The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 293 - Beto Says America Is A Racist Hellscape

00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Walsh Show, Beto O'Rourke went down to the border to meet with immigrants and refugees, and he proceeded to trash America. 1.00

00:00:07.300 He's just a great guy, but we'll talk about that. 0.95

00:00:09.840 Also, AOC implies that Nancy Pelosi is racist, which is kind of hilarious, but also, on the other hand, disgusting. 1.00

00:00:19.540 And I want to talk about the very common modern practice of filming troubled people so that we can laugh at them online. 1.00

00:00:27.000 I think that maybe we should stop doing that. We'll talk about the latest example today on The Matt Walsh Show.

00:00:34.780 So Beto O'Rourke, poor fella, there was a time when he was getting a lot of hype.

00:00:40.820 He was considered a real contender, but now he's lost somewhere in the middle of the pack with nary a table to stand on.

00:00:47.840 And he's because, I think mainly because he's dealing with probably a fatal flaw for a Democrat in 2019, and that is that he's a white male. 1.00

00:00:55.940 The problem with being a white male is that, number one, white males are toxic scum and should all die. 1.00

00:01:03.020 So that's problem number one. 1.00

00:01:04.280 Number two, related to number one, is that if you're a white male, then you're automatically going to be under suspicion of being un-woke.

00:01:13.940 Okay, so un-wokeness is a condition that plagues most white males. 0.52

00:01:19.940 So if you are a white male, people are going to suspect that you lack wokeness, which means that if you want to run for president as a Democrat, you're going to have to do quite a lot to prove your innocence, to prove that you are in fact woke, that you are not guilty of the crime of being un-woke.

00:01:34.640 So it is a guilty until proven innocent sort of situation.

00:01:38.780 And Beto, along with his other white male candidate compatriots, has been trying very hard to quell the suspicions that he may in fact be un-woke.

00:01:46.380 And that is why he went to a group of immigrants yesterday and trashed America, talked about how bad America is, which is a very woke thing to do. 0.99

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00:03:42.320 All right, so Beto, in Pursuit of Wokeness, maybe that should be the, you know, sort of Pursuit of Happiness, maybe that should be the name of his memoirs, Pursuit of Wokeness.

00:03:55.360 He went to speak to a group of immigrants and refugees yesterday, and he said this.

00:04:00.020 Watch.

00:04:00.180 This country was founded on white supremacy, and every single institution and structure that we have in our country still reflects the legacy of slavery and segregation and Jim Crow and suppression, even in our democracy.

00:04:15.220 Okay, a few things here.

00:04:17.520 First, and this is the part I don't get. 0.95

00:04:23.080 If you are, if it's true that America is a racist, sexist, bigoted hellscape founded on white supremacy, and to this day institutionally oppresses minorities, 0.90

00:04:36.380 a country where the legacy of slavery still lives on, is still alive and well and affecting minorities even today, 0.99

00:04:43.200 then why the hell would you encourage immigrants to come here? 1.00

00:04:47.420 It seems like a very cruel and hateful thing to do.

00:04:51.120 I mean, wouldn't it be an act of compassion, an act of concern and sympathy to prevent them from coming?

00:04:58.600 Shouldn't you be, shouldn't you yourself then, if you hold this position, if you hold this view,

00:05:03.340 shouldn't you, shouldn't Beto O'Rourke be standing at the border yourself saying,

00:05:07.800 no, don't come here, save yourself anywhere but here?

00:05:11.400 No, but that's not what happens.

00:05:14.740 The people that hold this view, these are the same people flinging open the doors and saying,

00:05:20.000 hey, come on in, encouraging people to come.

00:05:22.800 It's like giving a restaurant a scathing review on Yelp and then turning around and recommending the place to all of your family and friends.

00:05:32.720 It just, it doesn't, so if you do that, it means that either your review was untrue and you really liked the place more than you said,

00:05:42.000 or you hate your friends and family even more than you hate the restaurant, that you're trying to inflict that on them.

00:05:49.060 So it just does, it doesn't make sense to, oh, you know, this place is terrible, I got salmonella poisoning.

00:05:54.020 And then the next day, hey, you know, that joint down the street, you should really check that out.

00:05:57.820 You'll love it. 0.99

00:06:00.180 You're like a biological terrorist in that case. 0.98

00:06:03.040 And so it's a similar thing here. 0.94

00:06:05.020 You're saying that it's a racist place, it's a horrible, and then you're, what's going to happen to all these people that you're encouraging to come here?

00:06:13.040 Not only that, but you're saying we're running concentration camps down on the border.

00:06:16.660 And you're still encouraging people to come.

00:06:19.320 What's wrong with you?

00:06:20.100 How evil can you be?

00:06:23.480 But it's worse than that, because Democrats will not only encourage minorities to come here, where they're going to allegedly be oppressed and discriminated against in locked in concentration camps.

00:06:34.880 But they'll even say that America is their, you know, is their hope.

00:06:40.860 It's the fulfillment of a dreamer's dream.

00:06:43.560 It's their only chance at a better life, et cetera.

00:06:45.920 Well, fine, but if that's the case, then you can't also say that America is a handmaid's tale.

00:06:53.340 It's sort of, it's got to be one or the other.

00:06:55.360 You have to choose one narrative or the other.

00:06:57.540 It can't be that we have to fling open the doors for immigrants because this country is their only hope and their only dream.

00:07:04.780 But then also, it is a dystopian, racist, nightmare, you know, land of horrors for minorities.

00:07:14.100 It's just, you really got to choose. 0.96

00:07:16.900 Second thing, these white male Democratic candidates have a problem.

00:07:25.980 If it's really as bad as they say, that it's hard to justify staying in the race at all as a white male.

00:07:32.940 I mean, shouldn't a minority or a woman or both be in charge in that case? 1.00

00:07:37.300 Of course, all the white males in the race have said, oh, yeah, you know, I'll have a female vice president. 1.00

00:07:42.920 But that's even worse because now you're saying, yeah, I mean, we should definitely have women in power, but they shouldn't be in charge. 1.00

00:07:52.940 I mean, there's still got to be a man above the woman just making sure everything's squared away. 0.95

00:07:57.560 So, yeah, we definitely need to have a woman in the White House, but no, no, no, not in charge. 1.00

00:08:04.080 Hold on a second.

00:08:04.940 I mean, these are women we're talking about here, okay? 0.97

00:08:08.800 That's what it sounds like when you start doing, oh, yeah, well, we definitely need to have a woman in there. 1.00

00:08:14.080 No, not there, not sitting behind the Oval Office, but with a smaller desk, but still with a desk.

00:08:20.540 It just doesn't work.

00:08:23.920 That's the problem you run into.

00:08:25.760 And that's why, as a white male, you will always lose the identity politics game.

00:08:30.720 You just, you can't, it's a lose-lose for you.

00:08:33.300 There's no way to win, so you have to just not play it or completely submit to it and withdraw from public life entirely 1.00

00:08:45.240 because you are, as I said, toxic scum who should die as a white male. 1.00

00:08:50.360 And so am I. 1.00

00:08:51.340 Let's be clear.

00:08:53.420 Third, maybe this is the most important thing to discuss.

00:08:59.040 Is it true, is what Beto said true?

00:09:03.920 Was America founded on white supremacy?

00:09:06.640 Well, no, of course it wasn't.

00:09:10.200 Founded on white supremacy implies that white supremacy was sort of the point.

00:09:15.280 Like the founders were looking primarily to establish a country where whites would be supreme, where they would be in charge. 0.96

00:09:22.300 But the thing is, they already had a country like that.

00:09:26.440 The country they broke away from, that was already the case. 0.51

00:09:30.140 And so that wasn't the point.

00:09:34.640 America was founded on principles of liberty and limited government.

00:09:39.280 That's what it was founded on.

00:09:41.820 I mean, read the Declaration of Independence.

00:09:43.860 Were those principles consistently and fully applied?

00:09:49.160 Well, no, of course they weren't.

00:09:51.160 But those were still the principles.

00:09:53.420 Is it true that, as Beto says, to get the exact quote,

00:09:57.240 every single institution and structure we have in this country still reflects the legacy of slavery?

00:10:02.800 Well, no, of course it's not true.

00:10:04.200 And if it were true, then what will, here's my question.

00:10:14.260 If it's true that America is still institutionally racist and that the legacy of slavery lives on its own,

00:10:21.840 what will make it so that that isn't true anymore?

00:10:28.260 Will it take more time?

00:10:29.800 Well, it's already been 150 years since slavery, and you're still saying that the legacy of slavery is there.

00:10:36.320 So apparently time doesn't matter.

00:10:38.640 Do we need to have more minorities in charge? 1.00

00:10:41.380 Well, we had a black president for eight years, and that apparently didn't even make a dent in institutional racism.

00:10:46.880 We had a black person running the whole system, the whole institution.

00:10:51.060 And apparently that, and if you thought that that meant that institutional racism was gone,

00:10:59.720 well, it would seem to mean that that would be a logical conclusion.

00:11:03.740 If a black man can successfully become the most powerful person in the country, 1.00

00:11:08.720 it would seem to indicate that we don't have a very serious problem with institutional discrimination against black men. 0.94

00:11:16.180 Or it means that the institutional discrimination is so incompetent and ineffective 0.95

00:11:22.440 that a black person can still become the president of the country. 0.92

00:11:26.640 Either way, but see, that would be a logical conclusion.

00:11:31.620 But leftists will say, oh, no, no, that's not.

00:11:35.020 Not only will they disagree with that conclusion, but they will heap scorn on you if you even suggest it.

00:11:40.980 Oh, you mean that just because we had a black president, there's not a problem with institutional racism?

00:11:44.520 Well, yeah, I guess I am saying that.

00:11:46.780 I think it probably does mean that.

00:11:48.040 That seems to be a logical, I mean, what?

00:11:50.560 But no, they'll say.

00:11:51.620 It's kind of like when, you know, leftists, they make these racism charges.

00:11:59.580 And they accuse everyone of being racist and everything of being racist.

00:12:02.980 And they set it up so that it is an accusation that simply cannot be disproven.

00:12:10.320 Because any evidence that would seem to indicate otherwise, they immediately discard as invalid,

00:12:18.280 without explaining why it is invalid.

00:12:20.160 So they'll say that America is institutionally racist. 0.93

00:12:22.720 Evidence against that view would seem to be we had a black president. 0.95

00:12:26.160 They say, no, that doesn't count.

00:12:27.480 I don't know why, it just doesn't count.

00:12:28.580 But it's a similar thing to if, you know, it's a sort of classic faux pas that if you're accused of racism,

00:12:37.540 you're not allowed to point out that you have close friends who are black.

00:12:41.840 That's it.

00:12:42.940 What we're told is that actually that makes you even more racist if you use that as evidence that you're not racist.

00:12:48.200 If you try to say, oh, well, I can't be racist.

00:12:49.780 I have black friends.

00:12:50.820 That's a, well, you're even, that's even more.

00:12:53.240 Well, hold on a second.

00:12:54.680 Isn't that, in fact, evidence that someone isn't racist?

00:12:57.120 If they really, now, if they're claiming they have black friends and they don't,

00:12:59.620 then obviously it's not evidence of anything.

00:13:01.360 But if they really do have black friends, isn't that evidence that, I mean,

00:13:06.320 it's at least an indication that they probably aren't racist.

00:13:11.980 Because if you're racist against a particular race, you're not going to be friends with people in that race.

00:13:17.140 It just seems like that's part of the whole racism thing.

00:13:19.460 I don't know.

00:13:23.940 To me, it seems like a good, like a solid piece of evidence in somebody's favor.

00:13:28.740 But, you know, that's not evidence.

00:13:30.320 Because there can, there's just no, if you are accused of being racist,

00:13:34.700 you're not allowed to present any evidence to clear you of the charge. 0.51

00:13:38.420 You're just racist. 0.96

00:13:39.240 That's all. 0.97

00:13:40.220 Doesn't matter.

00:13:40.640 You have black friends. 0.92

00:13:41.280 Doesn't matter. 1.00

00:13:41.680 You can be married to a black person. 0.99

00:13:43.360 You have black family members. 0.99

00:13:45.480 Doesn't matter. 1.00

00:13:46.180 You're racist.

00:13:46.780 Doesn't matter.

00:13:47.180 Whatever you say, doesn't matter. 0.98

00:13:48.880 You're still racist. 0.96

00:13:52.540 So, okay. 0.98

00:13:55.520 There's that.

00:13:56.560 Last question.

00:13:57.660 Is it true that our founders were racist?

00:14:02.980 Is it true that they supported slavery?

00:14:05.920 Is it true that they were bigots and sexist by our modern standards?

00:14:10.140 Well, the answer to those questions, finally, is yes.

00:14:13.080 Okay, that is true.

00:14:14.400 That is all certainly true.

00:14:15.640 But, and don't take this the wrong way, but what's your point?

00:14:24.940 See, this is why this conversation, if your point is simply to observe that fact and say,

00:14:31.600 well, that's wrong.

00:14:32.700 They should have been racist.

00:14:35.320 Okay.

00:14:36.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:14:37.120 They shouldn't have been.

00:14:37.960 But this conversation is so pointless and fruitless, this sort of moral relitigation of the past,

00:14:46.640 where we go back and we observe the sins and foibles of our ancestors.

00:14:51.600 I think that probably regardless, that would be a fruitless endeavor, a pointless endeavor.

00:14:56.620 I'm not really sure what the point could possibly be.

00:14:59.780 But it's even more fruitless and pointless because we are so determined to relitigate the past through a very narrow lens.

00:15:09.060 A lens that pretends that these white racists existed in a vacuum, a lens that looks not at the historical context, 0.68

00:15:19.740 not at the whole picture, but just focuses in on white people and pretends that there was something unique and especially terrible about their racism.

00:15:31.200 But if we were to widen the scope a bit, we would see that everyone, everywhere in the world, in every country, 0.94

00:15:42.680 was a racist and a sexist by our standards today.

00:15:45.840 If you go back 200 years or earlier, so any time up to 200 years ago, 0.97

00:15:53.100 you will find that every country on the planet is filled with tribalistic bigots by our standards.

00:15:59.400 Some countries still are.

00:16:02.920 Now, does that excuse bigotry?

00:16:09.300 Does that fact excuse the individual bigotry of any particular person who lived back then?

00:16:15.120 No, it doesn't excuse it.

00:16:18.460 Does it...

00:16:19.400 I'm blanking on the word that I want here.

00:16:26.620 Mitigate. There we go.

00:16:27.420 Does it mitigate, to some extent, their own personal moral guilt for being racist?

00:16:34.720 Yes, it does.

00:16:36.440 And this is a concept I think people struggle with.

00:16:38.800 There's a difference between the objective moral quality of something

00:16:46.600 and the moral guilt of the person who engages in that activity or has that thought or whatever it is.

00:16:54.420 So racism has always been wrong all throughout history.

00:16:58.660 It's always been just as wrong as it is now.

00:17:00.460 It's just wrong, period, right?

00:17:03.700 However, a racist 200 years ago or 500 years ago probably does not have the same moral guilt for that racism as a racist today.

00:17:13.740 And the reason is that, yeah, it's a taken for granted.

00:17:19.020 Now, we may look at it today and we say, well, it should be obvious to you that you shouldn't be racist.

00:17:23.840 That should be obvious.

00:17:24.940 It's obvious to us.

00:17:27.380 Well, maybe it should have been, but it wasn't.

00:17:29.060 It's very clear that for thousands of years of human history, it was not obvious that racism was wrong because almost everybody was.

00:17:37.300 And for a long time, it wasn't even questioned.

00:17:39.300 And the idea that all people in the world are equal, no matter what they look like, no matter what language they speak, that is a very modern concept.

00:17:47.040 That just didn't occur to people for thousands of years.

00:17:49.580 It just didn't occur to them.

00:17:51.040 So we could say, oh, I should have, but it didn't.

00:17:54.720 It just didn't to anybody. 0.98

00:17:57.580 And so we are left with the choice between condemning everybody in history, pretty much, as just utterly bigoted, horrible, worthless scumbags, or we can start to look at them in historical context, understand that they had some serious blind spots, try to understand those blind spots, why they had those blind spots. 0.97

00:18:21.040 Um, and, um, and kind of leave it there. 0.98

00:18:24.760 And then we can try to, you know, rather than staying focused on that, we could say, well, what are our blinds?

00:18:29.960 It seems though, as though people in every era have moral blind spots, just immoral things that they take for granted.

00:18:40.480 We know for our ancestors, that moral blind spot was racism and for a long time slavery too.

00:18:47.300 Well, maybe we should look and think, well, what are our blind spots?

00:18:50.140 Do we really have none?

00:18:51.340 Or is it possible that there are things that we take for granted that are actually horrible?

00:18:57.260 I think maybe that would be a more, um, worthwhile endeavor.

00:19:04.860 All right.

00:19:05.700 Uh, speaking of racism or alleged racism, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez just essentially called Nancy Pelosi a racist. 1.00

00:19:13.640 And this is incredible.

00:19:15.140 She was interviewed by the Washington Post and, uh, this is what she said.

00:19:18.720 She said, um, talking about Nancy Pelosi and the comments that Nancy Pelosi has been making about her supposedly.

00:19:25.640 She said, when these comments first started, I kind of thought that she was keeping the progressive flank at more of an arm's distance in order to protect more moderate members, which I understood.

00:19:33.960 But the persistent singling out, it got to a point where it was just outright disrespectful, the explicit singling out of newly elected women of color. 1.00

00:19:43.720 She just accused Nancy Pelosi of singling out women of color. 1.00

00:19:51.220 Um, now, is there any evidence at all that Nancy Pelosi is singling out women of color? 0.96

00:19:56.760 Is there any reason to believe that Nancy Pelosi has an issue with AOC because of her color and not because of, uh, the fact of her harebrained policy ideas and her general attention seeking behavior? 0.94

00:20:07.640 Uh, no, obviously not.

00:20:09.880 And I understand the conservatives who laugh about this and say, Hey, let them eat their own. 0.89

00:20:13.960 And they're even conservatives that kind of encourage it and try to, Oh yeah, Nancy Pelosi, she is a racist. 1.00

00:20:19.620 You're right about that.

00:20:20.460 Try to try to keep the internal strife going.

00:20:22.720 I understand the strategy there. 0.97

00:20:24.440 It's, it's a smart strategy, but I just, I hate this race baiting garbage so much that, um, I have to take Nancy Pelosi side. 0.97

00:20:34.700 The race baiting thing, I, I really just despise it. 0.97

00:20:41.380 Um, because, you know, there, there are enough real problems in the world and there's enough real bigotry still.

00:20:49.520 I, I, what we were talking about a few minutes ago, I don't mean to suggest there's no bigotry left in the world.

00:20:53.760 There's plenty of, plenty of it still left, especially in other countries.

00:20:57.120 Um, uh, where, you know, people who are in ethnic minorities can be killed and stoned to death and so on. 0.99

00:21:05.760 Um, but so there's, there's so much of it really out there that to try to invent it for your own, um, purposes, uh, to try to exploit it.

00:21:19.180 You're exploiting racism.

00:21:23.660 And I, I, I just detest that so much.

00:21:25.860 I find it so morally abominable.

00:21:29.260 Um, these people who have made racism into a game, into a tool for them to use into a hammer, they can beat over the heads of their opponents. 0.93

00:21:40.240 And, and do it, you know, sort of indiscriminately or just, I mean, with, with AOC, it's just anyone that opposes her is a racist and a sexist. 0.90

00:21:49.240 It doesn't matter who, even if it's Nancy Pelosi, it's a racism.

00:21:52.580 It's like, it doesn't matter whatever it is. 0.98

00:21:53.900 And it's also, it's so intellectually cowardly.

00:21:57.540 There's so much intellectual cowardice in Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. 1.00

00:22:02.740 She is such a coward. 0.99

00:22:04.980 She refuses to engage with anyone in an honest way. 1.00

00:22:09.460 She refuses to engage any argument, honestly. 0.99

00:22:15.040 Instead, it's just, if you oppose her, you're a sexist and racist, period. 0.98

00:22:19.260 I really can't stand that. 0.97

00:22:20.740 So, yeah, you know what?

00:22:21.580 I actually have to take Nancy Pelosi's side in this, which is a very bizarre sensation, and I don't like it.

00:22:29.040 Um, okay, let's see.

00:22:31.000 A couple other things.

00:22:31.800 Are, let's see.

00:22:32.880 Are you ready to cringe?

00:22:33.700 I hope you're ready to cringe, because I have a very cringey thing to show you.

00:22:36.800 Um, watch this video.

00:22:37.620 Okay, so that's Megan Rapinoe, or Rapinoe. 0.66

00:22:51.700 I, I, I actually, I, I think I've been saying her name wrong this whole time.

00:22:55.400 Well, I'd never heard of her until, you know, a few weeks ago.

00:22:57.960 Um, and now I find her to be one of the most insufferable people on the planet. 1.00

00:23:01.980 Because of videos like that, holding the trophies, like, I deserve this.

00:23:07.240 She even said it in an annoying, annoying way.

00:23:09.700 I mean, just the statement itself, I deserve this, is annoying.

00:23:12.960 But she even said it in a way that's extra annoying.

00:23:15.560 Um, now, a lot of people have said that the criticism of Rapinoe, Rapinoe, Rapinoe, is

00:23:21.540 it Rapinoe?

00:23:22.040 I think it's Rapinoe.

00:23:22.900 Is, um, the criticism is unfair, and, you know, male, male athletes never get criticized

00:23:27.780 this way, and so on.

00:23:28.760 Well, first of all, male athletes get criticized all the time.

00:23:31.560 It's a very common occurrence.

00:23:33.400 They're constantly criticized, especially male athletes who are perceived, whether rightly

00:23:39.120 or wrongly, for, as being egotistical, attention-seeking, um, sorts of people.

00:23:45.080 Those kinds of athletes, those sorts of people in general, no matter what they do for a living,

00:23:48.920 are going to be criticized, traditionally.

00:23:52.820 So, that's the first thing.

00:23:54.160 Second, male athletes don't usually do some of the stuff that Rapinoe is out there doing.

00:24:01.820 Um, like hoisting the trophy that you just won as a team and shouting, I deserve this.

00:24:07.220 I mean, most male athletes, um, have the concept of teamwork just hammered into their heads

00:24:13.780 from a very young age, so almost reflexively, when they're interviewed or when they achieve

00:24:20.440 something, they're, they're almost always going to bring it back to the team.

00:24:23.560 Eh, it's not about me, it's about the team, whatever's good for the team, the team did

00:24:26.260 this, the team did that, which is good, it's good, it's a good thing, it's, that's one of

00:24:29.820 the great things about team sports for kids, is that it, it, it, it has this humbling

00:24:34.220 effect. Um, so if Tom Brady ever hoisted up the Lombardi trophy and shouted, I deserve

00:24:42.860 this, uh, he would be roasted for that by everyone and there would be no one defending

00:24:48.760 it. But see, the thing is Tom Brady, even though I think he is a narcissist, uh, and

00:24:54.200 maybe with good reason, considering he's the greatest quarterback in the history of the

00:24:57.180 league and he has, and he's won, uh, you know, approximately 65 super bowls. But if

00:25:02.340 he were to ever hoist the Lombardi trophy and say, I deserve this, he would be roasted

00:25:05.860 by everyone, rightfully so. Uh, but he wouldn't do that. Whether or not he would like to do

00:25:13.620 that or he has those thoughts, I don't know, but he would never actually do that. When he

00:25:18.420 hoist the Lombardi trophy, which he's done several times, uh, he's always about the team.

00:25:22.420 He's talking about the team. But again, if any male athlete were ever to do something

00:25:27.480 like that, they would be criticized by everyone. In fact, it's, oh, this is where female athletes 1.00

00:25:31.920 have the privilege because a female athlete does that. And yeah, she's going to be criticized 1.00

00:25:35.980 by some people like myself who are consistent because I would criticize anyone who did that

00:25:40.880 male or female. But then she's also going to have a chorus of defenders that the male athlete 1.00

00:25:46.160 won't have for the male athlete. No one's going to defend that. Everyone's going to say,

00:25:50.200 oh, come on, man. That's disgusting. It wasn't just you. It was your team. Okay. What do 0.76

00:25:54.440 you mean? You deserve this? Your team deserves it. What is this? I stuff. There is no I in

00:25:59.640 team, right? But there is a me, right? Okay. Um, that's what would happen. But with female 1.00

00:26:07.000 athletes, there's going to be that chorus, the feminists who'd say, oh, in fact, I saw that 1.00

00:26:11.100 video online yesterday, um, with a caption from someone saying, I forget what they, the exact

00:26:19.200 words they use, but they said, uh, this is empowering. It's a, um, you know, it's a basically

00:26:27.440 making it about empowerment. I don't remember the exact words they use, but they were saying

00:26:30.720 that this is empowering for women. It's a declaration of, uh, female strength and so on. 0.67

00:26:38.200 Um, and that's just, again, that's, that is not something you would ever hear for a male

00:26:44.720 athlete. If a male athlete acts like an insufferable blowhard, narcissistic, attention 0.96

00:26:52.120 seeking jerk, nobody is going to say, oh, it's male empowerment. No one is going to say 1.00

00:26:58.340 that. It's, it's only women who can partially get away with being jerks, um, on the basis of 1.00

00:27:04.880 it's female empowerment. They're the only women are the only one. I'm sorry. If you're a woman, 1.00

00:27:09.020 you're the only one who could potentially dress up your jerky behavior as empowerment. Men can't 0.72

00:27:14.020 do that. They're not going to get away with it, nor should they. Meanwhile, though, as a nice

00:27:19.940 palate cleanser, um, so that was kind of sports at its worst and let's look at it at its best.

00:27:28.780 Um, this is a video of an unidentified hockey coach talking to his players and his message

00:27:34.140 while colorful is I think truly good and empowering. Watch this.

00:27:40.740 Hey guys, listen up for a second. First day of camp. Something really important. Okay. We're not

00:27:48.380 women's soccer. We're not the NFL. If there's anybody here, it's going to be disrespectful to 1.00

00:27:56.280 either the American or the Canadian national anthem, grab your gear and get the out now.

00:28:01.400 Cause you'll never see the ice in this arena. Um, we don't have that problem in hockey. We're

00:28:07.720 better than that, but there was no sense in wasting anybody's time if that was going to happen.

00:28:12.260 I don't believe it would happen here. Um, we're the, we're the most patriotic sport that they have

00:28:17.540 out there. So just keep that in mind. Thank you. So that's, that's good stuff. Um, and that is,

00:28:22.780 I mean, that reminds me of, I didn't play hockey, but that reminds me of some of the coaches I had

00:28:26.680 growing up. Um, just, I mean, everything, the way he looks, the way he speaks, the cussing and

00:28:34.120 everything. It's just, it's part of the coach. It's part of the male coach thing. And, um, and the

00:28:40.300 message, which is, Hey, you know, this isn't about you. Don't go out there, uh, trying to disrespect

00:28:45.380 the country, trying to make it about yourself. It's we're not doing that here. Just that kind of

00:28:50.040 really frank getting down to it. Um, if you don't like it, get the F out that kind of stuff.

00:28:55.320 I really think that the boys, especially, especially teenage boys, um, need

00:29:02.580 a voice like that in their life. And hopefully they have it at home. Hopefully they have a father

00:29:10.840 who's, you know, even if he doesn't drop the F bomb, he's still going to say, still going to have

00:29:14.500 a message similar to that. Like, Hey, you know, you're not doing that here. Cut it out. Cut out the

00:29:18.600 crap. It's not happening here. You need, I think children need it. Boys especially need 1.00

00:29:24.720 that. Um, but unfortunately there are a lot of boys growing up in this country who don't

00:29:29.280 have that, who don't have that kind of, um, disciplined, take no crap, male voice and guidance

00:29:39.780 in their home. And that's where sports even more become important. And that's why I think

00:29:46.560 coaches do such an important thing. Um, because they can, they provide something to a lot of

00:29:52.640 these boys that they aren't getting anywhere else and that they need. I mean, you just,

00:29:56.900 you need someone in your life as a kid to say, cut it out. Um, so I think that was, that was great.

00:30:04.680 Good stuff. Well done coach. Well done. I wanted to talk about one other thing here before we get

00:30:10.580 to emails. Yeah, I guess we'll talk about this. Um, it would be easier to discuss if I played the

00:30:19.520 video for you, but I'm not going to do that because it would seem hypocritical for me to play

00:30:23.800 it. So I'll just describe it. There's a vibe. Maybe you've seen it. There's a viral video,

00:30:28.900 which went viral, I think yesterday, millions of views showing a man in a bagel shop. I think

00:30:34.560 in New York, I'm not sure where, um, probably New York having a complete meltdown. There's no

00:30:39.440 context provided. The video cuts on and he's screaming at pretty much everyone in the

00:30:43.880 establishment, customers, employees. Um, and he's screaming, he screams at some women in the store

00:30:50.620 at one point and starts talking about all the women on dating sites who make fun of him and reject

00:30:55.180 him. Um, and then he yells at some guys who are standing there. One of the guys proceeds to

00:30:59.920 essentially tackle the guy, knock him on his butt. Um, and then I think after that, in a second video, 0.95

00:31:05.520 he's screaming at the employees. He's still talking about women on the dating sites who reject him.

00:31:10.880 Um, and the guy's very short, which is important context to understand the video. He's a very short,

00:31:15.360 looks like he's, I don't know, five foot two or something. He's very short guy. Um, very short for a

00:31:20.560 grown man. And he says that women on the dating sites make fun of him for being short.

00:31:25.180 Uh, and anyway, he's, he's having a total meltdown breakdown, um, acting like a jerk to 0.99

00:31:31.100 everybody in the store. Well, this was secretly filmed of course, and put online. And now the guy 0.98

00:31:37.040 has been humiliated across the country, um, along with being humiliated at the store when he was

00:31:42.940 humiliating himself. Millions of people now have taken part in the public shaming and many have left

00:31:48.360 comments adding additional scorn and mockery and talking about how short he is and, and, and,

00:31:53.820 and everything else. Now, first of all, obviously his behavior is unacceptable. If you saw the video,

00:32:01.740 you know, I mean, it's unacceptable behavior, wrong, atrocious behavior. Um, he deserved to get

00:32:07.000 his butt kicked in the moment. I believe he had that coming. Uh, nothing can, can justify the way 1.00

00:32:12.620 he was acting. And if you start mouthing off to the wrong person in public, you might get knocked on

00:32:17.300 your butt. And I am a, I'm an advocate of that. I'm fine with that. I mean, I think that's the way 0.99

00:32:21.800 it should work in society. They're just, you know, sometimes it's like, if you can't go around just

00:32:27.680 screaming at anyone, acting like a jerk to anyone you want, if you choose the wrong person, he's going 1.00

00:32:32.200 to knock you on your, on your butt. All right. But here's my thing. Did this incident really need 1.00

00:32:40.040 to be broadcast to the entire world? Did his mental breakdown need to become an episode of

00:32:46.360 reality TV for us all to watch and gawk at? Was the butt kicking in the moment enough, or did he

00:32:52.540 really need massive public shaming on top of it? Is the public shaming proportionate to the infraction?

00:33:01.400 When I watched this video, honestly, I, my first reaction was, I felt bad for the guy. I'm not saying

00:33:06.920 that this is because I'm so compassionate and I'm so much better than you. If you watched it and

00:33:10.820 laughed, look, I've watched videos like that plenty of times in the past and probably laughed and even

00:33:16.980 shared it myself and taken part in the gawking festival. Um, but on, I'm trying to get away from

00:33:26.200 that. I think we should all try to get away from that. And when it came to this video, my first reaction

00:33:29.920 was, I just felt bad for the guy. Uh, even though there's no excuse for his behavior, even though he was

00:33:35.860 acting like a jerk, it seemed obvious to me that this was, is a lonely, sad, broken man. Um, for him 0.99

00:33:45.620 to be shouting about being rejected on dating sites that may seem funny to us, but it seems clear that,

00:33:51.480 yeah, I mean, this is a guy who's, I mean, in his, I don't know, forties or fifties still alone,

00:33:56.080 uh, probably has been rejected by women his whole life because he's very short. It is difficult for

00:34:00.860 guys who are really short sometimes to find a, you know, to find a woman. Women, a lot of times

00:34:05.860 don't want to be with a guy that's a lot shorter than them. You know, if you, if you don't suffer

00:34:10.620 from that problem and I, you know, I don't, I'm six foot, I say six foot one. That's what I say.

00:34:16.520 That's my, that's unofficial, unofficially six foot one, I think really six foot, but anyway,

00:34:20.700 so I don't, I, you know, I don't have that. That's not a particular problem that I have,

00:34:23.680 but, um, it is a, you know, if it can be an issue for some guys and if it leads to you being alone

00:34:30.360 for 40 years, it's a pretty serious freaking issue. Right. Um, and so it seems like this guy

00:34:37.180 was at the end of his rope, the rope snapped and he essentially had a psychotic breakdown.

00:34:42.700 Um, we have no idea what prompted it or what led to it. And that's another problem I have with these,

00:34:46.560 with these out of context videos, again, not that any context could make that behavior, right,

00:34:51.220 but we don't even know, like what, what were they, was someone in there needling this guy

00:34:56.720 and trying to get him rallied up? I don't know. We don't know. Maybe not. Maybe he just ran in

00:35:01.680 and started shouting for no reason. We have no idea that that part isn't shown either way. Uh,

00:35:06.980 he's having a breakdown seems to me a breakdown partially from a life of disappointment and,

00:35:15.280 and loneliness it seems. Um, so is it really funny? I mean, can we not, should we be laughing

00:35:25.620 at that? I just, should we be laughing at broken, troubled people? What does that say about us?

00:35:32.560 If you say, Oh yeah, it's hilarious. Well, what does that say about you though?

00:35:37.180 And you think it says anything good about you?

00:35:38.680 This is one of the reasons why you remember that video, um, of the, uh, quote unquote, trans,

00:35:46.640 the quote unquote, trans woman in the, I think it was a GameStop, really a biological man in the

00:35:53.340 GameStop shouting, uh, you know, because he was addressed as, as, uh, sir. And he's saying,

00:35:58.480 you know, call me ma'am. I'm sure you've seen that video or at least heard about it. Now I,

00:36:03.360 I believe, uh, I never played that video on this show. And the reason I didn't play it is because

00:36:10.180 it's a similar sort of thing. Now, you know, how I feel about the transgender thing. I, you know,

00:36:13.740 I, I think that if you're a man, you're a man. So this guy's a man period. Uh, but it's pretty

00:36:20.780 clear to me that this was a very troubled person who was having a breakdown in public, a meltdown.

00:36:28.420 Um, and it's not funny to me. I don't really think that's funny. And this is real life. This

00:36:34.160 is a real troubled person having a meltdown, living a life that clearly is filled with misery and

00:36:41.400 despair for them and confusion. I don't know. I don't, I guess, I, I guess I just don't see the

00:36:46.940 humor, honestly, in it. Um, I have in the past, as I said, I'm not, this is not a holier than now. I

00:36:53.460 have in the past seen the humor in some of these kinds of things. I think we all have, but what I'm

00:36:57.820 saying is maybe we should all together try to pull back from this and realize that what we're

00:37:04.500 seeing on the internet, these are real people. This is not, this isn't actually reality TV.

00:37:09.300 Reality TV is fake. These are most of the time. These are actually just actors pretending. So you

00:37:13.720 want to laugh at them. Fine. Go ahead. Um, I mean, that's what they're there for. And they,

00:37:17.700 they signed up for it literally. Um, and they enjoy obviously being spectacles, but these people

00:37:25.000 that just end up their viral videos and everything, you know, they, they, even if they're having

00:37:29.980 meltdowns in public, they weren't looking to be celebrities or be stars. They weren't looking

00:37:34.620 for their 50 minutes of fame. And, um, I, I always think what if, and I'm sure this has already

00:37:41.800 happened and we wouldn't necessarily know about it, but one of these days, what if we find out

00:37:47.460 one of these days that one of these people who had their meltdown filmed for our amusement

00:37:53.380 then proceeded to kill themselves? Is it, is it far-fetched to think that that could happen

00:37:59.440 and maybe has happened? Not at all. I mean, you're, if someone who's already troubled, already,

00:38:05.200 uh, feeling, you know, persecuted, whether rightly or wrongly, and then you add on top of that,

00:38:11.620 the scorn and mockery of millions of people, literally. Now, if you've never experienced

00:38:19.700 scorn and mockery from millions of people, even if it is just on the internet, that doesn't matter.

00:38:24.560 These are still people that are saying this about you. If you've never experienced that level of

00:38:28.820 mockery and scorn, maybe it's hard to understand, but it's a very overwhelming thing, even for a,

00:38:32.480 even for a, uh, a mentally stable person. But if you're unstable, if you're having an episode of

00:38:38.680 some kind, and then you add on top of, I mean, it's not hard to see how we could, someone could

00:38:43.380 be driven to suicide. Are we going to say then that it was still worth it for the laugh? Or,

00:38:48.860 ah, he had to come into a, you know, and I'm not, look, I'm not taking an issue in principle with

00:38:55.860 public shaming. I, I have, I'm, I have, I'm on the record as an advocate of public shaming

00:39:00.660 in principle, but that doesn't mean that every person is, should be public, publicly shamed.

00:39:06.920 I'm just saying that public shaming can be inappropriate response. Sometimes I don't

00:39:13.040 think that public shaming, um, of someone who has a mental breakdown for the purposes of our

00:39:18.900 amusement, you know, if it's public shaming so that we can amuse ourselves at the expense of someone

00:39:24.380 who's troubled and having a breakdown, that's bad public shaming. That is not good. Now, if we're

00:39:29.140 talking about, remember that video a few months ago of the grown of the man who, uh, who kicked an

00:39:35.120 elderly woman in the face while she was sitting on the subway and that video went out there and I,

00:39:40.760 I put it on the show. And, uh, and that's the fact that the video and viral is part of the reason why

00:39:45.500 this guy eventually was apprehended. Now that's good public shaming. Okay. That's someone who's

00:39:49.280 dangerous, who committed a violent crime, who did something that is so horrifically horrible,

00:39:55.800 uh, that, that it just, the punishment fits the crime. So it should be public shaming,

00:40:01.320 get this guy's face out there everywhere. So everyone knows that this guy's an elderly abusing 0.99

00:40:05.940 scumbag and then put them in jail. I think that's totally, uh, the punishment fits the crime there. 0.99

00:40:12.640 But in this case, what's the, the crime is the guy was a jerk at a bagel shop. 0.99

00:40:17.320 Um, the punishment of massive public shaming. I don't think it fits. 0.99

00:40:26.840 Uh, all right, let's go to very quickly. We'll get to a couple of emails here. This is from,

00:40:33.060 uh, uh, Matt wall show at gmail.com is the email address. This is from Joe says, hello, Matt. Um,

00:40:40.440 when you are dictator of the universe, which temperature will you mandate every building to

00:40:44.780 be set at give a winter temp and a summer temp. I will abide by these temps in preparation for

00:40:49.400 your pending rule. Also, I'm so glad that feminists have brought this subject up because it needs to 1.00

00:40:53.960 be addressed. There are many men out there who are victims of females and their affinity to warm

00:40:57.620 temperatures. I am a victim, Matt. And now I must become an S and SJW for the victims of temperature

00:41:03.360 abuse. I temperature abuse. I like that. I, you know, I'm surprised feminists haven't come up with 1.00

00:41:07.960 that term. Maybe they have. I am a socialist and only one subject I must admit that subject is room

00:41:12.220 temperature. The room, the woman, the women who have somehow tricked men into forfeiting the room 0.89

00:41:16.340 temperature need to be forced by the government to distribute a few degrees to the fellows. Maybe

00:41:20.860 somewhere in the mid seventies will be enough for the fellows to survive the summer. We live in Arizona.

00:41:25.060 My wife prefers 78 to 80 degrees. It's excruciating. Please help. Uh, your wife prefers it to be 70

00:41:34.440 inside. Look, uh, Joe, I would never advocate divorce, but no, I'm kidding. Of course it's a joke. Um,

00:41:42.200 all right. But, but your wife needs to, I mean, it's 80 degrees. That's, that's crazy. This, I mean, 1.00

00:41:48.620 maybe public shaming, maybe you should probably shame your wife for this one. This one does, 1.00

00:41:52.980 this, this punishment does fit the crime. 80 degrees inside is crazy. I mean, we are,

00:41:58.660 we're civilized people here. Okay. We live in modern civilization. You don't live, you don't need

00:42:03.600 to live in 80 degree temperatures inside. You want 80 degrees inside, go to a sauna. Okay. Your living

00:42:09.780 room is not supposed to be a sauna. Joe's wife, you're going to kill this man. He's going to 1.00

00:42:17.320 literally melt into a puddle. How dare you? Uh, as for the appropriate temperature, well,

00:42:25.500 I'm glad you asked that question. Of course, I do have a very specific, um, demands as far as that

00:42:30.760 goes. So the appropriate temperature inside in the summer is 68 degrees period. That's the appropriate

00:42:37.560 time. You want to go down to 66 or 67. I will allow it. Uh, you want to go up to 70. I might allow

00:42:44.960 it maybe if you have a lot of fans in there, but 68 is the ideal. That's where it should be set. 68,

00:42:50.880 uh, as for the summer, I mean, the winter inside, you know, 70 to 71, I wouldn't go above that.

00:42:58.940 Um, so really you're, you're in that 68 to 70 range, regardless. That's just what temperature

00:43:03.360 should be inside all the time, but thanks for the email. Um, this is from James says,

00:43:11.820 hi, Matt. I am a fourth year medical student in the middle of my psychiatry clerkship. And I just

00:43:16.480 wanted to hop in briefly on the discussion about psychiatric disorders. You asked why people get

00:43:20.880 upset when you question the legitimacy and medical significance of psychiatric disorders.

00:43:24.800 The reason is because psychiatry is the only field of medicine where we face constant accusations

00:43:29.000 of inappropriate medicalization because of disease symptoms that occur on a continuum

00:43:33.060 of normal experience. A perfect example of this is when people resist viewing psychiatric conditions

00:43:39.020 as disabling disorders, because we all feel anxious sometimes, and we all get distracted.

00:43:44.920 Many common nine psychiatric conditions, such as type two diabetes, asthma, hypertension,

00:43:51.340 um, and obesity exist on a spectrum of normality. And every field uses somewhat arbitrary guidelines

00:43:57.960 to distinguish between normal and abnormal. The reason we use a hemoglobin A1c level of 6.5%

00:44:03.960 to diagnose type two diabetes is simply because the American Diabetes Association decided that 6.5%

00:44:09.660 is the point where it's severe enough to call it, to call a disease. Up until recently, hypertension

00:44:14.840 was defined as a blood pressure greater than, uh, 140 over 90. Two years ago, the American Heart

00:44:21.420 Association changed their guidelines and now anything higher than 130 over 80 is called hypertension.

00:44:25.560 These kinds of conditions that exist on spectra are increasingly becoming the norm across all of

00:44:31.040 medicine as a result of Western lifestyles leading to chronic disease. And yet the lay press constantly

00:44:36.160 paints continuum disorders as something unique to psychiatry. We have a growing body of research

00:44:41.120 clearly delineating ADHD and major depression as distinct syndromes, and the American Psychiatric

00:44:46.540 Association establishes thresholds for diseases just like every other professional organization does.

00:44:50.860 I've never heard any conservative medical traditionalist question whether or not type

00:44:54.600 two diabetes is a real disease. I never hear any anti-medicine groups ask if doctors are over

00:45:00.040 diagnosing hypertension so that the pharmaceutical industry can make money putting everyone on ACE

00:45:05.140 inhibitors. This kind of skepticism and conspiracism seems to be almost exclusively reserved for the

00:45:12.780 fields of psychiatry. And it gets very tiresome. Thanks for reading. Okay. Uh, I wish I'd save that email

00:45:18.060 for tomorrow because I don't have a lot of time and there's a lot there to address. Um, maybe I'll get

00:45:22.880 back to it tomorrow, but I will say, first of all, just for the record, I think that, uh, all fields of

00:45:28.400 medicine are subject to this criticism of over-diagnosis, over-prescribing. And I think for a good reason,

00:45:34.580 um, you know, I, I, I think that, uh, many things are over-diagnosed and, and there is a problem with people

00:45:41.880 being put on prescription drugs too readily. And that's why we have a nation of prescription drug

00:45:48.180 addicts. I mean, prescription drug addiction is a huge problem in this country, as I'm sure you're

00:45:51.360 aware. And, um, many of those drugs are, you know, psychiatric drugs, but not all of them. I mean,

00:45:57.120 think about painkillers now the medical community. Why has, I talked about this on the show. I think

00:46:01.520 that I, you know, I tore my Achilles, go to the doctor with a torn Achilles. My calf muscle feels like

00:46:07.580 it's on fire. It's the most painful thing I've ever experienced. Um, and, uh, and at, at no point

00:46:13.500 while I had the torn Achilles was I ever prescribed painkillers. They said, just take Tylenol. I was

00:46:17.940 given, um, prescription narcotics for, you know, like five days worth after my surgery, only used it

00:46:23.160 for two days because I really don't like that stuff. Point is, um, why were they being so tight-fisted

00:46:28.600 with the prescription narcotics? And that's because it had become a huge problem with people getting

00:46:34.080 addicted to this stuff. The medical community had come under fire for it, rightly so. And so they

00:46:38.400 pulled back. So your claim that this is exclusive to psychiatry, I think is not true. Second thing,

00:46:44.180 um, you know, ADHD, let's just focus on that for a moment. You, uh, I don't think you've really

00:46:53.840 addressed my point on just ADHD for a second here. My point is, yeah, ADHD exists. That is people who

00:47:05.980 have struggled, struggled to paying attention and are hyperactive. Now I think the term attention

00:47:12.100 deficit is kind of strange because that, that seems to suggest that there is some ideal amount

00:47:19.820 of attention that you're supposed to be able to give. And if you can't give that amount, then you have a,

00:47:23.820 deficiency in attention. It's just a, to talk about a deficiency in attention is a very weird concept

00:47:29.920 to me. Um, and again, it is arbitrary, it seems, but regardless, okay, not to split hairs. There are

00:47:36.080 obviously people who struggle to pay attention, raise my hand for that, um, and struggle to sit still,

00:47:43.260 raise my hand for that one and struggle to, you know, keep their thoughts on one track and their thoughts

00:47:47.920 tend to go in a million directions at once. I raised my hand for that too. So I'm, I'm guilty on all three

00:47:51.800 accounts. My point is that maybe that's just how some people are. Maybe that's just a personality

00:48:04.140 type. Maybe that is simply a type of person. Maybe that is a way of being who is to say that it's a

00:48:12.180 disorder. Because when you say it's a disorder, what you're saying is people shouldn't be that way.

00:48:18.320 And so my question to you as the medical student is how do you know people shouldn't be that way?

00:48:26.480 Especially when we know that if you, if you have quote ADHD, yeah, it's difficult in school. It's

00:48:32.680 different. It's difficult if you work at a cubicle and you sit at an office desk for eight to nine

00:48:37.640 hours a day. But if you do other things, if you have a creative job, like, like I do, if you work

00:48:44.240 outside, if you're more hands-on, then it becomes a, actually a benefit. It's, it's a, it's an asset

00:48:51.000 for me with the job that I do. I've got to think of, you know, a million different topics a day and

00:48:55.640 I'm writing, I'm doing the show and I'm, you know, constantly in my head for me to have this condition

00:49:03.940 while it made me feel totally deficient and crazy when I was in public school. Now it makes me feel

00:49:09.960 like, okay, I need to be this way in order to do this. Um, it may seem like an easy job in some

00:49:15.960 ways it is, some, some, some ways it's not even a job at all, but actually to think of, you know,

00:49:21.500 to come up with commentary for several different topics every single day and then deliver it in

00:49:26.400 two different forms, writing and speaking, you know, there are some, there are some challenges

00:49:30.660 with that. Okay. Um, and so I find that having my mind work the way it does, while again, it made

00:49:37.800 it very difficult in math class. It actually works well here. So given that fact, my question again

00:49:45.780 to you is who are you to say it's a disorder? Who are you to say I'm not supposed to be this way?

00:49:51.600 Maybe this is just how I am. I think with physical diseases, it's a little bit easier to say, well,

00:49:58.140 yeah, people aren't supposed to be that way with something like diabetes, as you know, um, a diabetic,

00:50:03.140 if they don't get that treated, they could die. So that's pretty good indication that you're not

00:50:07.940 supposed to be that way. And so you need to get that treated. ADHD is not going to kill you.

00:50:15.020 It's not going to make your brain deteriorate. It's not going to give you cancer.

00:50:20.300 You know, it won't. It's just, it just makes, it makes it hard in some contexts, but then it also

00:50:28.220 helps in other contexts. So for the third time, and really for the millionth time, I say, maybe this

00:50:34.580 is just how I am. Maybe this is a valid personality type. That's, that is my assertion. And I think you

00:50:45.540 need to come up with some kind of evidence that it is not a valid personality type, that it is in fact

00:50:52.420 an invalid, um, disordered, um, type that shouldn't exist. I think you're going to struggle to come up 1.00

00:51:02.880 with evidence for that and quoting the American psychiatric association. I don't think that's

00:51:10.000 really going to help much because this is actually in many ways, a philosophical question

00:51:17.500 because the underlying question is now there's nothing really philosophical about diabetes. I take

00:51:23.580 your point about it exists on a spectrum. Okay. Good point. But, um, it's not philosophical. I don't

00:51:29.220 think there's really any philosophical discussion about whether or not diabetes is a disease.

00:51:34.640 There is a philosophical discussion with something like ADHD because the philosophical question is

00:51:38.960 how should a person be? It's a very deeply philosophical question. Actually.

00:51:47.500 And when you say, well, a person shouldn't be like that, you are making a profoundly philosophical claim

00:51:55.980 that I happen to disagree with. All right. Um, and, uh, as I said yesterday, there are, you know,

00:52:04.840 there are other mental conditions like, uh, you know, schizophrenia where someone is hallucinating or,

00:52:10.520 or, or has no grip on reality. I think it's clear to me there that people shouldn't be that way.

00:52:15.540 Um, because that just, you, you, in that case, you, you cannot really function at all as a human

00:52:23.360 person at all in any context. Um, so, you know, there you have a clear good case. I think with ADHD,

00:52:32.100 it is not nearly so clear, but all right, we will leave it there. Thanks everybody for watching.

00:52:36.340 Godspeed.

00:52:50.760 President Trump hosts a social media summit at the White House today to combat big tech censorship.

00:52:55.800 Meanwhile, star Democrat Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calls Nancy Pelosi a racist.

00:53:01.980 We ask the important question, has politics ever been this fun? Check it out on the Michael Knowles show.

The Matt Walsh Show - July 11, 2019

Ep. 293 - Beto Says America Is A Racist Hellscape

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