Ep. 289 - Why Stay In A Country You Hate？
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Summary
Colin Kaepernick is offended by the flag. He thinks that it stands for racism and slavery. Well, at what point does he just leave the country in search of one that is not so racist and terrible? Also, a congresswoman says that it should be illegal to make fun of politicians. And some people online are pointing out that Kamala Harris is not African-American. Is that racist?
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, Colin Kaepernick is offended by the flag. He thinks that it stands
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for racism and slavery and all that. Well, at what point, and it sounds cliche to say,
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but at what point does he just leave the country in search of one that is not so racist and
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terrible? Also, a congresswoman says that it should be illegal to make fun of politicians.
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And some people online are pointing out that Kamala Harris is not African-American.
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It is racist, apparently, to point this out. But why would that be racist? We'll try to
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figure that out today on the Matt Wall Show. Okay, a bunch of topics to cover before we
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wrap things up for the week and get ready for the 4th of July. Remember, as we head into the 4th of
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July, that it's important to keep in mind the top three most overrated 4th of July activities are
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fireworks, parades, and sparklers. Now, I have kids, so my 4th of July is going to be consumed by all
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three of those awful things. But if you can escape it, then I would. There are more worthwhile ways
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to spend your time on a holiday, like drinking and eating. Do more of that. The thing with,
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of course, as I've said before, with parades, a parade is just a festive traffic jam. You're just
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basically watching a traffic jam with some of the vehicles dressed up in interesting ways.
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Fireworks are fun to watch for about three minutes. I've never seen a fireworks display that could hold
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my attention for more than three minutes because, you know, you see the first firework, you're like,
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oh, that was great. And the second firework, it's like, oh, did you see that one? Of course I saw it.
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I mean, I'm sitting in the dark and there's explosions. Of course I saw it. Yeah, it was good.
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And then another one, oh, yeah, okay, good, nice. I think after that third one, though, it's kind of
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like, okay, I get it. I mean, I get the point. I understand what you're doing here. Explosions in
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the sky. Great. Can we go home now? So that's, that's what it is with fireworks. I would just
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have more creativity this, this weekend. Think of more, think of more creative things to do with
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your time. Speaking of the 4th of July, I want to begin with this Colin Kaepernick thing. We talked
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about it briefly yesterday, just to recap, Nike recalled a patriotic American flag shoe after
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Colin Kaepernick, who they're paying hundreds of millions of dollars to as a sponsor, even though
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he's not an athlete and doesn't do anything anymore these days, after he complained and he said he didn't
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like it. Now this is, this is obviously so self-evidently absurd and disgraceful, such a cowardly
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surrender to political correctness that there's not a lot that can be said about it. Colin Kaepernick
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reportedly felt that the flag, which is a Betsy Ross flag from the American revolution, he thought that
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it somehow represents slavery. As I pointed out yesterday, well, if that's the case, then every,
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pretty much every flag in the world represents slavery. At least every flag of every country 200
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years old or older represents slavery because they all had slaves. But the one notable thing
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about this, which is not very surprising, but at least it does kind of reveal the truth,
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is that we finally see that Colin Kaepernick's kneeling stunt has all along been actually about
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the flag. It's been about, it's been about hating the flag and about hating America. We were told for
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years that it wasn't about that. We were told that the kneelers were not protesting the flag
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or the country or the national anthem. Um, there was this viral tweet. I don't know if you ever saw it
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got like 300,000 likes on Twitter last year. And it kind of summed up this defense. It said Rosa Parks
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was not protesting the bus. Gandhi was not protesting the food. The colonists were not protesting tea.
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Players are not protesting the flag or the anthem. They are protesting injustice. Okay. That,
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and that's the, it's a protest of injustice. That's the slogan we kept hearing. The media said it,
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um, LeBron James is one of the highest profile defenders of the anthem protests. He said the same
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thing. Kyle, Colin Kaepernick, who started it all said that he was trying to call attention to,
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to injustice also to what he calls police violence. Um, but it wasn't about the flag. They said
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in case anyone was actually fooled by that. Now we know it was indeed about the flag. It was always
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about the flag. Um, because now he doesn't want the flag on the shoe. So that, that can't be about
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injustice. That's just about that. He doesn't like the flag. Colin Kaepernick does not like this
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country. That much is pretty clear by now. He's rich and famous and he's free. And those are all
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things that he probably would not be if he lived in any number of other countries, but his privilege
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has made him bitter and he's free to be bitter and he's free to hate this country. But I think
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he should be honest about where he stands or kneels as the case may be. Now, um, I wanted to make one
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other point about this. We all, we, that's all the stuff that we've talked about yesterday. Um,
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one of the, and I've seen this again online the last couple of days over this shoe thing.
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One of the sort of cliched responses to this kind of issue, especially with respect to Kaepernick
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is to say, Hey buddy, if you don't like America, you can get out. Right. Um, South Park did a whole
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episode about the back when South Park was funny. They did an episode about that. And it does at this
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point sound sort of corny and cliched to say it. And oftentimes people are wrong when they say it.
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Oftentimes somebody will simply criticize American culture or American government or the laws or
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whatever. Um, and then someone will respond with a get out line, but see, it doesn't work there
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because why should I leave this country? Just because I think the culture of government can be
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improved. Maybe I want to stay here and improve it. So there's nothing, there's nothing unpatriotic
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about criticizing the country, uh, in and of itself, nothing unpatriotic about that. In fact,
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to insist that you can't criticize the country is itself unpatriotic because that's one of the
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things that sets us apart is that you can get up there and say basically whatever you want,
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at least as it stands right now, although that's probably changing as it stands right now,
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you can get up in public and basically say whatever you want about, uh, the state of things and,
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and offer your criticism. That's what set us apart. It's a perfectly patriotic thing to do.
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I think it was, uh, it was either Chesterton or Lewis who's, who made the point that,
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you know, um, it's, it's not unpatriotic to criticize the country, just like it wouldn't be
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unloving for you to warn your mother that she's about to wander over the edge of a cliff. It would
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actually be unloving if you didn't. So in the same way, if you love this country, you are going to
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criticize the things about it that are actually bad. But I do think the get out response is
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appropriate. Sometimes, even if it's cliched, uh, there there's truth to it. And I think that's the
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case with the Kaepernick thing. And here's the difference because it seems that Kaepernick
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and many other leftists, such as the ones who want to tear down murals of George Washington and,
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and Jefferson, it seems that their beef is with America's, um, it's with their America. It's with
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America's current situation. Yes. But also with America's past, they think America is a fundamentally
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racist country and that it's past sins stain it and will always stain it. Um, and that it's a country
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that has no right to exist because the land is stolen, et cetera. In other words, they hate America
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for things that cannot be changed. Um, we can't change the past. If you hate America for things
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that can't be changed, then yeah, you really should get out. I mean, that, that actually is the only
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logical response. And, and why wouldn't you want to get out if that's how you feel about it?
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It's like, uh, like I said, the, the people who can't get over the fact that this country was
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supposedly built on stolen land, which of course, by that logic, every country, uh, has no right to
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exist because they're all built on stolen land, quote unquote. Um, the, the borders of countries are
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not generally established through friendly discussion. And it's especially, they weren't
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established that way in the past. Um, that's how, that, that's how the map looks the way it is now
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all across the world. It's through fighting and dying. And, and, and, and that's just,
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that's the way the world has worked. Um, there's America is not unique in that way, just like America
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is not unique with slavery. But if you really think that America has no right to exist, that the land is
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stolen, then why are you still here? I think it's a good question that I've never heard a good answer
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to. Um, I would even say that you're morally obligated to leave the country. If that's how you
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feel, the people say, Oh, I'm going to be proud in this country. We stole the land. It's fundamentally
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racist. It was built on slavery. So we can't change, even if those things are all true, we can't change
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it. Um, there's, there's nothing we can do. It's not like we can all work together to make those
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things change. We can't go back into the past. We can't get into a time machine. So if you can't
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get over that, if you hate the country because of it, um, if we can't even celebrate our history
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because of it, if we can't have traditions and the real culture because of it in your mind,
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then I think the only logical thing for you to do is just to leave and go to another country.
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Now, like I said, wherever you go, you're going to inevitably end up in an area where there used to be
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slavery. Maybe there still is depending on where you go, um, where, you know, the land was quote
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unquote stolen. I mean, that's going to be the case wherever you go. But, um, I mean, if you're,
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if you're blaming America, if you're pointing America out as this unique evil, then you must
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not think that you must not realize that that must not be the way you see it. You must think that
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there are places in the world where it's, you know, where they're not stained by any of these
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things where it's all perfect. And well, then go to one of those places. And I think that would
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work out best for everybody. It's just, it's the most logical and the most moral response.
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Um, I, you know, I personally, people get upset when you hear these, uh, celebrities or whoever
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threatened to leave the country. I'm not upset by that. By all means, you should leave. I would
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actually have a lot of respect for somebody like Colin Kaepernick. If he said, you know what? I'm
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fed up with this country. I hate it so much. Um, I'm gone. I'm moving to wherever I would have a ton
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of respect for that. I wouldn't agree. Uh, I would think that you suffer from an extraordinary amount
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of historical ignorance, but I would at least respect the follow through. And I would respect it
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too, because you would be making a sacrifice because there are a lot of privileges. There's a
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lot of comfort in this country that you're not going to find in other countries. And to give that
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up in order to follow your convictions, even if they are somewhat twisted and misguided, I'd respect
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that. But that's not what these people do. Colin Kaepernick remains in this country, living off the fat
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of the land, uh, living off of the, the, the, uh, privilege and, and, and comforts that have been
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established in his mind, established through oppression and evil and everything. And he, he takes
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advantage of it. So he's way worse than any of the rest of us to actually see it that way. And yet
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to stay here anyway, because, oh, well, I'm rich. Uh, that is, I mean, you'd have to be some kind of
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sociopath. All right. Um, Democrat representative Frederica Wilson is, uh, not a very smart person.
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And when I say that you might accuse me of making fun of Frederica Wilson, which I am,
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but according to Frederica Wilson, I should go to jail for making fun of her. She, here's what she
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had to say at a press conference yesterday. Watch this. Those people who are online making fun
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of members of Congress are a disgrace. And there's no need for anyone to think that is unacceptable.
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We're going to shut them down and work with whoever it is to shut them down and they should
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be prosecuted. You cannot intimidate members of Congress, threaten members of Congress. It
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is against the law. And this is a shame in this United States of America. Okay. A few things here.
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Number one, this, this woman has not to continue making fun of her, especially if it's illegal,
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but this woman has the most annoying voice I have ever heard in my life. Hands down. She sounds like
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a cartoon character and she wears the hat of account cartoon character either also. Um, and she says
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that people who make fun of members of Congress should be prosecuted. So she is very explicitly
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coming out against the first amendment. Just so we're clear about what's going on here. That's she,
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she doesn't believe in the first amendment. She wants, she wants us to repeal it basically,
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because you would have to repeal it in order to make it illegal, to make fun of members of Congress,
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especially when the first amendment exists, uh, in large part for specifically that to, to criticize,
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make fun of whatever people in power. That's why we need the first amendment. So she's saying,
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no, let's get rid of it. And, uh, she says, but she says, if I, if I heard correctly, she says
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when referring to people making fun of Congress members, uh, she said, there is, there is no need
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to think that it is unacceptable. So what does that mean? There's no need to think that it's
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unacceptable. She's saying that it, it isn't acceptable, but she says there's no need to think
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that it's unacceptable, which means that it is acceptable. I, I, I'm just, this woman is
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babbling incoherently. Maybe what she meant to say is there's no need to think period that is
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unacceptable. Maybe that's what she meant. There's no need to think period end of sentence
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that is unacceptable. It's unacceptable to think. In other words, I think maybe that's what she was
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trying to say, which if it is unacceptable to think, then, um, at least Frederick Wilson
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is safe from any criticism in that regard. All right. Um, I said, we're going to, we're going to
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blow through them today. Uh, try to get through as many as we can. Tucker Carlson did a great segment
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yesterday. Um, and I want to play that segment for you, but before we do backing up, just to give
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context here, there's been a controversy these past few days over an alleged birtherism
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movement that has supposedly popped up around Kamala Harris. Um, people are claiming that Kamala
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Harris is not a real African-American because she's actually half Jamaican and half Indian,
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which she is. So it's true. Uh, it's, it's true. She's not African-American. She's Jamaica is not
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Africa. Um, India is not Africa. So she's, she's not African. And that's simply a true statement.
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It's not a conspiracy theory. Now the whole birtherism refers originally to the idea that,
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uh, Barack Obama is, is not a, either not a natural born citizen or not a citizen at all,
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depending on who you talk to. That was a conspiracy theory. It was also untrue.
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Uh, he, he was a natural born citizen. Um, but this is true. So it's not a conspiracy theory.
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It's just, she's not, it's not an insult. It's not racist. It's just a true fact. That's all.
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Now this whole thing started with a tweet, a tweet from a guy named Ali Alexander, who after the debate
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last week tweeted, um, and said, Kamala Harris is not an American black. She is half Indian and half
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Jamaican. I'm so sick of people robbing American blacks like myself of our history. It's disgusting.
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Now using it for debate time at Dem debate. These are my people, not her people. Freaking
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disgusting. Then later he tweeted, your family does not descend from American black slaves. Stop
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appropriating our history. It's why you have to remain vague lest your voters find you and your
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family history out. Okay. Now if you caught it there, this man himself is black. He is African
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American. So this began with a black guy saying, she's not really one of us. Uh, she's with different
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ethnicity, different race, which is fine. Okay. Now when I'm reading Alexander, Ali Alexander's tweet,
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I don't read that he's criticizing her race or something, or that he's saying anything racist.
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He's just saying from his perspective, it seems to him that she is either explicitly or implicitly
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trying to, um, uh, as he says, appropriate an identity that doesn't belong to her.
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So given the fact that he's African American to say that this is a racist thing with Kamala Harris
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is absurd. It started with a black man. He's the one at the forefront here. Now the media doesn't
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want you to know that Ali Alexander is black and they really don't want you to know. And to
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understand just how much they really don't want you to know, watch this, uh, from Wolf Blitzer on CNN.
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President Donald Trump Jr. He deleted a post, a tweet, uh, that he had, uh, over the weekend.
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Uh, he deleted this message. Uh, somebody else wrote Kamala Harris is not an American black.
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She's half Indian, half Jamaican. Uh, Donald Trump Jr. Added on top of that retweet. Is this true?
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Wow. And then he went ahead and deleted it. Uh, Kamala Harris's, uh, a mother was from India.
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Father was from Jamaica. I don't know if you noticed that it was a little bit subtle.
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They showed the screenshot of Trump Jr.'s tweet. Um, and which is, uh, apparently controversial.
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But did you notice something strange about the screenshot in the screenshot? You see Trump's
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retweet of Ali Alexander, but what's missing from it? Ali Alexander's photo is not in the,
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now if you go and you retweet someone on Twitter, you're going to, you're going to be, um, retweeting
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their, the text of their tweet along with their profile picture, their avatar, right? Um, CNN took
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the time apparently to go in and edit it, remove Ali Alexander's face from the tweet so that nobody
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would know that it was a black guy who originally said this. So really when, when, when Don Jr.
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retweeted that, um, retweeted that, he was simply agreeing with, or not even agreeing, just sort of
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reacting to something that a black guy had said about Kamala Harris. They don't want you to know
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that because then it's harder to paint Donald Trump Jr. as a, as a racist. So they removed his,
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his photo. That's, I mean, that is remarkable really. I know we're used to these underhanded
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deceptive tactics, especially by CNN, but that goes several steps beyond what we usually see,
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but it gets worse than that for CNN. The people who are saying, is she black enough? That's bull.
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That's BS. But to, to, to want a distinction to say, is she African-American or is she black or is
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she whatever that what's, there is nothing wrong with that. All she had to do was say, I am black,
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but I'm not African-American. That's it. When she goes down her lineage, many Africans landed on,
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in Jamaica and all these other Caribbean islands. So she could indeed be African-American mixed with
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others, but she is not America, but she is a black woman. She was born here. Okay, well,
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let's go into tech. So there you go. I mean, see, they, Don, first of all, is it really Don
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Lamont? I thought it was Don Lemon. I've been saying Don Lemon. Is it really Lamont? Don Lamont?
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How did I, or is that just something Tucker Carlson? I don't know. I don't, I get, you know,
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I really don't watch CNN. Um, I just see these people's names written. So I, I always assumed it
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was Don Lemon. Anyway, I guess Lamont sounds a little bit classier, I suppose. Um, but there it is,
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you know, you've got Lamont slash Lemon himself making this point. And this is a point that, you know,
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I mean, it, it, it goes without saying, but I'm going to say it anyway. If, if Kamala Harris was a
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Republican woman, same ethnicity, Republican woman, and a black guy on the left made this point about
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Kamala Harris, you would be racist for disagreeing with what the black guy is saying. Okay. If, if you
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switch the ideologies around, then the, then the racist thing would be to not jump on the, the
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birther bandwagon, uh, to defend Kamala Harris would be racist because then you'd be accused
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of, Oh, is what are you defending? So you're claiming that, uh, uh, being Jamaican and being
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African-American are the same thing. Like it's a, it's all the same. You're a racist. You're a big,
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that's usually the racist thing to point out the distinction and say, well, Jamaica is not Africa
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and it's not the same thing. That's to point out the distinction is usually the respectful
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thing. And to deny the distinction is racist, but it's been flipped around now because of the,
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because of the ideological makeup of the situation. All right, let's check in with the humorless
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feminist scolds. Um, an article over on the website eater written by Jaya Saxena, not sure if that's her
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real name or not, deals with the scourge of, um, of restaurants making jokes on their menus.
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The, the headline is, um, my girlfriend isn't hungry. Menu items are thinly veiled misogyny.
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And you know that when we're talking about thinly veiled misogyny, you know, it's going to be good.
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So let me read a little bit of this, uh, article to you. It says it's become a trope that when a
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heterosexual couple is out on a date, the woman might say she's not that hungry, but proceed to
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eat some of the man's food. It seems innocent enough, but complaints that these girlfriends
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must be pulling one over on their boyfriends to snag commitment-free nachos has proliferated to a
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point where restaurants across the country are offering dishes and menus for the quote, not hungry date.
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Mama D's in Little Rock, Arkansas is the latest restaurant to go viral for the menu addition.
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The $4.25, my girlfriend is not hungry special gives you the option of adding extra fries,
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wings, or cheese sticks to your already existing meal. In another light, it would be a lovely way
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to offer couples a way to split food on the cheap, but it's framed as a burden. A man on a date must
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endure for sex later. The ability to joke about her appetite on social media. Okay. First of all,
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nobody ever said anything about sex. That's this person is throwing that in there. Mama D's isn't
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the only restaurant to offer such a deal. Restaurants in Oregon and New York will double
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your fries. Tangled Hickory in Wisconsin will double your fries and add extra onion rings. I'm
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getting hungry right now reading this. One night stands in Calgary will double your fries and add
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three honey biscuits for the girl who just wants biscuits and fries for dinner. And the tipsy coyote
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in Scottsdale, Arizona has named their entire salad menu. My girlfriend's not hungry because no straight
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man would deign to eat lettuce, which is, which is kind of true. Actually, let's start with the
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acknowledgement that it's not a crime to just want three onion rings. Sometimes actually it is kind of
00:24:38.480
a crime. Who would only want three onion rings? I understand not wanting onion rings at all,
00:24:43.900
but if you're going to have three, I mean, that's it. No. Um, the idea that your girlfriend is
00:24:48.480
intentionally lying to you about how much fried food she wants is based in the men are from Mars
00:24:53.940
and Venus is complicated idea that women are always being coy about what they really mean.
00:24:58.600
And it's a man's job to decipher it. Well, that's kind of true though. I mean, women are often being,
00:25:03.300
I mean, with, with women, it's always like, um, um, um, well, you know, I didn't want to tell you,
00:25:09.100
I want you to just know, right. That's why men are always getting in trouble because, um, they do
00:25:14.320
something that the girl didn't want them to do. Uh, but the girl never said she didn't want the guy
00:25:20.060
to do it or, or they're not doing something that the girl does want the guy to do, but the girl never
00:25:27.940
told the guy she wanted it. And then, and then when the guy points out, like, why didn't you just tell me?
00:25:31.840
Then the girl will say, well, I just wanted you to know. And the reason now credit where it's due to
00:25:39.120
women here, the reason why women expect men to just sort of know intuitively what they want or don't
00:25:48.440
want is that women do have that ability with men. So I, I am convinced that there are times when my
00:25:56.960
wife can literally read my mind. Like she'll, she'll walk into a room and just, um, you know,
00:26:03.560
let's say I'm, I'm a little annoyed about something or something happened with whatever she'll, she'll
00:26:08.280
walk in, she'll immediately sense it. And not only sense that I'm off or annoyed or angry about
00:26:13.440
something, but she'll even know what, what it's about right away. So women have that ability, men
00:26:19.480
don't. And so that's the frustration. Women expect men to be able to do that. We can't do that.
00:26:24.580
We don't have that ability. So most of the time, if you want us to know something, if you want us
00:26:29.820
to do something, you just got to say it. That's all. I mean, it's really as simple as that. Just
00:26:32.840
say, Hey, will you do this? Or will you not do that? Anyway, that's what that's about. Um,
00:26:39.920
back to the article. Uh, let's see. But aside from the misogyny, there are many reasons why anyone
00:26:47.160
might snag some fries without ordering her own. Maybe she can't afford it or understands her partner
00:26:51.860
can't afford two full orders of fries and is trying to be nice about it. Maybe she just really wants a
00:26:56.820
salad, but because salads are great in their own right. And also one onion ring because onion rings
00:27:01.320
are also great. Maybe like many women, she struggles with disordered eating because we live in a society
00:27:06.360
that asks, asks women that women be chill enough to scarf down pizza, but also remain 110 pounds at all
00:27:12.040
times. And, uh, she's stuck in a damned if you do situation where her date will judge her no matter
00:27:16.980
what she orders. Okay. That's just not true. Um, men are not going to judge women based on what you
00:27:23.760
order. We don't, that's the thing. We really don't care. So when you're sitting at the restaurant
00:27:29.440
with your man and you say, Oh, what should I get? The man doesn't get whatever you want. He really
00:27:34.420
doesn't care. Uh, maybe if you're dating and he's paying for it, then he might care if you order the
00:27:40.720
most expensive thing on the menu. So maybe don't do that. Although even if you do that, he's not going to,
00:27:44.740
he's not going to let you know, he cares. He'll still pay for it. Um, but that's the only thing
00:27:48.620
we care about really is the price. That's actually, let me, let me back up and clarify.
00:27:52.480
The only thing we care when it comes to ordering food is just the price outside of that. Just get
00:27:56.320
whatever you want to get three chili dogs. If they're $3 a piece, get as many, get five of them
00:28:00.360
if you want. I mean, it doesn't matter really just whatever you want. It's totally fine. Um,
00:28:07.200
anyway, I'm not gonna, I could keep reading this, but I'm not gonna, you get the idea.
00:28:10.160
Um, I think, um, I cannot imagine writing like six paragraphs about a menu joke, but this is the
00:28:20.660
kind of pettiness that you find among feminists. Now, do you know where this joke comes from?
00:28:26.100
It comes from reality. It comes from real life, from lived experience. Women do in fact often claim
00:28:33.120
they aren't hungry and then proceed to steal your food. That's a thing. It happens. Uh, and in fact,
00:28:39.840
the whole reason the joke works is that it happens so often that people can relate to it. And that's
00:28:45.600
the problem with getting offended by a joke. If the joke works, if you can recognize it as a joke,
00:28:51.140
because people are laughing, then that means it's probably true. That's why it works. Jokes that are
00:28:58.440
based in, in unreality jokes that have no truth to them. Um, don't aren't, no one's going to laugh
00:29:05.960
because it just doesn't make any sense. So it's a joke. Does it tease women a little bit?
00:29:12.600
Is it giving women a little bit of a hard time? Yeah, sure. Uh, fine. Women are being teased.
00:29:17.020
It is, uh, women are, if you want to say it, the butt of the joke in, in some respect. Um,
00:29:22.560
and so what, who cares? Women can handle being teased. They can handle being the butt of the joke.
00:29:27.540
It's, it, I mean, it's, it's not a big deal. Most women can. Some women can't. Feminists
00:29:31.840
cannot. Feminists cannot handle jokes. They can, they, they especially cannot handle being the
00:29:36.160
butt of the joke. They just can't deal with it. But that's all the more reason to tell these jokes.
00:29:42.460
Because I mean, if someone could take a joke, then you should make jokes about them.
00:29:47.760
If someone can't take a joke, that's all the more reason to make jokes about them.
00:29:53.540
You know, there is something insidious here. We talk about how the left is ruining comedy
00:29:58.860
and, um, and they are because they're making it so that we can't joke about the realities and
00:30:06.720
idiosyncrasies of life and of each other. And the effect is, is more than just making restaurant
00:30:12.260
menus more boring. The thing is the reason we like comedy, the reason we like watching a standup,
00:30:19.600
you know, do his thing, give his act. The reason we like to joke about these truths about each other
00:30:26.020
about life and about our experience is that it's unifying. It brings us together. It's,
00:30:31.260
it's kind of a moment for, for all of us to look at each other and recognize the absurdity of
00:30:35.780
everything and just laugh about it. And that's why we enjoy it so much. Um, the joke that always
00:30:42.100
gets the biggest laugh from me is, uh, is if I'm watching a standup or I'm, I just, even I see some,
00:30:49.560
a funny tweet or something, the jokes that for me get the biggest laugh. And I think for most people
00:30:53.640
get the biggest laugh is when it's a joke about something, some personal quirk or whatever
00:30:59.160
that I thought was unique to me, or when someone makes a joke about another person or group of
00:31:07.260
people, or, you know, um, and, and I thought I was the only one who noticed that. And then I see
00:31:14.080
this joke and that will get the biggest laugh because you're saying, Oh, you know, other people
00:31:19.000
experienced this. I didn't realize that. I didn't know other people experienced this. Other people
00:31:22.240
thought like this. And that realization brings joy. It's a good thing. You laugh, you're happy about
00:31:27.580
it. Um, I think ultimately it makes you let feel less alone. I think that's what comedy does. It
00:31:32.980
makes us feel like we're not as alone in the world because there are other people who experience life
00:31:39.400
the same way that we do and have noticed, you know, it's like when you're walking around and you
00:31:43.460
see all this absurdity happening and you're thinking, am I the only one who notices this? Like this doesn't
00:31:47.760
make any sense over here. This is ridiculous over here. This is kind of stupid. And you think
00:31:51.680
you're the only one you feel alone. And then you hear someone make a joke about it. You think, Oh,
00:31:54.900
I'm not alone. Okay. Um, so the joke is not just funny, but it's, it's, it's, um,
00:32:01.760
encouraging in a way as well. You know, I've been around, um, cancer patients who joke with each
00:32:11.000
other, uh, telling very, sometimes very morbid, dark jokes about their situation. And, and that's,
00:32:18.680
that's pretty common people in very rough situations, sad situations, joking about it is
00:32:23.420
common. Why do they joke about it? Because it makes things a little less scary. It makes things
00:32:27.620
less lonely, uh, less sad. I think when you're sick, there are a lot of things about it that are
00:32:34.040
terrible. Um, the fear and the pain and everything, but there's, it's also very lonely because most of
00:32:41.220
the people around you are healthy and they're running around and doing their thing, living their
00:32:44.600
physically capable, healthy lives. And you just feel alone when you're around someone else in the
00:32:49.820
same situation, you kind of joke about your, now you feel less alone. That's what comedy is now.
00:32:53.980
Um, you know, when, when, when I talk about a joke on a menu is, is a small thing. It's like,
00:33:01.720
that's not really what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about comedy in general and jokes in general
00:33:05.820
and what the left is doing. Um, that's the point of humor and that's what the left wants to take away.
00:33:11.780
And they want to take away, especially the morbid humor, the dark humor, the so-called offensive
00:33:16.800
humor, the so-called sexist humor, uh, the humor that deals with race and ethnicity and identity
00:33:22.160
and all of those things. But those are the areas, those are precisely the areas where we need humor
00:33:27.400
the most. Uh, we need that unifying force, that thing that tells us it's not as serious as we
00:33:33.380
thought. I mean, those are when the people say, Oh, well, yeah, you could tell jokes. I mean,
00:33:36.440
never joke about race, never joke about, uh, the other gender. I mean, those are exactly the
00:33:41.280
things we should joke about. Those are, that's that, those are the funniest jokes, not because
00:33:45.500
it's mean or you're trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but just because it, it's just,
00:33:49.660
these are our, we all experience it. All right. Um, so that's, uh, that's feminism for you.
00:33:58.300
Let's move on to emails, mattwalshowatgmail.com, mattwalshowatgmail.com. Uh, this is from Maria says,
00:34:05.400
dear Matt, I have to disagree with your take on mini AOC, though. I agree that her parents are
00:34:10.300
messing up. I have an eight and 12 year old. They want nothing more than to become YouTube stars
00:34:14.600
because that's their generation's movie star. I made a couple of YouTube videos and they begged
00:34:19.080
me to be in them. And I've told them, no, I would argue that mini AOC's mom's failure is not in
00:34:24.100
putting the idea in her head, but by not protecting her from entering the public arena before she's old
00:34:29.360
enough to even form her own opinions. Appreciate your show and your opinions on issues. So I don't think
00:34:33.780
you do disagree. That's how, I mean, we're in agreement. Basically the basic point here is
00:34:37.200
that we shouldn't be, we shouldn't be using our kids to make political points. We shouldn't be
00:34:41.700
turning our kids into viral stars, um, at all, uh, especially not in a political context,
00:34:49.840
because then you're, you're guaranteeing that there's going to be even more hatred and vile comments
00:34:56.580
coming their way. Um, and you're just, you're, you're throwing them into a very volatile situation on top
00:35:01.720
of all the other problems with doing that. So I think we agree with that. I guess the only thing
00:35:05.780
you're disagreeing with is I said that no eight-year-old naturally wants to be, uh, a viral
00:35:11.660
video star. And what you're saying is, well, some eight-year-olds actually do want that, but as
00:35:15.640
parents, we're supposed to, of course, tell them no, because we're the parents. Maybe you're right
00:35:18.940
about that. Look, you know, my, I don't have an eight-year-old, as I said, my, my oldest are six
00:35:22.280
years old. Um, and there is a significant difference between a six-year-old and eight-year-old.
00:35:26.360
So I can say that my six-year-olds, the idea of being a viral star is like not even on their
00:35:32.060
radar. They wouldn't even know what that means. Maybe at eight, it becomes a little bit more on
00:35:36.160
a kid's radar. Um, but I will say that certainly with this girl, how she's a essentially a political
00:35:43.480
satirist, um, I can tell you no eight-year-old wants that. I mean, no eight-year-old even knows
00:35:48.720
what political satire is or understands it. Okay. There's just, I'm sorry. There's no eight-year-old
00:35:54.000
smart enough to understand political satire. Most adults don't understand it. I, I write
00:35:59.260
satirical pieces myself and the majority of adults are, are these days are too stupid to
00:36:03.960
understand satire when they see it. Uh, kids, even if they're not stupid, but very smart,
00:36:07.900
which I'm sure this girl's very smart girl. Um, at eight year old, eight years old, they just
00:36:11.460
don't, they, they don't, they don't, they don't get it. They don't understand it. So she doesn't
00:36:16.200
understand what she's doing. She doesn't get the humor herself. Um, she can't, she's eight.
00:36:22.460
All right. Uh, from Brandon, uh, Matt, I love the show. My question was regarding religion.
00:36:30.220
I've always been a Christian by default as I've never grown up practicing religion, but my family
00:36:35.180
would go to church on special occasions. My question is, do you take all stories in the
00:36:38.920
Bible? Literally? I've been having issues with my faith because I want to believe all of it,
00:36:43.080
but I have trouble when it comes to fully believing stories that involve talking snakes. Well, you're
00:36:48.560
going to get me in trouble. Uh, Brandon, we've, we've talked about this in the past. My view on
00:36:54.720
it is not a secret. Um, although I guess if you didn't watch the show months ago, maybe it is a
00:37:00.860
secret. I don't, well, let's establish a couple of things. First of all, nobody takes the entire
00:37:08.440
Bible. Literally, that would not make sense to say that. Oh yeah, I take it all literally. Well,
00:37:13.000
what, what, what does that mean? I mean, because there, there are things in the Bible. The Bible
00:37:17.380
is a collection of, um, many different books of many different genres. They're not all the same
00:37:24.800
genre. The entire Bible is not just a story. Um, there are, you know, there are Psalms,
00:37:33.000
there are lamentations, uh, there's the wisdom literature, you know, there's, there's exhortation,
00:37:40.020
there are epistles, uh, there are, you know, teachings, uh, commandments. I mean, there are
00:37:45.880
all kinds of things like that, which don't really qualify as stories in my mind. And among those
00:37:51.680
things now, something like a commandment, a direct instruction where God is saying, do this or don't
00:37:57.360
do that. Well then, yeah, we take that literally. I mean, that's, that's the perfect example of a
00:38:00.520
thing you do take literally. Right. Um, but something like a Psalm, I mean, what does it mean to take
00:38:06.340
the Psalms literally? Well, nobody does. It doesn't make any sense. It's poetry by definition.
00:38:11.720
You don't take poetry. Literally there's truth there. So you do get at the truth. But when you're
00:38:17.420
taught, when you're reading, if you read poetry, literally, you're reading it like a robot.
00:38:22.200
And then if there's a, if there's a metaphor or something or, or imagery, it's like you're,
00:38:26.560
you try to take it literally, then you're not, you're just not reading it like a human being.
00:38:30.940
Uh, Jesus tells parables. Of course we don't take the parables literally in the sense
00:38:36.220
that when Jesus tells a certain parable, whether it's about the prodigal son, uh, or, or any other
00:38:41.300
parable, uh, or the, you know, the good Samaritan, he's not, um, trying to say that, that this thing,
00:38:49.500
this event actually happened, like there really was a prodigal son, but there's a point to the story,
00:38:56.740
a message that we're meant to understand. Um, so that's the first thing.
00:39:03.200
And then related to that, we, we just, when we're looking at any particular part of the Bible or any
00:39:12.020
particular story or passage in the Bible, if we want to understand how we are to take it or read
00:39:18.800
it, then the first thing we have to do is figure out what genre is it. So, as I said, the parable
00:39:25.580
genre, that's a whole genre. So we read a parable, we know, and we recognize, okay, this is a parable.
00:39:29.640
We don't take it literally. We are looking for truth. We're looking for a message. We're not
00:39:33.080
taking it literally. Um, we recommend, we read the Psalms. What genre? Well, this is, this is poetry.
00:39:39.320
Okay. That's the genre. The question then is the book of Genesis. What genre is it? What is,
00:39:46.460
what's the genre? That's the question. Now I'll tell you the answer to that question. I, I can't tell
00:39:53.600
you for sure. I don't know. Um, that's, that's the, that's, that's my answer. I don't know exactly.
00:39:58.700
I'm not going to pretend that I can sit here and tell you, um, with a hundred percent certainty,
00:40:05.700
uh, how we are to read every part of the Bible. I'm not going to tell you that I understand every
00:40:12.160
part of the Bible. I don't. The book of Revelation, that's a, that's a whole genre I forgot about.
00:40:17.040
Apocalyptic literature. Okay. There's another great example of a genre that we don't take literally.
00:40:22.540
Now the book of Revelation there, that's obviously there's, there's truth there. There's a message
00:40:28.560
we're meant to understand, a message we're meant to take away from it. But you, of course you don't
00:40:33.820
read Revelation totally literally. I don't, you know, most adult Christians who are grownups
00:40:39.160
don't actually expect that literal horsemen, you know, guys on horses are going to come out of the
00:40:45.120
sky. Um, that is, there'd be no reason for that. It would, it would be, you know, that would be God
00:40:50.500
to sort of, it'd be like theatrics. I just, it would, what, why do, why do you, if you have,
00:40:55.100
if you have beings in the sky, why do they need to be on horses? It just, it would be just,
00:40:58.780
you know, theatrical. Um, which there's no reason to think that that's literally what's going to
00:41:05.620
happen. But the, the horsemen are meant to represent something. And so we're supposed to
00:41:09.940
understand what they represent and it's being communicated to us using this sort of imagery
00:41:15.840
because it makes us, it sticks in our mind more. And also I think because with something
00:41:20.460
like apocalyptic literature, the end of the world, these are concepts that are beyond us
00:41:25.040
anyway. And so if, if, if, um, the Holy Spirit were to inspire someone to write about the end
00:41:32.080
of the world in a totally literal way, we wouldn't understand it. It'd be total nonsense to us because
00:41:37.840
it's beyond us. And so instead, especially when we're dealing with concepts that are beyond
00:41:43.140
our comprehension, that is especially when imagery and parable and, uh, and metaphor and all this,
00:41:50.880
that's especially when those come into play. And I think that's why Jesus used parables a lot
00:41:55.760
because as Jesus, he knew, knows that, um, that we are very limited in our cognitive abilities.
00:42:05.600
And so he uses, he, he, he, he expresses these ideas, um, in a way that we will understand and
00:42:15.260
also a way that will just stick with us. Again, the story of the prodigal son, that's a story
00:42:21.100
everyone remembers. If Jesus had just said in a very literal way, Hey, listen, if you, if you go out
00:42:27.040
and you sin and you, and you stop sinning, God will forgive you. Well, if he had just, and he did say
00:42:31.420
that in a literal way many times, but all the times that he said it literally, the thing that,
00:42:36.620
that we all remember the most is that story, because that's just how we are. That's how our
00:42:40.300
minds work. So we think about the genre, um, going back, I'm babbling now. Um, what, what is,
00:42:46.120
what's the genre of Genesis? Well, that's the question. My, my answer again is, I don't know exactly.
00:42:50.980
Um, I can, uh, but, but I think that the answer probably is that, that Genesis is not a,
00:42:59.820
especially the first, um, few chapters of Genesis, the creation, creation account is not literal.
00:43:07.420
And, uh, I mean, I've done a whole show on this. You can go back and watch that show.
00:43:11.000
There are many reasons why I think that, um, one of those reasons, not the only reason,
00:43:14.780
but one of those reasons is that when we look at the science, it's just, we know,
00:43:21.100
we know for a fact that that is not how that is not literally how the world came about.
00:43:26.540
Just like there are passages in the Bible, which in a literal sense seem to indicate that the,
00:43:33.800
the earth, that, um, the sun orbits the earth. There are passages, there are several passages
00:43:38.120
of the Bible. If you read literally, that's what it would seem to indicate. There are also passages
00:43:43.300
that would seem to indicate literally that the earth is flat. Now we know that that is not true,
00:43:49.100
that that's not the way it is. And so we have to interpret those, uh, Bible passages,
00:43:56.180
with the, uh, the reality of the situation in mind, in light of reality, we have to interpret
00:44:01.560
those passages. There was a time when a lot of people didn't know that the, the earth orbits
00:44:07.980
the sun. Uh, and so they read those passages and they thought that those passages, you know,
00:44:13.360
affirmed the truth that the sun orbits the earth. Once it became clear that that's not the case,
00:44:19.500
we had to go back and say, okay, well, I guess we were wrong with our interpretation of those
00:44:23.060
passages. We can't cling to our old interpretation when the reality is right in front of us.
00:44:27.420
It's just, you can't get around it. Uh, so to speak pun intended. So I think it's the same thing
00:44:32.960
with, um, with the creation account. It's just the, the seven day, 6,000 year old earth. It's just
00:44:37.480
the science. I'm sorry. The science doesn't work. And, and I, there are, I know there are people,
00:44:40.840
there are supposed, uh, Christian scientific authorities who are not authorities who will claim
00:44:47.640
otherwise, and they'll throw a lot of statistics and facts out at you, but they're, they're just,
00:44:51.820
they're, it's not true. Um, doesn't work. So that's how I would look at that. All right. Um,
00:44:58.220
and I can look forward now to many angry emails from Jacob. This says, Hey Matt, I'm a student at
00:45:07.120
Utah state university. And because I'm getting closer to graduation, there are some upper level
00:45:11.380
classes. I have to take certain attributes. I'm taking a class called perspectives on race because
00:45:16.760
it fulfills two attributes in a single class, which is nice. However, this week we were given an
00:45:21.080
assignment called the privilege activity where we are asked a series of questions. And based on our
00:45:26.220
answers, we will tell us how privileged we are compared to our classmates. Along with the activity,
00:45:31.520
we were given a blog to read about white males and how white males have it the easiest of all people
00:45:35.660
because of their supposed privilege. I'm not mean or vile or even that big of an idiot, but more and
00:45:40.440
more I'm trying to understand why my status as being white and male and straight has made me the enemy
00:45:44.640
of all people just wondering about your thoughts on this and hope that you get a chuckle reading
00:45:48.380
the questions. Uh, I, I wish I could say I get a chuckle out of that. It's more just Jacob. I,
00:45:54.100
you know, you're, you're, you're, I don't know how much money you're spending going to Utah state
00:46:00.440
university. And, uh, I'm not saying you're wasting your money. I mean, hopefully you have a plan and
00:46:05.280
you'll go out and use that degree. I'm sure you will. A lot of people do, but I mean, if I was you,
00:46:10.580
I'm sure it already does, but it would tick me off that I'm paying all this money to go to this
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school and this is what you're wasting my time with a privilege activity. I'm reading a blog by
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some, what by some liberal to lecture me about racism. This is what you wait. Like this, this
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useless propaganda. Okay. Give me useful information. Um, this, this doesn't count. So it's just a total
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waste of money. And, uh, it is also a lie of course. And so it ticks me off and we will leave
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it there. Um, hope you guys have a great 4th of July. God bless America and Godspeed.
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Hey everybody. It's Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan show. Here is a surprising thing.
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The left virtually owns all the most powerful means of communication. And they're using that
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to constantly sell sexual malfeasance, racial division, and self-lacerating anti-Americanism.
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You would think at this point, the public would be utterly convinced, but instead people are
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beginning to turn away. This is a great time for conservatives to offer a 21st century version
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of the founding ideals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We'll talk about it on the