The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 291 - People Who've Never Used A Screwdriver Are Boycotting Home Depot

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, there is now a movement to boycott Home Depot because one of

00:00:04.820 the founders gave some money to Donald Trump. But this boycott is even dumber than most,

00:00:10.700 and there are a lot of dumb boycotts. I'll explain why. Also, is Jeffrey Epstein about

00:00:14.960 to take down Bill Clinton? We know Epstein's probably going to jail for being a scumbag

00:00:19.420 sex trafficker, allegedly. There are a lot of powerful people that are getting mixed up into

00:00:24.140 that. It is Bill Clinton, one of them. We'll talk about it. And some police officers were

00:00:28.180 kicked out of a Starbucks because their presence was upsetting to a customer. This, of course,

00:00:33.920 is completely insane. We'll talk about that incident as well today on the Matt Wall Show.

00:00:41.360 Okay, welcome to the show, everybody. I hope you're doing well. I'm doing well personally.

00:00:46.040 I'm doing very well because I got the cast off my leg yesterday. It's been on my leg after the

00:00:51.340 Achilles surgery. It had been on for four weeks, a month, and it finally came off. And that was great.

00:00:57.140 The only problem is that my calf muscle, where the cast was, has been unused for a month. And it's

00:01:02.060 also gotten no sun, while the other calf muscles gotten all the work plus all the sun. So when the

00:01:07.220 cast came off, it basically looks now like I have the legs of two different people. I got this

00:01:12.940 shriveled, pale leg, and then the leg of a normal person. So it looks like I went and stole two

00:01:20.920 different people's legs because I wouldn't steal two legs from one person. That'd be kind of rude. 0.95

00:01:24.580 So I took a normal guy's leg. And then I also took the leg of an adolescent shut-in 0.52

00:01:28.900 and stapled them together. I basically, I look like a Ripley's believe it or not exhibit now.

00:01:34.340 And the only reason I tell you that is just very, I give you this graphic description of my legs only

00:01:38.920 because there are some people who would try to claim that now that I don't have my cast anymore,

00:01:43.500 I lose all my victim points. And my point is, that's not true because number one, I still can't

00:01:48.600 walk. So I'm still a cripple. And number two, I have weird legs. And so that's got to count for 0.80

00:01:54.680 something. That's social stigma. Okay. Do you know how often I go to a place and there's a sign

00:02:00.640 outside saying, um, normal legs only allowed, no weird legs. It happens all the time. So this is a

00:02:06.960 social stigma. So I have, I have really now two sources of, uh, victimhood instead of just the one

00:02:13.340 that I had before. Let's be very clear about that. All right. Um, let me, uh, a bunch we're

00:02:21.040 going to talk about today that there's, we're going to start with a movement. Now, um, there's

00:02:26.420 a movement to boycott something. And I know that that's pretty surprising. It's surprising that

00:02:32.460 people are boycotting, uh, because it had been probably what, almost 14 minutes since the last

00:02:37.420 boycott. Uh, I, I personally was starting to Jones. I was Jonesing for another boycott. I'm sure you

00:02:43.100 were too. And so we have another one. We'll talk about it. This one is, I mean, there are

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00:04:09.640 you'll love the club. Okay. So this, this shows just how absurd the boycott culture is

00:04:16.680 now. Um, there, as, as I said, have been a lot of stupid boycotts. This one is definitely

00:04:22.100 up there on the stupid scale. Bernie Marcus is the retired 90 year old co-founder of Home

00:04:28.680 Depot. And he said it recently in an interview that he's going to be donating part of his

00:04:34.720 fortune to Donald Trump's reelection campaign. Oh, okay. We know, we know what happens next.

00:04:41.500 He said this in the same interview, um, where he also said he's going to be giving away up

00:04:48.320 to 90% of his wealth. And the vast majority of it is going not to Donald Trump, but to help

00:04:53.800 veterans with disabilities to help autistic children, to help, um, to, uh, help with medical

00:05:00.480 research to fund medical research. That's where almost all of his wealth is going is, is in those

00:05:06.740 areas. Plus a little slice of it is going to political causes that he believes in. Now this

00:05:14.260 news of course has had predictable results. A, uh, boycott Home Depot hashtag started with a bunch

00:05:20.860 of leftist swearing that they'll never shop there again. Nevermind the fact that most of these people

00:05:26.280 have never used a screwdriver before. Don't even know what a hammer looks like. And now they're

00:05:30.700 boycotting a hardware store, which is a little bit like if I boycotted a yoga studio, you know,

00:05:36.600 it's not likely to have much financial impact on the target of my outrage. And I think the same is here.

00:05:43.500 The same is the case here. Not to mention, um, Marcus is retired. He doesn't work for the company

00:05:52.320 anymore. And besides the other retired co-founder, Arthur Blank, who owns the Atlanta Falcons,

00:05:59.240 he donates mostly to democratic causes. So at most it's a wash, right? One, one billionaire gives to

00:06:05.460 Democrats. The other gives to Republicans. Uh, who cares? The boycott, if it had any effect,

00:06:12.020 which it won't, but if it did, it would only hurt the current employees of the, of the company

00:06:17.780 who have nothing to do with what the 90 year old billionaire co-founder is doing with his money.

00:06:24.560 That's the only people who can be hurt by this. You're not going to hurt. If you succeeded in

00:06:28.500 hurting anyone, you're not going to hurt the billionaire 90 year old who's giving away all of

00:06:32.940 his money anyway. Um, you're just going to hurt the average workers at these places now,

00:06:39.540 which is one of the reasons why, um, I mean, there are a lot of reasons why I have, uh, an issue with

00:06:47.760 the boycott culture. And one is that it's just so frivolous now. It doesn't, it doesn't mean anything.

00:06:54.640 It's just, it's, it's a temporary, um, temper tantrum that people put on, but it amounts to nothing.

00:07:03.640 It doesn't mean anything. I mean, it, it, it used to be that every few years there would be a boycott

00:07:09.680 movement. Um, and now you have one every, you know, three times a day and it just doesn't amount

00:07:15.240 to anything. And, uh, and, and oftentimes, of course, as I said, it's people who aren't even

00:07:20.640 customers or patrons of the thing that they're boycotting. Um, that's why I think it's funny when

00:07:28.300 you have like with the Nike thing last week where Nike got rid of the, the American flag shoe. And

00:07:34.500 so this time conservatives were saying, Oh, we're going to boycott Nike. Um, which if you don't want

00:07:39.260 to buy Nike products because of that, I understand, but you know, as I'm reading even the hashtag for

00:07:45.480 that, there are a lot of conservatives say, Oh, well, Nike's trash anyway. I, I, and listing all the

00:07:50.080 reasons they hate Nike. Well, okay. Well that just, that just means you're the, the part where you're

00:07:55.900 saying you're going to boycott. That doesn't mean anything because you're, you're saying you never

00:07:59.120 were a customer to begin with because you think their products are trash, which fine. But again,

00:08:04.080 that just means that the boycott doesn't amount to anything. The other problem is that so often

00:08:08.480 with these boycotts, um, they're done in such a way that they're really only going to hurt the average

00:08:17.100 employees who work at these places. They're the main ones who are going to be affected.

00:08:22.660 The rich CEOs and the wealthy people, they're not going to feel much of a hit now, especially with

00:08:31.900 this, if these people, these boycotting leftists had any principles, if they actually had authentic

00:08:37.920 convictions, they would be applauding right now. Um, because they would put the political donation

00:08:44.740 issue to the side and they would celebrate the fact that this billionaire is choosing to give almost

00:08:50.520 all of his money to the poor and the disabled. I mean, if your worldview is defined by something

00:08:57.680 other than just hating Trump, uh, you would applaud this because if that's, that's one of the things

00:09:06.200 people on the left, this is something they talk about all the time, income inequality, poverty.

00:09:10.400 And those are, those are serious. I agree that poverty is a, is a something we should be focused

00:09:16.640 on and we should be trying to help the poor. But here you have someone giving billions of dollars

00:09:22.040 to the poor and to the disadvantaged, but you're going to throw all that to the side because, oh,

00:09:28.600 he's also given a little bit to Donald Trump. It's just, uh, you reveal yourself to be a hypocrite

00:09:34.940 with no principles. All right. I have to, um, talk about this for a minute. The, uh, the Epstein

00:09:43.300 or Epstein, I should say Epstein, Epstein, whatever the Epstein thing, Jeffrey Epstein is the billionaire

00:09:50.700 financier. Um, well, that's supposedly what he is, although it's, it's, it's sort of unclear how he

00:09:57.000 made all his money. Uh, well, I guess it's becoming clear now how he made it, but, um, allegedly he's a

00:10:04.320 financier, whatever that's supposed to mean. Um, a rich guy, a sex offender, alleged pedophile,

00:10:10.200 alleged sex trafficker, uh, now arrested on sex trafficking charges. Epstein allegedly ran a giant

00:10:15.980 sex trafficking ring where he would shuttle underage girls, children, um, between his various

00:10:22.880 estates and houses and force them to have sex, uh, offer them up to be raped. In other words, 0.97

00:10:28.640 by a bunch of his rich and powerful friends. I, I do think, you know, the way that this is being

00:10:33.780 reported by the media, the phrases being used most of the time would be, well, rich men having sex with

00:10:41.300 underage girls. Another way of putting that probably a more accurate way of putting it is these are men

00:10:47.820 raping children. Um, Epstein is a criminal pervert, degenerate scumbag. And he, if this was a healthy

00:10:56.740 society, he would be frog marched to the scaffold and hung in public. That's what should happen.

00:11:01.400 But this case is bigger than Epstein. He has, as I said, a lot of rich and powerful friends. And,

00:11:10.400 uh, one of them is Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton flew all around the world with Epstein, the alleged sex

00:11:16.580 trafficker, but Clinton just put out a statement saying that he knows nothing about any of Epstein's

00:11:22.540 crimes. Um, you know, disavowing and saying, Oh, I had nothing to do with that. And the problem is

00:11:31.600 I'm trying to pull up the statement from Clinton here. I guess it doesn't really, it doesn't really

00:11:35.720 matter. Uh, the statement is a president Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey

00:11:40.260 Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or to those with which he has been recently

00:11:45.480 charged in New York. In 2002, 2003, president Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey

00:11:50.900 Epstein's airplane, one to Europe, one to Asia, two to Africa, which includes stops in connection

00:11:56.140 with the work of the Clinton foundation staff supporters of the foundation and a secret

00:12:00.100 service detail traveled on every leg of every trip. He had one meeting with Epstein in his Harlem

00:12:04.920 office in 2002. And around the same time, he made one brief visit to Epstein's New York apartment

00:12:10.320 with a staff member and a security detail. Uh, he's not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade

00:12:15.280 and he's never been to little St. James Island Epstein's ranch in New Mexico or his residence

00:12:20.140 in Florida. Okay. So this, this, uh, statement is saying, Oh, look, I, you know, Clinton, Bill Clinton

00:12:28.020 had very little to do with Epstein. He just flew to a, what four different continents with, with Epstein

00:12:34.160 and he went to his apartment and he flew all around the world, but, uh, he doesn't know anything

00:12:39.040 about this. Right. If, if, if you have to put out a statement saying that, you know, nothing about

00:12:50.660 the sex trafficking of your friend who you traveled around the world with the fact that you need to put

00:12:56.320 out that statement is not a good sign. The fact that Bill Clinton was the first person to put out a

00:13:02.740 statement saying, Oh, I don't know anything about this. Um, that's, that's also not a good, good sign

00:13:11.560 for Clinton. And we should remember that Clinton is also an alleged rapist himself, credibly accused

00:13:19.380 rapist, uh, very credibly accused in my opinion. So you don't need to be a detective to put putting,

00:13:24.860 start putting these pieces together. And I think this is why the story about Epstein is probably going

00:13:31.520 to fall out of the headlines very quickly. Um, Epstein almost certainly has dirt on a lot of

00:13:38.260 powerful people, many of them Democrats, Republicans too, no doubt, but the media won't be able to focus

00:13:46.280 this just on Republicans as much as they might like to. And they're already trying, like you're hearing a

00:13:51.940 lot in the media about the comments that, um, Donald Trump has made about Jeffrey Epstein in the past.

00:13:57.660 Back in 2002, Donald Trump said that, um, I don't have the exact quote in front of me. Trump said

00:14:03.520 that, uh, Epstein's a good guy and a good friend and, uh, he loves beautiful women. Many of them on,

00:14:10.060 on the younger side. Now that's not good to have that quote out there. It doesn't look good. Uh,

00:14:16.780 when this is allegedly, apparently a sex trafficker of underage girls and you're on record saying,

00:14:24.140 oh, he's a great guy. Yeah. Loves, loves on loves, uh, loves girls on the younger side.

00:14:29.080 It's not a good thing. Um, but we should also note that Donald Trump, and this is a point in his

00:14:36.080 favor. Uh, he apparently kicked Jeff, Jeffrey Epstein out of his, uh, Mar-a-Lago club down in Florida

00:14:44.240 for assaulting or harassing a girl at the club down there. So, um, now the media is focusing a lot on

00:14:52.280 the Trump angle, but it's going to be, it's going to become increasingly difficult to make this just

00:15:01.180 about Republicans. And they know that, which is why my prediction is they're just going to stop

00:15:05.520 talking about it altogether. It's been thought, it's been assumed for a long time that Epstein

00:15:09.240 must have reams of blackmail of very powerful and influential people. And that's how he's avoided

00:15:15.780 serious legal consequence for so long. And it looks like the cops may have found some of that,

00:15:21.460 uh, blackmail in a safe. They found tapes. Um, some of them with labels, like there was one tape,

00:15:29.360 uh, DVD with a label that said young name and name. Now the names were redacted. There were,

00:15:38.180 of course it actually had names down. We don't know what the names were,

00:15:41.100 but that sounds an awful lot. Like it's a tape of a young woman, whatever her name is,

00:15:48.000 and someone else who Epstein felt the need to record that rendezvous and then, uh, lock it in a

00:15:56.500 safe with a label like that. Who knows, but it sounds like that could be the blackmail that is now

00:16:03.580 coming out. Um, as far as I'm concerned, anybody associated with this, anybody involved with it,

00:16:12.540 I hope they're all taken down. I hope they all go to prison and rot. I hope they're all exposed and

00:16:17.200 destroyed. And I don't care. Republican Democrat doesn't make a difference to me.

00:16:23.440 All right. There was, uh, I wanted to mention this yesterday. There was reportedly an incident

00:16:27.500 at a Starbucks in Arizona, uh, I guess last week, some police officers say that

00:16:34.380 they were asked to leave or to move to a different table because they were, uh, sitting next to a

00:16:42.760 customer who was uncomfortable being around police officers. This customer felt unsafe apparently.

00:16:50.080 And the unsafe feeling customer reported those feelings to the staff at Starbucks and the staff,

00:16:55.980 rather than responding by laughing in the customer's face as they should have done, um, actually went up

00:17:01.680 and asked the cops to get up and leave. The local police union, uh, put out a statement about the

00:17:07.540 incident describing what happened. And, uh, here's their description of it. It says yesterday on

00:17:12.120 independence day, six police officers stopped by the Starbucks at Scottsdale road and

00:17:16.240 McCallops for coffee. The officers paid for their drinks and stood together having a cup of coffee

00:17:21.260 before their long 4th of July shift. They were approached by a barista who knew one of the officers by

00:17:26.920 name because he's a regular at the location. The barista said that, uh, a customer did

00:17:31.620 not feel safe because of the police presence. The barista asked the officers to move out of the

00:17:36.080 customer's line of sight or to leave disappointed. The officers did in fact leave the treatment of

00:17:42.220 public safety workers could not be more disheartening while the barista was polite, 0.59

00:17:45.800 making such a request at all was offensive. Unfortunately, such treatment, um, has become

00:17:50.380 all too common in 2019. All right. Uh, now Starbucks has apologized and pledged to do better and yada,

00:17:57.660 yada, so on. But that's not enough to stave off though. Well, speaking of boycotts. So there was

00:18:03.660 a boycott of Starbucks over this, uh, there was a boycott Starbucks campaign. So there's boycott

00:18:08.360 Starbucks, boycott Nike, boycott Home Depot. This is all in a week. All these boycotts are happening.

00:18:13.940 Um, and that's not to say that it's not without cause. I mean, this is this incident. I mean,

00:18:21.800 this is, this is crazy. The fact that the idea, the claim, um, that police officers will be asked

00:18:29.500 to leave because one customer felt unsafe with police officers. In fact, if let's just think

00:18:36.840 about this for a minute. If, if you're the cashier at a restaurant, um, and there are a bunch of police

00:18:43.760 officers in the place. And then another customer walks in and asks you to kick out the police

00:18:49.480 officers. I, there are a lot of reasons to ignore that request. Like it's crazy and unreasonable.

00:18:56.800 And just, of course I'm going to ignore, but also I would be pretty concerned about

00:19:00.400 why does this person not want police officers around? Certainly as a, as someone working behind

00:19:10.000 a register, I would feel a lot safer with the cops. So it's just a general rule of thumb. If you,

00:19:15.820 if you work behind a register and there are cops in there and then some other person walks in and

00:19:20.020 says, Hey, can you get rid of those cops? Uh, yeah, I mean, it was, we'll worry about my transaction

00:19:24.200 in a minute, but, uh, if you could just kick those cops out first and Hey, by the way, you see those

00:19:28.580 security cameras, they make me feel unsafe too. I just, I feel, you know, it's voyeuristic. I feel

00:19:32.740 watched. If you could just cut those off, I think that'd be great too. And, uh, the register when it's,

00:19:37.640 uh, it's locked like that. It makes me, it makes me feel, it feels like you don't trust me. So if

00:19:41.220 you can just open the register and go wait in the back for 10 minutes. Um, yeah, that's see,

00:19:46.040 I'd, I'd be worried about that personally. So it's obviously completely ludicrous. It's, uh,

00:19:53.520 these cops were paying customers. They weren't by any accounts in there threatening anybody. They

00:19:59.200 were just sitting there drinking coffee. And that is a, an important point because when this

00:20:06.980 controversy was, was happening last week, there were a lot of people in this case, defending

00:20:13.720 Starbucks, um, or at least, uh, saying that we shouldn't be outraged about it. And they

00:20:21.540 were drawing comparisons to the incident that happened a couple of years ago at a Starbucks

00:20:26.000 in Philadelphia, which you may remember where there was a huge blowup because a couple of

00:20:31.400 black men were asked to leave the establishment. And then when they refused to, the cops were called

00:20:36.420 on them. Now I, uh, defended Starbucks in that case, I don't defend them here. And there were

00:20:47.020 plenty of liberals online last week saying, well, you're a, you're a, you're a hypocrite. If you

00:20:52.520 would, or you're a racist, I mean, why else would you say you're fine with them kicking out black men,

00:20:56.840 but not officers. You must be racist. What other explanation could there be? Well, I'll tell you

00:21:01.700 the other explanation because there's a very clear difference in the case a couple of years ago,

00:21:07.180 those people who happen to be black, um, their race really is not relevant. The fact is these were,

00:21:14.660 these were individuals who were sitting in a busy Starbucks restaurant, um, taking up tables and not

00:21:22.500 buying anything. Now, if you've ever been to a busy Starbucks, you know, that table space can be hard

00:21:28.620 to come by. There are plenty of times when I go to a Starbucks and I want to sit down with my laptop

00:21:32.820 and do some work. And I can't because there are people sitting at the tables, which fine. I mean,

00:21:37.040 they got there first, but if I came into a Starbucks and I bought something and I saw someone

00:21:42.320 taking up a table who hadn't bought anything and was just sitting there. Yeah. I'd be annoyed by that.

00:21:46.000 It's like, you're not a customer. That's that I earned the right to that table by buying this coffee.

00:21:50.680 You didn't do that. You should leave. So that was the issue with, um,

00:21:54.440 the Starbucks in Philly that these, these people were sitting at a table, not buying anything.

00:22:03.280 And you don't have a right to take up space at a table. If you don't buy something,

00:22:06.980 you have to be a paying customer, very simple policy. So the manager who was thrown under the

00:22:11.820 bus by, um, by the CEO of, of, of, uh, of Starbucks and was slandered as a racist.

00:22:18.680 The manager who was simply trying to enforce company policy and a reasonable company policy

00:22:24.560 went over to the people and said, Hey, um, you got to buy something. If you want to take the table,

00:22:29.940 that's fine. I'll, what do you want? I'll get you a coffee. I'll get you a bottle of water.

00:22:33.780 She offered to serve them like a, like she was a waitress actually bring the stuff to the table 0.99

00:22:39.460 for them. She was so desperate to just get them to buy anything at all, just buy anything. And you are

00:22:45.040 a paying customer. You could take the table. They categorically refuse to buy something they refused.

00:22:52.960 And that's when she had no choice, but to call the police, which, because at that point they're

00:22:56.580 trespassing when they, when you come into a restaurant and say, I'm going to take up a table.

00:23:00.000 I refuse, you know, I'm not going to buy anything. I don't feel like that. Get out of my face. I'm not

00:23:03.000 buying anything. Well, you deserve to be taken out in handcuffs. And I mean, you're such a jerk.

00:23:08.060 You couldn't just buy a bottle of water just to, just to follow the policy and, and, you know,

00:23:12.880 earn your right to a table. That's what happened there. In this case, these officers had all bought

00:23:21.900 coffees. They were paying customers sitting at, not only paying customers, but regular, apparently

00:23:27.060 at least one of them, a regular paying customer sitting there enjoying a coffee. And they were

00:23:33.040 asked to leave. Um, not because of company policy, but because one other customer felt unsafe,

00:23:40.340 totally different scenarios. And one is completely justified. The other is completely unjustified.

00:23:46.820 I think that's pretty obvious. All right. One, uh, one other thing that we're going to talk about

00:23:53.660 briefly before we get to emails, there's apparently, um, now maybe you've heard about this, some kind of

00:24:01.240 internet trend where people do this. If you're listening on iTunes, which, which is probably

00:24:17.600 good. So you didn't have to witness that. Um, which to me, it just, even that is one of the most

00:24:24.720 nauseating videos, especially as a germaphobe. I, I, I really, I feel nauseated. Just look like,

00:24:30.900 I feel like I might throw up. That was a video of a woman licking a carton of ice cream at a store 1.00

00:24:37.640 and then putting it back in the freezer and walking away. Um, you'll be happy to know that the psycho 0.94

00:24:43.200 was found and, uh, and she faces 20 years in prison. Now she's clearly not going to actually

00:24:49.500 be sentenced to anything close to 20 years though. In my opinion, she would deserve it if she did. 1.00

00:24:55.600 But now you've got this trend with other people apparently going and licking ice creams

00:25:01.200 or otherwise, uh, dispensing their saliva into various food items at grocery stores and then

00:25:08.660 putting the item back and walking away. I saw one where a guy spit into a jug of iced tea and then put

00:25:14.780 it back and walked away. Now, if I were dictator of the country, when I am dictator, I should say,

00:25:23.000 I will have armed guards in every grocery store in the country and they will shoot you on site.

00:25:31.440 If it even looks like you might be thinking of licking an ice cream. And also if you squeeze

00:25:37.560 produce items to check for rightness and then put them back, you'll be shot on site. Um, if you leave

00:25:42.920 your shopping carts, obviously without putting them away in the parking lot, you'll be shot on

00:25:46.460 site. If you take too long at the self checkout, you'll be shot on site. If you, um, take more than

00:25:53.280 10 items to the 10 item or less lane, you'll be shot on site. Uh, basically it's going to be a bloodbath

00:25:58.780 at grocery stores when I'm dictator, but civility will finally reign supreme at the end of it. There

00:26:03.560 will be some, there, there will be some growing pains, uh, under my dictatorship, but ultimately you

00:26:09.660 all, those of you who survive, which will be probably not many of you will thank me for

00:26:14.680 these policies that I will put in place right now though, as for this licking thing,

00:26:20.100 I just can't wrap my head around, not just how psychotic you have to be to do that in the first

00:26:32.060 place, but how stupid you have to be to do something illegal on camera and then put it online. 0.69

00:26:41.720 Like you're, you're, you're going to be arrested for that. You, we have your face. It's a, it's you,

00:26:48.140 you're, you are providing evidence of your own crime to the public. And this of course is very common.

00:26:56.820 It's what people do now. Um, it's one of the reasons why, uh, you know, I really do thank God

00:27:03.320 every day that YouTube and social media was, um, you know, didn't exist certainly when I was

00:27:12.720 in middle school. And by the time I was in late teens, it was first starting to kind of take,

00:27:18.180 it wasn't anything like it is now. And I, I do, I feel bad for kids that are growing up in a culture

00:27:25.940 where this is just everywhere permeates everything and you live your life online because, and not to

00:27:31.900 make excuses for it. And some of the people doing this, they don't look like kids at all. They look

00:27:35.180 like they're in their twenties. Um, but in terms of just video, taking video of yourself committing

00:27:42.480 crimes and putting that online. So that's something kids do a lot. And I think, um, it's, it's just

00:27:49.460 their kids, they, they go through, kids go through a phase of a very stupid phase where we're very

00:27:56.220 stupid, reckless phase. And now they go through that phase publicly online and they're all carrying

00:28:03.380 around phones with cameras on them so they can document all of it forever. And I feel bad for

00:28:10.220 them for that though. I don't feel bad for the people who, uh, go to jail for licking food products

00:28:17.760 at the grocery store because that is well-deserved, a well-deserved punishment. All right. Matt

00:28:22.340 Walsh show at gmail.com. Matt Walsh show at gmail.com is the email address. Uh, this is from

00:28:27.080 Daniel says, hi, Matt, just wanted to give you a little extra information on a point you brought up

00:28:30.740 on yesterday's show. While it is uncommon, sometimes attorneys are appointed against their will, even

00:28:36.220 when they're not a part of the public defender system per se. For example, here in Missouri, a few

00:28:41.240 years back, the public defender system was underfunded to the point that I believe, um, the Supreme

00:28:47.200 court here found that it could not provide a meaningful defense and compliance with the right

00:28:51.160 to an attorney for the numbers that it was faced with. Since attorneys are licensed by the Supreme

00:28:55.140 court, at least here in Missouri, we were obligated to be subject to appointments just by virtue of

00:28:59.560 having a license to practice law. Even attorneys that had no experience in criminal defense or

00:29:04.000 litigation of any sort were subject to this requirement. It didn't last long before emergency

00:29:08.160 funding came through and stopped the practice, but it does happen. I didn't personally get appointed

00:29:12.580 under this situation, but my County did start doing it briefly. I think it was even pro bono,

00:29:18.460 at least unless the funding came through subsequently your point that the attorneys, a certain class of

00:29:24.780 defendant has a right to are serving voluntary voluntarily virtue of working for the public defender's

00:29:29.920 office is correct. Probably 99.9% of the time, but there are definitely exceptions. Um, yeah,

00:29:36.360 I got a few emails from lawyers making that correction that we were talking yesterday. Someone emailed

00:29:40.360 yesterday saying, uh, you know, if we don't have the right to a doctor, uh, so if, if universal healthcare

00:29:47.620 is wrong, we don't have the right to a doctor, then, then how do we have the right to an attorney?

00:29:52.080 And I was talking about, um, one of the reasons, one of the differences is that the attorneys who you

00:29:59.240 have a right to are public defenders and they get into that line of work, um, knowing that that's going

00:30:04.920 to be their job. So it's not really that they're forced. It's, it's not compelled labor. It's not

00:30:10.000 slave labor. They go into that. And some people corrected me saying that, well, sometimes people

00:30:14.440 who are not public defenders can be forced, uh, which fine, but the, and that was, wasn't that

00:30:21.160 the premise of my cousin Vinny or he ended up representing a murderer or something or no,

00:30:27.800 he was accused of, I don't remember. Um, I've, I've already said enough wrong things on this subject.

00:30:32.980 I won't add onto it. The main point though, the main difference, as I, as I said yesterday,

00:30:37.800 is that, um, your right to an attorney is yes, it's a right that you have, but it's even more so

00:30:47.180 a responsibility that the state has to provide you with an attorney because the state, they're the

00:30:52.880 ones who bring the case against you. They're the ones trying to put you in jail. And so to avoid many

00:30:58.060 sorts of abuses, um, in our system, they also have the responsibility to at least give you the chance

00:31:05.280 to defend yourself by providing you with an attorney. And, um, that's the difference there.

00:31:10.740 Okay. This is from Alyssa says, hi, Matt. My name is Alyssa. The question, this question may be random,

00:31:16.320 but I'm curious to hear your opinion. Also, sorry about the length of my, the lengthy intro to my

00:31:21.340 question. I have a best friend who claims to have severe anxiety. The first time she brought this up,

00:31:26.680 it kind of took me off guard because she's a happy and outgoing individual. As we got to be closer

00:31:31.440 friends, I noticed she would bring up her anxiety disorder very often. And the more I got to know

00:31:35.940 her, the less I trusted that she actually had this disorder. I also noticed how popular the subject of

00:31:41.160 anxiety slash depression became outside of my best friend. So many people also claim to have this

00:31:46.260 disorder and I couldn't help but find a common trend. Um, and then these are bullet points,

00:31:52.160 majority of them being women. They often come off as a misfit or underdog. They all have different 1.00

00:31:58.480 colored hair or piercings or weird tattoos. They all constantly talk about it on social media or in

00:32:04.380 regular conversation. Lastly, they are often left leaning SJW type people. My best friend fits all of

00:32:11.340 these commonalities. I used to invite her out to the bar or parties, but I stopped because she would 0.96

00:32:17.080 give the excuse of her anxiety preventing her from going. I never really brought the excuses or bought

00:32:23.240 the excuses because I feel like it was very picky and choosy. Also, she really likes to go out with

00:32:27.820 one of her other best friends. It could just be that she doesn't want to go out with me, which is

00:32:31.380 fine. I just don't care to be lied to. My question is, is it wrong to feel like she doesn't actually have

00:32:38.280 an anxiety disorder? Do you also notice these trends when it comes to anxiety disorders? If you do,

00:32:43.980 what is your opinion? P.S., you're my favorite. That's really why I read that whole email is just

00:32:50.420 to get to the P.S. No, actually, I read it because it is an interesting question. So, Alyssa, I understand

00:32:57.080 the type you're describing here, but of course, people of all type have anxiety. So, it's not just

00:33:02.840 the type you describe. And that's part of my issue. And I kind of agree with some of what you're saying.

00:33:12.240 And anxiety is a very human condition. It comes with being a human being, unfortunately. Nobody likes

00:33:23.840 it, but if you're a human, you have anxiety. It's just there's no way around it. There is no person

00:33:30.560 on earth who has no anxiety. So, I have a big problem with turning something so normal,

00:33:38.120 so integral to the human condition into a mental disorder. I have a problem with that.

00:33:48.900 Because in order to do that, we have to kind of arbitrarily say, well, this amount of anxiety is

00:33:55.920 okay, but if you go over this imaginary anxiety line, then it's a disorder. So, you're only supposed

00:34:04.200 to have X amount of anxiety, but if you have Y amount of anxiety, then you have a disorder.

00:34:09.540 Well, it's totally arbitrary. I mean, who decides what the correct amount of anxiety is? And how do

00:34:16.700 you measure it? And how do you quantify it? It just, it doesn't make any sense. And these are

00:34:22.220 basic questions that we never seem to ask about these, when it comes to this subject, about mental

00:34:28.440 disorders. It's like, who decided that this is the right amount of anxiety? And how do you measure

00:34:34.740 it? And, and, and, and, I mean, in order for it to be a disorder, um, I mean, think about the word

00:34:42.420 disorder, out of order. Okay. Well, if we agree that anxiety per se is a part of the natural order of

00:34:54.020 things for human beings in that, um, all humans have anxiety, if we agree with that, then we can't

00:35:01.100 say that simply having anxiety is disorder. Um, what you're doing is you're, you are looking at

00:35:08.480 someone and you are saying, okay, well, uh, they have a reason. So like this much of their anxiety

00:35:15.780 is, is natural, but then there's this extra part where there's no natural reason for it. And so that's

00:35:20.840 the disorder part. It just, it, again, it doesn't make sense. It's completely arbitrary. Now, the

00:35:27.900 point you bring up about, um, girls that have different color hair and all the different tattoos 1.00

00:35:34.020 and everything and the, all the different piercings, and they claim they have anxiety.

00:35:38.820 Well, of course, plenty of people say they have anxiety. Everyone does have anxiety. And there are

00:35:43.680 plenty of people who say they have anxiety disorders who don't fit that physical description that you

00:35:47.840 describe. However, um, when you look at someone, say a grown woman who has blue hair and a thousand

00:35:57.460 piercings and a thousand tattoos. And I say, this is someone with two tattoos myself, but, um, someone

00:36:03.640 who's like really into bodily body modification to the point of where it really becomes body mutilation

00:36:11.140 and all the weird hair and everything. I think that not in every case, but many times that's going

00:36:19.480 to be someone who suffered some kind of abuse, some kind of trauma as a child, um, at some point in

00:36:25.740 their life. And that's, you know, that's, I don't think that's a big secret, but someone who's really

00:36:30.600 into body mutilation is someone who's got issues. I mean, someone who, who, who, I think oftentimes,

00:36:38.160 if you were to look at their backstory, you're going to find that, uh, they suffered some real

00:36:42.580 trauma at some point in their life. And this, and what they're doing to their body now is partly an

00:36:49.140 expression of that. Well, if you do have trauma or if you did suffer in some way as a child, um,

00:36:57.900 then there's a certain natural anxiety that comes with that. Is it really disordered?

00:37:03.240 Um, so it's just that I keep going back to the word arbitrary, but that's what it is. Um,

00:37:13.040 it's the same thing, uh, oftentimes with depression where we say that someone has,

00:37:20.060 oh, well, they have the depression. It's a disease. They have a disease of depression.

00:37:23.760 And well, I think that very often, and depression is another thing that is, that is at least to a

00:37:33.440 point is a part of the natural human condition. Everybody is depressed. Sometimes everyone,

00:37:38.120 everyone suffers despair. I'm not just talking about sadness or having, you know, being a little

00:37:43.100 gloomy. I'm talking about despair. I mean, everyone at various points has been in despair,

00:37:47.460 but, um, I think when you talk to someone who's been diagnosed as clinically depressed

00:37:55.280 and you actually talk to them and you, you, you find out what's going on in their life,

00:38:00.220 very often you're going to discover that there are things happening in their life.

00:38:07.720 Things that did happen to them are happening to them that would naturally cause them to feel depressed.

00:38:15.160 So it's, it's not, it's not, it's not a disease. It is a, it is an emotional reaction to things that

00:38:22.100 they're going through. It doesn't mean that we should abandon them to their depression and say,

00:38:26.740 oh, well, you should feel depressed. Forget about you. No, not at all. Not at all. But just

00:38:30.960 it's, it's, it's, it's not a disease. It's just, it's, it's a reaction to things that in their life.

00:38:37.260 And, uh, if you really want to cure the depression, you have to look at those sources,

00:38:44.520 which are, which is, it's not just chemicals, that there are actual things in their life.

00:38:50.560 There's, there's a reason, a deeper reason, and you can get to those reasons and deal with those.

00:38:56.380 Um, so yeah, I think that there's, uh, that there are some issues, uh, with, with this whole subject,

00:39:06.700 uh, with the way that we approach mental disorders. Now it, it becomes a lot easier, um,

00:39:13.400 when somebody is having mental issues, psychological issues that are not a part of the natural human

00:39:22.500 experience at all. Well, then clearly in that case, there's a, there's a disorder. There's some

00:39:28.120 kind of disease. Like if someone is hallucinating, for instance, okay, well, hallucination is not a,

00:39:33.480 we can't say, oh, well, everyone hallucinates sometimes. Oh, no. I mean, most people don't

00:39:37.120 hallucinate. It's not a natural human thing. If that is happening to you, then there's clearly a

00:39:42.660 problem. There's something wrong in your brain and you got to go get that looked at and, and, uh,

00:39:47.280 and probably get some kind of medical treatment. Right. So that is, there are things that can happen.

00:39:51.660 I mean, if you're hearing voices, if, uh, I mean, there, there are plenty of, uh, you look at someone

00:39:56.260 who has dementia. Well, that's it. That is a brain disease or something happening to their brain.

00:40:00.980 It's not a natural thing. It's a disease. Um, that's completely different from an emotional

00:40:08.460 experience, which is a part of the natural human state. All right. Uh,

00:40:18.960 I guess we will, uh, we'll read one more. This is from Noah says, hi, Matt. My name is Noah. I'm 18

00:40:27.300 years old from Colorado. In your last episode, you said that science makes the creation account in

00:40:32.580 Genesis irrelevant. I don't agree with you on this subject. I have a quick question, which is this.

00:40:37.100 Why would God purposely lie to us about the creation when nothing would have been wrong if

00:40:42.900 he told the truth? Thanks for taking the time to read this. If you did. Well, just, I want to

00:40:47.960 clarify, no, I didn't say the Genesis account is irrelevant. I didn't say that at all. I don't

00:40:51.860 believe that. Um, that's not the point that I was trying to convey. Maybe I didn't do a good job of

00:40:58.200 conveying it. Um, my point is just when trying to understand the Bible, trying to interpret it

00:41:07.060 correctly, we have to understand what genre, any particular passage or book belongs to, and they

00:41:13.140 don't all belong to the same genre. And I think everyone agrees with that, right? Everyone knows

00:41:17.360 that they're not all the same genre. Um, so that's the first point. And then the second point just

00:41:22.100 relates to that. Okay. So we look at Genesis, we have to decide what genre is it. If it is a more

00:41:27.820 sort of metaphorical genre, um, that doesn't mean that God's lying to us. It doesn't mean that it's

00:41:33.640 irrelevant, uh, any more than revelation, which is obviously heavily metaphorical, but I, I w it's

00:41:40.460 not a lie. It's, it's, it's not irrelevant. It's certainly not a lie. It's just, it's just a, it's,

00:41:46.000 it's just a different sort of thing. It's not like the gospels, which are biographical and which

00:41:52.680 in a pretty straightforward way, just communicate what happened. Um, revelation is not that it's much

00:42:00.460 more poetic, much more metaphorical. And then I would say that Genesis

00:42:05.760 is a similar sort of thing. Um, although it's not apocalyptic literature, like revelation is

00:42:13.120 one of the ways that we know that it is at least partly metaphorical is that we understand the science

00:42:25.740 and we know that the literal interpretation just doesn't work with what we already know about

00:42:33.440 reality. That's one of the ways that we know that. And as I pointed out, I think it's a very

00:42:41.200 crucial point as I, and I've said this many times, but that for, for a long time, people thought that

00:42:49.060 the sun orbits the earth. And because they thought that they would interpret certain biblical passages

00:42:56.840 as, um, sort of literal descriptions of celestial phenomena. There are, there are certain biblical

00:43:05.200 passages, which if you read literally would seem to say that the sun orbits the earth and the earth

00:43:11.540 is the center of the universe. Well, once we were able to actually look and see and see that, okay,

00:43:18.640 well, that's not the case. It simply is not true. That's not how the world, that's not reality.

00:43:24.080 Then we had to go back and say, okay, well, we must have misinterpreted those passages.

00:43:29.000 And then we started to take some of that language and interpret it in more of a metaphorical way.

00:43:36.060 Which isn't to say those passages were lies. It's to say that we misunderstood them.

00:43:41.680 And one of the reasons we misunderstood them is because we didn't have a, because we had a,

00:43:46.080 we were ignorant of, of some things about the natural world. And once those, once those gaps in

00:43:52.520 our knowledge were filled in, well, now we were better able to go back and say, okay, well, now I

00:43:56.640 think I understand better what these passages are actually saying. Um, and I think it's, it's a similar

00:44:03.140 thing with, uh, with, with Genesis. Very similar. All right. Uh, we will leave it there. Thanks everybody

00:44:11.560 for watching. Thanks for listening. Godspeed. Today on the Ben Shapiro show, we check in with the

00:44:30.240 Jeffrey Epstein case. Who is implicated and who isn't? That's today on the Ben Shapiro show.

The Matt Walsh Show - July 09, 2019

Ep. 291 - People Who've Never Used A Screwdriver Are Boycotting Home Depot

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