The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 22 - Boys Should Not Be Forced To Include Girls In Everything

00:00:00.000 All right, everybody. You can see the very active background, the active setting. I'm in D.C. today, one of my least favorite places on Earth, but I had to be here. So here I am.

00:00:10.660 All right. The process is now complete. The Boy Scouts, maybe you heard the news yesterday, the Boy Scouts, a once proud and important organization and an organization that used to help shape boys into men, is now dead.

00:00:25.400 It had been dying for some time now, but I think it's officially official. They made the announcement yesterday, and it's an announcement that even 10 years ago would have seemed like some kind of outlandish, ridiculous parody, but now it's real.

00:00:41.220 It actually happened. The Boy Scouts said today that they're dropping, or yesterday, I should say, that they're dropping boy from Boy Scouts, and they shall henceforth be known as the Scouts because, well, because we're including girls, and we can't exclude girls from the organization or from the name.

00:00:59.880 And the Boy Scouts giving up their name. It's just the last and unavoidable step in, well, not even really the last step because there's more to come, I'm sure, but this is just the latest step in a process that's been in a devolution that's been happening for years now.

00:01:14.320 And it began with, I think it really began in earnest, when the Boy Scouts finally surrendered to the left on the issue of gay scouts, and they said, fine, we can have gay scouts.

00:01:27.540 And then the left came back, and they said, okay, but you need to have gay scout leaders. And so the Boy Scouts said, fine. Then the left came back, and they said, okay, but now you need to have transgenders.

00:01:35.900 And the Boy Scouts said, fine, but please leave us alone after this. We're surrendering on this. I mean, this is it, right? You won't ask for more. 0.67

00:01:43.140 And the left said, yeah, that's fine. Once you just do this one last thing, and that'll be it. And so they did it.

00:01:50.180 And then the left came back the next day and said, oh, by the way, you need to admit girls now. 0.98

00:01:54.620 And so the Boy Scouts, always with that steely spine, immediately said, okay, fine, we'll admit girls.

00:02:02.100 And then they said, now you need to change your name because it's exclusionary. And they said, okay, fine, we'll change our name.

00:02:07.680 And I have heard the argument. Some people have said that, well, it's, yeah, they're admitting girls, but they're still going to separate boy and girl troops.

00:02:16.140 So you're still going to have gender separated troops, but they're all going to be part of the same umbrella organization.

00:02:21.620 And to that, I say two things. Number one, it's irrelevant.

00:02:23.780 The fact is that they're bringing girls into the Boy Scouts and abandoning their identity and their name for the sake of being inclusive and for the sake of being politically correct.

00:02:33.080 And number two, I mean, have you really not noticed the pattern yet?

00:02:38.060 I mean, is it possible that you haven't noticed the pattern? Do you really think that that's going to be it?

00:02:42.760 You really think that they're going to keep gender segregated troops at this point?

00:02:47.720 No, of course not. Within, within like a year, the announcement's going to come that, okay, now everything is co-ed.

00:02:54.260 I mean, everything, camping trips, everything. This is, I mean, it's a one, I 100% guaranteed that it will happen.

00:03:01.680 Now, I'm not going to let my sons anywhere near this embarrassment of an organization.

00:03:08.700 It's no longer equipped to provide the moral example that it once provided and the moral example that it was founded in order to provide.

00:03:18.660 Remember, the Boy Scouts originally, it was supposed to be a Christian boys organization that was concerned not just with giving boys life skills and teaching them about the outdoors,

00:03:29.580 but with forming them morally, moral formation.

00:03:34.840 And ever since they started surrendering to the LGBT camp, once that began, then they'd already forfeited that aspect of their mission, 0.70

00:03:45.340 which is to say they forfeited their mission.

00:03:47.560 But, you know, I think this thing with the Boy Scouts is an example of a trend that's been going on for a long time.

00:03:52.880 Well, two trends. One trend is organizations surrendering to the PC mob, so that's one.

00:03:58.760 But the other trend is how we don't let boys have their own spaces anymore.

00:04:04.740 Boys are not allowed to have their own things, you know, things that are just, just belong to them.

00:04:10.840 This is the trend.

00:04:11.960 We've gone through and we've gotten rid of all the spaces where boys used to come together and just be with each other and just be themselves.

00:04:23.840 You know, I remember when I was a kid a long, long time ago, but I remember when this, when the big thing,

00:04:30.740 this whole process of, okay, we got to have co-ed everything, we've got to merge the genders into every activity. 1.00

00:04:38.220 That's when it was kind of beginning. And so the big thing then was we got to include all the girls in all the sports.

00:04:44.320 So every baseball team, every rec baseball team that I played on, there was a token girl on the team,

00:04:51.480 even though, or at least where I lived, there was also a perfectly fine girls softball league.

00:04:58.700 And the girls could go there and they could play softball with the other girls. And it was great.

00:05:03.020 So they did have, it's not like they didn't have sports they could play.

00:05:05.760 They had a girl's team, but some of the girls said, no, I want to be with the boys.

00:05:10.920 And some of the parents said, no, that's where I want to be.

00:05:13.840 And so, of course, the league very quickly caved to that and said, fine.

00:05:17.200 And the girls got to be on the team.

00:05:19.820 But, you know, nobody ever stopped and asked the boys.

00:05:23.140 No one ever asked the boys, hey, do you want to play with a girl?

00:05:26.620 All that mattered was the girl wanted to play with the boys. 0.98

00:05:29.560 It didn't matter if the boys wanted to play with the girl. It's what the girl wanted. 0.89

00:05:32.540 And so she got to have it. So we started, you know, we started taking away all the boys sports.

00:05:37.540 So we got to include girls in it. Now, I remember even when I was in high school,

00:05:41.340 we started seeing girls playing football. And so that's a thing now.

00:05:44.600 And of course, it's completely ridiculous. And even when I think back even to recess

00:05:49.480 in elementary school, if the boys got a pickup game of pickup basketball going or they're playing

00:05:55.600 dodgeball, just the boys. And it was kind of a rough and fast game.

00:05:59.180 And very often you'd have the finger wagging teacher who shows up and says, now, now, now,

00:06:03.320 you got to include everybody. You got to include Rachel too, which I get it.

00:06:08.180 You got to teach kids to play together and everything like that.

00:06:10.940 But sometimes you also have to just let the boys do their thing.

00:06:14.680 Sometimes if the boys are having a game and it's a rough, it's a fast game,

00:06:18.180 you got to let just, just let them play.

00:06:19.940 Because you bring a girl into it and it, I mean, it ruins it. 1.00

00:06:24.440 I'm sorry. It just does. For in many cases, for the boys, when they're playing a sport,

00:06:28.680 when you say you, when you, when you require, when you insist, they have to include a girl,

00:06:34.540 you're kind of ruining it because girls are not as good as boys.

00:06:40.000 They're not as athletic. They're not as strong. They're not as aggressive.

00:06:42.460 It's just a fact of the matter.

00:06:44.800 And the boys don't want to be as aggressive with them, with the girls, as they are with each other.

00:06:50.320 So boys, especially if they're playing basketball or something, if there are no refs,

00:06:54.140 then essentially every sport turns into tackle football because they're just,

00:06:59.540 a whole part of the point when boys get together and they play a sport,

00:07:04.120 probably half of the point for them is to kind of let out their aggression.

00:07:08.820 And just that physicality is a, is a big, and just, just clobber each other.

00:07:14.820 That's a big part of the point. When you start injecting girls into it, well, they can't really, 1.00

00:07:19.300 they don't feel right. They don't want to do that with girls and they shouldn't do that with girls.

00:07:23.880 And so it just changes the dynamic. And this is what happens when you, there are different,

00:07:29.660 there's a dynamic. When you've got a bunch of boys together doing something, there's a certain

00:07:33.200 dynamic. You've got a bunch of girls together doing something. There's a certain dynamic. 0.90

00:07:36.320 When you combine them, it changes the dynamic completely. And we've moved far beyond sports

00:07:43.440 at this point, of course. Now this can be found everywhere in our culture. Girls are constantly 1.00

00:07:48.580 breaking into the boys clubs and they're always celebrated for their trailblazing achievement.

00:07:54.720 When they break into the boys club, they say, I'm in the boys club now, but what is the achievement

00:07:59.220 exactly? The boys club was a boys club for a reason. It's a club for boys. When you get rid of the

00:08:04.940 boys qualifier, you have destroyed the club's entire purpose. So what's your achievement? You've

00:08:09.960 just, you've just ruined it is what you've done. And you can see it's not just with boys. It's even

00:08:15.560 with men's lodges used to be a big thing. And now they either don't exist or they're not nearly as

00:08:22.660 prevalent because even men, believe it or not, sometimes like to have places they can go where

00:08:29.400 it's just themselves. But we say that's no longer permitted. And yet, even as we get rid of all

00:08:36.320 these boy spaces, these boys or boy organizations, we haven't gotten rid of the need that men have and

00:08:43.540 boys have for that kind of male bonding. That's still there, especially for young men. And there's

00:08:49.560 a reason why there's a pretty good reason why boys don't want to include girls in everything,

00:08:55.500 not just with sports, but even if they're just hanging out or if they're in the woods or the

00:08:59.840 boy scouts, sometimes they don't want to include the girls, even in that context. And the reason is

00:09:06.240 that adding a girl into the picture, as I said, it changes the dynamic. They feel like they have to 0.99

00:09:11.680 tone things down. They have to feminize things for the sake of the girl. And now even worse, there's 1.00

00:09:16.880 this added pressure for the boys where they feel like they got to impress her and they're not able to

00:09:21.660 just enjoy themselves and relax and be themselves. Now in that free and open environment that exists

00:09:27.720 between boys, now they got to impress the girl. Everything now is about the girl. You got a group

00:09:33.900 of boys, you inject one girl into it, and now everything is about her. And that's why you have

00:09:39.680 girls sometimes who insist on being a part of the boy things. They want to do the boy things. They want 0.89

00:09:44.140 to be in the boy organizations. They want to play the boy sports. They want to intrude on all the boy

00:09:49.040 areas. I think most girls don't want that. They also want to have their own spaces and they don't 1.00

00:09:54.860 necessarily want to be surrounded by 50 boys, right? The girls who do want that, the reason they want 0.99

00:10:00.820 it is because they know it's going to be all about them and they're going to get attention. It's

00:10:04.480 attention seeking is what it is. When you've got a boy sport, girl sport, and almost everyone,

00:10:11.400 you know, boys are playing the boy sport, girls are playing the girl sport, everyone's having fun.

00:10:15.040 And then you have that one girl who insists, no, I want to be in the boy sport. I want to be there.

00:10:19.900 This is where adults have to come in and say, no, okay, it's what you want, but you can't have it.

00:10:25.560 Let them have their fun. This is over here for you. You can't have everything you want. I know you

00:10:30.560 want to do it because you want the attention, but you can't always have the attention you want.

00:10:36.000 And I wonder where are the adults sometimes to say, no, just let the boys have their time.

00:10:41.000 Just let the boys, they're playing a game. Just let them have it. Let them play.

00:10:44.920 Leave them alone. So when the, when the girl enters into the picture, then she becomes the

00:10:49.200 kind of the focal point, especially when you've got young, younger boys, teenage boys, especially

00:10:53.560 the girl becomes the focal point because no matter how we, we think we live in this

00:10:59.080 progressive enlightened age, but at the end of the day, the boys still see the girl as a girl and

00:11:06.060 they will treat her like that. And that's just human nature. It's not ever going to change.

00:11:10.380 I know. And it's not just girls too. Sometimes you hear women who will say, who will say, Oh,

00:11:17.460 I got, I have a lot of guy friends. And when I'm hanging out with them, I'm just one of the

00:11:21.400 guys. I'm just one of the guys. You hear that from women sometimes. And of course you hear 1.00

00:11:27.280 that and you think you don't want to say it out loud. I will now. But when you hear it,

00:11:32.280 you think to yourself, no, you're not. You're not actually one of the guys. Maybe they, they,

00:11:38.160 they may have told you that they see you that way, but they don't, they're lying to you. You're

00:11:43.280 not one of the guys, which is fine because you're a girl and that's fantastic. But you're not one of

00:11:48.100 the guys, just like they're not one of the girls. When you, when you're hanging out with a group of

00:11:51.600 guys, you're not, you're not one of them because you're not a guy. You don't have the same connection

00:11:56.420 with the guys that they have with each other. You don't understand them the way that they

00:11:59.440 understand each other. Uh, it's just, it's not the same bond. Now, if you marry one of those guys,

00:12:05.140 then you will come to understand him and know him better than anyone else on earth, including

00:12:10.580 himself. I have no doubt that my wife knows me better than anyone. She knows me better than I

00:12:14.660 know myself half the time. And through him, I think you'll start to understand men generally,

00:12:20.300 but just a single woman in a, as a member of a group of guys, as just a friend. No, you don't

00:12:27.000 have the same connection. You're not one of the guys and it's just a different dynamic,

00:12:30.880 which you might not realize because women, a woman is not going to observe in the interaction 1.00

00:12:36.740 between men, unless she's a part of it. Right. Most of the time. So she, she sees how they are

00:12:43.120 when she's around and they, she assumes, well, this is how they are. They're just being natural.

00:12:47.240 They're being themselves. Not quite. It does change when you're not there, just like it does with

00:12:53.860 women. That's just a natural, natural thing. And then a woman might say, well, I cuss and spit and 1.00

00:13:00.680 burp and wrestle around, wrestle around in the mud. Like, like guys, I'm just like them. I'm,

00:13:05.240 I'm, you know, I'm just, I, I, I'm a, I'm just like them. Now, if that's actually true. And I find

00:13:11.100 that probably 90% of the time when a woman makes this claim that she's, she's just like the guys and 1.00

00:13:16.160 she's, you know, rough and tumble probably 90 to 95% of the time, that's not true at all. 0.99

00:13:22.740 But for the five to 10% of the time when it is true, here, here's the thing. When guys look at a

00:13:30.080 woman imitating and kind of aping male behavior, they're going to think one of two things. They're 1.00

00:13:37.080 going to think either she's hot. So I'll play along or two, this is sad. And I wish she would stop

00:13:46.600 because the truth is again, no matter what our progressive enlightened culture says, the truth is

00:13:53.800 men don't want women to act like men. Men want women to act like women. They may pretend they may say,

00:14:05.440 oh no, they may pretend to be completely egalitarian and they don't see any difference between the

00:14:11.540 genders. And they think it's just great when a woman behaves in this kind of masculine manly way. 0.99

00:14:19.360 They may pretend that they think it's cool and they think it's just awesome, but they don't.

00:14:26.180 Even right now in the comments, there may be a guy who says, who pretends and says, oh no, I,

00:14:31.840 you know, I've got a group of friends who are girls and I don't see them any differently.

00:14:35.440 Then I see the guys and I'm exactly the same with them as I am with the guys. No difference.

00:14:39.860 He may claim that, but if it were just the two of us sitting in the car, having a man-to-man

00:14:44.660 conversation, he would be agreeing with everything I'm saying. 100%. Men like it when women act like 1.00

00:14:51.960 women. That's what they want out of a woman. They don't want a woman who tries to act like a man 1.00

00:14:56.480 because there are men for that. If they wanted to talk to a man, be around a man, well, there are

00:15:01.200 plenty of men in the world, but they rely on women to be women. Just like I assume women rely on men 1.00

00:15:07.480 to be men. We have this idea nowadays that men and women are exactly the same. And so that's where we

00:15:13.860 get this co-ed thing where everything has to be co-ed. Everything can be, we think that everything

00:15:17.720 can be co-ed without losing anything in translation because we have this idea that men and women are

00:15:22.760 exactly the same. And of course they are not. And from there, we get this idea that men and women

00:15:27.160 can be friends with each other in exactly the same way. They can be friends with members of the

00:15:33.520 same sex in exactly the same way that they're friends with members of the opposite sex, which 0.85

00:15:38.300 also is not true. This is just something. I think for my generation, a lot of us, we got this idea

00:15:44.740 from TV because I know growing up in the 90s, a lot of the shows you watched on Nickelodeon or

00:15:50.360 whatever else, this was a big thing they were pushing. And I feel like half of these shows,

00:15:55.500 the main character would be like a preteen or teenage girl and her best friend in life is a

00:16:02.320 boy. They're just partners in crime. There's no attraction there. They're just partners in crime

00:16:07.800 coming of age together, right? Girl and boy. What was that show? I don't remember that. What was the

00:16:14.240 show on in the 90s that everyone watched where it was a girl and her best friend was a boy and he

00:16:19.620 would climb on a ladder. He would, he would climb through her window to come visit her and the

00:16:25.240 parents were totally cool. Oh, Clarissa explains it all. Was the show. Now we're going to get into

00:16:29.300 a whole 90s conversation, but that was the show that was one of the shows on Nickelodeon in the

00:16:33.040 90s. And the main character was this teenage girl and her best friend was a boy and they were just

00:16:38.520 hanging out. And so we got into our head that this is how it works in real life, but it's,

00:16:43.700 it's not really how it works. Guaranteed again, guaranteed. You got a teenage boy and he's claiming

00:16:49.520 that his best friend is a girl. He's attracted to her 10 times out of 10, 100% guaranteed.

00:16:56.320 Now, when, when you get married, then your spouse really does become your best friend,

00:17:02.080 your partner for life. And you have the closest, most intimate bond, obviously, hopefully with,

00:17:07.300 with your spouse. But before you're married and you're single, generally your closest bonds are

00:17:13.960 going to be with members of, of the same sex. Your best friend, if you're a girl, is going to be a

00:17:19.340 girl. If it's a guy, it's going to be a guy. That's natural. That's just the way it goes. Because again,

00:17:24.380 you just have a different connection with those people because you understand them because they're

00:17:29.100 just like you. And that's why it's so important to allow girls and boys to have their own spaces.

00:17:33.900 Girls too. I'm not, I don't mean to leave them out. It's just that number one, I'm not a girl. So

00:17:38.540 I can't speak to that as much. Number two, I think girls are already allowed to have their own spaces 1.00

00:17:43.900 with one big exception. Of course, we know that girls are not allowed to have their own locker

00:17:47.940 rooms and bathrooms anymore, which is insane and dangerous. But even there, you notice that the price

00:17:53.580 of entry for a boy, if he wants to get into the girl spaces, is he has to pretend that he is a girl.

00:17:59.560 Whereas for the boys, no girls can come in and there's no charade. They don't have to 0.98

00:18:03.640 pretend they're a boy. It's just the boys are not allowed to have that. So girls need to have 1.00

00:18:08.920 their own spaces too. Fortunately, I think they are allowed for the most part to have their own

00:18:13.100 spaces. And also boys generally don't have the desire or the urge to intrude into female spaces.

00:18:22.580 If there are a bunch of girls sitting around having a conversation or doing something, 1.00

00:18:26.520 most guys aren't going to say to themselves, oh, I got to go be a part of that.

00:18:30.180 What they're more likely to say is, oh, okay, all the girls are contained over here. 1.00

00:18:33.460 Let's go, let's go over here and do something else. So you don't find in guys this desire to

00:18:40.080 be seen as one of the girls. You're not often going to find a guy bragging that I'm just one

00:18:45.540 of the girls just like him. Even in our enlightened age, if a guy went around saying that he would be

00:18:51.480 ridiculed rightly so by his male friends, maybe that'll change as we become even more enlightened.

00:18:57.900 But as of right now, that's how it goes because it's natural. So let's all just give each other

00:19:04.600 some space, right? I think we, I think we could all use it is my point. All right. That's it for me.

00:19:09.660 Thanks for listening. Godspeed, everybody.

The Matt Walsh Show - May 03, 2018

Ep. 22 - Boys Should Not Be Forced To Include Girls In Everything

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