The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 246 - Heroic Uber Driver Refuses To Bring A Woman To Her Abortion Appointment

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, an Uber driver is fired for refusing to take a woman to get an

00:00:04.600 abortion. I believe the driver is heroic, but should the driver have been fired? And does the

00:00:09.800 woman have a legal case against the driver? She's getting legal representation. She's going to try

00:00:13.840 to sue him. Does she have a case? We'll talk about it. Also, Charlize Theron says that her three-year-old

00:00:18.880 son discovered that he was a girl. We'll talk about that. And do I lack sympathy for college

00:00:25.540 graduates because I don't want their loans to be forgiven by stealing money from other people

00:00:30.520 to pay off their debts? Is that lacking sympathy on my part? We'll discuss that as well today on

00:00:37.120 the Matt Walsh Show. Well, this is sad, guys. This is really pathetic. I have to say my wife and kids

00:00:48.340 are out of town for the week. I've been here at the house by myself since Monday morning because

00:00:55.200 my wife wanted to go visit her sister and I have to work. Plus, I'm going to Texas tomorrow for a

00:01:00.480 speech. So that's how I ended up here alone. And so I've got the whole house to myself. I've got the

00:01:06.600 run of the house, no wife, no kids. It's the first time since I've been married that this has been the

00:01:11.900 case. I mean, I travel a lot, so I'm on my own when I travel most of the time. But as far as being

00:01:15.820 home alone, having the run of the house, no kids, no wife, first time. And I thought, well, I'm going to

00:01:21.500 really take advantage of that. I'm going to do something. I'm going to, I don't know. I just, I feel

00:01:26.100 like I should do something with this freedom. But the only thing I could, the only ways that I could

00:01:31.800 find to take advantage of it have been to eat a lot of takeout food and leave wet towels on the

00:01:37.400 bathroom floor. And that's, that's it. That's what my celebration of independence has consisted of. And

00:01:44.380 this is adulthood, I guess. This is, this is, this is all it is. What else is, you know, what else am I

00:01:51.040 really going to do, I guess? And then, well, okay. I did do one other thing. I sat on, I sat on our

00:01:56.120 white couch last night and ate pizza. So I did do that. And I could never get away with that under

00:02:02.560 normal circumstances. So I guess I did have that one adventure that I will remember and cherish

00:02:09.620 always. All right. Um, I want to start with, uh, with, with this story. Um, it was in the daily

00:02:18.040 wire trending now, uh, getting a lot of attention. Very, very interesting story. There's, there's a

00:02:23.300 kind of a lot going on here. Um, so let me read now from Amanda's report in the daily wire. It says

00:02:29.940 a 20 year old college student in upstate New York reported an Uber driver for refusing to take her to

00:02:36.480 get an abortion. According to the woman's account, which was reported on, uh, reported by Yahoo,

00:02:42.020 the ride sharing company canned the pro-lifer, but now the woman is looking to take legal action

00:02:48.300 against the driver. She wrote in a, on Reddit, um, I'm in college in upstate New York. I don't have a

00:02:54.640 car on campus because it's expensive. I'm 20 years old. I found out I was pregnant and subsequently

00:02:58.620 decided that I wanted an abortion because I'm in no position to take care of the child. Um, and she

00:03:05.200 went on to talk about, she found a clinic about an hour from the university. And then she had to

00:03:09.680 call, call an Uber to pick her up. The student then going back to the article says the student

00:03:14.600 then recounted her interaction with the Uber driver who attempted to dissuade the woman from choosing

00:03:18.880 abortion before telling her he could not drive her to the clinic. Um, she says, quote, my appointment

00:03:25.140 was at 11 30 AM. So at nine 58 AM, my Uber arrived and he immediately seemed uncomfortable. After about

00:03:31.520 five minutes in the car, he asked, are we going to a planned parenthood? I said, no, because we

00:03:35.980 weren't, but it set off alarm bar alarm bells that he would even ask that. She continues the destination

00:03:41.900 I put in was just the name of the doctor and the address of the clinic. There was nothing that would

00:03:46.420 suggest it was an abortion clinic. After a few more minutes, he asked, are we going to an abortion

00:03:51.120 clinic? I was shocked. She said, I had no idea what to say. So I just remained quiet. He then said,

00:03:57.940 I know it's none of my business, but, and proceeded to mention something about his wife being pregnant,

00:04:01.940 how awful the procedure was, uh, the abortion procedure, uh, said that there's so much they don't

00:04:07.520 tell you. And then said, uh, you're going to regret this decision for the rest of your life.

00:04:11.380 And she said that I was making a mistake. Um, and then he, uh, about halfway to the clinic,

00:04:17.860 he pulled over with no warning. He said, I'm sorry, but I can't take you the rest of the way.

00:04:22.880 I can take you back to the city, but you won't be able to find another Uber out here. Um, so then

00:04:29.600 the woman said, she finally got ahold of her boyfriend who advised her to call the clinic and

00:04:33.820 inform them that she'd be late. Talked to his boyfriend some more. Um, he came, picked her up.

00:04:42.280 He managed to calm her down. And, uh, then she eventually did get to the clinic and the abortion

00:04:49.360 happened. Um, but the driver driver was fired. And now she's looking at pursuing further legal action

00:04:56.360 against the driver, um, saying that, you know, she thinks she might have a case. She's reached out

00:05:01.800 to a law firm. Okay. All right. So a few points here. Number one, let's just pause for a moment.

00:05:09.640 And this is sort of a side issue, but I couldn't help but notice, um, the cowardice

00:05:18.640 of the boyfriend in this situation, his girlfriend is going off presumably to kill the child.

00:05:25.280 I mean, we know he's just killing child presumably to kill his child, presumably, um, apparently with

00:05:32.080 his blessing, but originally he's not taking her. He's, he's having an Uber come and drive her an hour

00:05:39.000 to this clinic for the procedure to be performed. Um, it says that she's, you know, she was finally

00:05:45.460 able to get ahold of him. And, uh, his advice is, Oh, you know, let them know you'll, you'll be late.

00:05:50.860 And then finally, when she's stranded on the side of the road, he decides to come and pick her up

00:05:55.400 and take her the rest of the way. So it would appear that the boyfriend is a deadbeat loser.

00:06:01.740 Um, and that's the thing about abortion that feminists ignore because they have to ignore it,

00:06:09.060 or they feel like they have to, is that abortion is great for deadbeat losers like this boyfriend.

00:06:15.560 Um, this idea that, you know, men are opposed to abortion or that the pro-life movement is a man's

00:06:23.480 movement. Um, you know, uh, it's, it's like, it's, like it's, it's only men who, who are opposed to

00:06:30.240 abortion. The pro-life movement is just about, is just men, um, because it's some sort of sexist

00:06:35.340 conspiracy. Well, that is just obviously absurd. Uh, because the fact is lots of men like this

00:06:42.560 woman's boyfriend love abortion and they hate pro-lifers because abortion enables them to use

00:06:49.980 women for sexual pleasure with, with the assurance that the consequences of their rendezvous will be

00:06:55.860 disposed of and disposed of, we should note on the woman's dime most of the time on her conscience.

00:07:01.920 Um, and she will be the one to suffer most of the physical and emotional pain from it. Now men can

00:07:09.900 also, and often do suffer incredible emotional pain from abortion. Um, if they are willing to confront

00:07:17.780 what it is that's happening, but oftentimes men, at least men who are, who go along with this and

00:07:24.320 encourage their, their girlfriends and, uh, to get abortions, they're not confronting it and they're

00:07:31.540 not forced to because they don't even have to go to the clinic. They could just sit back and say,

00:07:35.420 oh yeah, you know, just get an abortion. Take care, take care of it. Right. Um, so for scummy men,

00:07:41.360 for loser men, for selfish men, abortion is great. They absolutely love it. Men, um, men gain nothing

00:07:50.800 from opposing abortion. You know, I've opposed abortion all my life. I have not benefited practically

00:07:57.140 from this position. How could I, nobody on this side does man or a woman. We take this position

00:08:04.560 purely for ethical reasons. That's the only reason we take it. There's nothing else we stand to gain.

00:08:10.480 This whole idea about, you know, men want to control women's bodies and so forth. That also

00:08:15.020 is obviously ridiculous. And I don't deny that some men in the world do want to control women's

00:08:21.500 bodies. You can look at the middle East, for instance, women have to walk around in body bags,

00:08:25.460 essentially. Um, and often, you know, they can't vote. They can't drive. They don't have any, um,

00:08:32.360 any self determination whatsoever. So, okay. Yes. Now there is an example, uh, where you've got

00:08:38.780 Sharia law, you've got a patriarchal society where men have claimed the right and the power,

00:08:43.880 the authority to control women's bodies. That really does happen. And it's happening in those kinds

00:08:49.100 of societies. But a man who says, look, women can wear what they want. They can say what they want.

00:08:53.940 They can live how they want. They can do what they want within the law. Uh, women can have all

00:08:58.100 the same opportunities as men. Women are legally equal, legally equal to men in, in every way. Um,

00:09:05.820 a man who says that is not a man who is looking to control women's bodies.

00:09:10.640 And if that man happens to be pro-life, that is only because he believes that the body in question

00:09:17.060 here, the body under dispute is not the woman's body, but the child's body. And that is a separate

00:09:23.460 body. And as for that body, he does not think that it should be destroyed. Um, you can disagree.

00:09:30.260 Now you're wrong and foolish to disagree, but you can, but to call that controlling women's bodies

00:09:36.020 is idiotic. And to accuse that man of wanting to control women's bodies is, is idiotic. Um,

00:09:42.380 if he wanted to control women, he'd be a supporter of Sharia law. And if you wanted to exploit women

00:09:48.120 and use them, he'd be pro-abortion, but being, um, not a supporter of Sharia law yet pro-life.

00:09:54.980 Well, that is just, that is a, that is simply an ethical position that has nothing to do with

00:10:00.860 controlling anyone. Um, all right. So that's kind of a side issue that I ranted about, but, uh,

00:10:10.060 I think it's, I think it's an important point when you see the role of the man in these kinds of

00:10:15.080 stories on this particular topic, though, I think there are a few things, a few other things that

00:10:19.800 jump out. Um, first, the driver, the Uber driver acted heroically. Uh, he found himself in a moral

00:10:26.520 quandary that, that he probably never anticipated he would be in. Uh, so he, he, he somehow knew,

00:10:32.220 and it's not clear from the story. How did he know that she was going to an abortion clinic? He

00:10:36.800 somehow knew it. Maybe, maybe it came up on the GPS. He recognized the name, whatever. Um,

00:10:41.640 and he realized where he was going and what he was unwittingly taking part in. And so he had two

00:10:47.940 choices at that point. He could just go along with it. He could say nothing. He could protect his

00:10:51.760 livelihood and his reputation and his convenience and, and do the convenient, easy thing. Take her,

00:10:57.520 take the money, be done with it. Or he could refuse to take part. He could, he could try to talk to the

00:11:01.700 woman. He could try to reason with her. Um, and ultimately if that fails, he could refuse to go

00:11:06.380 along with it and say, I can't take you there. Now, I think many, many, many people, even pro-life

00:11:11.660 people would probably choose the first option, the path of least resistance. Uh, and they would say,

00:11:17.620 you know, it's got, it's got nothing to do with me. It's not my fault. I'm just going to take her.

00:11:21.940 It's not worth the trouble. He chose the second route. And that is heroism. That is real heroism.

00:11:27.000 And he deserves credit for that. Um, especially in a culture where we, there's, there's so little

00:11:34.820 moral heroism yet heroism is so often claimed. You know, there's a, there's a vast disparity between

00:11:44.320 the, the, the number of times that the word hero is used to describe something and the number of

00:11:53.660 times that we actually see real heroics. So I just saw a story about a woman. Um, maybe you saw this

00:12:00.420 online, a woman who threw a bag of puppies into a dumpster, um, in California and, uh, she's since

00:12:11.680 been arrested and for good reason. Um, but she throws the bag of puppies in a homeless guy comes

00:12:18.260 by and he's, you know, he's looking through the dumpster for whatever he can salvage. He happens

00:12:22.120 to find the puppies and he, he pulls them out. Um, and he finds someone and, um, and the, the puppies

00:12:30.700 are, are saved. Now the homeless guy's being called a hero. That's what the media is calling him a hero.

00:12:37.420 Well, I'm glad he pulled the puppies out. Don't get me wrong. Uh, it's, it's a good thing that he did.

00:12:42.900 I'm not certainly not criticizing him obviously, but that's not heroic. It's a good thing to do,

00:12:48.580 but it's not heroic. Any decent human being would do the same, right? It's, it's the instinctive

00:12:55.440 response. I mean, almost anyone, if you saw a bag of puppies in a dumpster, you would take the bag

00:13:01.400 out to not take it out would be unbelievably evil. You would be just as evil as the woman who,

00:13:07.220 who threw the bag in. So what we're saying about this homeless man is what we're saying is he's not

00:13:12.400 unbelievably evil, which is great, but just because you're not unbelievably evil doesn't make you a

00:13:17.460 hero and just reaching in and grabbing the bag and say, well, okay. And bringing it. So it's,

00:13:22.480 it's not heroic. Um, and I do think it's an important point. Again, I'm not, obviously it's

00:13:27.180 not a criticism. It's just, let's, let's calm down from it and stop calling everything heroic

00:13:31.080 because when you do that, you cheapen heroism. Heroism is when you risk something. It's when

00:13:36.520 there are two options and one is the easier, less risky, more advantageous route for you,

00:13:42.340 but you reject that path and take the riskier, less advantageous, harder path because it's the

00:13:47.940 ethically superior path. Now that is what heroism is. That's what a hero does. And I want to be clear

00:13:54.520 about that. Now does, uh, so that's her own. Does Uber have the right to fire this guy? Well,

00:14:03.040 they do. Absolutely. I wish they didn't. I don't think they should have, but it's their company.

00:14:09.940 They have the right to do that. They don't have to keep him employed. If they don't agree with his

00:14:13.700 decision, uh, they, they can decide to fire him. They can hire and fire whoever they want. I believe

00:14:19.600 that I believe in, in the rights of employers to make these kinds of decisions. You know, absolutely.

00:14:27.760 And other drivers who work for Uber will just have to decide if they want to remain affiliated with the

00:14:33.060 company. And we, as potential passengers, we'll have to decide if we want to, um, give our money to

00:14:39.400 the company. That's, that's a decision we'll have to make, but Uber has that right. That's a separate

00:14:45.500 question though, from does the woman have a case against the driver? Can she sue him? Um, and I would

00:14:53.560 say no, well, well, she could file a lawsuit, but does she have a case? No, because what would her case

00:14:59.260 be? The fact is she's sitting in this man's car. He owns the car. He might drive for Uber, but that

00:15:06.700 doesn't make him her slave. And if he doesn't want to take her to a certain place, he has the right,

00:15:12.320 the legal right and the moral right as well to say no, to make that decision. It would be, it'd be a

00:15:16.880 similar thing to if, um, and I know there are Uber drivers and cab drivers in this situation where

00:15:22.600 you've got someone who gets in your car is plastered drunk and says, Hey, take me to the bar,

00:15:28.640 take me to the liquor store. And so you not only have the right, but I would say probably moral

00:15:33.580 obligation in that case to say, no, I'm not going to take you because it's not right. You're not in

00:15:38.460 a position to go drink right now. Um, so it's the same sort of situation. This, this guy was not under

00:15:46.280 any legal obligation to go take her, to kill her child. Um, and it's as simple as that.

00:15:54.020 Now, of course, yeah. What does it tell you about this woman that, um,

00:15:59.060 she not only did what she did to her child, but now, uh, she's not satisfied with getting this guy

00:16:06.200 fired. Now she wants to sue him as well. And what does it really tell you? Well, I'll tell you what,

00:16:13.880 I'll tell you what it tells you. It tells us that, um, among other things, this is a woman with a,

00:16:20.800 with a seared conscience. Uh, this is a woman with a guilty conscience. And I think sometimes

00:16:27.920 people on the pro-life side can miss that. When you see women who are vindictive

00:16:37.480 in their support for abortion and who look to punish anyone who opposes it. Um, and a woman like

00:16:45.200 this, who she already got his, got him fired, take it, took his livelihood away. You'd think that'd be

00:16:49.720 enough. Now she wants to go further. Well, that's just this. She is someone who's trying to convince

00:16:56.100 herself that she's the victim, um, and that she's in the right and she's the good guy. She's trying to

00:17:02.500 convince herself. And so many of the arguments for abortion that you hear, um, especially from radical

00:17:10.640 feminists and from, as I said, the most vindictive types, when you hear the arguments, one of the

00:17:17.640 reasons why the arguments they present are so bad and unconvincing and illogical and irrational

00:17:23.580 is that they're not really presenting the argument to you. They're not really talking to you. They're

00:17:29.240 talking to themselves, to themselves. They're, they are, they're trying to convince themselves

00:17:34.380 of what they're saying. It's not about convincing you, it's about convincing themselves because at some

00:17:41.660 level, they know that this is wrong. And any woman who's gotten an abortion at some level knows that

00:17:50.340 what she did was wrong. And there are many women who at every level know that it's wrong and regret

00:17:55.740 it and, and, and unfortunately live with, with guilt and, um, and, uh, you know, emotional hardship

00:18:03.060 that they will struggle with probably their whole lives. And, and which of course the, the clinics and

00:18:07.240 in Planned Parenthood will just leave them with, because, uh, Planned Parenthood isn't going to

00:18:11.740 offer any post-abortive counseling to women who are struggling with this because Planned Parenthood

00:18:16.660 would deny that, that, that that's even, that that even happens. Um, so, but that's just,

00:18:22.920 that's an important point here about this. This will be an interesting case to continue to follow.

00:18:28.560 Um, all right, let's, uh, so I wanted to, I wanted to mention this as well. Um, you know,

00:18:35.380 Charlize Theron, Theron, however you pronounce her last name. I never have been quite sure,

00:18:41.120 to be honest. She recently complained that she is quote, shockingly single at the age of 43.

00:18:48.680 And, uh, I guess there were some people who were confused by that. Well, how could, how could this

00:18:53.340 woman, you know, very attractive woman, Hollywood celebrity, rich, uh, how could she be single?

00:18:59.980 How, how has she not found a man by now? Well, I think now we know why, because in another interview

00:19:06.240 that was published, uh, last week, late last week, she quote confirmed that her seven-year-old son

00:19:14.300 is actually a girl. Um, the poor young boy who she now parades around in a dress announced his gender

00:19:24.420 identity at the age of three. Um, according to Charlize Theron, um, announced his gender identity.

00:19:32.420 And this is, uh, this is the quote from Theron. She says, yes, I thought she was a boy too, until

00:19:39.140 she looked at me when she was three years old and said, I am not a boy. And that's how at the age of

00:19:47.060 three, at the age of three, that's how she discovered that, uh, her son is really a girl.

00:19:55.180 Now I, uh, I have a son who is almost three and I have twins who passed that threshold a couple of

00:20:02.360 years ago. Um, I can say from experience that a child at the age of three knows nothing about the

00:20:10.360 world, uh, just knows absolutely nothing. He cannot speak in complex sentences. He thinks cartoons are

00:20:17.840 real. Okay. When a three-year-old watches TV, he thinks that the cartoons are real creatures who are

00:20:24.700 literally inside the TV talking to him. Okay. That's what he thinks. Um, he, he, he doesn't know the

00:20:32.360 difference between truth and fiction. Literally doesn't know the difference. As in, if you were to say

00:20:37.940 to a three-year-old or even a four-year-old, um, unicorns aren't real, well, you're not,

00:20:44.660 you're not spoiling anything because they don't even, they don't understand what that means. They

00:20:48.160 don't know what not real means. That doesn't mean anything to them, that sentence. So they don't

00:20:52.780 understand the difference between truth and fiction. Um, they, you know, a three-year-old believes

00:20:57.960 in Santa and unicorns and monsters under his bed. He thinks that his toys come to life when he leaves

00:21:02.560 the room. Um, he is slightly more intelligent than a goat basically, and slightly less

00:21:07.700 intelligent than a dolphin. No offense to three-year-olds. I, I, you know, um, uh, I think,

00:21:13.640 I think three-year-olds are awesome too, by the way. I think it's a great age. It's one of my favorite,

00:21:18.160 maybe, maybe my, my, my favorite age for a little kid. Um, but the point is that these are, these are

00:21:24.040 very, uh, these are not very intellectually developed or complex beings yet at that stage. Um, these are

00:21:35.600 people who believe literally anything they're told on any subject. Um, when my twins were that age,

00:21:42.960 for instance, and you know, I, I admit that I like to do this with my kids. I'll just tell them

00:21:48.020 the craziest stories I can think of. And, uh, so I, I told my, I told my kids when they were three,

00:21:55.440 my twins, that I, I used to live on the moon when I was a kid and I had a pet flying shark named Rocky

00:22:00.860 and I flew down here from the moon on my shark. Okay. And I told them that they were so thrilled

00:22:06.860 by that biographical detail about my life that I didn't have the heart to admit I was lying

00:22:10.500 and they might still actually believe it. For all I know, they might be telling their friends that

00:22:14.900 their, that their daddy used to live on the moon, riding up a flying shark. Um, so what I'm trying to

00:22:20.980 stress here is just that three-year-old children are very, very young and they are very, very limited

00:22:25.980 in their, in their ability to understand anything. And one subject that they certainly cannot grasp

00:22:32.940 is biology. So the next time you hear a three-year-old boy claim to be a girl, which is an

00:22:40.000 extraordinarily common phenomenon. Okay. It's, it's, it's a very common for, for young boys to say stuff

00:22:46.640 like that. It's only recently that the adults have become so stupid and deluded that they, they hear

00:22:54.940 that. And they think, Oh my gosh, this is so significant. This is a, he just claimed to be a

00:22:59.020 girl for, for, for thousands of years. Three-year-olds would say stuff like that. And the parents would

00:23:04.300 go, okay, honey. All right. Pat them on the head, send them on their way. Um, but if you really are

00:23:10.760 concerned or if you're confused, well, here's something. The next time you hear a three-year-old

00:23:15.660 child, three-year-old boy claimed to be a girl, here's the follow-up question to ask this, this child say,

00:23:21.820 okay, what's a girl? Now, if that statement means anything coming from his mouth, then he should be

00:23:32.160 able to answer that question and tell you what he thinks a girl is, but he won't be able to answer

00:23:37.040 that question because the word girl to him means nothing. It's, it is a sound that people make.

00:23:43.560 When he says, I'm a girl, he may as well be saying, I'm a who's a what's it, uh, or I'm an apple or,

00:23:49.020 you know, I'm a, I'm a, you know, I'm a, I'm a couch. I mean, it's just, it's just, it's a,

00:23:53.340 these are just words. They don't mean anything to him at the absolute most, at the absolute most.

00:24:00.560 If this is a, a child who is very developed in his thinking and is much smarter than your average

00:24:06.700 three-year-old, then maybe when he says that, what he might mean is that he is interested in the

00:24:13.040 things that his little toddler brain associates with girls like bright colors, princesses, fairies,

00:24:19.780 dolls, et cetera. Um, it probably doesn't even mean that because most three-year-olds can't draw

00:24:26.120 those associations like that. But at most, at most, that's what it means. At most, you could

00:24:31.580 translate, I'm a girl to, I think Tinkerbell is cool. And considering he thinks that Tinkerbell is

00:24:40.240 real, I can hardly blame him for thinking that. I mean, I think it'd be cool too, if Tinkerbell was

00:24:44.740 real. Um, so, you know, of course this whole conversation is unnecessary in general, because

00:24:52.840 our sex is not something that we can reject or change at any age. Uh, so it doesn't, three-year-olds

00:24:58.960 can't decide their gender. Neither can 33-year-olds. Nobody can. It's just, it's scientifically impossible.

00:25:04.200 But even if I hit my head and I woke up believing that biology really is adjustable and you can

00:25:11.980 change it, um, I would need to suffer several more traumatic brain injuries before I would get to the

00:25:18.260 point where I would think that toddlers could be entrusted to make those adjustments. Even a person

00:25:24.160 confused enough to believe in the whole concept of transgenderism should still be sane enough to

00:25:30.540 understand that a human being who's only three or four years old cannot possibly be entrusted with

00:25:36.360 that decision. Um, that's, that's what I want to stress is the levels of crazy that we're dealing

00:25:44.460 with here, where you've got the whole idea that you can change your sex. That's crazy enough. And now, but, but

00:25:53.420 even if I were to accept that premise, which of course I do not even a little bit accept it,

00:25:59.860 but even if I did, I, I would still, there's no way that I would think that a three-year-old could be,

00:26:06.300 could, could do that. Um, there are a lot of actual decisions that we can make with our lives as adults,

00:26:13.920 but that we don't let children make. In fact, three-year-olds, we don't really let three-year-olds make

00:26:21.420 any decisions. Really. Every, every decision they make is in a very controlled environment

00:26:27.940 and we exercise the right to override it. And we do override almost all of their independent decisions.

00:26:35.400 Uh, I mean, I've, if you've got a three-year-old, especially a three-year-old boy, you're sitting

00:26:38.780 there all day. You're trying to stop them from killing themselves. Honestly, I don't know how any

00:26:43.520 three-year-old boy survives past, past three, um, considering how often you have to step in and

00:26:49.220 avert disaster for them. So, I mean, have you ever, uh, have you ever been, you know,

00:26:56.420 you go to a Cold Stone or some, you know, some, one of these ice cream places and have you ever

00:27:01.000 been stuck in line behind a mother and a, and a child, a young child where the mother, for whatever

00:27:08.840 reason is letting the child decide all the detail, what kind of ice cream he wants and what he wants

00:27:15.020 on the ice cream? Well, you're going to be, you're going to be sitting there for 72 hours because

00:27:19.540 the child cannot make even that decision. If you put 32 flavors in front of a child and say,

00:27:24.800 which flavor do you want? And here are 10 toppings, which toppings he, he, he cannot decide. He's,

00:27:29.880 he really can't. So you have to just make that now experienced parents. No, I'm not going to give

00:27:35.520 you a choice. At most, I'll give you, you know, ice cream or vanilla. Uh, and you've got 30 seconds,

00:27:39.780 you've got 10 seconds to decide, but probably I'll just decide for you. And whatever I decide,

00:27:43.880 you'll like, you don't need to decide for yourself. It's ice cream. You'll enjoy it.

00:27:46.960 Um, so kids at that age can't make any decisions. The idea that they could make a decision like this

00:27:52.800 is, um, is insane. Now I call it insane, but there's a question here. Charlize Theron and,

00:28:02.160 and people like her, are they really that insane or are they purposefully instilling gender confusion

00:28:10.780 into their perfectly healthy and normal children simply to be fashionable? Um, so is this wickedness

00:28:20.420 on the part of the parents or mental illness? And again, I'm talking about the parents. Now

00:28:24.920 a three-year-old child is neither wicked nor mentally ill. Just, it's just, that's just,

00:28:29.900 that's a normal kid. But it seems to me to, as a parent, to allow your three-year-old to choose

00:28:35.800 his gender, you would have to be mentally ill or evil. Um, I, I don't see any room in between. I

00:28:43.940 don't see a third option here. And that's really the only question on this matter. Okay. I did want

00:28:52.120 to briefly revisit, um, the topic of student loan forgiveness. And I guess this counts as a mailbag

00:28:57.760 thing because I'm going to respond to some of the feedback. Um, mattwalshow at gmail.com.

00:29:02.880 Mattwalshow at gmail.com is the email address. Um, so for example, this is along the lines of a lot

00:29:09.920 of other email I received that says, hello, Matt, I generally agree with your takes, but I think

00:29:13.960 you're way off base on the student loan issue. If you don't have any loan debt, then you don't

00:29:19.200 understand the crushing effect it has. People's lives are being destroyed. Our country would be

00:29:23.680 greatly benefited by a plan to get rid of this burden. It seems you have no empathy for people

00:29:28.460 struggling and that's disappointing. You usually strike me as a humble and compassionate person,

00:29:32.380 despite how you're portrayed. But on this issue yesterday and other times when you talk about it,

00:29:37.440 you come across like a huge jerk, very disappointing, at least other, um, at least offer

00:29:42.120 solutions instead of simply mocking people who are struggling. All right. First of all, I did offer

00:29:47.440 a solution. As I explained yesterday, uh, this crisis could be solved rather easily and without any

00:29:53.400 sweeping governmental programs. If we took a very simple step, there's a very simple step we could

00:29:58.080 take that would negate this problem in the longterm. And all that needs to happen. I will reiterate

00:30:03.140 is this. We have to stop shipping every 18 year old off to a four-year college right out of high school.

00:30:09.660 That's my whole point. And as long as we are determined to continue along this suicidal path,

00:30:16.080 nothing is going to change. But if we're interested in restoring a little bit of sanity to the

00:30:20.960 proceedings, we don't ultimately need free college or loan forgiveness or any other form of welfare,

00:30:26.420 um, because this would solve the problem again, long-term. Now this, you're still going to have

00:30:33.120 to pay your own loans. That's something you're going to have to do. But 20, 30 years from now,

00:30:38.900 we could make it so that this problem doesn't exist anymore. Just by making this one simple

00:30:44.860 societal change, it's a change that there is no downside to it. Uh, there's no downside and

00:30:52.780 there's a ton of upside to a kid out of high school, getting a job for a few years, saving some

00:30:58.180 money, gaining experience, gaining maturity, and figuring out what he actually wants to do with

00:31:03.200 his life before deciding on his educational plan. I just, I cannot think of any rational argument

00:31:10.060 against this course of action. I can think of trillions of arguments against the course of

00:31:17.340 action that we commonly take of shipping every kid, um, off to college, right from high school.

00:31:23.760 If we turned off that conveyor belt, this conveyor belt that unthinkingly dumps every high school

00:31:28.900 graduate into a four-year institution, ultimately we would end up with fewer people going to college

00:31:34.820 because a lot of people in the interim would discover vocations that don't require a college degree.

00:31:38.960 And the ones who do attend will be more financially secure. They'll have more money.

00:31:44.500 They'll have more maturity. Um, and they'll have, they'll have an idea, uh, more of an idea probably

00:31:50.500 as to what they actually want to do with their life so they can get a more targeted education

00:31:55.100 and they can, and they can enter into a major that, that actually will be useful to them.

00:31:59.900 Um, so that's my solution. And I think it's a good solution.

00:32:03.560 If by solution, you mean a, a switch that we could just flip and all of this goes away.

00:32:10.400 Well, no, I don't have that. And I don't think there is a magical switch as for lacking sympathy.

00:32:16.340 That's not true. I have a ton of sympathy for people who are in debt. I have sympathy for people

00:32:20.420 who are underwater with their mortgage or their credit card debt or medical bills or student loans

00:32:24.860 or, or any kind of debt. I mean, if you're in debt to the, to the mafia, I have, I have a lot of

00:32:30.220 sympathy for you. Um, whether it was recklessness or happenstance or, you know, personal tragedy or,

00:32:37.360 or whatever it is that put you in that position, I have sympathy. I have compassion. Um, so

00:32:44.680 I'll, I'll make that clear if I hadn't already made it clear, but the moment that you demand

00:32:54.300 that the government conscript your fellow citizens to pay your debt for you, the moment you try to,

00:33:02.320 by using the mechanism of the state, appropriate money from other people, from your fellow human

00:33:07.620 to alleviate your own suffering. That's the moment that I lose all sympathy because it's the moment

00:33:13.880 that you become a thief. And, um, that's how I, that's how I see this. If you are asking now,

00:33:21.880 you might not be the one going, you might not be putting on a ski mask and go in and robbing a

00:33:25.380 liquor store or something, but you, I mean, in some ways this is worse because it's less honest,

00:33:30.080 at least, at least a thief, uh, you know, a thief in a ski mask knows what he's doing and admits it.

00:33:36.360 But when you go to the government and say, you know what, I don't want to get my hands dirty,

00:33:40.020 but I, what I want you to do is I want you to go and take money from those people over there and

00:33:47.120 give it to me. Um, I, I just see that as theft. I do. And, um, so no, I don't have any sympathy for

00:33:57.660 that. That's the difference. All the sympathy, sympathy in the world for people who are, who are

00:34:04.100 struggling when you try to alleviate your own struggles and your own suffering by causing it

00:34:10.960 among other people. Well, sorry. I mean, the sympathy meter just went from a hundred down to

00:34:16.920 zero as quickly as that. That's, that's how I look at it. Um, this is from Micah says, Hey, Mr.

00:34:23.080 Walsh, aren't bees communists? Well, I suppose they are in a way, uh, no private property, everything

00:34:29.520 owned by the state, which would be the queen bee. So, well, actually, I guess it's more of a, it's

00:34:34.020 more of a serfdom. Uh, it's kind of like a feudal type of situation. Really the greater concern for

00:34:40.620 me is that bees are radical feminists. Um, only the women work or contribute. The men are used for,

00:34:47.020 for menial tasks around the hive and for mating mostly. And, um, and then in wintertime they're

00:34:54.060 evicted into the snow or murdered by the hive, uh, to save resources. So it's a very troubling

00:34:59.880 anti-male attitude in the bee community. And it's something that I'll be working on with my own

00:35:04.660 hive. I, in fact, I installed my hive last night. Um, and I did give them a quick lecture on gender

00:35:11.260 equality. Uh, it's just a quick, about 45 minutes and I'll, I'll be going back later tonight to kind

00:35:17.120 of get around to, and I plan to worry. I'll go every, you know, two or three times a week. Um,

00:35:21.160 and, uh, I'll have different time, different subjects as well. But, um, uh, I just, I think

00:35:27.620 it's very important to have well-educated bees now, actually speaking of which, and this is true. I,

00:35:32.800 I went to pick up my bees yesterday. Um, and I was picking them up from an apiary, which is

00:35:38.420 basically a bee farm. And I get there as my first, I've never picked up bees before. So I don't really

00:35:43.700 know what the process is. And it's a, I pull up and it's this older woman and her, and her husband

00:35:47.800 and she goes, uh, all right, well, we'll put on your bee suit. And I said, I, I didn't know I

00:35:53.780 needed to bring my bee suit to pick up the bees. I, I thought that I was just going to be getting a

00:35:57.540 box and I would bring it home. And, um, I didn't realize that picking up the bees meant going down

00:36:04.600 into the bee yard where hundreds of thousands of bees are swarming around like mad. And I had to

00:36:09.960 secure my own box of bees, which means putting in, they give you this, she gave me this yellow cork and

00:36:15.780 a rubber band. And she pointed to a pallet of a bunch of boxes of bees with bees all swarming

00:36:21.360 around. She said, okay, choose one of those boxes and you got to put the cork in because there's a,

00:36:26.160 there's an entrance where the bees fly in and out before the box is picked up. So you got to cork

00:36:30.060 the hole, which is swarming with bees and then put the, uh, the rubber band. That's going to be the

00:36:35.400 only thing that keeps the box box closed while you're driving home. And I had to go do that without

00:36:39.660 a bee suit. And that was a little bit nerve wracking. Um, the one piece of advice the woman gave me,

00:36:45.140 she said, um, she said, be quick and smart. And I said, okay, that was her advice. So I grabbed the

00:36:51.580 bees and it was a little bit anticlimactic, honestly, because, uh, I didn't, I didn't get

00:36:57.460 any other advice besides be quick and smart. They didn't ask me any questions. So other than that,

00:37:03.000 they were just basically like, all right, enjoy your bees. See you later. And I thought, shouldn't

00:37:06.840 they, I mean, shouldn't they ask for my driver's license or something? How do they, I feel like there

00:37:11.260 should be more going on here. I mean, I, I, I'm, I'm picking up a box of 10,000 angry bees.

00:37:16.600 Um, then I drove home 20 or 30 miles, very windy and hilly roll, uh, you know, windy and hilly roads

00:37:22.780 with a big box of bees sitting next to me. I hear them buzzing in the passenger seat.

00:37:28.840 Uh, and I kept thinking to myself, man, there, there is just a rubber band separating me from 10,000

00:37:35.520 bees. What if I hit a deer? What if I, what if I hit a deer and the airbags come out and this box

00:37:40.820 opens up and then I'm killed and I'm stuck behind the airbag and being stung to death.

00:37:47.500 And then I started thinking to myself, what kind of headline will that be? You know,

00:37:51.900 conservative commentator stung to death by 10,000 bees after fender bender with deer.

00:37:56.340 And then I thought that would be kind of a funny headline. And I don't know how I feel about having

00:38:01.140 my death become a funny headline on Drudge Report or something. Um, anyway, I made it home alive and I

00:38:07.440 got the bees in and, uh, and now I'm a beekeeper folks. So there's that story. All right. Um,

00:38:12.580 from Dominic says, hi, Matt, I'm a 17 year old who is not going to college due to your advice.

00:38:17.380 I've been listening to your show for a few months now, and I've been persuaded not to attend college,

00:38:21.060 at least for a few years after graduation. Instead, you want to start working full-time

00:38:24.860 after high school. One thing I've noticed is that there's an extreme amount of pressure on kids to

00:38:29.000 go to college. People come up to me and instead of asking my plans after high school, they ask,

00:38:32.940 what college are you going to? When I say I'm not going to attend college, they always give me a

00:38:37.380 disappointed look. However, when I explain to them my reasoning, which I get from you,

00:38:41.780 they always act as if they haven't even thought about it before and brighten up. I think there is

00:38:46.440 no way this pressure is healthy and I applaud you for standing against it. Well, Dominic, uh, I,

00:38:52.180 I applaud you for making a different, but I think wise decision. Look, ultimately you got to do what's

00:38:59.200 right for you. Uh, so I'm not going to sit here and try to tell an individual person personally

00:39:03.660 what's right for them. But I think that, look, I don't, I don't see Dominic any downside in your

00:39:09.880 plan. If you're going to go get a job, you could still go to college. If you decide you want to,

00:39:13.700 it's not a race. Uh, you've got plenty of life still ahead of you, God willing. So get a job,

00:39:20.600 make some money, have some experience. Maybe when you're 20 years old, you'll decide, Hey,

00:39:25.060 I want to go to college. And then you can, and you'll have, you'll act, you can actually do that

00:39:29.740 and have money when you do it. Um, so I think that that's a wonderful plan. And, uh, I don't

00:39:35.300 suspect that you'll regret it. I, I don't think, you know, I really doubt that there's anyone at the

00:39:42.440 age of 40 who waited three or four years to go to college at a high school and regrets it. Like

00:39:48.260 they're living in regret, wishing they had gone when they were 18 instead of 20 or 21. I don't think

00:39:52.400 there's anyone in that position. Uh, so you're, you're pretty safe as far as that goes. This is

00:39:57.300 from Norm says, Oh, great. Theocratic fascist dictator, the wisest of all dude, man, bros

00:40:01.600 Walsh, the bearded. How can I grow a great beard such as the one of your own chin? I fear being

00:40:07.840 executed when you gain power in the foreseeable future for my lack of beard growth. Please tell

00:40:13.060 me so I may save myself. Well, Norm, I appreciate that you are thinking about this and, and your

00:40:21.680 intuition is correct, um, that you will be executed, uh, uh, unfortunately. And as I always

00:40:27.980 emphasize, it's nothing personal. Um, you know, when I am carrying out these sentences, it is only

00:40:37.180 because it's the law, which has been arbitrarily decided by my own deranged whims. Um, as far as how

00:40:45.640 do you do it, I, you know, I guess there's not really any advice I can offer. It's just, all I can

00:40:52.700 say is figure it out. Uh, you know, you've got a few years until I complete my takeover, um, of the

00:40:59.860 country and then the world. So, uh, look, I don't know, figure it out and, and, uh, push comes to

00:41:07.940 shove, you know, you could look at beard implants. I don't know, but you're, you're coming up against

00:41:16.280 the deadline. That's all I can say. Uh, let's see from Cindy says, Matt, please stop using the word

00:41:23.620 miracle on your show. Your pronunciation of that word causes me great anxiety. Please stop. I can't

00:41:28.120 take it anymore. I get like 10 emails like this every day. Now people claim me that I say miracle

00:41:32.880 and I'm supposed to pronounce it miracle miracle. Is that what you want? Cindy miracle? No, it's

00:41:41.000 miracle miracle. It's a gosh darn miracle. That's how I'm going to say it from now on. That's what you

00:41:47.180 just earned all you people with your discriminatory attitudes towards my Baltimore accent. Uh, we'll do

00:41:54.200 one more if I can find one. Uh, let's see. Okay. This is from Alison says, hi, Matt, Matt. I agree

00:42:02.780 with a lot of your take on the democratic lineup for 2020. So not even worth going through why none

00:42:07.200 of them are worth our votes. Agreed. However, I have such mixed feelings about Trump as I believe

00:42:12.660 you do too. I see that his administration has done a lot of good for the country. At the same time,

00:42:16.940 I don't like Trump leading us. I don't like the way he talks to and about others. He disagrees with

00:42:21.400 I don't like his narcissism. The fact that he just can't refrain from making comments that do no good

00:42:25.740 for his image. And unfortunately by extension, the image of Republicans. These are of course,

00:42:30.140 just a few examples. I know this could or would never happen, but I can't help feeling like can't

00:42:34.660 Republicans just pick a new candidate for 2020, someone to continue most of the policies, but

00:42:39.200 who we can be, we can be proud of and generally feel comfortable with. Why do we have to automatically

00:42:43.740 continue with Trump? I realized the threat that this would cause a big division within the party

00:42:47.980 is probably why we can't really consider it. But how about, what about, um, how about Trump has just

00:42:54.060 offered a new reality TV deal. If he backs a different Republican candidate, interested to hear your

00:42:58.580 thoughts on what, if anything could allow us to consider a different candidate. Yeah. Uh, Alison,

00:43:04.240 I basically agree with your assessments there, including your assessment that, which you offered,

00:43:10.260 which is that this hypothetical you're talking about could never happen, will not never happen,

00:43:15.480 won't happen. Um, it, it just doesn't happen where a party kicks out their incumbent or tries to.

00:43:24.360 So it's simply not going to happen. Um, I, as I have expressed, and I know that Trump's

00:43:35.700 most devoted followers don't want to hear it, don't like hearing it, but I think that there is a

00:43:40.700 significant chance that Trump loses certain, there's certainly a significant chance he loses.

00:43:45.800 There's a significant chance he loses in a landslide and, um, maybe for his own good. And now it's,

00:43:55.080 again, it's not going to happen, but, um, you could argue that it would be in his best interest

00:44:02.560 to say, Hey, I'm a one-term president. I'm stepping out. I I'm not losing. I just, I choose,

00:44:07.440 I've done my, I've done what I wanted to do and I've, I've succeeded in this. And so now I'm going to

00:44:12.460 go and I'm going to pass the torch to someone else. Um, I think that would be a politically

00:44:17.800 savvy and smart move for Trump and he could avoid the landslide loss. Um, he, he would also give

00:44:24.300 Republicans a much better chance of winning in 2020 if they don't have Trump to run against anymore.

00:44:28.680 I mean, their, their entire plan is to run, obviously he's running against Trump and that's

00:44:33.240 what they're, you know, they're not really planning on putting forward any vision for the future.

00:44:37.860 Or their whole thing is going to be anti-Trump, anti-Trump, anti-Trump, and just ginning up as

00:44:42.480 much of that Trump hatred as possible, which won't be difficult to do because the reality is no matter

00:44:46.980 how anyone personally feels about the guy, a lot of people in this country hate his guts. Now you

00:44:52.640 might not think they should, but they do. And there are a lot of people in that camp. And there are a

00:44:57.520 lot of people who, who believe that he's a racist and a sexist and all these things. I don't think

00:45:01.320 he is a racist. I think that's absurd that, that claim. I think there's no basis for it

00:45:04.400 whatsoever, but he has successfully been painted that way. Um, and you could say, well, they do

00:45:10.520 that with every Republican true, but they've done it much more successfully with Trump. And in some

00:45:16.880 cases he has made it easy on them. Um, again, not because he's really racist, but because he just

00:45:23.000 has no discipline whatsoever in what he says. And that is not an advantage. It just isn't the whole

00:45:29.680 comment about, you know, during the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, and he said the good

00:45:33.560 people on both sides. I mean, that's one of those comments that that's going to live in infamy.

00:45:41.140 They're going to throw that at him again and again and again in 2020, they've been throwing

00:45:44.620 out it at him for the last few years to great effect, maybe not effective to Trump's fans,

00:45:50.280 but to a lot of other people, they hear the comment like that and they, what good people on both sides.

00:45:54.820 Um, so that kind of thing is what they can use. And the point is, um, in order for Trump to win,

00:46:04.040 he is going to need depressed turnouts in places like Philadelphia and Detroit, which will give him

00:46:13.260 a chance to win Michigan and Pennsylvania, but that ain't going to happen. It just isn't. Um,

00:46:18.540 those voters are coming out and they're coming out against Trump. They're not coming out for him.

00:46:22.480 Um, and so that's, that's going to be the problem anyway. Um, yeah, it's, it's, he's, he's going to

00:46:30.260 be the candidate. Um, and that's all there is to it. And we'll see, we'll see what happens. But Alison,

00:46:38.260 I will tell you that I agree with what you're saying here and you are not alone. Um, there are a lot of

00:46:44.400 Republicans and conservatives who feel the same way. And there are also a lot who didn't feel that way

00:46:49.940 to begin with that. There are a lot of people who kind of liked Trump's whole shtick, but now have

00:46:55.500 grown tired of it. Um, and have grown tired of it, especially because although he has done

00:47:02.260 some good things and he has followed through on some of his promises, he also has done a lot of

00:47:10.120 nothing at the same time. He spent a lot of time tweeting, a lot of time arguing with cable news

00:47:15.780 personalities, a lot of time worried about, you know, exacting vengeance via Twitter on anyone who

00:47:22.020 insults him, but not a lot of time, you know, for instance, trying to get the wall built, which he

00:47:27.580 could have done. He, he, he had the, he had the government, you know, he had Republicans control

00:47:33.160 the government from, for the first two years of his presidency. You could try to blame Paul Ryan

00:47:37.360 and Mitch McConnell all you want. The fact is he could have had this fight right then and there

00:47:41.780 from day one, he's going to say, we're going to get this wall built and he could have obsessively

00:47:46.020 focused on it. And if he had done that, it would have happened. Um, because he had leverage over

00:47:52.060 Republicans. He has none over Democrats. He waited until Democrats controlled the house to even try to

00:47:58.320 build the wall, which tells me that he doesn't really care about building it. And, um, and I think

00:48:06.800 there are a lot of voters who have noticed that and are going to be less excited about coming out in

00:48:11.680 2020 for that reason. So, all right, we'll leave it on that depressing note. That's your fault,

00:48:18.420 Alison. Uh, no, I'm kidding. Thank you for the email and thanks for watching everybody. Godspeed.

00:48:23.360 I'm Michael Knowles, host of the Michael Knowles show. A woman is suing an Uber driver for refusing

00:48:41.180 to take her to an abortion. Meanwhile, leftists weep over a sack full of puppies in a dumpster.

00:48:46.340 We will examine our clinical culture. Check it out at dailywire.com.

The Matt Walsh Show - April 24, 2019

Ep. 246 - Heroic Uber Driver Refuses To Bring A Woman To Her Abortion Appointment

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