Ep. 292 - The Largest Teachers Union In America Comes Out For Abortion
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The largest teachers union in America has just come out full throttle for abortion. We ll talk about that. Is it officially time to get out of the public school system and homeschool? Well, I would say yes, but we ll discuss it. Also, the efforts to make kids stop vaping have gotten hilariously corny. And is air conditioning sexist? I can t believe it's necessary to have that conversation, but it is. So we will today on The Matt Walsh Show.
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Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the largest teachers union in America has just come out full throttle for abortion.
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We'll talk about that. Is it officially time to get out of the public school system and homeschool?
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Also, the efforts to make kids stop vaping have gotten hilariously corny.
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I can't believe it's necessary to have that conversation, but it is.
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But the great Eric Swalwell has ended his campaign for president.
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He was the only light left shining in the dark.
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He was the lighthouse on stormy shores guiding us home.
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And we are floating, drowning in the dark ocean.
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I remember only a few days ago, my six-year-old son came up to me and we had a very real conversation.
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He said, Daddy, it feels like there's no hope in the world.
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Like we are just spinning chaotically through the void of space with no reason or purpose or destination in mind.
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And I looked at him and I said, I said, we do have hope.
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And he looked at me and he said, what is Swalwell?
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What am I supposed to say to him now that Swalwell has ended?
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Am I supposed to say to him, oh, never, never mind.
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I, you know, Swalwell left a campaign that excited the nation, a campaign that at its zenith polled at 0.5%.
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When so many people, literally tens and tens of people wanted this man to be president, yet he still drops out.
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So I just want to begin, as a matter of respect, with a moment of silence for Eric Swalwell and his campaign and also the future of the nation.
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You know, the interesting thing is that I think Eric Swalwell's audience, oftentimes when he would give speeches, his audience somehow, I think, sensed.
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Maybe his audience was as sort of prophetic as Swalwell himself.
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They had a premonition that this moment would come because sometimes, as I think very respectfully, beautifully, they would give him moments of silence during his speeches.
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I'm not really sure what he said there, but it was very profound.
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And to hear that moment of silence afterwards, just immense respect for this man who has unfortunately left us all to die.
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Well, what we actually are going to begin with today is I want to talk about why, well, I think where this is going to lead is why you should consider homeschooling, which is something I've talked about many times.
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There are about 80,000 chapters to this particular book about why you should homeschool rather than send your kid to public school.
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Today, we're going to focus on just one chapter.
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All right, Alexandra DeSanktis over at National Review, and she's one of my favorite writers, by the way.
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She's really on top of the abortion issue, a great pro-life advocate.
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I'm going to read the first paragraph or two to you.
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It says, over the weekend, the National Education Association adopted a new business item declaring its support for, quote, the fundamental right to abortion under Roe v. Wade.
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The NEA is the most influential teachers' union in the United States, with more than 3 million members.
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It's also the nation's largest labor union of any kind.
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We know that the NEA is a rabidly left-wing organization, has been forever.
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It has, as was mentioned there, 3 million members.
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And these are people that are teaching our children.
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It's not just that they have a left-wing bias, but that they're comfortable.
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They feel obliged, even, to be so blatant and so loud and proud about their bias.
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If this is what the NEA says publicly, what do you think these teachers, and by that I mean the true believers in the organization, the true left-wing believers, and they're not all true believers, all 3 million of them.
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But what do you think the true believers are saying to your kids when nobody else is around and when they don't have any other adult supervision?
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What do you think they're doing with your kids psychologically?
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It should go without saying, but I think it needs to be said anyway.
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That's one of the reasons why I'm an advocate for homeschooling, because the teachers have such power that it's just, is that power you really, power over your kids, specifically.
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Is that, are you really going to trust another person with that kind of power?
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If teachers are given a receptive, attentive mind, then they are going to have immense power over that mind.
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If our kids go to school, we need for them to have receptive and attentive minds.
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If they're not receptive, if they're not attentive, then school's a total waste of time and there's no point in even going.
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And it is, therefore, a waste of time for many kids.
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And there are a lot of good teachers who have to deal with the fact that a lot of the kids in there just aren't receptive to anything they're saying,
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But as for the kids who have, in a sense, the right mentality, that of receptiveness and attentiveness,
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now, you know, for those kids, we need teachers to be extremely responsible and honest and respectful in how they handle those minds,
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And many teachers, no doubt, are responsible and honest and they have integrity and they're respectful in how they deal with those minds.
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I had some teachers like that myself growing up.
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But listen, if all three million members of the NEA were responsible and honest,
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then there's no way the NEA would be the left-wing extremist organization that it is now.
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I mean, it may not represent ideologically everybody in the organization, but it does represent a significant chunk of it.
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If it didn't, then it wouldn't be a left-wing organization.
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So you have to think about that, that there are, therefore, plenty of actual left-wing radicals in that organization.
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They're the ones who have this power over your child's mind.
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And just think of what they can do, what they do, in fact, do with the receptive and attentive minds that they're given for molding.
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And that's why I think we should all at least consider the possibility that maybe we just can't trust.
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I mean, you may, hopefully, if you send your kid to public school, there are some teachers at your kid's school that you do trust.
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But there's no way you could trust all of them, especially if it's a large school.
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Now, of course, you could ask the question, putting all that to the side, why the hell is the NEA chiming in on abortion at all?
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All the children they deal with are already born.
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It is disturbing and creepy that they are so in favor of killing their future students.
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But the fact is that abortion should be irrelevant because they don't have anything to do with it.
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So why are they making official statements on abortion in the first place?
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Well, Alexandra DeSantis, in the article, she points out correctly that this is what intersectionalism, intersectionality, or whatever you call it, is all about on the left.
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And you must constantly prove you're bona fides, constantly present your left-wing resume to prove that you're in line with everything they think about everything.
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You have to always, the way they put it, is you have to prove you're an ally.
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You have to be an ally to all of the various different victim groups and all the special interests and everything.
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And you have to prove that by reciting the doctrines of the left.
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At what point we can complain about, this is one of the things that annoys me.
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Because we, as conservatives, we spend a lot of time complaining about the state of the culture, the state of society, so on and so forth.
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At what point, though, do we say, okay, you know what, enough complaining.
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I'm going to step up now and just, and do something.
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I'm just going to, I'm going to, yes, I realize that.
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You've got this left-wing idea, indoctrination that goes on.
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At what point do we say, okay, in, in, rather than notice that fact and continue to send my kids into that environment and just whine about it online, at what point am I going to say, I'm going to make a radical change.
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Even if it's a change that requires an enormous adjustment to my lifestyle, it requires enormous sacrifice.
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I'm going to make that change because it's, my kids are worth it.
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Now, I know that there are people out there who literally just cannot homeschool.
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They got to, and if they can't afford private school or if there aren't any good private, and there are plenty of private schools that charge you a lot of money, but in the end are no better than public school.
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So if you can't, you know, you got to work, can't afford a good private school, or there just aren't any good ones in the area, then what choice do you have?
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And there could be, I'm sure, plenty of homes out there with two parents where just economically, financially, they both have to work, at least right now, in order to survive.
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So there are people in that situation who have to send their kids into public school, unfortunately.
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Where public school is, I'm not saying it's, it can't be an option for anyone or that you're doing something objectively morally wrong by sending your kid to public school.
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What I'm saying is, I think we have to look at it as last resort.
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If there is literally no other option, then we do that.
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But if there is any other option, we take that other option.
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And if we all looked at it like that, then I think there would be, right now, a mass exodus from the public school.
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Because there are plenty of parents who send their kid into public school system, even though they really do have other options.
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Representative Joyce Beattie is a congresswoman from Ohio.
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Okay, so she looks and has the name of and is the age of someone's grandmother, which is great.
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But that context is important so that you can appreciate the comedy of what I'm about to show you.
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You see, Joyce, she wants teens to stop vaping.
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She thinks that vaping is bad and she wants people to stop doing it.
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And the tweet is supposed to encourage kids to stop vaping.
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If you begin a statement with, hey, teens, then they're already tuning you out.
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Okay, they already think you're out of touch and you're a nerd.
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It's just, if you want to talk to teens, never address them as teens.
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That's why the state of Ohio launched My Life, My Quit to show you that you don't need fat clouds to be radical.
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That tweet really makes me want to raise the roof.
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No, actually, that tweet is, it's a youth pastor on steroids.
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That is, I imagine, that's basically how a youth pastor speaks after downing a whole wine cooler.
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A whole box of, that's a youth pastor on one box of wine right there.
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And, you know, it goes back to a point I made a few weeks ago.
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I guess we give Joyce Beattie some points for trying, or maybe we don't.
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We are just making vaping seem even cooler by trying to stop teens from doing it.
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Okay, so when you want to stop teens from doing something, you need to be as, you know, as inconspicuous as possible in your aims.
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Especially if you're trying to make the thing seem less cool.
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And you have to remember that you, as an adult, are not cool.
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And so if you just come charging into the room and say, hey, teens, that's not cool.
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Whatever the thing is you said is not cool, you just increased its cool points by about 50.
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She's made not vaping so uncool that now I want to take it up.
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I actually want to vape for the first time because of that tweet.
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If my kids came to me at the age of six and said, hey, daddy, I want to start vaping.
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Do what you need to do because it's just, I mean, all right.
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In fact, this tweet is so bad that I might require my kids to vape.
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I, here's one other thing we'll, discussion I regret we have to have today, but we do.
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Um, every year as the temperature rises, we have this conversation now.
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And when I say we, I don't mean me, but, but society.
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Uh, we always have to hear in the summer that air conditioning is sexist.
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I don't know if you've encountered this yet, but it's a thing now.
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And every summer you hear it, especially if you're online, uh, air conditioning is a sexist
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conspiracy against women, apparently, evidently.
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Uh, and this is one of the new frontiers of feminism.
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Feminism, of course, in this country is so privileged, uh, so frivolous, so stupid, so
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silly that they are just, it's, it's, it's so desperate to find a, a, a reason to exist
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anymore that now they're focused on this, the fight against air conditioning.
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Um, a feminist will say that women, you know, tend to be less comfortable in, in cooler
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And many buildings and offices have AC and they set the AC very low.
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And this makes women chilly and therefore it is sexist.
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The New York times published, um, one of the yearly required think pieces on the subject,
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uh, with the title of do Americans need air conditioning answer.
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A staff writer for the Atlantic, Taylor Lorenz shared it with her own, you know, shared it
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with her followers and added her own little mini rant to it.
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She says, air conditioning is unhealthy, bad, miserable, and sexist.
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I can't explain how many times I've gotten sick over the summer because of overzealous AC
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Uh, then she continues dying at all the men in my mentions, having a literal meltdown because
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I suggested raising office temps a few degrees in the summer, no amount of AC on the planet
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And then she continues like by a fan, you're not going to die.
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I should be able to wear dresses in the summer and not get hypothermia.
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Weird that making women slightly more comfortable and productive at work causes so many men to
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I like how she says this was, this was a staff writer at the Atlantic, by the way.
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Um, this is someone who has a, an actual job writing in, in, in media at a supposedly, you
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know, prestigious publication, supposedly emphasis on supposedly.
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I like how she says, uh, you're not going to die, LOL.
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And then the very next sentence says she's going to get hypothermia if, if she walks into
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a building in the summer that's set at 68 degrees, she's going to get hypothermia indoors
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Uh, yet she's mocking men because, uh, they supposedly say they're going to die without AC.
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Well, well, here's the thing, a few, a few things here.
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Number one, um, no, the fact is you're not going to die from 68 degrees in a, in a indoors
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It makes you so like air conditioning doesn't make you sick.
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Now, on the other hand, you say, oh, you're not going to die.
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I mean, just imagine how privileged you have to be as a, as a, as a first worlder to sit
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there and say, you're not going to die from the heat.
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Meanwhile, literally thousands of people are dying from the heat every single year across the
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If you're an, if you are anti AC, I mean, just think about, especially in very hot areas,
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somebody is outside, they they're on the verge of heat exhaustion, um, too much exposure to
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And then they go inside and it's air conditioned and they cool down.
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I mean, that I, I, I am sure that in fact, many lives have been saved because they were
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on the verge of heat exhaustion and then we're able to get into a cooler temperature.
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If you don't have any AC in the world, then there's not going to really be any cooler
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And so it's going to be harder to recover from or stave off, uh, heat exhaustion.
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But if you are anti AC, I have to assume that either you're just totally full of it and you're
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a hypocrite and you claim to be anti AC while you use AC all the time in actuality, which
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I'm sure is probably the case with Taylor here, or, uh, maybe you live in like Maine or something,
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or, you know, uh, because I guarantee you that no human being South of say new England,
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um, could possibly really be against air conditioning.
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And if you go down to Texas or Arizona, um, this is just, this is someone who's never been
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I mean, there's no way you could go South, Texas, Arizona, you go anywhere in South and
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Um, the idea of living without AC down there is just utterly absurd.
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Of course, people did it for thousands of years and people still do it today, but you
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People live without washing their hands or bathing for months on end.
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I mean, that also, people live with malnutrition.
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People live in a lot of different ways, but that's, you know, fortunately in modern civilization,
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we have improved on some of these areas greatly and we have made for better living conditions,
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healthier living conditions, more comfortable living conditions, living conditions that
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will preserve, preserve your life and your health.
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AC is one of those modern inventions that is just absolutely positive, absolutely good.
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It's just, look, I'm all about criticizing modern society and, um, and, and, uh, criticizing
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I mean, you want to talk about the internet, for example, if you want to make an argument that
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the internet has really been a net negative for mankind and we'd be better off without
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it, then I would probably have to agree with you, even though I make my living on the internet.
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But AC is one of those things that, no, that's just, that is a net positive all the way.
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There's really nothing bad about it, um, other than what it costs you to run it.
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And, uh, and that's all there is to it now as for, because I really want to address this
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also, okay, what I've said so far, if you're a sane person, you agree, let's move on to
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the more contentious element of this debate as for the temperature at the office.
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And I'm going to man, I'm, I'm mansplaining now a hundred percent.
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This is, this is a mansplaining moment because I feel like as a man, I, you know, I think there
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are some women Taylor being one of them, but not just Taylor who maybe don't understand
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why men like to turn the AC down, especially in an office environment.
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You can put on a layer and you'll be, you could bring a blanket to work.
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I mean, you can do anything or, or just, just put on a sweater or don't, you know, Taylor
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But if you're not comfortable in it, maybe wear something else.
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You, you, you can't dress like you're going to the beach and then whine that the temperature
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I think nine times out of 10, when you have a woman's house, too cold in here, you look
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It's like, okay, we'll put on a little bit more clothing and then you won't be as cold.
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Um, hot people, this is, this is the way it works.
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Hot people can only take off so many layers before they go to jail.
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So that's, that's why, that's why in the summer with the AC, the hottest person gets priority
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I mean, you could put on as many layers as you want, but probably if the AC is set at
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67, God forbid, um, and you're really cold, one layer is all it's going to take and you'll
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If you need six layers because it's 67 or 68 degrees, then you really do have a medical
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Um, so that's all there is to another thing to keep in mind, men, uh, at, especially in
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an office environment are often required to wear suits.
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Um, and if not suits, they, they have to wear long pants and oftentimes they have to wear
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long sleeves and they might have to wear a tie.
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I mean, it's pretty common in an office environment.
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Uh, you know, business attire for a man is long sleeves and long pants at a minimum.
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And, uh, oftentimes also a suit depending on where, especially if you're in a place like
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DC is where a lot of these complaints come from is these, these privileged, uh, whiny
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Um, yeah, but if you go to DC where it can get really hot in the summer and you look around
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all the men are wearing suits and they're not wearing suits because they want to, they're
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wearing suits because they have to, if it's 105 degrees in DC, you're going to see men
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walking around in jackets that they have to wear.
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So yet again, they are, you know, depending on the office policy, they have to dress that
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they can't dress down any more than they already are.
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Whereas you as a woman, you can, I mean, see, this is one area.
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I know that we have this competition by, Oh, you know, who, who has it worse as a gender
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women have to deal with, um, menstruation and child labor.
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And, and, and that is one difficulty that you have that I do not envy.
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And, um, I, you know, I'm, I'm very happy that as a man, I don't menstruate.
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Although, you know, we're told that maybe it's possible that I could as a man, because who
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But as it stands right now, you know, I have, I cannot get pregnant.
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Um, I, I admit I'm happy about that and, uh, I'm glad that I don't.
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I'm sorry that you are the one that has to carry that burden, but you got to give us,
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I mean, this is one area where you do have it easier.
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And that is when it comes to formal attire or business attire.
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I mean, you have so many options for what you can wear and you can change.
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Depending on the season, you can adjust your outfit to the season.
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It doesn't matter if it's, if it's five degrees or 500, we have to wear the same damn thing.
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So if we want to turn the AC down a little bit, then just, why not just be cool about
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it, pun intended, and, and, and bring a sweater to work, leave it at your desk.
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Uh, or, or where warm, it just, there are so many things you can do about it.
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Um, and don't say, well, you could always bring a fan.
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Well, you know what a fan just, all that does is if it's hot inside, the fan just shoots
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So the AC, the thing about the AC is actually, it actually creates cooler air, which, which
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again, when it's summertime, that's normal people want it to be cooler inside when it's
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I'm glad that I was able to spend, uh, 45 minutes on it.
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Um, uh, the, the emails I'm going to get from that conversation.
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This is from Lizette, uh, Matt wall show at gmail.com Matt wall show at gmail.com.
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Um, this is from Lizette says, hi, Matt, in response to the anxiety issue brought up in
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Tuesday's episode, I don't think the line about when it becomes a disorder is that arbitrary
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anxiety becomes a disorder when it affects your daily life and your ability to function
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Naturally all humans have anxiety, but they also have, have healthy coping mechanisms that
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For example, many people get anxiety about job interviews, but if you just don't show
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up for any interview or never even apply because of that anxiety, then that's a disorder, right?
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Uh, yeah, we talked yesterday about anxiety disorder.
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And I said my, I think with, with the so-called anxiety disorder, like with many mental disorders,
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um, it, I think that we may be dealing with a category error by calling these things mental
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disorders because they are a part of the normal human condition.
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And it just seems so arbitrary where we draw the line and say, yeah, okay, well this amount
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But then if you have this amount, it's not normal.
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Therefore it's a disorder who decides where that line is drawn.
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Now, uh, Liz Lizette says, well, no, if it, if it negatively affects your daily life, that's
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And yeah, I got other emails from people saying the same thing.
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Now I've said before, it, I don't think ADHD exists.
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And what I mean by that is what is, what does ADHD stand for?
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Now people, I think people who exhibit those characteristics that we label ADHD, those people
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I am one of those personality types and I, and I know that I exist.
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It is just a type of person and, and, and it's okay to be that type.
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It may be, it may be harder in some environments and may be inconvenient at school, but that
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I think the disorder label, that's what I'm taking issue with.
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That's that, you want to talk about social constructs?
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We have decided in our society that those types of people are just not easy to have around.
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And I think it's, um, a similar thing with, you know, anxiety and depression, some of
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Now, the problem is you say, okay, well, if it affects your life.
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But of course it, you know, we agree that everybody has anxiety, right?
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And anxiety is always going to have some kind of negative effect on your life.
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I, there can be scenarios where I guess anxiety is good.
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Like if you have anxiety about doing something dangerous and then you don't do the dangerous
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But for the most part, we all have anxieties, um, about things that, you know, anxieties
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that cause us to do things or not do things, um, you know, that, that have a negative impact
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Well, if you get distracted, it has a negative effect on you and you're like, well, yeah,
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We're all negatively impacted by, we all have struggle paying attention.
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Sometimes we all have times where we're, we have trouble sitting still and that always
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is going to have a negative impact on our life.
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So my point is you can't get around the fact that there is going to be an arbitrary line
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somewhere, but because the line is arbitrary, you don't know where it is.
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Even though you didn't say it, I assume you agree that we all have anxiety and we have all
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been negatively impacted in our life by anxiety.
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You're not going to find a single person on the planet who that doesn't, who doesn't fit
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So then what we're saying is, okay, yeah, um, everybody has anxiety.
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Everyone's negatively impacted by it, but if you're negatively impacted this much, it's
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But if you're negatively impacted that much, it's not fine.
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So there is somewhere, there's like a, there is a somewhere, there's a line somewhere where,
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okay, if you're negatively impacted up to that line, it's not a disorder.
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But if you cross over that invisible arbitrary line that someone just placed there and could
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place anywhere, but they chose to put it there.
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It just, it doesn't, it, it really doesn't make sense.
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And this is not, we can say all the time, oh no, it's a real disease.
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If you have cancer, if you have diabetes, um, if you have any, you know, any, any real physical
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disease, the doctor isn't going to look and say, oh, well, how is it affecting your life?
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Um, or, you know, how, how much of it do you have?
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It's like, that doesn't, if you have any amount of cancer, it's a problem.
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Now, depending on how much cancer you have, how bad it is, it might determine how they
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treat it, but it's, there is no healthy amount of cancer.
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If you have diabetes, um, it doesn't really matter if it affects how much it affects your
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It probably will affect your life tremendously, but the doctor isn't going to get into, well,
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It's only with mental disorders where we get into this thing of, well, does it affect your
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And it's just, I think that is an indication that we are dealing with something other than
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It just isn't, it is a different sort of thing.
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It doesn't mean that it isn't, uh, it isn't serious.
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It doesn't mean that it, uh, that it doesn't affect your life.
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I'm just saying it's, we are dealing with a different category of thing.
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And I don't know why people get so, and I'm not saying you did, Lizette, but people tend
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to get very bent out of shape about this topic.
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And if you question whether this or that supposed mental disorder is really a disease, uh, people
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If I was sitting here trivializing and say, oh, you're fine.
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I, you should be upset about that because that's, that is dismissive and stupid.
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And I'm not saying that if I'm just trying to figure out what category it actually belongs
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Uh, not as serious, but when we have this argument about, um, and we've talked about
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on the show before about, you know, is, uh, is this or that activity really a sport?
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And, um, I've, I've said that, uh, you know, figure skating is not a sport and people say,
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Um, I think it's, you know, it's not my cup of tea.
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I don't really sit and watch it, but, but I, I think it's an incredible talent.
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I have a lot of respect for people that are good at it.
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In fact, art forms are, you know, arguably art is a, is a, is a more elevated thing than a
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Um, when we talk about people that have the ADHD personality, when we talk about people
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that struggle with anxiety, which by the way, the first, I, I qualify both with both of those.
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Uh, we talk about people that struggle with depression and so on.
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I think it is something deeper than mere chemical reaction.
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I think it is something more to the core of a person.
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Uh, and so really I, I, rather than trivializing it, I'm doing the opposite.
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I'm saying, no, it's actually more serious than that.
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Now with ADHD, I would say that, you know, in fact, this is who a person is.
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And so we need to figure out how to harness that personality and get those people into,
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uh, you know, a lifestyle, into a line of work where, where it, where it helps to be
00:39:37.380
When it comes to something like a depression and anxiety, I do think it's just my opinion.
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Um, you know, I think there are a lot of people out there who are diagnosed with anxiety, who
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really, they just have a normal amount of anxiety.
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I know I just said it's arbitrary, but, but really they just, I think there are a lot of
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people that just, you know, I do think there are people who want essentially to have a mental
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Um, maybe because it provides an excuse for them.
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Um, uh, you know, maybe in a sense it's become almost trendy where people go around talking,
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And so I think there are a lot of people in that category.
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I don't know how many, just, I think there are a lot, but then I think there are other
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And again, it's, we're, we're, we're talking in court.
00:40:30.280
So it's, it's difficult to do, but whatever this means, there are people who have a lot more
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People who do struggle, um, to live a normal life and to go out in public and do normal
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You know, I think there are a lot of people diagnosed with depression who actually are
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just kind of sad and oftentimes for really obvious reasons, like something bad happened
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They get diagnosed as depressed, which, which actually causes them to never address the
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I think there are people like that, but then there are also people who it's much deeper
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Um, the people in that category, I still think when we think in terms of diseases, we may be
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failing to get to the heart and the core of the problem.
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I actually think it's probably deeper than that.
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I mean, think about it when, when you, when you have severe anxiety or when you're very
00:41:37.080
depressed, there are things going on in your mind, right?
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I mean, really, when you, when you talk about your anxiety, you're describing thoughts that
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And so are those thoughts really just chemicals or is there something else?
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It's just chemicals or, or misfirings like a computer.
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I think sometimes when you talk to a severely depressed person and they start talking about
00:42:09.240
life and I've had this experience, they start talking about life.
00:42:13.320
They start talking about, um, uh, you know, their, their, their thought processes.
00:42:25.660
It's not like they're, you know, it's not, they're not crazy when they talk about some
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of the inherent sort of misery you find in life and some of the meaninglessness of this
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and that and, and, and the struggle to find meaning.
00:42:42.300
So I think one of the problems when we, when we reduce it to chemicals, we're, ah, they just
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We are totally dismissing all of their thoughts and saying, oh, none of that's real.
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Um, I think there's a lot of reality to it, but we have to figure out how to sort through
00:42:58.400
it, how to harness it, how to, you know, how to, how to, how to put it in proper perspective,
00:43:05.120
Last thing I'll say, um, on this topic that I think there are a lot of people on medicine
00:43:14.740
for this stuff who shouldn't be on medicine, but maybe if you, if you say to me and people
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Now, I think we shouldn't be putting kids on that on medicine for ADHD at all, but we
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It's not fair to them, but there are adults who say, listen, uh, you know, you say it's
00:43:35.120
All I know is that for me, I take the ADHD medicine.
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Um, I just, I, I like my life more when I'm able to take this stuff.
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I, I think maybe that could be a perfectly reasonable reason to take something.
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My point is maybe it doesn't necessarily have to actually be medicine for a real disease,
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but it, maybe it's just, it helps you and you like, uh, how it, you know, how it sort
00:44:08.180
And so you take it, uh, so that, no, I think that that approach could be abused and, and
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you know, so it's, it's, we shouldn't always just take anything because it makes us feel
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good, but that could be a perfectly reasonable justification for taking something for ADHD
00:44:27.200
or, or anxiety, uh, where even you say, well, maybe it's not a disease, but look, it, it
00:44:33.160
Not that it matters if I give my blessing or not, but, uh, I do think that that could
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Um, this is from Luke says, hi, Matt Luke here.
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And I need to start out with a story of an unforgettable morning of mine recently.
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My wife and I woke up very early to a bunch of loud chaos in my boys' room.
00:45:00.320
I was about to grab my shotgun, but it sounded like it was just them together.
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And they were just having a lot of fun, too much fun.
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After stepping out of our bedroom and had confused days, I noticed that the front door
00:45:08.860
was wide open and our rabbits were released outside of their pens and running around that.
00:45:12.640
I walked towards my boys' room and suddenly noticed at the corner of my eye on the table,
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All of our fish from our fish tank were lying on the dining room table, still flopping around,
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I then proceeded towards my boys' bedroom, thinking that I was simply in some abstract nightmare
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and was curious as to where this dream would end up.
00:45:31.420
They had opened their window, and my older son went outside and literally threw all nine of our chickens
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from the pen into their bedroom and shut the window, and they were chasing them around in circles,
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Feathers were everywhere, and I mean everywhere, along with a mess from all nine chickens.
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They froze, looking at me as if they would not live to see breakfast.
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I just stared and thought for a minute about everything that had just happened and told
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them to bring the chickens out, and I went to my bedroom.
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They later told me that they simply wanted to set all the animals free to play, so they
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So, that leads to my question, and that is, do you believe correctly that pineapple belongs
00:46:12.680
Thank you, Luke, for that question and that setup, which I think was very necessary for me
00:46:17.400
to understand the full context of your question about the pineapple and the pizza.
00:46:21.960
And, um, the answer to your question is that, of course, the, no, uh, fruit does not belong
00:46:33.960
And I know you might say, oh, well, uh, well, tomato is technically a fruit.
00:46:41.400
Tomato has been adopted into the vegetable family.
00:46:45.820
Vegetables and fruits, these are social constructs anyway.
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And, uh, and no, you absolutely do not put pineapple on pizza.
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There is, it's, it's not that I can't eat pizza with pineapple.
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And if you, if you give me a pizza, I'll eat it.
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I don't care what you put on it, but, um, it, it won't improve the situation.
00:47:07.840
Like I'm never going to have a slice of pineapple pizza and say to myself, oh, I'm really glad
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I'm never going to say, oh, I can't think of anything better that could have possibly
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Again, I will still stuff my fat face and eat five of them, but I'm not going to like it.
00:47:48.080
It's Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan show.
00:47:51.620
They only become news when the left can use them for political purposes.
00:47:54.940
If they can attack Trump's attempts to secure the border or give the Catholic church a bad
00:47:59.460
name or take out a Republican candidate who did something wrong.
00:48:03.140
But when it comes to the persistent organized sexual abuse of underage girls and boys, the
00:48:10.880
Let's keep an eye on this Epstein case and see where it goes on the Andrew Klavan show.