The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 268 - Cowardly Media Ignores Bombshell MLK Story

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, there is a bombshell story about Martin Luther King Jr. that the media

00:00:04.980 is completely ignoring. We will talk about that story, though. We're not going to ignore it. We're

00:00:09.100 going to talk about what it means, what we should do with it, how it affects his legacy. Does it

00:00:13.920 mean we got to start tearing down the Martin Luther King Jr. monuments? We'll talk about all

00:00:17.780 that. Also, the efforts to normalize pedophilia are full speed ahead in our society, and the latest

00:00:24.100 example of that is truly horrifying. I'll share that with you today on the show. Also, finally,

00:00:30.000 how many victimhood points do I earn now that I'm a cripple? That is a complicated subject

00:00:36.620 for me as a white man. The mathematics can get very complicated, but we will try to sort through

00:00:41.800 that and get to the bottom of that today as well on the Matt Wall Show. Okay, well, I have decided

00:00:51.020 to do the whole show from now on with my crutches in the shot the whole time, and I figure it will

00:00:57.400 make me a more, you know, sympathetic figure. Soften my image a little bit. I'm told that I'm,

00:01:03.240 you know, I need to soften it a little bit. So, I mean, you can't send hate mail to a cripple, 1.00

00:01:08.580 can you? So think about that. Whenever you're sitting down to write your hate mail, think about

00:01:14.020 this, okay? Think about the, I'm on crutches, you monster. My leg, ow, my leg, the pain, the pain, 0.99

00:01:22.780 curse you pain. Need to work on that a little bit. I, I'm usually a better actor than that.

00:01:28.920 I'm sorry. I'll just, I'll have to develop it. So the point is, anyway, the point is just feel

00:01:33.640 sorry for me because I am a victim. All right. Okay, let's, let's, I want to start with a story

00:01:41.740 that is, that is horrific, uh, breathtaking, shocking, certainly newsworthy, I would think,

00:01:51.080 yet it has been almost completely ignored, uh, by the American media, liberal and conservative

00:01:57.300 media. In fact, the story broke on, um, I think it was Sunday or Monday and here we are on Thursday

00:02:04.140 and still, I think most people in America aren't, aren't aware of it, have just simply have not heard

00:02:10.160 of it because almost no media outlet will touch it. Um, it's been one of the most, and I know this

00:02:16.700 is quite a statement, but I would say it's been one of the most spectacular displays of collective

00:02:21.780 cowardice by our media in a long time. And that is saying something I realized. Uh, the story I'm

00:02:28.920 referring to is about Martin Luther King Jr., a man who was canonized even before his death and

00:02:35.620 certainly after his death has been given the status of something that I think goes beyond even saint

00:02:41.320 to probably, uh, God. He's greater than a saint. He is, he's, he's more like an American God of sorts.

00:02:48.040 Um, and of course, no, no mortal being can live up to that billing. No human being can be a deity

00:02:55.720 or, or should be seen as a deity. Uh, and if reports, if the recent reports about Martin Luther King Jr.

00:03:03.000 are true, then that goes, especially for him. Uh, now it's always been known by those who care to

00:03:12.380 pay attention that MLK was a womanizer, um, an adulterer. So that, that part really isn't new.

00:03:20.020 He had many, many affairs with, with many women, probably fathered an illegitimate child, had

00:03:25.420 orgies in hotel rooms and that sort of thing. That stuff we knew, uh, at least informed people

00:03:32.320 knew about that. And I suppose that those are the kinds of flaws that though they are very serious,

00:03:39.980 I mean, these are very serious moral failings. If you, um, are not faithful to your wife,

00:03:46.580 uh, are in fact serially unfaithful to your wife, then you have failed as a man in a, in, in,

00:03:55.960 one of the most fundamental ways. Uh, you, if you have illegitimate children who you didn't even

00:04:02.840 accept as your own children, you failed as a father as well. So you failed as a failing as a

00:04:07.680 husband and a father is pretty serious failings. Um, but I think we, we, we generally accept,

00:04:16.620 um, those kinds of failings in historical figures and maybe for good reason, because if we start

00:04:22.180 requiring that all of our great historical figures also be chased, uh, and, and faithful to their

00:04:29.540 spouses, although that's not that high of a bar to get over, if we started applying that bar, um, 0.99

00:04:36.960 throughout history, I think we would find that we don't have very many people left to honor at all,

00:04:42.220 which maybe wouldn't be a bad thing, but, um, but I don't know. There's more to the story though,

00:04:50.160 with Martin Luther King Jr. It appears according to a new report, he wasn't just a womanizer. He

00:04:55.500 wasn't just an adulterer. He was also a violent abuser, um, and an enthusiastic and approving witness

00:05:02.480 of rape, uh, an accomplice in rape, perhaps even a rapist himself, depending on how we define our 0.98

00:05:08.880 terms. I mean, I think there are a lot of people would say if you're an accomplice in rape, then 0.55

00:05:12.400 you're a rapist. Um, so let me read now from the daily mail and I'm reading from the daily mail

00:05:19.180 because again, the American media won't touch the story with a 10 foot pole. In fact, if you go

00:05:23.880 right now to Google and try this, not right now, but after the show, uh, go Google Martin Luther

00:05:28.700 King Jr. Click on the news tab on Google and scroll down and look at the, the, the outlets that are,

00:05:35.420 uh, that have stories about Martin Luther King right now. Um, you're going to find stories in

00:05:39.940 places like business insider, daily mail, Christian post, the independent. You're not going to see a CNN

00:05:45.920 or NBC or, or one of those guys. So from the daily mail, um, just reading from the top of the article

00:05:52.840 says listening through headsets into the bugged hotel suite next door, the small group of FBI

00:05:57.440 agents couldn't quite believe the sordid events that were unfolding. It was January, 1964, and they

00:06:03.100 were hearing what sounded like a pastor raping a female member of his congregation while his boss 0.78

00:06:07.820 looked on laughing and offering advice. The voices of both men were familiar. According to the agents 0.97

00:06:13.760 sitting in the Willard hotel, Washington DC, the rapist was an assistant to civil rights leader,

00:06:18.780 Martin Luther King Jr. And his cohort, uh, or, and his chortling companion was the anti-racism

00:06:24.800 icon himself. The man whose I have a dream speech delivered a year earlier continues to expire act,

00:06:29.840 inspire activists to this day. Um, it goes on, but King's exalted status could be about to unravel

00:06:36.320 for according to a Pulitzer prize-winning biographer of King newly released FBI files reveal

00:06:41.960 that the binge drinking preacher had affairs with 40 to 45 women, uh, indulged in hotel room orgies

00:06:48.580 and even fathered an illegitimate child. The documents also paint a violent picture of King

00:06:53.240 whose lust could soon turn to anger. In May 1965, for example, one agent reported that the civil rights

00:06:59.440 leader had gone to the home of one of his female staff and torn her clothes off of her in an apparent

00:07:04.440 attempt to attack her. Um, now this biographer, uh, is David Garrow and he is not some crackpot.

00:07:12.700 He's a Pulitzer prize-winning biographer of Martin Luther King Jr. He's a respected literary figure

00:07:18.200 and that's who this is coming from. Uh, more a little bit later on in the article, it says,

00:07:23.440 according to Garrow's research, the FBI planted transmitters and two lamps in the Willard hotel that

00:07:28.680 King had booked for himself and his friends in January, 1964. When King arrived, his close friend,

00:07:33.880 Logan curse, the pastor of a Baltimore Baptist church invited King and his friends to meet women

00:07:38.880 parishioners of his church that he had brought to Washington with him. What followed was a disturbing

00:07:43.520 act of sexual violence. The group met in his room and discussed which, which women among the

00:07:48.640 parishioners would be suitable for natural or unnatural acts, said an FBI summary. Um, when one 1.00

00:07:54.660 of the women protested, the Baptist minister immediately and forcibly raped her. It added King looked on 0.95

00:08:00.480 laughed and offered advice. Uh, the following evening, say the files, King and his friends

00:08:05.800 participated in a sex orgy involving 12 people at the hotel, um, included acts of degeneracy and 0.88

00:08:13.840 depravity, uh, goes on from there. There was one woman who, uh, was, didn't want to participate. 1.00

00:08:22.400 She tried to shy away from it, but King pressured her and, and told her that it would help her soul 0.80

00:08:28.400 if she participated in the orgy. Um, some more details like that, uh, details with prostitutes 0.99

00:08:35.660 and so on. Um, according to his friend, Ralph Abernathy, King spent the last night of his life

00:08:43.900 with two lovers followed by an encounter with a third woman whom he knocked sprawling across his

00:08:48.680 motel room bed after an argument. Uh, and, uh, there are more sordid details from there, but

00:08:54.460 maybe you get the idea. This is a man who, according to, to this report is not only a

00:09:04.500 womanizer, but not only an adulterer, but not only the father of an illegitimate child, but more 0.99

00:09:09.440 importantly, someone who condoned and enjoyed watching rape, uh, which in my opinion does make 1.00

00:09:16.260 him no different from a rapist. Uh, there's, I don't, I don't see any distinction really between a 0.89

00:09:20.140 rapist and someone who, uh, cheers on, eggs on, gives advice to a rapist and watches. Well, you're

00:09:26.280 a rapist too. And this is really no difference. Um, as someone who abused women, exploited them, 1.00

00:09:32.080 someone who used his position as a pastor and civil rights leader to prey on women. 0.95

00:09:36.800 That's the picture painted. Now it'll be said

00:09:40.300 that these stories are false, that they were made up by racist FBI agents to smear MLK. And it's true that,

00:09:49.020 that, uh, there were plenty of people in law enforcement in those days and the government in

00:09:53.340 those days who didn't like Martin Luther King Jr. because they were racist and they didn't like

00:09:58.180 his agenda of what was his agenda. His agenda was civil rights, right? Equal rights. So that's,

00:10:04.040 that's true. And you have to take that into consideration. But the problem with assuming

00:10:09.320 that this is all made up because of racism is, well, there are a few problems. Number one,

00:10:13.760 these stories are not all coming from the FBI. King's own friends and acquaintances give us some

00:10:20.100 of these details. That bit about him, um, you know, knocking a woman down the night before his

00:10:25.840 death in a fit of anger. Well, that's from his friend. That's not from, that's, uh, that's,

00:10:30.840 that's, that's, that's not from, from FBI files. The FBI files, unfortunately, match up pretty well

00:10:38.440 with the picture that is painted of King by people close to him. So it's, it, it, it fits in.

00:10:47.000 So it's not as though you've got these FBI files and then everyone who knew King says,

00:10:52.640 no, it's not the man I knew. That's crazy. That's, he never would have done anything like that.

00:10:56.640 That's not what's happening here. Second thing is this report comes from, as I said,

00:11:01.020 a respected and Pulitzer prize winning biographer of Martin Luther King Jr. Not somebody with a political

00:11:05.680 agenda, not a white nationalist, neo-Nazi, something like that. Um, and number three,

00:11:11.840 Garrow accessed FBI summaries of the tapes. The tapes themselves have been sealed until 2027. It's

00:11:19.080 going to be another eight years before we get to hear these tapes ourselves. Um, but the significance

00:11:26.000 of that is if the tapes are fabricated to smear Martin Luther King Jr., then why would they be

00:11:33.040 sealed for 60 years? You know, you don't, you don't, if you're going to, if you're going to make

00:11:38.580 up fake tapes to smear somebody, you don't file them away for a generation to make sure that nobody

00:11:46.060 hears them. That doesn't make any sense. The fact that these things have been on their lock and key

00:11:50.140 and have been a state secret for so long, uh, that only lends credibility to them because why,

00:11:57.340 why else would we, uh, be locking these tapes up? If the tapes just contain Martin Luther King being a

00:12:08.660 great guy, uh, and if there's a lot of great stuff in there about what a, what a wonderful duty was

00:12:13.660 behind the scenes, then I think we would have heard these tapes a long time ago, like 50 years ago,

00:12:18.620 60 years ago, but that's not the case. So while of course we can't say for sure, uh, we can't say

00:12:27.780 that we know for sure just as we can't really know anything for sure about any historical figure. I

00:12:32.540 mean, we can, we're only, we're only dealing with degrees of probability whenever we're talking about

00:12:38.280 any detail of any historical figure's life because most of us weren't there to see any of it, right?

00:12:44.700 But, uh, so that's the case, but it does seem like these stories about King are very credible

00:12:50.100 and there is very good reason to believe them. Unfortunately, I don't want to believe them.

00:12:57.060 Why would I want to? I don't, I don't think anybody wants to, uh, but, and I wouldn't want to believe,

00:13:03.800 I really, it doesn't even matter who he would, he could have just been some random Joe Schmo. I 0.94

00:13:08.180 wouldn't want to, but I don't want to believe this kind of stuff about anybody, whoever,

00:13:11.340 matter who they are, uh, because it's, it's, it's horrible stuff, but there is good reason

00:13:19.220 to believe them. Good factual reason. So then what then, you know, what do we do with it?

00:13:27.240 Well, I'll tell you what we don't do with it, uh, or what we shouldn't do with it. We shouldn't

00:13:32.600 ignore it. We shouldn't bury it. We shouldn't pretend that it never happened. Uh, we shouldn't

00:13:38.360 continue along worshiping the man while plugging our ears so that none of these details can interfere

00:13:44.060 with our, uh, devotional practices. We shouldn't do that. And we shouldn't do that because it's not

00:13:49.920 honest. Uh, it's cowardly. It's wrong. It's just wrong. So do we go the other way? Do we rip down

00:14:00.760 his statues? Do we take his name off of schools and streets and all of that? I mean, Martin Luther King's

00:14:05.580 name and likeness and his statues and monuments are everywhere. So do we get rid of all that stuff?

00:14:13.860 Well, if we're adopting a single standard, if we're adopting a single consistent standard, then yes,

00:14:23.820 uh, then that's exactly what we do. If Thomas Jefferson, if Thomas Jefferson's murals have to

00:14:29.940 come down, if Columbus statues have to come down, if Robert E. Lee comes down, if all of these men

00:14:35.220 get that treatment, then why should MLK be exempt? There's just no good reason to exempt him.

00:14:42.800 There just isn't. Sure. Their, their sins are not the same. Uh, when we're talking about these other

00:14:49.440 guys I mentioned, their sins are racial. Uh, they were racists who in some fashion either condoned or

00:14:56.020 participated in slavery. MLK wasn't that. Um, he was the opposite of that when it comes to the racial

00:15:01.740 issue, but are his sins really better? I mean, what's worse slavery or rape? What's a, so what's

00:15:11.280 worse to condone and cheer on slavery or to condone and cheer on the rape? I mean, is that a discussion

00:15:16.840 you want to have? Because I don't, do you really want to get into ranking them and having that

00:15:21.720 argument? Yeah, well, it's a rape, but it's not as bad as slavery. Uh, I would say that they are both 0.77

00:15:27.000 hideously evil. Um, I, I don't know if much more of a moral distinction can be drawn between them.

00:15:35.700 And, uh, so I think we just leave it at that. They are hideously evil acts.

00:15:40.960 And so it can be said of Thomas Jefferson and Martin Luther King Jr. that they both

00:15:46.480 condoned and participated in hideously evil acts that involved the, uh, exploitation, dehumanization,

00:15:57.620 um, and violent abuse of other human beings. That's what we can say about both of those men.

00:16:07.720 And if that's the standard, you know, if, if, if we have the one standard and we're using the

00:16:13.820 standard that results in taking down Martin Luther King statues and murals, then yeah,

00:16:21.020 MLK's monuments have to come down and his, his names have to come off the schools.

00:16:26.660 There is another option. Okay. The other option is that we adopt one standard the other way

00:16:34.720 that we keep the MLK monuments and we keep his names on the schools and on the streets.

00:16:40.520 And we also keep the Jefferson monuments and we keep the Columbus monuments and we, we keep all of

00:16:46.220 the monuments. Um, and we start to develop a mature, intelligent, nuanced view of these men.

00:16:56.200 We stop idolizing them because no man should be idolized. We stop worshiping them because no man

00:17:04.400 should be worshiped meant MLK included. We don't ignore their flaws because no man should have his

00:17:11.100 moral failings ignored. Uh, we, we allow criticism because every man deserves criticisms for the, for

00:17:17.980 the evil that he commits, even if he's dead, that doesn't make it any better. Um, if, if, if MLK

00:17:24.740 condoned and participated in rapes and orgies and things like that, just because he's dead,

00:17:31.020 that doesn't change the evil of those acts and they still deserve to be condemned. But, uh, we also

00:17:38.220 recognize the greatness of their achievements. And we recognize that these are all men who did

00:17:44.400 things that we could not do and, uh, things that had to be done, things that changed the course of

00:17:50.560 history. Uh, we recognize that we honor these men because if they had never existed, the entire

00:17:59.640 world would be different, uh, and probably for the worst, you know, uh, and that's why we honor

00:18:10.060 them. And if that's the standard that we're, if that's what we're doing now, then yeah, we, then

00:18:18.340 this, this information about MLK, it doesn't, it doesn't change anything with respect to his

00:18:22.880 monuments and all that stuff, but it also can't change anything with that, with these other

00:18:26.880 monuments either. And I think that's the way it's gotta be. You know, when, when, in my opinion,

00:18:35.680 um, that third option is the way to go where maybe we just, we start being honest and, uh, and we,

00:18:48.260 we develop, as I said, a nuanced view of these historical figures,

00:18:53.340 which I think allows us to learn a lot more about history and a lot more from history.

00:19:04.800 Um, and it, it just makes the historical pursuit a lot more fruitful when you're not worried anymore.

00:19:14.460 And this is, this is one thing that I've realized about because, because, you know, I enjoy reading

00:19:18.080 about history. Um, but very often when we pick up a book of history, no matter who it's about or

00:19:25.560 whatever historical period it's about, we go into it with preconceived notions. We go into it with

00:19:31.040 bias biases. Uh, we go into it with a sort of a narrative in mind that we're trying to support.

00:19:37.860 And I think we all do that, uh, very often when it comes to historical subjects,

00:19:41.940 what I've found is it's just, it's a lot more fruitful. It's a lot more interesting.

00:19:48.240 Uh, it's a lot more worthwhile if you can manage to just put all that to the side

00:19:52.400 and actually try to understand what really happened and who these people really were.

00:19:57.760 And to be willing to, to have your childish notions about these people destroyed and then

00:20:06.280 replaced with not an equally childish and simplistic notion on the other side, where they go from,

00:20:11.940 uh, gods to demons. No, not that, but replaced with a, a view of these people as human beings,

00:20:19.720 as complicated human beings who were capable of incredible acts of, of courage, but also

00:20:27.400 incredible acts of evil at the same time, because that's, that's what it means to be human.

00:20:33.720 And I'm okay with that. I'm okay with looking at history that way. I'm just, I'm not okay with

00:20:40.640 giving Martin Luther King Jr. A pass while not giving anyone else a pass. You just, we can't do

00:20:46.800 that. I'm sorry. Uh, I admire what he did for the cause of civil rights as much as anybody else.

00:20:53.380 But if the man was an abuser and he condoned rape, then that needs to be discussed. And that is

00:20:59.980 something that is part of his legacy, whether we like it or not. And that's got to be talked about

00:21:06.740 in the schools. When the subject comes up in history, that stuff needs to be talked about

00:21:10.540 because that's part of who he was. Apparently it was a really significant part of who he was.

00:21:16.240 All right. Um, let's stay with British media here for a minute. Uh, I was just giving them credit for

00:21:25.940 running the MLK story, but, um, now I have to condemn them for, for this.

00:21:35.400 It's the start of the summer holidays. And for this age gap couple, a chance to unwind.

00:21:41.020 I love camping because, uh, it's peace and quiet. I'm Andy and I'm 47. And I'm Beth and I'm 19.

00:21:52.880 Their 28-year age gap may make them look like father and daughter, but they are every bit a married couple.

00:22:02.280 Now, my dearly beloved is going to set up the doghouse. When I get told off, I'll have to go and live in the tent for a bit.

00:22:08.480 Andy was originally a friend of Beth's mum and, over the years, became close to her children, too.

00:22:15.620 We were all, like, one happy family. But, needless to say, I didn't know that Beth was, like,

00:22:22.280 getting these thoughts that she wanted me to be a happy man forever sort of thing, you know.

00:22:27.520 But once she reached the age of 16, Beth wanted to take their friendship to the next level.

00:22:32.840 The age doesn't really bother me. It never has done. I don't see him as an old man or my dad or anything like that.

00:22:41.260 He's just sensitive. Like a big teddy bear.

00:22:44.160 Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. 1.00

00:22:46.820 I was concerned. What people would think 16, 40, it's a big gap, you know, it's a generation gap sort of thing.

00:22:57.640 So, it's like, what are people going to think?

00:23:00.140 However, when Andy realised Beth was serious, he decided to give this controversial relationship a go.

00:23:06.320 Oh, my days. Right, just leave it. Leave it. Leave it. Leave it.

00:23:09.340 I'm getting all aerated with you today. I'm getting all stressed.

00:23:15.960 That's not going to work.

00:23:17.300 Chill. Just chill. Chill. It is what it is.

00:23:21.260 And once they'd fallen in love, Andy became determined to give Beth everything she had ever wanted.

00:23:30.760 It'll do.

00:23:31.460 This is Timmy, and he's two. And this is Conway, and he's one.

00:23:37.560 I've always wanted to make a family or to have a family. So, I just thought Andy would be the perfect one to do so.

00:23:45.860 That's a show called Age Gap Love on Channel 5.

00:23:51.640 As you can see there, they give us the sort of whimsical, heartwarming story of a 45-year-old man who began dating, in quotes, a 16-year-old girl who he'd known since childhood.

00:24:05.760 Channel 5 calls this Age Gap Love.

00:24:09.140 Another name for it is grooming and abuse.

00:24:12.600 The girl was groomed by a predator, and then she was abused. 0.93

00:24:15.820 That's actually what happened there.

00:24:17.120 Now, she's 19 today. So, he's, what, 47?

00:24:22.940 Now, if he, as a 47-year-old, had just met a 19-year-old, like they just met online or something, and then they decided to get together.

00:24:34.480 Now, that would be weird in my, the really big age gaps, I do find them weird, really no matter who the people are.

00:24:42.780 But it wouldn't be criminal or evil or anything like that.

00:24:46.360 A 19-year-old adult woman is free to date 47-year-old men if she wants to.

00:24:53.900 But that's not what happened here.

00:24:55.720 See, that's the important point.

00:24:57.160 What happened here is that, according to that story, he groomed a young girl over the course of her childhood.

00:25:03.160 He was a friend of her mother, knew her as a child, and then made his move when she was 16, and he was 44.

00:25:08.800 So, that's a completely different situation.

00:25:11.540 If you don't think that there's a movement to normalize pedophilia in our society, then think again, because that's what this is right here.

00:25:19.340 Now, yeah, this isn't technically pedophilia.

00:25:21.440 Technically, pedophilia is the abuse by an adult of a child who I think is under, has to be under 12 or something.

00:25:27.500 That's the legal definition of pedophilia.

00:25:29.360 But this is a story of an adult grooming and abusing a child regardless, and as such, it is the normalization of pedophilia.

00:25:36.840 Normalization always happens this way.

00:25:39.120 This is what normalization is.

00:25:41.260 Okay, so if there's going to be a process, a movement of normalizing pedophilia, it's not going to start with someone presenting us a story of a 45-year-old man with his 9-year-old child bride and saying,

00:25:54.220 Hey, isn't this great? Let's cheer this on.

00:25:56.940 It's not going to start that way because that's too far, too fast.

00:25:59.460 Everybody will recoil from it.

00:26:01.180 So, it's the old boiling a frog in the pot type of thing.

00:26:04.500 It's always going to start on a lower temperature.

00:26:07.060 It's gradual.

00:26:07.700 So, it's always going to start with things that, you know, it starts with something that is where you see it and you go,

00:26:14.200 Okay, that's weird. That's gross.

00:26:16.980 It's not against the law, I guess.

00:26:19.580 And then, gradually, it gets more and more depraved.

00:26:25.060 But the whole trick here among the normalizers is when they start with that first thing where you're like,

00:26:31.480 Yeah, it's normal.

00:26:32.260 You know, it's gross.

00:26:33.440 It's weird.

00:26:34.720 You know, it's eh.

00:26:36.300 They start with that and if they can kind of get you to say,

00:26:39.100 Well, who are you to call that gross?

00:26:42.020 And they kind of work on you there and if they can get you to say,

00:26:45.060 Okay, yeah, maybe that's fine.

00:26:46.900 Then you move on to the next thing.

00:26:48.800 And your first reaction is,

00:26:50.280 Oh, no way.

00:26:51.960 And they work on you there and try to get you to say,

00:26:54.000 Okay, yeah, maybe that's fine.

00:26:55.240 And then, just you gradually go down the slope.

00:26:59.440 That story you saw there, it's not at the beginning of the slope.

00:27:02.120 This is like we're midway slope, right?

00:27:04.280 I'd say we're about midway to full-on pedophilia is okay type of thing.

00:27:10.780 I'd say we're about midway to that point in our society.

00:27:15.160 The drag queen story hours, these child drag queens that you see,

00:27:30.140 That's also about midway to the slide.

00:27:33.920 And it's actually much further down.

00:27:35.840 It's much closer to the full-on normalization of pedophilia.

00:27:40.740 So that's what's happening.

00:27:44.200 All right.

00:27:44.440 Before we get to emails,

00:27:45.480 I, let's see here.

00:27:50.720 Okay.

00:27:51.200 I have a question before we get to,

00:27:54.220 I just wanted to mention one thing.

00:27:55.780 You know, I said at the top

00:27:57.300 that I am a victim,

00:28:00.900 as you can see.

00:28:02.500 So you should feel sorry for me because I'm crippled.

00:28:05.960 But here's the question that I've been wondering.

00:28:08.420 Maybe you can help me out with this.

00:28:09.560 And you can always email me to let me know what you think.

00:28:12.680 MattWalshow at gmail.com.

00:28:14.620 My question is,

00:28:16.080 how many victim points do I actually acquire for being crippled?

00:28:20.700 It's kind of a complicated subject.

00:28:23.620 Because obviously I start in a hole

00:28:26.160 because I'm a straight white male.

00:28:27.780 So the way I figure the math is kind of like this.

00:28:30.320 Being white means that I'm at negative 25 victimhood points.

00:28:34.960 Male means another negative 25. 0.95

00:28:38.000 And then straight is another negative 25.

00:28:40.300 So I'm in about a 75 point hole just to begin with

00:28:45.140 because I'm a straight white male.

00:28:46.820 But I'm disabled now.

00:28:49.480 So that earns me back, I would say, 25.

00:28:52.860 Yet you would point out that my disability is probably temporary.

00:28:55.600 So that detracts 10, meaning I'm only at plus 15 against minus 75, right?

00:29:02.260 So that puts me at minus 60.

00:29:04.880 Yet, if my Achilles heels wrong,

00:29:07.660 or if I get surgery and something goes wrong with the surgery,

00:29:09.920 there is a possibility that I might not ever walk normally again.

00:29:13.180 Now, that would be, I think, worth 25 on top of the plus 15.

00:29:20.840 So I'm at plus 40 against negative 75, which works out to about negative 35, right?

00:29:27.580 But wait, I'm also part negative Native American.

00:29:31.740 I am part Native American on my mom's side, I think, maybe.

00:29:37.200 Actually, I just made that up.

00:29:38.640 But it's, I mean, there's a great, there's a possibility that I'm part Native American.

00:29:44.140 So let's just say that I am.

00:29:45.800 You can't prove that I'm not.

00:29:48.100 So that's got to be worth something.

00:29:49.520 And I'm also definitely part Irish.

00:29:51.920 And I know being Irish isn't worth much, 0.99

00:29:54.080 even though the Irish are among the most persecuted people on the planet.

00:29:57.020 Historically, they're also white, so it doesn't count for much.

00:29:59.120 But I think it all adds up to maybe,

00:30:02.940 I mean, that's got to be worth another plus five.

00:30:05.120 I mean, it's got to be five victim points there, right?

00:30:07.260 That combination.

00:30:07.960 The fact that I might be part Native American,

00:30:10.140 and I am definitely part Irish.

00:30:13.340 I think I'm part Australian.

00:30:15.420 Yeah, that doesn't really count at all.

00:30:18.160 But that's got to be worth at least five.

00:30:19.740 So I think it all adds up to maybe, let's say,

00:30:22.660 plus 45 against minus 75, which equals negative 30.

00:30:27.420 So I'm still not at victimhood status,

00:30:30.300 but I'm doing better than a lot of you. 0.98

00:30:33.860 I am closer to victimhood status than most of you straight white devils. 1.00

00:30:38.320 That's my point that I'm trying to make. 0.97

00:30:41.080 And so you need to acknowledge that and have some deference for that.

00:30:45.820 That's all I'm saying.

00:30:47.300 Okay, let's check in with emails.

00:30:49.440 MattWallShow at gmail.com.

00:30:51.320 MattWallShow at gmail.com.

00:30:52.860 This is from Sarah.

00:30:54.220 Says,

00:30:55.300 Hi, Matt.

00:30:55.780 I know you have lived and visited various places on the East Coast.

00:30:59.560 Our young family of six is headed out that way later this summer for the first time.

00:31:02.980 We love learning about the areas we visit and doing things that aren't typically touristy types of activities,

00:31:07.640 but are more hidden gems or local favorites.

00:31:09.840 That being said, we also have four kids ages ranging from 3 to 12 years old.

00:31:14.360 We don't want to bore them to death in museums all day.

00:31:16.960 Do you have any recommendations of places to visit in the D.C., Maryland, Delaware, Virginia Beach region that would be good for kids of various ages?

00:31:25.340 Also, any family-friendly restaurants, cool ice cream shops, anything else unique or interesting to see?

00:31:29.780 Hi, Sarah.

00:31:31.880 Well, I appreciate the question.

00:31:34.200 It's kind of a large area.

00:31:35.640 It's like hundreds of miles, so I would need to know more specifically where you're going to be.

00:31:39.900 Like, you need to give me your exact street address so that I can answer that and publish it everywhere.

00:31:47.940 No, I just, if I knew more specifically where you're going to be, I could probably help you out more.

00:31:52.220 I will say, if you're going to be on the Eastern Shore, Ocean City is kind of the spot there.

00:31:59.480 Now, that's very touristy, but that's, in terms of Eastern Shore, you want to go to the beach.

00:32:03.220 A lot of stuff for kids to do there.

00:32:05.740 If you're looking for a less touristy Eastern Shore beach spot than maybe Bethany Beach, a little bit further up north.

00:32:12.160 Again, I don't know where you're going to be.

00:32:13.440 If you're looking for something more historical in the Virginia area, then you could always check out Mount Vernon or Monticello, speaking of Thomas Jefferson.

00:32:21.280 Listen, there are, now, if this is your first time on the East Coast, and if you like history, then I think you've got to check out at least a couple of the Civil War battlefields.

00:32:32.760 Because, you know, the Eastern Theater of the Civil War, if you're going to be in Virginia, then I think you've got to go, the Virginia, Maryland area, you've got to go check out some of those.

00:32:41.920 But, again, it depends on where specifically you're going to be.

00:32:45.920 If you're a little bit further west, then maybe Antietam.

00:32:51.060 I went there with my wife last year, and that was a great stop.

00:32:55.820 Of course, up further north into Pennsylvania, you could go to Gettysburg.

00:32:59.480 If you are further west and you want scenic views and nature and everything, I would go, the Shenandoah Valley is beautiful, the Leray Caverns.

00:33:11.480 Annapolis is a nice little city of Maryland, the capital of Maryland, a nice historical city.

00:33:16.140 If you are in D.C., then definitely take your kids to the Bible Museum.

00:33:19.420 I know you said no museums, but check out the Bible Museum.

00:33:22.040 The Museum of Natural History.

00:33:23.320 I mean, look, yeah, if you've never been to the museums in D.C., they are great museums.

00:33:31.200 And Baltimore has, for my money, and I say this as I'm a big aquarium fan.

00:33:37.660 I love aquariums, and I've been to many aquariums in my day.

00:33:41.720 Baltimore has the best aquarium, certainly in the country.

00:33:45.760 And I don't think I'm the only one with that opinion.

00:33:48.460 So I would go there if you're around that spot.

00:33:51.160 And if you're in Delaware, there is a nice ice cream spot in Lewis, a town called Lewis, Delaware.

00:33:58.500 There's a dairy farm that does its own ice cream.

00:34:01.340 But that's kind of far from D.C., so it all depends on where you're going to be.

00:34:04.660 But have a great trip.

00:34:06.740 From Chuck, he says,

00:34:09.100 Hey, Matt, you recently talked about how the word Nazi now means anyone who has a political opinion I disagree with.

00:34:14.640 I think this development is a symptom of a broader problem.

00:34:17.540 Our society has lost any notion of gradations.

00:34:19.900 I see this in our society's excessive swearing, as well as the desire to live a life of highlights on social media.

00:34:26.940 Everything is either zero or 100 with no levels in between.

00:34:29.940 I was wondering what your take was on this.

00:34:31.760 Do you see something similar, or am I overgeneralizing?

00:34:34.920 I love the show, and I pray that you don't become discouraged with the hateful messages you receive.

00:34:38.340 Yeah, I totally agree.

00:34:41.640 And I think that this kind of plays into what we talked about during the show about historical figures and how we need to develop more nuanced views of these historical figures.

00:34:53.040 I think we need to develop more nuanced views in general about everything.

00:34:56.880 And that would certainly make our discussions, our conversations, much more worthwhile and fruitful.

00:35:04.260 Because right now, it's just hard to talk about anything.

00:35:07.480 Because everybody is exactly what you're talking about.

00:35:10.140 Everyone is.

00:35:11.340 You're either for or against.

00:35:12.900 It's either great or it's terrible.

00:35:15.800 And there's just, there's no room in between.

00:35:18.820 And that's the case, even though, at the same time, everyone likes to say all the time how, well, it's not black and white.

00:35:27.940 There's a lot of gray area.

00:35:29.260 So we like to talk about gray areas.

00:35:31.420 But then, and we like to try to find gray areas in places where there actually isn't any gray area.

00:35:37.240 Because sometimes it is just wrong or right.

00:35:39.960 Right?

00:35:40.780 But then, when it comes to most conversations, no, people don't want gray areas.

00:35:44.760 They want everything to be very clear.

00:35:46.200 Which is especially frustrating, I can tell you, for me as a writer, when I try to write a piece, and I'm dealing with a controversial subject, and I write a thousand words about it, trying in great detail to explain my perspective.

00:36:02.920 Well, nobody wants to read it.

00:36:04.400 What they want is, give me the one sentence summary of your point of view.

00:36:10.440 And, but it's just, not every point of view can be summarized in a sentence.

00:36:14.360 Sometimes it takes 50 sentences.

00:36:16.880 Sometimes, you know, it takes more than one sentence sometimes.

00:36:19.500 But people don't want that.

00:36:20.980 A lot of it goes down to intellectual laziness.

00:36:23.380 And, anyway, that's, I agree with you.

00:36:25.780 That's a good point.

00:36:26.740 This is from Riley.

00:36:27.560 Says, you mentioned your recent injury on your show, so I just wish to let you know I'll be praying for a speedy recovery for you.

00:36:32.560 I will admit, however, that I'm disappointed that the story to go with it wasn't very cool.

00:36:36.480 Stay strong.

00:36:37.520 Thanks for being a great brother in Christ.

00:36:40.620 Respectfully, Riley.

00:36:41.280 Riley, I agree that it's not a cool story.

00:36:47.280 I'm disappointed in that.

00:36:48.740 I always imagine that when eventually I ended up in an emergency room for my own issue, it would be for a really awesome reason.

00:36:58.660 And that was just not the case.

00:37:00.960 You know, I always imagine, like, my first time in an emergency room, it would be because I was fighting off armed invaders, maybe with a sword or something.

00:37:13.400 I mean, I always thought it would be something like that.

00:37:16.780 But, instead, it was just a pickup basketball game.

00:37:19.400 And that is just a tragedy.

00:37:21.860 This is from John.

00:37:22.740 Says, hey, Matt, it's John.

00:37:23.780 Big fan of the show.

00:37:24.480 Each episode is a sigh of relief from this crazy world.

00:37:26.720 That said, I wanted to get your opinion on the Hitchens razor.

00:37:30.300 That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

00:37:34.620 It's Christopher Hitchens, obviously.

00:37:35.680 The reason that I bring this up is because I have found it is a very powerful tool to combating the left due to so many of their claims being completely baseless.

00:37:43.120 Specifically, I've utilized it in combating the pro-choice argument since the Alabama ban.

00:37:48.440 The no uterus, no opinion has been kicked into high gear. 0.84

00:37:51.060 This has been my argument most commonly.

00:37:53.400 We have agreed that it is not acceptable to kill an innocent human being.

00:37:56.180 So, implicit in your argument for abortion is the premise that the unborn fetus is not a life.

00:38:01.020 But, simply, I don't believe you.

00:38:02.980 The burden of proof is on you.

00:38:04.400 To prove your assertion, to put it on me, is to shift the burden of proof, which is a logical fallacy.

00:38:09.000 So far, I am most commonly attacked for finding God or upholding the patriarchy.

00:38:13.880 To which I reply, first I come for women's abortions rights. 0.80

00:38:17.220 Then it will be their suffrage. 0.79

00:38:19.040 Winky face.

00:38:19.880 So, that's sarcasm.

00:38:21.260 I know this is a long email.

00:38:22.540 I thank you for getting to it if you do.

00:38:23.940 I really want to know any flaws in this argument and if there is any way I can improve it.

00:38:29.000 Yeah, I think the Christopher Hitchens, the Hitchens razor is interesting

00:38:31.680 because, obviously, that's something he formulated mainly as an attack on theists.

00:38:36.400 And what he's claiming is that, well, you are proposing the existence of God without evidence

00:38:41.160 and so I can just dismiss it without evidence.

00:38:43.540 Now, I disagree with Hitchens razor in that case because I think that there is evidence for God.

00:38:49.120 So, we're not proposing it without evidence.

00:38:50.660 But I agree, in general, in principle, with the principle, that if someone does propose something

00:38:56.840 without evidence, then, yeah, it can be dismissed without evidence.

00:38:59.660 Because if you are making an assertion, any assertion, if you're coming to the table proposing

00:39:05.060 something for people to believe as true, whatever it is, then you have to be able to give people

00:39:11.380 a reason to believe it.

00:39:12.500 And the reason can't just be that you said it because that's not a reason.

00:39:15.940 The fact that it was said is not, in itself, a reason to believe it.

00:39:19.200 There has to be some other reason.

00:39:20.540 If you can't produce that reason or explain what it is, then, yeah, everyone at the table

00:39:24.960 can just say, whatever.

00:39:27.340 And they're perfectly within their rights to do that.

00:39:29.220 And it's rational to do it because you haven't given them any reason to believe it.

00:39:34.720 And so, can that be applied to the abortion argument?

00:39:37.520 Sure, I think it can be.

00:39:38.920 Because I would say that the people claiming that the unborn child is not a person, is not

00:39:45.660 a human, have produced no evidence to support that assertion.

00:39:51.600 In fact, all the evidence is against them.

00:39:54.600 We have a lot of evidence to bring to bear to prove that it is.

00:39:59.860 Open up any biology textbook about the stages of human development.

00:40:04.720 And what you're going to find is that the fetal stage is a stage of human development

00:40:09.860 because it's a human.

00:40:11.960 So, they have no evidence, which means that, right, their argument can't be taken seriously.

00:40:17.440 So, sure.

00:40:19.660 This is from Mike.

00:40:20.480 Says, the first time you mentioned becoming a beekeeper, I couldn't help think about how

00:40:23.120 dangerous it is to have a beehive around three small children.

00:40:25.620 I'm sure you've carefully weighed the risks and made sure the hive is in a safe and secure

00:40:28.640 location.

00:40:29.480 But as a parent, does it ever cross your mind that something can go seriously wrong that ends

00:40:33.100 up with one of your kids getting hurt?

00:40:34.720 How do the logistics of this beehive setup work that ensure your family's safety?

00:40:42.280 Also, who will tend to the beekeeping duties now that you're on crutches?

00:40:46.740 Yeah, Mike, beehives are very safe, actually, because honeybees, as opposed to, say, wasps

00:40:52.940 or something, honeybees are docile creatures. 0.97

00:40:56.200 They're not aggressive.

00:40:57.020 They're not going to go after you and attack you.

00:41:01.220 They're not really interested in what you're doing.

00:41:04.280 They're just interested in tending to the hive.

00:41:06.460 So, they'll go right around you.

00:41:07.720 And I mean, you can open up a beehive.

00:41:10.080 And some of the bees will come out to check, see what's going on.

00:41:13.380 But most of the bees will just continue on their business.

00:41:16.980 They're not going to come after you.

00:41:18.040 I don't recommend opening up a beehive if you don't have a bee suit.

00:41:21.460 But so, it's really not a danger at all.

00:41:24.480 Of course, we've told our kid.

00:41:25.440 They know where the hive is.

00:41:26.400 I've taken them out.

00:41:27.060 I've shown them to them.

00:41:28.620 They've come out when I've and stood at a safe distance when I've opened up the hive

00:41:33.440 just to see everything.

00:41:36.320 And so, you know, you just, you teach the kids.

00:41:39.340 It's like anything else.

00:41:40.440 It's like the chemicals that are under your sink.

00:41:43.700 You know, you teach them.

00:41:44.560 Don't open under the sink.

00:41:46.280 And, you know, you just have to acknowledge his power in this situation.

00:41:50.100 As far as who will tend to the hive now that I'm on crutches, that's a good question.

00:41:54.420 I'm thinking that my six-year-old son is ready to take the dive.

00:41:57.700 I don't have a bee suit that will fit him.

00:41:59.400 So, he's going to have to really go for it.

00:42:02.060 But, like I said, safety first.

00:42:05.060 Finally, from a different Mike, it says,

00:42:07.700 If a president committed a crime, the proper procedure would be to impeach him,

00:42:11.020 then charge him with the crime.

00:42:12.620 So, no president is above the law.

00:42:14.360 It's just a different process and one that I agree with.

00:42:17.020 Imagine that Trump could be charged with a crime.

00:42:19.220 There's no doubt the Democrats would be charging him with jaywalking, littering,

00:42:22.080 disturbing the peace, anything they could just to make him spend his whole term in court

00:42:25.260 fighting bogus charges.

00:42:26.740 Therefore, the president is not above the law.

00:42:28.660 It's just a different process meant to curtail frivolous prosecution.

00:42:31.880 You don't have to be guilty to be charged with anything.

00:42:34.100 Thank you for agreeing with me in advance and have a nice day.

00:42:37.160 Mike, I, yeah, I said yesterday I think that presidents should be able to be charged with a crime.

00:42:43.540 But you raise a good point.

00:42:45.660 And so, I think that I was wrong.

00:42:47.940 And that you are right.

00:42:50.420 Doesn't happen very often.

00:42:51.460 So, enjoy the moment.

00:42:54.760 Savor it.

00:42:55.600 But, yeah, I think I was wrong about that one.

00:42:58.660 And I will change my point of view. 0.81

00:43:01.340 I hope you're proud of yourself, though, for humiliating me, a cripple, a man on crutches. 1.00

00:43:11.380 And you would dare humiliate me like this in front of my entire audience. 0.86

00:43:16.560 Outrageous.

00:43:16.960 Well, thanks for the email.

00:43:18.720 And thanks, everybody, for watching.

00:43:20.680 Godspeed.

00:43:21.160 Today on the Ben Shapiro Show, Robert Mueller issues his farewell address and Democrats move toward impeachment.

00:43:36.220 That's today on the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:43:37.560 Thank you.

The Matt Walsh Show - May 30, 2019

Ep. 268 - Cowardly Media Ignores Bombshell MLK Story

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