Ep. 278 - When The Smear Merchants Win, We All Lose
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A conservative activist has his Harvard acceptance rescinded because of bad things he said to his friends privately two years ago. The dirt merchants who dug up dirt on him for political reasons win again. Also, OJ Simpson has joined Twitter and 700,000 people are following him. And finally, a trans poet is rearranging the alphabet. We ll talk about that today, also on the Matt Walsh Show.
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Today on the Matt Walsh Show, a conservative activist has his Harvard acceptance rescinded because of bad things he said to his friends privately two years ago.
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The dirt merchants who dug up dirt on him for political reasons win again, and I'll explain why I think that's a loss for everybody.
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Also, OJ Simpson has joined Twitter and 700,000 people are following him.
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And finally, a trans poet is rearranging the alphabet.
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We'll talk about that today also on the Matt Walsh Show.
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Okay, well, I don't want to, you know, get too cheesy here to start with, but I do have to begin by wishing a happy birthday to a very special person.
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This is someone who I love deeply, someone who, I mean, they're going to be embarrassed by this, but honestly, someone who is just really smart and generous.
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Funny, kind, extremely good-looking, maybe the best person in the world.
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You know, I don't want you to think it's a big deal.
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It's not like you guys have to, you know, send me presents and money or anything like that.
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I mean, I'd take the presents and money if you send them to me.
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Harvard has rescinded its acceptance of a prominent gun rights activist, Kyle Cashew.
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As you may have heard yesterday, Parkland shooting survivor, gun rights advocate, Kyle
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That's what rescinded mean, in case you didn't know, over comments that he made privately
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Um, and the comments in question, I'm not going to repeat them here because I, I can't.
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Um, let's just suffice it to say, if you haven't seen them, they are gross, stupid, racist, but
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they were also the comments of a high school boy joking around with his buddies and trying
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It's pretty obvious to me when you see the comments that that's what they're doing.
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I don't mean to scandalize you if you weren't aware of this, but, uh, boys, especially
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They, they say the most outrageous and offensive things that they can think of to each other
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Um, now he was not a public figure at the time and he would have had no idea that a couple
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of years later he would be in the limelight due to a massacre at his school.
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This was not as a 16 year old kid that was not anywhere on his radar any more than it would
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Um, now he has apologized for his comments, which were leaked to the media in a transparent
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effort to destroy him for his second amendment advocacy.
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Um, and since taking on this new role as a gun rights champion, he hasn't said or done anything
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Um, so when he says that he's changed and that he's not the same person that he was
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when he was 16, well, there's no evidence to dispute that claim because he hasn't done
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or said anything since we've known about him to indicate racism.
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Um, also we know that in between the age of 16 and right now, uh, he, he, he was, he did
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experience a traumatic event, like a school shooting is a traumatic event and those kinds
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of events, uh, can have transformative effects on people.
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So when he says I've changed in the meantime, there is nothing absurd or unbelievable about
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In fact, it'd be kind of unbelievable if he hadn't changed considering what he went through.
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Um, during the shooting, but despite his efforts to repair, whatever damage, the gross jokes
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he told to his friends, you know, might have done to the people who were exposed to them
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two years later, uh, because of a coordinated effort to destroy his reputation, whatever damage
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Uh, and despite his, his, his apology for that, he was still punished anyway.
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Every sane person knows that Kyle's affiliation with the conservative movement weighed heavily
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Had he been an anti-Second Amendment advocate like, like his classmate, David Hogg?
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Well, we can't know that for sure, but we have reasons to be suspicious.
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And the reason we have to be suspicious is that we know the rules are not applied equally.
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So one example people have been using, which I think is a good example is you take the governor
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Now the governor of Virginia, um, his, uh, you know, he had college yearbook photos, which
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surfaced months ago, showing somebody in blackface and somebody in a, in a KKK hood.
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And he originally said, Oh, uh, now remember what he, the way he originally responded to
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that was he said, he wasn't sure, like he wasn't sure which one, who, if he was in the
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picture or who he was, maybe he wrote, wore a Klan outfit, maybe he wore blackface.
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Um, now me, I can say definitively that I have never worn a Klan outfit or blackface.
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I, you know, I, I can say that because I would remember doing that.
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Um, the fact that Northam couldn't remember would seem to indicate maybe that, uh, either
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he's lying or he dressed that way so often that he can't remember who he was in the picture.
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But then later he denied it, but then he came out and said, okay, well, I wasn't that guy,
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but I did wear blackface at another point when I was dressing up like Michael Jackson for a talent
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Um, he said he, he, he smeared, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, shoe polish on his face to look like
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Yet, um, Northam is still governor despite the fact that he engaged in racist behavior
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and that he engaged in that racist behavior in his twenties when he was adult and adult.
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Now, if you want to miss the point, which a lot of people do these days,
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you could argue that, well, these two cases are unrelated.
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Uh, the, the Harvard admissions office has nothing to do with the governorship of Virginia,
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Um, governor, you know, it's not like, uh, the people at Harvard can revoke or rescind the
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Also governorships are a lot harder to revoke from someone than would be, uh, the, their acceptance
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Harvard made its decision because of the relentless pressure placed on it by leftists
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Northam, on the other hand, survived his racism scandal because there was not that kind of
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Now, in the first couple of, of days after the blackface photo came out, you did have
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Democrats issuing statements and condemning, uh, Northam and so on and so forth.
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But you notice that, you know, within two or three days they moved on and they don't talk
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Well, I think number one, it's because he's a Democrat, but also when, when the, when the
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blackface photo scandal first started, um, and Democrats were issuing statements, well,
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they thought that, okay, we'll just get rid of this guy.
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The Lieutenant governor is, um, is also a Democrat.
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So it was self-serving, but then it comes out that the Lieutenant governor is, uh,
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And then the third in command, the attorney general comes out and admits that, uh, that
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he also dressed in blackface as a, as a, as a younger man.
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So then Democrats start realizing that, wait a second, you know, if we get rid of Northam,
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um, for blackface, well, then we also got rid of, got to get rid of the attorney general
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And then we've got this Lieutenant governor who's accused of rape.
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So, you know, we don't want to, we're just going to forget about, we're going to drop
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That's why they moved on because they never cared about the blackface thing.
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And then they realized that it's not in their best interest actually to get rid of Northam.
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The best thing is just to move on from this and pretend it never happened.
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Um, so it is, uh, selective outrage, of course.
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Now, if we were interested in developing a more consistent approach to these kinds of
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controversies, which I know a lot of people are not interested in that, but if we were,
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I would suggest that we take a few things into consideration anytime we have one of these
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controversies or scandals where offensive stuff from someone's past comes up, um, I think
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we should take a few things into consideration.
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Number one, how old was the person when they did or said the offensive thing?
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Number two, did they do or say the offensive thing publicly?
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Number three, were they public figures when they did or said the offensive thing?
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He said, or wrote actually the things privately.
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All three of these factors in my mind would seem to call for grace and forgiveness.
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He did it in a talent show by his own admission, but he wasn't a public figure at the time either.
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Uh, so I can see an argument for letting Northam off the hook on this one, but I can't see an
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argument for letting Northam off the hook while holding Kyle to account.
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It seems that, that you only have the intellectual credibility to call for forgiveness for Northam.
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If you also call for forgiveness for Kyle, there's no reasonable argument that can make
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Now for another comparison, consider Samantha Bee and Roseanne.
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Bee called Ivanka Trump a feckless C word on her show.
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Roseanne compared, uh, Valerie Jarrett to the planet of the apes.
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Both made their comments publicly as adults in front of millions of people.
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Both were public figures at the time that they made their comments.
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Both put their employers in a, in a difficult position, um, by their own choices.
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So there's a reasonable argument in five, in favor of firing both of them.
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There is no reasonable argument in favor of firing Roseanne, but not Samantha Bee.
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Kicked off her show, which was the number one show on TV.
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Uh, Samantha Bee is, is, uh, even though nobody watches her show in the first place and nobody
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cares about her, uh, she still didn't lose her job and her career is not destroyed.
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And, uh, and she has more credibility and street cred among leftists.
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Well, of course, because Bee's a liberal, Roseanne is actually liberal too, but she's considered
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a conservative by default because she likes Trump.
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Um, and that's, that's all that matters in the end.
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But, you know, I think as I've, as I've thought more about this, um, with Kyle, you know, I'm
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talking about his age and the fact that he wasn't a public figure, so on and so forth.
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Um, I think that's, that is part of the point, but maybe that's not even the main point here
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because I've been thinking over the last day, I, I know that the situation with Kyle having
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his, his, uh, acceptance revoked, it makes me very uncomfortable.
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And I'm trying to figure, I'm trying to put my finger on what exactly makes me so uncomfortable
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And I know any liberal who's watching was, oh, it's only because he's a conservative.
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You know, I, I, Roseanne, as I said, I, when Roseanne was fired, I said, yeah, she probably
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Um, so I don't make these, I, I don't personally, I don't judge these things on a partisan basis.
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I'm looking for a more consistent way to evaluate these kinds of cases.
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So the, the thing aside from age and all of that, uh, because I agree that the age excuse
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does seem on the surface kind of weak considering he was 16 at the time, but he's 18 now.
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Um, but the gap between 16 and 18, uh, is actually very significant or can be.
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It's much bigger than the gap between 33 and 31 between 16 and 18 because of in, in that
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age, you're just growing a lot, uh, you know, physiologically there's a, there are a lot
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And so someone can have a transformative change between 16 and 18, whereas between 40 and 42,
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that's going to be a lot less likely because you're kind of stuck in your ways at that point,
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but you're not at 16, um, especially when you undergo a traumatic experience in the middle
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The point is this, the sorts of people who dig up dirt against their political or personal
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The only reason we know about this with Kyle is because these private conversations were leaked
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um, and they were leaked, uh, by, I guess, friends who don't like him anymore because of his
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political advocacy and they were, and, and it was, it was, uh, these messages were, were
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taken and, uh, and amplified by dirt merchants in the media and others who again are trying
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to destroy Kyle because they don't like his politics.
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You know, I think the court of public opinion should in this regard operate a lot like a,
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a court of law where we should treat ill gotten evidence as inadmissible.
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Now I know it doesn't work that way because the court of a public opinion is not a court of law,
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but I'm saying in this particular situation, I think it should.
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If we only know about something because of a smear campaign against someone where private
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conversations are being leaked in order to destroy them, I think, again, I know it will
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never happen, but I think what we should do is say, it's, you know what? I don't want to hear that.
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Uh, that's why I never actually thought that Northam should resign for the blackface photo.
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I thought he should resign for publicly advocating infanticide when he was an adult and governor.
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Now that's something that he did on the radio as a governor. Now that we can hold him accountable for,
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but we should be very wary of dirt dug up from the past.
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Because when the target of a smear campaign is destroyed, it's the dirt merchants who win.
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Not justice, not tolerance, not inclusivity, raw vengeance and opportunism. That's what wins the day.
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So when you think about Kyle having his Harvard acceptance revoked, who wins?
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Well, the people who leaked this stuff and tried to destroy them, destroy him, they're the ones who win.
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And I don't, I don't see how that's a win for society or for our culture or for anyone, except for those people.
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I think it's best for society when smear merchants and dirt merchants lose.
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I think it would be best for society when the dirt merchants come with dirt and they say,
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oh, look at this dirt we dug up on this guy. And the rest of us go, yeah, you know what? I don't care.
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That's, uh, you know, we had, that's, that wasn't meant for our ears. We weren't meant to see that.
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And if you think that sounds unreasonable, well, well, how do you respond or how should you respond?
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Um, and if you think that sounds unreasonable, well, how, how would you respond or how should you respond
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if a gossip comes up to you when you're just on a personal level, let's say someone, you know,
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who's very gossipy comes up to you and says, Hey, you're never going to believe.
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Guess what I found out about it. You know, so-and-so, uh, guess what they said to, to, to, to, to,
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to someone else, uh, two years ago. Listen to this. I got some dirt on this, but you want to hear this?
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Um, now if you're someone who likes to engage in gossip, you might say, Oh yeah, give me the dirt.
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Let me hear this. This sounds good. But I think we all know that the proper response to that is to
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say, I don't want to hear it. Don't tell me it's not relevant to me. You have no business telling me
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that. Um, I'm not going to engage in gossip. I don't want to hear it. I think most of us know that's
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how we should respond to gossip is I don't want to, even if it's true, a gossip doesn't always mean
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that it's lies or it's not true. It could, could be true. But most of us understand, even if we don't
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follow through all the time, most of us understand that, uh, the, the way to respond to gossips is to
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shut them down and say, I don't want to hear it. I'm not having this conversation. And so I think on a
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public level, what we should, we should do basically the same thing and say, I don't want to hear that.
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Um, and that's, so that's, that's what it comes down to for me is I don't like the fact that we
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are emboldening people like this. All right. Um, here's, uh, here's something else.
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Famous murderer. OJ Simpson is out of jail now. And, uh, and on Twitter, if you didn't hear,
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he sent out a tweet a few days ago, announcing his arrival to the platform. Uh, and everyone
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responded with disgust. Oh, people say, Oh, this is so gross. OJ Simpson is tweeting. Now he should
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be in prison. This is disgusting. You know, Twitter's a cesspool. That's what everyone said,
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but here we are two or three days later, and it will come as no surprise that OJ is still tweeting
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and he now tweets to 700,000 followers. So while everyone pretended to be disgusted by OJ on Twitter,
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700,000 of those people decided to follow him and think about what following someone on Twitter means.
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It means that every time you sign on to Twitter, you want to see what this person is saying,
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right? You want to follow them around in cyberspace and hear everything they're saying,
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whatever thoughts happen to pop into their head. You, you want to hear it, whatever comes to their
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mind. You want to have immediate access to it. Um, you want those thoughts posted in your feed so
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that you can see them right away, a shortcut and 700,000 people so far want that kind of access to
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OJ Simpson, a man who at this point is, Oh, now he's, he was a famous football player before this.
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He was in Hollywood for a while, but the only reason he's really famous now, when you hear OJ
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Simpson, first thing you're thinking is that he decapitated two people. Um, and, uh, and that's,
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but people wanted to follow this guy. I just, the only reason I bring this up, I just can't think of
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a better, and it kind of relates to what I was just talking about. Really. Um, I can't think of
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a better encapsulation of our culture than this. And, or everyone pretends like, Oh, I'm so out as
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OJ Simpson. I'm so outraged this guy. And then, and then all these people go, it's like, yeah,
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but I'll follow him anyway. You know, I mentioned this on Twitter a couple of days ago and people
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told me, well, I follow him so that I can be up to speed or, um, I follow him so that I can see what
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crazy and stupid things he's tweeting. And you see, that's exactly the problem. First of all,
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why do you need to be up to speed on what OJ Simpson is saying? We've got this culture now of
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people feeling like they need to be in the loop, no matter what the loop is. Never stopping to think,
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is this a loop that I actually need to be in or want to be in? How is my life going to be enriched
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by this? Uh, how is this actually going to make my day better or, or my life better? We've got this
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obsession with being informed that without any care for the relevance or the quality or importance of
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that information. That's one of the reasons why when people talk all the times about, Oh, we need to be
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more informed. People aren't informed enough. No, people are informed enough. People aren't formed
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too much. Probably we live in the most informed, um, civilization ever in history without a doubt.
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I mean, people have access to tons of information and people have tons of information bouncing around
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their heads. The problem is that most of that information is useless and pointless,
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and there's no reason why anyone needs to know it. And the problem also is that we have
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information. We are informed rather than being knowledgeable and smart because there's a difference
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between having knowledge and having information. Um, and then, and then people say, well, I want to
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see crazy and stupid stuff that he tweets. Well, why though? This, this is a, this is a very unhealthy
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impulse that we have. And it seems to be an insatiable appetite that we have for this way.
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I want to have, I want to see all the crazy and stupid stuff. Do you not, do you really not already
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have enough crazy and stupid in your life? Isn't there enough crazy and stupid out there?
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You can turn on the TV anytime and see crazy and stupid. You can go anywhere on the internet and see
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crazy and stupid. There's crazy, you can, you can walk outside of your house and see crazy and
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stupid. You can maybe even look in the mirror if you're me and see crazy and stupid. Uh, so you
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could see crazy and stupid anywhere. Do you really need more of it? But it really is an insatiable
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addiction we have. It's like, oh, there's more, oh, more crazy and stupid. I need more. Yes, more,
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more, more. We see, we see another source of crazy and stupid and we've got to get our fix. We just
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need to, we need to surround ourself by it all the time. Why is that? I don't get it.
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Well, I do kind of get it. I think it's, um, I think we want a lot of crazy and stupid in our life
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because number one, it's just distraction and it prevents us from having to think or contemplate
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anything. And I think number two, it makes us feel better about ourselves. It makes us feel smarter.
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It makes us feel more sane, more rational, but that's the thing. Is it really smart, sane, or rational
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to go seeking crazy and stupid stuff and immerse yourself in it? No, you see that is both crazy and
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stupid. So in our efforts to make our felt selves feel better for not being crazy and stupid, we have
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actually become crazy and stupid. That's the moral of the story. Um, sounds like a, an ASAP's fable or
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something like that. Okay. I have one more, uh, thing to mention here. If I can, I'm just stalling for a
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minute as I, as I pull it up. Okay, here we go. So on the website, queertee.com, that's the name of the
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website. Not a website I checked very often, but, uh, it's been, it's been, uh, this, this certain
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article has been all over social media. The headline of the article is trans poet, Joss Charles
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rearranges the alphabet to survive its ferocity against her body. I feel like I should read that
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against because it might've been confusing. Trans poet, Joss Charles rearranges the alphabet
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to survive its ferocity against her body. And, uh, and then this, uh, so it's an article about
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this poet who is rearranging the alphabet. I'll read a little bit of the, of the article for you.
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Speaking of crazy and stupid, you see all the topics now are just blending into each other. This is,
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this is pretty, pretty good what I'm doing. I hope you appreciate. Um, it says, uh, Charles has reworked
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the structure of language to capture the trans experience, establishing her as one of the most
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promising poets of her generation. Charles combines a deep understanding of poetic traditions with her
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own personal experience to create works that address gender and identity issues in a unique and
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moving way. Her second volume of poetry field name of the name of the poetry book is field. That's
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F E E L D not felt field creates a language resembling middle English to challenge our
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limited vocabulary to describe the trans experience. In the process, Charles has won praise as one of the
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most important young poets today and the appropriate recognition field was chosen by the New Yorker as
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one of the best poetry books of 2018 field challenges readers and not just because of the language it is
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at once lyrical and pointed here. Here's a couple of lines they give us from the poetry book. Uh,
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here's, here's a line. Did you know not a month goes by a tran? I know doesn't die.
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And that's a U spelled with just the letter U no spelled K N O a month spelled M O N T H E and by spelled B Y E.
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And then, uh, some more lyrics here. Gender is not the tran or gain. Gender is yes, a hemorrhag.
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Well, that just, that doesn't mean anything. That's just, that's, that's literally just nonsense. I
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don't know. Gender spelled G E N D R E or gain spelled O R G A N E. I don't even know. I don't know what
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that word is. This is a made up word. Um, and, uh, anyway, it's, uh, it, it, it goes on from there.
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You know, uh, this is, there's so much that can be said about this, or maybe there's not much. Uh, it's just,
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it's just utter nonsense, but you see a few things happening here. Number one, we see the continued
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disintegration of language of poetry of art, uh, where something like this, this gimmicky, ridiculous,
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nonsensical garbage is named, you know, one of the poetry or this person, one of the poets of the
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year, poetry of the year, whatever it was. Um, but you also find, here's what jumps out at me
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is we can't lose sight of this. It's the incredible arrogance of this person of, uh, of, of the left,
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especially of gay activists, trans activists. You know, this person is saying, Oh, you know what?
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The regular language isn't good enough for me. Regular language. I mean, there are, there are
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thousands of words in the English language. It just doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't capture my
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experience. My experience is so transcendent and so beautiful. It's so, so deep and perplexing and
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wonderful that there's just no, I have to invent new words for it. And even regular words that already
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exist, you know, that it's beneath me to use those words. I am going, I'm going to, I'm going to
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rearrange the letters because that's just, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's for, that's for the
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plebes. You know, that's, that's for the, that's for the peasants to use word, regular words. And I,
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I need new words. That's really what's going on here. It's just incredible arrogance that you find.
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I'm, I'm so constrained by the alphabet. You know, I have lived my whole, I've lived 32, well now 33
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years of life because it is my birthday, by the way. I don't know if I mentioned that. Um, I've lived 33
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years of life and I have been able to express everything I've wanted to express using the
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regular alphabet and regular words. I, so I, and, and just everyone I know has been able to do that.
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Almost everyone in the world has been able to do that. And, uh, but not you, of course, you need,
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you need special words. You need special words. Not because everything needs to be special for you
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because you're so special. All right. Uh, let's move on to some emails. Matt Walsh show at gmail.com.
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Matt Walsh show at gmail.com. Um, this is from Peter says, Matt, I think I caught you in an
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inconsistency. You say that you think people have the right to burn the flag because it's free speech,
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but you've also previously said that you think pornography should be banned. I know those two
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things are not the same, but how can you be a free speech advocate with one and not the other
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yesterday? It seemed like you were taking a free speech absolutist position, but your previous
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statements reveal, uh, that you are not a free speech absolutist. How do you explain the contradiction?
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Yeah. We talked about yesterday about the burning the flag issue. I said, it's free speech. I have
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said in the past that I think porn should be banned. Um, so that's a good point. You know, that's a,
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that's a, a good thing to bring up. Did you catch me in a contradiction?
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I don't think you did. Um, and let me, let me explain the difference.
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I think when deciding whether something is covered by, by free speech, we need to consider two things.
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All right. Number one, is the thing in question speech? Okay. In order for it to be free speech,
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it has to actually be speech is the primary point of the thing in question to convey a coherent message,
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right? That's what speech is. That to me is speech. It is conveying a message. That's speech.
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So if someone is arrested for, uh, you know, for instance, urinating in public,
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well, they can't claim free speech because the primary point of urinating is not to convey a message.
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Okay. You're not trying to get a message across when you urinate, you're just doing it because you
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have to. Um, so that's not free speech. It is speech. Um, in my mind, even if it doesn't involve
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spoken or written words, if the people who witness it can see it and say, okay, okay, yeah, I get the
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message. So, uh, that's why I think burning the flag is speech, but we'll get to that in a second.
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So then the second thing to take into consideration is does the speech in question cause real active
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harm to other people? So this is why slander is illegal because yeah, slander is speech. It conveys
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a message, but the point of the speech is to cause direct and intentional harm to another person.
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And so that's why it's illegal. Okay. Now let's, let's apply this is burning a flag speech.
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Yes. I think obviously it is. We all know it is because that's exactly why people are against it.
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You're against it because you hate the message that it sends. This is what I was explaining yesterday.
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Now, if you see someone burning a flag, it's, it's not the simple act of burning a flag that you
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oppose, right? Because you could burn a flag for good reasons. You could be disposing of the flag.
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That's a proper way to dispose of a flag. So it's not the burning of the flag. You have a problem with
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it's the message that's being sent. That's what you have a problem with. And that's what everyone
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says. Everyone says, Oh, you know, you, you burn the flag. It's a, it's a symbol of a, you're
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showing ingratitude. You're, you're, it's a disgrace to our country. You're spitting all over the
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sacrifice that our troops made. I agree that yes, that's what it does. But so, but you get the
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message, right? So it is conveying a message. You clearly understand the message. Now I don't agree
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with the message. It's a bad message. It's a stupid message. Uh, it's an offensive mess, but it is a
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message. So it is speech in the same way on the opposite end. If someone flies a flag, we all understand
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the message they're sending. They're saying, I love America. I'm proud to be an American. We all
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get that. We know that's the message. We all understand that burning the flag is the opposite
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message. We all get that too. Is pornography speech? I would say no. What message is being
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conveyed by two people having sex? If you watch a guy burn a flag for two seconds, you know exactly
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what he's trying to say. If you see two people having sex, what are they saying? What message
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are they trying to send you? Um, what ideas are they expressing? Now you might say that the sexual
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relations in the, the, the, the couple, the people having sex are conveying a message to each
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other. Um, but that's not pornography. Pornography involves the third party witness, right? So what
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message is being conveyed to that third party witness, I would say there is no real message.
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And if you say that porn is speech, then you also have to say that prostitution is speech,
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but prostitution is illegal almost everywhere in the country. And most people agree, unless you're a
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hardcore libertarian, you agree. The prostitution should be illegal where porn and prostitution
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are the exact same thing. It's transactional sex and it's sex, um, uh, uh, for money, which is
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transactional sex. That's what pornography is. That's what prostitution is. The only difference
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between prostitution and pornography is that in pornography, the prostitutes are being filmed.
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So, I mean, if you film a prostitute, is it all of a sudden not prostitution anymore because you're
00:37:55.240
filming it? That's absurd. Obviously it's prostitution because you're paying the person to have sex
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in pornography. These are people who are being paid to have sex or are even if they're not being
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directly paid, they're somehow probably gaining money from it, um, profiting from it somehow.
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So that's why I think it's not speech. It's prostitution and prostitution is not speech.
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It's a transaction. Um, and that's not necessarily the same thing. Number two, harm. What harm does burning
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a flag cause to any person? Provided it's done safely, it doesn't start a forest fire. What harm is done?
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Um, if you see a person burning a flag, it makes you angry. You're upset by it. You oppose it.
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Does it harm you? I mean, are you really traumatized by it? Be honest. Like you see a guy burning a flag.
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I know it really pisses you off as well. It should. All right. Is it going to affect the rest of your,
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you'll be so traumatized by the, by witnessing that you can barely move on with your life.
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No, it doesn't, it doesn't traumatize people. It doesn't scandalize the public. It doesn't cause
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people to become anti-American. In fact, if anything, it galvanizes people the opposite
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direction to defend America. Um, whereas with pornography, I would argue that, uh, it absolutely
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does cause real harm, especially to kids. Kids suffer real trauma from their exposure to pornography.
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It causes real damage psychologically to people. It has a real effect on your brain, which is lasting.
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And that's to say nothing of the harm the porn industry does to those in it. When you look at
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the suicide rate, the drug abuse rate, the STD rate, uh, within the porn world, you see that it causes a lot
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of harm to everybody involved. And so that's why I think you could argue for banning pornography,
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but not flag burning. All right. This is from, uh, Maggie says, hi, uh, my name is Maggie. I'm an
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18 year old from Wyoming. I'm a new listener. And the first show of yours that I happened upon
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was one in which you claim that adding sour cream to eggs was the best way to achieve the perfect
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breakfast. I didn't realize, I didn't believe this in the slightest, but after listening to a few more
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of your shows, I realized that I agree with you on almost everything else decided that your culinary
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options opinions may also be something that I agree with. After trying it, I concede that you are,
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uh, the Supreme leader in the kitchen as well. Keep up the good work. This is from Dallas,
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Matt. I'm always looking for better recipes. So I tried your scrambled eggs recipe the other day,
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uh, that I heard on your show. I don't know if you came up with that yourself or not,
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but I don't think I'll ever find a better plate of scrambled eggs than the glorious manna.
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I just finished eating. Thank you so much for sharing that. And if you have any more gems like
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that one, I'd love to hear them. This is from Brian. Salutations, future theocratic dictator,
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overlord of this realm and any other realm and had a bit of inhabitable by human beings.
00:40:54.200
I want to start this email out by saying that I have no culinary experience whatsoever.
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I'm a notorious egg burner. After listening to your podcast and your recipe for fluffy scrambled eggs,
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I decided to give it a shot. I went to the grocery store, picked up butter, not milk and sour cream.
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I did everything according to your explanation and Eureka breakfast was served and it was amazing.
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I managed to not burn the eggs and ruin Sunday breakfast as well. My girlfriend and I
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started calling the recipe huevos a la Walsh. Anyway, thank you again and keep up the amazing podcast.
00:41:25.340
Those are just, that's a small sample of the emails that I got, um, extolling the virtues of my
00:41:33.860
scrambled egg recipe, which I shared on the show a couple of days ago. And if you missed it,
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you have to go back and, uh, and find it. But, um, I really did. I think I did change a lot of
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people's lives because so many people have been making scrambled eggs incorrectly and humiliating
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themselves and all of mankind by serving up burnt, crispy, disgusting flakes of eggs that they call
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scrambled eggs. No fluffiness, no flavor. Um, so many people have been doing this. So I decided to
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finally share the proper scrambled eggs recipe. And, uh, anyway, those are just some of the reviews.
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That's all. All right. Uh, let's do one more. This is from Jasmine says, uh, Matt, since you're a
00:42:23.800
Christian, I wanted to, I wanted to ask you a question that's been nagging me. As you may know,
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in Acts, uh, four 32 through 35, it says now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart
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and one soul, neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had
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all things in common. And with great power, the apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the
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Lord Jesus and great grace was upon them all. Nor was there anyone among them who lacked for all who
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were possessed possessors of lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of the things that were
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sold and laid them at the apostles feet. And they distributed to each as anyone had need. Although I am
00:43:00.540
a capitalist, I read this and see the redistribution of wealth in the early church. Does this mean that
00:43:06.200
the Bible advocates for socialism? Uh, Jasmine, no, that doesn't mean that it's socialism because notice
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one element at play choice. The early Christians chose to live that way. This is not socialism. That's the
00:43:21.260
opposite of socialism. Socialism is, is compelled by the state. The state comes in, takes charge,
00:43:26.740
uh, takes what it wants, redistributes. That's what socialism is all about. What you find there
00:43:32.560
are people who choose to live a certain way. Personally, I'm a huge critic of socialism, but I
00:43:38.360
think it's great when people share, when they help less fortunate, when they give to charity, when they,
00:43:42.600
uh, live simple lives. I'm a big fan of that, but I just think people should choose that.
00:43:48.540
And so that is, that's free market. It's free. People are living how they want to live,
00:43:56.280
doing what they want with their own money. Um, by the way, why doesn't the Bible call for a giant
00:44:05.500
welfare state? Well, I think for one thing, God knows that the government, the governments are
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corrupt. And so when you give them too much money and too much power, horrible things are going to
00:44:14.700
happen as we have, as we have seen play out with socialist governments over the last 100 years or
00:44:19.780
so. Um, but even more importantly, uh, what's the point of sharing? What's the point of giving to the
00:44:28.580
less fortunate? What's the point of helping those in need? Is the point to cure poverty? Well, no,
00:44:34.920
because Jesus said, we're always going to have the poor with us. In fact, to even encourage people to
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be poor. So I don't think Jesus saw poverty as necessarily a problem that had to be solved.
00:44:47.520
Yet he did tell us to give to the poor. Um, so how do you, how do you square that? Well, I think that,
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um, the answer is love, right? That's really the point. When you stop on the street and you give some
00:45:04.780
food to a homeless person. Yeah. He gains a meal. Okay. And which is a very practical and necessary
00:45:10.880
and good thing, something that he needs to live, but he also benefits from the act of love. Um,
00:45:20.760
you are extending a hand, you are lifting him up. You are noticing him as a human being.
00:45:27.300
You are making him feel more human. And in turn, he makes you feel more human by accepting your charity
00:45:35.680
graciously and with gratitude. And I think that's the real point that love is the point. The point is
00:45:45.100
to love your fellow man, to let them know that they are loved, to build them up with love. Um, and,
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and that's it. And that is lost. That's completely lost when the government does it because nobody
00:46:02.440
feels loved by the government. Nobody is humanized by the government. Nobody is lifted up by the
00:46:08.380
government. The opposite is true to the government. You're a number, you're a figure, you're a statistic.
00:46:13.280
So that's why, one of the reasons why people get stuck on welfare and never get off of it because
00:46:17.900
it's dehumanizing. It's depressing. It's, it's, uh, it just makes you feel like a, like a number. Just,
00:46:24.320
they, they, they, they throw an EBT card at you. They, they, they, they send you a check,
00:46:28.360
whatever. They don't care about you. You're dealing with bureaucrats and bureaucracy. Bureaucracy
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doesn't care about you. It doesn't look at you like a person isn't concerned about you.
00:46:40.800
Um, yet an individual person who chooses to help you. Well, that is someone who's,
00:46:49.680
you know, that, that is when you feel the love as it, as it were. Um, so I think that's the
00:46:57.300
difference and, uh, we will leave it there. Thanks everybody for watching. Godspeed.
00:47:03.140
Hey everyone. I'm Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan show. What Harvard did to pro-freedom
00:47:21.140
activist, Kyle Kashuv sucks. And if you make excuses for Harvard, you suck. But then the truth is
00:47:27.100
Harvard isn't Harvard anymore. Just like the New York times isn't the times and Disney isn't Disney.
00:47:31.980
These once great institutions are just the skins of their former selves being worn by an alien being
00:47:38.280
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