The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 273 - What's Wrong With A Straight Pride Parade？

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, there is a straight pride parade, a straight pride parade planned in 1.00

00:00:05.040 Boston, and we're told that this event is offensive and stupid, but if it's stupid to 1.00

00:00:10.360 have a straight pride parade, then isn't it stupid to have a gay pride parade too? 1.00

00:00:15.720 Also, the LGBT lobby has not stopped harassing Jack Phillips and Masterpiece Cake Shop. 1.00

00:00:21.120 They just continue going after this guy. We'll talk about the latest in that ongoing saga,

00:00:25.520 plus your emails today on the Matt Walsh Show.

00:00:30.000 Welcome to the show, everybody. I want to talk about this straight pride parade that's 0.99

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00:02:52.180 get paid. Okay, so I will say that personally, I agree for the most part with the people who say that

00:03:03.640 the upcoming Straight Pride Parade, maybe you heard about in Boston, is silly. You know, I agree that 1.00

00:03:12.320 it's a silly thing. It's not something that I would be personally interested in attending.

00:03:19.000 Though I do, I appreciate some of the, you know, I appreciate especially the intentional irony of

00:03:24.880 Milo Yiannopoulos being the grand marshal of the parade. He's, of course, very openly gay, 0.85

00:03:31.300 and yet he's leading the Straight Pride Parade, which is kind of a tongue-in-cheek move by the

00:03:36.400 organizers. And I appreciate that. You know, I do. But I think overall it's a silly thing. And I think

00:03:43.200 I am on stable intellectual ground in calling the parade silly because I have also said the same 0.84

00:03:52.560 thing about gay pride parades. In fact, in my opinion, I think parades in general are kind of

00:03:58.800 stupid. I don't get the attraction to parades of any kind, really. Parades are basically festive 0.99

00:04:05.900 traffic jams. That's what they are. Especially if you go to a, if you've ever been to a small town

00:04:10.520 parade where they don't even have floats or anything. And for the most part, the parade mostly

00:04:15.760 consists of just local business owners riding their company vans, you know, through the parades.

00:04:22.400 Yeah, you really are just watching traffic go by. And people sit there for two hours and just watch

00:04:27.260 the traffic go by. And I don't, you know, I don't get it. I personally don't get it. But I will

00:04:32.300 acknowledge that there are some justifiable reasons to throw a parade. Okay? Like if you win a war,

00:04:41.940 okay, you throw a parade. If you win a Super Bowl, you throw a parade. The point is, if we're going to

00:04:48.760 have a parade to announce our pride in something, it should be something that we actually accomplished.

00:04:57.000 It should be an achievement of some sort. Well, then it makes sense to have a parade.

00:05:02.360 Or if not an achievement, it should be a holiday, you know, an actual day of celebration, like a

00:05:09.240 Thanksgiving parade or a Christmas parade. But your sexual orientation is not an achievement. 0.99

00:05:18.280 Neither is it a holiday. Okay? You haven't accomplished anything simply by being attracted to

00:05:24.120 one sex or another. And the thing is, um, the, the, you know, LGBT folks, they're the ones who insist 1.00

00:05:32.100 that being gay is not a choice. It's biological. You were born that way. Well, then that's even more 0.89

00:05:38.720 reason not to have a pride parade because it's just, if it's something you're born with, then you might as

00:05:43.340 well have a parade, uh, you know, a, a, a right handy, a right, you know, a right hander parade that

00:05:49.740 you're, you're proud of the fact that you're right handed. It just, if that's the case, it makes even

00:05:54.460 less sense. You might as well have a parade for people with brown eyes. I mean, what's, what's the 0.99

00:05:58.300 point? Um, now it's argued of course, that the real purpose of a gay pride parade is to resist and

00:06:06.300 protest and, uh, stand up against the persecution of homosexuals. Heterosexuals are not persecuted for

00:06:14.540 being heterosexual as the argument goes. So therefore a heterosexual pride parade is pointless,

00:06:19.220 but there is a point to the gay pride parade. But if that's the point of a gay pride parade,

00:06:24.040 then why do we call it a pride parade? If it's really a protest, then why don't we call it a protest 0.83

00:06:29.860 or a rally or a demonstration? You know, but you don't hear that. They don't, they don't say it's a

00:06:34.600 gay pride protest. They say it's a gay pride parade. And if it is a protest, why do they hold 0.73

00:06:41.840 these quote protests in places like San Francisco and Los Angeles and New York rather than, uh, Iran

00:06:51.160 or Saudi Arabia? It seems that these pride parades are held in precisely the places where gays are not 0.84

00:06:58.620 persecuted. So all of the evidence indicates that gay pride parades are indeed gay pride parades. That

00:07:07.200 is, they are parades that give gay people the opportunity to announce their pride in being 0.97

00:07:13.560 gay. You know, if you go to the New York city pride parade website, it calls their pride parade, a pride

00:07:19.980 celebration. There's another LGBT website that's a, that says, you know, gay people should quote,

00:07:25.520 feel pride in being gay. So that, that puts it pretty plainly. And if you agree that gays should 0.98

00:07:34.100 feel pride in being gay, if gays should feel pride in their gayness, um, and that parades ought to be 0.92

00:07:41.200 held across the country to celebrate that pride and to, uh, you know, create these spaces for self 0.80

00:07:48.520 expression for gay people or whatever, then it's obviously ludicrous to, and it's a double standard

00:07:55.080 to insist that heterosexuals aren't entitled to a similar celebration. Why, you know, straight people, 0.81

00:07:59.780 why aren't they entitled to a celebration of their straightness? And the double standard becomes even

00:08:05.660 more pronounced and obvious when you take into account the whole, as we talked about last week,

00:08:12.260 you've got this whole, uh, buffet of sexual orientations that have now attached themselves

00:08:19.140 like barnacles to the broader LGBT ship. So gay men and lesbian women, aren't the only one, 0.92

00:08:26.540 only ones celebrating their sexual orientation. Um, there are also bisexuals and transsexuals and

00:08:32.140 pansexuals and asexuals and graysexuals and demisexuals and gender fluid people and gender

00:08:37.260 questioning people. Is it reasonable to say that all of these people can and should publicly declare

00:08:42.760 their pride, but not heterosexuals? I mean, is it reasonable to say that all of those people? Yeah,

00:08:50.040 yeah, sure. But gay people, they got pride. Lesbians have pride. Asexuals have pride, transsexual,

00:08:55.240 all of them, but no, not straight people. No, you're, you're not supposed to have pride. 0.93

00:08:59.640 And going back to the persecution thing, if this is really about persecution, then why are we

00:09:05.180 including pansexuals? I mean, when was the last time a pansexual was persecuted? I mean,

00:09:10.340 have you ever heard of a pan, you ever, have you ever seen a, a sign up on a business somewhere

00:09:15.840 saying pansexuals, not allowed. Get out of here. You're pansexuals. No, I wouldn't know how to 1.00

00:09:21.320 persecute a pansexual if I wanted to. I, I, I, you know, if I went out looking for a pansexual to 0.91

00:09:27.180 persecute, I wouldn't be able to do it. So no, again, this is not about persecution. This is about

00:09:33.100 boasting of your sex life. And then if that's the case, then why can't straight people boast

00:09:39.120 just the same? Now, as I said, I'm not in favor of anyone boasting about this sort of thing,

00:09:45.900 but I'm even less in favor of arbitrary rules that allow some people to boast while telling other

00:09:54.300 people to keep quiet. The double standard, the inconsistency to me is the worst thing.

00:09:59.800 I hate that more than anything else. And the left is famous for making rules like that.

00:10:06.260 And, um, so maybe on second thought, the straight pride parade is a little bit more than a silly 0.73

00:10:13.980 stunt. Maybe the point is simply to defy the left's rules just for the sake of defying them.

00:10:20.940 Why are they doing the straight pride parade? Well, because, uh,

00:10:25.640 because they're not supposed to, I guess maybe that's the point. And if that's the point, then,

00:10:33.720 you know, maybe there could be some value in it after all, even though I still wouldn't go myself.

00:10:38.500 See the message that the left has been sending, uh, to straight white males for years now has been,

00:10:46.900 you're not allowed to take pride in anything while everyone else celebrates their sexuality and their

00:10:54.320 race and their culture and their heritage and their history. You aren't allowed to celebrate 1.00

00:10:58.900 anything about yourself. If you do, you're a homophobe or you're a racist or you're a, uh, 0.99

00:11:05.460 you know, you're ethnocentric or whatever. No, the only thing you're allowed to feel about yourself 0.97

00:11:11.360 is guilt and shame. That's been the message for decades. And eventually, you know, people get

00:11:18.700 tired of it. People get tired of the guilt and the shame. People get tired of the, the double standards.

00:11:26.400 I think it's as simple as that. There's been, um, a lot of discussion recently about radicalization,

00:11:35.840 especially the radicalization of young white heterosexual men. Now, much of what the media

00:11:42.180 calls radicalization is really just people deciding that they're conservative and that's not radicalization.

00:11:48.480 That's just someone exploring ideas and coming to conclusions and forming opinions. There's not

00:11:54.760 nothing radical about that, but, uh, there is some actual radicalization going on. I acknowledge that

00:12:01.980 there are radical groups. Uh, there are radical, there's a radical fringe out there on both sides

00:12:08.220 where indeed, um, especially on the right, you have angry young white men who, who end up in these,

00:12:16.880 these groups that that is happening. Maybe the straight pride parade is an example of that. I don't 0.98

00:12:22.580 know. I don't know a lot about the group that's holding this thing. I have no idea. Um, but

00:12:28.120 whatever radicalization is, perhaps we should consider the possibility that young white men are becoming

00:12:38.700 radicalized in part because of the guilt and the shame and the blame that is constantly heaped on

00:12:46.820 them by the culture. They are born the villains. They are born into an identity that the culture tells

00:12:54.040 them is tainted. And while everyone else is told to celebrate their identity, these men are told,

00:13:00.760 uh, the opposite to apologize and repent and feel guilt. And after a while it wears on you and you,

00:13:08.540 you know, you take these men, you add in on top of the shame and the guilt from the culture,

00:13:14.340 on top of all the cultural situation, you add in a lack of, of good male role models in the home,

00:13:20.320 a lack of, uh, of, you know, attentive fathers, perhaps you add in a school system that caters to

00:13:27.120 girls while, uh, you know, telling boys that they're diseased and have ADHD or whatever, 0.87

00:13:33.400 just because they act like boys take all those factors together. It's not hard to see how some

00:13:39.080 of these guys go down, uh, the radical path, but, and that's not making excuses or, or anything like

00:13:47.320 that. That's trying to understand how we ended up where we are now and why people make the choices

00:13:56.080 they make. And if, you know, the left loves to complain about angry white men, oh, they're angry

00:14:04.120 white men, angry white. Have you ever stopped at that? Like, what are they angry about? Have you 0.97

00:14:10.040 stopped to consider that? Does it, I mean, you don't want them to be angry. Have you just stopped for a

00:14:16.040 second to think like, what are they angry about? And thing is, even when you, everything I'm saying

00:14:23.100 now, there are going to be people who respond, oh yeah, sure. Straight white, straight white males

00:14:26.920 are persecuted. Yeah, whatever. See, that attitude is exactly the problem. I'm not, I'm not talking

00:14:32.680 about persecution. This is not, you know, that's not the word I'm using. Um, but shame and guilt.

00:14:41.100 Yeah. There's, there's just no question about that. That is a fact. It's just a fact in our

00:14:46.460 culture that if you are a straight white male, you are told to feed you, you are, there is shame and

00:14:51.620 guilt heaped on you from a young age. It's just, that's, that's call it whatever you want to call

00:14:55.320 it, but that's what happens. And it has a negative effect on people. That's the lesson here.

00:15:03.180 So maybe leftists could consider that what you're doing, it's not working. The white guilt thing,

00:15:08.120 it's, it's, it is having the opposite effect from what you intend. It's not causing white people

00:15:14.700 to be more open and tolerant and everything. It's not, it doesn't, it doesn't, people don't work that

00:15:19.600 way. That doesn't work. Um, but we're not allowed to talk about this. Of course, when discussing the

00:15:29.440 real or perceived sins of young white men, the only thing we're allowed to do is blame them. 0.64

00:15:33.520 And, uh, and so the cycle, the cycle continues. All right, let's, uh, on a somewhat related note

00:15:42.540 here, let's check in with Jack Phillips and a masterpiece cake shop. Now this is a sort of the

00:15:52.940 never ending saga. And let's, I'm going to read now from a daily wire report just published on the

00:15:58.860 site yesterday. It says masterpiece cake shop is again under fire. Now the subject of a third

00:16:04.120 discrimination lawsuit, alleging that owner Jack Phillips discriminated against a customer by

00:16:10.520 refusing to make a cake for an unspecified offense. Uh, Phillips, of course, one of the United

00:16:16.160 States Supreme court after suing the Colorado human rights commission that punished him for refusing to

00:16:21.520 provide a wedding cake for a same sex wedding in Denver. Um, the latest, uh, skipping ahead a little 0.81

00:16:27.660 bit. The latest lawsuit was filed Wednesday in Denver district court on behalf of Autumn Scardina

00:16:33.720 by attorneys, Paul Greeson and John McHugh. Scardina is the same woman. Uh, I believe actually this is a

00:16:41.620 quote trans woman as a man we're talking about who filed the previous lawsuit, alleging discrimination

00:16:47.580 after masterpiece cake shop denied her request for a cake celebrating gender transition. Um,

00:16:54.260 then the reports on the newest lawsuit are vague on the theme of the pastry in question. They have

00:17:00.080 said so far only that Scardina requested a birthday cake, but previous filings indicate that Scardina has

00:17:05.920 gone out of her way on several occasions to request cakes that master peeps cake shop clearly would not

00:17:11.560 make. Um, okay. So this is, I guess the specifics of this, this is the third lawsuit now against, uh,

00:17:18.920 this is the third time that the LGBT lobby has come after Jack Phillips third time. I mean the,

00:17:26.540 the, the bullies that went after him now we can't really say that he won in the Supreme court. He

00:17:30.780 didn't lose. So the fact that he didn't lose maybe as you could say is a victory, but certainly the,

00:17:37.560 the bullies that were going after him, especially the human rights commission, they lost. They got

00:17:42.620 scolded by the Supreme court for, um, for targeting, uh, Jack Phillips and for having clear anti-Christian

00:17:51.160 bias. So that was the first one. Then this Autumn Scardina character, who again, I believe is a,

00:17:59.140 is a man because this was someone who wanted a, you know, wanted a cake to celebrate his gender

00:18:05.040 transition into a woman. Um, filed a lawsuit over that. And now we have another, I guess, apparently

00:18:11.960 another, a different cake that this person wanted, but it, this is clear. This is, this is a troubled

00:18:19.520 person who has been harassing Jack Phillips for months. Um, there are some, let me find some of the

00:18:28.400 details of the other cakes that this person wanted. Um, Newsweek reports that the baked goods at the

00:18:35.620 center of Scardina's previous complaints to Colorado authorities included a cake to celebrate Satan's

00:18:40.340 birthday with quote cheesecake frosting. That would feature a large figure of Satan licking a nine

00:18:47.620 inch black dildo, an actual working model that can be turned on before we unveil the cake. Okay. 0.99

00:18:55.760 Okay. So this is a person that that's one of the cakes that Scardina requested. And that was turned

00:19:02.800 down, wanted a gender transition cake, which isn't even a thing, right? I mean, that's not a gender 1.00

00:19:09.620 transit. Like, so you got a gen, a gender transition, which by the way is impossible. 0.97

00:19:14.300 There's no such thing as a gender transition. You can't transition from one gender to another. So, 0.99

00:19:18.740 uh, but I, you know, I can't continue doing the scare quotes around every word that I use when

00:19:22.660 talking about this case. So just, just fill in the scare quotes yourself. She had a, he had a gender 0.76

00:19:28.640 transition cake, um, which is just not, not really even a thing. Obviously a cake that he came up with

00:19:36.780 because he wanted to be turned down. Then you've got a cake for Satan's birthday. And then another

00:19:42.040 cake, this is somebody, he is harassing Jack Phillips. This is harass, this is anti-Christian

00:19:50.180 harassment. The only reason why this bully, uh, keeps going after Jack Phillips is because he knows 0.91

00:20:00.860 that Jack Phillips is a Christian. That's the only reason. So the lawsuit should be the other way. 0.87

00:20:08.820 The discrimination is happening the other way with this case. There's just no basis to this

00:20:15.480 whatsoever. This is a completely baseless discrimination complaint. And, um, anyone who

00:20:21.820 takes it seriously is, knows what they're doing, knows they're being dishonest. Uh, and, and by the way,

00:20:30.540 that, that applies also to the original lawsuit that got all this going in the first place.

00:20:37.880 I just don't believe that those two gay men who came to, um, Jack Phillips looking for a cake for

00:20:43.800 their gay wedding. Uh, I just don't believe that it was a coincidence that they happened to go to Jack

00:20:50.600 Phillips who was known as a devout Christian and who was known as someone who turned down cakes if he

00:20:58.580 didn't want to do them on religious grounds. He turned down Halloween cakes, uh, and other cakes

00:21:04.120 like that, you know, raunchy, you know, uh, bachelorette party or bachelor party cakes. He turned

00:21:10.580 those down. He was known for doing that. And these two gay men just happened to pick him as the guy to 0.99

00:21:16.520 make their gay wedding cake. And when he turned them down, they just so happened to be ready. You know, 0.77

00:21:21.720 they had the lawyer on standby. They went to the human rights commission. Yeah. Okay. That was a

00:21:25.080 sure. Right. It was just totally innocent and coincidental. I'm sure. No, this is all,

00:21:31.160 it was a setup from the beginning. This is a setup too. Uh, they, they won't leave him alone.

00:21:38.380 And this is how the LGBT lobby operates. If they get you in their sights, they will not leave you alone. 0.99

00:21:45.360 They will just keep coming after you and keep coming after you. The LGBT lobby. These are the 1.00

00:21:50.920 biggest bullies in America. These are some of the most vicious people in America. And when I say that, 0.99

00:21:58.540 I am talking about the LGBT lobby, these left-wing gay activists specifically. I'm not talking about

00:22:04.860 gay people in general. I'm talking about, uh, people like Adams, Adams Cardena and the two gay men that 0.85

00:22:11.340 came after Phillips originally, those, those people that go out prowling on the lookout for Christians 1.00

00:22:20.000 that they can entrap and then try to ruin their life. It is vengeful, vicious, cruel. These people are 0.90

00:22:30.320 bullies and nothing more. All right. Before we get to your emails, we need to talk briefly. Well, I guess 0.99

00:22:38.380 we don't need to talk about this, but we will, uh, these videos have been popping up online recently.

00:22:43.080 They are absolutely terrifying and I'm sorry. I have to subject you to this, but I, I, I do have

00:22:51.300 to share a couple of them with you, uh, just because I had to see it. So that means you have to see it

00:22:56.900 a couple of people as well. So first, uh, watch this.

00:23:00.600 Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. I want to go 80 disadvantaging ummm. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.

00:23:14.600 We are truly, sister, about my loyalty. We can't be beat on friendship. It's all the doubt for me. Boom, boom. I want to go 80 pie. Boom, boom. That's all the delta pie. Boom, boom. I want to go 80 pie. Don't you? Boom, boom. I want to wear white and blue. Boom, boom. And wear the diamond, too. Boom, boom. I want to go 80 pie. Don't you? We are truly, sister, about my loyalty.

00:23:43.380 We can't be beat on friendship. It's all the doubt for me.

00:23:47.620 My God. My God. But it gets worse, okay? But watch this one.

00:23:58.040 Hi, I'm Maddie, recruitment vice president. I'm Haley, chapter president. I'm Jean Marie, formal recruitment chair.

00:24:05.560 We've been waiting for you all summer, and we're so glad you're finally here.

00:24:13.380 Boom, boom. I want to go 85. Boom, boom. And maybe that ain't no lie. Boom, boom. I want to go 80 pie. Don't you? Boom, boom. I want to wear white and blue. Boom, boom. And wear that diamond, too. Boom, boom. I want to go 85. Don't you? Boom, boom. I want to go 85. Boom, boom. That's all the delta pie. Boom, boom. I want to go 85. Don't you?

00:24:36.820 Okay, you know what? I changed my mind. Actually, white people are bad. It turns out that, yeah, okay. You know what? Down with white people. 0.61

00:24:45.220 That is just, that is a, that is a, that's a vision of hell right there. That, I mean, I imagine that walking up to the gates of hell is like that. You just walk up to the gates of hell, you see that. 1.00

00:24:57.160 That's how you're greeted, by a gaggle of white sorority girls in matching t-shirts chanting their witch's spell at you. 1.00

00:25:03.660 So, um, it is bone chilling stuff. And I, and it only further supports my view, which I've held for a long time, that sororities and fraternities are cults that are always just one step away from Jonestown.

00:25:18.660 And, and, and, and if, if you want proof, I mean that you have exhibit one and two right there. Um, really, really terrifying.

00:25:26.180 All right, let's go to, let's try to get away from that and try to erase that from our minds as quickly as we can.

00:25:33.740 We'll go to emails, mattwalshowatgmail.com, mattwalshowatgmail.com.

00:25:38.840 Um, here's a, here's a long one, but I, I, I love emails like this.

00:25:46.640 Kind of someone describing their intellectual journey, or I guess as the media would put it, this is a story of radicalization.

00:25:54.100 So let me read this one. This is from Chris says, hello, Lord and savior, future theocratic dictator of this world.

00:25:59.320 My name is Chris. I am a 19 year old Chilean conservative male living in Canada.

00:26:05.280 I redeem myself to your wisdom today to get some insight into two main questions to which I can't seem to answer myself since I do not possess your intellectual capacity.

00:26:14.000 Great beginning.

00:26:14.820 Um, I used to be an atheist, socialist, left-wing, pro-abortion psycho, since I used to think that if my girlfriend got pregnant,

00:26:23.080 I would like to be able to get rid of that responsibility to which abortion is very convenient. 0.84

00:26:27.500 After listening to one of Ben Shapiro's anti-abortion videos in which he shows the picture of a baby and says,

00:26:32.980 this is a little game for the left. Where in this picture is it okay to murder this baby?

00:26:37.540 Um, that made me realize how evil I was, uh, how evil that I was supporting.

00:26:44.200 And I became instantly pro-life. Now I advocate pro-life at college where I study, which is overwhelmingly left-leaning.

00:26:51.220 Um, I also used to be a socialist because I thought it was unfair there were people driving Ferraris in the same place in which there were homeless starving.

00:27:00.500 I have by now realized that there is a lot of personal decisions that both of these people took that brought them to where they are now.

00:27:07.680 After noticing that I was wrong in socialism and abortion, I really wondered in what else I was wrong.

00:27:12.740 I started listening to Ben Shapiro more often and seeing his debates.

00:27:15.900 And it turned out that all the points he was making sounded kind of rough, but it was common sense.

00:27:20.300 Later on, I discovered you through the Daily Wire.

00:27:23.120 And since I was by then a conservative atheist, I agreed with virtually all your points, but religion. 0.92

00:27:28.780 Despite being raised a Catholic Christian, uh, every time you talked about religion, I was like, nah, I will take the moral lesson from this since it is correct, but I will not attribute it to God nor religion. 0.90

00:27:40.560 A year ago, I became a conservative.

00:27:42.340 I was wrong in every single opinion I had two years ago when I was left-leaning everything.

00:27:46.540 The only thing I wasn't really able to believe in was God.

00:27:50.300 But I agreed in everything else with you.

00:27:52.300 But I said to myself, since I had been wrong in virtually everything else, I will assume I was wrong as well in God's existence.

00:27:57.400 I am willing to open myself to that possibility.

00:28:00.320 I joined a Bible study group at college and started reading the Bible.

00:28:03.320 I started praying.

00:28:04.480 And now I'm getting some courage to start going to church.

00:28:06.920 I can't say I believe in God by now because I'm still uncertain, but I am living my life as if God were real, since I have been wrong in everything else.

00:28:14.240 Do you think what I am doing, since I am not certain about God's existence, is wrong?

00:28:18.300 Do you think this kind of resembles Pascal's wager?

00:28:20.920 And if it does, do you disagree, since I know you don't like that argument?

00:28:24.580 An atheist argument that I heard you addressing is who created God.

00:28:28.180 If everything has a creator and nothing exists on its own, this is an argument that I used to make when I was atheist, fully convinced that God was not real.

00:28:35.720 However, I didn't really understand your explanation, and I would like to ask if you could elaborate a little bit more on that one, or on simple words, and then a bit more complicated to get the general idea.

00:28:45.740 Assuming that God exists, God bless you, Matt.

00:28:54.000 I say that from the bottom of my heart, there's so many people that see you as a role model, as the father they never had, and you have brought so many people from the deepest holes of depression.

00:29:03.420 Consider me one of them.

00:29:04.600 Thank you.

00:29:05.000 God bless you and your family.

00:29:06.460 Hope the surgery went well, and you're not in too much pain.

00:29:08.480 Okay, Chris, well, thanks for that email and for your intellectual consistency and courage to radically change your position like that.

00:29:19.700 To be willing, and I think a lot of people don't understand this or appreciate this, to be willing to even consider the possibility that you're wrong, not just about one issue, but about, as you say, almost everything.

00:29:36.460 That takes an enormous amount of courage.

00:29:38.960 And most people don't have it.

00:29:42.720 And there are a lot of people, I think, conservative Christians, who are basically right about most of the things that they think, but they didn't earn those opinions, really, or come to those conclusions on their own.

00:29:57.980 They were just born into it, which is fine.

00:30:00.120 I mean, I'm trying to raise my kids that way.

00:30:03.140 But, so it's good.

00:30:04.640 You know, we want to raise our kids that way.

00:30:05.940 That means that they were raised the right way, in my opinion.

00:30:08.860 But, it does mean that, you know, I think, and I'm the same way.

00:30:15.800 I was born into these, at least most of these conclusions.

00:30:21.200 And I had to kind of, but I had to take all of them and put them to the test and say, are these, yes, this is what I was taught.

00:30:29.700 This is how I was raised.

00:30:31.320 But that doesn't mean it's true.

00:30:32.620 It's quite possible to be raised the wrong way or to be told the wrong things growing up.

00:30:37.580 And so I had to take all these points of view and subject them to scrutiny.

00:30:41.940 And there are some things where I decided, you know, no, no, I was wrong about that and I had to change.

00:30:45.960 But the point is to come up against the possibility that you're wrong on such a fundamental level is a scary thing.

00:30:57.980 Most people aren't willing to consider it.

00:30:59.380 So I just, you know, I think we need to appreciate the courage there.

00:31:02.820 It's very, very inspirational.

00:31:03.860 To your question about are you doing the wrong thing by going to church and exploring religion, even though you don't believe in God, the answer to that is absolutely not.

00:31:16.640 Now, I have, when I talk about Paschal's Wager, I've said that I don't think that's an effective argument on its own, in and of itself, to convince someone to be a Christian.

00:31:28.800 But I think what you're doing here is not Paschal's Wager.

00:31:31.740 What you're doing here is you're exploring the possibility of God's existence.

00:31:37.500 You're exploring religion.

00:31:39.840 You're opening yourself up to that truth.

00:31:43.040 And that is, again, a brave, courageous thing to do.

00:31:47.600 I fully encourage you to continue on that path and to keep asking questions.

00:31:54.740 And if you come up against a question about God that doesn't make sense to you, then keep exploring it and keep asking.

00:32:03.160 Don't just put it to the side and say, ah, it doesn't matter, because it does matter.

00:32:07.040 And so that's what you're doing here with this question about who made God.

00:32:11.700 It's a good question.

00:32:13.140 So let me try to take another crack at it.

00:32:15.260 The answer is that nobody made God.

00:32:19.200 I mean, that's the answer.

00:32:21.520 Obviously, that has to be the answer for a theist, because if somebody or something made God, then that person or that thing would be God.

00:32:31.200 And the being that we call God would be just a very powerful created being, much like an angel or something, but not God.

00:32:39.880 So in order for it to be God, then this has to be an uncreated being, sort of by definition.

00:32:47.040 One way or another, if there is a God at all, you must reach a point, an end point.

00:32:52.860 First, you must reach an uncreated creator, an uncaused cause.

00:32:59.360 Part of the basic argument for God's existence is precisely that such a being must logically exist.

00:33:07.020 Because there seem to be only three other options aside from God.

00:33:11.160 If we're trying to figure out, you know, how is it that things exist at all?

00:33:17.300 Where did all this come from?

00:33:18.880 Why is there something rather than nothing?

00:33:20.720 You know, the classic question.

00:33:22.860 Well, the theists have an answer.

00:33:24.680 But if you don't want to go with the theist answer, it seems to me that there are only three possibilities.

00:33:29.360 One is that we live in the midst of a never-ending, never-beginning chain of causes.

00:33:36.220 You could trace the effects back, and every effect will have a cause.

00:33:40.520 But the chain of cause and effect would go on forever into the past, never reaching a starting point.

00:33:46.500 So that's one possibility that excludes God.

00:33:49.220 But it seems that that option doesn't really make sense.

00:33:54.240 Because the whole world, all of reality in that case, becomes kind of like a man lifting himself into the air by grabbing his feet.

00:34:04.000 You know, if you can imagine a guy bending over and grabbing his feet and lifting himself into the air, of course, that's impossible.

00:34:10.320 A chain of causes and effects that is not itself caused by anything would seem to be like that.

00:34:19.140 Would seem to be like a, like a, you know, just a thing that's sort of just hovering in the air, unsupported by anything.

00:34:25.660 It doesn't really make any sense.

00:34:26.660 Moreover, there's a logical problem with the idea of an infinite past.

00:34:31.820 Because if the past is infinite, then that would mean that you would need to traverse an infinite series of moments in order to reach our current moment.

00:34:40.960 Which means that you would never reach it, because you cannot traverse infinity.

00:34:45.400 So in other words, if the past is infinite, we would never have arrived at right now.

00:34:49.500 Now, the fact that we're at a right now, in the middle of, you know, time, a series of events, would seem to suggest that there's a beginning to that series.

00:35:01.880 If there was no beginning, then we would never get to right now.

00:35:05.700 So just the whole idea doesn't make sense.

00:35:07.800 It creates just a lot of logical contradictions.

00:35:11.240 And I think that doesn't work.

00:35:12.960 The other option is that the universe did begin to exist at a certain point.

00:35:18.400 But for no reason.

00:35:20.360 It just popped into being one day with no cause.

00:35:23.760 But I think that doesn't work.

00:35:25.720 Because then you have an effect with nothing causing the effect.

00:35:30.880 And that is a logical impossibility.

00:35:33.920 Moreover, if we lived in a reality where uncaused causes are possible, then why don't we see them happening?

00:35:42.740 Why don't we observe that?

00:35:43.980 Atheists will use this argument in the other direction.

00:35:49.460 They'll say, well, if we live in a reality created by God, then why don't we see the reality of God around us?

00:35:56.800 Why don't we see him?

00:35:58.120 Why don't we see that?

00:35:59.840 Why isn't it more obvious to us?

00:36:01.740 And now I would argue that we do see evidence of God around us.

00:36:04.940 But I would also say that I can throw that right back at the atheist and say, look, if things can just pop into the air with no cause, if there can be uncaused effects, then we should see that. 0.69

00:36:19.160 But we don't see that.

00:36:20.180 All we see around us, all we have ever observed is that every effect must have a cause.

00:36:26.580 We don't live in a reality where elephants can just materialize out of thin air or where a car or something could just disappear.

00:36:36.140 We don't live in a reality like that.

00:36:39.700 And you would think that we would if reality itself just popped into being one day with no cause.

00:36:46.140 The third option, aside from God, is that the universe did have a beginning and it was caused, but not by God.

00:36:55.520 I don't see how that could be the case either.

00:36:57.320 I see a lot of logical problems with the idea of mindless energy or particles just randomly causing a universe to come into being, not to mention where did that energy or those particles come from?

00:37:08.520 So you still run into the same problem.

00:37:09.880 But I think the biggest problem with the idea of a mindless cause is this conversation right now, or really what allows us to have this conversation, which is the mind.

00:37:25.300 We have minds.

00:37:26.760 We are conscious beings.

00:37:29.300 How could mindless particles arrange themselves in such a way as to create consciousness, as to create awareness?

00:37:39.880 I mean, how could mindless particles formulate so that they could become aware of themselves?

00:37:51.240 You see, it just it just it doesn't make sense.

00:37:54.420 And that is a mystery that no scientist has ever been able to solve.

00:37:58.480 And I think because in order to make a mind, you need a mind.

00:38:04.940 And that's what leads us to God.

00:38:06.540 That's what leads us to the conclusion that there must be an uncaused mind in the universe, a spark that starts the fireworks, a conscious spark.

00:38:17.620 So when I say that God is uncaused, that nobody created him, that's not a cop out.

00:38:23.100 That's the whole point.

00:38:25.300 I think we can logically arrive at the conclusion that such a being must exist.

00:38:31.240 So why is there a God?

00:38:34.840 Because there must be a God.

00:38:36.900 And why is God uncreated?

00:38:39.060 Because he must be uncreated by definition.

00:38:43.240 I think it's a logical necessity.

00:38:46.200 Is maybe the best way to put it.

00:38:49.100 All right.

00:38:49.360 But I don't know.

00:38:50.300 Hopefully that that helped in some way.

00:38:54.460 Thank you again for the email.

00:38:55.500 This is from Bree says, Dear Matt, I don't think I read this email yet.

00:39:02.260 Or did I?

00:39:03.040 I don't know.

00:39:03.480 Well, we'll do it again if I did.

00:39:05.020 Dear Matt, huge fan of the show.

00:39:06.480 I'm a big believer that the pro-life position should not be focused just on abortion.

00:39:11.980 We as pro-lifers should be pro-life in all situations.

00:39:15.100 But I have trouble applying this to the topic of euthanasia.

00:39:18.320 I absolutely think it's horrible to euthanize children or people who have alcoholism or depression like they do in Europe. 1.00

00:39:23.800 But what about someone who's on the verge of death anyway with terminal cancer or a similar diagnosis?

00:39:29.220 Isn't it compassionate to put them out of their misery rather than force them to continue being in unthinkable pain, dying slowly?

00:39:36.260 I just can't see it as equally bad as abortion to allow someone who's dying anyway and in pain to just get it over with.

00:39:43.500 I think that's probably what I would want in that situation myself.

00:39:46.860 I'm interested in your thoughts.

00:39:51.240 Great.

00:39:51.780 Another great question.

00:39:52.480 I would say that it's great that you're wrestling with this problem.

00:39:58.120 First, I would say that I don't think the kind of euthanasia you describe is as bad as abortion.

00:40:05.580 I think it's fundamentally evil.

00:40:08.100 And so in some ways, it's pointless to rank them.

00:40:11.660 But, you know, I mean, shoplifting and rape are also both evil.

00:40:15.540 But we wouldn't say that they're the same degree of evil.

00:40:18.860 So I think that euthanasia and abortion are both evil, both very evil.

00:40:24.340 But if we are going to get into the game of ranking them, I would say abortion is worse, so to speak. 0.99

00:40:30.920 But why should we oppose the kind of euthanasia that you're talking about and just assuming that, as we both do, that, you know, of course it's wrong to euthanize children or people who aren't terminally ill, as they do, in fact, do in Europe.

00:40:47.820 But what about euthanizing people who are terminally ill, the very elderly and so on?

00:40:54.940 I think there are three reasons why it's wrong.

00:40:57.400 Number one, or at least I'll say it's there are three reasons why I oppose it.

00:41:03.020 OK, number one is that I think it's just inherently wrong.

00:41:06.560 Number two, I think it's a slippery slope.

00:41:08.440 And number three, it is a dangerous misuse of the medical profession.

00:41:12.980 And now let me go through and explain those each in more detail.

00:41:16.700 Number one, it's fundamentally wrong.

00:41:19.080 I believe that life is meant to be lived.

00:41:25.240 You know, it's really as simple as that in some ways.

00:41:28.420 Every moment of life is precious, even moments that are filled with pain, even the final moments.

00:41:34.780 And to take our own life or to assist someone in taking their life is to deny the very purpose of life.

00:41:42.480 It is to literally give up on existence.

00:41:45.320 And I don't think that that is ever the right thing to do.

00:41:50.340 I think we are meant to live our lives for as long as they are given us to live.

00:41:58.100 Number two, it's a slippery slope.

00:41:59.660 You mentioned those horrible cases in in in Europe of people being euthanized, not for terminal illnesses, but for alcoholism or depression or what have you.

00:42:11.640 Well, how do you think that Europe got to that point?

00:42:15.020 They didn't just dive in with lethal injections for alcoholics.

00:42:18.880 They started with terminally ill adults and eventually they ended up where they are today.

00:42:24.680 And I think that's inevitable because the point, the justification of euthanasia, is that nobody should be forced to continue existing.

00:42:35.300 And if someone thinks that life is pointless and too painful, they should be provided an exit.

00:42:40.920 And that has to be the justification for euthanasia.

00:42:44.380 But if that is the justification, then how do you justify excluding the non-terminally ill?

00:42:50.420 I think that exclusion is kind of arbitrary.

00:42:52.660 I mean, to be in physical pain, the kind of physical pain you would be in if you were dying of cancer is, I mean, it's horrendous.

00:43:02.280 But there is also emotional and psychological pain that is very much horrendous itself.

00:43:09.960 And so if we're saying that pain is a moral justification for euthanasia, then I just don't see how you do exclude those who are in emotional or psychological pain as well.

00:43:21.660 So I think it's a slippery slope.

00:43:26.020 But then three, it's a perversion of the medical profession.

00:43:28.740 Here's the thing.

00:43:29.880 Even if I thought that suicide could be morally acceptable sometimes, which I don't, but if I did, I still would never agree with enlisting doctors to kill patients under any circumstance.

00:43:43.020 That is just the opposite of what a doctor is meant to do.

00:43:46.720 And it creates this kind of Jekyll and Hyde scenario where a doctor is tasked with preserving life in one case and ending it in another.

00:43:58.900 And I know that it's already like that with abortion, but we don't need to make it worse.

00:44:04.540 The medical profession, the chief aim of the medical profession must always be to preserve life.

00:44:10.420 If it's in the Hippocratic Oath, once its aim becomes preserving life or ending it, I think you have literally destroyed the medical profession and you have replaced it with something else.

00:44:22.600 You have turned the medical profession into something other than the medical profession.

00:44:26.980 And I think that's a very dangerous thing.

00:44:29.640 So those are my reasons for opposing euthanasia.

00:44:32.400 I guess I would also add a quick fourth reason, which is that I just kind of related to the third reason.

00:44:42.980 So maybe 3A or 3B.

00:44:48.280 I don't see the point of it.

00:44:50.360 It's completely pointless.

00:44:51.620 Because, again, even if I agreed that suicide can be justified, which I reiterate, I don't. 0.99

00:45:01.720 But if I did, I mean, why do you need a doctor to come in and kill you?

00:45:08.720 It just doesn't make any sense.

00:45:10.360 There are, not to be crude about it, but there are at-home ways of doing it.

00:45:16.560 So this whole idea that we need the medical establishment to work on the project of killing people, it just, it doesn't make any sense to me.

00:45:30.060 You know, there are, in many states, there are laws against suicide.

00:45:34.340 And I think that those laws are good because part of what those laws do is they allow, you know, if someone attempts suicide, they allow potentially, you know, the court system to send those people to, you know, to admit those people to mental, you know, institutions and that sort of thing.

00:45:56.520 Which I think is good.

00:45:58.900 But, of course, at the end of the day, if someone actually succeeds in committing suicide, you can't punish them for it.

00:46:06.520 And you also can't preemptively prevent someone from doing so unless they have announced their intention and then you can get them some help.

00:46:15.520 But if someone is really intent on killing themselves, you can't really stop them.

00:46:20.340 They can do it.

00:46:21.120 Which is just yet another reason why it just, it doesn't make any sense to me.

00:46:27.940 Why we need a, you need to have a doctor come in and give someone a pill or give them a lethal injection. 1.00

00:46:36.780 You know, the whole thing to me is just grotesque and wrong.

00:46:44.240 And for the third time, a horrible misuse of the medical profession.

00:46:48.620 All right.

00:46:50.200 I guess we will leave it there.

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The Matt Walsh Show - June 11, 2019

Ep. 273 - What's Wrong With A Straight Pride Parade？

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