The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 282 - Did Ilhan Omar Marry Her Brother？

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wells Show, Representative Ilhan Omar stands accused of marrying her brother

00:00:04.560 in order to skirt our immigration laws. Are the claims true? Well, there's plenty of smoke.

00:00:12.720 Is there a fire? I don't know, but we'll look at the evidence. We'll look at this case today.

00:00:16.200 It's very complicated, very weird, but it's important. So we'll talk about that today.

00:00:20.640 Also, we'll look at something else. President Trump is accused again of sexual assault,

00:00:25.280 and I think that there's reason to be skeptical of this accusation. There are some things about it

00:00:31.760 that don't make a lot of sense, but we'll talk about that today also on the Matt Wells Show.

00:00:39.900 All right, I hope you all had a great weekend. My weekend was pretty good, though I did make a

00:00:45.620 mistake that I feel like I should tell you about, kind of a cautionary tale. I told my kids, the twins,

00:00:53.340 who are kindergarten age, that they could watch the movie King Kong over the weekend. Not the

00:01:01.560 really old ones, but the one from 2005 directed by Peter Jackson. I saw it when it first came out,

00:01:07.300 but that was like 15 years ago almost, so it's been a long time. My memory of the movie is that

00:01:13.340 it was kind of a family adventure, family-friendly, nice little safe flick that kids of all ages could

00:01:20.540 enjoy. That's my memory of it when I saw it 15 years ago. So the point is that I vouched for it

00:01:25.940 with my wife. I told my kids I could watch King Kong. They were super excited, and then my wife

00:01:32.560 said, I don't know about that. Is that appropriate? I said, it's fine. Don't worry about it. I saw it.

00:01:37.360 No big deal. It's fine. I guess it'd been so long that I forgot how scary and violent it is in certain

00:01:44.680 parts, and much more than I remembered, and it looked like the kids were being slightly traumatized

00:01:50.320 by some of the scenes. So I was fast. I was Johnny on the spot with the fast forward button, making

00:01:56.040 sure to get through the scarier parts so that they were still watching them, but just faster.

00:02:02.580 So I figured that's not as bad. Anyway, I fast forwarded most of the bad parts, except I forgot

00:02:10.000 about a part, because it happens very quickly towards the end, where King Kong bites off a

00:02:14.800 guy's head, almost like an old-fashioned grenade. He bites off the head, spits the head out, throws

00:02:19.460 the body. I forgot that that happened. It didn't register on me at the time, and I wasn't able to 0.92

00:02:25.560 fast forward. And the real problem, though, is that my wife, who had not been watching the movie at all

00:02:30.180 this entire time with us, she happens to walk in right before that happens and sits down and says,

00:02:34.760 well, I'll watch it with you. And then the head-biting thing happens. My son, of course,

00:02:38.660 loves it. He's, oh, King Kong just bit off a guy's head. Did you see that, mommy?

00:02:43.440 And I'm sitting there like, kid, just stop. Don't, don't, don't. And my wife gives me that look. 0.90

00:02:51.720 You know, it's a very specific look that your wife gives you. It's a very specific,

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00:05:47.660 All right. The, the Star Tribune, uh, the paper in Minneapolis ran a story over the weekend about

00:05:54.180 representative Ilhan Omar. Here's the lead of the story. It says new investigative documents released

00:05:58.300 by a state agency have given fresh life to lingering questions about the marital history of

00:06:02.660 representative Ilhan Omar and whether she wants married a man, possibly her own brother to skirt

00:06:07.820 immigration laws. Now that's not an accusation that you hear every day against politicians, is it?

00:06:13.360 That's not one that's, that's, that's, that's a, that's a, that's a new one. The Star Tribune has

00:06:18.680 apparently been ignoring this story for a long time, for, for years, really months or years,

00:06:23.300 they've been ignoring it. Uh, they're the local, that's Minneapolis and Ilhan Omar, of course,

00:06:28.800 the representative for Minnesota. So they're sort of the local crew there. And during the campaign,

00:06:34.500 they didn't talk about it, didn't talk about, they're only coming out with it now because they

00:06:38.140 have no choice because, uh, because of there's the evidence is piling up and they have to say

00:06:43.860 something to acknowledge it. And I, I tell you that just because I, there are some conservatives who

00:06:49.460 I saw over the weekend were, it seemed like they were tempted to give the Star Tribune some credit

00:06:55.360 and say, Oh, well, this is a liberal rag, but yeah, they've done some real journalism here and

00:06:59.120 give them credit for that. No, don't give them any credit. They, they, they only did it because

00:07:03.620 they absolutely had to, and they tried not to, they don't want to, they did because they had to.

00:07:08.480 Um, is it true though? That's really the, that's really the main point here. That's what matters.

00:07:15.360 Um, is it true? Well, I guess we don't know, right? We don't, we don't know exactly if it is or not.

00:07:21.920 Um, it would be a serious crime if it is true. And it would also be really creepy and weird that

00:07:27.160 you married her brother, but we can't say for sure. There is a lot of smoke. And the thing is,

00:07:31.880 it's a very peculiar, peculiar, I should say peculiar. It's a very peculiar type of smoke.

00:07:40.600 It's a, it's a, it's a really weird smoke. Um, it's a smoke that indicates that you married your

00:07:45.200 brother. My point is that that's, if you didn't marry your brother, why would there be any smoke

00:07:52.880 at all in that direction? You see what I'm saying? Most of us have never married our brothers,

00:07:58.600 right? I haven't married my brother. You haven't married yours. Not something most people do.

00:08:02.620 And if you've never married your brother, there probably is not going to be any reason for anyone

00:08:07.460 to ever think you did. It's just, it's not something that will ever come up. You're never

00:08:11.960 going to have to deny it. If you're in a position where you have to deny that you married your

00:08:16.240 brother, that probably means at a minimum, that something really weird is happening.

00:08:22.740 Right? Now there are some accusations that politicians face all the time. There are the

00:08:28.520 more kind of par for the course accusations that almost everyone faces or, or politicians of a certain

00:08:37.040 type are, uh, more likely to face. And in that case, well, then you really have to look at it,

00:08:42.600 look at the evidence. Maybe they did it. Maybe they didn't. You have to look at the evidence here

00:08:47.500 also, but the very fact that there is any evidence is itself a piece of evidence, pretty damning piece

00:08:55.320 of evidence that she did it. Although who knows? Um, in, it's a claim that really is on the surface

00:09:04.160 seems so bizarre and outlandish that a lot of even conservatives, myself included have sort of

00:09:10.340 ignored it up until this point, because we all just assumed it was some rumor started on an internet

00:09:15.120 forum somewhere, but apparently that's not the case. Uh, reading now from the daily wire report

00:09:19.920 on this story says newly discovered official documents released on Sunday suggest that

00:09:24.260 representative Ilhan Omar lived with her current husband, Ahmed Hirzi during the entire time that

00:09:29.840 she was legally married to Ahmed Elmi, the man that critics allege is her brother. The Washington

00:09:36.260 Examiner reports reports that Omar tells her marital history the following way. 2002, Omar married

00:09:44.180 Hirzi in a faith ceremony, but never legally married. 2008, Omar and Hirzi decided to end our relationship

00:09:50.300 in our faith tradition. Early 2009, Omar legally married Elmi. 2011, Omar and Elmi religiously divorced.

00:09:57.720 2011, Omar and Hirzi reconciled. 2017, Omar and Elmi belatedly obtained their legal divorce. 2018, Omar and Hirzi

00:10:05.800 legally married. Very confusing. It's kind of the worst soap opera ever, it sounds like. Um, the, the, the report

00:10:13.960 goes on. Omar's timeline of events appears to conflict with newly uncovered documents from the Washington

00:10:19.340 Examiner's Tiana Lowe, who notes that the evidence suggests that Omar has always been in a marital

00:10:24.040 relationship with Hirzi, even when she was married to Elmi. Um, it goes into the public documents that they

00:10:30.060 found. I'm not going to, I'm tempted to read this entire report. I'm not going to do that because it is very

00:10:35.380 complicated, difficult to explain. I would encourage, just go to dailywire.com and look, look it up and read for

00:10:41.540 yourself. There's a lot of, there are many documents here that flesh all this out that I'm not going to read the

00:10:46.700 specifics of, but you could go and look at it for yourself. Um, this all ties into, you know, she's

00:10:53.180 also, uh, she was the subject of a campaign finance violation probe. Uh, so that's tied into this.

00:11:00.920 And so we've got campaign finance violations, potentially we've got her defrauding the 1.00

00:11:06.160 immigration system, potentially there's also another crime potentially on the list here. And that would be

00:11:11.400 perjury. Um, it, uh, I'm trying to find at the very end of the article, it gets into Omar swore

00:11:21.540 in court that she has no contact with Elmi, her alleged brother and former husband, apparently

00:11:30.180 no contact with him. Doesn't know where he is. Doesn't know anyone in his family. Can't get ahold of

00:11:35.440 him. That's what she swore to the court, but there's reason to believe based on other documents

00:11:41.000 that, um, that's not true either. And that in fact, she lied even then. So, um, this is, uh, this is all

00:11:51.240 just, uh, crazy and devastating for the Democrats, which is why they're ignoring it. Um, and it's why

00:12:01.900 the liberal media wants nothing to do with this because not only is she a Democrat, of course, 0.63

00:12:05.640 and she's one of the fresh faces of the Democrat party and she's kind of a rising star of the

00:12:10.040 Democrat party. But for, for it to turn out that she herself committed immigration fraud,

00:12:19.280 that would be remarkable. Especially when this is something that Republicans are talking about all

00:12:24.760 the time, how you have people defrauding our immigration system. Democrats are saying, oh,

00:12:29.160 that's not really a problem. No one's doing that. And then one of your own people,

00:12:33.860 one of the most visible, a rising star of the Democrat party herself is guilty of it.

00:12:40.740 Potentially, allegedly, well, that's devastating for them.

00:12:45.620 What's even though, what's even more devastating though, I think for me to think about is that

00:12:51.040 as bizarre as all this is, and as horrible as it would be, if it's true,

00:12:59.140 I think it will have no effect on her politically because we know for one, the media is not going

00:13:06.780 to report it. They're running cover for her. And so Democrats can always rely on that. That 1.00

00:13:11.020 can always count on that, that the media is going to cover for them. But so I think a lot of her

00:13:16.580 constituents, a lot of voters will never hear about it. Even if they did hear about it though,

00:13:21.120 in fact, even if Omar came out and admitted and said, yeah, I married my brother, whatever. Hey,

00:13:30.480 love is love. Or if she said, or if she said, I think a better angle for her would be, listen,

00:13:35.540 the immigration system is unjust. It's impossible to get through. I was, you know, I needed to come 1.00

00:13:42.360 here for the sake of my family. My family needed to come to the United States and it was my only

00:13:46.880 option. And so this is, this is your, this is America's fault. This is the fault of the system

00:13:52.780 for forcing me as an immigrant woman to make this difficult choice to marry my brother.

00:14:01.100 She could easily go with that. She could admit it and go with that angle. And I think she would

00:14:05.760 get away with it because her constituents don't, they have no respect for our immigration system. 1.00

00:14:12.060 They don't care about it. And, um, by her, I mean, when I say her, I should say not her

00:14:17.640 constituents, but specifically her voters, her supporters have no respect for our immigration

00:14:22.580 system. They don't care about it. They have no respect for the truth and don't care about that.

00:14:25.980 So the fact that she lied and committed fraud, they don't care about that either. And so she could 0.98

00:14:30.400 easily get away with this. And that probably is the most depressing thing of all, even more

00:14:36.020 depressing than someone marrying their brother. Okay. A couple of, uh, other brief things, both

00:14:42.140 Twitter related. Unfortunately, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, um, tweeted something over the 0.99

00:14:49.880 weekend. They got 172,000 likes. And you'll understand why I'm reading this in a minute when

00:14:56.020 you hear it, because it's so powerful and, uh, brave and insightful. And that's why 172,000

00:15:02.360 people liked it. She said, I have absolutely zero patience for completely certified card

00:15:09.360 carrying flag, waving racists. None. They can take their little tiki torches somewhere else.

00:15:15.380 We don't give them an inch, a second, a sliver of sunlight, nor the time of day. And neither

00:15:20.400 should you. Wow. So, so brave. I mean, the courage, the courage it took to write this.

00:15:30.800 You know, to come out against racism, to say, I don't like racism. You know, uh, I'm against

00:15:38.240 racism. I am anti-racism. Racism. I want no part of it. I just, I can't fathom the courage

00:15:46.380 it takes for, for someone to say this because all the rest of us, we're all like, oh, racism.

00:15:51.400 Uh, I plead the fifth. Yeah. I don't want to talk about that. I'm not going to tell you how

00:15:54.920 I feel about racism. Uh, I'm a little too, I don't want to get into that subject. That's what

00:15:59.900 the rest of us say, right? Because we're so afraid to take this bold stand of coming

00:16:05.140 out against racism. This woman is fearless. Uh, my God, she is, she is a firecracker, isn't

00:16:12.440 she? And I, I especially liked how she, she's coming out against, um, completely certified

00:16:18.480 racists. So if you've got your racist certification and your, and your card, you know, your little

00:16:23.540 business card, I'm a racist. How are you? Um, with your contact information, you know, 0.95

00:16:29.440 because if you meet another racist, then you need to, oh, you're a racist too. Which racist 0.99

00:16:34.180 do you hate? Oh, really? Me too. Well, here's my business card. Uh, look me up sometime and 0.63

00:16:38.580 give me a call. We'll talk. Um, anyway, so she's, she's specifically coming out against

00:16:43.040 those people that with the rate, they're, they've got, they're certified, uh, they're licensed

00:16:46.540 and she's saying, no, thanks. You folks get out of my face. Incredible courage. All right. And then

00:16:55.240 we have a reporter on Twitter, um, Olivia Nuzzi, Nuzzi, Nuzzi, I don't know, relaying a scene from a 0.89

00:17:03.840 Planned Parenthood event where some democratic candidates showed up to this Planned Parenthood

00:17:07.440 event. Speaking of courage, uh, really facing a hostile audience there. And they took questions

00:17:13.080 from people in the crowd at this event. And, um, here's how she describes it. Uh, Olivia,

00:17:19.120 she says at, at Planned Parenthood event, a non-binary activist just asked Castro, uh, how

00:17:25.920 he'll expand sexual and reproductive health for trans people, Julian Castro. Castro responds

00:17:30.960 by first asking which pronoun the activist prefers. They replied, I actually don't use any pronoun,

00:17:36.960 which received some applause. Now I love that sentence. I don't use any pronoun. The whole non-binary

00:17:47.260 choose my own pronoun thing is exposed for the joke that it is in just that one sentence. I don't

00:17:53.160 use any pronoun. I don't use any pronouns. Oh, I actually don't like pronouns. You see the problem

00:18:00.240 there? Yes, you do use pronouns because I is a pronoun. So you do use them. Of course you do.

00:18:08.700 You wouldn't be able to communicate if you didn't at least use a pronoun like I, you need to be able

00:18:14.400 to refer to yourself as I, or you wouldn't be able to communicate just like we need to be able to use

00:18:19.740 words like he and she in order to communicate as well. Otherwise, if we can't use a word like he

00:18:26.540 or she, when referring to you, when talking about you to someone else, which is usually when the

00:18:33.920 words he and she come up, if we're talking to you, then there probably isn't any reason to say

00:18:38.000 he or she. But if we're talking about you to someone else, if we're relaying some information

00:18:42.880 about you, telling a story about you, um, we need to have a pronoun because then otherwise we'd have

00:18:50.680 to say something. It would be like, so I saw Bob today. And Bob told me that when Bob was driving to

00:18:55.720 the store two days ago, Bob got into a car accident, uh, and Bob won't get Bob's car back

00:19:00.640 from the shop for a while, you know, et cetera. It just becomes utterly, uh, ridiculous and just

00:19:08.220 completely silly and nonsensical. But this is what we're expected to do. We're expected to reduce 0.97

00:19:15.680 ourselves to nonsense, to embarrass ourselves, to jump through hoops, to reject the basic rules of 0.99

00:19:21.940 grammar, to make idiots of ourselves, uh, to make a mockery of everyday language, everyday 0.99

00:19:28.240 communication, all because someone has decreed that they don't like a certain pronoun. Oh no, no, 0.99

00:19:36.700 that's, um, I don't, that pronoun is, I don't like that pronoun. Also that verb and that adverb, I don't

00:19:44.660 like those either. Don't use those. Don't use those in my presence. And here's a list of 46 nouns

00:19:51.220 you're no longer, I don't like those. Oh, and here's some adjectives I don't like either.

00:19:56.720 See, it doesn't, you don't get to do that. You don't make the, you don't make grammatical rules.

00:20:03.500 And, and even if we're talking about you, you can't say, well, but certainly if you're talking

00:20:07.140 about me, I can control what you say. No, you can't. You don't get to decide what rules of grammar

00:20:13.840 apply when we're talking about you. It doesn't work that way.

00:20:21.980 I don't, I don't like those pronouns. Well, okay, great. It's good for you. You don't like them. 1.00

00:20:25.380 Uh, fantastic. I, uh, thanks for letting me know, but we're not bending the English language into some

00:20:32.180 distorted shape just to accommodate you. This again, as I often point out is, is just arrogance.

00:20:44.380 There is so much in this non-binary gender, you know, choose your own gender, all that stuff.

00:20:50.700 There, there's a lot of, uh, you know, there's a lot of confusion. People are very confused.

00:20:57.000 Um, a lot of self-loathing involved in it. So that's all there. But then there's also a ton of

00:21:04.880 arrogance where people are, what they want to do is bend the rules of grammar to, to suit them,

00:21:11.680 make everything a million times harder for everybody else. So we've got to jump through all

00:21:16.440 these hoops and we don't know what to say. And we have to use, you know, come up with, we have to

00:21:20.360 sound like, like morons when we're talking of what you're not using any pronoun at all. 0.99

00:21:24.800 Just, just making life harder for everybody else. Uh, just because it would make you feel better. 1.00

00:21:30.660 So along with the confusion, the self-loathing, there's also a ton of arrogance in it,

00:21:35.220 which is why I just have, I have very little patience for it.

00:21:41.120 Um, and I think sometimes the correct response to that stuff is just to say, you know what,

00:21:45.940 get over yourself. Really?

00:21:50.680 I don't use any pronouns. What? Oh man. Um, okay. Now here's something that, uh, that,

00:22:01.660 well, let's see a couple other things I wanted to talk about. Well, let's, let's talk about this

00:22:08.820 first. Um, I have to mention advice columnist E Jean Carroll now alleges in a new book, which

00:22:16.460 will be in stores soon, soon that she was raped by Donald Trump some 20 years ago, but they were

00:22:20.900 both in their fifties. Um, she says it happened in the dressing room of an apartment store.

00:22:27.280 They went to the dressing room together consensually. This is what she says.

00:22:30.500 Um, Carol says she went there because she wanted to see Trump try on lingerie and then he raped her, 0.99

00:22:39.960 she says. And, uh, but she's not going to press charges because she also says that to press charges 0.94

00:22:45.240 would be disrespectful of migrant women. That's what she said. I, what's the connection? Why,

00:22:53.460 how would that be disrespectful to my, it's so it's, if you're raped and you press a charge,

00:22:57.740 it's just what, um, but there's a lot of that. There's a lot of what in this story. There are a

00:23:03.700 lot of things that just don't make any sense. Um, you know, that I'm not one to reflexively defend

00:23:09.220 Trump. If I thought he was guilty, I would say so. If I thought there was some credibility to these

00:23:13.120 claims, I would say so, but I've, I have a hard time with this. Let's start with the fact that she

00:23:17.600 was raped by the now president of the United States, but said nothing about it until she wrote it 0.83

00:23:23.680 in a book. Saving a rape accusation for a book is just, well, it doesn't help your credibility.

00:23:31.740 If this actually happened, wouldn't you just come out and say it, say it, especially during the

00:23:37.300 campaign before he's president, but you, you, you write it in a book and you use it to sell the book.

00:23:44.820 Um, that it's hard for me to believe that an actual rape victim would make that choice.

00:23:57.040 Let's, uh, let's hear Carol herself actually describe the scene here. She is on CNN, uh,

00:24:01.920 talking about this accusation. When we walked into the lingerie department,

00:24:06.920 there was nobody there, which is strange. It was in the evening. So,

00:24:11.880 and on the counter were three really fancy boxes and a see-through bodysuit. He walked right to

00:24:20.060 the bodysuit and snatched it up and said, go put this on. Now that struck me as so funny because

00:24:25.760 here I am, 52, I am not going to be put. My idea was, I said, no, you put it on. And he said,

00:24:32.560 no, it looks like it fits you. I said, no, it goes with your eyes. So I am spinning a comedy scene

00:24:37.980 in my head. Of course, banter back and forth. I get it. But you see how funny that would be to

00:24:42.920 make him put that on. Yes. And you, by the way, used to be a comedy writer on Saturday Night Live.

00:24:48.160 You were engaging in this banter as I think many of us would. Yes. Because you didn't know

00:24:53.880 what violence was about to unfold and you could never have known that. How would I know that? Of

00:24:59.060 course. Although I thought I was pretty stupid. Well, I mean, I understand that afterwards, 0.99

00:25:04.180 in retrospect, you blame yourself. Many women in this situation do. Okay. So you notice how

00:25:11.240 Alison Camerata, the CNN anchor there, is literally coaching her through the accusation.

00:25:18.320 She's framing it for the accuser, helping her to explain it. She's walking her through it,

00:25:27.580 giving her answers for any questions that might come up, saying, oh yeah, that's totally normal.

00:25:33.560 I think she even said, oh, when Carol said that she wanted to go in the dressing room so that 0.72

00:25:42.360 Trump could try on see-through lingerie and didn't Camerata said something like, as anyone would,

00:25:47.760 or something like that. As anyone would, really? Anyone would ask Donald Trump to come into a

00:25:52.360 dressing room and try on see-through lingerie? I don't think anyone would do that. I wouldn't.

00:25:57.400 If I met Donald Trump, that would probably not be something that I would request. I think most of

00:26:05.540 us wouldn't do that. So it's very bizarre. Now, I could believe that they meet in this department

00:26:14.680 store for whatever reason. Trump makes a flirtatious, half-joking comment about, hey, try on this.

00:26:22.200 And then she says, why don't you try it on? So I could believe that part. End scene right there,

00:26:30.100 right? But then, so she actually goes into the dressing room with him so that he could literally

00:26:38.540 try it on with her right there in the room with him. And she says, oh, it's a comedy scene. I've

00:26:45.780 hatched a comedy scene. Oh, this will be hilarious. Hey, this will be a, hey guy, hey guy, I really

00:26:51.600 don't know at all. Wouldn't it be hilarious if you tried on this lingerie in the dressing room? I'll

00:26:55.860 come in with you, get naked, try it on. It'll be, it'll be hilarious. We'll have a great laugh about 0.99

00:26:59.640 it. Um, I, uh, maybe, but maybe that happened. I, I have a hard time believing it. It's just

00:27:07.240 really bizarre. And so you have to apply the principle of, um, we don't know what happened.

00:27:16.060 We'll never know for sure. Now we have to look at the story, see the two possibilities.

00:27:26.520 One is that she made this up. The other is that it actually happened. Um, and then it's simply a

00:27:34.080 matter of for us. What's, which one is more plausible? Is it more plausible that this woman,

00:27:41.960 uh, randomly decided to go into a dressing room with Donald Trump so he could try a lingerie 0.98

00:27:46.500 that he raped her right there in the middle of the department store. And, uh, and then she ran away. 0.97

00:27:51.700 She didn't tell anybody about it publicly anyway, until she wrote it in a book so she could sell the

00:27:56.780 book. Is that plausible or is it more plausible that she just made this up to sell a book?

00:28:05.080 Or as kind of an in-between option that she really did have some kind of encounter with Donald Trump

00:28:11.220 that was actually consensual that maybe she then regretted or felt weird about. And then,

00:28:16.200 you know, so there's also that possible of all those possibilities, which is,

00:28:20.520 which is the least plausible. It seems to me right now, um,

00:28:24.900 barring more evidence being produced, which I don't know what kind of evidence could be produced.

00:28:30.040 The, the least plausible option is that it happened exactly as she describes in my view.

00:28:39.120 All right. Um, let's, we've also got Elizabeth Warren now calling for gay reparations for reparations 1.00

00:28:47.280 for gay people. Uh, not a joke. She really is calling for that. And, uh, but I think I'll save

00:28:52.520 that for tomorrow. We'll talk about that tomorrow because I think that deserves, um, a closer

00:28:59.260 inspection. All right. We'll do some emails, mattwalshowatgmail.com, mattwalshowatgmail.com.

00:29:05.840 This is from Brad says, Hey Matt, is there anything on this planet as narcissistic as the modern day

00:29:11.600 bridal shower? Please enlighten your audience with a classic Matt Walsh rant. Well, I don't know if I

00:29:16.940 have a classic Matt Walsh rant for you. I'm not sure what that, what, what constitutes a classic

00:29:20.660 Matt Walsh rant. Um, I will say that I think not just the bridal shower, but the whole wedding scene

00:29:28.620 has become, of course, and I'm not the first person to point this out, of course. Uh, but the whole

00:29:34.500 wedding scene has become, has, has become incredibly narcissistic and self-centered and, and, um,

00:29:39.260 and kind of absurd. And, and, uh, I mean, we all do it. I, I did it. I had the classic traditional

00:29:46.820 wedding traditional by our standards today, where you spend more money than you probably need to.

00:29:51.240 And it's a whole big production and blah, blah, blah. So we did it. Uh, it's what most people do.

00:29:56.760 Um, but yeah, I think it probably is. I don't, I guess I don't have much of a rant at all. I'm just,

00:30:02.700 I'm, I am just sort of nodding my head in agreement with you. I think it is more narcissistic and,

00:30:07.620 and, and, and more involved, the more expensive than it needs to be. And, um,

00:30:15.340 so there you go. Not much of a rant. Sorry. Uh, this is from Allison says, Matt, huge fan of the

00:30:26.740 show. I'm wondering what your thoughts are about the situation in Indy so far. Three area Catholic

00:30:31.480 schools have been directly impacted by LGBTQ issues and firings related to them. Earlier this

00:30:37.560 school year, um, Ron Sali high school, I think it's, I pronounced it fired a guidance counselor

00:30:43.380 after she was outed for being gay in the last two days, two other high schools, both more prominent

00:30:48.540 in the Catholic community were pressured by the archdiocese to fire LGBTQ members. Um,

00:30:55.460 Brie booth. Why can't they just, these just have normal names that I can pronounce. I don't sound

00:30:59.100 like a moron. Uh, Brie, Brie booth, Brie bow Jesuit preparatory school decided not to fire them was 0.98

00:31:07.180 immediately excommunicated from the archdiocese cat cathedral, uh, high school shockingly just days

00:31:12.560 after made the opposite decision. I'm a 2010 alum of cathedral high school who was having a ton of

00:31:19.080 thoughts about this issue. Here is cathedral's official explanation. Um, which she links to,

00:31:23.780 which, uh, so again, my question to you are these, do you think this handling of LGBTQ employees will

00:31:30.820 continue at Catholic institutions nationally? Do you agree with cathedrals handling of the situation?

00:31:37.000 Thanks for your thoughts. Um, whether it will be national, it really depends on the arch on the

00:31:44.980 diocese. Um, do I agree with their handling? Listen, I don't like to see anybody get fired.

00:31:53.780 But if you're going to work for a Catholic school, and this is something that Catholic 0.95

00:32:00.880 schools are upfront about at the, at the outset. And, and, and, and, and I don't know about this,

00:32:06.280 if this is specifically the case here, but in many Catholic schools, you have to sign something

00:32:10.120 swearing that you believe in and will uphold Catholic teaching.

00:32:17.220 And even if you don't have to sign something, if you do have to sign it, then to me, it's clear cut.

00:32:21.380 If you signed anything, if you at any point made, it made any kind of official oath to uphold Catholic

00:32:28.680 teaching and you were lying, then of course you should be fired. And I don't care what you were,

00:32:33.920 what the issue is, whether it's gay, a gay issue or anything else you lied, you, you got hired under 0.79

00:32:39.600 false pretenses. And so of course you should be fired there. But let's say that you didn't have to, 0.97

00:32:43.980 you didn't really have to sign anything. Um, but you're still going to work at a Catholic high

00:32:49.780 school, which the job of a Catholic high school or Catholic school of any grade is to educate kids,

00:32:59.820 but also, um, to instill Catholic values. And so that's your job.

00:33:05.960 Your job is partially at least and substantially to help instill Catholic values and an understanding

00:33:14.840 of Catholic teaching. So you have to know that before you get the job at the Catholic school.

00:33:21.140 And if you get that job, even though you reject Catholic teaching, um, then you're just not suited for

00:33:32.140 that position. You, you, it's not like you could go work. It's not like Catholic schools are the only

00:33:39.840 option. You go to public school, you go to a private school that's not Catholic, but the Catholic 0.55

00:33:48.800 church does not hide. The Catholic church makes no qualms about, um, uh, about its position on these

00:33:56.140 topics. Everybody knows. So, you know, that going in. And so that's where I, that's where I stand on

00:34:03.700 that. So I fully support their decision to fire them because it's not, you know, you, you clearly

00:34:09.200 are, you, you've taken a job, your job is to instill Catholic values and Catholic teachings.

00:34:13.760 You clearly aren't interested in doing that job. You don't want to do that job because you don't

00:34:19.600 agree with Catholic teaching, which fine, you're free to not agree, but just why go work at a

00:34:26.400 Catholic school of all places of all the options? Why that? It doesn't make any sense to me. 0.97

00:34:35.060 So it's hard for me to have sympathy for these people, even though I do, if you lose your job,

00:34:38.580 I have some sympathy, but still why of all your options, why did you go there? You don't agree.

00:34:43.580 You obviously now think about it. The Catholic church has always taught that marriage is between

00:34:52.000 a man and a woman. That's been the teaching for 2000 years. If you disagree, then that means that

00:35:01.140 you do not, uh, respect or acknowledge the authority of the Catholic church. You think the Catholic

00:35:08.100 church is wrong about a crucial moral issue. And if it is, and it has been wrong for 2000 years,

00:35:14.900 then the Catholic, then you shouldn't listen to the Catholic church at all about anything.

00:35:19.320 You shouldn't be Catholic. You should, why do you even want to work at a Catholic school in that case? 1.00

00:35:26.380 That's the point here. If the Catholic church is wrong about the gay, about the gay issue,

00:35:32.220 which I don't think they are, but if they are, then that means the Catholic church has been wrong 0.96

00:35:38.120 about a crucial moral issue, theological issue for 2000 years, which means that the entire

00:35:45.200 credibility of the Catholic church is destroyed. And, uh, if that, if it has no credibility, if it's

00:35:50.900 wrong, then again, why? And you, which you must think is the case. If you disagree with it on this

00:35:56.800 issue, then why would you want anything to do with it? Why would you want to teach at the school?

00:36:04.040 I can only assume it's because you have these negative thoughts about the Catholic church and

00:36:09.480 Catholic teaching. And so you want to kind of undermine it from the inside.

00:36:16.100 And if that's your mission, which I would have to assume it is, if you would still go for the job,

00:36:22.200 then, uh, that's all the more reason for the school to fire you because your mission is the exact

00:36:29.720 opposite of the stated mission of the school. So that's where I stand on that. And, uh, I think

00:36:36.840 we'll leave it there for today. Thanks for watching everybody. Thanks for listening. Godspeed.

00:36:52.200 Today on the Ben Shapiro show, the Democrats get increasingly radical. Now it's free college for

00:37:00.820 everyone ever. That's today on the Ben Shapiro show.

The Matt Walsh Show - June 24, 2019

Ep. 282 - Did Ilhan Omar Marry Her Brother？

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