancy Pelosi has caused some consternation on the left

00:00:38.900 because she said in a Washington Post interview

00:00:42.020 that she does not now favor impeaching Trump.

00:00:46.240 She said, I'm not for impeachment.

00:00:49.100 This is news.

00:00:49.820 I haven't said this to any press person before, but since you asked,

00:00:52.520 and I've been thinking about this, impeachment is so divisive to this country

00:00:56.380 that unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming

00:00:58.720 and bipartisan, I don't think we should go down that path

00:01:01.660 because it divides the country and he's just not worth it.

00:01:05.940 Now, she did, though, try to retain her resistance credentials

00:01:11.820 by then going on to talk about how Trump is intellectually

00:01:14.800 and ethically unfit for office, which even, you know,

00:01:19.340 we're so used to hearing that kind of thing.

00:01:20.820 But even a statement like that, which is so common from Democrats about Trump,

00:01:27.580 where they talk about how he's unfit for office.

00:01:29.480 But as recently as the Obama administration, for Republicans to say that he was unfit,

00:01:37.100 can you imagine a Republican saying that Obama was intellectually unfit for office?

00:01:41.780 That would have been a huge scandal. 0.61

00:01:45.140 And there may have been a few Republicans or a few,

00:01:48.660 some conservatives who said Obama was unfit for office,

00:01:51.800 but that kind of language was considered a big deal.

00:01:55.540 It was like, oh, you know.

00:01:57.360 But now this is just Democrats, just, they just, just, it's just normal.

00:02:02.620 It's just what they say.

00:02:03.520 He's, he's, he's unfit for office. 1.00

00:02:05.320 He's, he's scum. 1.00

00:02:06.460 He's, he's awful. 1.00

00:02:07.080 So Ilhan Omar said yesterday that Trump is not even human. 0.97

00:02:12.580 And, and yet again, that's just, you know, that's, that's where our rhetoric is now.

00:02:18.880 That's where, that's where, that's the state of political discourse is where that's completely

00:02:23.760 normal.

00:02:25.000 But she does think, anyway, Pelosi says that impeachment isn't a good idea.

00:02:30.320 Now think about this for a minute.

00:02:31.460 Think about where we are that, first of all, it took Nancy Pelosi two years.

00:02:37.080 To say that she, she doesn't want to impeach, even though that there were, even though there

00:02:41.600 was never any reason to impeach, it took her two years to say, let's not impeach.

00:02:46.280 And also that this news is a shock to other Democrats who really want impeachment, though,

00:02:51.680 again, they have no basis for it.

00:02:53.860 They have no reason.

00:02:54.720 They just want it.

00:02:56.420 And I've been saying all along that that's going to be the last straw for our democracy.

00:03:02.080 Uh, the last straw will be when an oppositional party tries officially to remove a sitting

00:03:10.040 president simply because they don't like him and they're opposed to his politics.

00:03:15.580 Now the Democrats don't really have the power to do that.

00:03:18.860 That's the other thing there's to impeach.

00:03:21.100 The president wouldn't accomplish anything.

00:03:23.080 Um, because the impeachment is just sort of like an indictment in order for there to be

00:03:28.160 a trial and actually remove him from office.

00:03:30.440 You need, I believe, two thirds of the Senate.

00:03:32.800 And of course, uh, they don't have anywhere close to two thirds of the Senate to make that

00:03:36.780 happen.

00:03:36.980 So they don't have the power to do it.

00:03:39.160 And that's part of the reason why no president has ever been successfully.

00:03:42.860 Uh, some, a few presidents have been impeached, but no president's been successfully removed

00:03:48.500 from office because it re it would require such an overwhelming amount of support in the

00:03:56.660 legislative branch that it is very difficult to do.

00:03:59.920 So that protects us.

00:04:00.880 And it turns out that our founding fathers were pretty smart dudes, you know, in the end,

00:04:05.600 um, they, they set it up so that you would probably need a really, really good reason,

00:04:14.700 legitimate reason to actually remove a president.

00:04:17.960 Now, if it's, if it was impossible to remove a president, then we would have tyranny, but

00:04:22.800 if it's too easy, then you're going to have presidents getting kicked out left and right.

00:04:26.540 And then you have a banana Republic.

00:04:27.940 So we don't have that.

00:04:29.540 Um, but I think we're moving in that direction.

00:04:33.420 We haven't, we haven't crossed that line yet.

00:04:35.600 Because of the way that the system is set up, our system prevents it.

00:04:39.860 But the fact that the idea of impeachment was entertained for so long without reason,

00:04:46.980 without cause is, uh, pretty frightening.

00:04:51.680 All right.

00:04:53.920 So enough politics.

00:04:55.260 That was four minutes of politics and we'll, we'll move on already because I think this

00:04:58.280 is a more important, more interesting topic.

00:05:00.520 Um, a man in Alabama by the name of Ryan majors has been granted the right to sue an abortion 0.91

00:05:10.720 clinic on behalf of his unborn child who was aborted, uh, by his girlfriend against his

00:05:16.060 wishes.

00:05:16.380 Now this, this case, as you can imagine, has not been received well to put it lightly by,

00:05:22.480 by the pro-abortion side.

00:05:24.520 I just saw an article in the independent that is calling this case terrifying.

00:05:29.100 This is a terrifying case.

00:05:30.720 It's terrifying that a father can seek justice on behalf of his murdered child.

00:05:35.640 Uh, terrifying.

00:05:36.440 If you're a child killer or an apologist for child killers.

00:05:40.340 Now this case is, is it's important, uh, and it's being called unprecedented because

00:05:48.100 it gives legal rights to an unborn baby.

00:05:50.800 And that is of course, enormously consequential in a very good way.

00:05:55.000 But I think it's also extremely important because by extension, it's giving voice to the

00:06:02.800 father, it's giving voice to the man as well as, um, the child that they're in, in an abortion.

00:06:10.020 There are three people involved.

00:06:12.020 There are three people who are profoundly, uh, affected.

00:06:15.880 That would be the mother, the father, and the child, of course.

00:06:19.680 But as our law stands right now, although there are three people involved, only one person

00:06:25.720 has any say or any rights.

00:06:28.040 And that would be the mother.

00:06:28.740 So this case gives a voice to the other two people involved.

00:06:34.900 And in fact, I want to, I'm going to play a quick clip of a local news report featuring

00:06:39.920 this father, uh, because I just want you to see in his own words, uh, I think it's pretty

00:06:45.340 powerful.

00:06:46.440 And this is, this is him, uh, talking about the situation in his own words.

00:06:50.540 Every time a woman goes to the Alabama women's center with the intent of getting an abortion, 0.99

00:06:55.220 she gets this pamphlet, and that's where the suit alleges that Brian Major's girlfriend

00:07:00.580 did receive her abortion.

00:07:01.940 And in this pamphlet, as she had to have flipped through it, if she did get this abortion at 0.93

00:07:06.040 this clinic, it even shows the different sizes of the baby at different points in the pregnancy.

00:07:11.660 And, and for Ryan to know that right here, around the six-week mark, according to that

00:07:15.660 suit, that's when his girlfriend did get that abortion. 1.00

00:07:18.420 He says, even at this point, it's still a decision he can't seem to wrap his head around.

00:07:24.080 I'm here for the men who actually want to have their baby.

00:07:28.340 It's been nearly two years since Ryan Major's girlfriend aborted their baby.

00:07:32.000 It was just like my whole world just fell apart.

00:07:34.960 And today he lives with a constant reminder of what could have been.

00:07:37.820 Right here in the first rows, I have a due date, and it's just when the baby was supposed

00:07:43.940 to be born.

00:07:44.600 Majors filed a lawsuit in Madison County Wednesday, suing Alabama Women's Center, 1.00

00:07:48.880 their employees, and the pharmaceutical company who makes the medication used in an abortion.

00:07:53.460 I believe that every child from conception is a baby, and it deserves to live.

00:07:58.520 I talked to Dalton Johnson, who owns the Alabama Women's Center.

00:08:01.280 He wasn't aware the suit had been filed, but did offer some insight into abortion procedures.

00:08:05.540 The suit says the baby was aborted at six weeks.

00:08:08.680 Johnson said at that point in the pregnancy, a woman can choose how she wants to end the pregnancy,

00:08:12.840 either by medication or surgery.

00:08:15.100 I just tried to plea with her and plea with her and just talk to her about it and see what I could do.

00:08:22.920 But in the end, there was nothing I could do to change her mind.

00:08:26.880 And even though it's too late for Majors to stop his girlfriend's abortion,

00:08:29.920 he said he wants to give a voice to other would-be dads who find themselves in the same spot.

00:08:34.420 Even though there's nothing I can do for the situation that I was in,

00:08:38.000 there is something I can do for the future situations for other people.

00:08:43.400 So, I think he's a hero.

00:08:45.940 What he's doing is heroic.

00:08:48.300 And you see here what is perhaps the most forbidden subject in public discourse today.

00:08:58.920 The most taboo thing to bring up, and that is the plight of men whose children are aborted against their wishes.

00:09:14.080 These are silent victims who we aren't allowed to talk about.

00:09:19.580 But the fact is that this man, Ryan, is not an aberration.

00:09:23.000 He is not alone.

00:09:24.820 There are many men like him.

00:09:26.260 There are many men who are victims of abortions themselves because their children are killed without their consent.

00:09:33.960 It's true that the opposite also happens quite a bit, right? 0.99

00:09:36.800 There are plenty of situations where you've got cowardly, weak, pathetic, disgusting men who pressure their girlfriends to get abortions. 1.00

00:09:45.240 And that does happen. 1.00

00:09:46.060 We hear about that sort of thing all the time.

00:09:48.340 But then there's also this.

00:09:50.040 What about the men who are pleading the other way, who beg the mother of their children not to do it?

00:09:56.260 Can you imagine?

00:09:58.380 Just try to put yourself in the shoes of this man for a minute.

00:10:02.100 Can you imagine you conceive a child and you're excited to be a father. 0.99

00:10:10.720 And then the mother of the child says, I'm going to kill the baby. 0.76

00:10:15.640 And there's nothing you can do about it. 0.98

00:10:17.500 You cannot stop me.

00:10:18.860 Can you imagine being in that position?

00:10:24.140 It's impossible to even conceive.

00:10:29.820 Of course, pro-abortion people are panicking over this, like I said, claiming that this is all about, you know, this is all about controlling women's bodies.

00:10:37.080 So Jessica Valenti, who's an especially vile pro-abortion feminist and a sociopath, was ranting about this case on Twitter, predictably, saying that this is her word. 1.00

00:10:49.360 She said this isn't about anything other than controlling women's bodies. 1.00

00:10:53.580 And then she added that she also hates Ryan's face. 0.99

00:10:57.440 She hates his face, she said, because she is, as I said, hateful and vile. 0.99

00:11:04.820 There's just, there aren't enough bad things you could say about the woman. 0.86

00:11:08.900 But of course, this is not about controlling women's bodies. 0.99

00:11:12.620 And what does it say about pro-abortion people that they can't conceive of any other reason why a man might not want his child to be killed?

00:11:25.200 Like, they literally can't understand that a father might actually just not want his child to be killed, not because it's part of any patriarchal conspiracy to control women, but maybe a father really just loves his child and doesn't want the child to be killed.

00:11:43.180 They can't understand that.

00:11:44.360 They actually don't understand it.

00:11:46.340 They say, what do you mean love it?

00:11:47.760 Love your child.

00:11:48.760 What is that?

00:11:49.320 I don't know.

00:11:49.880 Nobody does that.

00:11:51.260 They can't understand it.

00:11:52.320 They think, no, no, no, if a man doesn't want his kid to be killed, it could only be because there must be some, some dastardly motivation behind it.

00:12:02.360 Because these people are so empty and soulless inside that they, they can't understand the concept of loving an unborn child.

00:12:09.860 They don't even, they don't think it's possible.

00:12:12.080 But, um, yet the fact remains that this baby is not, uh, the woman's body.

00:12:23.520 Okay.

00:12:24.460 This is, this is not about controlling the woman's body because the thing that is at stake here is not the woman's body, but in fact, the body of an entirely separate person who is the baby.

00:12:35.700 And that person is 50% the result of the woman and 50% the result of the man. 0.90

00:12:43.300 That, that, that, that other human, that third party involved would not exist without the man.

00:12:49.740 Um, so that child is not the woman's body and that child does not belong to the woman. 0.96

00:12:56.720 That child belongs, first of all, to God, but in terms of, in earthly terms, that child belongs just as much to the father.

00:13:06.060 Um, as he does to the, to the mother, um, the, you know what, it's, it's not even like 51 50.

00:13:13.600 It's not even that it is 50 50.

00:13:17.400 Um, or maybe better yet, a hundred percent, a hundred percent that, that child, that's the better way of putting it.

00:13:24.460 That child is 100% the son of this father and a hundred percent, the son of the mother as well.

00:13:32.400 Um, think about the mixed messages that we send here with, with these sorts of situations where the message from, um, the left and by extension from our culture is what we say to men is when the baby's in the womb, we say, uh, that's none of your business, none of your concern.

00:13:55.980 You have no vested interest in this. Uh, you have no say you have no rights. Uh, it doesn't matter what you want.

00:14:06.260 If she wants to keep the baby, she's going to keep the baby. She wants to kill the baby. She's going to kill the baby. 1.00

00:14:10.280 Your opinion does not matter. And that's the message for nine months. That's what we say to men. 1.00

00:14:15.980 Your opinion doesn't matter. You have no interest in this. It's not your child. It doesn't matter.

00:14:20.020 Mind your own business over and over and over again. That's what we say for nine months.

00:14:23.680 And then the moment that child emerges from the birth canal, then we flip it around and say, where's child support? You need to be here. Don't be a deadbeat. Where did you go? You need to be here taking care of this child.

00:14:34.960 Now, of course, I agree that, um, when the child is born, the father needs to be there and shouldn't be a deadbeat and everything, but it's a mixed message.

00:14:47.540 Uh, in one sense, if the father, that's a deadbeat and goes off and doesn't want to take care of his child. Well, he's just, I guess all he's doing is he took you seriously.

00:14:59.540 When you said it's not his, it's none of his concern. And the father said, okay, well, I guess not then. All right. Well, fine.

00:15:09.000 But even someone like Jessica Valenti, uh, I don't know if she has any kids, but, uh, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure if she had a kid, she would be, wow, no, that father needs to be here taking care of this kid.

00:15:21.000 Yeah. Yeah. You say that now. What about before? What if I take you up on your, uh, what if I actually take all of your blathering seriously about how this is just your body?

00:15:35.640 Well, Hey, there was, there was, there's no baby at all. It's just your body. So I guess when the baby comes out, that's like your, that's your organ or your limb that is a sun suddenly come to life.

00:15:45.720 And, but it's still yours. It's not mine. No, we, that's not, that's not fair to the men. That's not fair to the baby. Um, it's just, it doesn't make any sense that child, there needs to be a consistent message to men.

00:16:03.140 And the message is from the very beginning, from conception, this is your child and you need to be here for the child. And, and not just when the child is born, by the way, but from the very beginning, uh, the mother of your child is pregnant. You need to be there for her. You need to be supporting her. You need to be interested. You need to be all these and take her to doctor's appointments. I mean, be involved, uh, get married to her. If you're not yet, by the way, that should be the message.

00:16:31.360 See, that's a message that, that works for everybody. You notice that that message works for everyone works for the child. It works for the mother, it works for the father. Everybody is built up. Everybody is lifted up. Everyone is putting it put into a safer and better situation when that's our message from conception. But when we try to say that, oh, you know, you need to wait nine months for your fatherly instinct to set in.

00:16:56.700 Uh, and up until that point, this is none of your business. Well, once you start doing that, uh, well, you can't do it. And what's going to happen is sort of, you're going to have one principle that's extended in one direction either way.

00:17:11.180 So if the principle that we're telling the fathers, when the child is in the womb, if what we're telling them is this is none of your business, not your child, don't worry about it. Get out. Mind your own business. 0.86

00:17:21.220 Then in many cases, that principle is going to be extended beyond the womb.

00:17:29.920 But if you go the other way and you say, no, this is your business, this is your child, this is 100% your responsibility, just till it gets 100% the woman's responsibility, then that principle will, will also be extended. 0.78

00:17:41.660 And it's a, you know, it's an interesting thing that the, the pro-life message, um, has this effect, right? Of lifting people up and, uh, just making everyone's life better, protecting life, treasuring life.

00:18:07.840 I mean, that's, that's the, it's pro-life and that's why the, the moniker of pro-choice doesn't mean anything because these people aren't about choice.

00:18:18.580 Even they're not about choice. Pro-choice people are manifestly opposed to choice and freedom in so many, when it comes to so many other issues, but even when it comes to abortion, well, they, they're only, they're only concerned about the choice of one person.

00:18:32.740 Again, there are three people involved. They only care about the choice of one person and that's the mother. 1.00

00:18:37.840 And even then they only care about the choice if she's choosing to abort. Uh, but if she chooses to keep the baby, well, then plant paranoid's got nothing for it. 1.00

00:18:45.840 Plant paranoid doesn't care. Plant paranoid says, get out of here. If you're not going to kill the baby, we don't care. Go somewhere else. We're not going to help you.

00:18:53.320 So they care about the choice of one person. And as long as it's only one particular choice, but the father has no choice.

00:19:00.780 The baby has no choice. So pro-choice means nothing. Pro-life actually means something though, uh, in that people who are really pro-life, they, it really means that they just, they are in favor of, they think life is a beautiful thing and it should be treasured and protected.

00:19:15.640 And I mean, how can you disagree? How can you be a living human being and disagree with that?

00:19:23.460 All right. Um, so on a related note, but on, on the opposite end of the spectrum, on the opposite end of the fatherhood spectrum, I wanted to mention this cause I saw this yesterday.

00:19:34.260 And, uh, you see this kind of thing these days, somewhat frequently, there was a guy, um, a verified account on Twitter, an author of some kind, I think, who, uh, took to Twitter yesterday to complain that parenthood is really hard, really trying, very difficult.

00:19:55.600 And he said, uh, publicly that he regrets ever having his son. Okay. So this is, we just talked about Ryan majors. This is like the opposite of Ryan majors. Uh, that was a man who wanted to be a father. And this is someone who doesn't. So he said, uh, this guy said he loves his son, loves his son, but he regrets having him says his wife feels the same way.

00:20:19.740 I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what he said. Um, now I'm not going to put this guy's name out there because this isn't about sicking the mob on him. That's not the point.

00:20:30.920 I just point to it because it's part of a trend that you find online. And it seems every few months that there's something like this. There was, it was a couple of months ago. We talked about it on the show. There was a Hollywood director, someone who went online and said the same thing, expressed regret about ever having a child.

00:20:47.800 Um, and there have been articles about this and so on in the media. Uh, like I said, every few months you see this, some article about parents who regret having their kids. Or, um, I remember, and I remember this well, because it was right around the time when we were having our twins. Um, it was about five years ago.

00:21:09.740 And there was a big article in one of the publications, uh, written by a father who the, him and his wife had had twins through IVF and his life was just so miserable and so terrible and wah, wah. And he was whining about it and talking about how much he regretted having, uh, these, these twins.

00:21:30.060 So I remember that well, because that was right before we had twins ourselves. So you see this kind of thing, right? This is a sentiment that people feel apparently increasingly comfortable expressing publicly.

00:21:42.880 And there are a couple of points that come to mind when I see this. And when I read this guy's tweets, uh, in particular, first of all, he says he loves his child.

00:21:54.120 Of course, I love my child. I love my son, but I wish he was never born. Well, okay. Then you don't love your child.

00:22:04.140 And this is something that people do where we, we think of, you know, parent loving their child as this sort of automatic thing.

00:22:16.540 And so we assume that, well, everyone loves a child. And so even if someone says, yeah, I love my child. I wish that he didn't exist,

00:22:23.560 but I, of course, I, of course, I love him. Well, then by definition, you don't love him.

00:22:30.980 Sometimes you, you, you hear the same thing from, uh, women who abort their child. They say, well, I, I love my child,

00:22:37.700 but it just wasn't the right time. No, you didn't love them. That is the opposite of loving them.

00:22:44.500 So no, this guy, you do not love your, you clearly do not love him.

00:22:48.000 If you ever find yourself wishing that a person didn't, it's not even this in some ways, this is even

00:22:55.080 worse than wishing that someone was dead. As horrible as that is, as horrible, as horrible

00:23:01.860 as it is to even conceive of someone wishing that their child was dead. Um, when someone regrets being

00:23:08.520 a parent, well, what you wish is that you're, that this person, your child never existed. You,

00:23:14.120 you want to negate, you wish that you could negate their entire existence. So that's not love.

00:23:21.620 Second thing is, let's be clear about this. It is 100% about weakness and selfishness on the part of

00:23:29.880 this man and his wife too, if, if she really does feel the same way. Um, and that is only,

00:23:36.600 that is only highlighted by the fact that he has one child. Okay. You have one, you've got two adults

00:23:44.020 versus one child. Now, look, there could be extenuating circumstances sometimes that make it

00:23:50.300 especially difficult or challenging to have one kid. If there's a severe medical problems

00:23:55.780 or some other situation that can make that difficult, but he didn't mention anything like

00:24:00.660 that. So it seems like this is just a normal situation and in a normal situation with a healthy

00:24:05.940 child, um, one kid is really not difficult at all. What are you doing whining about it?

00:24:17.620 But parents of one of your parents that just have one kid, you hear this a lot, they'll constantly

00:24:21.640 talk about how difficult, how hard it is, how difficult, I mean, come on, there are challenges

00:24:25.760 involved in it. I know, but you got two parents versus one kid. How could you possibly,

00:24:32.560 how overwhelming could it possibly, the two of you and one of him, how bad could it ever be?

00:24:40.780 Um, if you're feeling that overwhelmed by one kid, it just means, this is all that it means.

00:24:48.220 It just means that you are completely unwilling to make even the slightest adjustments to your life

00:24:54.920 because with one kid, uh, you're going to have to make some sacrifices. You're gonna have to make

00:25:00.340 some adjustments, but not even the adjustments you make. What don't even have to be that serious

00:25:06.280 with one kid. You could basically continue living your life almost like you did before,

00:25:12.460 but you could still go out pretty much whenever you want. Just get a babysitter. I mean,

00:25:16.580 to get a babysitter for one kid is not that expensive. Um, you've got, you know, one parent

00:25:22.840 or the other can always go out and get time to themselves. And the other parent can watch the

00:25:26.340 one kid. You can bring one kid with you pretty much anywhere. And, and you know, it's not a big,

00:25:31.960 you take them to a restaurant. And if the kid gets a little bit rowdy or something, you got one of the

00:25:36.000 parents can take them out for a minute. But when it's just one kid, you can do these things.

00:25:39.520 It's when you start getting more kids that then all of a sudden you really are changing your,

00:25:43.780 your lifestyle considerably. So this is what jumped out at me is that if you're feeling this way with

00:25:48.400 one kid, that just means that you, you are not willing to make any sacrifices. You don't want to

00:25:53.860 change your life at all. That's how selfish you are. Uh, and yes, parenthood will be an awful, 0.99

00:26:04.120 terrible, miserable thing if you are totally unwilling to sacrifice. But if you can just get over the

00:26:15.220 fact that you're going to have to make some adjustments in your life, if you can accept that

00:26:21.100 and move on and accept the parameters of your new life, well, then there's a whole lot of joy to be

00:26:27.800 discovered. But sadly, there are many parents who, uh, can't do that because they are so, so selfish and

00:26:37.020 weak. You talk to adults sometimes. Uh, in fact, I was talking to someone, someone recently about this

00:26:43.080 very subject and, um, um, they told me that their own parents, this was an adult. They told me their

00:26:51.140 own parents would tell them as they were growing up that they, the parents wish that this person had

00:26:58.460 never been born. And you hear that sometimes, uh, you know, adults who, who, who grew up with this,

00:27:04.620 with parents who wished that they didn't exist. I mean, think about how weak and just selfish and

00:27:17.260 narcissistic you have to be, especially if at no point you, listen, I remember when our, um,

00:27:27.720 when our twins were born, we had now, I, we never had the experience of having one kid because we went

00:27:32.360 right to twins. And, um, and when our twins were born, I can, I can distinctly remember that first

00:27:42.800 night, uh, with the kids with us. And that was really overwhelming. That was like, that was a moment

00:27:50.020 of what did we just do. Um, but very quickly, even when it's a, such a huge change, when you go from,

00:28:03.820 you know, a family with no kids to two right away, um, very quickly, I think for most people,

00:28:09.540 you just, even though it's very challenging, challenging to have, to have a newborn. And,

00:28:13.920 and by the way, when I'm talking about how easy it is to have one kid, uh, I, with the,

00:28:18.920 with the exception of the newborn stage, the newborn stage is doesn't matter how many kids

00:28:22.600 want one newborn because of the sleeping factor. If you're, if your newborn isn't sleeping for six

00:28:27.600 months, well, uh, even if it is just one, that's going to be really, that is really hard. Um,

00:28:32.960 but that doesn't last forever. You get, you get over that, you get past that stage pretty quickly,

00:28:36.640 but, and even though it's very challenging in the newborn stage, specifically because of the

00:28:43.200 sleeping thing, I mean, you're not getting sleep that has an effect on you psychologically.

00:28:46.340 There's no question about it, but even then you, you quickly accept, right? For most people,

00:28:52.000 you accept, well, this, okay, this is, this is what my life is now. This is my new existence.

00:28:58.580 And any thought of, I wish it wasn't like this, or why did we do this? I mean, that,

00:29:04.300 all that stuff just kind of evaporates. It doesn't mean anything anymore because this is simply your

00:29:08.160 life. Wherever you go, there you are, right? This is your life. But then there are parents who,

00:29:15.020 I think for most parents, you accept your new existence very quickly, like within days.

00:29:22.620 But then there are some parents who never do. They go years and they can never accept it.

00:29:29.120 And that is nothing but selfishness and weakness. And that's what we should call it.

00:29:36.060 I don't want to hear any of this. Uh, well, we have to be understanding of them and, you know,

00:29:43.040 let's be sympathetic to the, no, I'm not sympathetic to them at all. Stop being weak. You coward,

00:29:48.380 be a man, man up, get, get over yourself. Really. 1.00

00:29:51.600 All right. Um, I want to get to some emails. So you can always email the show,

00:29:57.500 mattwalshowatgmail.com, mattwalshowatgmail.com. All right. Um,

00:30:02.180 I think we're going to do just one email, uh, in the interest of time here. Let me see if I can find

00:30:09.660 the one that was interesting. Okay. This is from Joanna. She says, hi, Matt, I'm getting caught up

00:30:14.880 on all your podcasts, went back to the beginning and have been listening to most of them. I just listened

00:30:19.380 to your podcast on the flat earth theory. That was from a few, few months ago. Have you seen the

00:30:23.500 documentary behind the curve? It's all about the flat earth theory and its proponents. I found it

00:30:27.760 very fascinating. I was wondering if you've heard of it slash seen it. Well, I hadn't heard of it or

00:30:32.760 seen it. I got this email over the weekend and I hadn't heard of it or seen it, Joanna, until I read

00:30:37.920 this email. And, uh, I was in a hotel. I was on the road over the weekend and looking for something

00:30:42.640 to watch. So I took this suggestion and I watched this documentary about the flat earth theorists,

00:30:48.320 uh, and if you want to go watch it behind the curve is what it's called.

00:30:53.620 My God, it was really like gawking at a car wreck. In fact, it was like gawking at people

00:30:59.820 who are gawking at a car wreck and arguing about whether or not an alien caused it. That's,

00:31:04.260 that's what it was like. It was disturbing, uh, darkly hilarious, very interesting,

00:31:11.740 but it made my faith in humanity plummet to an all time low. And it was never that high to begin with.

00:31:17.160 So if you haven't seen it, uh, this movie behind the curve, it's, it's about the flat

00:31:20.920 earth theorists who we can't even really call theorists, right? The flat earth theory is not

00:31:26.300 really a theory. Um, because for something to be a theory as a, as a scientist in the documentary

00:31:31.760 explained something has to, if something is a theory, it needs to be falsifiable and not already

00:31:38.180 falsified. And then I would add a third criterium that it needs to have explanatory power, meaning it

00:31:44.160 has to sufficiently explain what we see occurring around us in order for it to really be a theory.

00:31:50.240 Um, but flat earth, the flat earth thing has already been falsified for thousands of years.

00:31:56.740 And thus it is no longer falsifiable. Uh, like if you're going to reject the thousands of different

00:32:05.620 falsifications of this insane idea and invent out of whole cloth, these cinematic conspiracies that

00:32:12.320 explain everything away that you see, well, then it's graduated to something that is both

00:32:16.740 falsified and unfalsifiable, which is peak crazy. When you've got something that's already been

00:32:23.920 falsified, but it also can no longer be falsified anymore because of this fortification of conspiracy

00:32:31.440 theory that you've erected. Well, that that's just, that's as crazy as it gets. And then also the

00:32:36.320 flat earth theory has no explanatory power. Um, because for instance, it can't even explain

00:32:41.820 something as simple as, well, when astronauts go into space, they can orbit the earth in the

00:32:48.440 international space station and see the globe. So your flatter 30 flatter theory has to be able to

00:32:54.380 explain that and just saying, Oh no, they're lying. It's a conspiracy. That's not an explanation.

00:33:00.640 Uh, to reject reality is not a good explanation for reality. But I thought what made the documentary

00:33:07.940 fascinating, especially is just to see how these people, um, get sucked into this crazy belief,

00:33:15.520 how they justify it to themselves. And then this is to me was the most interesting part.

00:33:20.160 It shows how the flat earthers are so addicted to conspiracy theories that they end up separating

00:33:27.020 into factions and like denominations and then coming up with conspiracy theories about each other.

00:33:35.080 So there's a, there was a, um, a certain prominent flat earther, uh, this kind of the,

00:33:43.720 the spokeswoman for flatter theory, apparently, and other flat earthers have come up with a conspiracy

00:33:50.600 theory that she is a CIA agent working for Warner brothers for some reason or something like that.

00:33:59.200 Uh, and, and this is just what they, they, they love conspiracy theories so much. They just can't

00:34:03.540 help it. They make it about each other. There was an interesting moment in the documentary where

00:34:07.800 that woman, I forget it. I think it was Patricia was her name. Um, she was talking about 0.52

00:34:12.920 these conspiracy theories that people have about her, including there are some people who think that

00:34:19.720 she's a reptilian alien creature, by the way, shapeshifter. Uh, and she was saying she, there 0.74

00:34:24.660 was just, there was this brief moment where you could see this glimmer of light. There was, there

00:34:30.520 was this moment of, of recognition very briefly where she said, she said, I don't know, these people

00:34:38.700 come up with crazy conspiracy conspiracy theories about me. I don't, is that what I'm doing? Am I like

00:34:44.380 them? And then she quickly shook, shook that off and said, no, no, no, no, no. I'm different. I'm

00:34:49.140 totally different. But there was that moment. Oh, it almost dawned out on her almost. It was very

00:34:55.300 interesting. Um, and the other thing I think that it shows is how people invent and maintain these

00:35:01.000 conspiracy theories and also why they do so psychologically. Um, and so it's, it's interesting.

00:35:09.980 I would, I would go and it's, it's, it's, I think as a, as a psychological portrait of conspiracy

00:35:20.180 theorists, uh, it's worth watching. And the, the main thing you see about how conspiracy theories

00:35:26.660 operate is, and you've, you've, you've probably already noticed this from other conspiracy theories,

00:35:34.420 but all they need is just one allegedly unexplained detail, uh, just one. And they can, they can build

00:35:47.980 an entire mythology out of that one tiny little gap in the official narrative, even if it's not

00:35:55.060 really a gap. So, uh, for instance, the nine 11 truthers, the big thing for them, especially early

00:36:01.660 on was, well, uh, jet fuel, uh, doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel. And then that was all they

00:36:09.200 needed. They were off to the races. And of course you say, well, but yes, it, it burns hot enough to

00:36:14.720 weaken steel and then it collapses under its own weight. But, uh, by the time you've already offered

00:36:19.340 that correction, they're way over there and there's no getting them back. So with flat earthers, they have

00:36:24.800 a couple little things like that where they say, Oh yeah, well then what, what about this?

00:36:30.560 Um, and it's always something like, well, if I stand really far away from a city, I can still see

00:36:36.400 the skyline. But if we're on a, if, if it's, if we're on a globe, then I shouldn't be able to see

00:36:42.920 it because it should be on the other side of the globe. And that that's all the logic they need. And

00:36:46.980 of course you say, well, yes, but it's a really big globe. So you have to be really far away from the

00:36:51.840 thing to not be able to see it. If you're only a couple of miles away, you'll still be able to see

00:36:55.880 it, but, um, it doesn't matter. All they need is just that one little excuse. And in that gap,

00:37:03.300 they can build this entire fantasy. Um, interesting to see. All right. We'll leave it there. Thanks

00:37:11.060 for watching everybody. Thanks for being here and Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - March 12, 2019

Ep. 216 - How Men Are Silenced In The Abortion Debate

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