The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 297 - Squad Member Makes Outrageously Bigoted Statement

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, the left continues to eat itself.

00:00:03.420 Now the president of Planned Parenthood has been kicked to the curb for the crime of believing

00:00:07.980 that only women can get pregnant. Also, Ayanna Pressley, one of the members of the squad, 1.00

00:00:13.200 made one of the most bigoted statements we've heard from an American politician

00:00:16.900 in many decades, and that is not an exaggeration. I'll play the clip and talk about it today.

00:00:21.740 And I asked a left-wing doctor to define the word man for me, and he couldn't do it.

00:00:28.560 So we'll talk about that exchange today also on the Matt Wall Show.

00:00:35.920 Now this is just perfect in so many ways. I know that I'm always pointing out crazy stuff the left

00:00:42.720 is doing and saying, well, see, this shows where we are as a society. But that's my impression of

00:00:49.460 myself. This is where we are as a society. That's Matt Walsh as Matt Walsh. But this really does show

00:00:57.460 you. This is amazing. The president of Planned Parenthood, Leanna Nguyen, was ousted from her 0.66

00:01:02.220 job yesterday, fired, aborted after only 10 months, terminated. Though thankfully she was

00:01:10.300 terminated in a safe and legal environment. I'm sure she could take some solace in that. You

00:01:14.460 wouldn't want to have any back alley firings. You wouldn't want to fire someone. You want to be

00:01:20.040 fired in an office, in a clean, safe place, rather than in a back alley. And certainly rather than

00:01:28.960 with a coat hanger. But she's gone. And honestly, I couldn't be happier that she lost her job. I think

00:01:36.360 it's a wonderful thing that she lost her job. Well-deserved. And it's also best for her, I think.

00:01:43.580 It's best that she lose that job, maybe try to recover whatever is left of her soul. But listen

00:01:50.120 to the reason she was fired. A reporter, Emma O'Connor, reports that Wen was given the boot

00:01:59.400 because she's not extreme enough or aggressive enough. She's not radical enough. I mean, this is 1.00

00:02:05.900 a woman who was willing and eager to take on a job, did take on a job, at Planned Parenthood, where she's 1.00

00:02:12.000 overseeing the butchery of 300,000 children a year. Anyone who's willing to do that, anyone who wants

00:02:17.040 to do that, would have to be a radical extremist, militant, abortion fanatic. And she is, but not 0.99

00:02:25.540 enough for Planned Parenthood, apparently. And O'Connor reported this last night. Here's one issue where

00:02:33.900 they apparently differed. It says, two sources told us that Wen also refused to use trans-inclusive

00:02:41.240 language. For example, saying people instead of women, telling staff that she believed talking

00:02:46.340 about transgender issues would isolate people in the Midwest. I mean, my God, they really got rid of 1.00

00:02:53.460 her because she wouldn't renounce her belief in biology. Well, her partial belief in biology,

00:03:00.760 she already would have told you that unborn children aren't people. So she already rejected

00:03:06.900 partially biology. But whatever was left of her belief in science had to go out the window. And she

00:03:13.420 wasn't willing to do that, so they got rid of her. Modern leftism is truly an insane cult. It is utterly 0.78

00:03:20.280 insane. The doctrines it requires you to believe are just maniacal. And we'll talk more about pregnant 1.00

00:03:28.580 men in a few minutes, actually. But I just wanted to bring this to your attention because it's

00:03:34.420 incredible. And it proves yet again, something I've been talking about for months, the victim hierarchy

00:03:40.220 on the left, the LGBT cabal reigns supreme. They take priority. All of their demands must be met, 0.89

00:03:50.040 no matter what, without exception. Whatever they want, they get. Whatever they say goes. They are the

00:03:56.360 uber victims. They are the head honchos in terms of victimization. So much so that a minority woman 1.00

00:04:08.460 can be fired from her job for refusing to pay homage to men who dress like women. It is remarkable 1.00

00:04:16.540 that if the LGBT folks tell you that you have to renounce science, science is evil, science is bad, 0.95

00:04:25.920 you're not allowed to talk about science. If the LGBT folks tell you that, it doesn't matter if 1.00

00:04:30.280 you're a minority woman. If you refuse, you're getting kicked out. All right, so I wanted to 1.00

00:04:36.000 tell you about that. As I said, we'll get back to pregnant men in a minute. But before we do, 0.77

00:04:43.520 Representative Ayanna Pressley is sort of the Ringo Starr of the squad, the squad that consists of AOC 0.82

00:04:52.020 and Omar and Tlaib, the ones that have been feuding with President Trump, well, and with Nancy

00:04:59.660 Pelosi and with everybody else. Ayanna Pressley, kind of, she's the, yeah, the Ringo Starr, the Joey

00:05:06.380 Fatone, if you will, of the squad, kind of. Well, maybe that's not fair to Joey Fatone. I think Joey

00:05:10.900 Fatone was, he was, you know, he had personality. And I think he was a lot of people's maybe second

00:05:16.640 favorite NSYNC member. So I think Ayanna Pressley is more, she's nobody's favorite squad member. You 0.97

00:05:24.420 kind of forget that she's there. So she's more, who's the other NSYNC guy with the goatee that

00:05:30.080 nobody knew who he was or no one remembers him. No one knew what his function was. Anyway,

00:05:36.720 so she's kind of that. But they've all been in spasms of outrage over President Trump's stupid 1.00

00:05:42.580 tweet that we've talked about. But as they, as they continue to express their outrage, 1.00

00:05:48.920 we have to bear in mind that when it comes to denouncing bigotry, none of these four women have

00:05:53.840 a leg to stand on, especially Pressley, who now owns what I believe is one of the most outrageously

00:06:00.240 bigoted statements that we have heard from an American politician in several decades. Speaking

00:06:06.820 at a, you know, Joe Biden said yesterday that President Trump said the most racist thing that

00:06:13.940 any president has ever said, which of course is completely insane. And I pointed out at least one

00:06:19.860 extremely racist thing that a president said that was certainly way worse than any tweet that President

00:06:25.220 Trump has sent. But this really is, and I'm not saying this is the most racist thing, the most racist

00:06:31.600 thing any politician has ever said in America, but it is one of the most bigoted in the last few

00:06:36.500 decades at least. Speaking at a progressive political convention a few days ago, Pressley

00:06:41.420 launched into a diatribe that if she belonged to a different political party or a different race,

00:06:51.180 or certainly both, it would end her career. But instead, given her political party and her race, 0.71

00:06:57.320 it, um, and her gender too, doesn't hurt. It, it prompted exuberant applause from the audience, 1.00

00:07:03.660 but it is so extraordinarily bigoted. I want you to watch this.

00:07:08.580 Yes, I do quote Shirley Chisholm a lot, who said, if they don't give you a seat to the table,

00:07:12.660 bring your own folding chair. But I've amended that because I don't want to bring a chair to an

00:07:18.200 old table. This is the time to shake the table. This is the time to redefine that table.

00:07:26.300 Because if you're going to come to this table, and for all of you that have aspirations of running

00:07:30.740 for office, for whatever lived experience and identity that you represent, if you are not

00:07:36.560 prepared to come to that table, and to represent that voice, don't come. Because we don't need

00:07:43.800 any more brown faces that don't want to be a brown voice. We don't need black faces that don't want 1.00

00:07:50.500 to be a black voice. We don't need Muslims that don't want to be a Muslim voice. We don't need 1.00

00:07:54.820 queers that don't want to be a queer voice. And if you're worried about being marginalized and 0.91

00:08:04.580 stereotyped, please don't even show up. Because we need you to represent that voice. The midterm

00:08:13.120 election of 2018, they spoke a lot about each of our magic. I would never give short shrift to any

00:08:18.180 of our magic. But this is work. And we put it in every day. Now, someone who is not well acquainted

00:08:25.400 with liberal speak may be more confused than horrified by those comments. Because you think,

00:08:32.640 well, what is a brown voice? What is a what is a black voice? What is a do voices have colors? What

00:08:38.480 do you mean brown black voice? What she means, of course, is that a brown or black person should have

00:08:45.720 the opinions that are properly representative of their racial communities. And what she means by

00:08:50.660 properly representative of their racial communities is that their opinion should be resoundingly leftist. 0.98

00:08:56.020 So put more simply, Presley is telling brown, black, Muslim, and gay people to keep their trap shut 0.97

00:09:02.680 if they aren't going to conform to her ideological expectations. You're not needed, she says. You're not 0.99

00:09:09.400 needed. I mean, that's worse than saying keep your trap shut. You're not needed. We don't need,

00:09:14.180 you are just an unneeded person. Your whole existence, certainly your opinions are, we don't

00:09:20.340 need them, shut up. That is such a, it's such a demeaning thing to say. And she is making these 0.99

00:09:27.780 statements about, on racial and ethnic lines. So leftists like Presley feel perfectly entitled

00:09:36.880 to issue these directives, um, authoritatively sort of instructing the plebs as to what they may and

00:09:44.940 may not say and what they may and may not think based on the demographic and identity groups to

00:09:49.600 which they belong. Her talk of brown voices is pretty telling because she doesn't see brown, black, 0.97

00:09:55.340 Muslim, quote, queer people as distinct individuals with their own voices than their own perspectives and

00:10:00.700 opinions. She sees them as monoliths. These groups are monoliths. And every member of the group is a

00:10:08.820 mindless, faceless representative of the whole. And the whole, Presley has decided, must vote Democrat,

00:10:15.940 must support things like abortion, affirmative action, universal healthcare, must affirm every

00:10:21.240 last leftist doctrine without exception. And if they don't, if they fall outside of the ideological box

00:10:26.300 that Presley has created, they are anathema. At best, they're useless. At worst, they are, 0.99

00:10:32.060 they are heretics who should be burned at the stake or bludgeoned to death with a crowbar as is Antifa's 1.00

00:10:38.220 preferred method. Now this is way worse than just your sort of simple-minded run-of-the-mill bigotry 1.00

00:10:49.840 because a run-of-the-mill bigot will, will feel that his race or, um, or ethnic group is superior

00:10:56.200 to others. He's going to be sort of tribalistic, um, and, and, and have this feeling of superiority.

00:11:02.200 That's, that is your average everyday bigotry. And it is a stupid and harmful view to be sure, 1.00

00:11:10.280 to be bigoted in that way is stupid and harmful, but it's child's play compared to the sort of bigotry 1.00

00:11:16.500 that Presley is promoting here. She wants to erase the individual and live in a world consisting 1.00

00:11:24.020 only of these homogenous, amorphic identities where every person is but a mere mouthpiece for

00:11:31.020 an ethnic hive mind. It is, it is a bigotry far more insidious, insidious, far more horrifying 0.90

00:11:37.860 than the kind of bigotry that she constantly and often fallaciously seems to find in the hearts of

00:11:45.180 other people. It is, it is, I, I, I cannot even put into words how gross, how, uh, degrading,

00:11:54.300 how demeaning this is that she would sit there and say, like, if you, if you are in this identity,

00:12:03.240 if you, if you are this race or this ethnicity, here are the opinions you're allowed to have.

00:12:07.980 Otherwise, we don't need you. Um, by the way,

00:12:16.100 do you think, imagine if a Republican ever made a statement that began with the phrase,

00:12:26.960 we don't need queers. That's what she just said. Um, we don't need queers. And then, 1.00

00:12:34.040 but now she qualified it and she explained what sort of quote unquote queers we don't need, 0.99

00:12:39.140 but it doesn't matter. I mean, there's, there's, there's no way to end that statement

00:12:45.020 that is going to make it non-bigoted. And do you think there's any way a Republican could ever say

00:12:51.600 that? It doesn't matter how they end it. It doesn't matter what they say next. You make that

00:12:56.920 you're done. You're finished forever. If you say, but she, as a liberal Democrat can actually say

00:13:03.020 that she can actually get up there and say, she can say, well, here are the, the kinds of quote

00:13:09.060 unquote queers we need. And if you're not in that, we don't need you get out. I mean, it's, 1.00

00:13:14.520 it's amazing. And she gets away with it. Nobody even on the left, they don't even think to have a

00:13:21.280 problem with it. Um, Oh my, Oh my goodness. It, it, of course, it goes without saying if Donald

00:13:28.600 Trump were ever to say anything like that, to start to explain, like, listen, um, if you're a 0.95

00:13:35.360 black person, uh, and you're not conservative, we don't need you get out. You're not, we don't need 1.00

00:13:40.340 you at the table. Can you betcha? I can't even, can you imagine him? What would have happened if he

00:13:44.740 said that yet again, if you're on the left, you can say stuff like that all the time and nobody bats an

00:13:50.180 eye. It's, it's all right. Um, so let's go back to men having babies, shall we? A radical left-wing 0.90

00:13:57.900 doctor named Eugene Gu, uh, tweeted a few days ago and he was explaining, well, I'll, I'll read what

00:14:06.280 he, what he tweeted. He said, it is a scientific and medical fact that men can get pregnant and also

00:14:13.940 have abortions. Trans men and non-binary individuals are human beings who deserve to be acknowledged by

00:14:19.160 society. They choose their own identity, not me, not you, not any doctor, and certainly not any

00:14:23.880 politician. Well, of course I agree that I, that I don't choose their identity. Doctors and politicians

00:14:28.720 don't either. Biology chooses their identity. Uh, that's, that's nature chooses it, but he says a

00:14:38.240 scientific and medical fact. Okay. This is a doctor saying it is a scientific and medical fact that

00:14:44.740 men can have babies. Well, if you've listened to this show for a while, you know, that I've argued 0.84

00:14:51.700 that the entire case for transgenderism can be defeated, completely debunked. Of course it can 1.00

00:14:58.400 be debunked in any number of ways because it's just without scientific basis whatsoever, but you can

00:15:05.180 easily defeat it, easily debunk it. You can easily shut down anyone who begins to justify it or argue for

00:15:12.160 it. Um, and you can shut it down, not by shouting at them, not by insulting them, but really by asking

00:15:18.020 them a question, a very fair, very necessary, elementary, fundamental question. All you have to

00:15:26.500 do is ask them very simply, what is a man? Or of course, alternatively, what is a woman? Either one 0.52

00:15:33.740 will do. In this case, he says, men can have babies. What is a man? Extremely fair question. 1.00

00:15:45.760 So I've been asking this question of leftists for months and, um, not one, not a single one

00:15:52.620 has been able to provide anything close to a definition. I put it out on there on Twitter.

00:15:57.300 I've said it on the show. I've written an article saying, listen, if you're a leftist,

00:16:02.420 you believe that transgenderism is a, is a legitimate thing. This is it. Just, just what, 0.99

00:16:07.020 what's a, what's a man? What's a woman? Just give me a definition. That's all I'm asking for. 0.82

00:16:13.400 And so far, not a single one has been able to provide a definition.

00:16:17.780 So I decided to, um, try this again. And lest anyone accuse me of only picking on the dumbest 0.98

00:16:24.600 common denominators on the left, I decided to go toe to toe here with a doctor. This is a doctor. 0.98

00:16:29.680 He's a surgeon. Um, he, uh, he, he, he's, he obviously holds some rather, um, let's say eccentric

00:16:39.220 views, but he did go to medical school and, um, I, he, he certainly knows more about medicine than I

00:16:45.760 do. Let's hope he's a surgeon. So I said, uh, you know, I'll throw this. If anyone can answer,

00:16:51.960 if anyone in that camp who believes in this stuff, if anyone can answer it and, you know,

00:16:57.040 really shut me down and, and, and then this should be the guy, right? So, um, I tweeted him

00:17:04.920 in response. I said, uh, this is what I said. I said, doctor, what is a man? Please provide a

00:17:10.320 definition. Thank you. He responded to me credit to him, at least for responding. And he said,

00:17:17.340 some define a man as a person who is genetically male with a Y chromosome, but some intersects

00:17:23.320 individuals with a Y chromosome can have female sexual characteristics and even give birth.

00:17:28.020 Some say a man is anyone who identifies as a man, regardless of female sexual characteristics.

00:17:33.960 So that was his first attempt at an answer, but that's not an answer. He's not giving me a

00:17:39.160 definition. So it's already concerning here that this is a doctor. And I said, what is a man?

00:17:43.700 And he couldn't just give me a straightforward answer. Should be the, should be the easiest

00:17:47.220 thing for him to answer as a doctor or just as a, as a, as a literate adult. My, my six-year-old

00:17:52.820 could answer that question. What he just said there is not an answer. He's just telling me what

00:17:58.480 some people say. Okay. If you, if you look up at the definition of a word in a dictionary,

00:18:05.000 the definition is not going to begin with some people think, or some people say, it doesn't

00:18:09.740 matter what people say, what's the definition. So the first definition, the first potential

00:18:15.720 definition he mentions is of course, correct, but that's not his definition. He's just acknowledging

00:18:22.360 that that definition exists yet. That's not the one that he goes with. He has specifically

00:18:28.800 rejected and denounced that definition in his original tweet. He said that men can have

00:18:33.320 babies. So the first definition he mentions, that's not his. The second definition he mentions

00:18:39.020 is not a definition is not a definition at all. Okay. Um, and you know, a man was a man is anyone

00:18:50.360 who identifies as a man. Well, that's not a definition. You can't use the word you're defining

00:18:57.420 in the definition. You can't do that. That's what is a classic fallacy there. You cannot do that.

00:19:03.580 It doesn't, that's circular. If I ask you a definition of an apple, you can't say an apple

00:19:09.020 is an apple. I mean, an apple is an apple, of course, but that's not a definition. That's just

00:19:12.440 a, that's a, it's a circular statement. Um, so, uh, I tried again and I asked, what is the thing they

00:19:20.920 are identifying as? You say a man, a man is anyone who identifies as a man. Okay. Well, what is that

00:19:26.600 though? I guess they're identifying as a man. What is that thing? And I said, don't just say man

00:19:31.920 again, you have to tell me what a man actually is, or do you not know? He responds. I define a man

00:19:39.600 as anyone who identifies as a man. Gender is a social construct. And even though humans are a

00:19:43.960 sexually dimorphic species in a, in a bimodal distribution, biological sex does exist on a

00:19:49.160 spectrum with intersex individuals who are 1.7% of the population in between. This again is not a

00:19:55.040 definition. It's like the, it's like defining circle as anything that looks like a circle, which of

00:20:00.880 course is wrong because you're using circle in the definition. It's a circular definition of circle.

00:20:07.240 And also it's possible for something to look like a circle without actually being one. Okay. Your eyes

00:20:12.880 can deceive you depending on what the angle you're looking at. It's possible you think something's a

00:20:16.400 circle and you get, you get a closer look. It's not a circle. It's an oval or it's a, you know,

00:20:19.660 it's a, or it's just, it's a, uh, an uneven sort of circle like object, but not a circle.

00:20:25.940 So I responded to him. I said, you still haven't told me what a man is. You've just told me that

00:20:31.380 anyone who says they are one is one, which, which is absurd, of course, but also it's not a

00:20:35.560 definition. When someone identifies as a man, what are they identifying as? What is a man? You

00:20:42.320 haven't defined it yet. So we go back and forth a few more times. I'm not going to read all of them.

00:20:46.540 He keeps, he keeps insisting that he gave me a definition. And, uh, and I try to explain over and

00:20:51.940 over again, that his definition is obviously circular and tautological and therefore invalid.

00:20:56.800 Finally, he offers this, and this is his last word on the subject is the last thing he said.

00:21:01.880 This is the closest thing to a definition that he gives me again, to remind you, this is a doctor.

00:21:06.620 Okay. Uh, he says, you want me, or he says, you want to define a man as a human with a Y chromosome,

00:21:14.000 external, uh, external male genitals, male gonads that produce sperm has more testosterone than

00:21:19.300 estrogen and does not have any female reproductive structures. I say a man is anyone who identifies

00:21:24.560 that way, including trans and intersex. And that's it. He doesn't respond anymore.

00:21:32.400 That's his definition as a doctor. So let's delve into this a bit here. A man is a human with a Y

00:21:40.600 chromosome, external male genitals, male gonads that produce sperm, uh, and does not have any female

00:21:46.080 reproductive structures. Yes. Good. Exactly. That part. Yes. That's exactly what a man is.

00:21:51.460 That's a man. Okay. That's a man, baby. You got it. But then he says, he, he, he throws all that

00:21:58.700 away because then he says, or anyone who identifies that way. Wait a second. What now? Now, and see,

00:22:06.500 this is really interesting because normally leftists would say that identifying as a man or a woman,

00:22:13.100 they talk about identifying as a man or a woman. They don't usually want to explain what that

00:22:20.300 actually means. They just say, it's like, well, what do you mean identify as that? What does that

00:22:25.000 mean? Explain to me what that means. It does not have a self-evident meaning to say that someone is

00:22:31.860 something, but they identify as something else. Therefore, what do you mean identify as that?

00:22:36.680 Um, and so I think generally, although they are very hesitant and we're seeing why, uh, they're very

00:22:44.220 hesitant to explain what they mean, but I think generally in a vague way, they mean it in a, in an

00:22:49.300 emotional, spiritual kind of way where in some mysterious sense, uh, a person is, is, is one sex,

00:22:58.540 but sort of has the mind of another sex. Um, and so that's what it means. It, again, it's very vague and,

00:23:05.760 and, and, and, uh, and fluid for them. It doesn't, I don't think they spend a lot of time thinking

00:23:09.640 about it. It's not well formed, but that's basically what they mean when they talk, talk

00:23:14.560 about identifying as a man or a woman. But Dr. Gu knows that, that he can't say that, that can't be

00:23:21.580 the definition. There is nothing remotely or scientifically, there's nothing remotely

00:23:25.060 scientific or medical about that. That is religious. That is an almost religious cult-like,

00:23:30.980 um, concept, right? This whole idea of, uh, well, a man trapped in a woman's body or a woman trapped

00:23:38.580 in a man's body, that is intensely religious. It's not a religion I subscribe to, but that is, 0.91

00:23:44.400 there's no science there. There's one kind of person trapped in another person's body.

00:23:49.240 Now you're getting into things like souls and spirits, and that's the only way to read that.

00:23:55.260 There's no way to read that in a scientific way. So, um, he says, so he can't say that. Instead,

00:24:04.120 he says that a man is a biological male with a Y chromosome and male reproductive organs,

00:24:08.200 or anyone who identifies as having a Y chromosome and male reproductive organs.

00:24:15.780 But how can you identify as having a certain chromosome? What the hell can that possibly mean?

00:24:22.960 And even if you do identify as having a chromosome, um, even if a person could somehow feel like they

00:24:28.800 have a Y chromosome, even though, you know, I don't know what chromosomes feel like, so I don't,

00:24:33.560 what does that, what does that mean? But even if they identify as having it, yet they don't have it,

00:24:39.980 then isn't that the end of the discussion? You know, sometimes people can think things that

00:24:46.940 aren't true. It happens all the time. It's not a complicated concept. People can think that if

00:24:52.060 something is a certain way and they're just wrong. So that's the other option here. When you say,

00:24:57.280 well, what do you mean? There are people like that. They're wrong. It's, that's it. We could talk

00:25:02.120 about why they're wrong. We could talk about what's going on psychologically. They think something that

00:25:06.960 isn't true. If, if you're telling me, oh, well, they identify as having a Y chromosome. Okay,

00:25:10.800 well, let's do a test. Do they have one? No. Well, then they don't. That's it. It has no bearing

00:25:16.120 on the definition. But Gu says that, uh, um, being a man depends on the biological physical reality

00:25:25.520 of having a certain chromosome. Yet, if you don't physically have it, but feel like you do,

00:25:32.000 then suddenly you do. How does that work? Does the chromosome magically materialize in some invisible

00:25:38.980 and spiritual way just because you feel like you have one? Or does the definition all of a sudden,

00:25:43.300 uh, uh, get suspended in your case because your feelings override it? But if that's the case,

00:25:49.220 then haven't you just gotten rid of the definition completely? Aren't you really saying a man is

00:25:53.680 anyone with male reproductive organs and a Y chromosome or not? Isn't that really what,

00:25:58.860 what Gu is saying here? A man is this or not that either way, which is another way of saying a man is

00:26:07.820 anything, which is another way of saying, um, the word man has no definition. And that at the end of

00:26:14.640 the day is what they really believe. Okay. It's, it's what they want to say that these words have no

00:26:21.840 definition. Now, leftists, they don't like definitions. Definitions are limiting their objective.

00:26:27.820 They, they impose themselves on you. You're not able to make them up as you go along. So they don't

00:26:33.660 like it, especially from a relativistic standpoint, the, the one thing you hate the most is a

00:26:38.400 definition. So you want to get rid of them, but they can't really say that these words have no

00:26:45.860 definition because if the word man doesn't mean anything, then it doesn't mean anything for a

00:26:53.020 woman to identify as one. You see, that's the problem. If we're saying that, oh, well, a man is 1.00

00:26:57.600 any, it's a fluid concept. It doesn't really mean it. Well, then what does it mean for a woman to say

00:27:02.880 she is one? Then that statement has no meaning. Then for her to say she's a man is exactly the

00:27:08.860 same thing as her saying she's a woman, which, why are we calling her a man then? Why, what's

00:27:12.460 the whole point of this? If the word man has no meaning, then it's nonsensical for a woman to say 0.99

00:27:19.400 that she is one. But if it does have a meaning, then it's also nonsensical for a woman to say that 0.85

00:27:25.200 she is one. Leftists lose either way with this and they know it or the smart one, smart ones know it

00:27:31.820 anyway. The other problem is if these words have no definition, if they don't mean anything,

00:27:38.160 then identity politics goes out the window. It's a very weird thing with leftists where on one hand,

00:27:42.900 they want to make everything fluid. They want to put everything on a spectrum. They want to say

00:27:45.660 nothing means anything. There are no definitions. On the other hand, they want to emphasize these

00:27:53.900 differences and these definitions for the purposes of identity politics. So they can constantly say,

00:27:58.360 well, you belong in that group. Therefore, you should think this and do that. You belong in that

00:28:02.180 group over there. So therefore, you should think this and do that. So they want to do both at the

00:28:05.920 same time. They want to put everyone on a spectrum, blend everyone together, while at the same time

00:28:10.620 dividing everyone very harshly, in a very defined way, and then make up rules for people's groups based

00:28:23.700 on that. They're trying to do both, and you can't do both. So where are we left? Well, we still have no

00:28:33.320 definition. Dr. Gu, a doctor, could not define the word man, a word that, again, my six-year-old could

00:28:40.780 define because his ideology will not allow it. Defining man as a biological male or anyone who identifies as

00:28:51.100 being a biological male is exactly like defining Mark Zuckerberg as the current CEO of Facebook or anyone

00:28:58.100 who feels like they are the current CEO of Facebook, which means that Mark Zuckerberg is either Mark Zuckerberg

00:29:04.840 or anyone. That's what it means, which means that he is no one in particular. That is not a definition. That is

00:29:13.080 an anti-definition. That is the exact opposite of a definition. So we have a man, which is a certain

00:29:24.140 thing, and then we have people who are not men, yet think they are. That's a completely separate thing

00:29:33.960 because those people identifying as a man, in order for them to do so, they can only do that if the word

00:29:44.560 man has a solid objective definition. So whatever they are, however we define those people, that

00:29:53.400 definition depends inherently on the word man having itself an objective, solid, non-negotiable

00:30:01.720 definition. But if it does have that sort of definition, then whatever you call those other

00:30:06.920 people over here, you can't call them men. There's something else. You can call them whatever you

00:30:11.500 want. Call them trans, call them whatever you want to call them. You can call them. You just can't call 1.00

00:30:16.480 them a man. One last point. Dr. Gu kept bringing up intersex people. He kept saying, well, it's intersex

00:30:25.580 people. This is completely irrelevant. And this is a move you're going to see from leftists all the

00:30:31.360 time on this where they say, oh, what about intersex? Intersex people are irrelevant to this

00:30:36.400 discussion for two reasons. Number one, an intersex person, and these are very rare that you have

00:30:42.800 intersex people, but, uh, goose has 1.7%. It's not that high, but even that is very low. So intersex 1.00

00:30:51.840 person, they do not prove that biological sex is on a spectrum. Um, they don't prove that. An intersex 0.99

00:31:02.360 person is a person whose biological sex is harder to identify just by looking. This is someone who

00:31:11.140 externally, physically, their biological sex is going to be more ambiguous because of mutations,

00:31:16.900 because something went wrong. This is someone who suffers from a mutation, from a deformity.

00:31:21.560 There's an illness here. There's this, this is a, this is an aberration, but that doesn't mean they

00:31:27.960 don't have a biological sex. You could still, you could still determine it through a, through a DNA test.

00:31:33.340 Um, you could still find out what their biological sex is. It's just harder to with, with almost 0.89

00:31:38.420 everyone, you could tell what they are just by looking at them with, with intersex, with so-called 0.99

00:31:43.160 intersex people. It's harder to tell just by looking. And so you might have to dive deeper as 0.99

00:31:47.600 it were. Second point, even if I were to concede that intersex people somehow exist on a spectrum

00:31:56.720 and they're in between man and woman, and they're sort of neither, they're a separate thing. I don't

00:32:01.460 concede that, but if I did, it would have nothing. It had, it has no bearing at all on trans people

00:32:06.320 because a trans man is a biological woman who says she's a man who identifies as a man. A trans woman

00:32:16.280 is a biological man who identifies as a woman. If it was an intersex person, we wouldn't call them 1.00

00:32:20.440 trans. We just say they're intersex. So trans is a completely separate category. So if we were to 0.88

00:32:28.100 establish that intersex people biologically, physically are, are, you know, there's something

00:32:33.700 else going on with them that doesn't change anything with trans people. These two things

00:32:38.280 aren't related because with a trans person, again, we know biologically, we know what they 0.98

00:32:44.660 are. That's not ambiguous. So it's just, it's a completely irrelevant point. All right. And,

00:32:56.020 and of course it's a self-defeating point because when you bring intersex people into it and you're 1.00

00:33:01.780 saying, well, yeah, look at them. I mean, biologically, there's some different stuff

00:33:04.680 going on. Okay. So are you now conceding then that in order for a person, you know, to that

00:33:11.860 you're conceding that the biology does matter because if it does, then that's going to disqualify

00:33:18.420 the trans people. But if you're saying, no, no, no, well, biology still doesn't matter. Okay.

00:33:22.880 If that's the case, then why are you bringing up intersex people at all? All right, let's, 1.00

00:33:27.360 we'll get to emails. Well, before we get to emails, one other thing quickly, you know,

00:33:30.940 I don't usually get into all the apps and who's he, what's it's that the kids use these days,

00:33:35.360 but on their infernal cellular device contraptions. But someone did tell me about this thing called

00:33:43.340 face app where you can upload a picture of yourself or anyone, and then you can age it or do whatever

00:33:48.940 you want to, to, to change it and to try out a bunch of new looks, right. In a virtual setting.

00:33:54.300 So I did, I was bored last night. I did give it a shot. And you know, I, I, I found a look for

00:34:01.020 myself that I'm just putting it out there because I want to get your opinion. I re I honestly, I think

00:34:06.100 I might go with it in real life. Um, but I want to kind of get a feel for the room here. So I'm going

00:34:12.860 to show you this and you tell me, should I go with this look or not? Watch, look at this here. Um, so there

00:34:18.180 it is. What do you think that honestly, let's just be honest here. I look amazing in that picture.

00:34:24.720 That's I just do the mustache with the stubble, the long flowing locks. I look like I used to sing

00:34:30.560 for the Bee Gees, but then I got addicted to crack. And, uh, so I got kicked out and then eventually I

00:34:36.720 cleaned myself up and started writing erotic fiction novels while working part-time at a Spencer's

00:34:41.320 Gifts in San Diego. Um, which is to say it's a great look. And, uh, I really, I don't know if I can

00:34:48.960 get my hair to that point where it would be so, uh, magnificent, but, uh, I can try anyway. All right.

00:34:55.080 Let's do a few emails. MattWalshow at gmail.com. MattWalshow at gmail.com. This is from Elise says,

00:35:01.220 hi, Matt, because I volunteer in children's ministry and youth group at my church, I've been exposed to

00:35:06.500 all different kinds of schooling, including methods I never knew existed, like unschooling, which

00:35:10.600 quote encourages exploration of activities initiated by the children themselves, believing

00:35:15.140 that the more personal learning is the more meaningful, well understood, and therefore useful to the

00:35:19.200 child. While courses may occasionally be taken, unschooling questions the usefulness of standard

00:35:24.160 curricula, conventional grading methods, and other features of traditional schooling. She's quoting

00:35:28.560 now from, uh, that's from Wikipedia. I first thought it was kind of free range homeschooling, but the more

00:35:33.340 I learn about it, the less similar it seems. I'm not sure what to think about it. While unschooling can

00:35:39.120 equip kids to handle certain real life situations better than their peers, I see some of them falling

00:35:44.540 behind in academic areas like reading and math. It's awesome that they're able to fully engage in

00:35:49.360 their, their interests. And I often hear that unschooling allows for kids to learn things.

00:35:53.660 Normal school wouldn't give time to, but, um, I questioned the balance and apparent lack of

00:35:59.680 structure. I also know kids can learn things not traditionally taught in school without unschooling.

00:36:03.900 Do you have any experience with, or thoughts on unschooling? Um, yeah, I, I, uh, I understand

00:36:13.240 the philosophy behind it. And I agree in many ways with the philosophy that a lot of kids learn better,

00:36:24.980 maybe all kids in some ways learn better in a non-structured environment when they're able to

00:36:29.320 pursue their own interests. Um, and, uh, so it's sort of an unschooling lesson would be, it's like

00:36:37.760 when I, if we're going on a hike with my kids in the woods and they'll just pick up random leaves and

00:36:43.980 bugs and point out random trees and sort of ask about them. And we'll, as we go along, we'll tell

00:36:49.940 them, well, that's what that is. And so we're talking and learning and walking and we're in nature

00:36:53.760 and it becomes a kind of, uh, lesson in biology and, and, and, and things like that.

00:37:03.260 So that's unschooling. And I think that's very important for kids. And I also agree that the

00:37:08.200 modern curricula that you find in public schools are, um, often counterproductive and, uh, and, and

00:37:15.640 ineffective. And I think even harmful to some kids, which is why a lot of kids have to be drugged

00:37:23.100 basically have to be, have to be sedated with drugs in order to sit there and, and re just

00:37:30.600 regurgitate the information that they're told. That's what most curricula consist of these days.

00:37:36.400 So I agree with all that, but I also do think that kids need a more structured environment to learn

00:37:43.660 as well. I think that the unschooling thing sets up a false dichotomy where it's like, we have to

00:37:51.460 choose between, well, do they learn in an unstructured way or do they learn in a structured

00:37:55.440 way? Well, kids, they can do both. You have the structured school setting and I'm all about

00:38:01.120 homeschooling. I think homeschooling is great. Um, that's what we do for our kids, but that's a

00:38:07.840 structured environment. There's an actual curriculum that you follow. Then also though, they, they are,

00:38:13.600 they're also being unschooled all the time. I mean, constantly, if you have young kids are always

00:38:18.600 asking questions, they're very curious, they're exploring. And so you do that too. So that's my

00:38:23.240 point. I think, I think unschooling is great, but there's no reason why it has to replace

00:38:28.440 a structured academic environment, which I think kids also need and will benefit from as long as

00:38:34.740 it's structured in the right way. So if we point, if we observe that, that school is often structured

00:38:41.620 wrongly, I don't think the correct response is, well, it shouldn't be structured at all.

00:38:46.420 It's like, if you're in a building and, um, it, it was, you noticed that the structure is wrong.

00:38:53.060 It was built the wrong way. Well, that's a, that's a good argument for repairing it for

00:38:59.000 rebuilding it even, but that's not an argument for getting rid of buildings completely.

00:39:05.400 All right. This is from Tony says, Hey, Matt, love the show. Um, on last Thursday show, you

00:39:10.480 discussed public shaming in relation to the gentleman at the bagel shop that was mocked for his height.

00:39:14.460 You brought up good and bad public shaming and the prospect of someone who is,

00:39:18.860 or may be mentally unstable or having issues subsequently committing suicide after being

00:39:23.280 publicly shamed. A recent example of this that has gone rather unnoticed might fit your theory.

00:39:29.000 A 70 year old runner committed suicide days after being disqualified for the LA marathon after a series

00:39:34.540 of articles were written detailing that he cheated while running the race. Um, he put, he posted the

00:39:40.020 fastest time in the LA marathon history for his age group, uh, marathon investigation researched and

00:39:46.460 investigated his result, determined he cheated, and he was subsequently disqualified. He remained

00:39:52.140 defiant in defending the allegation only, only to commit suicide days later. The articles accusing him

00:39:57.740 of cheating were published online and posted on various social media and were of course met with

00:40:02.580 all sorts of comments, criticism, and public shaming. I'm interested to hear your take on this.

00:40:06.480 Does this fall under the category of good public shaming or bad public shaming? Have we come too

00:40:11.020 far when it comes to social media and public shaming? I'm also happy to discuss this with you in

00:40:14.980 more detail. Um, uh, so yeah, I do think, as I said, that we have come too far in many ways with public

00:40:23.360 shaming, um, or maybe not too far. It's just, we've gone in the wrong direction where we publicly shame

00:40:29.260 people who don't need it and where it's not appropriate. So a guy who has a, uh, essentially

00:40:34.780 a mental breakdown, I don't think he needs to be publicly shamed for that. Now this person, I'm not

00:40:39.640 familiar with this case at all. I don't know anything about it, but if somebody, and I don't

00:40:45.540 even know if he really did cheat, but if someone did cheat or something and they, and they're guilty

00:40:49.600 of that, and then that information is reported and they tragically commit suicide later. No, I,

00:40:57.840 I don't think I wouldn't even call that public shaming. If you do something like cheat on a

00:41:03.520 major marathon, it's going to make the news. It's it, it is a newsworthy event, especially if

00:41:08.980 you're an older person. And you know, if, if you made the news by winning and then it turns out you

00:41:14.540 cheated, then that is also going to make the news. That's completely normal and justified. And then if

00:41:19.700 that person goes and commit suicide, I think that's someone who it's a tragic thing, but that's someone

00:41:24.240 who feels ashamed of, um, of what they did, if he did in fact do it. And, uh, you know, there's all

00:41:32.900 kinds of things that go into it. And I would also say that if you're 70 years old and cheating on a

00:41:37.820 marathon, you're probably already troubled. It's not a normal thing to do. So I would say that's what

00:41:43.700 led to the suicide. Um, it's not public shaming. So again, if you, if you do something bad, which

00:41:52.380 is newsworthy and not all bad things are newsworthy, but if you do something that's bad, that is

00:41:58.120 newsworthy and it's reported by the news. And then you feel deeply ashamed. I, I, that's, I don't think

00:42:03.280 that's even, I wouldn't even qualify that as public shaming. Uh, that is simply a natural consequence

00:42:09.480 of the thing you did. All right. Um, what else we got here? I guess, well, a couple other emails,

00:42:19.720 it will be long answers. So I think we'll leave it there and, uh, we'll talk again tomorrow.

00:42:25.880 Thanks everybody for watching. Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - July 17, 2019

Ep. 297 - Squad Member Makes Outrageously Bigoted Statement

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