The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 295 - Trump Bails Out The Democrats Again

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, over on the Matt Wall Show today, while the Democrats are self-destructing as we speak,

00:00:04.560 making utter fools of themselves, but Trump over the weekend kind of swooped in with a very

00:00:09.780 reckless and self-defeating tweet to bail them out. And I want to talk about Trump's habit of

00:00:17.080 helping the Democrats in this way, of constantly bailing them out. It's a conversation that I think

00:00:22.460 Trump's biggest fans probably won't like, but it's a conversation that needs to be had. Also,

00:00:26.700 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez gets completely embarrassed at a hearing, and it's beautiful to watch. So

00:00:32.580 we'll play that clip for you. Finally, some people on Facebook have announced their plans to storm

00:00:37.580 Area 51 to try to find the aliens. Spoiler alert, I think that's a bad idea. I'm going to go out on

00:00:42.940 a limb and say it's a bad idea, and I'll explain why, in case you didn't already know, today over

00:00:47.780 on the Matt Wall Show. Okay, I am still traumatized today. I'm trying to get past

00:00:56.680 trying to move past it, but what happened was over the weekend, we were going to load the kayak

00:01:02.000 into the truck so we could bring it to the lake so I could fish in the kayak. One of my favorite

00:01:06.360 things to do is to go fishing in a kayak, which really just means that I'm too cheap to buy a boat.

00:01:13.600 But we were about to load it in the truck, and then we noticed a spider in the kayak, and it was

00:01:20.940 not just any spider, it was a black widow spider, which had laid, there was an egg sack, there was a

00:01:26.280 black widow spider and an egg sack in the kayak. Now, that's literally my nightmare. I mean, in a

00:01:32.320 very literal sense, that is my nightmare. That is my worst case scenario. Well, I guess worst case

00:01:37.060 scenario is that we don't notice it, I get into the kayak, and then I'm out in the lake, and then

00:01:42.580 the black widow spider jumps out and tries to bite me in the eyeballs. That's the worst case. This is

00:01:48.260 very close to the worst case scenario. And anyway, what could I do then in that situation, aside from

00:01:54.320 burn the kayak, burn the truck, burn my house, burn myself? I jumped into the fire myself. I look pretty

00:02:00.660 good afterwards, considering. And so now I can never kayak again, and I can never walk out of my house

00:02:06.360 ever again. Now, you might say that it's very girly of me to react this way to a spider. I am terrified

00:02:11.840 of spiders, I admit. But I would respond to that in two ways. Number one, how dare you? Sexist.

00:02:18.260 Number two, spiders are actually demons. They are from hell. They crawled out of the cracks in the

00:02:25.600 ground from hell. And that's, I mean, it's in the Bible. It's right there. So am I girly because I

00:02:31.500 don't want to be around demon spiders? Am I girly because I don't want them to crawl into my ears and

00:02:35.640 eat my soul, as spiders are known to do? No, that's just called taking precautions, okay? That's called

00:02:41.800 knowing the science, all right? I'm going to try to move past this and talk about other things

00:02:48.080 today as best I can to overcome the trauma. And what we're going to do is, to begin with,

00:02:54.720 I want to talk about something that if you're a diehard Trump supporter, a diehard Trump fan,

00:03:01.140 you're probably not going to like. But I think you especially need to hear it. So I hope you stick

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00:05:07.580 going to need. Okay. Now for a conversation that is, um, sure to upset Trump's biggest fans,

00:05:13.760 I think, but it's a conversation that if, if you're in that group, uh, I think, as I said,

00:05:20.660 you need to be a part of first though, let's kind of set the stage. We'll back up last week

00:05:27.300 was a pretty disastrous week for the Democrats. As we discussed last week, AOC basically insinuated

00:05:33.640 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez basically insinuated that Nancy Pelosi is racist, accusing her of a quote,

00:05:39.260 singling out women of color in Congress, which is not so much an insinuation of racism as it is

00:05:45.800 an outright accusation of racism. And then Pelosi responded and their supporters and the different

00:05:51.380 factions have been going back and forth, eating each other alive. It's been very ugly, ugly. If

00:05:55.960 you're a Democrat, if you're, you know, not a Democrat, if you're a conservative, it's kind of

00:05:59.640 beautiful to watch your opponents eat themselves. And then over the weekend, um, so that was what

00:06:07.140 happened last week. The Democrats spent last week eating each other, um, cannibalizing, you know,

00:06:13.080 their own party. And then we get to the weekend and over the weekend, left-wing extremists have been

00:06:18.800 themselves going out of their way to expose themselves as the anti-American militants that

00:06:23.760 they really are. There was, there were, there were two moments. Um, first there was this moment. Watch this.

00:06:43.080 Those are leftist protesters at an ice facility in Colorado, ripping the American flag down and

00:06:54.020 replacing it with a Mexican flag. And I have to tell you, I'm very glad they did this. I'm not

00:06:58.140 glad to see that the flag disrespected, but I'm glad, um, I'm always glad when leftist radicals expose

00:07:05.860 themselves as the radicals they are. I'm glad when they make their true intentions known. Um, I'm, I'm,

00:07:12.460 I'm glad for the truth to be shown and for people to see it. They really do hate this country and they

00:07:17.460 really do want to bring illegal immigrants in here in order to upend and destroy our country. That's very

00:07:22.220 clear. I mean, that's, that's what that, the symbolism there means where you tear down an American flag and

00:07:26.580 replace it with a Mexican flag. That's what you're doing. And then also on Saturday, um, something I

00:07:31.860 was not glad about because of the violence and the fact that someone died in the process. Um,

00:07:37.020 and Antifa terrorists waged an attack at an ice facility in Washington state. He came with explosive

00:07:43.620 devices, um, a gun, and he was eventually, thank God he didn't, he didn't succeed in hurting anybody

00:07:51.300 at the ice facility, but he himself was shot and killed by police. This is an incident that should get

00:07:58.100 a lot of attention. Now we know that the, the, the main, the leftist media is going to ignore it,

00:08:02.180 but this is, you know, it, someone deeply affiliated with an involved in Antifa, uh, someone has been

00:08:11.240 arrested in the past. Who's going now with a gun and incendiary devices and attacking a government

00:08:17.980 facility. I mean, Antifa is a terrorist organization and that is becoming increasingly clear. And they

00:08:26.120 themselves, the Antifa members are increasingly, um, less shy about, you know, acting like terrorists

00:08:33.820 and exposing themselves as terrorists. So we should be talking about that. We should be talking about

00:08:38.580 the flag thing. We should be talking still about Democrats, you know, the, the infighting and

00:08:42.820 everything, but we haven't been talking much about that this weekend. Um, because instead we've been

00:08:51.300 talking about Donald Trump's tweeting, uh, Donald Trump has a policy, it seems where he will not let

00:08:59.100 his enemies destroy themselves for very long. You know, when, when his enemies are destroying

00:09:04.380 themselves, Donald Trump just compulsively needs to jump in and say, no, no, no, put some of the

00:09:10.320 negative spotlight on me. I don't know. I'm not going to let you guys make idiots of yourselves. Okay.

00:09:14.180 I'm still here. Um, he needs to bring the spotlight, the negative spotlight back on himself.

00:09:20.440 He is constantly, constantly, constantly bailing out his opponents by saying dumb stuff that gives

00:09:26.640 them an excuse to change the subject and get back to talking about him in a negative way.

00:09:31.680 Constantly. He's constantly doing it. And he did it again in a big way this weekend. Um, referring to

00:09:38.960 what is annoyingly now, I guess, called the squad. I mean, you couldn't think of a more annoying name

00:09:45.140 for these, uh, for, for, for this collection of people, but the, um, the freshman democratic

00:09:50.200 representatives who have been warring with Pelosi lately and who have been, you know, getting all

00:09:54.380 the, just sucking all the air out of the room and getting all the attention. It's, um, yeah,

00:09:59.780 Ilhad Omar, um, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, and, uh, Ayana Presley. Okay. Those are the

00:10:08.680 sort of the four, um, representatives that are in this unofficial group now. And referring to them,

00:10:18.440 Trump tweeted this. He said, so interesting to see progressive Democrat Congresswomen who

00:10:23.880 originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst,

00:10:28.760 most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world. If they even have a function in government at all

00:10:33.020 now, loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful

00:10:37.000 nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don't they go back and help fix the totally

00:10:41.260 broken and crime infested places from which they came, then come back and show us how it's done.

00:10:45.580 These places need your help badly. You can't leave fast enough. I'm sure that Nancy Pelosi would be

00:10:50.000 very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements. Um, that last line about Nancy

00:10:56.260 Pelosi makes it very clear who he's referring to. There's no way around it. He's referring to the

00:11:00.120 Congresswomen who Nancy Pelosi has been at odds with. And those are the four that I mentioned.

00:11:05.180 So there you have it. He is telling minority women to go back where they came from. Uh,

00:11:10.380 it's just, that's, what's happening here. There's no way around it. He said it's, it's right in

00:11:14.580 there. I mean, you could try to deny it and say, it's not what he said. We can all read it. It's

00:11:18.780 right there. We know what he said. That is what he said. Plain as day. Um, and we should also

00:11:24.640 mention to make matters worse that only one of the four women is foreign born. Omar is, is foreign

00:11:31.680 born, but the others were born in the United States. So, you know, some Trump fans have

00:11:36.880 tried to bail out the president by saying, Oh no, he was only referring to Omar, uh, not the other

00:11:41.120 ones. Well, that's nonsense. He said women that's plural. And he, and he's continued to tweet on this

00:11:46.060 subject, uh, uh, just continuing to, to keep it, you know, to, to make sure that we continue talking

00:11:52.840 about it. And he's, he always talks about it in a plural. He's not, he's not just talking about

00:11:57.680 Omar. He's talking about all four of them. It's very, very clear. Now, again, as a Trump fan,

00:12:02.460 you could deny it. You can tell each other and yourself, that's not what he meant, but everybody

00:12:06.760 else knows what he meant. And no matter what you say, you're not going to change what other people

00:12:13.260 know to be true. You see that that's the problem. So he is, he is also telling people who were born in

00:12:21.300 this country to go back where they came from. Now, the other, um, rationalization I've heard

00:12:27.560 from some Trump fans is they say, Oh no, he wasn't saying go back to the countries where they originally

00:12:31.860 came from or their families came from, uh, but go back to their districts as Congress people go back

00:12:36.820 and fix it. He said countries, he literally said countries. He started the thing by talking about

00:12:43.060 countries they came from. And then he said, go back. So clearly, yes, he is telling

00:12:48.920 these people who are, again, only one of them is actually foreign born to go back where they came

00:12:55.120 from. You can't get around it. You just can't. It, and it is, uh, he's telling minority women to go

00:13:01.640 back where they came from, which is a monumentally stupid thing to say. Such an absolutely dumb,

00:13:08.520 ridiculous, idiotic, unforced error that can only hurt him and the Republicans and conservatives. It cannot

00:13:16.160 do anything good. There's nothing good that can come of it. Period. Not surprised by it because

00:13:24.680 Trump, as I said, is constantly doing this kind of thing. He's constantly getting his message across

00:13:28.980 in the worst possible way and stepping on every landmine in the process and seemingly determined

00:13:35.240 to make sure that he confirms all of the worst things that he is, that, that, that his, that his

00:13:40.800 enemies say about him. Um, this tweet, like so many of Trump's tweets is a gift to Omar, Cortez,

00:13:49.120 all the, all the Democrats. It is, it is like, it's like a Christmas present that he wrapped up

00:13:54.460 and handed them and said, here you go. It takes the focus off of them. It gives them reason to unite.

00:13:59.860 They were, they were at each other's throat. Now they're united. Now they're back together again.

00:14:03.440 And it's a happy go lucky. And you know, they're in this fight together. So that's not good. It's

00:14:09.000 better when they're fighting. It's that you don't want them together united. Um, it gives them a

00:14:14.360 chance to take a righteous stand and stand against racism and ethnocentrism against them, all that.

00:14:20.500 It gives them campaign material fodder. It's just, it's just, it is, as I said, a gift. Now, look,

00:14:26.180 I don't think that Trump is racist. I I've said that many times. Um, Trump, no, he's not,

00:14:33.680 see his enemies either knowingly, um, misrepresent him, which of course we know they do or they just

00:14:42.800 really don't under, I think it's kind of a combination. They also, I think there are a

00:14:46.000 lot of people, his fans included actually, who really just don't understand somehow what he's

00:14:51.300 all about. Now, I think Trump is very easy to read. He's a very, you know, he's a very simple

00:14:55.400 person to understand what makes him tick. So is he racist? No, Trump just says stuff. That's what he,

00:15:02.120 he says, whatever will get him attention. He doesn't hate people based on race. He likes

00:15:08.000 anyone who likes him, period. If you like him and say something nice about him, he will like you.

00:15:13.800 It doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Um, and, uh, and if you criticize

00:15:19.840 him, he hates you. That's, that's as simple as that. It's a race doesn't factor in gender.

00:15:24.080 Doesn't factor in political party. Doesn't factor in nothing factors. And that's it. That's all there

00:15:29.080 is to it. It's that simple. Um, it's also true that the left and, and, uh, and, you know, Democrats,

00:15:36.800 leftists, they're going to call people racist regardless. They're going to call their enemies

00:15:40.500 racist regardless. I get called racist all the time, erroneously, but I get called it. It's just

00:15:46.120 a word that the left throws around. Um, and, uh, it is a word that, that talk about unforced stupid

00:15:54.440 errors on their part. They have taken this accusation, which, um, which could have a lot

00:16:01.860 of force to it and used to have a lot of force, but now it doesn't have as much because they use

00:16:06.740 it way too often and they call everything racist. And the thing is when you call everything racist

00:16:10.760 and then you actually stumble across a racist thing, it's going to be harder for you to condemn

00:16:16.640 it or to have people take your condemnation seriously because you're, it's the boy who cried

00:16:20.960 wolf thing, boy who cried racism. Right? So, uh, yes. So those two things should be stipulated.

00:16:28.600 Fine. Um, with that said, however, the fact is he told minority women to go back where they came

00:16:36.720 from. And it is really, really, really, really, really easy to credibly paint that as a racist

00:16:45.760 comment. Now here's the nuance here. Again, you know, if you're a Trump fan, you're going to say,

00:16:49.760 he's not racist, but fine. It is clearly very, very easy though, to take a comment like that

00:17:01.400 and present it, uh, uh, you know, argue that it is racist. Now, yes, they do that with every comment.

00:17:10.280 Sure. But you don't have to hand it to them on a silver platter. Okay. You don't have to do that.

00:17:16.200 You don't have to put yourself in a situation where you're trying to argue. You know, you can

00:17:21.520 tell minorities to come back where they came from and it's not racist. Let me explain why

00:17:24.200 that's a losing conversation. That's not a winner. And it's stupid. Why? We don't need to talk about

00:17:30.560 that. That's not the point. That's what frustrates me so much is it, you know, people say, oh, well,

00:17:37.820 you know, he's, he's, he's talking about immigration. He's like, okay, let's talk about that.

00:17:41.400 We don't need to have a conversation about, well, is it technically racist to tell people?

00:17:45.660 No, that's not the freaking point. You think that it's helpful to have that conversation?

00:17:50.900 You think it, you think it will get our point across better? You think we're more likely to,

00:17:55.760 um, bring people to our side when we're, when we're trying to, you know, have the conversation

00:18:00.300 through that lens? Um, I mean, it's like the thing where he said, uh, you know, there are fine

00:18:08.420 people on both sides after the, uh, neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville. Now Trump fans again,

00:18:14.920 will are very quick to point out that, uh, that if you look at it in context, that's,

00:18:19.900 that's not what he said. He wasn't referring to the neo-Nazis. He was trying to say that there

00:18:23.520 were other people there who were not neo-Nazis who were there for other reasons and that they

00:18:28.700 could be fine people. I get that. Okay. I, yes, that's true. You look at it in context, but it was

00:18:35.100 still a stupid thing to say. It's, we don't want to have to sit here and explain why, well, yeah,

00:18:40.980 you could say there are fine people on both sides in reference to a mostly neo-Nazi rally and it's

00:18:45.380 not technically racist. That might be true, but it's a losing conversation. It's a loser.

00:18:53.120 It's just, there's no reason to say it. He should have just not said it.

00:18:56.440 Um, and it's not because, uh, you know, every time I talk about this, people say, oh, you just

00:19:06.460 want to be politically correct. Come on. I mean, you know, you know me, right? I'm not politically

00:19:10.940 correct. I could care less about political correctness. I say things every day that are

00:19:15.160 as, as far from politically correct as humanly possible. And I have the death threats and the,

00:19:19.880 the death wishes and the hate mail and everything imaginable to prove it. Okay. I've told you about

00:19:25.680 it on the show. I've had people wish death and worse on my family, on my children, on me. It's a

00:19:31.140 normal occurrence for me. Um, death wishes, death threats. I mean, all that stuff. Okay.

00:19:37.360 Because I don't care about political correctness and because I'm, you know, I'm going to engage on

00:19:42.640 issues. So I don't care about that. That's not my point. Um, but if I'm talking to minorities

00:19:52.640 and we're debating something, I'm not going to say go back where you came from, uh, because I'm

00:20:01.800 politically correct. No, it's just an incredibly stupid way of getting your point across and you're

00:20:07.060 going to lose it. Once you say something like that, you lose any chance you had of, of conveying

00:20:13.120 your message and actually getting it across is gone because you said that. Okay. Um, there's a,

00:20:21.780 there is a, uh, uh, now I do think you can say something like, and I have said things like

00:20:27.180 generally speaking, not targeted at minorities, but just in general, look, if you hate America that

00:20:32.940 much, if you think it's a terrible, then you can leave. Right. I've said that about Colin Kaepernick.

00:20:38.780 Um, but there's a very clear difference actually between saying, look, if you hate America,

00:20:46.480 you can leave and saying, go back where you came from. So very clear difference between those two

00:20:54.120 statements, very clear. And anyone who cannot see the difference shouldn't be in politics.

00:21:00.580 If you can't see the difference between those two things, you are not nearly politically savvy

00:21:04.640 enough to be in politics. Now, Trump fans will still try to pretend that the president tells it like

00:21:12.520 it is. And, you know, says the things that other people are afraid of saying, that's not it. Okay.

00:21:18.120 I mean, at this point, guys, you got to see the reality for what it is. Um, it's just, it's the

00:21:25.040 same thing when, when, uh, you, you still hear people trying to claim that Trump is playing some

00:21:29.580 sort of brilliant game of 3d chess and this is all a political strategy and all it's so it's, it's so,

00:21:35.560 you know, subliminal and subtle. And yet it's so, the guy's a genius. No, no. I mean, by now you must

00:21:42.600 realize what's going on here. He, he watches Fox and friends, especially on the weekend. And he just

00:21:48.160 tweets and thinks out loud on the internet. That's it. That's all it's. I mean, it like a lot of people

00:21:52.740 on Twitter, except he's the president. It's the, that's the, that's the difference here. Now you could

00:21:59.040 say about me, I was, you run your mouth on Twitter all the time. True. I do, but I'm not the president

00:22:04.840 though. You see, I, I, I'm just paid to run my mouth. That's, that's my whole job. I'm not paid

00:22:11.120 to run the country. I am paid to run my mouth and it's a, and it could be a fun job and you know,

00:22:16.600 we can argue about whether or not it's a very useful job, but, um, regardless, that's my job.

00:22:23.340 I like to think the president, his job is bigger than that, more than that.

00:22:30.580 And even as someone who's paid to run my mouth, even I wouldn't say half of the stuff that he says

00:22:34.740 on Twitter again, not because I'm afraid, not because I'm politically, but because it's stupid

00:22:39.880 to say and will achieve nothing positive at all, period. Um, so, okay, here, here's, here's the point.

00:22:53.200 We gotta, we gotta move on. Um, when it comes to the tweeting, if, if you, if you are a diehard fan,

00:23:02.240 you love the tweets, great, fine. I mean, you're, you're entitled to love the tweets. I'm not telling

00:23:08.120 you not to, you can think whatever you want, right? But most people in the country are not

00:23:15.300 diehard Trump fans. And there aren't enough of you to reelect him in 2020. It's, it's just not enough.

00:23:22.460 Now he won in 2020 with 3 million fewer vote voters. And he did it because he was running

00:23:27.940 against Hillary Clinton, who's the most unlikable and corrupt political candidate in modern American

00:23:31.880 history. She didn't campaign in the rust belt. Amazingly. Um, she was being investigated by the

00:23:38.260 FBI during the campaign. Um, uh, he was a novelty at the time, uh, which, which, which really counts

00:23:45.220 for something. And his, the people who didn't like him, his opponents didn't take him seriously

00:23:50.500 enough as a threat. And so they didn't show up in places like Detroit and Philadelphia. Um,

00:23:56.220 it's a lot of these urban centers. There was a depressed voter turnout, partly because they thought,

00:23:59.940 ah, he's going to lose anyway. We don't have to take him seriously. Well, as soon as he won,

00:24:04.540 they realized that, oh, wait, okay, that was a mistake. And then that's why it was, it was just

00:24:08.620 a few weeks later after he was inaugurated or, or was it a few weeks before? I don't remember,

00:24:12.940 uh, where you had the women's March and a million people out and they were, you know, freaking out

00:24:16.460 about Trump now. And, and we all said at the time, okay, it's a little late for that. You people

00:24:20.600 should have been there. You know, if you, if you really were that worried about Trump, maybe you should

00:24:23.560 have showed up at the ballot box and you didn't, they're not going to make that mistake again.

00:24:28.000 They won't, you can't count on it. You cannot count on, on, on Trump's opponents and people who hate

00:24:33.740 him not showing up again, they will show up. So all those things I just listed, those are benefits.

00:24:38.800 He is not going to have anymore. Those are gone. It's a different day. It's a different year,

00:24:43.160 different, which, which yet again, emphasizes that he's going to need, um, to expand his coalition.

00:24:53.400 Now he won with what it was a 60 or 61 million voters last time. Yeah. It's all about the

00:24:59.440 electoral college. Right. But it also, you also need bodies. You need warm bodies. That's how you

00:25:03.920 get the electoral college votes. So he won with that amount last time. Um, that same amount isn't

00:25:10.240 going to be enough this time. And it's arguable. It's, it's doubtful whether he could even get that

00:25:16.840 the same amount again, but you have to ask me, what has he done to expand the base, to get more

00:25:25.520 people in and don't just tell me, Oh, the economy is doing fine. Who cares? I got news for you. Most

00:25:31.340 people don't vote based on the economy that whatever anyone says, it's not true. Most people don't.

00:25:35.640 Most people, they're not looking at the freaking stock market before they go to the polls.

00:25:38.720 Um, no, what has he done in terms of his communicating in terms of his, you know, on a

00:25:45.760 very human level, right? What is he doing to expand, to bring more people in?

00:25:53.660 Because running his mouth on Twitter, the same way he did in 2015 and 2016, does that represent

00:26:01.240 an attempt to bring more people in to appeal to more people? Are these tweets going to appeal

00:26:07.700 to more people? No, that's the problem. You know, they've done surveys on this. The vast majority

00:26:15.100 of Americans have a negative view of the tweeting. And if they did a survey on that particular tweet,

00:26:20.300 I guarantee it's going to be majority are going to say, I don't like it. Now they might not all

00:26:23.440 freak out and say it's racist, but at best they're going to say, ah, that was stupid. At worst,

00:26:28.700 they're going to say he's a bigot racist clan member, right? That's kind of the scale you're

00:26:32.380 getting. When you say stuff like that, that's the best you can hope for is for people to say,

00:26:37.040 ah, that's stupid, but I'll try to look past it. And that's what Twitter has become. It's become

00:26:41.860 a thing where at best people look past it. It's not a net positive anymore.

00:26:50.860 And here's how I know it, and then we'll move on. Here's how I know that it's not a net positive.

00:26:56.560 Because I think we all know, and I talk to people like this all the time,

00:27:03.560 people who are kind of more in the middle politically, they like some of Trump's policies.

00:27:11.340 In fact, policy-wise, he's better than they thought he would be. So they like some of his

00:27:17.400 policies. They don't like some others, but they're kind of like, you know, they don't like the

00:27:20.020 Democrats either. So there's a lot of people in that realm. Don't like Democrats, not diehard

00:27:24.600 Republicans, not diehard Trump fans. They like some of his policies. They're with him on most of the

00:27:29.840 immigration stuff. They're with him on the gun rights stuff. They're with him on, you know,

00:27:32.980 foreign policy. But they really hate the tweets. And his whole act, his whole shtick, they just

00:27:41.520 hate it. They don't like it. They are turned off by it. And so there are a lot of people in that camp.

00:27:47.680 Now, some of them are going to overlook it and vote for him anyway. Great. But not all of them will.

00:27:53.060 There are going to be some who say, you know what, I just, I can't vote for him. I'm going to stay

00:27:55.560 home. I'm just so sick of it. Or maybe they'll vote against him. Who knows? You might not agree

00:28:02.000 with that. Fine. But those people exist. That's a political reality. So we know those people exist.

00:28:08.100 I talk to them all the time. I know they exist. Do you think there's anyone who, the same sort of

00:28:14.580 thing where they say, yeah, you know, I like, or, you know, let's look at, they kind of are iffy

00:28:22.380 honest policies. I don't know. They're sort of, they're sort of in the middle, but they just love

00:28:27.120 the tweets. It's like, give me more tweets. I love this stuff, man. And so they're going to be

00:28:32.460 more inclined to vote for him because of the tweets. You think there's anyone in that category?

00:28:39.540 If you're a diehard fan, you're not in that category. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking

00:28:42.880 about people who are not diehard yet are going to be more compelled to vote for him because of the

00:28:47.980 tweeting. I think we all know there's nobody in that category. There are a lot of people who

00:28:54.200 maybe would vote for him are less, are, are, are less excited about it because of the tweets.

00:28:59.520 There's nobody who are a maybe, but are more excited because of the tweets. And so that tells

00:29:04.560 us that it's just, it's a, it's, it's not good politically. It's not good. And he's killing

00:29:08.680 himself and he's giving gifts to the Democrats. And if you, if you really are a Trump supporter,

00:29:12.600 and if you really hate the Democrats and you don't want them in control, you got to stop

00:29:16.940 encouraging this stuff because it's not helping. All right. Let's see. What else do we want to talk

00:29:28.160 about? Let's go back. Let's go back briefly. And I talked about the Democrats embarrassing

00:29:34.760 themselves. Let's look at one of the embarrassing democratic moments that Trump has so helpfully

00:29:40.660 distracted us from, um, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez at a hearing on Friday, uh, tried to take the former

00:29:49.440 head of, of ice to task. In fact, before we play that clip, it's a great clip. Um, before we play

00:29:55.220 that, actually, she, so she was, uh, she was at this hearing and first of all, she insisted on being

00:30:02.780 sworn in, even though she was told, well, you don't need to swear, swear, swear in, we don't swear

00:30:09.060 people in for this. She insisted on it. And why did she insist on being sworn in? Well, because she

00:30:14.880 stood up there and, uh, she, you know, she had her, she had her hand up and she had this, you know,

00:30:20.520 that kind of like innocent, but, but sort of innocent deer in the headlights, but also determined

00:30:26.060 sort of facial expression that AOC does all the time. So she's standing there with that facial

00:30:29.800 expression with her hand up. And the reason why she insisted on being sworn in, even though it wasn't

00:30:34.940 necessary is so just so she could get that picture. And just so that now she knew that, um, she's going

00:30:42.420 to get that picture of herself with her hand up. And then every news article about the hearing is

00:30:49.160 going to have that picture attached to it, which means that, okay, now she looks determined and

00:30:54.400 serious and it's a nice little picture. And also it makes it about her. Now I, I think that that's a,

00:31:02.840 uh, disingenuous tactic. I think using, you know, using a swearing in as a, as a, you know,

00:31:11.280 as a political ploy like that is detestable. It actually, that's actually taking the Lord's name

00:31:17.620 in vain. That's actually what taking the Lord's name in vain means when you swear by something,

00:31:23.080 but you don't mean it, you're doing it in vain. So I don't like it, but it's politically savvy.

00:31:30.220 Now see, that's what a politically brilliant move looks like. And AOC, I, I don't like her. I mean,

00:31:38.320 I think her policy-wise, I absolutely oppose everything she's ever said or suggested policy-wise.

00:31:43.640 And as a person, I think she's dishonest. I think she's, she's, uh, she's a race baiter. Um,

00:31:51.380 I just, I don't like her as a person. I don't think she's a good person,

00:31:54.080 but she, she, she is politically savvy. And that was a, was a pretty brilliant move.

00:32:04.880 That's the kind of thing Trump needs to be doing. Not that exact thing, but things that are going to

00:32:09.260 make you look good. Things that, you know, I just, where you think about how this is going to be

00:32:14.760 perceived and viewed by the general public, not just your diehard fans, but just the average person

00:32:21.320 who doesn't follow politics that closely. And the average person who doesn't follow it,

00:32:26.220 they're going to see the picture of AOC with her hand up, but they're going to think, oh,

00:32:28.640 that's a very, oh, it's like a very honest and straightforward person who's, you know,

00:32:32.520 swearing in and is going to tell the truth. That's what these sort of just average oblivious

00:32:35.860 person's going to think. Trump needs to be doing a lot more to appeal to that type of person

00:32:42.480 or he's going to lose. Okay. Um, so she, uh, that was a fine little stunt,

00:32:48.920 but then the problem is you could do the stunt for the picture, but then yeah, then it comes time

00:32:53.520 for the actual substance and that's where, uh, AOC falls apart. And so here she is. Uh, you could

00:33:00.180 tell she, she thinks she's got him, but she doesn't watch this. Mr. Holman, your name is on

00:33:07.340 this. Is this correct? Yes. I signed that memo. So you are the author of the family separation

00:33:13.080 policy. I am not the author of this memo. You're not the author, but you signed the memo. Yes. A zero,

00:33:18.240 a zero tolerance memo. So you provided the official recommendation to Secretary Nielsen

00:33:24.740 on family, for the United States to pursue family separation. I gave Secretary Nielsen numerous

00:33:30.140 recommendations on how to secure the border and save lives. But it says here that you,

00:33:34.880 you gave her numerous options, but the recommendation was option three, family separation. What I'm

00:33:40.160 saying, this is not the only paper where we've given the secretary numerous options to secure

00:33:45.500 the border and save lives. And so the recommendation of the many that you recommended, you recommended

00:33:51.760 family separation. I recommended zero tolerance. Which includes family separation. The same as

00:33:57.960 it is when every U.S. citizen parent gets arrested when they're with a child. Zero tolerance was

00:34:06.160 interpreted as the policy that separated children from their parents. If I get arrested for DUI and I

00:34:11.200 have a young child in a car, I'm gonna be separated. When I was a police officer in New York and I arrested

00:34:15.400 a father for domestic violence, I separated that father from his family. Mr. Holman, with all due

00:34:19.540 respect, legal asylees are not charged with any crime. When you're in the country illegally, it's

00:34:27.700 violation 8 United States Code 1325. Seeking asylum is legal. If you want to seek asylum and go

00:34:33.900 through the port of entry, do it the legal way. The Attorney General of the United States has made that clear.

00:34:38.860 Okay. Okay, so there you go. You know what that is? That is appeals to emotion, appeals to feeling,

00:34:53.300 talking points, all of that in a bundle coming right up against just facts and a logical point of

00:35:03.880 view. The ICE director there, former ICE director, it's just common sense, logical, look, here's the deal

00:35:13.420 type of approach. And when the one appeal smashes up against that, it's like a brick wall and it just

00:35:21.940 falls to pieces. And so she just, that was just a beautiful moment because she just disintegrated.

00:35:31.440 She had all of her, she had all of her talking points. Oh, you're separating families. And he

00:35:36.600 says, yeah, well, that's what happens when you arrest somebody. Of course we are. That's not the

00:35:41.780 point. Okay. It's not, it's, this isn't some ploy, some, uh, you know, when, when, if you get arrested

00:35:47.860 for DUI or something, you have your kids in the car, you're going to be separated from your children

00:35:52.660 and you're also going to be locked in a cage. And if you want to put it like that, of course,

00:35:59.500 it's going to make it seem worse, but it's actually just, it's a, it's a, what else are you going to

00:36:03.480 do? Are you going to put the kid in, in jail with the parent? That would be, um, a heck of a lot worse

00:36:09.680 than separating them. But when you're in a position where you've got somebody breaking the law and you

00:36:18.740 need to detain them, there isn't any sort of happy or nice way to do it. It's, it's kind of a lose

00:36:27.720 lose regardless. Um, lose, lose for the person, especially who's being arrested. And if they've

00:36:36.400 got kids, if they got a family, it's just going to make it even more difficult, but you still have

00:36:40.480 to enforce the law, obviously. So I love that approach. That's a good approach. Um, because

00:36:49.140 look, it's, he wasn't showboating. He wasn't trying to be, uh, intentionally outrageous or provocative

00:36:56.300 or anything. He was just like, here's the deal. All right. Um, I guess we're going to, well, I've got

00:37:05.680 a bunch of emails. I don't have time to get into it. So I think we'll save them. I also wanted to

00:37:09.840 mention, I think it's September. I want to say September 20th. I don't know. Look it up, but

00:37:15.540 there is this Facebook group, which I can't tell if it's serious or not. I can, you just, you can't

00:37:22.500 tell anymore, especially online if people are being serious or if they're just crazy. Um, I mean, for the

00:37:28.800 longest time, I, the whole flat earth thing is a flat earth groups online and flat earth YouTube

00:37:34.900 people for the longest time, I really thought that all that stuff was ironic and people were just

00:37:39.620 kidding around and it was just sort of this inside joke. And, uh, so I thought I could appreciate

00:37:45.640 that. I can appreciate irony. And, and then it took me a while before I realized, Oh wait, they're

00:37:49.580 serious. People actually believe this. So it's a similar thing here where you've got a Facebook group

00:37:54.780 with a thou, I don't know what the number is up now, but thousands of people who are claiming that

00:38:01.040 they plan to storm area 51 out in the desert in a, I believe, what is it? Nevada area 51.

00:38:08.000 They plan to storm it, um, so that they can discover the aliens that they believe are being

00:38:14.580 kept at area 51. The Facebook group, this, the, the description says, let's get them aliens.

00:38:21.500 And it suggested that if they all run and they charge, uh, area 51, then they can't all be shot.

00:38:31.040 Uh, the, the, the bullets won't be able to keep up with them, which of course is not true. Uh, I just

00:38:37.360 would tell you that. So, as I said, I don't know. Um, I don't know if it's, I, I can't tell if these

00:38:43.460 people are sincere or not, but I hope they're, they aren't because if a, if, if a thousand people

00:38:48.040 do storm area 51, you're going to have a thousand dead people and nobody wants to see that.

00:38:51.720 Um, and I, and I'll, I'll also say this, listen, as, as fun as it is to think that aliens have

00:39:02.940 visited earth and the, the, the, the government is, is hiding, you know, the information about

00:39:08.020 these aliens as I, it's, I like to think about, to think that that's true too, because it's a fun

00:39:13.240 thing to think. It makes you feel like you're living in a movie, but I got to tell you, if you're

00:39:19.140 planning on storming area 51, I'm just spoiler alert. Um, they don't have aliens, which as far

00:39:26.400 as you're concerned, they're definitely not going to have aliens because you're going to be killed

00:39:29.240 in the process so that you'll never see them even if they do have them. But, um, in any case,

00:39:34.120 they don't have them. They don't have the aliens. And I know that for two reasons.

00:39:38.140 Number one, this is the main thing. And this is one of the reasons why all the conspiracy theories

00:39:42.520 about, Oh, the, the, the, the government did nine 11 and the government faked the moon landing,

00:39:46.840 the government, all this stuff. I know that all of that is false because number one,

00:39:53.380 it's just self-evidently absurd and stupid. And I have common sense, but number two,

00:39:58.400 our government is not nearly competent enough to coordinate these conspiracies and keep all these

00:40:05.240 secrets. I mean, you see how things are just leaking out of the Trump administration constantly out of

00:40:09.920 every presidential administration, there are constant leaks and everything happening. Um,

00:40:14.000 you really think, I mean, area 51 has been there for, for decades. So that means that thousands of

00:40:20.200 people probably not only know about the aliens, but I've seen the aliens. And at this point,

00:40:25.280 there's been no leaked information, no, no, uh, video or photos have made it out. No, just, uh,

00:40:32.400 our government again, is not nearly competent enough to keep a secret like that for so long.

00:40:36.500 And then number two, also, um, I do think there are aliens out there, but, uh, they have never made

00:40:42.880 it to earth. They never will. The distances are just too great. There is no technology. I mean,

00:40:49.000 in science fiction, there's technology in reality, there just probably cannot ever be, um, technology

00:40:56.180 that would traverse the distances you would need to traverse in order for one civilized planet to

00:41:01.880 encounter, um, another civilized planet. I mean, we're talking about light years, traveling at the

00:41:07.500 speed of light is impossible. Traveling beyond speed of light is definitely impossible. But even

00:41:12.980 if you were traveling at the speed of light, which again is impossible, it would still take you

00:41:16.460 probably hundreds of years in a spaceship to get to a planet that potentially has, uh, other

00:41:22.760 intelligent life. It's never going to happen. So, um, we're alone as far as, as far as we're

00:41:28.400 concerned. We are alone on earth. Don't go getting yourself shot over it. I understand the appeal,

00:41:34.440 not of getting shot, but of wanting to see area 51. Um, but, uh, um, don't do it. That's my

00:41:40.300 recommendation. All right. We will leave it there. Thanks everybody for watching. Thanks for listening.

00:41:44.060 Godspeed.

00:41:58.400 It's Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan show. Our president, Donald Trump is acting like a jerk

00:42:03.700 again. The never Trumpers clutch their pearls, the pro Trumpers thump their chests, but with the

00:42:09.400 Democrats swiftly becoming an anti-American, anti-freedom, anti-prosperity party, we need

00:42:14.700 Trump to win in 2020. So it's wise to ask how much jerk is too much jerk. We'll ask on the Andrew

00:42:20.580 Klavan show. I'm Andrew Klavan.

The Matt Walsh Show - July 15, 2019

Ep. 295 - Trump Bails Out The Democrats Again

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