Ep. 294 - Another False Allegation Falls Apart
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A former Trump staffer claims that she was the victim of battery when Trump, " forcibly kissed her." We re going to talk about that and what we can learn from this whole case. And a teen girl in Connecticut is standing up against the madness of allowing boys into girl sports.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, a former Trump staffer claims that she was the victim of battery
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when Trump, quote, forcibly kissed her. The video of the incident is out now, and it seems to
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completely vindicate Trump. We're going to talk about that and also what we can learn from this
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whole case. Also, I want to talk about a real example of true courage and female empowerment.
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A teenage girl in Connecticut is standing up against the madness of allowing boys into girl
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sports. This, as I said, is real courage. This is something feminists should be celebrating,
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but for the most part, they're not. We're going to talk about that today also on the Matt Wall Show.
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You know, I wouldn't normally air my domestic grievances on the show. I don't believe in,
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you know, getting into personal things and talking about things that happen at the home with the
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family. But I have to say that I got into a pretty heated argument last night in my house
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very emotional with my kids. And because they claimed that goldfish crackers are better than
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Cheez-Its. And so we got into a big debate about it because it's just an absurd claim, obviously.
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And the thing is, they had no facts. They had no evidence. They had no logic. They had done no
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research. And they were just making this claim. So I just demolished them in the debate. I annihilated
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them. I wasn't even close. And here's the moral of the story. When given the chance,
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you always have to own the libs. Okay. Owning the libs is a moral obligation, even when the libs are
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your own kids, even when the libs are six years old, which my kids are. And really all six-year-olds,
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six-year-olds are libs at the end of the day. They, you know, operate the same sort of, and they argue
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the same sort of way also. So anyway, I guess I, I thought about maybe spending the whole show
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talking about the Cheez-It versus goldfish question, but I think I'll save that for another
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day. Today, I want to begin with talking about President Trump being conclusively and absolutely
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vindicated against at least one of the accusations against him. And I think that there's, when we look
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at this situation, there's a lot we can learn about it. And so we're going to talk about that
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a former campaign aid for president Trump, Alva Johnson filed a lawsuit against Trump months ago,
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alleging that she was the victim of battery. That's how she puts it battery. She says she was
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forcibly kissed by the president during the campaign. And, uh, this incident has apparently
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supposedly traumatized her and haunted her and she can't stop thinking about it. In fact, let's,
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before I, we do have footage now of the alleged battery, you know, and you, so you can see it
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for yourself before we play that though. I want to go back a few months to Alva Johnson's first media
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interview, which you could probably already guess was on MSNBC. And, uh, she, she described this
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traumatic event. I want to play this for you. So you can see how she described it before she knew,
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presumably this is before she knew that there was actual video of the thing itself happening,
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uh, before she knew that here is her describing her, uh, the, the battery. Here it is.
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As he passed me, I looked at him and I said, no, you go and do a good job. Go kick ass because I've
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been away from my family for a long time. And so he stops, he grabs my hand and he starts looking at me.
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And then as he's looking at me, he's holding my hand. He said, I'm going to do a good job. I'm not
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going to let you down. I know you've been away from your family and I appreciate what you're
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doing. He's holding my hand, holding my hand. And then he starts coming towards me. And so he's
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still holding my hand. And then I just had like a lot of internal dialogue. I'm like, okay, is he
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going to hug me? You know, like, and then he keeps coming closer and I'm like, okay, is he gonna,
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is he gonna hug me? I'm like, Oh my God, I think he's going to kiss me. Cause he was coming
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directly for my face. I mean, this is what the bill of a baseball cap. And so he just starts
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getting closer. And then when I realized that he's going to kiss my lips, I turned my mouth
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and he kissed me. He caught me right in the corner of my mouth. And I was just,
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So keep in mind how she described that she was grabbed by the hand. Um, he stared at her,
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tried to kiss her on the lips. She turned desperately away, trying to evade his mouth
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as it came toward her. Um, and then the kiss landed on the corner of her mouth. She says
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that's how she described it. Here she is in the same interview, um, tearing up and getting very
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emotional as she continues to recount the trauma she suffered. The access Hollywood tape comes out,
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two things happen. The president says, uh, I just start kissing women. If I'm attracted to them,
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you can do anything and grab them by wherever. Um, and then a number of women make on the record
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accusations about similar unwanted sexual contact. What's going through your head when you hear that?
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So when I heard the audio, I mean, I was like screaming in my car. I'm like, Oh my God,
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that's exactly what he did to me. Like he literally described exactly what he did to me. Minus the
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grab the P he, I see a woman. It's like a magnet. I can't even help. And I just go right in the kiss.
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I don't ask. And so for me, it solved the questions, you know, you, you kind of second guess and you,
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so it solved every question I had about the intention. It solved every question I had about
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the amount of inappropriateness that, that it was. And, um, I never went back to work.
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All right. Now here's the thing. Even if the incident unfolded exactly as she described,
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uh, I think it would be quite a stretch to call it battery, even just based on what she says,
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just if we were to take it at face value and say, well, that's exactly what happened.
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Um, by that description, it sounds like it could be just an awkward greeting. It doesn't really
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sound like battery to me, but the real problem is that her description does not match up at all
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with what actually happened just released yesterday. Here is a video confirmed by Trump's lawyers and
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Alva Johnson's lawyers. They both confirm this is a real video and it appears to capture the incident
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in question. Watch this. So there you go. Uh, that was, that was battery. She tells us if,
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if you were in the room that day, now the thing is when she, she, she made this claim and other people
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who were, it was obviously a crowded RV. They were in a lot of other people around the other people
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around had come out and said, I was there. I didn't never saw, I never saw anything like this
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happen. What is she talking about? Uh, now you see why they had no memory because it was a totally
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innocuous nothing event. It was a greeting between two people and nothing more. He never grabs her hand
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at all. Um, the, the event unfolds over the course of about three seconds. He doesn't try to kiss her
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lips. He goes right for the cheek. Um, she doesn't like turn away, trying to get away, trying to escape
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his grasp. In fact, she appears, it looks like she kind of gives him an air kiss on the side of his
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face, which for all we know is, is all he did with her. We don't actually know if his lips physically
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made contact with her cheek. Even if that did happen, who cares? Um, this again is a normal
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interaction, normal greeting between two people. The kind of, the kind of greeting that happens
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every day across the world, probably billions of times a day. Um, especially if you happen to travel
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to Europe. So, I mean, if this is sexual assault, then the entire continent of Europe must be immediately
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arrested because then, I mean, this is, this is how people greet each other. In fact, not just Europe,
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I mean, you go down South, uh, South of the border, you go into Central America, South America,
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many, in fact, many places across the world, this very normal way to greet people. Um, in our country,
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we tend to be a little bit more reserved with, when it comes to physical sorts of greetings.
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And I am too. Now, look, I, I'm not going to go kiss somebody on the cheek, uh, the, as, as a greeting.
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Uh, I don't even like to hug people if they aren't in my family, but that's just me. Those are my
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own hangups. It's just my own personal preference. I, I am hugged by people. Uh, if you want to say
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non-consensually all the time, like when, when I would prefer not to go, you know, I'm going for
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the handshake, they go for the hug. That's sort of awkward. That happens with me all the time.
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Um, am I being assaulted? Am I traumatized by it? No, it's just, that's it. Just, it's just a normal
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human thing. Maybe it's a brief moment of being uncomfortable and that's all. And then you,
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you move on with your life and that's the end of it. So this is so transparently bogus,
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which is why I wanted to play those clips of Johnson talking about the quote battery
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before she knew that there were video, there was video of it. In fact, here is, um, I just want to
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play one more clip from the same MSNBC interview interview. Here she is describing her emotional state
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months after the kiss happened on the cheek. Here she is, uh, describing what she was like
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months after the, uh, the incident. I immediately found a lawyer and, um, a couple of days after
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Access Hollywood, I spoke to a lawyer who found me to be very credible. They could see how distraught
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I was. I was down in Florida, a state I didn't live in. I was living in campaign housing that my
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boyfriend and I went in when my roommate went to work and got all of our things, made sure everything,
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you know, left the keys on the dining room table and, um, found alternate housing that we paid for.
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And, um, and so I found an attorney right afterwards, but he, um, he, for business reasons,
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he didn't move forward with my case. And so at that point, um, you know, James Comey has the breaking
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news. And so I'm down in Florida, crying my eyes out, listening to Solange, you know, and, um,
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breaking news is they're reopening the Hillary Clinton investigation. So I became terrified
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because it shifted the momentum and I'm like, Oh my God, he might actually win this. And so I'm
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thinking like, what am I going to do? Like sue the president, you know, uh, became scared.
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Okay. Distraught, crying my eyes out, terrified, scared. At another point, she says that right
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after it happened, she called her parents right after it happened. And she became so emotional
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describing it that she had to pull over to the side of the highway, uh, while over a kiss on the
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cheek. She was kissed on the cheek as she claims that she was in tears on the highway to pull over
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because she was so overcome with the way they're so traumatized by it. Um, is there any conceivable
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way that this woman is really that fragile? Is it, is it even possible that there is any sincerity
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to what she's describing? Um, well, we know that it's not true, but as far as her description of
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her emotional state, I mean, is it possible that like three months after she was kissed on the cheek
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by somebody she's in her house in tears crying about it? Uh, no, I think that, that that's just
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not even possible. This is a con it's a fraud. It's a lie apparently. Um, and it's important for us to
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see how compelling and sincere she seemed when describing what turned out to be the most innocuous
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human interaction imaginable. And this, okay, this feminist is why men are now wary about working
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with women, um, or even interacting with women. They don't know, especially alone. This is why
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there's a, it's not just that the false accusation was made, uh, the, the apparently false accusation,
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I should say, it's not just that the apparently false accusation was made. It's that she, she was
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so convincing about it. Um, so, uh, you know, appear to be so genuine and sincere. And so for men,
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you see that you think, I mean, this, this woman seems to be kind of like a ticking time. If you,
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if you, who knows? I mean, if you are interacting with a woman, you don't know, how do you know if
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she's just a normal person or if she's the next Alva Johnson, who's going to next thing, you know,
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be in tears describing an incident that never actually took place. There's a candidate for
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governor in, I think, Mississippi, Robert Foster, who's getting a lot of blowback right now because
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of a policy that he's enacted where he will not be alone with any woman who is not his wife, period.
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Uh, he won't let women cover him, uh, you know, if it means that they're riding alone together
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or they're alone together in any context, you know, so that, so female reporters, female staffers,
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it's not that he won't hire any females, but he's not going to ever be in a situation where he's alone
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with them. He's being called sexist for this, of course, and it's being framed as Foster,
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not wanting to be around women because he doesn't trust himself. That's not it. You see, uh, it's
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not that he doesn't trust himself is that he doesn't trust the other person necessarily. He
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doesn't trust that the other person will be honest about their interactions. And of course,
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because he doesn't know them. So how's he supposed to know Alva Johnson? I'm sure to Trump
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just seemed like an, another ordinary staffer, perfectly normal person. Um, he trusted her
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enough to just greet her in a normal way. He had no idea that he, she was going to turn around and
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try to turn this into sexual assault, uh, basically. So you never know, never know. That's the problem
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and you can't be trusting. You can't assume, um, especially as a political figure. And this is
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where we are now as a society. This is where me too has brought us. I mean, it's just not reasonable
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to claim that men shouldn't be worried about false accusations. We have apparently yet another example
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of one right here in real time that we can see for ourselves. And this is likely the second false
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accusation against Trump in the last month. The first one being probably the accusation from that,
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uh, from the kooky advice columnist whose story just made no sense whatsoever at all.
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Now, if you're saying that fears about false accusations are unreasonable, you must either
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be insisting that false accusations don't happen, which we know that's not the case,
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or you must be saying that false accusers aren't going to be believed anyway, because we're all so
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good and society is so good at weeding them out. So you don't have to worry about it,
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but we know that's not the case either. In fact, we know that, uh, according to the left,
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according to a lot of people, women have to be believed automatically regardless,
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unless they're accusing Bill Clinton, in which case we can ignore them. But, um,
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otherwise women have to be believed. That's what we're, we're told.
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So that is a, you see how that could be a frightening thing for men. Women have to be believed.
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We know there are women out there willing to make stuff up. And we also know that there are women
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out there who are willing to make stuff up and can do it in a way that seems very sincere.
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As men, now that doesn't mean that there are millions of women like that. It certainly doesn't
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mean that most women are like that, but the point is you don't know. And here's the other thing.
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According to feminists, um, there are tons of men out there who are infected by toxic masculinity and
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who are either rapists or, or, uh, potential rapists. I mean, they still claim that what is
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it? One in every four women on a college campus are raped. That's what they tell us. That's the,
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that, that is the totally made up and false statistic. 25% of all women on a college campus
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are raped according to, um, according to feminists. Now that figure again is just completely false and
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made up and obviously crazy. Now, if that was actually true, you would be insane to send your
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daughter to a college campus. There's a, there's a 25% chance she'll be raped and you're sending her
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there. I mean, you, you'd have to be a horrible person to do that. Um, but of course that's,
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that's not the case. Feminists though, think it is or say that it is, which means if, if just on a
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college campus alone, if 25% of women are raped on a college campus, that means that there are just
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millions of rapists out there. I mean, there are so many rapists. So if you feel that way about it,
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then wouldn't you be in favor of what Robert Foster is doing? And what, when men say, look,
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I'm just not gonna be around women. Cause I don't, you know, I don't know if they're going to make
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something up. You would think feminists would say, well, fine. Cause yeah, I mean,
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like millions of you people are rapists. So this is probably for the best anyway.
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According to you, if you think there are that many rapists out there, wouldn't,
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wouldn't you be the one saying that men and women should never be alone together?
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Or do you not really believe the things that you say?
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Um, okay. Let's, uh, a couple other things. This is, I just want to mention this briefly
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because this is nice. A mayor, Bill de Blasio, who is a very serious contender for the presidency
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says that if he's president, he will pay female athletes equally. Okay. He'll ensure that equal
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pay happens for female athletes. And that's really good stuff. Uh, I think that's great. It reminds me
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of my plan. Um, if I'm elected president to make all zebras blue. Um, that's just something I'm going
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to do. Um, also I'm going to ensure that all diet soda tastes just as good as regular soda.
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And the other thing I'm planning on doing, and this is, this is really interesting part of my
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platform that I haven't heard anyone else talk about is my plan is I'm going to, um, uh, I'm going
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to capture a rainbow in a box. Uh, and then I'm going to, I'm going to seal the box and I'm going to mail
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it to your front door and I'm going to mail everybody rainbows in boxes. And then you open
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the box and the rainbow will come shooting out. And there'll be a leprechaun at the other end of it,
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uh, who will make you pancakes and give you gold too. So those are my plans. My plans are just as
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feasible, realistic, and mature as, uh, Bill de Blasio's plans. And really as, as any of the
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Democrats plans, I think my plans are just as good, if not better and more likely to actually
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happen. Okay. There's an excellent article in the wall street journal today written by Madeline
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Kearns, which profiles a young woman by the name of Selena Sewell or S I want to say Sewell S O U L E
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that's a Sewell, right? Not soul. Selena is 16 years old and she, uh, you know, she truly is an
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example of courage and female empowerment. Turning the sarcasm button off for a minute. This is not
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sarcasm. This really is an example of courage and female empowerment, a real example. Um,
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much more so than certain attention craving female soccer stars. Here we have a girl who's very
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courageous, an athlete. Um, she has filed a civil rights complaint under title nine over Connecticut's
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insane and sexist policy of allowing biological males to compete against girls in high school
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sports. Selena is a track star, um, at a school in Connecticut and girls track and field has been
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particularly hard hit by the gender madness. That's infecting the state and the country as a whole,
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two male athletes. And we've talked about this in the past, two male athletes, uh, have for the last
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two years been dominating girls track and field in a state, uh, scooping up all the medals while the
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girls who have worked for years to earn these medals are deprived. They have no chance. They have no shot
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because they lack the biological advantages that these males possess. It's just as simple as that.
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And, you know, I ran track and field when I was, I ran male track and field, you know,
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where I belonged when I was in high school. And, um, it is, uh, you know, you only get four years to,
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to either win all the medals you can and achieve what you want to achieve or to impress the college
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scouts and be able to go on to college and do it. So it's only four years you have to do it.
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And imagine you finally get into high school, you're, you're running varsity track and, uh,
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you've been training for this and you're very good. You're, you're better than almost all the
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other girls out there. Uh, and then two men show up and take all that. No, they don't just take the
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glory and everything, although they do take that as well, but they take the, they take the medals,
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they take the actual accomplishment itself. I mean, think about how horrible that is.
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And yeah, you know, now if you're a girl racing in a, you know, doing the 800 meter race
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and there are two dudes in the race too, and you come in third and the two dudes come in one and two,
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you know that you really won. Okay. Those two guys are cheating. Their medals don't count.
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Uh, you know, you really won, but technically on paper, you didn't technically on paper,
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they took the medals. So even though you know it and everyone else knows it, it doesn't really
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technically count. And that's, that's a horrible thing. Two sentences from the wall street journal
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article, I think sum up the situation, um, says the results speak for themselves. Listen to this.
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Since Connecticut's athletic conference enacted its liberal gender identity policy,
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two men have won 15 women's state championships, titles that were held by 10 different Connecticut
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girls the previous year, 15. So this is not, again, this is not just some,
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uh, you know, issue that's being invented by conservatives. This is actually happening.
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They took 15 state championship titles from the girls. And if you caught that,
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these were titles that were held by 10 different girls in the past. So in the past, you'd have
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multiple girls winning these various different events. And that's usually how it goes. That's
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how it goes in the men's field too. I mean, you're, you're not in the men's field. You're not going
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to usually have two guys taking 15 state championships in two years, uh, because you're not going to be
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able to dominate that many events. Like either your, your middle distance, your distance, you're a
00:25:28.780
sprinter. Maybe there's a little bit of crossover, but probably whoever wins the 100 isn't going to win
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the 800. That's if you're in where, if you are, where you belong and you have real competition,
00:25:41.120
but this just shows what a gap, what a disparity there is where these guys can waltz in and they
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can win events that, uh, they've never even raced before. They just walk in there, little training,
00:25:51.920
little practice, probably ate a cheeseburger, you know, earlier in the day, and they could just,
00:25:56.240
they can win the race. No problem. It just because they have advantages. They, they physically,
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they have things going for them that the girls don't. I have, I don't have the numbers in front
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of me right now, but I've gone through this before I've written about it. You can go find what I've
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written on it. Um, I've gone and looked to compare the, these two guys, the times that they're winning
00:26:21.000
with against the girls, comparing those times against the boys. And what you find is that,
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um, the times that give them first place finishes against the girls and state championships against
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the girls, against the guys, they wouldn't even place. They wouldn't even be on the track.
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We're talking about, okay, this time, whatever it is in the 100 meter, that's going to get your first
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place against the girls against the guys. It puts you in like 20th place. That is how wide this gap
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is that these boys, if they were where they belong, they wouldn't have any medals, none because they're
00:27:01.980
slow actually by a boy's standard against the girls. They have 15 medals. This is great. But fortunately,
00:27:09.560
Selena Sewell is, uh, standing up. She's so far from what I read, the only girl who has put her name on
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this complaint publicly, but she's certainly not the only girl who feels this way. I mean, I'm sure
00:27:26.940
they all do, but they, they, they feel that they can't come out and say it because they're going to
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be attacked. They're going to suffer consequences. And it's true. They will be attacked and they will
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suffer consequences. That's how crazy this is. This is, these are opportunities being stolen from
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girls. And on top of that, if the girls speak up, they will be shouted down and told to shut up.
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So you want sexism, you want misogyny, you want opportunities being taken from women. You,
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you want all, you want examples of all that stuff. Here it is.
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All right. Uh, let's move on to emails. Matt wall show at gmail.com. Matt wall show at gmail.com.
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This is from Jennifer says, hi, Matt. While I completely agree with the point you brought up
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the other day regarding schools, filling students heads with liberal nonsense. And that homeschooling
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is a great alternative. I have to break it to you that every single homeschool kid I've ever met
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is incredibly weird or socially awkward. I think homeschooling would be an absolutely wonderful way
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to educate my children in the future, but I also want them to be socially normal.
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I will just have to hope I successfully raised my children to not believe the liberal junk that
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here at school, like my parents raised me. I'm sure this comment will put me at the top of your
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execution list when you come into power, but I am willing to take the risk. Well, Jennifer,
00:28:48.300
so I don't need to tell you, you already know that. Um, enjoy your, your, you know, final months or
00:28:54.400
years of, of, uh, earthly existence. Uh, secondarily, uh, I, I, I, um, I like it. You know, the good
00:29:05.520
thing about this show is that this is the only show where the people who email me, I can just
00:29:08.400
casually threaten to kill them and then move on. And it's, it's totally fine and normal. All right.
00:29:13.300
Um, uh, but then of course when I, it's not really, because when I am in shock, when I'm dictator,
00:29:19.300
uh, it's, it, you know, it's not, it's, this is not really killing. It's, it's, this is illegal
00:29:25.120
punishment, you know? Um, so it's a different sort of thing. All right. As far as homeschool kids
00:29:31.320
being weird, you know, first of all, that's, that's not my experience. Um, I've been around
00:29:35.920
a lot of homeschool families, a lot of homeschool kids. I've got homeschool kids in my family. I go to a
00:29:41.500
lot of homeschool conferences. That is just really not my experience at all. Now, are there some
00:29:46.660
weird homeschool kids out there? Yeah. Just like there are weird public school kids. There are weird
00:29:49.660
people of all different sizes, stripes, and backgrounds. Um, but is there a, is there a
00:29:55.960
larger proportion of quote, weird kids in homeschool? I don't think so at all. It's just simply is not my
00:30:02.540
experience. And, um, I think normally now you correct me if I'm wrong. Normally when people say
00:30:11.360
that, it's just sort of a stereotype that they've come to believe. And maybe they've met a few
00:30:15.920
homeschool kids that have helped to reinforce that stereotype. Usually when people say that though,
00:30:19.680
they don't really have experience being around a lot of homeschool families. What strikes me about
00:30:24.400
homeschool kids is that they are so intensely normal, if that makes sense. Um, they are often so
00:30:31.000
just well adjusted and, and mature and able to carry on a conversation. That's what I find with
00:30:38.580
homeschool kids. And I think maybe we're so used to kids being, uh, immature and, uh, you know,
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unable to carry on conversations, unable to interact with adults. We're so used to that,
00:30:57.880
that when we meet a kid who's normal, well-adjusted, mature, shake your hand, look you in the eye,
00:31:04.220
have a kind of, when we meet that, which is, which is healthy and normal and good, we think,
00:31:09.100
oh, that's weird. And maybe it is weird by, in the sense of being abnormal compared to what we're
00:31:16.360
used to, but what we're used to is not good. I will say that, um, when it comes to social,
00:31:24.980
maybe we should stop using terms like weird, which is totally subjective. When it comes to social,
00:31:29.240
being socially adjusted, when it comes to, um, uh, being, you know, socially developed,
00:31:37.740
uh, things like that, I think homeschool way outdoes public school in that regard,
00:31:42.960
way outdoes it. And there's a very clear reason for that because in public school,
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what does the socialization process consist of? How are kids socialized in public school?
00:31:58.120
They are socialized by being thrown into an environment with a bunch of other kids and they
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learn about the world. They learn how to act from the other kids and they start aping their peers,
00:32:11.620
acting like their peers. And, and that's what the quote socialization of public school is in
00:32:16.660
homeschooling. You're around your parents and other adults, much more, um, you spend much more time
00:32:23.820
around your parents, around other adults. The class sizes are much, much smaller, a lot of one-on-one
00:32:29.440
time with adults and not just your, uh, not just your parents either. I mean, you have homeschool
00:32:34.200
co-ops and other things where families get together and kind of share the burden, but still it's all,
00:32:40.140
you're around a lot of adults and you're learning from other adults, how to socialize, how to behave.
00:32:45.080
I think that's going to make you better adjusted. And so the question is, would you rather your child
00:32:51.580
learn how to behave from imitating adults or from imitating other kids? I think that's the basic
00:32:59.100
question you have to ask yourself. All right. This is from Kaylee says, I apologize in advance for the
00:33:03.240
lengthy question, but the other day in your show, you said it would be foolish to say that we ourselves
00:33:08.000
have cultural blind spots that could in the future be considered as bad, if not worse as racism,
00:33:13.400
sexism, et cetera. What do you think those blind spots may be? When you eventually take your rightful
00:33:18.540
place as leader, you have spoken about how you would shoot anyone who dared do something in public
00:33:22.420
as despicable as licking ice cream and putting, putting it back. Would dog owners who let their
00:33:27.400
dogs go to the bathroom anywhere and everywhere and didn't pick it up also be included in those
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executed? Um, Kaylee, uh, yes to your last question. Absolutely. I mean, letting your dog, I just,
00:33:38.800
I can't even, I can barely speak about that issue. It makes me so angry.
00:33:43.400
The idea that you just let your dog defecate on someone else's property and then just leave it
00:33:49.860
there. You're bringing a living creature over to someone's properties. Hey, go ahead and leave it
00:33:55.340
take a defecate on their property and leave. I mean, I find that to be, you have to be a sociopath to do
00:34:01.620
that. Um, as term, and as far as the cultural blind spots, well, probably won't shock you the example
00:34:08.240
I'm going to give, but, um, slavery was a blind spot in human civilization all throughout the world
00:34:16.260
for thousands of years. It was just something people did. It was an institution. It was accepted.
00:34:21.140
And for thousands of years, hardly anyone even questioned it. That was a blind spot, pretty big
00:34:26.900
one. I think we also have a pretty big and very similar morally, um, blind spot. And that is with
00:34:33.220
abortion. Uh, abortion is our blind spot and, uh, it's not a blind spot for all of us. It's not one
00:34:38.280
for me. Hopefully it's not one for you. It's not one for pro-lifers. We see it, but this is what we're
00:34:43.180
up against where for us, it's so clear that, I mean, you're killing a human being that is wrong.
00:34:48.860
That is such a clear and simple concept to us. And we're trying to explain it. One of the frustrations
00:34:54.160
we have as pro-lifers is that people who are in that blind spot, they just don't be, and it's,
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it's, it's, it's, I think a willful thing. They're willfully ignorant. They've closed their eyes to
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the truth. And so you're just trying to get them to open their eyes and close that and get rid of
00:35:08.820
that blind spot, look into that darkened area of their conscience. Uh, that's what we're trying to
00:35:13.780
do much like the abolitionists were trying to do. And I think we have a similar frustration that the
00:35:19.300
abolitionists had where it was like, they were looking around, how can you people not see the
00:35:22.820
problem here? Are you kidding me? Do I really have to explain this to you?
00:35:26.840
Um, this is from Anthony says, Matt, I am emailing you to catch up on the situation here in
00:35:34.640
Mississippi. Robert Foster is catching hell over not allowing a female reporter to ride alone with
00:35:39.900
him all over the state to cover his run for governor. He uses the Billy Graham rule. I recommend the CNN
00:35:45.360
interview he and the reporter did for guidance on the issue. I worked for Robert Foster for two years
00:35:49.700
and the way that, um, the mainstream media is treating him is making me mad because I worked for him
00:35:54.640
for two years and he doesn't deserve this treatment. He's a down to earth guy, respects everybody,
00:35:58.760
no matter who he's talking to. His popularity is now soaring because of his treatment and he will be,
00:36:05.020
he will keep Mississippi in Republican hands. Do you also use the Billy Graham rule? The show is
00:36:09.580
excellent. Keep it, keep it up. Um, yeah, obviously, you know, I got this email before we, as you heard,
00:36:14.440
we, we just talked about the Robert Foster situation. I agree that the treatment he's getting,
00:36:20.300
the backlash is totally unreasonable. And as I said, what's happening with Trump now with the
00:36:25.200
situation with Alva Johnson just proves, and it's not the only thing that proves the wisdom
00:36:30.000
of the precaution that Robert Foster's taking. Do I use the Billy Graham rule? Um, yeah, I mean,
00:36:36.600
it's my wife and I, it's, it's not even like some official policy that we've sat down and hammered out
00:36:43.160
and we've come up with the rules and everything. Um, and I think for a lot of people, when you talk
00:36:47.620
about the Billy Graham rule, that's, you know, or they follow the Billy Graham rule in their marriage,
00:36:51.540
I think for most of the people in that camp, it's the same thing. It's like, not like they've got a
00:36:58.060
whole list of rules or something, uh, you know, complicated set of guidelines. It's just a general
00:37:03.320
understanding that, um, you know, there's, you're not going to go on a one-on-one lunch date with a
00:37:11.580
member of the opposite sex. Um, unless it's a family member or something like that. Um, you're just,
00:37:17.560
you're not going to put yourself in compromising situations. Um, when it comes to interacting with
00:37:23.360
members of the opposite sex outside of the family, then there are just certain boundaries you put in
00:37:27.480
place. Now there are boundaries with all people, there are boundaries with members of the same
00:37:31.540
sex. I mean, there are, you should always have boundaries with people, all different kinds of
00:37:35.940
boundaries, not just, not just sexual boundaries either. So there are always boundaries, but depending
00:37:40.620
on who the person is, what your relationship with them is, their sex, their, you know, their age. I mean,
00:37:45.620
all different, the, all these factors come into play and they're going to determine what sorts of
00:37:51.300
boundaries you have and where those boundaries are. That to me just makes a lot of sense. And,
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and most of it, I'd say in my own personal case with, in my marriage, 99% of the boundary setting is
00:38:05.360
just totally, it's, it's like, you don't even need to say it. It's really obvious we're on the same page
00:38:10.680
and that's it. Um, it's pretty rare where you come into a situation where you have to,
00:38:17.260
we actually have to sit down and talk about, okay, like, how are we going to handle this or
00:38:20.440
how's this going to go? We don't usually have to do that. It's just, it's really obvious stuff for
00:38:24.340
the most part. Um, and the reasons for those boundaries, there are many reasons for the
00:38:31.240
boundaries. One reason is, is the reason I think Robert Foster has and what we've been, what we've been
00:38:36.660
talking about. You do have to worry about, um, you do have to worry about false accusations and,
00:38:43.360
and, uh, you know, you can have an innocuous conversation, innocuous interaction. You don't
00:38:47.660
know how the other person's going to take it or how they're going to twist it and use it against
00:38:50.860
you later on. These unfortunately are things we have to think about. There is also the issue. Um,
00:38:55.780
I think when, you know, when this whole thing came up with Mike Pence a couple of years ago,
00:38:59.680
um, and the, the policy they have in their marriage, which again, is a very normal policy
00:39:05.940
that I think a lot of marriages have, even if they don't talk about it with that. I think it's,
00:39:11.600
it's not just the prop, the, the chance of false accusation. It is also guarding your heart a little
00:39:19.380
bit. Uh, not that you don't trust yourself or that, you know, or anything like that. It's just,
00:39:24.240
it's just understanding how people are. And, uh, and so just guarding yourself a little bit
00:39:30.940
preventing, I think a lot of times with, with affairs that happen in the workplace,
00:39:37.820
I probably almost in every case, it begins with, you know, two people who are having seemingly
00:39:46.860
normal interactions and they grow closer and closer and without noticing it at first. And then
00:39:53.020
at a certain point, they come up to a threshold and they cross that threshold. And that's where the
00:39:57.920
affair happens. I would wager that almost every affair happens that way. And in that most of the
00:40:02.540
time, it's not like a guy's going to work and saying to himself, I'm going to have an affair
00:40:05.680
and I'm going to find someone to have an affair with. It's not how it works. It just, it gradually
00:40:10.920
begins to happen. And it almost always begins with sort of the emotional affair first that the people
00:40:17.660
in the affair might not even fully realize is happening, especially in the beginning. Then it
00:40:22.520
graduates into the physical stuff. Um, part of the reason for putting those boundaries in place
00:40:28.540
is to, you know, like I said, there's that threshold. You don't even want to come anywhere
00:40:32.560
near that threshold. Like you don't even want to get to a point where you're saying to yourself,
00:40:37.300
oh man, I got to pull back. This is getting inappropriate. I think the point of the Mike Pence
00:40:41.940
rule, the Billy Graham rule, whatever you want to call it, it's like, I'm not even going to get to
00:40:45.180
that point. I'm not going to get it. I'm not going to get within 50 miles of that point.
00:40:48.420
Let's just be safe. And, uh, what's the downside really? I mean, what are you, what are you missing
00:40:57.700
out on? You're protecting your marriage. You're protecting yourself. You're protecting your
00:41:01.700
reputation. You're protecting your kids, your family. There's no downside that I can see
00:41:06.440
better safe than sorry. All right. I think we'll leave it there. Uh, thanks everybody for watching.
00:41:18.420
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