Ep. 255 - If An Unborn Baby Isn't Human, What Is It？
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A bill in Georgia that makes it illegal to abort a baby after the first heartbeat is detected is causing a stir in the pro-life community. What does this mean for fatherhood? And why does it matter if you are pro-choice or not?
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, a bill in Georgia that just became law now makes it illegal to
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abort a baby after the heartbeat can be detected. The left is reacting to this wonderful law
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about as calmly as you might expect, including a leftist on CNN yesterday who claimed that an
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unborn baby is not a human being. So we will analyze that rather insane claim today. Also,
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what is soligamy? I will explain. And I want to talk about an important lesson that I
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recently learned about fatherhood. We'll talk about that and other things today on the Matt Wall Show.
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Well, we begin with great news. The governor of Georgia, Brian Kemp, courageously signed a bill
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into law yesterday that outlaws all abortion after the heartbeat can be detected. So that
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that takes care of a great number of abortions, not all of them, but many of them. And there have
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been boycott threats and things from Hollywood and other organizations and industries saying that
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they're going to boycott the state if this bill is signed into law. But Kemp made it clear that he's
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not going to be intimidated and that he's going to follow through on his pro-life convictions
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anyway. So he deserves to be commended for that. And all of the pro-life legislators down there in
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Georgia deserve to be commended. Now, of course, the left is having conniption fits over this,
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as you would expect. I'm not going to bother going through and giving you examples of the things that
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they're saying. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, of course, is having a tantrum about it and all the usual
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suspects. I'm not going to go through that because it doesn't really matter. And pro-aborts,
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they have two or three arguments at their disposal and a whole bunch of straw men. And they just shout
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them incessantly. It's the same thing over and over and over again. And they keep shouting them.
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No matter how often you engage with their points and debunk the points, it doesn't matter. They'll
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just keep going back to the well over and over and over again. So at a certain point, it's like,
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what's, what's, what reason is there even to get into the specifics of what their arguments are?
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You already know what their arguments are. It's a bunch of men that are trying to control women's
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bodies and blah, blah, blah. I will just say one thing though. There will, you know, and backing up
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for a second. The thing is that with the pro-aborts who use these straw men arguments of, oh, it's men
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trying to control women. You're trying to control women's bodies. You know, all the different
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straw men. If you, you can't be against, you can't be against abortion if you're not willing to adopt
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all of the unwanted babies. We talked about that a few days ago. So basically you're not allowed to
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be opposed to somebody's murder unless you are able to personally feed and clothe those people. So,
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which means that you're not allowed to be opposed to almost everyone's murder because you personally
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probably don't have the ability to clothe and feed 7 billion people. Right. Uh, but all these,
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all these straw men, the thing is, if the person who makes the straw men arguments, the reason why
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they're using straw men is that they are intellectually lazy non thinkers. And if you're an intellectually lazy
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non thinker, it's, you really can't be engaged with, uh, because if you're not willing to think,
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if you're not willing to think beyond claiming that the pro-life movement is a patriarchal conspiracy,
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if that's the most you're willing to think, if you're not willing to engage your mind and really
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try to understand, okay, why is it? Maybe it's not just that these are a bunch of men who are trying
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to control women. Could there be some other reason possibly why someone might be against abortion?
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If you're not willing to think like that or to think at all, then there's, there's no conversation
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can be had. You have to be willing to turn on your brain first. Um, but there's, there's one thing,
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one thought I want to share. There will now, it's very, very simple concept here. There will,
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there will now be children born in Georgia who otherwise would not have been born.
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Right. Uh, this law will indeed prevent many women from getting abortions. If, if it, if it was not
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going to prevent many women from getting abortions, then pro-abortion people wouldn't be freaking out
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about it. They try to have it both ways here. They'll say on one hand, the law is terrible because
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it's going to prevent all these women from getting abortions. And then on the other hand, they'll say
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it's not going to prevent anyone because now they'll go to the back alley and they'll get back
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alley abortion. So they try to have it both ways, but they know that, yes, it will prevent,
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not every woman, but it will prevent a significant number of women from getting abortions.
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All right. So what does that mean? Well, it means that in say a year's time or two years time,
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there will be a number of, I think the law goes into effect in 2020 actually. So in let's say
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three years time or four years time, there will be a number of babies in Georgia,
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living born babies who would not be there, would not exist if not for this law. So if you're against
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this law, are you willing to look at a baby born in Georgia in the year 2021 and say he shouldn't
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exist? It would be better if he did not exist. Are you willing to do that? I'm not.
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And that's, that's the point here. The, the terrible dystopian handmaid's tale result of this
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Georgia law is that there will be more babies. That's it. That's the result. Okay. That's the
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dystopia that we are heading into. It's a world where there are a few more babies, babies that are
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allowed to live rather than being killed. Now the left can mourn over that if they want, they can treat
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it like some sort of catastrophe, but you know, I, I'm not going to because I love babies. I think
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babies are awesome. I love life. I think life is awesome. Uh, and that's how I live. I can't
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imagine living other way, any other way. I can't imagine being the sort of person
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who would get upset at the idea of more babies being born.
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I mean, imagine being that kind of person. It's incredible. All right. I said, I wasn't going to
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bother going over the left's reaction to this law, but I do have to play one clip for you.
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Just one clip. Uh, here is a debate between Christine Quinn and Rick Santorum on CNN last
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night. Horrible tales. I answered it numerous times when, when a woman gets pregnant, that is not
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a human being inside of her. It's part of her body. And this is about a woman having full agency and
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control of her body and making decisions about her body and what is part of her body with medical
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professionals. Those are the facts. And that is the law of the land. Listen, and they can do
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whatever they want. This is about a woman's body. Listen, you can, they can do whatever they want.
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They can torture the debate. You're so desperate here. You're so desperate. No, no, no. Listen,
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I'm just, I'm just asking questions. No, you're not. You're not. You're asking provocative things
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that are trying to make people angry about what's done. And that's okay. All I'm saying is you guys
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go too far when you pervert the facts. And we have the president of the United States saying that a
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baby is born at the end of full term, swaddled in a blanket, and then to decide whether or not to
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execute it. So Chris Cuomo says, uh, you guys pervert the facts and, and who is he referring to?
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Well, he's referring to pro-lifers. Of course, you, you guys are pervert. You guys are perverting
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the fact of course. Meanwhile, a guest on his show just said seconds earlier that an unborn baby is
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not a human being, isn't a human being. Well, if that's the case, then I mean, my God, my, my wife
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is pregnant. Um, and I, I thought she was pregnant with a baby this whole time. I thought she had a baby
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in her womb this whole time. Apparently it's a space alien. I, you know, I had, I had no idea. I mean,
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I'm not mad that it's a space alien. I, I, it could be kind of cool to have a space alien around
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the house, but I think the doctor should have mentioned that at the ultrasound. That's all
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I'm saying. You know, the doctor should have said, Hey, by the way, this is a parasitic alien
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infestation, not a pregnancy. Um, I feel like that's the kind of disclosure that doctors should
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make. Or the other possibility is of course that my wife is, is actually pregnant with a human
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and that every pregnant woman in history has been pregnant with a human. Yeah. Yeah. I think
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that's probably it. I think, yeah, I think that's, I think that's gotta be it. Um, this is such a
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speaking of bad arguments. Okay. It's one thing to claim that the unborn human, the unborn baby,
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uh, is human, but is not a person. Okay. That's a stupid argument too. And we've talked about that.
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We've talked about how to address that, but at least with that argument, you're pretending
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to have some kind of respect for the basic biological facts here. And you realize that you
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can't deny that it's a human. So instead you're trying to parse, make some distinction between human
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and person. You're playing kind of a grammatical game, a word game. Uh, that's a bad argument,
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but to just go full gusto here and say, it's not, it's not even a human. Well, that's, I mean,
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there is no credible scientist in the world who will endorse that idea. I don't care how liberal they
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are, how pro abortion they are. You will not find a single credible, sane, uh, scientist who will say,
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yeah, you're right. Not a human being. There are two ways to know that it's a human being. Okay.
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Here's, here's the spoiler alert. Number one, DNA. It has human DNA that makes it a human. Number two,
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you don't even need to do a DNA test here because, um, we know it's a human because, um,
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it was created by two humans. So I guess to give Christine Quinn a little bit of a birds and bees
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lecture here, you know, okay, because I guess her parents never did. You see when, uh, when a man
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and a woman love each other and, uh, they get together, they, they have sexual relations. Um,
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and then, uh, a, uh, a pregnancy occurs. Well, that pregnancy is going to be another human. It's not
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going to be a carrot or a moose or a chair or the color blue. You know, it, it's going to be a human
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because that's two humans in the midst of the sexual act and the procreative act can only create
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another human. You know, so I, I don't know how else to explain this. Um, I don't know. Are you
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still confused, Christine Quinn? I mean, I don't know how else to, it's just two, that's all that
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two people can do. They can only create other people. They can't create any other kind of thing.
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Um, I know that that's, that's as, that's as basic as I can get. It's pretty remedial here.
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You say, oh, it's a part of the woman's body. Yeah, but it's not though. You see, except the,
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the problem with that argument is that it's completely stupid. Uh, it's, it's, it's just
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not part of the woman's body. I mean, it's not. It's, it's, it is entirely different bodies.
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A part, uh, let's, my arm is a part of my body. Okay. So you see, look at my arm here. This is my arm.
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Um, uh, it's called an arm. Uh, it's my left arm to be specific and it's a part of my body.
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Now, here's one of the ways that, you know, it's a part of my body. It's that, um, this arm
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will never be anything but an arm. You see, uh, it, it, you could cut it off and then I just won't
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have an arm anymore. But if you were to cut off my arm and please don't, but if you did and my arm
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was just laying there on the floor, it's not going to turn into a camel, uh, or a cat. It won't,
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it won't turn into anything. It just, it's just going to be, it just, it will decay. It's just an
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arm, right? And when it's connected to my body, it will, it will remain an arm forever. It will
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never become anything else. So if there is a part of your body that magically after nine months
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turns into a whole new person, well, that's a pretty good indication that that part of your body
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was never a part of your body. You see, uh, just a little, little basic science for, for you guys
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today. Um, hopefully I was able to clear that up for Christine Quinn. All right, let's stay in the
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realm, uh, the pro-life realm here for a moment. Uh, Brian Sims, the democratic rep in Pennsylvania,
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who's been harassing and bullying pro-lifers and who sparked our big rally that we're going to have
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down there, uh, up there for me in Pennsylvania on Friday, 1144 Locust street at 11 AM. That's where
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we're all going to be. Um, but Brian Sims yesterday, he recorded what has been described as an
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apology, but it's an interesting apology because it's missing something. And I want you to watch
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this and watch very closely. See if you can spot what's missing. Hi everyone. Representative Brian
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Sims here, and I'm actually up in our Capitol for this week's legislative session, but I stepped off
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the floor for a moment because I've received a lot of feedback about a video I posted last week. And I
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want to provide some background. You see, I've lived across the street or next door to this particular
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Planned Parenthood, one of the most heavily protested Planned Parenthoods in America for the last 15
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years. I've seen men and women and teens try to go there for routine health care, for checkups, for
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pap smears, for breast exams, for STD screenings, and yes, for abortions. In fact, it's where I even treat
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for my own life-saving prep medication, and I'm grateful for the services that they provide. I've also spent the
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last seven years serving as a volunteer patient escort at this Planned Parenthood, and I have seen
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first-hand the insults, the slurs, the attacks, and the racism that those protesters aim at mostly
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young girls going there for clinical care. Care that those of us on the outside can never understand,
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and last week was no different. What I should have shown you in that video was protesters gathered
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together to pray at, not to silently pray for, people coming in and out of Planned Parenthood as
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they intercepted them and harassed them. In my years with Planned Parenthood, I've seen women and girls
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circle that block two, three, four times before finally driving away because they know that they
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weren't going to get in because of those protesters. But as a Planned Parenthood volunteer and as a supporter,
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I fully understand, respect, and appreciate the non-engagement policy that they have, and I would
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never want to do anything that interfered with the care that they're providing to their patients.
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As an activist and an advocate, I know why pushing back against harassment and discrimination are a must,
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even when they're uncomfortable. But last week, I wasn't a patient escort. I was a neighbor and a
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concerned citizen, and I was aggressive. I know that two wrongs don't make a right, and I can do better,
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and I will do better for the women of Pennsylvania.
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Yeah, the missing thing, the thing that's missing from this apology is an apology. That's what's
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missing. He never once apologizes. I don't know how it is that this has been described as an apology.
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He never says, I'm sorry, or I apologize. Never says those words. He never expresses
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anything that even comes close to resembling an apology. In fact, he doubles down. He continues
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to smear pro-lifers, or smear them, as he might say. And so this is not just a classic non-apology
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apology. See, a non-apology apology is when you say something like, I'm sorry if you were offended,
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or something like that. But this is not even that. This is just another attack on pro-lifers.
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This is him continuing the smear campaign. This is him doubling down on what he initially did.
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He's justifying it. The only little bit of regret he expresses is for the inconvenience he's caused
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Planned Parenthood. There's a little tinge of regret, and it's for that. But that's it.
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So, Brian, we're still coming. 11 a.m. on Friday, 1144 Locust Street. We'll be there. And I really hope
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to see you there, though I tend to doubt that I will. All right. So Meghan McCain was on Seth
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Myers last night. Things got a little bit testy. Watch a little bit of this clip.
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I want to ask about Ilhan Omar, congresswoman from Minnesota. You know, she was in a situation,
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you were very vocal about some of her tweets. People were upset, thought it was anti-Semitic
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language. She has since unequivocally apologized for them. And then after that, there was this
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tragic synagogue shooting in California. And you once again, sort of on a Sunday show, a Sunday news
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show, brought up her tweets again in the context of that shooting. On George Stephanopoulos.
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On George Stephanopoulos. Yeah. And I just wonder, because I do think it's fairly dangerous.
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And you brought it up after Congresswoman Omar had also had some death threats against her.
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Do you think, you know, she's obviously now stated she needs to be more careful with her
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language. Don't you think other people who talk about her need to be a little bit more
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thoughtful as well? Or do you stand by those comments of tying her to this, her rhetoric to
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the synagogue shooting? I don't think I tied her to it in particular. I think that I'm calling
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out what I see as anti-Semitic language. And when you're talking about...
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But even after, you called it out after she apologized for it. I do want to establish
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the timeline. I don't... I think that Democrats are hedging on this. And I think it's very
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dangerous. And I think Chuck Schumer and I are in alignment about Israel's stance in geopolitical
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politics. I think it's of the utmost importance. And I think she is bringing her party to the
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extreme... extremism on this. And I think we have to look to Europe and what's happening over
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there. And that they're, you know, in the British politics, anti-Semitism is very common. And I see
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it happening over there. And I worry about it happening over here. I stand by every single
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thing I've said. And if that makes me unpopular in this room or in front of you, so be it.
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See, that's a weird thing when you take the position of trying to be unpopular. Here I am trying to,
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you know, find the common ground on this. Because I do think one of the... I think we could both agree...
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Was she bothered by her language about 9-11? Um, I thought it was taken out of context. And I
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think if you watch that whole speech... Would you give President Trump the same,
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same leverage if he had said the same thing? Well, I would say that Donald Trump is certainly
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in no position to criticize her language on 9-11 based on the things that he said about 9-11,
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right? So this is a comedy show, folks. This is, this is comedy. Now, conservatives are making a
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thing out of this exchange between Seth Meyers and Meghan McCain because of Meyers' political bias.
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And it's like, oh, you know, he's a left-wing bias and all that. And that's true. But I'm a lot
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more concerned about the fact that this is late night comedy, but it isn't funny. You know, I'm okay
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with a comedian being a left-winger. So maybe that's where I depart from some other conservatives out
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there where, you know, it doesn't upset me that these comedians are all liberal. I'm fine with that.
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A liberal person, theoretically, can still be funny. And if they're funny, they're funny. That's fine.
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As long as they're funny. The trouble, though, with these partisan hacks on late night is that they
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aren't funny. They're not even trying to be funny. And that's the unforgivable sin for a comedian,
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isn't it? To not be funny? It's like, you know, I don't care if my plumber is a liberal,
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so long as he's good at fixing my plumbing. If he can't do that, then he's sort of worthless as a
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plumber. And if he can't fix my plumbing and he delivers left-wing lectures to me, then that's
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insult to injury. Why is it that comedy has died in the Trump era? Why is it that all these, you know,
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these late night shows were never great, but they did used to be at least entertaining, you know,
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amusing. Um, and they're not even that anymore. And why is that? I think a lot of it goes into,
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um, well, there's, there's a lot that goes into it, but one answer certainly is that these guys
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really, really hate Donald Trump, as I'm sure you've noticed. And you can't really be funny about
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something. If you hate it in order to make funny jokes about something or someone, you have to have
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some kind of affection for the target of your humor, because if you have some kind of affection for it,
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then, then you can relate to it. And if you're going to relate to it, then you can understand it.
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And, and, and, and in order to be funny, you need to understand what you're making jokes about
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because that's a fundamental part of wit. Um, and so there's, that's the problem is that they,
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they, they absolutely hate Donald Trump, um, with a blind hatred. And by extension,
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they hate his supporters. They hate conservatives. They hate all these people. And so they,
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they just can't be funny. I mean, they can, they can, uh, sneer and they can mock,
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but they can't go beyond that because of their hatred. Um, as it turns out, you know, hatred and
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hatred and comedy really don't mix as it turns out. Speaking of comedy, I've been wanting to talk
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about this for a few days. Um, there's a, an article in the daily wire about a woman
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who married herself. And this is a, goes back to an article originally in the telegraph about a
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42 year old woman who was talking about the best, the best day of her life is when she married
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herself. Um, it says in a reading from the daily wire, it says, Melissa Denton, a two-time divorcee
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was, uh, with two children rights. The idea to marry myself came to me in January last year,
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when I was at work one day, three weeks before on Christmas Eve, uh, I had received a text message
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from my boyfriend of five and a half years. I can't do this anymore. It's over. It said it was
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devastating and left me in a funk, unable to eat, smile or sleep. Seizing upon the idea of marrying
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herself. Denton recalls a TV interview with set Sophie Tanner, who had married herself in May 15 on
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in May, 2015 Denton writes, I was so down and knew that I needed to learn to love myself before I'd be
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able to attract the right people into my life. For years, I had poured myself into relationships
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after relationship, losing myself in the process, blah, blah, blah. Um, so there was a, she got a ring
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for herself. She, uh, there was a wedding date and she invited her friends and family. They had a,
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they had a DJ, a lot, a live band, karaoke, get a huge vegan fest. I know you're shocked by that.
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This woman's a vegan. I know that surprises you. Um, and people actually came out
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to celebrate this woman's marriage, including some ex-boyfriends also came apparently now. I mean,
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obviously this is crazy and it does show again that, you know, this is someone who is completely
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self-absorbed, um, literally in love with themselves and her marriages and relationships
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aren't working out. So this goes back to that thing of if you find that your relationships never work
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and that you've got a whole string of ex-boyfriends and then a whole string of ex-husbands
00:25:22.680
at a certain point, you probably need to ask yourself, what is the common denominator? Like
00:25:30.080
in every one of these failed relationships, there's one common thread that binds them all
00:25:39.120
together. What is that? Oh yeah, it's me. I'm the thing that I am the, the, the common ingredient
00:25:47.680
in all of these failed relationships. Maybe there's something wrong with me. And maybe that thing is
00:25:54.920
among probably other things, self-absorption. That could be it. You know, she mentions there,
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uh, you have to learn to love yourself before you can love other people. That is such
00:26:08.180
utter BS of all the modernist cliches that might, that might actually be the worst because it's not
00:26:18.520
only stupid, but it's harmful. I mean, this idea that you have to, you have to work, work on loving
00:26:23.960
yourself before you can love other people. First of all, what does it mean to work on loving
00:26:28.580
yourself? Do you, what do you, so you just sit, can I just sit here at the table and just work on
00:26:34.560
loving myself? What do I do? Just think, try to think happy thoughts. Okay. I'm going to love
00:26:38.800
myself. Let me think about it. Hmm. Let me see if I can generate some love for myself. What does that
00:26:45.500
even mean? How do you do that? Or do you have to go and have a, and marry yourself and have this whole
00:26:51.060
big pageant? Um, the whole idea of me, the whole concept is meaningless. And aside from that,
00:26:59.280
you've got to see the problem with tying your, your feelings about yourself to your ability to love
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other people. Because then what, what, what if you manage somehow to love yourself at least
00:27:15.520
for the, for the time being? Um, and then you go out and you get married and you have kids.
00:27:24.460
Well, what happens on the days when you wake up and these days will come where you'll wake up
00:27:29.060
feeling, uh, not so great about yourself. There are going to be days where you're a little bit down
00:27:35.180
in the dumps. They're going to be days when, when, when you don't love yourself quite as much. So what
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are you going to say to your spouse and kids? Oh, sorry guys. I can't love you today because I,
00:27:43.740
I can't love you today because I'm just not feeling great about myself.
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No, love is an act of will. It's a choice that you make and you can and should make that choice
00:27:56.320
regardless of how you feel about yourself. So I love my wife and kids all the time. I don't,
00:28:04.180
I don't even like myself sometimes. I mean, I, I, there, there are, it's my feelings about myself
00:28:09.400
go up and down. It's not, it's not a steady thing. I think we're all like that, right?
00:28:15.220
You're not going to feel great about yourself all the time, every day. Um, and you shouldn't
00:28:22.600
try every day to conjure those feelings about yourself. You know, you know, the best thing to
00:28:27.460
do, it's just to stop thinking about yourself, put that to the side and focus on other people,
00:28:36.320
focus on the things outside of you, focus on the external realities. If you're not feeling great
00:28:43.600
about yourself, well, that's, that is a perfect time to go and, and focus on loving, especially
00:28:51.660
focus on loving your wife, loving your husband, your kids. Um, and then maybe in the process
00:29:00.840
of going through the acts and making the choice of loving other people, maybe in the midst of that,
00:29:09.740
you'll find yourself feeling better about yourself. You see, so the love for yourself
00:29:15.140
becomes more of a by-product of your love for other people, not the starting point.
00:29:20.780
All right. Um, finally, before we answer some emails, um, I had a thought I wanted to share
00:29:30.380
speaking of families and, and, and loving, you know, your, your family and all that good
00:29:36.580
stuff. Uh, I just thought I want to share, you know, I took my five-year-old son fishing
00:29:41.760
a couple of days ago and we went in the late afternoon. We stayed out until dark. Uh, we didn't
00:29:46.440
catch anything. Neither of us did. And that's partly my fault because usually when I take my
00:29:52.520
kids fishing, which I've done in the past, I'll, I'll have them, they'll be using a bobber with a,
00:29:57.360
you know, a little night crawler, like a little worm. And you just, you cast it out there. You
00:30:02.180
let, you let it sit until a little pan fish or something comes and jumps on the hook. And
00:30:07.260
it's easy to catch fish that way. You catch a lot of little small fish that way. But this time I
00:30:13.460
thought I want to teach my boy real fishing. So I had him using an adult sized rod, plastic lures,
00:30:20.140
um, the kind of lure where you cast it out, you reel it back in, you have to work the rod a little
00:30:24.820
bit and try to put some action in the lure and try to get fish attracted to it. And that's how you
00:30:30.480
catch bass. That's how you catch good sized bass, but you're ruling out the tiny fish, which means
00:30:35.700
that there's a chance that you won't catch anything at all. Whereas if you had used the bobber and
00:30:40.080
everything, you could have caught some small fish. Anyway, that's now I'm getting off
00:30:43.280
into fishing. That's not really the point. The point is he had a great time. Uh, we both did,
00:30:48.280
even though we didn't catch anything. So it didn't matter that we didn't catch anything.
00:30:51.920
Um, afterwards we went and got some pizza. I got him home way past his bedtime, but on the way home,
00:30:57.600
um, as we were driving, uh, my son told me that he wants to be a great fisherman, uh, like me one day.
00:31:07.420
He wants to be a great fisherman like daddy one day is what he said. And when he said that, you know,
00:31:14.320
I, uh, I, I said, Oh, thanks buddy. You'll get there one day. And in my head though, I was kind
00:31:19.800
of laughing because I didn't catch a single thing all day. I mean, being a fisherman like me is not a
00:31:26.880
high bar to get over. Uh, so I thought it was funny that he was that after witnessing me get goose
00:31:32.280
egged like that for three hours, he was thinking, Oh, I want to be a great, I want to be great at
00:31:37.280
fishing like dad. But then as I thought more about it, um, I realized that there's something kind of
00:31:42.620
profound about what my son said there, because as dads, our sons idolize us, they admire everything
00:31:52.860
about us, uh, even our failures. So my son was watching me fail at fishing, but that's not what
00:32:02.060
he saw. You know, that's not what he was focused on. He was thinking about, he, all he was thinking
00:32:07.380
about is that he wants to be just like me, um, and do what I do. And I think that's a really good
00:32:13.760
reason to take this fatherhood job seriously, you know, because our sons are watching us like hawks
00:32:20.900
all the time. They're picking up lessons every day, even when we aren't trying to teach them
00:32:26.360
lessons. And that's a humbling thought. And it's kind of scary because I started to think to myself,
00:32:31.560
well, okay, if he, if he was watching me suck at fishing and, uh, he took a few bad fish fishing
00:32:38.060
pointers from me accidentally, it's not the worst thing in the world. Um, but what about other moments
00:32:44.760
in my life where I, you know, I'm, I'm displaying certain more serious flaws. Um, and he's watching
00:32:50.760
that and picking up on that. If he sees me lose my temper or something like that, um, or have,
00:32:57.840
or be impatient, well, he's going to be watching that too and thinking, I want to be just like
00:33:03.240
daddy thinking, well, that's, that's what men do. That's what it means to be. I want to be a man.
00:33:07.880
Uh, and that's what a man does. So I should be like that. So it's a humbling thought. And like I
00:33:13.920
said, a scary thought, um, but also, also beautiful when you think about it, that we have,
00:33:18.380
you know, um, that kind of responsibility and that we have people in our lives who admire us and love
00:33:28.100
us that much and look up to us. Um, so it's a, it's an incredible responsibility. One other thing
00:33:33.220
about fishing with my son that I was thinking about is I noticed something else on a slightly
00:33:37.480
different note. You know, my son has a lot of trouble paying attention. He's very rambunctious,
00:33:42.720
very energetic. He struggles with the ABCs and one, two threes and all that, um, because he can't
00:33:48.540
sit still and pay attention for very long. But I took him out to the lake and he worked on his casting
00:33:54.260
for three hours. I mean, he must've made a hundred casts and he stayed focused on, he worked at it,
00:34:00.140
focused. Um, and so we, we say about our boys a lot of the time that they can't pay attention.
00:34:07.360
They can't focus. We use these words like I just used, but I think they can, they just pay attention
00:34:16.600
to different sorts of things and they can learn. They just learn differently. They're interested in
00:34:23.880
different things. They have a different style of learning. Now you might say that it's more
00:34:27.980
important for him to pay attention to the ABCs and one, two threes than it is for him to learn about
00:34:32.740
fishing, but is it really? I mean, fishing is a useful skill and he's learning other things at
00:34:38.540
the same time. I taught him about bass beds where the mommy bass lay their eggs. We talked about the
00:34:43.640
different kinds of things that fish eat, um, and how you change the color of the Lord, depending on
00:34:49.880
the clarity of the water, depending on the time of day and all that kind of stuff. Uh, we talked about
00:34:54.500
how bass like to be around structures like stumps and big rocks and laid down trees. Uh, we talked about
00:35:00.820
how they come up into the shallows when it gets cooler and there's, and there's less light. Um,
00:35:05.480
and so he, he learned a lot. He, he had a whole biology lesson right there at the lake and he learned
00:35:12.060
a skill at the same time. So if I tried to sit him down on a chair and just lecture him about fish,
00:35:20.500
um, he would not have been able to absorb anything I said, but take him out to the lake,
00:35:27.300
let him see, let him touch, let him move around, let him explore, let him do something while he's
00:35:35.060
learning. And, uh, and, and what do you know? He learns. And I think it's probably that, that way
00:35:41.220
for a lot of, a lot of young boys, a lot of young boys who have been consigned to the label of learning
00:35:49.000
disabled or, or whatever else. Um, no, they can learn. They just don't learn like that.
00:35:55.500
They learn differently and that's okay. All right. Let's look at a couple of emails now. Um,
00:36:01.580
this is from Jennifer at Matt wall show at gmail.com at wall show at gmail.com. This is from
00:36:05.860
Jennifer as an OBG wine resident. I have been involved in the delivery of over 400 babies,
00:36:11.000
and I can only recall maybe two dozen couples who didn't know the gender of their baby beforehand.
00:36:15.460
In my experience, the surprise deliveries are way more fun and emotionally powerful than the ones
00:36:20.200
where the parents already know what they're going to have. I absolutely intend for my future
00:36:24.420
pregnancies to be surprises. Are you and your wife going to find out your gender, uh, find out the
00:36:28.840
gender of your new baby before his or her birth, or do you want it to be a surprise? Did you know
00:36:34.660
the genders of your other kids beforehand? I'd be willing to bet you've never hosted a gender reveal
00:36:38.620
party, but I'm curious to know your thoughts on that as well. Um, yeah, your bet is a safe one.
00:36:44.520
I have never done a gender reveal party and I would never do one or attend one. I find the whole
00:36:50.500
concept mystifying, honestly. I mean, I couldn't possibly care less about the gender of any child,
00:36:59.360
um, that any of my friends or family might be having. And it's not that I don't care about their
00:37:04.860
kids. It's just, I don't have like it. I don't have a preference for what gender, uh, my sister has it.
00:37:13.660
So it's not, I just, I don't get it. I'm happy for them that they're having a kid, but I'm supposed
00:37:19.560
to go to a party and be thrilled about whatever gender it is. Um, it doesn't make any sense. If
00:37:26.460
it's a girl, great. If it's a boy, great. But at a gender reveal party, when the blue confetti comes
00:37:33.420
down or however they reveal it, I'm supposed to go, it's a boy. Oh my gosh. I had no idea. It's a huge
00:37:39.760
surprise. It's so exciting. No, it's really not that awesome or amazing. It was a 50 50 chance
00:37:45.900
and it ended up being a boy. Great. Good for you. So I don't understand that. Um, the gender reveal
00:37:52.340
party is to me silly, but, uh, we did find out the gender beforehand. We do, we do, we do find out the
00:37:59.900
gender beforehand. Um, and I also don't understand not wanting to know the gender before it's fine.
00:38:07.820
If people don't want to know, it can be fun to get that surprise, I guess, when the baby is born,
00:38:11.840
but your child in the womb is your child, right? It's, it's whether it's your son or daughter,
00:38:18.380
it's your son or daughter. Um, and it doesn't become your child at birth. So why wouldn't you
00:38:24.680
want to know what gender your child is in the womb? I mean, you might as well say, I don't want
00:38:30.160
to know what the gender of the child is for the first year. No, don't tell me. I don't want to know.
00:38:33.780
Don't tell me. I want to be surprised on the first birthday. Why? Of course there are parents
00:38:38.520
who basically do that now, or they say, Oh no, it was a, cause the child's going to choose their
00:38:42.160
own gender, but putting those wackos to the side. Um, yeah, I, uh, so I, I can understand one.
00:38:49.700
Anyway, look, people do it however they want. It's, there is no right or wrong answer, but for me,
00:38:54.260
um, it just seems to me that that's my kid and I'd like to know everything I can about them right
00:39:01.420
now. Why, why wait? Um, all right. From Catherine says, uh, in a handful of relationships, uh,
00:39:09.840
I've known that ended in divorce, all included adultery, but only one involved the husband
00:39:15.100
cheating on his wife. The rest were wives cheating on husbands. In most cases, the wife was career
00:39:19.200
driven. And in all, but one, um, there were kids involved. This eats at me significantly,
00:39:25.220
especially since one of the cheating wives was my own career obsessed mother. Why is it that women
00:39:30.040
seem to cheat so much in relationships? And why do they always claim victim when they've been caught?
00:39:36.360
Well, I don't know if women cheat more or men cheat more. I don't know if I would suspect it's
00:39:40.900
probably about even. It's a kind of a human failing that I think stretches across both genders,
00:39:46.840
but I don't know what the stats say on that. A couple of observations. It's, it's no surprise
00:39:52.140
that cheaters claim victimhood status. Um, someone with a victim mentality is someone who is self
00:39:58.200
absorbed, right? Uh, they're always the victim because everything's about them. Everything is
00:40:03.320
a conspiracy about them. And they feel like they're entitled to be happy and satisfied all the time.
00:40:08.440
And whoever they happen to be around, whoever's in their life, whoever is in their orbit,
00:40:12.880
well, the job, the primary job of those people is to make them happy. Um, and especially in a marriage,
00:40:20.800
these self-absorbed people think that my spouse's sole purpose in life is to make me happy.
00:40:31.100
That's it. They have no other function. It's all about me. And so somebody with that mentality,
00:40:38.860
it's no surprise that they would then go cheat and feel entitled to do so because if their spouse
00:40:46.020
isn't making them happy, then they think, well, uh, I have a right to go and be happy somewhere else
00:40:51.780
because this is all about me. And my happiness is the most important thing in the universe.
00:40:56.100
And then they can also feel like they've been victimized at the same time because they can say
00:41:00.240
to their spouse, well, how dare you get mad at me? You didn't make me happy. This is your fault.
00:41:05.860
So that's where that comes from. And it's also no surprise that career obsessed people cheat men
00:41:11.380
or women. Um, because of course there's nothing wrong with caring about your career. Uh, nothing
00:41:17.860
wrong with that. But if your career is the only thing you care about, well, that's just another
00:41:23.460
way of saying that you are the only thing you care about because your career is mostly about you
00:41:28.780
and your own advancement, your own success. And so if that becomes the, the focal point of your life,
00:41:36.020
then your marriage is going to take a backseat. It's going to have a secondary status. And if your
00:41:41.540
marriage has a secondary status, then, uh, if your marriage is secondary and you're spending all day
00:41:47.640
focused on something that has nothing to do with your marriage, well, then that's at that point,
00:41:52.700
if you stay with that mentality, it's, it's almost a certainty that you'll cheat eventually.
00:42:06.420
And, uh, well, I'll read this one. It says, uh, no name provided says I'm a big fan of your show.
00:42:11.720
I'm a Christian and conservative as well. I recently got admitted to Harvard law school.
00:42:15.020
I want to thank you for being part of the motivation and installation of faith that helped me get,
00:42:18.460
get here. I was a poor black kid from the projects. Listening to you taught me what it was to be a
00:42:23.380
man and achieve from sleeping in the back of the 2003 Ford focus to getting a job and getting my S
00:42:28.520
together. Thank you, friend. I can't ever let you know how much you've changed my life. There were
00:42:32.540
days when I didn't even want to live ashamed and embarrassed. Something about listening to your show
00:42:36.820
this past year made it worth it. Never stop what you're doing. I hope one day I can have a show like
00:42:40.920
yours and impact people in a similar way. Uh, God bless brother. Wow. Well, that's, I am blown away. Um,
00:42:47.480
thank you for that. Thank you for that, uh, for that, uh, for that feedback. And also, um,
00:42:55.780
I feel like I don't deserve any credit at all though, because you're sleeping in the back of a car.
00:43:03.200
You're starting with nothing. You're achieving, you're not complaining. You're not making yourself a
00:43:09.620
victim. Um, you've taken your life into your own hands and climbing your way to success. I mean,
00:43:19.360
that, that is all just, just to be clear, that is 100% totally you, but whatever small little tiny
00:43:24.340
role I could play in motivating you, I'm, I'm grateful for that role. So thank you for that.
00:43:29.360
All right. Uh, we'll end on that sappy note. Thanks everybody for watching. Thanks for listening.
00:43:33.740
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00:43:51.160
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