The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 309 - The Courage To Be Sane

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, we're going to hit some stories we missed from the week, starting with Mario Lopez.

00:00:04.920 He said that three-year-olds can't choose their own gender, and he's since cowardly apologized for it.

00:00:10.980 So we're going to discuss the need in our culture for not just sanity, but also courage, which is sorely lacking in so many cases.

00:00:18.760 Also, is it racist to have white robots? CNN has asked that very important question.

00:00:24.440 And scientists are trying to create a human-monkey hybrid.

00:00:27.980 We'll discuss the many moral problems with that today on the Matt Wall Show.

00:00:36.180 So a scientist writing in Psychology Today has written an article, and he's saying that when we first—this is what he's arguing.

00:00:43.860 He's saying when we first meet aliens, we may have to kill them in the name of scientific progress so that we can dissect them.

00:00:50.380 And he wrote this article, and he published it on the Internet.

00:00:53.660 And I've just read it just now.

00:00:55.000 Yeah, and here's my point.

00:00:57.040 It's the Internet.

00:00:58.200 The aliens can read this too.

00:01:00.040 So you just announced to the aliens your plans to kill them.

00:01:03.340 Think about that.

00:01:03.980 Now, considering these waves go out into space, they can be seen by the aliens, I would just like to make it clear that I oppose the plan to kill aliens.

00:01:14.160 So just keep that in mind to our future alien overlords when they do come.

00:01:18.980 I am not—I do not support this.

00:01:21.800 All right.

00:01:22.380 Today, Friday is—I think it's going to be my chance to go back through the week and hit some of the stories that I didn't get a chance to talk about, mainly because of the stupid debates.

00:01:31.280 But there were several interesting items, aside from dissecting space aliens, that I think are worth talking about.

00:01:39.760 And we're going to start with this, which, surprisingly enough, I didn't discuss during the week.

00:01:44.800 And that is Mario Lopez, the cautionary tale of Mario Lopez.

00:01:49.360 As you've no doubt heard by now, Lopez ended up in the left's crosshairs this week for—and this is an outrage, by the way, that has not subsided for him.

00:01:58.740 I just read an article just published, I think last night, on NBC News, blasting Mario Lopez.

00:02:05.120 So they're not over it yet.

00:02:06.980 They're still very upset.

00:02:08.480 The reason why they're upset is because Lopez, in an interview that I think was actually back in June, which only now, for whatever reason, got everyone's attention,

00:02:17.980 he made the extraordinary claim, extraordinary correct claim, that three-year-olds are psychologically incapable of choosing their own gender. 0.93

00:02:28.760 So he—now, he was on the Candace Owens show when he said this.

00:02:34.400 I want to read what he actually said, because it's very important that he did stipulate three-year-olds in what he said.

00:02:42.120 And it's important for us to realize that when we look at all the outrage and everything.

00:02:45.000 So he said, look, I've never wanted to tell anyone how to parent our kids, obviously, and I think if you come from a place of love, you really can't go wrong.

00:02:51.320 But at the—that's not true.

00:02:52.340 You can—you can still go wrong.

00:02:53.880 But at the same time, my God, if you're three years old and you're saying you're feeling a certain way, or you think you're a boy or a girl, or whatever the case may be,

00:02:59.900 I just think it's dangerous as a parent to make this determination, then, well, okay, then you're going to be a boy or a girl, whatever the case may be.

00:03:06.400 Okay, and that's all he said, saying, in other words, if a three-year-old boy says, I'm a girl, my gosh, he's three years old, that doesn't mean anything.

00:03:17.240 It's dangerous to take that seriously.

00:03:20.000 Sadly, yet predictably, Lopez, of course, has since issued a groveling apology for saying something that any sane person ought to recognize as completely unavoidably, unassailably true.

00:03:32.600 So, under pressure from the radical left-wing, smear machines like the human rights campaign, the media—in fact, the media headlines that you probably saw earlier in the week about this,

00:03:46.420 all the headlines were along the lines of,

00:03:49.320 Mario Lopez comes out against supporting trans kids.

00:03:54.200 Just so disingenuous.

00:03:56.420 So, Lopez folded like a cheap lawn chair and disavowed his comments, calling them ignorant and hurtful.

00:04:02.320 We'll get back to his apology in a minute.

00:04:05.200 But first, because it's apparently necessary to clarify this, we should establish that the truth, first of all, may indeed be hurtful to people who are grasping desperately to a delusion.

00:04:21.720 So, it may hurt them in a way.

00:04:23.720 It may hurt in the same way that, you know, getting a shot or something at the doctor hurts, or, you know, but it's something that they need.

00:04:34.740 But there's certainly nothing remotely ignorant about observing the fact that three-year-old children are immature and neurologically underdeveloped because they're three-year-olds, three years old.

00:04:46.160 What you'll notice, as always, about the people that are coming out against Lopez, is that none of them can explain, or have even attempted to explain, why his comments were wrong.

00:05:02.740 Now, I've read several outraged articles, including the one I mentioned in NBC News, saying, oh, he's so terrible for saying this.

00:05:13.080 None of those articles are explaining, okay, what part of it was wrong exactly, and in what way was it wrong?

00:05:20.560 So, to just tell me, oh, it's going to hurt someone's feelings if they read it, well, I don't care about that.

00:05:24.460 That's not, because that doesn't have any bearing on whether or not it's true.

00:05:27.920 So, in what way was it untrue?

00:05:30.600 Even Lopez himself and his mea culpa didn't go into specifics about what part of his statement was incorrect.

00:05:38.040 You know, if he's going to come out now and say, oh, you know, never mind, I was wrong about that.

00:05:41.840 Well, what new information did he stumble across in the last few days that made him realize, oh, you know what, actually, children can choose their own gender.

00:05:49.960 Well, of course, there's no new information.

00:05:52.780 The left has no coherent reasons or rational defenses when it comes to this issue and so many other issues as well.

00:06:00.900 They have only ideology and they have emotion, which all signify nothing.

00:06:06.880 Here's the reality.

00:06:08.660 A three-year-old child cannot reliably make any choice in any context.

00:06:16.360 I'm not exaggerating.

00:06:18.340 I've had three three-year-olds in my house.

00:06:22.060 They can't make choices.

00:06:23.800 You take a three-year-old to Baskin-Robbins.

00:06:25.900 You ask him which flavor he prefers.

00:06:28.240 And he's going to give you 14 different answers before he collapses into tears.

00:06:31.300 He literally can't decide.

00:06:34.780 You let a three-year-old decide what outfit he's going to wear for the day and he's going to come from his room with one shoe, no pants, a diaper on his head.

00:06:42.580 He just he has no idea.

00:06:44.240 You let a three-year-old decide.

00:06:46.020 Let him go into the kitchen.

00:06:47.620 Choose anything he wants for dinner.

00:06:49.080 What he's going to end up with is a bowl full of ketchup with a side of gummy bears covered in whipped cream.

00:06:54.900 Because a child at that age has not developed, which doesn't sound like a bad dinner actually, but all the same.

00:07:03.740 A child at that age has not developed a cognitive ability to assess a variety of options and decide the correct course, the safest course, the healthiest course, the most sensible course.

00:07:15.880 Children at that age can't do that.

00:07:18.460 And they're not going to have that ability for several more years.

00:07:20.800 And if a child grows up to be a leftist, they're never going to develop that ability.

00:07:25.700 So you certainly can't expect three or three-year-olds to have that ability.

00:07:31.000 Now, of course, when we're talking about this, we should stipulate that nobody can choose his or her own gender.

00:07:38.720 So when I say someone at three or three years old can't do it.

00:07:42.740 Well, yes, but nobody can do it.

00:07:44.460 So it's not like I'm saying that once you get older, maybe you can.

00:07:48.000 Nobody can do it because that matter is irrevocably settled by our chromosomes and our reproductive organs.

00:07:53.680 And that's it.

00:07:54.200 But the leftist position on this topic is so preposterous, so absurd, that even if you grant them the premise that gender can theoretically be chosen,

00:08:07.300 even if I were to say, okay, sure, you can theoretically, you could choose your own gender.

00:08:11.980 I'm not granting that.

00:08:12.860 But let's just say for the sake of argument, I did.

00:08:15.280 They would still be wrong for thinking that someone at three years old can choose it.

00:08:20.960 So even if it was possible to choose your own gender, it would still be the case that, of course, you can't at three years old. 0.93

00:08:29.760 There's a reason why toddlers are not entrusted with any legal powers or responsibilities.

00:08:34.560 They can't drive.

00:08:35.720 They can't vote.

00:08:36.600 They can't take out a mortgage.

00:08:37.980 They can't buy a gun.

00:08:38.900 They can't buy a ticket for an R-rated movie.

00:08:40.680 They can't buy alcohol.

00:08:41.660 They can't buy cigarettes.

00:08:42.760 They can't buy anything because they're simply too young to do so.

00:08:46.520 And we all realize that.

00:08:48.560 Young children, this is important to realize about young kids.

00:08:54.420 They cannot grasp the distinction between fantasy and reality.

00:09:01.840 They can't grasp it.

00:09:03.040 They don't know the difference.

00:09:04.460 If you tell a toddler that Batman isn't real, he's going to stare at you blankly.

00:09:10.500 Because the term isn't real doesn't mean anything to him.

00:09:14.080 He doesn't know.

00:09:14.760 What do you mean isn't real?

00:09:15.940 That is a phrase empty of meaning for a young child.

00:09:19.240 So I remember my oldest son, maybe I've told this before, my oldest son at about four years

00:09:24.960 old, he's six now, I once caught him on the second floor of our house, nearly about

00:09:33.500 to leap over the banister on the balcony to plunge 15 feet to the first floor.

00:09:41.540 Now, I stopped him just in time, and I warned him very sternly, you cannot do that.

00:09:47.160 You can't do it.

00:09:48.180 You'll go to the hospital.

00:09:48.920 You might die if you do that.

00:09:50.080 You can't do it.

00:09:51.620 But he explained to me that, well, but Spider-Man does that stuff all the time.

00:09:55.780 Spider-Man does it.

00:09:56.760 I've seen Spider-Man jump over down, you know, off of entire buildings.

00:10:01.860 And I explained to him, I tried to explain to him, look, Spider-Man isn't real.

00:10:08.200 Okay?

00:10:08.700 He's not real.

00:10:09.900 That's not a real thing that people can do.

00:10:12.020 And then he said to me, no, you're wrong, Daddy.

00:10:13.700 I've seen him on TV.

00:10:14.860 And I realized that it's just, there's no, so then I had to say, okay, yes, Spider-Man

00:10:20.260 can do it, but you're not Spider-Man, though.

00:10:22.480 Okay?

00:10:23.200 So that's why.

00:10:24.400 The whole concept of Spider-Man not being real didn't mean anything to him.

00:10:29.200 I was at the lake with my, with our current three-year-old, he's about to be three years

00:10:33.840 old.

00:10:34.480 And we were at the lake a few weeks ago.

00:10:36.620 And I was going to put him in his life jacket so he could go in the water.

00:10:43.300 And he was insisting to me that he doesn't need to wear a life jacket.

00:10:46.220 And I said, you do need a life jacket.

00:10:48.120 It's not safe.

00:10:48.960 And he said, but I'm a fish, Daddy.

00:10:51.940 But you know what I did?

00:10:52.720 Even though he told me he was a fish, here's the crazy thing.

00:10:56.660 This is how oppressive I am as a parent.

00:10:59.040 I still made him wear the life jacket.

00:11:02.120 I said, okay, Nemo, but you still got to wear the life jacket.

00:11:05.780 Isn't that crazy?

00:11:06.840 He didn't want to.

00:11:08.460 He insisted he was a fish.

00:11:10.880 But as a parent, I knew that wasn't true.

00:11:14.620 And so I forced him to do the safe and sensible thing as a parent.

00:11:19.400 Yes, I think that is what we're supposed to do.

00:11:20.780 Are we supposed to believe that people, kids, who are this ignorant and immature,

00:11:28.480 innocently detached from reality, they have an excuse to be ignorant.

00:11:31.520 I mean, literally ignorant as in they lack information.

00:11:34.400 That's what ignorant means.

00:11:36.560 Are we supposed to believe that they can make meaningful declarations about their own gender?

00:11:41.120 A boy who says he's a girl doesn't even know what a girl is.

00:11:46.280 That's the thing.

00:11:47.500 Now, adult leftists, they don't know what a girl is either.

00:11:51.280 And I've talked about this many times on the show.

00:11:52.840 I've put this challenge out to adult leftists.

00:11:55.420 Say, can you define the word woman? 0.76

00:11:57.540 They can't do it.

00:11:59.120 And you defeat the entire transgender argument, as I've explained, with that question.

00:12:03.200 It's done.

00:12:03.720 You've defeated it.

00:12:04.400 Just ask them.

00:12:05.140 Next time someone tells you about this, oh, transgender, just say, what's a woman? 1.00

00:12:08.260 Define it.

00:12:08.880 They can't.

00:12:09.940 You win, they lose.

00:12:10.880 It's as simple as that.

00:12:12.060 But children especially can't define these terms.

00:12:15.740 They don't know what it means.

00:12:16.600 So if you're tempted to take a three-year-old seriously, three-year-old boy seriously when

00:12:23.420 he comes and says, I'm a girl.

00:12:25.300 If you're tempted at all to take that seriously, before you go and buy him dresses and start

00:12:30.720 scheduling the hormone treatments, maybe just ask a simple follow-up question.

00:12:34.760 And that question is, okay, little Johnny, what's a girl?

00:12:41.720 Real simple.

00:12:42.600 How is it that all these parents are saying, I have a transgender kid.

00:12:45.900 How is it you've never asked that question to them?

00:12:48.580 Have you ever asked them what they mean by that?

00:12:52.360 It's amazing to me that parents can be this stupid, that you would never ask that question.

00:12:57.140 Because if you ask that question, I guarantee you, what you're going to hear in the answer

00:13:02.740 is something along the lines of, well, he's seen his sister playing with the dollhouse,

00:13:08.340 and he wants to play with the dollhouse too because he thinks it looks cool.

00:13:11.480 What he's really saying is he is interested in the things that he, in his little toddler

00:13:18.000 brain, associates with girls.

00:13:19.960 He is interested in girl-associated things, which is fine.

00:13:24.100 If he wants to play with the dollhouse, let him play with it.

00:13:27.140 Doesn't mean he is a girl.

00:13:30.040 As adults, it is our job to help children sort through these things.

00:13:36.020 To help them understand what they really mean.

00:13:38.700 Yes, that's what we're supposed to do because they don't know what they mean.

00:13:41.160 They don't know anything about anything.

00:13:45.500 It's up to us to tell them.

00:13:49.260 But Lopez, as I said, so he apologized.

00:13:53.340 Let me read his apology.

00:13:54.580 He said, the comments I made were ignorant and insensitive, and I now have a deeper understanding

00:13:59.760 of how hurtful they were.

00:14:01.000 I have been and always will be an ardent supporter of the LGBTQ community, and I am going to use

00:14:05.980 this opportunity to better educate myself.

00:14:08.040 Moving forward, I will be more informed and thoughtful.

00:14:10.560 More informed.

00:14:12.400 More informed.

00:14:14.420 He said three-year-olds can't choose their own gender, and that means he needs to be more 1.00

00:14:18.060 informed.

00:14:19.680 No.

00:14:20.520 As I said, all the people, Mario, who are coming after you, did any of them present you

00:14:26.960 with information you didn't have before?

00:14:30.000 What's the new information?

00:14:31.260 You say, oh, I lacked information.

00:14:32.860 Okay, well, what information did you stumble upon that made you realize, oh, never mind,

00:14:38.480 actually, they can choose their own gender.

00:14:43.700 What you see here from Mario Lopez, I don't mean to pick on him because he's just a C-list

00:14:47.740 celebrity in Hollywood.

00:14:48.960 I don't even know what he does now.

00:14:51.060 Game show host or something.

00:14:53.040 So what do you expect?

00:14:54.200 It's not like I put all my hopes and dreams on Mario Lopez fighting the good fight here.

00:15:00.960 But still, it bears pointing out that what we're seeing here, this is just enormous craven

00:15:10.880 cowardice.

00:15:12.940 Cowardice on an almost inconceivable level.

00:15:16.700 Or it would be inconceivable if we weren't so accustomed to seeing it.

00:15:21.480 And it goes to show again, because think about the cowardice here.

00:15:26.420 But you are, because some people were mad, you are now denying biological reality.

00:15:37.600 You are pretending to not understand reality.

00:15:40.640 It would be no different.

00:15:42.100 It's exactly the same thing as if Mario Lopez had said two plus two equals four.

00:15:48.660 And then a bunch of mathematic relativists got angry about it.

00:15:52.800 And he said, you know what?

00:15:55.200 That was ignorant of me.

00:15:56.420 To say that it was thoughtless, it was hurtful.

00:15:59.780 There are many children all throughout the country who, when they are doing mathematics

00:16:04.580 tests, they'll say two plus two equals six or eight.

00:16:07.700 And so I was wrong to insist that it equals four.

00:16:10.000 It's the same thing.

00:16:10.940 There's no difference.

00:16:13.600 Between that and Mario Lopez pretending that, you know, he doesn't understand arithmetic.

00:16:18.460 So this is where we are.

00:16:19.600 And it goes to show again that our country will be dragged finally and irrevocably into utter

00:16:29.040 madness, into utter lunacy.

00:16:30.880 We will be dragged into the dark to wallow there forever if the sane among us do not have even

00:16:39.760 the slightest bit of courage.

00:16:41.200 That's, that's the most important thing in our culture today.

00:16:46.920 The first is the ability to recognize basic truth.

00:16:51.680 Because that's what we're down to now, is we are fighting over the most basic and fundamental truths.

00:16:56.600 And these are the most important.

00:16:59.920 There are still some conservatives who say, that's a sideshow issue.

00:17:02.700 This doesn't matter.

00:17:03.700 This is basic elemental truth.

00:17:06.160 This is just about basic reality.

00:17:08.520 How can we say, ah, reality doesn't matter.

00:17:10.880 We can give up reality.

00:17:12.000 What do you need that for?

00:17:13.780 No, this is, this is, this is a starting point.

00:17:17.000 We need to have this.

00:17:18.040 Or there's no hope in arguing about anything else.

00:17:20.380 But aside from having the ability to recognize truth, the second important thing for us to

00:17:27.100 have is a little bit of courage.

00:17:31.220 Don't need much.

00:17:33.220 Just enough courage to say, for instance, listen, I, you're upset about it, but boys are boys,

00:17:38.400 girls are girls.

00:17:39.080 I'm sorry.

00:17:39.660 That's just the reality.

00:17:40.880 Enough courage to say that.

00:17:44.780 There's a crisis of courage, unfortunately, among the sane people.

00:17:50.380 And that's why we're giving up reality.

00:17:54.380 And, um, and who knows what kind of, you know, world my kids are going to grow up in.

00:18:00.340 All right.

00:18:01.080 Um, speaking of, uh, of, of giving up on reality, CNN ran an article yesterday with, with this

00:18:07.500 title, and this is not a joke.

00:18:08.720 This is real.

00:18:09.840 The title is robot racism.

00:18:12.940 Yes.

00:18:13.440 Says a study showing humans biases extend to robots.

00:18:16.440 Now, the, the researchers in the study, and I, I swear to, I know this is a cliche at this

00:18:22.660 point, but when I saw that headline, I, I, at first I really thought it was the onion.

00:18:27.780 I really did.

00:18:28.360 I thought it was a joke.

00:18:29.560 It's not.

00:18:30.540 Um, the researchers in the study make the point that most of the robots you see are white.

00:18:36.200 And if you ever, you know, if you watched one of those clips of the robots being unveiled

00:18:42.260 in Japan or whatever, and, and, and, you know, usually they're white, right?

00:18:46.280 As in they're painted white.

00:18:48.280 And this is racism, you see.

00:18:50.560 So let me read a few very real sentences from this very real article.

00:18:55.760 Um, an article that does in fact exist in the actual real world.

00:18:58.720 And even when you read the article, you, if you didn't see CNN at the top, you would still

00:19:05.260 think, well, this is a parody.

00:19:06.460 This is satire.

00:19:07.360 It's not.

00:19:08.500 Um, so, uh, the article says in part, robots and racism, a study conducted by the human interface

00:19:13.920 technology laboratory in New Zealand and published by the country's university of Canterbury

00:19:18.160 suggests that people perceive physically human like robots to have a race and therefore

00:19:22.680 apply racial stereotypes to white and black robots.

00:19:25.320 These colors have been found to trigger social cues that determine how humans react to and

00:19:30.540 behave toward other people.

00:19:31.960 And also apparently robots.

00:19:33.980 Um, Christoph Bartnick, uh, explained that the bias against black robots is a result of

00:19:41.780 bias against African-Americans.

00:19:44.400 Oh yeah.

00:19:46.540 The bias against black robots.

00:19:49.600 He really said that with a straight face.

00:19:52.980 It's, it's amazing.

00:19:55.820 Continuing, um, it's amazing to see how people who had no prior interactions with robots show

00:20:01.320 racial bias towards robots.

00:20:04.580 The researchers think this is an issue that needs to be addressed.

00:20:08.460 If robots are supposed to function as teachers, friends, or carers, for instance, then it will

00:20:13.520 be a serious problem if all of these roles are only ever occupied by robots that are racialized 0.92

00:20:18.740 as white.

00:20:19.380 All right.

00:20:23.620 First of all, what you see here again is, uh, well, the first thing we could say here

00:20:28.900 is this is just amazingly stupid. 0.74

00:20:31.400 Even by the already very stupid standards of our society, this is incredibly, fantastically

00:20:38.420 stupid. 0.90

00:20:40.220 Um, the second thing is you find this projection, uh, a lot these days.

00:20:47.720 Where this person is saying, oh, these robots are racialized as white and they go, no, that's

00:20:54.040 you are doing that.

00:20:55.900 The rest of us aren't.

00:20:58.520 I have never in my life even contemplated the race of a robot or ever thought of it in those

00:21:04.460 terms.

00:21:05.720 And if you're telling me that we, okay, so a white robot has been racialized as white,

00:21:09.580 then what?

00:21:10.140 I mean, this, this white piece of paper, is this, is this, am I rationalizing this as a

00:21:14.240 white person?

00:21:15.120 Someone made the point yesterday, um, I forget who on Twitter that, uh, you know, toilets

00:21:20.580 are white.

00:21:21.640 So what does that, is that, is that, uh, and what do robots do?

00:21:28.620 They serve humans.

00:21:30.600 Robots are slaves to humans essentially.

00:21:34.860 So what does that mean?

00:21:36.440 It means if most robots were black, what would these researchers be saying?

00:21:40.260 They would say, oh, it's racist because black people, you know, black robots harken back 1.00

00:21:44.520 to slavery.

00:21:45.100 People are painting their robots black and that shows that they're, they have an innate desire,

00:21:49.620 uh, to enslave black people or something.

00:21:51.680 You know, that's what they would say.

00:21:53.520 You know it.

00:21:54.540 It is racist.

00:21:55.820 If you do racist, if you don't, this is one of the most perfect examples of that in

00:22:00.120 action.

00:22:00.800 All right.

00:22:01.400 Um, let's see what else here.

00:22:03.200 Here's a, a story that I've had in the doc for a few days.

00:22:09.680 I'm going to use the word shocking.

00:22:11.940 And I think that it is, I can say that without hyperbole.

00:22:14.880 I think it is a shocking story.

00:22:16.280 This is from the, uh, from the MIT technology review.

00:22:20.880 And the headline is scientists are making human monkey hybrids in China.

00:22:25.900 So let me, um, let me just read a little bit of this to you.

00:22:29.940 It says, uh, in a controversial first, a team of researchers have been creating embryos

00:22:36.460 that are part human and part monkey.

00:22:39.740 According to a report from the Spanish daily El Pais, according to the newspaper, the Spanish

00:22:45.720 born biologist, Juan Carlos, uh, who operates a lab at the Salk Institute in California has

00:22:51.120 been working with monkey researchers in China to perform the disturbing research.

00:22:55.300 Uh, the objective is to create human animal chimeras in this case, uh, monkey embryos to

00:23:04.120 which human cells are added.

00:23:06.460 The idea behind the research is to fashion animals that possess organs like a kidney or

00:23:11.240 liver made up entirely of human cells.

00:23:14.340 Such animals could be used as sources of organs for transplantation.

00:23:18.100 Um, and then it goes on for that.

00:23:21.260 This, of course, this kind of research is, is banned in the, um, in the United States,

00:23:27.160 but it's not banned in China, which is why they're doing it there in China.

00:23:33.080 I think what you find here now, ostensibly they're doing this because as it said there, I guess they're

00:23:38.080 looking to create animals that can be harvested for their organs.

00:23:42.180 If you could grow human organs inside animals, um, but what you find here again, and this is

00:23:50.160 the problem with stem cell research with IVF, with all these things that we do with humans

00:23:58.140 at the embryonic level, what you find, it's the, it's the commodification of the human person

00:24:05.400 where we look at people as commodities.

00:24:09.560 And that's why you find an, you know, IVF labs.

00:24:11.980 You have a bunch of leftover embryos, just you throw them in the freezer.

00:24:17.040 Like it's leftover chicken or something.

00:24:19.020 You just put it in there.

00:24:21.960 And this is a, this is a big problem when we start to see, look, you're either going to

00:24:27.820 see human beings as sacred, um, as beings of infinite, almost mystical value.

00:24:40.560 You're going to see them that way, or you're going to see them as commodities, as things

00:24:45.180 that can be used and experimented on and, uh, and stored in freezers and so on.

00:24:51.800 I think those are the only two ways to see the person, see a person.

00:24:54.440 It is sort of a, uh, that's the dichotomy.

00:24:59.600 If you go with the latter option and you see them as commodities, it's not hard to see where

00:25:04.120 it leads.

00:25:04.520 It's not hard to see the slippery slope.

00:25:07.900 If human beings are commodities at the embryonic level, then, you know, you just keep going

00:25:13.060 further and further down the stage of, of development.

00:25:17.720 Um, and you start to see people in general that way.

00:25:20.900 So this is a very concerning development.

00:25:23.000 All right, we're going to do some, uh, some emails, which I haven't had a chance to do

00:25:26.260 the last few days.

00:25:27.220 Matt Walsh show at gmail.com.

00:25:28.780 Matt Walsh show at gmail.com is the email address.

00:25:31.560 Um, let's see here.

00:25:33.840 It says, uh, this is from Cassandra says, hello, Mr. Walsh.

00:25:37.660 It is my son's 14th birthday today.

00:25:39.720 And both my boys enjoy your podcast.

00:25:41.920 My older son actually requires us to pick up the candles to blow them out after your birthday

00:25:45.780 cake episode.

00:25:46.780 Could you wish my son, Derek, happy birthday?

00:25:49.120 He'd like that.

00:25:49.680 Happy birthday, Derek.

00:25:50.420 And so Derek is not your oldest son then, I guess, based on that.

00:25:54.180 Uh, but I would urge Derek that we did talk about this.

00:25:56.960 When you blow out the birthday candles, Derek, make sure to pick up the candle, pick it out

00:26:03.560 out of the cake and blow it to, you don't want to, cause you don't want to blow your germs

00:26:09.160 and your mucus all over the cake. 0.74

00:26:10.980 It, you know, the cake does not, and I know it's your birthday, the cake does not need

00:26:14.560 a covering of Derek mucus.

00:26:17.240 It doesn't need it.

00:26:17.940 That's a, this is why I don't eat birthday cake.

00:26:20.160 It's very traumatizing for germaphobes like myself at every birthday.

00:26:23.300 When you see someone blowing in, in what, now I'm going to get off.

00:26:26.260 Now I'm going to go on a whole thing about this.

00:26:28.240 In what other context would you ever eat food that someone else has blown on?

00:26:33.780 Like if the, if the waitress was bringing you a steak and said, oh, it's a little hole.

00:26:38.240 It's a little hot.

00:26:38.780 Hold on a second.

00:26:39.720 And started blowing on it and then gave it to you.

00:26:42.520 Would you eat it?

00:26:43.580 No.

00:26:45.000 Stop blowing on your cakes, people.

00:26:46.420 Don't tell me it's a tradition.

00:26:48.040 Hey, there are a lot of things that have been traditions in human society, but we develop,

00:26:52.600 we become civilized.

00:26:54.780 People used to go out and, and, you know, and, and use the bathroom in a hole in the ground

00:26:59.000 in the backyard or, or in a pot, which they would then dump into the house.

00:27:03.200 We don't do that anymore.

00:27:06.440 Happy birthday, Derek.

00:27:12.080 Let's see.

00:27:12.620 This is from Kyle says, Matt of Colossal Intelligence.

00:27:16.540 I'm not sure if I have to subscribe to email you, but I recently saw this on an Instagram

00:27:20.280 story and could not believe what I was seeing.

00:27:23.020 This is a, she has an attachment and it's a meme that says, if you go on a mission trip

00:27:26.800 to see the kids in Mexico, but support a man whose goal is to put these kids and their

00:27:30.780 families in cages because they were fleeing the same poverty and violence you're trying

00:27:33.720 to help, then you didn't go on a mission.

00:27:35.880 You went for a photo op.

00:27:36.900 That's the, um, that's the, the meme that Kyle here is referring to.

00:27:41.740 Okay.

00:27:41.880 Back to Kyle.

00:27:42.340 It says, I believe this is wrong on multiple levels, namely the view of missions that is

00:27:46.540 presented here and the political view.

00:27:47.900 I know that you support missions wholeheartedly.

00:27:50.120 According to this, if you go on a mission trip, it's just for a photo op.

00:27:53.480 I could go on for a while about this, uh, but I will spare you a lengthy email and I will

00:27:57.800 let your Supreme Colossal Intelligence handle this.

00:28:00.360 I feel like, um, I should say something, but I would like to hear your take on this as well.

00:28:04.940 Love listening to your show while I'm at work.

00:28:06.560 Thanks for what you do.

00:28:07.220 Uh, yeah, obviously I, I disagree.

00:28:12.780 The point this meme is trying to make is I guess if you support, now they talk about

00:28:20.300 kids in cages, but what they're really saying is if you support enforcing our borders and

00:28:24.860 if you support enforcing immigration law, then you're somehow a hypocrite for going on mission

00:28:29.820 trips.

00:28:30.660 That obviously is ridiculous.

00:28:33.560 So that's point one.

00:28:35.420 Point two, however, I do think that it is sometimes the case.

00:28:43.020 That people go on mission trips as a photo op, uh, that in anyone who's been on a mission

00:28:48.480 trip, I think they, they, they won't deny this.

00:28:51.300 Not that it'd be the case for them personally, but they've seen it.

00:28:54.180 This is something that is, there's people, there are people who want to go on the mission

00:28:57.120 trip because, um, they want to get the pictures for Facebook and they go down there to wherever

00:29:03.640 it is, you know, wherever they're going and they don't really do much.

00:29:06.580 They swing a hammer.

00:29:07.320 They pose for pictures for Instagram and that's pretty much it.

00:29:10.240 Um, and I do think that's, that, that can be a problem.

00:29:14.720 So I think there are a lot of people who go on mission trips because they have a real

00:29:17.500 passion for helping people.

00:29:19.960 And then there are a lot of people who go because it's, it's a trip.

00:29:22.800 It's almost like vacation.

00:29:23.560 Um, and I think that that's, you know, we should make it clear to people.

00:29:29.820 And this is one, this is one thing, you know, you see schools and things, they go Christian 0.96

00:29:33.340 schools, they take, or, or churches, they get together big buses of people to go on mission

00:29:37.000 trips.

00:29:37.400 Again, it's a good idea.

00:29:38.700 I like it, but it's also bad for Christianity. 0.97

00:29:43.880 If you have a whole bunch of people down there who clearly are only there for the, for the

00:29:48.200 photos.

00:29:48.660 And that is a problem sometimes.

00:29:51.900 Um, but the point that they're making in the meme, of course, is untrue.

00:29:56.100 Uh, this is from Andrew says, you recently were talking about the death penalty and I

00:30:02.140 agree 100% with you, but I was talking with my best friend recently, who's a seminarian

00:30:05.960 and he presented an argument that made me reconsider my stance on the subject.

00:30:10.080 He basically argued that the person in prison can find redemption while living out his sentence.

00:30:15.000 The death penalty will end his chances of finding it in God's time.

00:30:18.680 I got stumped on this.

00:30:19.780 So I'm wondering how you would respond.

00:30:21.500 Thank you for all that you do.

00:30:22.980 And I'm ready to face my death penalty like a man when you become dictator.

00:30:25.800 Well, that's, that's good to know, uh, because you will, Andrew.

00:30:31.740 Yeah, this is an argument I hear a lot from, from Christians about the death penalty. 1.00

00:30:37.140 It's an argument when I was anti-death penalty, it's, it wasn't my main argument against it,

00:30:41.720 but it was something that concerned me.

00:30:44.340 Here's what I would say to that.

00:30:46.200 Um, especially in our country.

00:30:48.840 Now we don't live in a country where we have summary execution, uh, where you're tried,

00:30:53.620 found guilty.

00:30:54.240 They take you out back and shoot you that day.

00:30:56.680 That's not how it works in this country.

00:30:58.080 In this country, you've got sometimes decades on death row, which I think is too long.

00:31:04.380 Now I could sometimes see the appeal and the efficiency of the summary execution approach,

00:31:10.060 but I wouldn't be in favor of that.

00:31:12.520 Um, I think giving people, I don't think we need to give people 20 years.

00:31:16.680 I think that's too long, but whatever, a few years, a period of time, a length of time when

00:31:24.360 they're on death row.

00:31:25.200 And if they have that time, which again, people in this country do, then that's, I think that's

00:31:31.020 a lot of time, not only to, uh, get right with God as it were, but you're on death row.

00:31:40.460 You're facing your own death.

00:31:42.180 You are every day facing your own mortality.

00:31:46.240 And so I guess my feeling is if that's not going to be enough to drive you to repentance,

00:31:50.800 if that's not enough, you know, if, if spending five years on death row with death right in the

00:31:57.000 name, you're literally in a row in prison waiting to be killed. 0.67

00:32:01.220 If that's not going to, not going to be enough to bring you to repentance, uh, to bring about

00:32:06.180 some kind of spiritual awakening, then, you know, I don't think 30 years or 40 years just

00:32:12.460 wallowing in a prison cell will do it.

00:32:16.120 Um, I mean, you, you could make the argument that, um, as far as giving people a chance to

00:32:21.600 repent, maybe the death penalties is better for that because it does cause people to confront

00:32:28.640 their own mortality and it still gives them time to repent.

00:32:32.980 Um, this is from Stephanie says, Hey, Matt, big fan of your show.

00:32:38.640 You're mixed between dry humor and profound thoughts is really refreshing and fun to listen

00:32:41.580 to.

00:32:41.920 I'm a young Catholic woman in my mid twenties all around me.

00:32:44.960 I see all these beautiful young women with equally beautiful personalities and faith lives

00:32:49.020 who are inexplicably single where I see on one hand, a surplus of fantastic single Catholic 0.63

00:32:54.740 women being called to the vocation of marriage and motherhood.

00:32:57.000 On the other, I see a lack of good Catholic single men.

00:33:00.080 Most of the ones I know live crazy, sinful lived crazy, sinful lives and are now prowling

00:33:05.020 for a good Catholic woman, but not because they had a conversion of faith, but because they've

00:33:09.540 had their fill of the hookup phase and just want a good woman to check a box for nuclear 1.00

00:33:13.740 family.

00:33:14.440 It's repulsive and frankly, insulting and discouraging that this seems to be what's left for single 1.00

00:33:17.860 Catholic women who strive for a rich relationship to God with God, but we're not lucky enough 0.98

00:33:22.700 to meet their spouse earlier in life.

00:33:25.020 My question is, do you have any advice for these women? 0.99

00:33:28.200 And when you are a Supreme dictator, can you implement laws that force young men to stop

00:33:31.900 act, stop acting so pathetic and selfish? 0.69

00:33:34.500 Because while a guy can get married and have kids whenever he wants us, women have an expiration 1.00

00:33:38.580 date on our eggs and we can't wait forever for y'all to grow up.

00:33:42.640 Uh, you know, Stephanie, it's interesting because I get this type of question from young Christian

00:33:47.000 guys all the time in the reverse, wondering where all the good Christian women are.

00:33:52.500 Uh, so it seems like you guys are looking for each other, but your, your, your signals are

00:33:55.860 getting crossed here.

00:33:57.140 Um, you're, you're, you're both getting lost amid the fog of modern culture and amid a fog

00:34:02.260 that is admittedly filled with a lot of, um, prospects that are not very promising, you know,

00:34:10.060 the dating scene, but on, but in, in mid that crowd, there are people, men and women that

00:34:17.780 are sort of looking for each other.

00:34:19.540 So what I would say is, and I'm not saying you're doing this, but I do want to mention

00:34:24.980 that you shouldn't hold, you mentioned, you said guys who lived crazy, sinful lives and

00:34:29.660 you said lived past tense.

00:34:31.480 Um, I think it is important that you shouldn't hold someone's past against them.

00:34:35.420 There are plenty of people who lived crazy, sinful lives, as you say, and are now trying

00:34:39.460 to put that behind them and trying to be different.

00:34:42.500 Um, so I would say, don't judge a man by his past.

00:34:45.120 I mean, there are exceptions, right?

00:34:47.080 But if it's, if there's something really dark and terrible in their past, then maybe I would

00:34:52.340 stay clear to that.

00:34:53.220 But, um, but for the most part, especially when it comes to these things that unfortunately in

00:34:58.700 our culture are just sort of run of the mill, you know, if there's a guy who sort of acted

00:35:02.480 like a normal 20 year old guy when he was 20, it's not an excuse, but, uh, if he's now

00:35:08.140 25 or 30 and he's grown up and he's moved past that, then I would let him move past it.

00:35:14.480 I think this goes into something I wanted to talk about, uh, probably still will maybe next

00:35:18.220 week.

00:35:19.420 Haven't had the time yet.

00:35:20.560 Um, and that's about the guy who wrote the, uh, why I kiss dating goodbye book back in

00:35:25.160 the nineties, who was a Christian pastor, but he has since.

00:35:28.280 And I didn't realize that this until this week, but he, he, he long ago, he renounced

00:35:32.200 that book and apologized for it.

00:35:35.360 Um, and most recently this past week, he announced that he's not actually Christian anymore and

00:35:39.980 he's getting divorced from his wife, which is just a sad situation.

00:35:43.380 And that's all aside from the point here, but there is a conversation to be had about

00:35:47.200 the idea of Christian purity.

00:35:49.440 Um, I think on one hand, it's, it's good to strive for purity, obviously.

00:35:55.600 And much of what's in that book, which I haven't read, but I, I know the gist of it.

00:36:00.520 Um, so from what I understand of that book, I agree with, with much of it, but I do think

00:36:06.700 the concept of Christian purity can have negative side effects.

00:36:09.820 And one of those side effects is the idea that a person who has a past, a person who has committed

00:36:14.160 sins is now somehow stained, somehow defective, um, somehow ruined by it.

00:36:20.160 Um, like they can't move past it, like they can never be a good Christian. 0.87

00:36:25.020 And I worry that, um, people believe that about themselves and that maybe some Christians

00:36:32.100 on the dating scene believe it about others on the dating scene, where maybe they look

00:36:36.960 at a guy and they say, oh no, look at it.

00:36:38.880 You know, you see his past, look at his, look at the way he used to live.

00:36:42.100 He's damaged goods.

00:36:43.000 Now I, I, I think, um, we're sort of conscious of that problem with, with women, um, where 1.00

00:36:51.440 we, you know, uh, uh, where a woman can feel that way about herself wrongly, that she's somehow

00:36:56.120 damaged goods because of her past. 0.87

00:36:57.820 Guys can feel that way too about themselves, Christian guys.

00:37:00.980 So I would say, watch out for that.

00:37:02.340 And, um, as for actually finding the good men out there, all I can say, and this was not

00:37:07.340 gonna be very helpful, but all I can say is, uh, be decisive and direct and open about

00:37:12.700 what you want, what you want.

00:37:13.920 You're looking for a serious relationship, one that might be headed somewhere to marriage,

00:37:17.860 maybe, right?

00:37:19.120 Ultimately in good time.

00:37:20.500 So be open about that.

00:37:22.080 And I think if you're open about that fact, um, you're going to automatically weed out

00:37:27.600 most of the bad apples because the bad apples are not interested in commitment minded women. 1.00

00:37:34.260 If you find a Christian guy, whatever it was in his past, doesn't matter. 0.96

00:37:38.720 If you find a Christian guy who appears now to be a decent guy and he's looking, 1.00

00:37:42.700 and you're a commitment minded and he knows that about you and he still injures you,

00:37:46.680 then that's, he's probably, that's, that's good.

00:37:49.480 That's, he's probably a good guy.

00:37:51.400 Um, regardless of, of what he might have done in the past.

00:37:54.540 So that's what I would say to that.

00:37:56.460 Thank you for the, uh, the emails and remember mattwalshshow at gmail.com for any other emails

00:38:00.580 and, uh, we'll leave it there.

00:38:01.880 Have a great weekend, everybody.

00:38:03.140 Godspeed.

00:38:03.540 If you prefer facts over feelings, if you aren't offended by the brutal truth,

00:38:21.200 if you can still laugh at the nuttiness filling our national news cycle,

00:38:24.280 well, tune on into the Ben Shapiro show where you'll get a whole lot of that and much more.

00:38:28.280 We'll see you there.

The Matt Walsh Show - August 02, 2019

Ep. 309 - The Courage To Be Sane

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