Ep. 306 - Donald Trump's Reverse Magnetism
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Today on the Matt Warshaw show, Democrats rush to the defense of Al Sharpton just a day after insisting that Baltimore is a wonderful and safe city. We ll talk about how the Democrats are managing to lose every argument with Trump because they insist on taking the extreme opposite position from whatever position he just took. Also, should cops be pulling people over to give out prizes for following the law? And a student is accused of sexual assault because he cajoled a woman into sex with flattery.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, Democrats rushed to the defense of Al Sharpton just a day after
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insisting that Baltimore is a wonderful and safe city. We'll talk about how the Democrats are
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managing to lose every argument with Trump because they insist on taking the extreme
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opposite position from whatever position he just took. Also, should cops be pulling people over to
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give out prizes for following the law? And a student is accused of sexual assault because
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he cajoled, quote unquote, a woman into sex with flattery. We'll talk about that madness today
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on the Matt Wall Show. Well, this is pretty good news, I think. I don't know if you guys heard
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about this, but actually, violence is ended. I'm not sure if you heard about that, but we ended
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violence. There is no more violence. Violence is done. So that's it. The hashtag end violence
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trended on Twitter last night. People were, it's a whole hashtag, a bunch of people were tweeting
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end violence. And I think the point these people were making is essentially what they were saying
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is, look, let's just end violence. People were basically arguing that, to sum up their position,
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um, maybe we could just not have violence. You know, maybe, maybe we could explore alternatives
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to violence. And, uh, and that did it. I mean, all the violent people in the world, everyone who was
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engaging in violence or planning to engage in violence, uh, they all stopped. They saw this
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hashtag and they stopped and they said, Oh, wait a second. You're saying I should not be violent.
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And then they slapped their heads and they kind of laughed and they said, wow, duh. Um, and, uh,
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and, and they threw down their guns and they took off their suicide vest. Um, and they went home to
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play Parcheesi. And that was, that was really the end of it. It was as simple as that. I myself had
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always been on really, if I, you know, to, to, to be honest, I was more on the keep violence end of the
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debate, um, until this hashtag. And I read some of the tweets and, and I thought, wow, these people
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really make an interesting point. And so even I changed my own position. Um, my only thing is if
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only someone had thought of this sooner, if only someone had thought to end violence sooner, I think
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we could have avoided, honestly, a lot of heartache, um, in our society. But anyway, at least we finally,
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after all these years, you know, we finally have, um, have made the change. So I think that's a
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really wonderful thing. Okay. Speaking of violence, Al Sharpton, um, well, he doesn't seem to be much of
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an end violence kind of guy. Uh, he has throughout his illustrious, is that the word for it? I'm not
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sure. Maybe I'll check my thesaurus. Um, some kind of career. He has stoked tension and, and violence
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and riots. He's promoted false rape claims. He's engaged in vicious antisemitism. Um, he has been
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generally a grifter and a hack who does nothing but exploit and lie and pander in the basest ways.
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Sharpton is kind of a fascinating character in a way because he's so straightforwardly vile and evil.
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It's just, he's, he's, there's, there appear to be very few layers to this guy. This is just,
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this is just what he is to his core. Um, and most people know it that's, he's kind of known for that.
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Like, I'm not sure if you could find anyone of any race or ideological persuasion who would say
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something positive about him. You know, um, this isn't just a typical partisan thing where people
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on one side say he's awful. And then people on the other side, like him, I've never heard anyone,
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um, any person who isn't on TV. I've just, I've never heard an average person in a discussion,
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um, sing his praises. I've never heard that. You, you, you're around any group of people.
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And if for some reason, Al Sharpton's name comes up every, it doesn't matter what the, what the,
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what the racial or, or ideological makeup of the crowd is, uh, everyone is, there's kind of that
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groan and that the rolling of the eyes. Um, and that makes sense because he's, he's transparently
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fraudulent. And that's why everyone tests him until this week, that is. And there's been a sudden
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of Baltimore because Trump criticized it. And next we have Democrats rushing to the defense
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of Al Sharpton because Trump criticized Al Sharpton. You know, Trump, uh, uh, sent out a bunch of tweets
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about Sharpton. Well, you know, that part of the story, I don't need to read the tweets. I'm sure
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you've heard about that. Um, and ever since then over the past day or so, uh, Democrat candidates
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like Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and others have come out to say what a wonderful guy Al Sharpton is.
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Um, and they know better of course, and they would never be so public and explicit in endorsing Al
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Sharpton who has more baggage than, you know, one of those luggage carousels at the airport,
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uh, except that Trump came out against him. That's why, that's why they're doing this.
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And here's, here's, here's the amazing thing. As many people have observed, um, the job of,
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for Democrats in 2020, their path to victory is really objectively easy, extremely easy and
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straightforward. As in they could do nothing. They could say nothing. They could hold no campaign
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events even, and just sit there and probably the Democrat candidate would cruise to victory,
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um, fairly easily because that's just how un, unpopular and divisive of a character Trump is
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like it or not. I mean, it's just, he just is. You look at the poll numbers and, um, it's pretty clear
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if they're going to say anything, uh, if they're going to say stuff and they're going to do stuff,
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all they really have to do is limit the stuff they say and the stuff they, they do to anything
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in the not crazy column. That's really pretty much anything. As long as it's not totally crazy and
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insane, um, they would be fine, but they can't manage to do even that. Just this, this,
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the bar they have to get over is so low. They can't even get over it. They can't even exercise
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that minimal self-control because Trump has this sort of reverse magnetism that causes them to,
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whatever he says, his ideological opponents will immediately rush to the exact opposite position
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from whatever he said. It doesn't matter what he says. They're going to take the opposite position.
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Um, so Democrats, when it comes to Trump are incapable of taking a moderated stance on anything
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they can't counter or, or they won't counter Trump's, um, shall we say eccentricities with
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something measured and calm and reasonable. They can't do that. Instead, they go to the other extreme
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end. So to the point where, uh, I think it'd be interesting to see Trump come out
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against, let's say eating garbage out of a, out of a dumpster. He should send some tweets saying,
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you know what folks, uh, we shouldn't eat garbage out of dumpster. You're a loser. If you eat garbage
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out of a dumpster, it's the stupidest thing in the world to eat garbage. He should just say that
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because then you're going to have Kamala Harris and, and Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden all coming
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out and saying eating garbage out of the dumpster is the most American thing. It's wonderful. It's
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healthy. It's tasty. It's, it's, it's, it's this, this is what true Americans do. Um, any position
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he takes, they're going to take the opposite. So these past few days have been a perfect example,
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perfect illustration of the, uh, the, the, the problem for Democrats. Trump, um, lashes out about
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Baltimore saying that no human would want to live there and it's rat infested and so on.
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And, uh, they could have responded by saying something like, look, he's basically right about
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Baltimore. Uh, Baltimore's got, got serious problems. It's a, it's a city with tough challenges.
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Uh, but Trump doesn't really care about this. He's just using the issue to divide us and to
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cause, uh, uh, you know, to turn us against each other, et cetera, and so forth. Yada, yada, yada.
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I mean, they, they could have gone that route. Um, where it's, it's, it's not like they are
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explicitly, uh, denying the problems in this city that we all know is a hell hole,
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but, uh, at the same time, they're not going to, they're not going to come to Trump's defense.
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Of course, I mean, I'm not expecting that they're, they're Democrats. They are his ideological enemies
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after all, but they could have taken that route, but instead they didn't do that. Instead, they take
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the diametric extreme opposite position and say, no, in fact, Baltimore's great. Uh, there's nothing
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wrong with it. And, and then they lose, they lose that news cycle. They lose that battle.
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And then the Sharpton thing. Well, um, Trump comes out and, you know, insults Al Sharpton.
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Fine. Uh, and, and says things about Al Sharpton that probably easily 95% of all the people in the
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country agree with when it comes to Al Sharpton. Um, so how do, how do the Democrats win that? Well,
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they could win it just by saying nothing, let Sharpton and Trump go back and forth, let them
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argue. And that's, that ends up being a win for Democrats, I think, or, or at least it's a not
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loss. It's not a loss for them in that case, or even better yet, they could come out and say,
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uh, Hey, I, I don't like Trump for X, Y, Z reason, but, uh, Sharpton is a, is a con man too.
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And, uh, so I, I, I have no dog in this fight. I'm not getting involved now that might, might be
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more difficult for a white, a white Democrat to say that, but someone like Kamala Harris,
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if, if she were to come out with, with something like that, come out against Al Sharpton,
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I think that would be a, an absolute winner for her,
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but instead, no, they come out and they heartily endorse the anti-Semite bigot fraud and they lose.
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Now, of course, there's an element of this on the right too. And I don't mean to deny that this is
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something, this is not just something that Democrats do. This is how our debates, if you
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want to call them that work in this country these days, um, where there's this tendency to define
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yourself based on taking the complete opposite position from your opponent, whatever that happens
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to be. Um, so an example of this on the right would be something like, I run into this sometimes,
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for instance, with right wingers who, um, respond to guys like Kaepernick and, uh, and those who talk
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about police brutality by insisting essentially that it isn't a problem at all. It just, it doesn't
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happen. And, uh, Hey, if you don't want to get beat by the cops, then just follow orders and do
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whatever they say. I mean, you know, taking this absolute book bootlicking anti-American
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legitimately fascist line. Now I, I use that word. Uh, I'm, I'm very hesitating and using that word
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because hesitant because, because of course it's an abused word, but when you, when you say, look,
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if you don't want to get beat, just, uh, just do what you're told that is, that really is basically
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a fascist line. And so, and there are some right wingers that you talk to them and that's what they'll
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say, you know, Hey, you don't want to get beat. Do what you're told. Um, because they're taking,
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they're, they're taking the, they're countering the excesses of the left when it comes to the
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police brutality issue, excesses, which are considerable where you've got leftists running
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around saying that, uh, all the cops are racist and they're on a mission to murder black people
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and that kind of thing, rather than come out with a nuanced and measured opposition, you see the,
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the opposite extreme. So it happens on both sides, but I think it's a, it's worse on the left
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because of the effect that Trump has, uh, on them where they can't, they just, it's, as I said,
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it's like, it's, it's, it's a reverse magnetism thing. It's something where they can't, it's like
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they can't physically help themselves, whatever he says they're on the opposite. Um, and so these
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are, these are two very winnable news cycles for the Democrats that they lost. And so they could
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very easily lose the election. If they continue down this, there's, there's no, there's no sign of
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them changing or, or figuring out how to respond to Trump in a more measured way. There's no sign of
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online. Uh, I, you know, you, you see a lot of these kinds of videos. Um, but I have to play this one
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for you. Uh, I just, I don't need to set it up any more than that. Watch this.
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President Trump is a mighty man, running this country the best that he can. The media swarms
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and the networks lie, but he doesn't flinch. He's a fearless guy. Get out the way, old man
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shooter. Get out the way. Stubborn Nancy, get out the way. All you haters. Trump's on a roll and it's
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gonna get greater. Yeah. Um, okay. That, all right. I'm just going to move on. This was, um, so here's
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an interesting little thing. A news report out of Phoenix, Arizona was, went viral yesterday. Uh, it
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was a story about a, speaking of, uh, policing, actually it's a story about a positive ticketing
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campaign by cops in, uh, in Arizona, Tempe, Arizona. The plan, well, the original story from
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the local media, or at least the original impression that was given was that the cops in Tempe, Arizona
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would be pulling over good driver, drivers, um, pulling over people who are, are obeying traffic
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laws because they're obeying traffic laws in order to give them coupons for a free Slurpee, uh, from
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the local gas station to reward them for their good driving. Well, not just a Slurpee in fairness,
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it could have been, it was a, it would be a coupon for any drink you want, really any drink you want
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at the gas that you can get Diet Coke, a Mountain Dew. Um, so, but that's the idea. They pull you over,
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or at least that was the, the impression people had based on the story. They'd pull you over
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and give you a coupon, uh, to reward you for, for obeying the speed limit. This idea was met with
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backlash, I think, understandably. And, um, a few hours later, the police department clarified saying,
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no, we're not gonna, we're not gonna pull you over. Okay. But if we happen to see you walking by
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or something, we might, uh, try to engage you in a conversation and then give you the coupon as a
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reward. Now, I'm not sure that I believe this clarification. Uh, if the whole idea is to reward
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good drivers, how could you do that unless you see them driving first? It just doesn't make any
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sense. If the, if the idea is to reward good drivers, it would seem like you'd have to pull
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them over because that's the only way that you would, what are cops going to do? Walk up to you
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and say, uh, Hey, are you a good driver? Well, yes, I am. Here's a coupon that there, that seems
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rather ridiculous. Um, well, anyway, the, now they're not going to pull people over. It seems
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likely to me that maybe that was the original plan. And then they changed it when they got such a,
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uh, with the backlash, when the feedback was so terrible. Um, I don't know. And there is precedent
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for cops pulling people, people over to, to, to, uh, pat them on the head for being good little boys
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and girls. Uh, you may remember this from a few years ago. Watch this. Hey, good afternoon,
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man. My name is Austin Warner with Halifax police department. Um, are you aware of why I pulled you
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over today? Are you familiar with a vehicle code 1739? Uh, well, it's actually against the law to
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drive on a hot day without an ice cream cone. So on behalf of the Halifax police department,
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we're just making sure that everybody's following all the laws today and are driving with, uh,
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ice cream cones. Like I said, I'm officer Warner. This is chief of police lands here in Halifax.
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We just want to make sure you guys weren't in compliance.
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Okay. So there they were pulling people over, um, to give out ice cream in Arizona. They claimed
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they were never intending to do anything like that, which, okay, fine. But it raises a, it raises
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a question about this whole idea of cops going around, handing out little prizes and commendations
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for people who are following the law. Uh, and I, I've heard of other things like this in other,
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in other places. I don't know if it doesn't always involve pulling people over, but the whole,
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the whole concept, um, I'm not a big fan of as far as pulling people over to give them a coupon
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or an ice cream. Uh, that is clearly a terrible idea on a number of levels, levels. You are,
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you're, you're interrupting the flow of traffic. You're pulling somebody off the road, uh, when
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they could be in a hurry. I mean, you don't know what they could be late for work to be late for
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an appointment, important appointment. Uh, you don't know what's going on with them yet. You're doing
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that. Uh, and you're causing a lot of stress as well. You're making people think that they're in
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trouble. It's very, it's very stressful thing when you see those sirens go off. And so you're doing all of
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that just so you can give them a little prize worth a dollar 25. Um, that's, it's not what
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police are supposed to be doing. Uh, and it's not fair to citizens who are forced to take part in
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this stunt because the moment you see the sirens go off behind you, you are essentially being
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detained at least temporarily. I mean, for all intents and purposes, you're being detained because
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you, you, you, you have to pull over. You don't have a choice. Um, and you have to comply with
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whatever they're saying. So to use that power and authority for something like this is obviously
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an abuse, um, to detain people even for five minutes so that you can play a little prank
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or give out coupons or do a little, you know, publicity stunt, little PR thing is completely
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wrong. Not to mention what if, what if the cop comes up with the coupon or the ice cream or whatever,
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and, uh, and they smell weed in the car or they see contraband of some kind, um, what do they do?
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Because they pulled you over under false pretenses. They, they, they, they, they, they pulled you over
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for, with no suspicion, no reasonable suspicion of, of illegal activity. Um, and let's say they,
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they come up with the ice cream or the coupon and then they see illegal activity going on.
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Can they even make an arrest in a situation like that? Uh, I'm not sure, but it opens up a whole
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can of legal worms here that just renders the whole thing completely absurd and not worth it
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at all. But really the main thing is this, if I'm obeying the law, leave me alone. Just leave me alone.
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Let me be. That's the best reward for me. I think for most people, let me go about my day. That's all.
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If I'm obeying the law, my reward is that I don't have to deal with cops to be detained. You know,
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I don't have to do any of that. I don't, I don't have to have that stress. I could just, I can,
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I have my freedom and my Liberty. I can go about my day and I have my time to myself and that's what
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I want. That's the best reward. So let me have that, which is why even the idea of giving out coupons
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to people on foot, you know, I don't like that idea either. I'm not into that for the same reason.
00:24:16.080
That I don't need that. Just let, let me be, please. Um, now if the point here is to improve
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the relationship between cops and the, and citizens, then I think that's a worthy goal.
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It's a nice idea. I mean, it's, it's, if it's the thought that counts and in fact, a lot more than
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the thought counts, but if that's all that counted, then it would be fine because it's a nice thought,
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but let me suggest a better method. You don't need a promotional stunt. You don't need ice cream.
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You don't need coupons. Um, I think instead what you could do is simply train police officers
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to be generally friendly to the community, um, to law abiding members of the community,
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especially friendly and helpful in general. Uh, they don't need to give out free stuff,
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but just be friendly and, and, and, uh, welcoming to people and, and approachable. Um, and, uh,
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and you could train them even when they're pulling someone over for a minor traffic violation
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and they're giving the person a ticket. You could train them to not be jerks about it,
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train them to, uh, treat their fellow citizens as fellow citizens, not serfs, not subjects.
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And a lot of cops already do this. The majority of cops already do this. Uh, so they don't need,
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they don't need to train them. They, they, that's what they already do. And that's great.
00:25:35.720
And those are police officers who are very much helping with the relationship between, uh, the community
00:25:41.980
and law enforcement. Um, and to give those cops coupons to give out or something is,
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it's not just demeaning and patronizing for the citizens. It is for them too.
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I feel bad for the cops in this situation because I'm sure they don't have a choice. They have to do
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it. I would certainly hate it if I was a police officer and you were wasting my time with stuff
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like this and I have to do it. I don't have a choice. Um, so I feel bad for them as well.
00:26:06.240
My point is simply that all the coupons in the world, um, aren't going to compensate for cops who
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struggle in this area of simply being nice and friendly, you know, to the community,
00:26:19.020
especially to law abiding members of the community, any police officer who struggles in that area,
00:26:24.860
uh, it's, it's, you're not going to compensate for that with coupons. And if they don't struggle in
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that area, um, then the coupons are unnecessary. It's an, it's an added thing that just makes it
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weird and awkward and there's no reason for it. So that's what I would say. Um, and you know,
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the last thing too, is I don't, I don't like, I think like most people these days, um, I don't,
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I'm not a fan of participation trophies. The idea that anyone should be given any kind of prize
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at all simply for obeying the law. Um, I don't like that because obeying the law is our, right.
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It's our civic duty. It's like, it's like, it's a, it's a bare minimum. It's just, it's what we're
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supposed to do. That's why if you don't obey the law, you get in trouble, you get fined or you go
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to jail. Um, because it's expected that you could at least do this as a citizen.
00:27:24.600
So we talk about the responsibility of police officers. Well, the responsibility for us is,
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you know, obeying the law is bare minimum stuff.
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So to give us essentially a civic participation, participation trophy and saying, congrats for not
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breaking the law. Uh, no, no, we don't, we don't, uh, not only are you wasting our time,
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but it's also, we don't deserve that. Even something like a coupon, we don't deserve that
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simply for breaking, for, for obeying the law. It's so the whole idea is, is awful. Um,
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um, let's see, there was one other story, um, in the daily wire about, well, maybe we'll save this
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for tomorrow. Um, I'll, I'll read a little bit from this story in the daily wire, a report a few
00:28:12.500
days ago, um, that went viral for, for good reason. Uh, reading a bit from the report, it says John
00:28:18.200
Doe, as he is referred to in court documents reviewed by the daily wire was accused of sexually
00:28:23.260
assaulting a student referred to as Jane Roe at the end of January, 2018. Um, and this is at,
00:28:29.680
uh, Pennsylvania state university. The two had met the previous spring since they were both parts of
00:28:35.320
the, uh, part of the Shryer's honors college, uh, January 26, 2018, the two met up again in a computer
00:28:40.980
lab and started talking. They then started flirting and Jane put her number into John's phone,
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according to the lawsuit and texted herself. I love you from John's phone as a means of giving
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herself John's number. Um, and they continued to flirt and we're walking through how their relationship
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progressed because it's important for the, for what happened next. So, um, okay. So it's a flirtatious
00:29:08.700
relationship. Um, eventually they end up in, uh, uh, they end up in Jane's room, which she invited
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John to her room. Um, and, uh, they engage in sexual activity. Um, the lawsuit claims that Jane
00:29:27.960
later, it was a totally consensual act. The lawsuit claims that Jane later changed her account of the
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sexual encounter to claim that John physically forced her into sex and, uh, that she tried to get
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away from him, which according to the lawsuit was, was, uh, was not the case at all. Um, but here's
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the, okay, here's, so this, so far it's, it's a story that unfortunately we've heard many times of
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according to, according to the lawsuit anyway, you know, you have a consensual encounter that after the
00:30:00.300
fact turns non-consensual because the woman changed her mind and decided she regretted it and so on,
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which of course you, you, you never hear the reverse of that. I mean, despite what some people
00:30:16.480
may think there, there have been occasions in the history of mankind, even in recent American history,
00:30:22.080
uh, there are probably, there are probably frequently occasions where, um, there's a sexual
00:30:27.760
encounter between a guy and a girl and the guy later regrets it and wishes he hadn't done that.
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But you never hear about the guy coming back and saying, you know, you know what, actually, um, I,
00:30:38.460
I wasn't into that. Um, I was raped. You, you, you never hear that. And if a guy did do that,
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I think he'd probably be laughed at the room. Nobody would take him seriously. So this is something
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that only women are able to do. Um, it's a kind of female privilege. Well, the hearings panel chair told,
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um, uh, okay. They said that the panel felt, this is the panel that was, you know, looking into these
00:31:04.580
allegations, uh, at the school. They felt that the respondents continual flattery constitutes cajoling,
00:31:11.600
which they gave several examples. Um, they gave several examples of what they felt that the guy was
00:31:19.780
cajoling, cajoling the girl into sex by flattering her. And some of the examples they gave, uh, these
00:31:27.160
are all just constitute text messages that he sent flirty sort of text messages. So when they say
00:31:33.260
cajoling, it's not like he was trying to blackmail her or intimidate her and damn sex, but no, he was
00:31:38.100
just, he called her beautiful, uh, stuff like that complimented her normal things that guys say to
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girls, especially if they're in a relationship of some kind with them. Um, and so the school decided
00:31:53.160
that the flattery, um, is a cajoling into sexual intercourse. And therefore it's a form of sexual
00:32:02.320
assault. That's all according to the lawsuit. I mean, this is, you want to talk about the slippery
00:32:09.260
slope. This is, this is where we are now. And, uh, it yet again, underscores how dangerous it is.
00:32:21.200
And I think maybe this is the takeaway for people that are in, you know, if you're in college,
00:32:25.980
if you're a guy or, or a woman, either way, um, to engage in, you know, the, the hookup culture and
00:32:34.640
everything, it's, it's a, it's a dangerous game to play dangerous on a number of levels. I mean,
00:32:40.060
aside from the diseases and everything that are possible, there's also this element of it now,
00:32:43.980
now just completely insane. All right. We'll go to emails, Matt wall show at gmail.com
00:32:50.300
Matt wall show at gmail.com. Uh, this is from Dave says, Hey Matt, I've been navigating my own
00:32:56.280
beliefs on the death penalty as a Catholic. Francis recently scrubbed a bunch of latitude and personal
00:33:02.320
interpretation from the catechism. I naturally resonate with the thoughts you presented in a
00:33:07.180
recent podcast. I'd love to hear your thoughts on squaring Catholic faith in this belief as most of
00:33:12.560
the Catholic talkers are militantly anti-death penalty. Uh, yeah, we talked about the death
00:33:18.420
penalty and, and, uh, I shared that I am, I'm in favor of the death penalty. Although as I've talked
00:33:23.140
about over, over the course of, of the last couple of years, I've kind of flip-flopped on this issue,
00:33:30.060
but I'm now pretty firmly in favor of it for reasons that I outlined. I'm not going to get
00:33:33.980
into it again. Uh, but I have gotten several emails like this from people saying, well,
00:33:38.100
I thought as a Catholic, don't you have to be against the death penalty because the Pope came
00:33:42.320
out and said that the death penalty is impermissible. Um, or I forget the phrase he used.
00:33:48.160
I think that was the exact word, something like impermissible, inadmissible, maybe. Um, in,
00:33:54.780
in typical Pope Francis fashion, there was a little bit of vagueness and ambiguity in the way that it
00:34:01.700
was phrased, but it is true that, um, they made this change to the catechism. What I'll say though,
00:34:08.420
Dave, is that Catholic teaching, as I'm, as you probably are aware, Catholic teaching on the death
00:34:19.300
penalty has for, for, for, for 2000 years, the, the, the church taught that the death penalty
00:34:25.840
is at least in principle, um, acceptable, uh, not just acceptable actually, but, but, uh, could be the,
00:34:35.740
the, the, the morally right things to do. It could be, it could be necessary for, for justice.
00:34:41.600
That's what the Catholic church taught for 2000 years. Um, importantly, that is also clearly what
00:34:49.520
scripture teaches. I mean, you have God in his own words in the old Testament, uh, on numerous
00:34:58.980
occasions commanding the death penalty, not, not simply saying, oh yeah, you could do that if you
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want, but saying you must do it, um, for crimes like murder, for instance. So that's, that's what
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I know as a Catholic. And I know that the Pope does not have the authority to, on his own, simply
00:35:25.740
overturn that. The Pope can't overturn what God said. He can't. Um, and the Pope also can't get up
00:35:35.260
there and say, oh, you know what? The church was actually wrong about this for 2000 years because I
00:35:41.060
say so it's my, you know, in my opinion, they were wrong. So they were, um, the Pope can't do that.
00:35:49.560
So I guess my answer is, uh, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm not in disagreement with the church.
00:35:54.620
I'm not in disagreement with scripture. I am in disagreement with Pope Francis himself personally,
00:36:00.360
and I'm perfectly free to disagree with it. Um, all right. This is from Taylor says in high
00:36:08.540
school. I came across one of your blogs and I've been following your work ever since I admire your
00:36:12.400
intellectual honesty and wit, and you seem like a good person in general. Uh, well, I don't know
00:36:16.540
about any of that, but thank you, um, Taylor. I especially liked the episode of your show in
00:36:20.840
which you discuss philosophy. You mentioned a few episodes ago that you're naturally interested
00:36:24.460
in philosophical questions. We have this in common. I'm a graduate student in philosophy now,
00:36:28.460
and I was wondering if you had any favorite non-theological philosophical arguments.
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It doesn't have to be an explicitly deductive argument. Perhaps there's a thought experiment
00:36:35.780
or analogy that you find particularly interesting. If so, could you explain the argument and what
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you like about it? Okay. So you're asking for a favorite philosophical art question or argument
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that doesn't explicitly deal with God or, or, or anything theological. Um, it's an interesting
00:36:50.360
question. Of course, at the end of the day, everything goes back to these theological questions
00:36:54.560
as I'm sure you probably agree. So you can't really separate it completely, but in terms
00:37:02.220
of theological or philosophical questions that aren't explicitly theological, um, well, I would
00:37:08.700
say, and this relates to the philosophical question we were discussing when I made the comment
00:37:12.000
that you're, uh, referring to about philosophy. Um, I am very interested in the nature of consciousness.
00:37:19.340
Um, and again, that has a lot of theological implications of course, but still it's something
00:37:24.780
that I find fairly fascinating. The nature of the self of consciousness and so on. Uh, I
00:37:29.820
think it's a very interesting field, philosophical field, um, not just philosophical, but as I said,
00:37:36.820
also theological, scientific. There's a thought experiment that touches on the nature of self
00:37:41.780
and consciousness. Um, a couple, actually the philosopher Thomas Nagel, which you, you probably
00:37:47.300
if you're getting a, if you're going to school for philosophy, you've probably heard about this,
00:37:51.460
but he wrote a famous essay, um, called what is it like to be a bat? And it deals with the question
00:37:59.040
of consciousness and conscious experiment experience. And he asks the question, is there an experience
00:38:06.780
of batness, uh, for lack of a better term, do bats really experience being bats the way that you
00:38:15.780
experience being a human? Um, do they think anything at all about themselves, about what
00:38:23.380
they're experiencing? Is it like something to be a bat or to be a squid or to be a sloth or to be,
00:38:30.040
you know, a dog or whatever. Um, and I think that's a, that is a, an interesting question.
00:38:36.540
Another thought experiment that I think we've talked about before on this show, um,
00:38:41.580
was first proposed by a philosopher in the, in the eighties, I think maybe seventies or eighties.
00:38:47.460
And this is, um, the thought experiment is this, imagine we live in a future where it's possible
00:38:54.820
to transplant a brain into a new body, which probably eventually scientists will be able to,
00:39:01.440
doctors will be able to do that. Um, they're not close right now, but let's just imagine that was
00:39:06.980
possible. Now suppose, because remember it is possible to live with half a brain.
00:39:13.700
So suppose that your brain is cut in two and then one half of the brain is transplanted into
00:39:20.060
one body and the other half is transplanted into another body. Where did you go? What happened to
00:39:26.420
you? Your brain's gotten to transplant different bodies. What happened to you? I think that's an
00:39:31.820
interesting question. Which one is you? Are you both now? Well, that, that's, that seems impossible.
00:39:37.600
Uh, are you, are you neither? Did you simply disappear? Um, and if so, then what, who, who replaced
00:39:46.300
you? Are you one and not the other? And then if that's the case, who's the other guy? I mean,
00:39:51.400
it's, it's, it's an interesting question. I think, um, of course, purely hypothetical. And as
00:39:58.440
a thought experiment is, I don't, even if they get to the point where they can transplant brains,
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and even though we can survive with half a brain, I don't think there'll ever be a situation where
00:40:07.980
they would actually transplant half a brain into someone's head. But you know, um, this is from
00:40:12.800
Samuel says, uh, hello, Matt. I listened to your show fairly regularly and I very much enjoy it.
00:40:19.140
I agree with you for the most part, but there are a few things that I don't. The reason I'm writing
00:40:23.200
today is to challenge your idea that as adults, we should not hang on to our childhood
00:40:27.140
enjoyments stories slash movies in particular. As an adult, I have grown to really appreciate a lot
00:40:33.040
of children's stories and movies much more than I, when I was younger, even CS Lewis said that he
00:40:37.260
enjoyed store children's stories more as an adult. Thank you for the work you do. And I look forward to
00:40:42.760
getting my point of view roasted on your show. I'm not going to roast your point of view. Um,
00:40:47.220
I think it is, uh, it is possible to appreciate children's stories as an adult. Um,
00:40:55.860
you know, I'll read stories to my kids and I can appreciate those stories.
00:41:02.260
So I'm not saying we don't appreciate them, but I do think that, uh, look, the Bible says I became
00:41:08.760
a man and put away childish things. I think to a certain extent, and I'm, you know, and people,
00:41:14.380
people always counter that. I don't remember the exact quote, but the CS Lewis quote you're referring
00:41:18.120
to people always counter that scripture quote with the CS Lewis thing. Um, even though CS Lewis was not,
00:41:24.660
he wasn't trying to disagree with St. Paul when he said, when he said what you're, what you're
00:41:28.940
referring to. So I think that my, my point is simply as we grow older, our tastes should mature
00:41:37.520
to some extent. So while we could still appreciate childish things, uh, childlike things, we can
00:41:43.880
appreciate them to some extent in a, in a certain way. Um, we appreciate them as adults. And I think we
00:41:52.260
also have mature tastes as well. That's why I was saying the interesting thing about being a parent
00:41:58.680
is that you go back and you kind of relive your childhood in many ways. Um, you're experiencing all
00:42:05.620
the things you experienced as a child again, but now you're experiencing it as an adult, as a parent
00:42:10.680
from a different perspective. I think the problem is when you have adults that are clinging onto their
00:42:18.600
childhood and still experiencing those childlike things, almost like children themselves,
00:42:25.520
not from a new perspective, not, you know, reliving it as a parent or something, but refusing to leave
00:42:33.340
childhood to begin with. And also I would say, I think there's a difference between, uh, you know,
00:42:40.980
when someone like C.S. Lewis talks about fairy tales for children, well, you got to keep in mind
00:42:47.400
C.S. Lewis, I mean, he was writing back in the early to mid 20th century, um, uh, mid 20th century
00:42:54.720
anyway. And still even back then, for the most part, you know, the, the fairy tales that, that, that he
00:43:00.460
was talking about, they're not the same as the kind of as comic book movies today. I think fairy tales
00:43:07.480
back in those days were often, you know, often did have very mature themes and, uh, they were for
00:43:14.080
children, but they also, you know, they, they, they also had a certain depth to them, I guess is the
00:43:20.140
point that I think a lot of the stuff for kids these days has just has no depth. Um, and that's one of
00:43:29.460
the reasons why usually as you grow older and you become an adult, you, these days, um, I think at
00:43:37.440
least for me, as I've grown older, I, I, I can't enjoy some of those childlike things the same way
00:43:43.700
because it just, it has no depth. There's nothing to it. And as you get older, you start to see that.
00:43:49.440
Um, all right. This is from Paul says, have you seen this video regarding your minimum wage
00:43:54.160
discussion? And then there's a link to the video. Uh, and this is a video from someone named Sam
00:43:59.240
Cedar, uh, titled is Matt Walsh, the laziest right winger in media. Apparently it's a response
00:44:08.300
to my, to what I said about minimum wage. Uh, the email goes on, although I'm a free market
00:44:13.220
capitalist and opposed to minimum wage, they do make an interesting point about when people provide
00:44:17.500
more work, uh, than they're being paid. I certainly understand that it's very difficult to really measure
00:44:21.760
the value of someone's work. And I think that we need to be grateful for the opportunity to work
00:44:25.100
and should always try to do the best job possible out of gratitude if nothing else. But I'm
00:44:29.180
very interested to hear your rebuttal to this video. Keep it the good work. Um, yeah, Paul,
00:44:33.360
I hadn't seen this video, uh, but I will watch it. It's okay. It's 17 minutes long rebuttal to what
00:44:41.080
I said about, I'll watch it. And I'll, if, if, if there's anything interesting there, I will provide
00:44:46.440
a response on the show, but thank you for bringing it to my attention. Uh, we'll leave it there,
00:44:52.200
Hey everyone. It's Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan show. Politics corrupts,
00:45:09.640
but identity politics corrupts. Absolutely. Trump has broken through that evil racist system. Not
00:45:15.660
politely. I admit more like the incredible Hulk walking through a wall. The question is now that
00:45:20.540
the wall is down. Well, the rest of us have the courage to run free. We'll talk about it on the