The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 29 - How To Deal With The World's Hatred

00:00:00.000 So the number one question that I hear when I travel around the country and I meet people

00:00:04.880 at speaking events and that kind of thing, by far, without a doubt, the number one question

00:00:09.480 I get is, how do you deal with all the hatred?

00:00:13.220 I guess people have noticed that I tend to attract quite a bit of vitriol and hatred.

00:00:19.400 A lot of people don't like me, and they are very eager to let me know that they don't

00:00:26.060 like me and to let me know every day, all day, constantly.

00:00:30.340 And in very strong terms.

00:00:32.660 Now, bring out the violin and I'll tell you more of my sad tale.

00:00:36.620 No, I mean, I'm not the only one.

00:00:39.000 I probably attract a higher volume of it than most people just by the nature of what I do

00:00:44.420 for a living, but I'm certainly not the only one.

00:00:46.220 I'm sure you have noticed this as well in your own life, that if you try to speak any kind

00:00:50.660 of truth whatsoever, people are going to come after you and you're going to deal with it

00:00:54.000 online and in the real world.

00:00:56.000 And I assume that when people ask me this question, the reason I get it so often is that people

00:00:59.340 are looking for insights they can use in their own life, not because they want to hear my

00:01:04.040 life story.

00:01:04.800 So I'm going to try.

00:01:06.320 Usually when I'm asked this question, the answer that I provide is, I think, unsatisfactory

00:01:10.960 because I just I'm put on the spot.

00:01:14.220 But now that I've had time to think about it, I want to try to answer it again.

00:01:18.640 And I think the first thing that we have to do, if we're going to talk about how to deal

00:01:21.840 with the hatred from the world, the backlash that you get from defending your belief system,

00:01:27.920 first thing we have to do is reiterate again and understand and embrace and accept that it

00:01:33.620 absolutely will happen.

00:01:36.280 You will get this hatred.

00:01:39.180 We know this.

00:01:40.460 We know it from our own personal experience.

00:01:42.100 We also know it from Scripture.

00:01:44.040 Jesus warns us about this repeatedly, and his warnings certainly apply to our culture probably

00:01:49.560 more than most, but they do apply to all cultures throughout time.

00:01:53.820 Now, that's true.

00:01:55.420 But on the other hand, so it seems almost counterintuitive because we also are a culture of indifference.

00:02:03.240 People are lazy, apathetic, indifferent.

00:02:05.840 And you would think, if you didn't know any better, that one of the advantages of living

00:02:11.120 in a lazy, apathetic, and different culture is that you can say and do whatever you want,

00:02:15.220 and nobody will pay attention or care because they're all too busy watching their five hours

00:02:19.180 of TV a day, and they're online, and they're obsessed with movies and video games and everything,

00:02:26.060 and they're too immersed in that world to even care what you're saying.

00:02:30.280 And that is true most of the time.

00:02:32.320 Most of the time, you can say what you want and do what you want, and nobody will care.

00:02:40.660 Because part of that, that's why so many people will say, you know, hey, let people do what

00:02:46.500 they want.

00:02:46.880 As long as they're not hurting me, it's fine.

00:02:49.380 And they feel like that's some sort of virtuous moral code to live by.

00:02:54.180 So I don't, you know, as long as they're not hurting me, I don't care.

00:02:56.680 I let people live.

00:02:57.760 Live and let live, right?

00:02:58.940 But everyone who really lives according to that motto, it's just pure laziness on their

00:03:04.020 part.

00:03:04.360 It's just because they don't care.

00:03:05.740 It's not, it's not like this is not some virtuous restraint on their part.

00:03:09.240 They really just don't care about anything or anyone, and they just want to watch TV.

00:03:14.460 That's what that means.

00:03:16.160 But here's the problem.

00:03:18.440 These people, the average American who is living in this deluded world and is just entertaining 1.00

00:03:25.560 himself into oblivion.

00:03:27.240 And I do believe this applies to the average American.

00:03:30.880 I know I'm taking a dim view of the average American, but I'm sorry.

00:03:34.420 I think it's the reality.

00:03:35.940 This is how the average American works.

00:03:38.760 They're floating along on the current, don't care about anything.

00:03:43.540 And they're just staring at screens, not ever taking even a moment to really think about

00:03:51.640 anything.

00:03:52.280 The only thing they're thinking about is, uh, what's the next show I'm going to watch?

00:03:56.640 When can I get my video, the next video game?

00:03:59.120 What am I going to eat?

00:04:00.260 You know, um, that's what they care about.

00:04:02.300 And that's what they're thinking about.

00:04:03.860 So to live in this world of comfort and luxury and entertainment and moral numbness, in order

00:04:13.080 to really live in that world, you cannot accept any truth.

00:04:17.840 Every truth in your life has to become your own version of that truth because a truth has

00:04:23.960 a hard edge, you know, and, uh, once you inject truth into your life, well, then now you have

00:04:31.540 to kind of start conforming yourself around it and, uh, and you can't live entirely according

00:04:38.740 to your own wind.

00:04:39.600 So if you want to live that way, you must in the end, reject all truth.

00:04:45.640 And we're seeing this play out in our culture.

00:04:48.040 So people that are in this fog of, uh, indifference, if you come in and you inject any truth into

00:04:57.460 that fog, it doesn't matter what it is, if you introduce any truth, that's when they're going

00:05:04.000 to detach themselves from the screen for long enough to devour you and rip you to pieces and

00:05:11.200 then go back to what they were doing before.

00:05:14.120 When you threaten this indifferent, lazy life that they're living, which is the only thing

00:05:20.720 they really care about, when you threaten that, when you interfere with it, that's when they

00:05:28.660 come after you.

00:05:30.180 When you criticize, when you, when you cause them to look at themselves in the mirror, when

00:05:35.160 you criticize their precious, sacred lifestyle, because these days that's the one thing you're

00:05:40.740 never allowed to do, right?

00:05:42.920 Anything can be justified as long as it's my lifestyle.

00:05:45.100 I can say, well, this is my lifestyle.

00:05:46.660 It's how I choose to live.

00:05:47.560 So you can't criticize it.

00:05:48.740 Actually, I can criticize it because I think it's wrong just because it's a choice that

00:05:53.900 you've personally made.

00:05:55.000 Well, it's a personal choice.

00:05:56.440 So that means it's right.

00:05:57.860 No, I mean, a lot of personal choices are wrong and I think it's wrong.

00:06:01.140 So I'm going to tell you, I think it's wrong.

00:06:02.520 I'm sorry.

00:06:03.440 But once you take that attitude and that approach, that's when they will descend upon you.

00:06:07.920 And, um, so then the hatred is inevitable in that case, and it's going to be very, very

00:06:12.320 vicious.

00:06:13.540 So how do you handle it?

00:06:15.000 How do I handle it?

00:06:16.040 Well, the honest answer is I have historically handled it very, very poorly.

00:06:19.780 I have to admit, I'm trying to do better.

00:06:22.120 I'm working on it, but I have handled it poorly.

00:06:25.540 And I, but I have found through trial and error that there are three serious mistakes you

00:06:29.740 can make when dealing with the hatred of the world.

00:06:32.660 And I have made all these mistakes.

00:06:34.320 So let's talk about the mistakes first.

00:06:35.700 The first mistake is the obvious one.

00:06:37.080 The first mistake is to, uh, take it personally and to be offended by it and hurt.

00:06:43.020 We should never allow ourselves to be personally offended by the sniping and the vitriol from

00:06:48.580 the world, particularly when that, when those personal attacks come because you said something

00:06:54.920 true, never take it personally.

00:06:57.060 It's illogical anyway, because when someone comes after you and says the most awful things

00:07:01.500 about you, it's not personal.

00:07:03.160 Now it may be about you, you know, on the surface, what they're saying may be personal

00:07:08.260 and they may be talking about you on the surface, but really it's not, they don't care about

00:07:12.980 you.

00:07:13.300 It doesn't matter what you, you don't matter.

00:07:15.300 It's what you said that they hate.

00:07:17.000 It's your belief system.

00:07:18.200 It's the conviction.

00:07:19.420 It's the thing that you said, the position that you took.

00:07:23.660 That's what they hate.

00:07:24.760 And because they're too lazy and they lack the intelligence and the energy to engage the

00:07:30.360 belief system itself, they will instead take the lazy shortcut approach and attack the person

00:07:35.480 who holds the belief because that's the easiest thing to do.

00:07:38.680 They don't want to apply their minds at all, uh, or expend the energy required to listen to

00:07:44.120 what you're saying and then try to refute it.

00:07:46.200 So instead they'll, they'll listen for long enough to, to understand that they disagree.

00:07:51.160 And then they'll just try to rip you apart personally, maybe bring your family into it, 0.98

00:07:56.380 whatever they can do to hurt you and shut you down and make you afraid.

00:08:01.960 And then they can go back to what they were doing before.

00:08:04.240 I will admit that I made this mistake early on when I first started doing this, when I

00:08:07.920 first, um, gained an audience online and I was giving my opinions to a relatively large

00:08:15.320 group of people, the first couple of times that I experienced a massive blowback and backlash

00:08:23.240 for something that I said, where, you know, it's hundreds and thousands of people that

00:08:27.880 are attacking you and there's hate mail and there's comments everywhere.

00:08:31.100 And it's just first couple of times I'll admit that I was overwhelmed and, um, and I did let

00:08:36.080 it get to me.

00:08:37.060 And I read some of the comments and I did take them personally.

00:08:40.300 I know we're not supposed to admit this, but I did early on.

00:08:42.580 It's, it's, it's a difficult thing.

00:08:44.520 You know, when you're, when you're not used to it, it can be very hard.

00:08:49.020 So I made that mistake.

00:08:50.760 Don't make that mistake.

00:08:52.200 Second mistake is, um, on the opposite end of the spectrum.

00:08:55.240 The second mistake is to enjoy the hatred.

00:08:58.480 There are people that they get the hatred, the blowback, and their first reaction is to

00:09:02.460 recoil from it and to be kind of afraid of it.

00:09:04.900 And that's, that's normal.

00:09:06.020 Now we have to overcome that reaction, but it's a normal human reaction.

00:09:08.940 But then there's the, the, the people who, who, and these are internet trolls.

00:09:12.440 Basically, this is, this is, this is what ends up a person like this with this reaction

00:09:16.620 could eventually become an internet troll, an infamous internet troll.

00:09:19.660 That's someone who thrives on the negative attention and likes it.

00:09:24.000 Um, there are a lot of people in the pundit commentator class, conservatives and liberals

00:09:30.400 who that's, that's the case for them.

00:09:33.520 They really like to be hated because it's attention.

00:09:38.020 It is, it's a lot of very energetic attention directed at them.

00:09:42.840 And they like that.

00:09:44.360 Now me, I've also made this mistake at the, at the beginning experience the blowback.

00:09:49.700 I was overwhelmed.

00:09:50.380 I was, I was taking it personally.

00:09:53.360 And so then I thought, well, the best defense mechanism is to try to like it somehow.

00:09:58.340 And so I tried that as a defense mechanism to shield myself.

00:10:03.340 I tried to put on this thing of a, you know, well, I'm living rent-free in your head, you

00:10:08.000 know, and, and, and, and to really take some sort of pleasure in it.

00:10:10.900 It didn't last for me because it didn't come naturally to me.

00:10:14.240 So I couldn't stay like that for very long, but I did try it.

00:10:16.900 And what I can say is that thriving on hatred is as bad as being hateful yourself.

00:10:23.800 It's probably worse really, uh, to actually enjoy it.

00:10:28.740 It's, it's, it's a sick, demented thing, but there are a lot of people in that camp.

00:10:32.680 That's a mistake.

00:10:33.920 The third mistake is, um, the mistake that I settled on for a long time, which is to be

00:10:42.300 numb to it.

00:10:42.940 And I'm very guilty of this third mistake, uh, of, you know, not being afraid of the

00:10:49.480 hatred and not enjoying it either, but just feeling nothing much of the time.

00:10:55.520 And I think most people think this is the right approach.

00:10:59.120 You hear people all the time declare, oh, I don't care what anyone thinks.

00:11:03.500 I don't care about it.

00:11:04.480 I don't care what anyone thinks.

00:11:06.240 And we sometimes will confuse this attitude with strength.

00:11:10.040 We'll think, well, that's what it means to be strong is to not care.

00:11:12.780 What anyone thinks, right?

00:11:14.380 Isn't that what we always say?

00:11:15.400 Well, you shouldn't care what the world thinks.

00:11:16.740 Don't care about it.

00:11:17.640 Don't care about their opinions, but that's not strength.

00:11:20.880 If you really don't care, it's kind of like a sociopath who has literally no fear or emotion

00:11:27.340 at all, cannot be courageous.

00:11:29.720 Even when he puts himself in harm's way, because fear is an element of courage.

00:11:34.540 Courage is feeling the fear and acting anyway.

00:11:37.840 If you have no fear whatsoever, then you cannot be courageous, even if you're doing something

00:11:42.460 that looks courageous.

00:11:43.500 You're only doing it because you don't have that natural human reaction of fear.

00:11:48.860 So being numb to the opinions of the world and being numb to the hatred, well, that doesn't

00:11:53.320 make you strong.

00:11:53.940 That actually makes you weak.

00:11:55.720 That means that you've been worn down and beaten down, and now you're just sort of this

00:12:01.260 flat line of not feeling anything.

00:12:03.440 What I've realized is, after a long time of kind of taking this approach of saying, well,

00:12:11.560 I really don't care what people think, even if 50,000 people are saying the worst things

00:12:17.980 about me, I really don't care what they think.

00:12:21.400 I feel nothing.

00:12:23.400 After a while, I realized that, you know, this doesn't seem right.

00:12:28.120 I think I should care what they think.

00:12:30.520 I should feel something.

00:12:32.040 Now, that thing shouldn't be fear.

00:12:35.620 It shouldn't be pleasure, either, on the other end of it, but I should feel something, right?

00:12:42.980 It doesn't seem right to feel nothing.

00:12:44.960 I mean, how can you feel nothing?

00:12:46.340 How can you have swarms of angry people shouting at you and feel nothing?

00:12:49.420 That doesn't seem human.

00:12:51.600 And what I've realized is, well, I mean, look at what the Bible says.

00:12:56.300 Pray for those who persecute you.

00:12:57.920 Turn the other cheek.

00:12:59.620 So that's what we should feel.

00:13:00.760 We should feel moved to pray for them.

00:13:02.480 We should feel pity for them.

00:13:04.980 So we should care, not because we care what they think in the sense that we want them to

00:13:10.100 like us, so we're going to adjust our opinions to make them like us.

00:13:15.180 But when people hate us, I think we should care for their own sake, because they're wallowing

00:13:21.920 and stewing in this hatred, and we should pity them for that.

00:13:26.840 Pray for those who persecute you.

00:13:28.160 Turn the other cheek.

00:13:29.620 We tend to gloss over these parts of Christ's teachings.

00:13:33.280 We basically gloss over everything you said, but especially stuff like this.

00:13:38.300 We gloss over it because it's become kind of a cliche.

00:13:41.060 We've heard it so often, especially turn the other cheek.

00:13:43.220 We hear it so often, it's become just kind of the part of the vocabulary, part of the

00:13:47.760 language, and it's become a cliche.

00:13:50.480 That's the worst thing, really, that can ever happen to the Bible is when it becomes a cliche,

00:13:55.280 when we turn it into that, which is what we've done.

00:13:57.380 If we really thought about it, if we didn't gloss over it, and we really confronted these

00:14:04.060 teachings, turn the other cheek, pray for those who persecute you, we would see that

00:14:08.340 these are radical, really challenging commands that Jesus is giving us.

00:14:15.800 Really, I mean, it seems almost crazy.

00:14:20.060 Turn the other cheek?

00:14:21.280 What?

00:14:21.920 Pray for people who are attacking me?

00:14:24.980 Pray for them?

00:14:25.620 I think most people, although we look at that and we say, oh, yeah, sure, turn the other

00:14:31.300 cheek.

00:14:31.600 Yeah, that's great advice.

00:14:32.680 Thanks, Jesus.

00:14:33.600 Thanks for that advice.

00:14:35.240 And we'll say, oh, yeah, I do that all the time.

00:14:37.160 Yeah, definitely.

00:14:37.700 Sure, sure.

00:14:38.960 I think if we were to be honest, we may look at our own lives and realize that we have never

00:14:43.560 turned the other cheek.

00:14:45.780 We have never prayed for those who persecute us.

00:14:48.340 I realized, at a certain point, I realized that.

00:14:50.220 I looked at it and I said, you know what?

00:14:51.920 I don't think I've ever, I got all these people attacking me.

00:14:53.820 I don't think I've ever prayed for them.

00:14:55.620 Ever.

00:14:56.920 I'd like to think that I have, but I don't think I ever really have.

00:15:00.520 Now, part of the issue with these aspects of Christ's teaching is that they seem, at

00:15:07.100 first glance, to be kind of in contradiction.

00:15:09.100 They seem to contradict other things that he said, because this is also the same Jesus

00:15:13.220 who famously fashioned a whip out of cords and drove the money changers out of the temple,

00:15:20.360 flipping over tables.

00:15:21.680 This was vandalism and assault.

00:15:23.540 He was assaulting people with a whip and turning over tables.

00:15:27.100 I mean, it's, this is, it's a crime what he did, right?

00:15:30.420 This is also the same Jesus who says, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword, dividing

00:15:36.100 families.

00:15:36.740 This is the same Jesus who said that I wish you were either hot or cold.

00:15:42.480 And because you're lukewarm, I spit you out of my mouth.

00:15:45.440 But lukewarm is a synonym for mild.

00:15:49.760 But at other points, it seems like he's telling us to be mild, but not lukewarm, telling us

00:15:53.740 to turn the other cheek.

00:15:54.540 But yet over here, he's flipping tables and using a whip.

00:15:56.880 I mean, it just, it seems like, how do you make sense of all of it?

00:15:59.780 And you realize that you make sense of it this way.

00:16:02.340 Then what Jesus is saying is, when you personally are being attacked, when your own personal honor

00:16:12.620 is being assaulted or questioned, that's when you turn the other cheek.

00:16:17.000 That's when you don't respond with this kind of force, right?

00:16:22.100 When it's, when you personally are the victim.

00:16:26.280 But when God is being attacked, when your faith is being attacked, when we're dealing

00:16:31.980 with heresy and sacrilege and blasphemy, when, when truth is being attacked, even when your

00:16:37.620 family is being attacked, well, that's, that's different.

00:16:41.300 Then we are supposed to rise up and respond with force, respond vocally.

00:16:46.260 Even, even respond, even be militant in our defense of God's honor and of truth and virtue

00:16:54.200 and of good and holy things.

00:16:56.800 Now, we, we tend to get this, we, we tend to get this backwards, I think, a lot of times.

00:17:02.420 What we'll do is we'll see the world attacking God and our faith and truth and committing

00:17:08.580 the sacrilege and heresy and blasphemy.

00:17:10.700 And that's when we say, oh, we'll turn the other cheek, be the bigger man.

00:17:14.300 But then when, when that, when the, when the, when the hyenas, when the pack of hyenas move

00:17:19.920 on from there to us and they start personally sniping at us, that's when all of a sudden

00:17:26.900 we're not so willing to turn the other cheek.

00:17:29.080 And, uh, and, and that's when we want to rise up in defense of ourself, but it's supposed

00:17:33.660 to be the opposite because that is strength.

00:17:37.500 Strength, that's what strength is.

00:17:40.680 Strength is being willing to, you know, put yourself in the midst of it and to, to jump

00:17:50.260 in, to defend these things that are beyond you and above you and are bigger than you.

00:17:56.260 But when it comes to personal hatred and personal persecution and people coming after you personally,

00:18:02.820 that's when we're not supposed to muddy ourselves by flinging mud at the mudslingers or debase 0.99

00:18:08.640 ourselves by trying to defend our own personal honor to people who don't really care about

00:18:13.560 our honor anyway.

00:18:14.600 So there's no point forceful and vocal in our defense of God's honor and of truth and

00:18:19.800 virtue.

00:18:20.100 But when it comes to personal attacks, personal insults, personal affronts to those, to those

00:18:25.240 specifically, Christ says, turn the other cheek.

00:18:28.680 That's what a strong man does.

00:18:30.300 He doesn't cry.

00:18:31.760 He doesn't snicker like a little troll and find some perverse pleasure in it.

00:18:35.140 He isn't morally exhausted and numb.

00:18:37.080 Instead, he's resolute, he's confident, and he's uninterested in getting involved in bickering

00:18:41.840 or back and forths.

00:18:44.080 And, um, when people personally insult him, he just, he's not going to get down there.

00:18:49.880 And try to say, no, I'm not that.

00:18:52.380 I'm not stupid.

00:18:53.480 You're stupid.

00:18:55.000 That's weak.

00:18:55.860 That's childish.

00:18:57.640 But he does feel something.

00:18:59.400 Like I said, he feels pity for his attackers.

00:19:03.000 He feels sorry for them.

00:19:05.780 He sees how pathetic the whole scene is, how miserable these people are, how empty their

00:19:10.700 lives are.

00:19:11.580 And he prays for them.

00:19:13.340 He prays sincerely for them.

00:19:16.060 And Christ gives us the perfect example of this approach, of course, during his passion.

00:19:21.420 Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.

00:19:23.580 He said that while he was nailed to a cross in unbearable agony.

00:19:27.080 And we're never going to attain that level of heroism and selflessness, but we could still

00:19:31.420 follow it and use it as a model.

00:19:33.000 And I think that many of us have never really tried this, but it is possible to pray for

00:19:38.680 those who attack you.

00:19:40.020 And I'm still, like I said, I am not the perfect model of this whatsoever.

00:19:44.940 So I don't put myself forth and say, do what I'm doing.

00:19:47.600 Instead, let's do what Jesus does.

00:19:49.680 But I am trying.

00:19:51.900 And what I've found is, you know, for me right now, most of the time, when I get personally

00:19:56.720 attacked, if I'm personally attacked, and if I turn around and pray for the person attacking

00:20:00.780 me, the prayer that I'm saying silently in my head is not 100% sincere.

00:20:08.300 I want it to be sincere, but it's not because I'm still ticked off at the guy.

00:20:11.980 But I'm at least right now, I'm just at the point, I'm at the very beginning, I'm just

00:20:14.780 trying to form the habit anyway.

00:20:17.380 I'm trying to develop at least the habit of being attacked.

00:20:22.240 And the first thing is to respond by praying for the person.

00:20:26.720 And so right now, it's not 100% sincere.

00:20:30.180 I'm still, it's very novice level stuff.

00:20:33.040 But I think that's what we have to do a lot of times in life is, even if your heart's not

00:20:37.960 in it, even if you're not feeling it, do the right thing anyway.

00:20:42.740 Do the right thing.

00:20:44.240 Lead with your actions, you know.

00:20:47.320 Go through the motions, at least in the beginning.

00:20:51.880 And then eventually, your heart will start to change along with it.

00:20:56.720 Especially when God sees you putting in the effort and really trying.

00:21:01.220 It's like, it's not enough to be really, you know, to be good, to be good people.

00:21:05.940 I don't think we can leap all the way there.

00:21:07.900 First, we have to really desire to be good and to do the right thing.

00:21:11.740 We have to, at least want, we have to, we have to, maybe we need to desire, we have to want

00:21:17.720 to want to be good.

00:21:20.120 You have to want to want to do the right thing.

00:21:23.160 I think that's the first step.

00:21:25.400 And once we take that first step, then hopefully the rest will follow.

00:21:28.260 So right now, I'm trying to develop the habit.

00:21:30.700 And so when people ask me, how do I deal with the haters?

00:21:34.220 I guess the real answer is I'm working on it.

00:21:37.640 And maybe we can all, you know, work on this together.

00:21:40.820 Because the other thing is, look, last thing I'll say is it's the only thing that works anyway.

00:21:47.060 You know, this is also good practical advice.

00:21:49.000 Like so much in the Bible, these are moral truths, moral commands.

00:21:52.700 But also on top of it, it's just, it is also good practical advice for how to live.

00:21:58.580 It isn't merely that we can't turn the Bible into merely a collection of life advice, you

00:22:04.400 know, so it's not just that, but it is also that.

00:22:07.180 So when it comes to personal attacks, it's like, there's nothing else you can do anyway.

00:22:14.060 When people are personally insulting you to get down in the mud with them and to try to

00:22:18.920 defend yourself, it just doesn't, no matter what, that's how insults work.

00:22:23.460 That's sort of the point of them is that no matter what you say, once you're insulted

00:22:27.460 personally, no matter what you say to defend yourself against that insult, it's only going

00:22:32.440 to end up reinforcing whatever the insult was.

00:22:34.960 So there's no point.

00:22:36.520 It might as well just take the higher approach that Jesus is prescribing for us.

00:22:40.520 Because on top of being the right approach, it's also the only one that works.

00:22:44.440 All right.

00:22:44.840 Thanks for watching, everybody.

00:22:45.820 Thanks for listening and have a great day.

00:22:47.800 I'll talk to you tomorrow.

00:22:48.460 Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - May 14, 2018

Ep. 29 - How To Deal With The World's Hatred

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