Epstein was found hanging from a bunk bed in a federal prison, and there are many theories as to what could have caused him to do such a thing. Also, the FDA announces that drinking bleach won t cure cancer or autism.
00:00:00.000Okay, important news here. The FDA has announced that, well, they're claiming anyway, that drinking bleach won't cure cancer or autism, which, you know, that's what I have to say to that. I've been drinking bleach for years and I don't have cancer. So what, I mean, what other proof do you need?
00:00:20.420Sure, my internal organs sometimes leak out of my nose, but I mean, that's just part of growing up. That's part of getting older. To clarify, kids, that is a joke. Definitely don't drink bleach. I had no idea that drinking bleach to cure disease was a thing. Apparently it is. Definitely don't do that.
00:00:40.460I'm not sure why we needed the FDA to announce this. I guess maybe next they'll announce that, you know, drinking out of a public toilet won't cure diabetes. I mean, there are a lot of things that won't cure things. So it's just general, general advice there.
00:00:55.980All right, let's look at the latest briefly here in the Epstein case before we move on. We're now being told that Epstein was found, and this was the news last night, he was found hanging with a sheet, a bed sheet around his neck. They say that he tied the sheet to the top of a bunk bed, made a noose, and then somehow hung himself that way.
00:01:18.660Now, it's a little hard to picture, I guess, because Epstein was, what, six feet tall, and the bunk, I mean, how tall could the bunk bed have been? Couldn't have been, I mean, it's a jail cell. I'm assuming this isn't a 20-foot tall bunk bed, but that's what they say. That's how they say they found him.
00:01:38.340This is still confusing for a number of reasons. First of all, there was a former inmate at this particular prison who came out a couple days ago and said that, well, he said that it was impossible that Epstein could have killed himself, in his opinion, because there would be no way to do it.
00:01:54.780He said that the sheets, the bed sheets are like paper thin, so you wouldn't be able, they would break if you tried to use it for that purpose. Though this guy didn't factor in a bunk bed.
00:02:05.480You know, he was imagining a cell without a bunk bed, but this had a bunk bed. And that's the other thing that doesn't make sense, is you've got the most important inmate in the federal prison system in your custody, the most important inmate because of the testimony he could provide.
00:02:17.880Um, and he's attempted suicide before, supposedly. And so then you leave him alone with a bed sheet and a bunk bed. I mean, and you don't check on him for hours. That just makes no sense to me.
00:02:34.380So I have a feeling that the latest report here will not do much to quell the conspiracy theories, um, especially because nobody has any faith in our governing institutions. Like we talked about yesterday, nobody trusts anything they tell us.
00:02:46.560And so that's, that's also going to make it not much better, but it's still, it, it, it just doesn't make any sense. If considering, even if he wasn't, uh, important because of the testimony, even if, even if it's just a, even if this was just an average, ordinary federal prison inmate, the fact that he's attempted suicide recently, it's not like it was two years ago.
00:03:06.840So he's attempted suicide in the last month and you leave him with a bed sheet and a bunk bed. It, it, it, that doesn't really make any sense to me at all. All right. Now let's, um, let's take a look at this as we move on quickly. CNN anchor, Chris Cuomo was out, I think to dinner with his family a couple of nights ago. Um, when somebody decided to heckle him and secretly record his Cuomo's reaction,
00:03:35.240there's video, there's video, which I'll play for you in a second. But of course the video only shows Cuomo's reaction. It doesn't show what was said to him. Um, so we should always, we should always keep that in mind when you see video like this and you're only seeing one side, it picks up in the middle of the conversation and somebody is reacting to something. Anytime you see a video that begins with a person's reaction to something,
00:04:04.120but you don't see what they're reacting to that should make you, um, that should be a red flag. So, uh, he, but we know that whatever this guy said to Cuomo to set him off, it included calling him a Fredo and Fredo of course is the, one of the brothers in the Godfather, kind of the flunky, stupid brother who gets passed over to become the Godfather in, in favor of Michael, Michael.
00:04:34.120We own at the end of the second movie, um, which as far as I'm concerned, the end of the second movie is the end of the Godfather series because Godfather three doesn't exist in my, my truth is that Godfather three doesn't exist. Anyway, Cuomo, uh, didn't take too kindly to this bit of mockery. And so here's how that unfolded. Watch this.
00:04:53.120I thought that, I thought, I thought that's who you were from the right. Call me Fredo. My name is Chris Cuomo. I'm an anchor on CNN. You're much Fredo is from the Godfather. It was our weak brother.
00:05:04.720Isn't that your brother? And they use it as an Italian aspersion. Any of you Italian? I'm a little bit. I got a little bit. It's a insult to your people. It's an insult to your people. It's like the N word for us. Is that a cool thing?
00:05:16.120You're a much more reasonable guy in person than you seem to be on television. Yeah, but if you want to play, then we'll play. You've got something you want to say about what I do on television and say it, but don't be going to call me a f***ing insult. Hey, hey, listen. I don't want any problems, bro. You're going to have a big f***ing problem. What's the problem? It's a little different on TV. Don't f***ing insult me like that. I didn't insult you. You call me Fredo. It's like I call you punk. You like that? You want that to be your nickname? I didn't call you that. You called me Fredo. You know my name's not f***ing Fredo. I thought your name was. You did not think my name was f***ing Fredo. Don't be a liar. You want to be a man. You want to be a man.
00:05:46.120Stand up like a man. I'm standing up, man. You want to be a man out here. Get f***ing on it. Get on what you said. Get on what you said. I don't have a problem with you, man. You're going to have a f***ing problem. What? What are you going to do about it? I'll f***ing ruin your s***, man. I'll f***ing throw you down these stairs like a f***ing punk. Please do.
00:06:01.160Now, judging by social media, a lot of conservatives are giving Cuomo a hard time about this. Painting him as the bad guy in the situation. Acting offended. Like a bunch of wilting little flowers. Traumatized by the fact that Cuomo used bad language. Oh, he used bad language. He threatened violence. Oh my goodness. I've never seen such a thing. I'm so traumatized.
00:06:30.200They've got their fans out and they're fanning them. That's how a lot of white right-wingers on social media right now. That's how I imagine them. I imagine them typing. In the other hand, they've got a fan and they're fanning themselves to prevent themselves from fainting. They just can't believe the language. The language used.
00:06:45.660There are people acting offended that Cuomo claimed Fredo is an ethnic slur against Italians. Obviously, that is absurd. Fredo is not an ethnic slur. It's an insult. It's a personal insult.
00:07:00.660Usually used against someone who is considered the dumb or weak one in the family. If someone's calling you Fredo, they're not making any reference to you being Italian because that's an insult that can be used whether you're Italian or not.
00:07:16.600Just to be clear, just so you know how you're being insulted, what they're saying is that you are the dumb, weak, irrelevant one in the family. That's just so you know what they're saying about you.
00:07:25.560Fredo doesn't refer to Italian heritage. It refers to family dynamics. Cuomo obviously was wrong to call it an ethnic slur, of course.
00:07:37.120With that said, I firmly believe and have always believed and have always said that heckling a public figure and secretly recording their reaction to try and get clicks is a punk move.
00:07:52.420It is a punk move, an absolute punk move, and I hate it. I really hate it. I don't care who the target is. To me, the politics of it don't matter. I just absolutely hate it.
00:08:07.320To harass this guy, he's not doing anything to you. You don't like his show. You think he's a biased news. All right, whatever. Who cares?
00:08:17.500He's out with his family. And you come up to him and start mouthing off. The guy filming it deserved to be treated exactly as he was treated.
00:08:30.540And again, I don't see how the politics matter here. This is just man to man, right? And that's what Cuomo thought this was.
00:08:38.120He didn't realize he was being filmed. He didn't realize this was a bit that was going to end up on YouTube.
00:08:44.900He thought this was man to man, and that's how he was treating it. He said, look, man to man. You need to back down.
00:08:51.800And I respect Cuomo more for that. I guess I'm apparently in a small minority. I respect him more after seeing that.
00:08:58.800Um, my respect actually went up. I didn't have a lot of respect before. I still don't have a ton, but it's, it has, the respect at least has, uh, has gone that, you know, has gone in the upward direction on the, on the bar graph.
00:09:11.360Um, yeah, the ethnic slur thing was dumb, but, but whatever he, he didn't make, that wasn't a public claim that he was making.
00:09:19.040He didn't know he was being reported. The main point is that Cuomo manned up. He handled his business.
00:09:25.020He called the troll out on his crap and he made the troll back down. And I respect that.
00:09:30.860Look, trolls are accustomed to being loud mouth jerks online and running their mouths to whoever they want.
00:09:41.360Saying whatever they want without repercussion. Um, that's what trolls online are used to doing.
00:09:47.700I mean, they're, they're, they are weak, spineless cowards. And on the rare occasion that a troll tries that garbage face to face with someone,
00:09:56.980I am always happy to see them slap down for it rhetorically, maybe even physically. Uh, just because I, I just think you treat someone like that.
00:10:06.920You, you deserve what comes man to man. You deserve it. Now, as I said, a lot of people on the right are acting scandalized by this,
00:10:16.020but we all know, here's the thing. Let's again, man to man or man to woman, whoever's, whoever you are watching this right now.
00:10:25.320If you're a conservative, all right, just, we don't need to lie to each other. We can be honest. All right. There's no, it's just me and you.
00:10:34.740There's no one else here except for all the people watching, but let's be honest with you. We know if that was a Fox news host, um, then you would be defending it.
00:10:46.660So if you're pretending to be outraged by it or offended, or is that, Oh, that was way overboard. I mean, uh, yes, to respond is okay, but to threaten violence. Well, that's just, that's just going too far.
00:10:58.340You know, you wouldn't be saying that if this was Tucker Carlson. In fact, there was a video of Tucker Carlson responding in a similar way to someone who was, uh, heckling him.
00:11:07.540And with that, I, I took Tucker Carlson's side. I said, yeah, well, he deserved, yeah, he could, you're, you're coming at a man when he's out with his family. This isn't the internet anymore. You punk. I mean, if, if you come to someone like that, you're, this is, this is how you might get treated. Don't go crying about it. Be a man. And then don't put the video online and say, look at what this mean man said to me to stop that man up.
00:11:35.620So with, with Tucker Carlson, I said, I'm fully on board with Tucker Carlson. From what I remember, he, I forget all the details of that, but he, he was using foul language and good for him. You know, good for him.
00:11:50.860Um, but again, as a conservative, if you're pretending to be offended by this or whatever, with Tucker Carlson, you defended that. I know you did. Um, and if this was Sean Hannity or, I mean, if this was, if this was, uh, Donald Trump,
00:12:04.580who was caught on video, it take that exact video, everything the same. I mean, the Fredo comment would
00:12:11.840make less sense because Trump's not Italian, but take that video. Everything's the same, but it's,
00:12:17.400but it's Trump caught on camera responding to a heckler that way. Or in fact, forget about that.
00:12:23.000If he was on, if he was on stage in front of millions responding to a heckler like that,
00:12:27.980you would be applauding it. And you know, you would, you and I both know that.
00:12:34.580Okay. You don't need to lie to me or lie to yourself. So this is a double standard. And this
00:12:40.120is what I just can't, when we all, you know, when there's a double standard and people are doing this
00:12:47.100performative fake outrage thing, you know, we all know that it's fake. So I, the, the performative,
00:12:55.340uh, the performatively outraged mob, how do they, when they're, when they're all looking at each other,
00:13:00.840like, they all know that they're faking it, that they don't really care. And that if this was
00:13:04.540someone else, they'd be defending it. So let's just, let's just cut, let's just, let's just cut
00:13:11.680the crap. It's so boring. It's so, I'm so bored by it. I am so, that's the main thing. I is not even,
00:13:20.760my, my main problem is not even an ethical problem. Although there's that because it's dishonest,
00:13:25.600but my main thing is I'm just so bored. I mean, everything that happens, I know exactly what
00:13:31.420everyone's going to say, depending, okay, what's the politics? Whose side is this guy on? Okay.
00:13:36.140Let's pretend. Oh, geez. Just stop already. This was a man. This is, this is how two men,
00:13:42.820oh, well, he threatened violence. That's how, that's how guys talk to each other. I got news for you.
00:13:47.960When two guys, when they think that, you know, when they, especially when they don't know that
00:13:51.240they're being filmed secretly, um, this is how two guys talk to each other when they're pissed off.
00:13:58.200It's not a big deal. You know, this is, if you go harassing a guy, especially if he's out with his
00:14:03.220family, uh, you might say that, yeah, I'm going to throw you down the steps. He's not really going
00:14:06.560to do it. It's just how guys talk. Why are we pretending? We don't know that. Why are there men
00:14:13.920online pretending? Well, I never, I would never talk to a person like that. This is so inappropriate.
00:14:22.380Shut up. Um, that's, that's really, I, I'm at the point now where I don't even know how I can do this
00:14:31.040job anymore because my main reaction to like 90% of the controversies on either side. Now my main
00:14:36.480reaction is just shut up already. You, you, please just stop. We all know. Um, but then of
00:14:46.180course, but what I've been told is that, uh, I've been informed, uh, this morning as I, you know, I
00:14:52.820was, I was trying to make this point on social media and, uh, I've been informed as I always am
00:14:57.660that if you don't join in the fake performative outrage with conservatives, then you're a traitor
00:15:02.540to the cause. This is why we lose. I was told, I don't even know who we is anymore. What do you
00:15:09.560mean? We, and what are we trying to win? I don't even know anymore. All right. Um, let's go from a
00:15:18.840video. I will defend, which you just saw to a video. I most definitely will not defend here. I hope we can
00:15:25.840all have agreement. Um, at least on the right, we can agree on this, that what you're about to see here
00:15:31.720is despicably disgusting, disgustingly despicable. However you want to put it. Uh, we've discussed
00:15:38.500plenty of times, these crazy, gross, demented drag queen story hours, uh, which are now officially
00:15:45.180a thing. Um, they're a thing all across the dying Western world, men in dresses come to read stories
00:15:51.900to children, but sometimes they do more than read stories. I mean, reading the stories bad enough
00:15:56.100because they're dressed up like, uh, like some cartoon, some, some macabre cartoon of a woman.
00:16:03.020Um, uh, but here, here's a, here's a, a drag queen story hour that went, uh, much further than
00:16:10.500that. Devon library in the UK had one of these events recently and a drag queen, a dude who goes
00:16:15.880by the name mama G. Um, which is by the way, totally normal, right? I mean, for, for a guy to dress up
00:16:22.520like a woman, call himself mama G totally normal. Now we can't criticize that. Uh, God forbid we
00:16:28.380suggest that there must be something, you know, mentally, uh, out of sorts with a part with a man
00:16:33.680who, who spends his time. No, no, no, no, no. We could never, we could never suggest such a thing.
00:16:36.960It's totally normal completely. And, and to want to, as a man, uh, to want to dress up as a woman,
00:16:42.300to read stories to children, you know, to say, Oh, I want to dress up like a woman so that I can be
00:16:46.260around kids. Totally normal. No, nothing we could possibly say to criticize that.
00:16:53.660So here's mama G. Uh, he decided to take things in an even creepier direction than usual. I
00:16:59.360warn you that what you're about to witness is extremely disturbing.
00:17:02.420Would you like to do some of those funny little dances from Fortnite? Does anybody know any of the
00:17:06.840dances from Fortnite? Oh, then you are a credit to your community. But most of all, Michael likes to
00:17:15.300twerk. Now, does anybody in this room know how to twerk? All right, well, it's quite
00:17:21.460important to the story, so I will just give you a very quick demonstration. All you need to do is
00:17:25.780you just stand with your feet sort of shoulder-width apart, like so, okay? And I'll show, I'll show you
00:17:30.260at the side, so you can get a better view that way. And you, you're crouched down into this sort of
00:17:34.180position here, so your bum's sticking out. I hope you're taking this all in. And then you just move your
00:17:38.980bum up and down like that, and that's twerking.
00:17:44.500Yeah, so there you go. Uh, that is, yes, that, that, that is exactly what it looks like. Um, that is a man
00:17:53.220in a dress at a library teaching young children how to twerk.
00:18:00.500I don't have to explain, probably, so I won't go into much detail explaining that twerking is a,
00:18:10.740is meant to be a, a sexually suggestive, a very sexually suggestive dance move. That's what it is.
00:18:19.280Um, and so this guy is, is, is giving a demonstration to children and to make it so much
00:18:29.060worse, you know, if, if this was just some crazy psycho lunatic who ran into a room where there are
00:18:40.800a bunch of kids and started twerking, I would be much less angry about it because then I could say,
00:18:47.300okay, well, this is just, this is an isolated incident. This is, this is a psycho. Let's get
00:18:51.500them off the streets, lock them in a, in a loony bin, um, get them away from kids. And so then I
00:18:58.160could say that it's a, it's a, it's an isolated thing. It's one guy. It's one. I know crazy people
00:19:02.100are out there, but this is guys crazy. We got them off the streets now. Okay. What makes this so
00:19:08.620infuriating on such a deep level and so disgusting is not even the behavior of this guy who clearly
00:19:17.100is, is, is mentally disturbed, but it's the parents who are sitting there chuckling and laughing
00:19:25.560while a grown man teaches their, you know, six and seven year old kids how to twerk.
00:19:32.900What kind of a man, imagine the, the fathers that are in that room just sitting there laughing.
00:19:41.400Isn't that adorable? That grown man's teaching my four-year-old daughter how to twerk. This is so
00:19:48.380charming. Imagine, I, I, I, I can't imagine it. Well, it's, it's, it's, it's what's happening.
00:19:58.480So I don't need to imagine it, but I can't wrap my head around that mentality as a father.
00:20:03.380You know, I'm just waiting to see one of these drag queen story hours or something like this is
00:20:12.000happening and to have a, you know, a father come in and pull a Chris Cuomo. Not that I'm advocating
00:20:17.860violence, but I'll put, I'll put it to you this way. If I walked into a room and there was a man in
00:20:26.560address, um, sexually harassing, because that's what this is, sexually harassing my six-year-old
00:20:33.140daughter, I, I wouldn't be chuckling along. I'll put it that way. Okay. I would respond in a way
00:20:39.780that would not include applauding or expressing my approval. I would, I would express my disapproval
00:20:46.160in a, in a, in a very unmistakable way. That's all I'm going to say. And, but you never see that
00:20:52.020instead. You just see, you just see these, these hen pecked dads and, and moms sitting
00:20:59.400around the sidelines watching this happen. If this, if we lived in a sane world, um, that
00:21:08.800man who is again, sexually harassing, sexually abusing that to me, that's sexual abuse. You
00:21:16.520know, I, I see that as sexual abuse, what you just witnessed there. And if we lived in a sane
00:21:22.880country, even though this wasn't this, our country, but if we lived in a sane world, that
00:21:26.700guy would be arrested and all of the parents will be arrested for at a minimum parental
00:21:32.360neglect, if not active parental abuse. All right. Um, on a related note, the daily wire,
00:21:42.920if I can pull it up, has a story that is, uh, on the website right now, but read a little
00:21:49.960bit of, of this too. So it's that a T a teacher at a middle school in Northern California,
00:21:53.960California triggered outrage from parents after he handed out a gender identity graphic, allegedly
00:21:59.520to explain why he preferred to be called M X rather than Mr. On the first day of school.
00:22:05.320So he wanted his, uh, you know, prefix to be rather than Mr. MX. How do you, how do you
00:22:11.520say MX? So MR is Mr. MX is what? What is that? Mick, mixture? Mix? Is it mix? So stupid.
00:22:25.220Uh, Luis Davila Alvarado, who teaches seventh and eighth grade science at Denair middle school,
00:22:33.160used a gender unicorn graphic from trans student education resources to explain his choice of
00:22:39.200preferred pronoun to a group of children between the ages of 12 and 14. Um, and then, uh, it goes
00:22:46.760on from there. He gave out this, uh, gave out this, this graphic now much to the credit of the
00:22:56.180principal. Um, the principal happened to come into the classroom while this was going on.
00:23:03.480Um, and she took one look at the, at the gender unicorn graphic and she said, no, no, no, we're
00:23:10.300not doing this. And she had, she had him take all the, all of the worksheets back. So, so good for
00:23:15.700her on that. But parents were upset as rightly they should be. Let's take a look at this gender
00:23:21.240unicorn. The gender unicorn is related to the gender bred person, which is a similarly creepy
00:23:26.640worksheet that schools give out sometimes. Uh, so I'll put this up on the screen so you can see,
00:23:30.580here's the gender unicorn. And as you can see, well, there's the gender unicorn right there
00:23:35.500teaching us about, uh, all kinds of things about gender. And so, you know, you, you just, you know,
00:23:43.980it's, it's not just that there's, there isn't just one, uh, spectrum. Okay. As you can see here,
00:23:51.140there's like four different spectrums. There's the gender identity spectrum at the top there.
00:23:55.640Um, there's the gender expression spectrum. And then there's the spectrum of who you're sexually
00:24:02.640attracted to. And then also who you're emotionally attracted to. So according to this, and this is
00:24:08.220science, this was handed out in a science class. Uh, you could be a man who identifies as a woman
00:24:16.360yet has a masculine gender expression, um, who is sexually attracted to women, but emotionally
00:24:25.320attracted to men who identify as women. Like that's a, that's a, that's a combination that's
00:24:30.240possible here. Um, now, now we are, we're differentiating between sexually attracted to
00:24:37.400and emotionally attracted to, but this science, this is what's, this is supposed to be science.
00:24:44.020Now, listen, uh, years in the future, hundreds of years from now, thousands of years when, uh,
00:24:54.340archaeologists of the future are digging up the remains of our pitiful civilization.
00:25:03.220And they come across something like this, the gender unicorn. Now, of course this is on paper,
00:25:09.420so they probably wouldn't find it, but, but, uh, if this was engraved on a stone tablet somewhere
00:25:13.400and they came across this, they would look at that and anthropologists would study this
00:25:19.360and they would come to the conclusion that, um, this is part of this, this is part of the,
00:25:25.360the, the religious activity of some kind of religious cult.
00:25:30.300They would look at the gender unicorn and all this stuff about spectrums and gender identity,
00:25:35.060and they would assume that this was the, uh, you know, the worship activity of some kind of cult.
00:25:45.640And of course they would be correct because that's what this is. I mean, this is superstition.
00:25:50.160This is religion. And I don't mean to use religion as a pejorative, but that's what this is. And,
00:25:57.400you know, there are crazy religions out there. Not all religions are crazy in my view, but some are,
00:26:01.960and this is a crazy religion. It's got nothing to do with science at all. Obviously there is no,
00:26:08.840none of this has any relationship at all with biology or anything scientific or even psychology.
00:26:15.640Uh, it's, this is, this is superstition all the way through.
00:26:22.040And it's being taught, um, at least in some schools.
00:26:25.580All right, let's go to emails, mattwalshowatgmail.com, mattwalshowatgmail.com.
00:26:32.720This is from McKenzie says, my husband and I have been thinking about the whole Epstein situation,
00:26:37.780and we have a theory, not sure if it's a conspiracy theory or not, but we think that Epstein is
00:26:42.200not really dead, but that he's in protective custody. There are a lot of people who would
00:26:46.840want him dead. And it just seems too convenient that he had the chance to kill himself. I personally
00:26:50.500haven't heard anything about seeing a body thoughts. Uh, yeah, McKenzie, I've, I've seen this,
00:26:55.840I guess as we talked about yesterday, the sort of normal conspiracy theories with, with the Epstein
00:27:02.120case are totally reasonable and justified. Um, so to, to wonder if maybe someone got to him and
00:27:11.820staged it to look like a suicide. I don't think that's crazy at all. I think that that's certainly
00:27:15.800a possibility, but because the normal conspiracy theories are normal, then I guess people, we,
00:27:21.560we, we need to come up with, you know, even crazier conspiracy theories. And that's where
00:27:24.980this comes from. And no offense, I don't mean it as an insult, but this is the idea that he's still
00:27:30.560alive. And he was, he was, you know, they, they shuffled him off somewhere to hide him. I've heard
00:27:35.600two versions of this theory, which is it's a theory. There's no evidence for this theory, McKenzie.
00:27:39.760This is just something that, that, you know, you've, and others have sort of come up with in,
00:27:44.680in your heads. Um, so the, the two versions of the theory that I've seen are, okay, maybe the
00:27:51.360powerful, you know, people in the, in the, in Epstein sex cult, maybe they found a way to rescue
00:27:57.840him and bring him to some Island somewhere. So there's that. And then the other version is maybe
00:28:02.440it's the government did this so that they could put him in protective custody and hide them somewhere,
00:28:06.740uh, while, while they get information from both of these things are, it, no, that, that didn't
00:28:13.660happen. Um, again, there's no reason to think that there was a body, first of all. Um, in fact,
00:28:18.980there's even, there's even, there are even pictures of his body out there. If you really want to go
00:28:21.780see him, you can, although I don't recommend it. So there was a body. Uh, there's no re there's no
00:28:28.180evidence for this at all. See, anytime something happens, you can come up with a theory. You can come up
00:28:35.120with a million theories that fit the facts as we know them, but just because you've invented a
00:28:40.460theory that fits, fits the facts, that doesn't mean that there's any, that there's any real
00:28:43.800justification. It doesn't mean that it's a reasonable theory, that there's any reason to
00:28:46.880actually think that. I mean, I could say that Epstein was abducted by aliens that fits the facts as we
00:28:54.380know them, but that doesn't mean that's a reasonable theory or plausible. And this just isn't
00:29:01.780plausible at all. Because first of all, uh, certainly the, the people in Epstein's sex cult,
00:29:07.520which that is a real thing, uh, but they would have no interest in keeping Epstein alive.
00:29:13.260They, if they could get to him, they would kill him. They wouldn't, they wouldn't bring him off
00:29:16.620somewhere so he could live out the rest of his days. No, he's a, he's a liability. And so they
00:29:20.000want him dead. The idea, the idea that the government would do this. Well, it's just, there's no reason
00:29:24.940for them to do that. They could, they could have easily kept him safe in prison. All they had to do
00:29:30.140was actually keep an eye on them, which they didn't do. So there's, there, there's no history
00:29:38.800of our government faking someone's death so that they can then keep them safe somewhere and
00:29:43.100protect them. We have ways of keeping people safe. You can do it. You just have to actually
00:29:46.620put them in protective custody and then protect them. That's all you got to do. Not to mention,
00:29:51.580I mean, I, uh, I imagine Epstein's lawyers and, and, and the lawyers of the other famous and rich
00:29:58.060people out there would have a field day with this. If, if the government tries to use the
00:30:03.340testimony of someone whose death they faked, there are all kinds of legal problems there.
00:30:09.540I would imagine, uh, because that is not following proper legal protocols. And so I don't, what,
00:30:15.320what, how, what good would the testimony be if it came from someone who you claimed is dead?
00:30:19.620Uh, what are you going to say? Uh, we, we, we had a seance and we resurrected his ghost and then
00:30:25.180that's how we got this information. So no, there's, there's no reason to, there's no reason to think
00:30:30.920that at all. Um, from, uh, this is from KL says, Matt, you and the rest of the daily wire crew are
00:30:37.540pathetic parroting the official line on Epstein. I'm disgusted and done with you and the rest of them.
00:30:43.280If I wanted mainstream media talking points, I know where to get them. So KL is not the,
00:30:49.860I actually got several emails like this from people who are mad at me saying that I was parroting the
00:30:54.700talking for the official narrative or whatever yesterday. I don't even, I don't, I don't even
00:30:58.200know where this is coming from. I said on the show yesterday repeatedly that the so-called conspiracy
00:31:04.240theories in this case are perfectly plausible and justified. Now the idea that he was, that they
00:31:09.560faked his death and that he's hiding out somewhere on an Island, uh, that I don't think is plausible,
00:31:13.900but there are the idea that, that, that someone got to him and made it look like a suicide. Sure.
00:31:18.760It's possible, perfectly possible. Now, as I said, if Occam's razor, um, or the, the mundane principle,
00:31:29.140which I just made up yesterday, but I think it's true that usually the most boring and mundane
00:31:33.380explanation is correct most of the time. So according to that principle, probably he,
00:31:39.300he did kill himself, but you know, I don't know. And my whole point of the show, I spent 15 minutes
00:31:44.780yesterday talking about repeating myself as I tend to do that. There is, there is nothing at all
00:31:49.480crazy or unreasonable about the so-called conspiracy theories. So how that amounts to me parroting the
00:31:55.740official narrative. I have no idea if, unless what you mean by that is, um, that I guess my fault
00:32:06.420is, I can't just say that the conspiracy theories are plausible. I have to pretend that I know that
00:32:15.580the conspiracy theories are true. So I didn't have certainty. Forgive me for that. How dare I?
00:32:23.960This is from Trevor says, hi, Matt. I've been watching for a while. I love your show. I'm 19
00:32:27.820years old. I've been a Christian for about eight months now. Congratulations, Trevor. Um, I'm a part
00:32:33.900of a wonderful church at the college I attend. They are very traditional and conservative in their
00:32:37.140conduct, meaning that they discourage watching movies and listening to music that may be too
00:32:41.000explicit. Plus I have a pretty dark sense of humor. So I'm afraid to joke now about how I've
00:32:46.660normally, I'm afraid to joke how I've normally done. I understand it's inappropriate in a
00:32:51.020church setting, but I'm not real sure about just in my life outside of church. I couldn't help but
00:32:56.000think about this when you mentioned Pulp Fiction in your episode on Monday. When I was an atheist,
00:32:59.700I always loved watching Tarantino films or just watching any movie that told a good story despite
00:33:04.300any violence or profanity. I also really like a lot of standup comedy. I still do. Lastly,
00:33:09.360there's a lot of good music out there that is not Christian music. I guess I'm just wondering
00:33:12.360if it's acceptable to still watch extreme movies, listen to standup comedy, even if it's pretty
00:33:16.560profane, and then listening to good music that may be a little vulgar at times. It's not like this
00:33:20.600makes or breaks my faith. If I have to give it up, then so be it. I understand that the rationale of
00:33:25.200it, but I just feel like a lot of the good parts of life I'll be missing out on. I'd love to get your
00:33:29.760thoughts on this. You're the best show on The Daily Wire. Keep up the great work. There we go. Trevor.
00:33:36.220Yeah. Well, I think, first of all, for you to be doing an inventory of the way you spend your time
00:33:45.600recreationally and the music you listen to, the movies you watch, to do that inventory is a good
00:33:50.280thing. You should be commended for that. We should all be doing that inventory. Yes, there are, I think,
00:33:58.380movies and shows out there that are morally objectionable, and there's nothing really good
00:34:05.300that can come from watching them. And I don't say that. I've seen plenty of that kind of stuff
00:34:12.140myself. In fact, I was just talking about that on the show yesterday, which is what you're referring
00:34:15.080to. But we should still challenge ourselves. I think, and then same with music. I mean, there's a
00:34:23.460lot of music out there, obviously, that is just pure trash and garbage. And all it does is just
00:34:29.340drag you down into the gutter mentally, emotionally, spiritually. And so, again, nothing really good
00:34:34.880can come from it. Even if you kind of like the sound of it, whatever the music is, it's still
00:34:39.120garbage. And so, when it comes to that, and you have to just use your own judgment, a judgment that
00:34:46.000you hone over time, as we all do, as we grow and mature. So, I think you have to, it's good to do
00:34:51.460that. And if you, in your judgment, if you know in your heart of hearts that what you're
00:34:55.580watching is pure trash, pure junk, then yeah, you shouldn't watch it. It doesn't mean you're
00:35:01.540going to go to hell if you do, or that you're automatically a bad Christian, or something
00:35:05.460like that. It's just, it's not helping. It's not edifying. It's not helping you in your own
00:35:10.220walk. And so, there's no, really, there's just no reason to do it, other than you're just
00:35:16.780looking for something to watch, which probably isn't a good enough reason. So, there's that part
00:35:23.400of it. And that's, so that's the judgment call that you have to make. On the other side of it,
00:35:28.980though, I definitely don't think, Trevor, that just because you're a Christian now, you can't watch
00:35:39.100any secular shows or movies. You can't listen to secular music. Like, I don't think that now that
00:35:44.640you're a Christian, all the music you listen to has to be corny Christian music. Not that all
00:35:48.380Christian music is corny, but a lot of it is. And that every show you watch has to be, you know,
00:35:52.120every movie you watch has to be God's Not Dead, or something like that. Heaven is for real. No,
00:35:56.680you don't have to limit yourself to that. There's, in the so-called secular world, there's a lot of,
00:36:05.180despite what you may hear, there's a lot of good music. There's a lot of good art.
00:36:10.040But you have to be discerning. And I think, I guess, especially just focusing on, on, on movies
00:36:19.660for a minute, just as, for example, I think it's perfectly okay for, for, for a movie to deal with
00:36:29.520difficult things, to deal with, you know, violence, to have elements to the story that are sad,
00:36:37.560disturbing, whatever, scary, you know, suspenseful. That's, that's fine. But I think what we have to
00:36:48.380ask ourselves is, what's the point? Is there a point to this? Now, if it's a movie that it appears,
00:36:55.780the only, the only, the only point of the movie is just to drag you down and just to depress you
00:37:01.500for the sake of depressing you. And the only point the movie is trying to make is that there is no point
00:37:06.140in life and everything is terrible. It's just, it's, it's nihilistic filth. Well, then that's
00:37:10.240probably a movie you don't need to watch. But we were talking about The Godfather. So using The
00:37:15.020Godfather as an example, I mean, The Godfather is not what we would call a Christian film.
00:37:21.380And it's probably the kind of movie that some Christians would say, oh, that's total,
00:37:24.980that's terribly inappropriate for a, you shouldn't watch that. Fine. Just watch the latest Kevin
00:37:30.020Sorbo movie instead. No, um, nothing against Kevin Sorbo. I think, I think The Godfather,
00:37:36.380yeah, it's, there's violence in that movie. There's vulgarity, there's evil, a lot of bad stuff.
00:37:41.980It's not for kids. Okay. It's definitely for adults, but it's kind of a Shakespearean tragedy.
00:37:50.220And, uh, what I think what the movie shows you, if you watch at least the first two,
00:37:55.240um, it shows you this, it takes you a, it gives you a first a man, you know, a basically virtuous,
00:38:01.680good, decent man. Who's Michael Corleone, a war hero in the beginning of the first movie.
00:38:07.360And it shows step by step as he is dragged down into evil. Uh, and he sort of collapses in on
00:38:15.380himself in this, in his lust for power and money and prestige. And in the meantime, he loses everything
00:38:23.580else that's important and that's real and that's good in life. And that's why I think the last scene
00:38:28.540in, uh, in Godfather two is so powerful because he's at the point, you know, uh, for the first two
00:38:35.980movies, he always told himself that he was doing everything for the family, for the sake of his
00:38:41.040family. That's what this was all, all really about. Even though he knew in the back of his mind,
00:38:44.500this isn't really for the family, it's for him. But then at that, at the end of the second movie,
00:38:49.100he kills his own brother. So now the, the idea that he's doing it for the family is gone.
00:38:57.260And so he's just kind of standing there staring out the window and it's in this nice, beautiful
00:39:01.840house, but having lost everything is his, his wife hates him. Uh, he's lost his kids. He's killed
00:39:06.640his brother. Everyone, every, all his friends are all dead now and he's got nothing. He's got this
00:39:10.640beautiful house. He's got power. He's got nothing else. And it was all for nothing. And then in the very
00:39:15.440last scene, it flashes back to this scene, you know, from years before where he's sitting around
00:39:19.780the dinner table with his family. And, uh, and you kind of see like, that's, that was real. That
00:39:24.460was good. And he lost that. So anyway, um, so that's a, that's a good positive message actually
00:39:30.860in a movie like the Godfather, which you can find in those kinds of movies. But, um, I think you just
00:39:35.940have to be discerning. So, so just a long way of putting that. All right, let's, uh, let's see.
00:39:42.300We have one more. This is from Carl says, hi, Matt. One of my favorite things you do is poke.
00:39:47.220Oh, this is going to be a long one. Maybe I should say this one. One of my favorite things
00:39:50.640you do is poke holes in Christian apologetic arguments. I actually really appreciate this
00:39:54.160coming from a Christian like yourself. You helped me strengthen my arguments by pointing out where
00:39:58.560the weaknesses are. It sometimes seems to me that Christian apologists these days will throw any
00:40:02.760argument against the wall. I think a much better strategy is to hone a few strong arguments and
00:40:06.840really make them airtight. But in order to do that, we must first find its weak points. I think you're
00:40:11.680good at that. So with all that said, I believe the fine tuning argument is not the best argument for
00:40:16.320God, uh, is if not the best argument for God, at least a very good one. Now, can you put on your
00:40:21.160naysayer hat and tell me where the problems are with that argument? Also, what do you consider to
00:40:25.560be the, the strongest arguments for God? It actually says the strangest arguments, but I assume that was
00:40:31.240a typo and you meant to say strongest, the strangest arguments for God. Um, okay. This is,
00:40:36.340can I do the, can I do, can I answer this quickly? I can't answer anything quickly. Um, the fine,
00:40:41.380I'll try to do it briefly. The fine tuning arguments, the fine tuning argument says that,
00:40:44.780um, that there, there are certain, you know, when you look at physics, there are certain universal
00:40:50.120constants. Uh, the universe has been tuned, has been, uh, kind of programmed a certain way to make
00:40:57.820life possible. And that if you look at any of the, if you look at the tuning, the certain, the universal
00:41:01.780constants, if any of those were off by just the slightest minuscule degree, uh, it would make life
00:41:08.360in the universe impossible. And so the fine tuning argument says like, well, who, who tuned it that
00:41:12.220way? The, the probability that it would just tune itself that way on its own accidentally is so,
00:41:19.140uh, minuscule that you could basically say it's impossible and therefore you need God. And I think
00:41:25.220that's a strong argument. In fact, Christopher Hitchens, who was no friend to Theus said that he thinks
00:41:30.800that's the strongest argument for theism. And that coming from an atheist of his caliber, I think is
00:41:34.680a pretty, is a pretty strong Testament in its favor. So, um, I think it's a good argument.
00:41:40.000My only criticism of it is I think maybe it needs a different label than fine tuning.
00:41:49.000The problem is to me, it seems like the fine tuning argument is just a variation of the argument
00:41:54.660from causation. You know, there's the first cause argument going back to Thomas Aquinas and
00:42:00.560before Thomas Aquinas saying really on a very basic level, like this all had to start from
00:42:05.080somehow, uh, this all began somehow. Um, how did it begin? Yeah. At a certain point,
00:42:13.760you need a first cause, you need an uncaused cause. And that uncaused cause would be God
00:42:18.460by definition. A cause that can cause other things, but does not itself need to be caused
00:42:25.700is, is God. That's what God is. God is other things as well, but he's also that. So it seems
00:42:31.160to me that the fine tuning argument is, is basically a, an extrapolation of that argument
00:42:35.800saying that, you know, this, this tuning of the universe, it couldn't have done it on its own.
00:42:42.380Something or someone had to do it. So I think we need to frame it that way. The problem is when we say
00:42:48.600fine tuning, it makes it sound like what we're arguing is that, you know, the entire universe
00:42:56.560is so remarkably hospitable to life that we know that God must exist when that's not really the
00:43:04.680argument. And the problem is when it sounds, if it sounds like you're making that argument,
00:43:08.040then the atheist can say, well, hold on a second, you know, 99.99999999, whatever percent of the
00:43:15.480universe is lethal to life. The vast majority of the universe, pretty much, you know, essentially
00:43:22.080the entire universe consists of radiation filled vacuum that is lethal to life. Nothing can live in
00:43:28.220it. And if you were to, you know, condense the entire universe to scale down about the size of a
00:43:34.520house, um, the entire house will be filled with a radiation filled vacuum and you'd have one little
00:43:40.120atom, one little proton that would be earth. And obviously if you worked, walked in, if you were to
00:43:45.240walk into a house where the entire thing, except for one little atom is, uh, is, uh, is lethal,
00:43:50.500you would not say, oh, this house was, was built especially for life. No, you would say the opposite.
00:43:55.080You would say this house is, was built to kill me. Um, so that's the problem is that, is that
00:44:00.800the, the universe is a very, very, very, very, very big place. And as far as we know, all of it
00:44:07.580is lethal to life, uh, except for the little speck of dust that we're on. So now that, that fact
00:44:16.260doesn't really debunk the fine tuning argument because that's not what the fine tuning argument
00:44:22.740is. But when you say fine tuning, it kind of sounds like that's what you're saying.
00:44:27.900So maybe that's my point. And maybe we just need, that's my only qualm with the fine tuning
00:44:33.240argument is that I think we need a different name for it to make it clear that we're not claiming
00:44:37.660that the universe is completely hospitable to life everywhere you go. Cause that's obviously not
00:44:42.500the case. Even earth is mostly inhospitable to life. You know, the most of the earth is water.
00:44:48.800You can't live on it. Even on land. Uh, a lot of the earth is Arctic wastelands and deserts where
00:44:54.840either you can't live or it's very difficult to live. So again, uh, we're not really saying that.
00:44:58.880We're just saying that those constants at the beginning of the universe, the way the,
00:45:01.580the way the universe was set up, it was set up in such a way that it was possible for something
00:45:06.200like earth to exist, even if it is one speck of dust in a, in a giant vacuum. All right. Um,
00:45:12.120we will leave it there. Thanks everybody for watching. Godspeed.
00:45:24.840Hey everyone. It's Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan show. You know, there are plenty
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