Ep. 266 - Speaking In Code
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In this episode of The Matt Walsh Show, host Matt Walsh talks about an Orwellian language guide for discussing abortion, Quentin Tarantino is accused of sexism, Jeff Daniels says that democracy is coming to an end if Trump is re-elected, and Michael Avenatti is charged with fraud.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, NPR issues an Orwellian language guide for discussing abortion.
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I've got my own language guide, which I think is a little bit more honest and straightforward.
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Also, Quentin Tarantino is accused of sexism because the women don't spend enough time talking in his latest film.
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Jeff Daniels says that democracy is coming to an end if Trump is re-elected.
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We're going to take a trip down memory lane and remember all the time that the media spent hyping this guy up.
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We'll do all of that today on the Matt Wall Show.
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Welcome to the show. Thanks for being here. Thanks for watching.
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Okay, as the Daily Wire reported, I should say, this week, NPR has issued what they're calling a guidance reminder,
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which is an appropriately Orwellian phrase to describe an Orwellian thing that they're doing.
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And the guidance reminder, what it is, is it's instructing journalists on which words and phrases they should avoid
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and which they should employ when reporting on the abortion issue.
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So NPR, just to give you, I'm not going to go through their whole memo that they released on this,
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NPR suggests that reporters avoid writing or saying partial birth abortion.
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And instead of partial birth abortion, they say that you should use the term intact dilation and extraction.
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Intact dilation and extraction is the term you should use instead of partial birth abortion.
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Instead, medical or health clinic that performs abortion.
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It's recommended that you don't refer to abortion doctors.
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Instead, they say, well, you could talk about someone, a doctor who operates clinics where abortions are performed.
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That's a big no-no because NPR says it's not a baby until it's born.
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You must not, under any circumstance, refer to pro-lifers.
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They are abortion rights opponents, not pro-lifers.
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Journalists are even cautioned against using a phrase like fetal heartbeat,
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which is a medical phrase, even has fetus in there.
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You'd think they'd like that, fetal heartbeat, medical phrase.
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It might make someone think of a fetus as a living person, and we wouldn't want that, right?
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The point at every turn here is to utilize language that will make abortion seem as clinical and sanitized as possible
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while making pro-lifers seem as crazy as possible.
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Now, while I respect NPR's steadfast commitment to partisanship and distortion and their loyal submission to the abortion lobby,
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I tend to think that these code words only make the abortion conversation more confusing,
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Obviously, I know that's what they're trying to do.
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Pro-aborts always want to talk about abortion in a way that will not encourage anyone to actually think about abortion.
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They don't want you to—they want to put that as a side.
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Even though you're talking about this issue, they want to make the issue you're discussing a side thing.
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As a pro-lifer myself, but more importantly as someone who values honesty and clarity, I take the opposite approach.
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If we're going to talk about killing babies, we should be straightforward and frank about it.
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We should use terms and phrases that make it clear what we're talking about.
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Just like we should be doing that in any conversation.
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You should be using language that clearly conveys the meaning of what you're trying to say.
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So I thought I would offer kind of an answer to their guidance reminder with my own guidance reminder of ideas of phrases and terms that we could use in place of some of the more commonly used ones.
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Number one, fetus simply means offspring in Latin.
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If you're going to insist on fetus, you may as well insist on—
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In Japan, Japanese for infant is akachan, which I knew off the top of my head.
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I'm fluent in Japanese, in case you didn't know.
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It'd be like if you said, no, no, no, they're not babies.
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In your effort to avoid using the word baby, you're still using the word baby.
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You're just—it's, as I said, a different language is all.
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But even the word baby or unborn baby might not be the best choice.
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And I think maybe people just tune out that phrase now, especially pro-abortion people,
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which is why—here's my first guidance reminder—I have been advocating, maybe as you've heard
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before, I have been advocating that we refer to the unborn as undocumented infants.
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Because, after all, the only difference between an infant in the womb and an infant outside
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of the womb is that the former lacks a birth certificate.
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Number two, intact dilation and extraction sounds like something that your dentist might do,
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But it's probably not an appropriate term to use to describe a procedure where a fully
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developed, viable, and living infant child is pulled from the womb feet first until just
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his head remains in the birth canal, and then he's executed via suction tube to the back
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of the skull, and his brains are sucked out of his head while he's still alive.
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That's not me making it up or exaggerating in the slightest.
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So intact dilation and extraction, no, we need something that communicates the horror of it
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Partial birth abortion doesn't quite capture it either, I don't think.
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So in place of both of those euphemisms, I would suggest cervical infanticide.
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Partial birth abortion is literally the killing of an infant as it passes through the cervix.
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So cervical infanticide, that would be my idea.
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Number three, reproductive rights is a misnomer.
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Nobody is challenging a woman's right to reproduce.
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Reproduction has nothing to do with this debate at all.
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Reproduction has nothing to do with this debate.
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Scientifically speaking, reproduction occurs at conception.
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You don't have, we don't have to, now it's also a scientific fact that life begins at conception,
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Whenever you think life begins, there's no doubt that reproduction happens at conception.
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That is the, that is the moment of reproduction.
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I've been in the hospital for the births of three children, and I don't remember anyone
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Nobody says that because that's not when reproduction happens.
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It doesn't happen as the baby emerges from the birth canal.
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That's because birth and reproduction are not the same.
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A woman who avoids conception entirely, either through abstinence or birth control, has failed
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to reproduce, and as such has exercised her reproductive rights.
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By choosing to reproduce or not reproduce, that is to conceive a child or not, or to engage
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in the activity which could result in conception, that's where your reproductive rights come
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Once the baby is produced, reproductive rights have nothing to do with it anymore.
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A woman who gets an abortion is killing a child that's already been produced, which
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is why instead of, you know, through abortion, she's not exercising her reproductive rights.
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Because she is exercising her parental murder rights.
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Because she is the parent of that child, and we are saying that as the parent, she has the
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right to murder her own child, as long as the child is still located physically in her body,
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Still, as long as he's there, we got him on a technicality, we can kill him.
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I think that's the term we should use instead of reproductive rights.
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Abortion doctor, number four, is a problematic term because it includes the word doctor.
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I agree with NPR that we should discard that terminology, which is confusing and I think
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has the tendency to obfuscate, though their recommendation for a replacement term is obviously
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I would suggest the term medical assassin, that we use that instead.
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Because this makes it clear that these are professionals ostensibly in the medical industry.
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But they aren't doctors because by definition, doctors treat and cure.
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I'm sure, in fact, if you were to look up the definition of doctor in Merriam-Webster,
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you would find something like that about how they treat and cure illness and sickness.
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That's what they swear to do in the Hippocratic Oath.
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When someone is paid to kill another person, that's a hitman or an assassin.
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I have a problem with using the phrase Planned Parenthood.
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It's technically the name of an actual organization.
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But it is so ironic and so divorced from what Planned Parenthood actually does on a daily basis.
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When you think planning parenthood, you're thinking of planning parenthood.
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Whereas you go to Planned Parenthood because you don't want to be a parent anymore.
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And so even just saying Planned Parenthood, it feels like we're complicit in this lie about what Planned Parenthood does.
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You know, I'm not settled on what we call it instead.
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Maybe Margaret Sanger's killing field could be a suggestion.
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But we do need something other than Planned Parenthood.
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Finally, pro-choice is just a completely ridiculous phrase.
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As it would seem to suggest that pro-choice people are somehow in favor of choices generally.
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But as I have explained in the past, being pro-choice, saying that you're pro-choice is like saying that you're pro-shooting.
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But their opinion about the wisdom of shooting a gun will depend entirely on why the gun is being shot.
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Nobody would describe themselves as pro-shooting because that's different.
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Depends on where you are and what you're doing.
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There are plenty of times when someone who is pro-gun would be anti-shooting.
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They say, no, this is not a good time to shoot the gun.
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Nobody thinks that every choice is a good choice.
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No one thinks that we should have the right to make literally any choice we want.
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And if that's not your position, then don't call yourself pro-choice because there are plenty of circumstances where you would be against choice.
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There are plenty of circumstances where you would say, no, a person shouldn't have that choice in this particular situation.
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When someone says they are pro-choice, what they really mean is that they are pro one particular choice,
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which specifically in this case involves the direct killing of an innocent human being who also happens to be the child of the person making the choice.
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So maybe that's the phrase we should use instead of pro-choice.
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Instead of pro-choice, it's pro one particular choice, which specifically in this case involves the direct killing of an innocent human being
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who also happens to be the child of the person making the choice.
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it's a little bit wordy, but at least it's honest. So that's my guidance reminder. I'll forward that
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over to NPR. All right. Let's see. Quentin Tarantino has a new movie coming out. Tarantino
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is obviously a talented filmmaker. I think he's a little bit overrated. His last movie was awful,
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in my opinion. And, uh, and it's hard to make, uh, his last movie was a Western called hateful
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eight. It's hard to make a bad Western. At least it's hard to make a Western that I will think is
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bad. I, uh, I like to think I have relatively discerning tastes when it comes to movies,
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but with Westerns, I don't, I like, I like almost every Western. Uh, if you just put some dudes on
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a, on a whore on horses and, and have them shooting bad guys, um, out in the, you know,
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in the, in the, in the desert somewhere, um, I'm, I'm all about it. I, I, I like almost all of those
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movies and, uh, yeah, they all, they almost always have the same sort of plot and everything. And I
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think it's great. I could sit for 10 hours and just watch Western after Western. My point is
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Tarantino makes a Western and somehow he manages to make a, not only a bad one that one that, but one
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that's unwatchable, even for someone like me, it was way too self-indulgent among other problems.
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But anyway, he's got this film coming out called once upon a time in Hollywood. And he was at a
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press conference after the film's debut when a feminist who had been keeping track of the amount
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of time that women had been allowed to talk in the movie or had been given lines of dialogue in this
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movie. Uh, she decided to stand up and take him to task. Watch this. Quentin, you have put Margot Robbie,
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a very talented actress, um, actor in your film. She was in the Leonardo, with Leonardo in Wolf of
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Wall Street. I, Tonya, this is a, you know, person with a great deal of acting talent and yet you
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haven't really given her many lines in the movie. And I wondered, I guess that was a deliberate choice
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on your part. And I just wanted to know why that was that we don't hear her actually speaking very
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much. And, uh, Margot, I wanted you to also comment about being in the film in this part.
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I, um, like I said, like I said earlier, I, I, I always look to the character and what the
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character is supposed to serve to the story. Now, as I said, I'm not a huge Tarantino guy,
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but this is an unbelievably stupid criticism, uh, especially against Tarantino. Tarantino made a
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movie called Jackie Brown, where, which has a female lead character named Jackie Brown. Um,
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he, he made a two volume action film with a female lead, Uma Thurman, Kill Bill. Uh, some of his most
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iconic characters have been females. So it's, so there are fewer females in this one. Who cares?
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Feminists are, you know, I was thinking about this. Feminists really are like my kids, um,
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in that they're constantly whining, well, constantly whining in general, but especially constantly doing
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this comparison where whining like, but why did you give him more cereal than me?
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Look at all the cereal you gave him. I want more cereal. Now that's when you've got five-year-old
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twins, like I do, you, you, you hear a lot of that kind of stuff. And that's why I just, I, I,
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I have become less and less patient with feminists, um, as a parent, because I already have to deal
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with this exactly this kind of whining in my house. I don't want to have to deal with it out in the
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world too, or when I go online, but it's the same kind of thing. It's this constant comparison. Oh, you gave him
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more than her. That's not fair. It's not fair. No, that guy had, had 14 minutes of dialogue and she
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only had 11. This isn't fair. Jeez. You whiny, insufferable. Ah, this is why people hate feminism.
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And, and, and I think it's important for feminists to realize, now I'm not saying that we hate you
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as a person. I'm saying feminism, the ism. You need to understand that this is why people hate it.
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I mean, people really hate feminism and there, there's not a lot of in between. It's either you
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are a feminist yourself, uh, or you hate feminism. Almost nobody has an in-between view of it.
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And it's just, and it's, that's becoming more and more the case
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because it seems like your entire goal in life is just to find examples where you can make yourself
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the victim and then complain about it. And the problem is that all you can ever find in America
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are frivolous examples, except for the one or two really good examples of women, uh, being, or
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legitimate examples, I should say, of women being victimized, even systematically victimized, but you
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don't say anything about those. Where, for instance, women are told to shut up while men invade their
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bathrooms, locker rooms, and sports teams. Okay. That is a systematic victimization of women.
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Again, there's a, that's a good thing to focus on. Now you got a point there, but you don't say
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anything about that. Instead, you're focused on this. All right. Um, a couple other, uh, clips here.
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Michael Avenatti was charged yesterday with defrauding Stormy Daniels. He apparently stole a big chunk of
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her book advance, hundreds of thousands of dollars. Uh, now the fact that somebody called Stormy Daniels
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was given hundreds of thousands of dollars in a book advance is a travesty unto itself,
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but now Avenatti, uh, might be headed to prison for stealing some of it. Avenatti, of course, um,
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for a number of reasons has become a huge embarrassment to the left, to the Democrat party,
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and especially to the media. And I think it could be good at this juncture to remember how the media
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once hailed Avenatti as a savior of the Republic, literally. Now the Washington Free Beacon has gone
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to the trouble to compile this just to take a walk down memory lane of how the media treated Avenatti
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up until just a couple of months ago. And, uh, this is, this, this is gold. Watch this.
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He's Donald Trump's worst nightmare. Michael Avenatti.
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Don Meacham says he may be the savior of the Republic.
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I owe Michael Avenatti an apology. I've been saying enough for writing, Michael.
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I've seen you everywhere. What do you have left to say?
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I'm the only person right here Donald Trump fears more than Robert Miller.
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We think you guys are the tip of the spear that's going to take down Donald Trump.
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I hand it to her and I hand it to Michael Avenatti.
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But he has a bigger calling here that being a lawyer is minimal compared to what he's doing.
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No one has talked tougher directly to Donald Trump on TV than Michael Avenatti.
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And Donald Trump is afraid to mention his name.
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He gives Trump a run for his money more than anybody else Michael Avenatti.
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You are messing with Trump a lot more than they are.
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He has no doubt created sheer panic in Donald Trump's very fragile mind.
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Michael Avenatti is laying down the law as guest co-host.
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And is he really thinking about running for president?
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One reason why I'm taking you seriously as a contender is because of your presence on cable news.
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You look at the field of Democrats right now and Avenatti's the one who stands out.
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If they decide they value a fighter most, people would be foolish to underestimate Michael Avenatti.
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Look, I mean, we're going to continue to use the media.
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Yeah, in some ways it's low-hanging fruit to point to examples of the media embarrassing itself.
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But that is pretty devastating when you see all of that.
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And then when you consider, well, what is it about Avenatti that the media liked in the first place?
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And it goes back to their insane, delusional Trump hatred where they just can't see past it.
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And Avenatti was anti-Trump, and so they figured they simply embraced him for that reason.
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Speaking of insane, last clip I want to play for you.
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Speaking of insane, delusional Trump hatred, Jeff Daniels was doing a news interview yesterday.
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And he is very concerned, to say the least, about what will happen if Trump is re-elected.
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After the election, I was surprised at some of the people.
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You know, I said, can you believe this election?
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You know, and it's just, you didn't see it coming.
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There's, there's, there's, and there are reasons why.
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And I think there are people in the Midwest, between the coasts, who don't pretend, who don't know anything about, who don't care about this, who don't have time for this, who have to make a decision now.
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You have to decide whether, like Atticus, you believe that there is still compassion, decency, civility, respect for others, do unto others.
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All that stuff you guys believe in, and you still voted not for Hillary or for Trump.
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Because the, every, because your kids are looking up at you going, but he lies.
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And, and I think there are a lot of people in the Midwest who are going, it might be enough for them.
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We're going to find out if, you know, if the big gamble is to go all the way to November, 2020, which I agree, and lose, it's the end of democracy.
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It's the end of our democracy if Trump is reelected.
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Can I, can I say that, and I say this to both sides, I know it's fruitless.
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I know there's no point because it's going to continue, but I'm going to say it anyway.
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Can we just stop with every single election, people on both sides saying, if we lose, it's the end of democracy.
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Every election in my lifetime, there have been people insisting that on both sides.
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If we lose, it's the end of democracy, the end of democracy.
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Hey, seriously, guys, this time, if we lose, it really is the end of democracy.
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Oh, we lost and it wasn't the end of democracy.
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And somehow people continually take this doom saying seriously.
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No, I will say if Trump wins, it will not be the end of democracy or the end of our country.
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If Trump loses, it will not be the end of our country.
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I think that there will be negative side effects, not even side effects, not side effects.
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There'll be, there'll be many negative effects, profound negative effects to having Democrats in charge of the White House.
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And if they seize control of the entire government, you know, um, then I think a lot of bad things can happen.
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That doesn't mean that the country is coming to an end.
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It's possible to communicate your opposition to a political party or a political candidate and to talk about the bad things that might happen if this or that person wins without insisting that it's literally the apocalypse.
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I said I had a bunch of emails I wanted to get through.
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Before emails, one other, one other thing I wanted to mention, uh, because you see tragedy struck in our home yesterday.
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Um, the dog ate one of my wife's fancy decorative pillows.
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And now I've told you already about my wife's pillow obsession and how she spends $90,000 a year on pillows.
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Um, she has a whole fleet of decorative pillows for each new season.
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And I've told you about how our couch is covered in decorative pillows that you can't, you can't even sit on the couch without being sucked into the pillows and drowned.
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I mean, we, we have lost, uh, we, we had a house guest a few days ago who drowned in the pillows and unfortunately died.
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He's, he's buried under, under the pillow somewhere.
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And, uh, uh, but just because we have so many pillows doesn't mean that any one particular pillow is expendable in my wife's mind.
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So yesterday I knew it was bad news when I came downstairs being the only human being at home and I found the dogs, uh, standing triumphantly over a fancy pillow that he had just ripped to shreds.
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I see these videos online sometimes of dogs doing something bad and then you, and then, and then the video, they look guilty.
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And that's, what's funny is it's, it looks like they know what they did was wrong.
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My, I've never seen a look of guilt on my dog's face.
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There have been many circumstances where he should have guilt for what he's done, but no, he just, he, he looks excited about it.
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And, uh, now this, this dog does not know or appreciate just how often I cover for him.
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If he eats a kid's toy or a kid's stuffed animal, which he does all the time, then what I'll do is I'll throw the thing away.
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So the kids won't notice because everyone knows about little kids.
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The thing about little kids is, um, if they can have a toy and then forget about it, um, never play, they could, they could have a toy, forget about it, not play with it for three years.
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But if, if after three years they stumble across it and it's broken or they see their sibling playing with it, all of a sudden, now that toy is the most important thing in the world to them.
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So I can avoid that just by, uh, they, the dog destroys something.
00:29:44.840
I tried, but I can't because she'll know if she has 53 pillows laid out on the couch and she walks by the couch and there's only 52 on that couch.
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Why is there only 52 couch pillows on the couch?
00:30:04.460
So I, I, I did the, the only thing that the only other alternative was, um, for me to run away.
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And, uh, what I did was I just left the house cause my wife wasn't home yet.
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The reason why I did that is, uh, because I'm a coward, but number two, because.
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And this is really the, the, the serious thing I wanted to discuss.
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This is what happens with, um, with men in any house where there's a woman, a man and a dog.
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And I'm hoping maybe a female viewer or listener can explain this to me.
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What happens is that whatever the dog does, the man gets blamed for it.
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I don't understand why, but that's the way it works.
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So I could be upstairs and my wife would storm in and say, you know, the, you know, the
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That's not, I didn't conspire with the dog and tell him, Hey, you know what?
00:31:20.420
No, I admit that if I could get him to poop on command on the rug, I'd probably have him do
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it every once in a while just because it's funny, but I can't.
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And this is, I'm not, it's not, I'm not the only household.
00:31:31.620
This is a, this is a thing where men get blamed for what dogs do.
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It gets even weirder when you consider that we have a cat also, and the cat is not nearly
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as annoying or destructive, but sometimes she can be.
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And if she does something like vomits on the rug, I don't get blamed for that.
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So it's not just pets, it's specifically the dog.
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There is this link somehow where we become avatars of each other.
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I don't, I don't get it, but that's the way it works.
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I'm taking a few days off, so I'll be back on Wednesday and I wanted to get through as
00:32:14.780
I wonder if you could address an issue that came up for me recently.
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Last month, I was on a business trip out of town.
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And I found out I was experiencing ectopic pregnancy.
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The baby had implanted into the fallopian tube instead of the uterus and had already died
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I had to have emergency surgery that night to stop the extensive bleeding.
00:32:30.760
I'm grateful to be alive, but devastated to lose my baby after trying to get pregnant for
00:32:36.140
In the past couple of weeks, I've had a couple people accuse me of having an abortion.
00:32:42.740
I know this is wrong, but was shocked to hear that that many people think of this as an abortion.
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Would you address this issue and educate your larger audience?
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First of all, I'm sorry for your loss and everything that you went through, which is traumatic.
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The people accusing you of having an abortion are not only wrong, but they are horrifically
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inappropriate jerks who I hope you will ignore henceforward.
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If you can, I would probably cut those people out of my life saying something like that at
00:33:23.180
Not that there's ever an appropriate time, but I can't even wrap my head around it.
00:33:31.960
So if there are people close to you, then that's just terrible.
00:33:38.500
Um, so first of all, if you're bleeding internally, then yes, you need to have a surgery because
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No sane pro-lifer thinks that a woman should just go down with the ship, as it were, and
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die for the sake of a pregnancy that cannot possibly go to term.
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We should treasure, treasure all life, including our own.
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That's the whole point that we're making as pro-lifers.
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No, all life is, is, is, uh, infinitely valuable, including the woman's life.
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So we shouldn't throw our lives away for nothing.
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Choosing to bleed out during an ectopic pregnancy makes no sense.
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And it would be a suicidal decision in my view.
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And obviously, I mean, you did nothing wrong at all.
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Clearly, um, it sounds to me like you had a DNC procedure, which yes, is how they perform
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It's also what they do in the case of miscarriages.
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Um, some miscarriages, if the, the material from the pregnancy, for lack of a better term,
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Or in that case, they'll do a DNC, um, to avoid infections or any other, um, terrible
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This is, it's a, in that case, a legitimate medical procedure.
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And I'm sorry, again, for everything you went through.
00:35:20.180
Um, this is from Erica says, thank you for your show.
00:35:24.820
I noticed a few days ago that during your whole show, you were out of focus, but your
00:35:37.940
I was trying to make a point about how something, I was making some kind of artistic point.
00:35:46.240
Um, but the main point is that it's, it was not that I'm a massive, massive idiot.
00:35:53.760
Um, from Graham says, hi, Matt, what do you have against vegans?
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I just think number one, arguably it's immoral to not eat steak.
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I'm not saying I make that argument, but you could make the argument.
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I have had steaks that were so good that I think I had a moral duty to eat them.
00:36:20.140
And, uh, if you're offered a steak that good, I think maybe it's you, you're obligated to
00:36:32.700
I just think the vegan ethic is a little incoherent because it seems to me that if, if we are
00:36:38.180
superior to animals, if we have authority over them, if we take precedence over them, which
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is what I believe, then obviously it is justifiable to consume them.
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Uh, uh, we shouldn't, we shouldn't kill them for no reason.
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We shouldn't abuse them, but it can be justified to eat them.
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But if we're not superior, if we are equal to animals, if we're no better than them, which
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is what I think many vegans seem to believe, then we can't be expected to act any differently.
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And we have just as much a right to eat meat as they do.
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If we're just like them and vegans like to say, well, we're animals too.
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Why, why should we be held to a higher standard?
00:37:17.860
It seems to me that if you're holding us to a higher standard, then you're saying that
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But if we're superior, then I think that goes back around to, we can eat steak.
00:37:30.500
Um, this is from Christian says, Oh, great bearded one.
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I believe I know why everyone was so upset about the ending of game of thrones.
00:37:37.940
And that is that the writers gave the iron throne to the wrong person.
00:37:40.640
Every viewer in their heart of hearts knows that in fact, Matt Walsh has the only just
00:37:44.260
claim to any throne under heaven, fictional or not.
00:37:46.660
And the people are disgusted that these writers had the audacity to deny your basic right.
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We all await the day when you rise to power and bring justice upon these foolish writers.
00:37:54.860
On another note, I know that you have said that you do not find Pascal's wager to be
00:37:57.860
a convincing argument for faith because anyone convinced to belief by it will almost certainly
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However, I believe that this argument would better be suited for abortion.
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If we're wrong, we have inconvenienced people by our pro-life laws and efforts.
00:38:10.860
But if they are wrong, they have participated in the largest ongoing genocide.
00:38:15.180
I don't think this is our best argument, but it might be effective on someone who remains
00:38:20.240
I'd love to hear what you think and keep up the good work.
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First of all, you may think you can avoid the executioner by flattering me.
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As for Pascal's wager related to abortion, I think that's an excellent point, actually.
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Uh, yeah, when it comes to faith itself, I don't think Pascal's wager is a good argument
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But I do think that that sort of approach does make sense in other contexts.
00:38:51.680
Um, so it's kind of like, okay, so I, so, so even if we don't know whether the being in
00:38:56.280
the womb is a person or not, even though we do know, but let's say we don't, doesn't
00:39:00.920
it make sense to treat it like it is, um, if pro-lifers are wrong, then as you said,
00:39:06.020
we've, we have, we have, what have we done if we're wrong?
00:39:08.100
We have accidentally treated a non-person with more respect than it was due.
00:39:13.320
That's, we've accidentally given too much respect to this entity.
00:39:18.660
Um, but if pro-abortion people are wrong, then we have murdered 60 million people, which
00:39:27.800
So yeah, if you're on the fence, it seems like when you err on the side of not killing
00:39:33.040
people, yeah, I've made a similar argument about the idea, uh, that the unborn child is
00:39:41.320
There are some people who say it's not a person, it's a potential person.
00:39:44.820
And my point is similar that, okay, let's say that it is a potential person.
00:39:49.860
Let's say it's not a person, it's a potential person.
00:39:57.800
Um, but then why does it follow, how does it follow that we can then kill the potential
00:40:05.820
Would you not treat, why wouldn't you treat a potential person as an extraordinarily valuable
00:40:17.420
Uh, the analogy I've used, which doesn't work completely, but it almost works, um, doesn't
00:40:27.100
A little bit of a crude analogy, but the analogy I've used is a lottery ticket.
00:40:30.260
Imagine that you had a $50 million winning lottery ticket.
00:40:32.960
You're on your way to cash it at the lottery office and, uh, you've got it in your hand
00:40:41.360
The thing you have in your hand is just the potential for $50 million.
00:40:44.760
It is not itself literally physically $50 million.
00:40:52.960
But if I ran up and stole that receipt from you and destroyed it, you would react as though
00:41:01.040
And I could not make you feel any better by saying, no, no, no, it wasn't $50 million.
00:41:06.760
It was just a thing that was about to become $50 million, but it was not yet a $50 million
00:41:13.200
Well, in that situation, you would see no distinction.
00:41:15.420
Your response would be, yeah, okay, but it's basically the same.
00:41:21.300
It's not exactly the same, but it's for all intents and purposes, you just destroyed $50
00:41:32.220
This potential person was about to be a person.
00:41:37.680
So it's, they, even if I accept that argument, it still doesn't get you to yes,
00:41:47.340
Um, this is from Travis says, Matt, I agree with you that the age limit to buy tobacco
00:41:55.060
However, I do disagree with you on the idea that grown adults no longer view drinking as
00:42:00.100
From my experience, many adults in today's society are simply older versions of their
00:42:04.960
Their social media posts are filled with pictures of their current drink.
00:42:07.900
Their conversations are routinely centered around how they wish they currently had a drink.
00:42:11.340
Many of their weekend plans are also heavily centered around drinking excessively.
00:42:14.480
Perhaps I have this perception because I'm someone who doesn't drink alcohol.
00:42:17.780
So therefore finds the emphasis on alcohol by today's society to be misplaced.
00:42:21.240
But I tend to think the infatuation with alcohol continues into adulthood and is not
00:42:25.040
experienced slowly or solely by young or underage drinkers.
00:42:29.340
Um, my perception doesn't apply to all adults who consume alcohol.
00:42:35.900
However, I believe too many adults look to alcohol as an escape from the responsibilities
00:42:42.000
Lots of people have an unhealthy relationship with lots of different kinds of substances,
00:42:50.000
But my point, I guess, is that 16 year olds drink.
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If a 16 year old is going to drink, he is going to do it almost entirely because it's cool
00:43:02.980
And that's almost definitely going to be the reason with our current situation in society
00:43:11.640
If he's going to drink, that's going to be the reason, right?
00:43:18.280
Um, it's not like about relaxing with a drink at the, at the, at the end of a hard day.
00:43:24.760
It's just, he wants to, it's cool and he wants to do it.
00:43:28.000
And part of the reason why it's so cool in the 16 year old's mind is because it's forbidden.
00:43:34.560
With adults, I think there are a lot of unhealthy reasons to drink and plenty of adults exhibit
00:43:42.220
I don't think there are very many grown adults.
00:43:44.640
And yeah, I think that's a, when we talk about grown adults, that's almost an age we
00:43:48.900
When we say grown adults, we should be talking about 18 plus, but really I'm talking about like
00:43:55.920
Um, and people like that, I think there are a few of them that do it because it's cool
00:44:01.480
Uh, because as a grown man, I mean, if you go around bragging, 16 year olds will brag,
00:44:06.340
they'll talk about, oh man, I had a beer last night.
00:44:11.060
Uh, grown adults aren't going to do that as much because you would just seem like a loser
00:44:18.120
Um, and so I think that's the dynamic that we want to try to address.
00:44:27.280
Um, we want teenagers to learn healthy and responsible drinking habits.
00:44:35.720
We, and we want, we want to, we want to reduce the peer pressure.
00:44:41.220
And I think we also want to reduce kind of the cool factor a little bit.
00:44:46.660
And I think you can accomplish all of those things, not completely, but you could help
00:44:50.640
to accomplish all those things by lowering the drinking age, letting people do it younger,
00:44:57.160
If they start to see it, um, as, as I've been talking about this, I've heard from people
00:45:01.100
in other countries, as I mentioned before, where, you know, you go to Italy or whatever,
00:45:06.380
and it's not uncommon that you'll have a family dinner, you're sitting down for dinner, you
00:45:11.500
have a glass of wine and you have a 14 year olds that are just having a little bit of
00:45:19.700
And, um, so I think someone like that, they're going to be less likely to see it as this,
00:45:24.060
Ooh, it's this cool, mysterious, forbidden thing because for them, it's just normal.
00:45:29.860
And, uh, so I think that's where we want to get as a society, but instead we're headed
00:45:36.380
this is from Jake says majestically bearded dictator.
00:45:41.420
I've heard the argument among Christian conservatives that perhaps we should take the libertarian view
00:45:46.480
While my instinct, uh, was initially to say that we should work toward keeping marriage
00:45:50.600
legally defined the same way it is biblically defined.
00:45:52.840
I'm starting to think that's not an option anymore.
00:45:55.060
So it seems the argument is growing to abolish marriage in the legal world altogether.
00:45:59.280
Ben Shapiro essentially made this argument a couple of weeks ago.
00:46:03.120
Is this too much of a compromise for Christians or is this the right thing?
00:46:07.560
What are some implications I might not be thinking of?
00:46:09.700
I'm slowly becoming convinced it's the best way to go because then at least government doesn't
00:46:13.080
have the say in what makes, uh, what it thinks marriage is.
00:46:16.680
So it can't demand that marriage is between a person and any other person thing or things.
00:46:21.340
At the same time, I'm afraid it would encourage further sexual immorality if people take advantage
00:46:29.180
Um, yeah, I'm not the, the particular argument that you're talking about, Ben, that Ben proposed.
00:46:34.720
I don't, I'm not sure what it was, so I can't speak to that.
00:46:38.660
But from my perspective, I think marriage is the foundation of human civilization.
00:46:54.200
It is the fountain from which the family springs.
00:46:57.300
I don't think we can ever give up on it or on the definition of it or on defending it.
00:47:12.120
This is from, I don't think I got the name here.
00:47:16.680
Uh, I was wondering what your personal chili recipe was because my wife's or my high school
00:47:23.340
And seeing as how you seem to be a, to be a master at all things chili, I thought I might
00:47:27.740
learn something from the master himself and wow everyone there.
00:47:32.900
Well, I can't give you my recipe because it's a state secret, but a few tips, basic tips.
00:47:41.780
If you're doing chili, use no beans or minimal beans.
00:47:47.200
And I can't believe I'm even going to say this, but I think if you are making chili for a mass
00:47:52.900
audience, especially for chili novices, for the kinds of people who will be disturbed
00:47:58.880
by the lack of beans in the chili because they don't understand what real, real chili
00:48:02.320
is and will be so distracted by it that they can't even enjoy this masterful creation that
00:48:07.860
you have given to them out of the kindness of your heart, then in that case, throw a few
00:48:13.880
But, um, so minimal beans, uh, number two, the only things you should use to make the
00:48:20.340
base or, or broth, um, for your chili, if you, if you need liquid, if you need to add
00:48:26.040
liquid to the chili, there are only two things you should ever use, uh, beer and beef broth.
00:48:31.200
Those are the only two, never water, never tomato juice, tomatoes.
00:48:39.160
There is no reason for tomatoes to make an appearance in your chili.
00:48:47.920
Uh, number three, season, season, season, just tons of seasoning.
00:48:52.200
Uh, people, there's an epidemic in this country of people under seasoning their food, whatever,
00:48:58.100
just put the amount of seasoning that you think is appropriate and then do three times that.
00:49:03.500
Uh, and then finally, I, last tip I would say is remember that beef is the star of the show.
00:49:16.400
And I think that nothing wrong with putting peppers and onions in the chili, but this is
00:49:20.400
about the beef and everything should be in service to the beef.
00:49:25.040
Uh, everything should bring the, the, the mind and the heart and the soul back to the beef
00:49:33.500
So always remember that, uh, we will end on that inspirational note.
00:49:57.660
I'm Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan show.
00:49:59.900
You know, some people are saying that the last season of American democracy is not as good
00:50:04.900
When the show opened, we had characters like Thomas Jefferson and George Washington expounding
00:50:09.540
brilliant ideas and living lives of admirable courage and virtue.
00:50:13.420
Now we have a bunch of clowns doing reality TV and yet things are going well.