The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 325 - The Deranged And Evil Overpopulation Myth

00:00:00.000 Okay, so CNN had, what was it, a seven hour, eight hour, seven hour, seven hour climate change

00:00:06.220 town hall yesterday with all the different Democratic nominees. I didn't watch a single

00:00:10.740 minute of it because I don't hate myself personally. The idea of watching seven hours

00:00:15.720 of that just is inhumane. I mean, you could argue that CNN has violated all of our

00:00:23.740 protections against cruel and unusual punishment just by putting that on the air.

00:00:28.420 And speaking of which, and again, I don't know, and this is a question for you if you watched it,

00:00:34.040 because as I said, I didn't, but was, they had a live studio audience, right, for the seven hour

00:00:39.540 thing. Was it the same audience for those seven hours? Was it actually the same collection of

00:00:47.800 people who sat there for seven hours watching as one Democratic nominee after another got up there

00:00:54.100 and talked about climate change? I just, I can't imagine that. And if that's the case,

00:00:57.460 where did they get these people? Were they all on work release from the local prison? Were they all,

00:01:02.420 you know, sadomasochists? Was this some sort of weird, uh, sexual fetish thing for them? I, I just,

00:01:10.440 I can't, I don't get it. I can't possibly understand it. Um, anyway, so I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna go

00:01:16.340 through and break down everything that was said. I think that'd be pointless. Uh, though there were a

00:01:21.460 couple of notable moments, I think, looking at, uh, based on, on, on the replay. Um, here's,

00:01:28.680 here's maybe my, my favorite of all the, of, of the clips I've seen of it. This is probably my,

00:01:33.360 my favorite moment, uh, from, and this is from Corey, Corey Booker. Watch this.

00:01:37.940 So my plan says that we need to be our, our, uh, at a zero carbon electric, electricity by 2030.

00:01:47.820 That's, that's 10 years from the time that I will win the presidency of the United States of America.

00:01:53.840 Poor old Corey, poor, poor Booker. Uh, he says he's going to be president and the audience treats

00:02:00.880 it as a punchline. They actually laughed at him when he said he's going to be president.

00:02:04.460 I swear, I'm really starting to feel sorry for Corey Booker. And this has been the weirdest thing

00:02:09.160 for me throughout this campaign. It's one of the reasons why I kind of, I really resent, uh, this

00:02:14.900 political season because I found myself actually at various points, kind of feeling sorry for Corey

00:02:22.300 Booker, uh, Joe Biden, even Eric Swalwell at different points. I've even felt sorry for Beto

00:02:29.940 sometimes. Now I know they don't deserve my pity, but I just can't help it.

00:02:34.140 I'm, I'm, I'm a, I'm a kind and sensitive guy. What can I say? That is, those are my most

00:02:39.160 prominent personality traits, according to no one. What I really want to discuss, um,

00:02:46.540 uh, what I want to focus on is one moment involving Bernie Sanders, but actually before we get there,

00:02:55.240 um, this here's, here's one, here's one thing with Andrew Yang, uh, that I wanted to talk about

00:03:01.020 briefly. Watch, watch this. So, so what's the answer? Are we all, are we all going to have to

00:03:06.480 drive electric cars? Um, we are all going to love driving our electric cars. Will we have to drive

00:03:12.840 electric cars? Well, there will, there'll still be some legacy gas guzzlers on the road for quite

00:03:18.780 some time because this is not a country where you're going to like take someone's, you know,

00:03:23.120 like clunker away from them, but you are going to offer to buy the clunker back and help them

00:03:27.940 upgrade. So Andrew Yang wants the government to buy everybody's car. And that's on top of the,

00:03:35.180 what is it? A thousand bucks a month we're going to get from the government under Yang's plan. So

00:03:39.480 it appears that Yang believes that the government has literally an infinite supply of money. And he

00:03:45.300 also appears to believe that inflation is a myth. It doesn't exist because you could just give people

00:03:50.080 money, buy their cars. It's not going to have any inflationary impact on the economy. Um, I, I just,

00:03:55.780 I, these are not serious proposals from a serious person. I just, I don't understand why people love

00:04:02.160 this guy so much. Speaking of unserious people, um, but in this case, an unserious person with

00:04:07.640 seriously evil ideas, here is a terrifying exchange involving Bernie Sanders at the town hall last night.

00:04:17.040 Good evening. Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years.

00:04:23.060 The planet cannot sustain this growth. I realize this is a poisonous topic for politicians, but it's

00:04:29.440 crucial to face empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth 0.99

00:04:35.920 seems a reasonable campaign to enact. Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make

00:04:42.120 it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe? Well, Martha, the answer is yes.

00:04:48.520 And the answer has everything to do with the fact that women in the United States of America, 1.00

00:04:54.840 by the way, have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions. 1.00

00:04:59.560 And the Mexico city agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world

00:05:09.080 that are, uh, that allow women to have abortions or even get involved, uh, in birth control to me is

00:05:16.040 totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries around the world, uh, where women do not 1.00

00:05:22.440 necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth

00:05:28.280 control to control the number of kids they have something I very, very strongly support.

00:05:33.800 Let's, let's just be clear about what, what happened there. The question was whether Bernie

00:05:42.280 would support abortion as a means to reduce the population and save the planet. And he said that he

00:05:48.280 would. Okay. Now the word abortion was never used. And so you're going to hear, in fact, I've already

00:05:53.960 heard some people try to rationalize this by saying, well, no, he was talking about birth control,

00:05:58.840 not abortion. Yeah, he did. He did mention birth control also, which he lumps in with abortion

00:06:05.240 because abortion is a form of birth control in Bernie Sanders's mind. But he was also referring

00:06:10.920 explicitly to abortion. That's what the whole bit about women could do what they want with their 1.00

00:06:14.440 bodies. That's abortion. Okay. That's that always refers to where that's not birth control because 0.97

00:06:19.480 there isn't anybody out there who, despite what you hear from the left, there isn't anyone out there

00:06:24.680 who is trying to make birth control illegal or whatever. That's, that's not an argument that

00:06:28.920 anyone's having. So there's no one saying that women shouldn't have the right to use birth control.

00:06:34.520 Uh, there are people saying that women shouldn't have the right to kill their babies. And so when 0.98

00:06:38.440 someone says is women have the right to, they're talking about abortion. And so that's what he wants to

00:06:42.840 do. Um, he, he is, this is Bernie Sanders supporting eugenics explicitly plain and simple.

00:06:53.320 Now this of course is not surprising. It's not new. Eugenics has been around for over a hundred years.

00:06:59.480 As it happens, Bernie Sanders has also been around for over a hundred years, probably not a coincidence.

00:07:03.960 And American leftists have supported eugenics in some form or another using direct or indirect rhetoric

00:07:10.760 for that entire time. In fact, the whole idea of abortion support for abortion rests inherently

00:07:18.200 on a eugenics mentality. It rests on the commodification of human life. That is seeing human life, 0.87

00:07:27.800 judging the worth of human life, according to its usefulness to society, saying that human life has

00:07:34.440 subjective worth determined by other people determined by society as a whole, based on how useful

00:07:40.680 or, or, or, or unuseful that human life is to society. All pro-abortion people see human life this

00:07:48.600 way. They all do. They must in order to be pro-abortion. So it's not a big leap. It's not a leap at all,

00:07:55.320 actually, to go from that to let's kill babies because there are too many people on earth. 1.00

00:08:01.320 So we shouldn't be shocked by this. Um, and by the way, every pro-abortion person agrees with what

00:08:08.280 Bernie Sanders just said, even if they won't admit it out loud, they all agree. They all do.

00:08:13.880 Of course, meanwhile, on this overpopulation idea, it should be stipulated that overpopulation is

00:08:23.800 mythological. Okay. It's not real. The world is not running out of room or running out of resources.

00:08:30.920 That is a myth. It is a fable told, especially by people who want to justify the genocide of the

00:08:37.820 unborn. We could, just to give you an idea, I mean, the earth is, is a very, very big place.

00:08:46.620 Okay. On an astronomical level, it's, it's not, it's, it's not a very big planet. There are a lot

00:08:51.620 of bigger planets out there, but it is still a, it's, as far as we're concerned from our perspective,

00:08:56.380 it is a very, very big planet. You could take, we've got what, 7 billion people on earth. Now

00:09:01.080 you could take them all and fit them all in the state of Texas. Every single person on earth could

00:09:06.460 fit into the state of Texas with their own townhouses and their own nice little postage

00:09:11.360 stamp yards with a picket fence and everything. Um, you could now, uh, there wouldn't be a lot of room

00:09:18.020 and, and, and, you know, a, a factoid like that can be a little deceptive in that, you know,

00:09:24.920 it is also true that much of the surface area of the earth is not, cannot be inhabited. It's not

00:09:31.080 habitable, um, habitable, habitable. There we go. It's not habitable. Uh, you know, Antarctica for

00:09:37.500 instance. But the fact remains that, um, there is a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of habitable area on

00:09:49.120 earth where, where nobody currently lives and it will be that way indefinitely. Okay. So we've got

00:09:58.380 a lot of space and we also have enough food for everybody. There's enough resources. There's

00:10:04.980 enough food. There's enough space. Anyone telling you otherwise is simply lying or they're mistaken.

00:10:09.180 Um, and now we, we, we do have a problem and I hesitate to use this word because of the implications

00:10:18.420 of it, but we do have a problem with the distribution of the food and the space in that

00:10:23.100 there's a lot, there are some people on earth who have a lot of food and waste it and a lot of space

00:10:27.880 and waste it. And then there are some people who have not enough food and they starve and they don't

00:10:31.360 have enough space. Okay. We know that. And when I say distribution, I'm not saying that we need some

00:10:36.440 big government entity to just to redistribute it. That's not what I'm saying, but it is,

00:10:41.060 there is a disproportionate, it is disproportionate in the way this stuff is, is allotted. That's true.

00:10:46.800 But that's not because there are too many people. And the way that I know that is that, you know,

00:10:52.220 back when there were a billion people on earth or a hundred million or 10 million, there were still

00:10:57.940 a lot of people, probably proportionally more than there are today who were starving and were living

00:11:03.700 in filth and were living in crowded environments. And that's back when there were, you know, there

00:11:10.500 was a quarter of the number of people on earth or less than that. So it's not a matter of there

00:11:17.360 being too many people. That's not the problem. The solution then is to talk about how to address

00:11:25.260 the issues of poverty and, and, you know, and all of that. And that's a good thing to talk about.

00:11:32.160 Now, we could talk, we can have that discussion. Bernie's solution is to just kill them, is to say, 0.77

00:11:40.100 well, there, there are people on earth who are poor, poor families. And so let's just start killing

00:11:44.400 them off, killing their children anyway. And that leads me to something else. This is kind of

00:11:51.660 interesting. Have you noticed, I'm sure you have, that the people who advocate reducing the population

00:11:59.420 to save the planet always want to start by killing babies. Have you noticed that?

00:12:07.080 Which that, that does not really seem like the most logical place to start.

00:12:12.200 But poor babies, especially, we should, we should mention. So they say, there's too many people on

00:12:20.320 earth. We got to start getting rid of people. Um, not just let's prevent more people from being

00:12:27.540 conceived, but we have to actually get rid of some people who have already been conceived. And so the

00:12:32.020 people who say that say, well, let's begin with the, with the babies, especially poor babies.

00:12:35.420 They never seem to see themselves as members of the surplus population in need of extermination.

00:12:44.400 What a strange coincidence that is. I mean, if you really, if you really think the world is

00:12:51.360 overpopulated and the solution is to kill people, you could contribute to the solution in a more direct

00:12:57.860 way. Now I'm not advocating, I'm not advocating suicide. I'm not advocating that people who believe

00:13:03.260 an overpopulation, go out and commit mass suicide. I'm not, I don't think they should. I'm just saying

00:13:08.760 that maybe stop trying to throw babies into the fire. If you're not willing to go there yourself.

00:13:16.440 Um, if there is a surplus population, if that's really a thing where there are too many people,

00:13:25.100 well, how do you know you're not part of the surplus? And it would seem like, again, if that's true,

00:13:35.140 the most direct solution would be for you to, uh, at least make sure that you're not part of the

00:13:43.140 problem. And also, you know, the, the word consent is supposed to be very meaningful these days.

00:13:51.960 Well, the babies don't consent to, you might say that there's overpopulation. We don't have room

00:13:58.660 for them. The babies aren't, don't consent to, to, you know, to being killed. You, you can consent to

00:14:04.800 it. So it just, it just seems to me that that would be the most direct solution. If you really think

00:14:12.040 that there's a problem of that sort, think about, think about Bernie Sanders for, for, for a second

00:14:18.780 here specifically. Now it's morally atrocious for anyone to get up there and advocate for killing

00:14:25.380 babies in order to curb population growth. So for anyone to do that is, is disgusting and evil and

00:14:31.920 everything, but it's all the more grotesque and cowardly, uh, and just egregious to have an elderly

00:14:39.300 man pushing 80 years old, getting up there and saying that Bernie Sanders is, he, he, he, he doesn't have

00:14:47.780 that much time left. He's most people, the average life expectancy for a man is like, I think it's 84

00:14:52.740 or it might be less than that. Most people don't make it to 90. Few people do. You're almost definitely

00:14:59.400 not making it to a hundred. The most likely scenario is that Bernie Sanders is dead anyway, within 10 years

00:15:07.660 because of his age. That's just, that's, that's what the statistics tell us.

00:15:12.660 And as he continues to age, he's going to become more and more of a burden on people around. He's

00:15:20.120 going to become less and less able to contribute to society and more and more of a burden to, uh, to,

00:15:26.040 to society and to his family and so on. That's, that's the trajectory that we all follow if we,

00:15:30.780 if we live long enough. So again, if you really have this utilitarian materialistic view of human

00:15:39.820 life, and if you really think that, well, look, you know, babies, uh, we don't need them. There,

00:15:46.340 there, there's, there's too many people. If that's really how you see it. And if that's really how we're

00:15:51.140 judging human life. And so now we have to start getting rid of surplus people. It would almost seem 0.53

00:15:56.700 like it would make more sense to begin with people on the other end of the life spectrum

00:16:02.880 because yeah, with, with babies, uh, it's true that when they're born for a time, they're going to

00:16:10.980 not be able to contribute. They're going to be, uh, for lack of a better term, a burden on, on,

00:16:16.640 on their parents, but that's not going to last forever. In theory, eventually they're going to go on

00:16:24.060 and be on their own and contribute to society. And they've got all the potential in the world.

00:16:28.620 They could go on and cure cancer or, or, or they could do anything. Right. But if you're 80 years

00:16:35.440 old, then whatever potential you had is probably mostly been, uh, realized or not realized. And,

00:16:44.080 uh, you're, you're going more into the phase of being a burden and you're never going to come out of

00:16:48.580 that phase. So it just seems to me, if, if this is what we're doing, if we're getting rid of surplus

00:16:55.340 people, it seems like we should start with adults and not just older adults, even someone like,

00:17:02.320 you know, me, I'm 33 years old. Um, I, I, if there was any chance that I was going to cure cancer,

00:17:09.460 it's, I I've gone in a different direction. I've done this instead. Maybe I could have cured cancer,

00:17:15.420 but I decided to do this instead. So I'm probably never going to cure cancer. Um, you know, I'm

00:17:20.140 probably never going to contribute that much to society. I mean, this is probably the most I'm

00:17:24.280 going to do. And so, you know, Hey, maybe, maybe, maybe I get tossed on the scrap heap too. I don't

00:17:30.000 know. It's just to begin with babies makes no sense to me, even from the, uh, from the,

00:17:39.740 as I said, utilitarian materialistic viewpoint of, of, uh, of, of liberals. Or maybe, you know,

00:17:48.080 maybe this whole line of thinking is just horrifically deranged and wrong. And maybe

00:17:54.240 we shouldn't be looking at human life this way, no matter how old or young, uh, a person happens to

00:18:00.660 be. Okay. Maybe your value and worth is not derived based on how useful you are to other people or what

00:18:07.580 society can do with you or, or how many people there already are on earth or, or whatever else.

00:18:13.580 And maybe even if you are a, uh, you know, a quote unquote burden to other people, if you have to be

00:18:18.740 taken care of, maybe that doesn't detract from your worth at all in any sense. Maybe that's the way to

00:18:25.040 look at it. That's my vote. I vote for that. I think that's how we should look at it. But if we

00:18:31.100 are going to look at it that way, we can't just apply it to ourselves. I can't just say, well, no,

00:18:36.260 I mean, yeah, everybody else, maybe there, they can be surplus population. We don't need them,

00:18:41.660 but me, no, I'm, I'm infinitely valuable and worthy. That doesn't make any sense. If, if,

00:18:46.500 if nobody else is that I'm not either, but if I am, then everybody is. And so I think as a society,

00:18:52.780 we just have to decide, uh, what kind of society we want to be because we're, we were trying to

00:18:58.280 play both. We've been trying to play both sides of the fence for a while now, where on one hand,

00:19:04.180 what do we tell kids? We say, oh, you're, you're special. You're wonderful. It doesn't matter how

00:19:09.220 anyone thinks of you or what they say about you. You're a wonderful, special, uh, infinitely valuable

00:19:15.260 person. On one hand, we say that on the other hand, uh, those very same kids, when they were in

00:19:21.440 the womb, we said they're expendable. We can exterminate them, kill them, slaughter them, dismember 1.00

00:19:27.820 them, throw them in the dumpster. Can't have it both ways. Which way is it going to be?

00:19:33.860 I vote for let's treat all life as valuable and infinitely worthy. Um, but if you want to go the

00:19:40.980 other way and say, fine, let's just live in a utilitarian materialistic eugenics, uh, you know,

00:19:48.400 driven hellscape, if that's what you want to do. Okay. But I think what you're going to find is that

00:19:59.380 it's not just going to be the babies who end up on the scrap heap.

00:20:05.800 All right. Um, this was, this was kind of funny. I just, I wanted to mention this. There was,

00:20:11.860 uh, I think every, every week we have to do one of these crazy feminists on Twitter updates. And so 1.00

00:20:18.100 a crazy feminist on Twitter, uh, sent out a viral tweet. It's getting a lot of reaction. Uh, this 1.00

00:20:24.720 woman's name is Charlotte. And here's what she said. She says, uh, and, and, and I'm, by the way,

00:20:31.220 I'm 98% sure this is not satire or parody. I'm 98% sure she's being sincere, although she has blocked

00:20:37.880 me now. So I can't really investigate too much, but here's what she said. Um, men, before you tell a

00:20:44.480 joke slash give advice, plat slash pay a compliment, I need you to ask yourself three questions.

00:20:52.020 One, was I invited to speak to will what I'm about to say be welcome three. Am I speaking to enrich this

00:21:00.360 person or am I speaking just to make myself seen? Was I invite here? Here, this is what she men. This

00:21:08.380 is what Charlotte woman named Charlotte, a feminist on Twitter. This is what she needs us to do. She needs 0.61

00:21:14.000 it. Okay. We have been given our instructions. And so anytime you want to speak to anyone,

00:21:20.660 you have to first, first, uh, uh, wait for an invitation. I don't know. Can we ask for the

00:21:27.140 invitation? Are we allowed to say, may I speak? But then if to say that we're all, we are already

00:21:32.580 speaking without an invitation. So I guess we have to just stand there silently until a woman turns to

00:21:38.520 us and says, you are now invited to speak. You have 25 seconds. Go. Um, of course it's useless to say

00:21:47.760 that Charlotte is not following her own advice here because she was not invited to tweet this.

00:21:53.060 Um, it was not welcome and it certainly didn't enrich anyone or anything except for her own ego,

00:21:58.600 but that doesn't matter because she's a woman. So it doesn't apply to her. This just again shows,

00:22:03.220 and we should remember that as much as we might, we might like to believe otherwise, Charlotte is not

00:22:10.000 alone in this attitude. There are a lot of college aged feminist women who this is how they see the 1.00

00:22:16.940 world. And this is how they see men. This is how they're told to see men. But, um, I think what you

00:22:26.200 find here, it, it, it never ends, it never ceases to amaze me how feminists just don't, it's not even 1.00

00:22:36.540 that they don't understand men, which of course they don't, but they don't even, they don't understand

00:22:42.100 human communication. They don't, they don't understand humans. They're like robots or something.

00:22:49.300 This is not how human communication works. It reminds me of those, um, of the feminist, 1.00

00:22:53.980 uh, affirmative consent laws that you find on a lot of college campuses these days

00:22:59.480 to alleviate the supposed rape epidemic on college campuses where, you know, the affirmative 0.96

00:23:05.240 consent means that if a young man is in a romantic embrace with a young woman, he must be given 0.60

00:23:12.900 affirmative consent throughout the sexual act, which means as it progresses, he, he must ask

00:23:21.000 the woman, can we continue? And she has to say, yes, we can. And there has to be affirmative

00:23:26.780 throughout the entire thing. There has to be this continued affirmative verbal consent,

00:23:30.760 which obviously is, is crazy. And that's just not how human beings work. That's, that's not how it

00:23:37.020 works. Humans aren't like that. That's how computers operate. And it seems like feminists don't understand 1.00

00:23:44.000 the difference between human beings and computers, which is a fascinating fact. All right. Here's something

00:23:50.460 that that may not be of any great interest to most of you, but I'm going to babble about it. Anyway,

00:23:54.960 Max Kellerman, um, a talking head on ESPN went off on a rant yesterday, uh, on, on his show on ESPN

00:24:03.740 about how track and field isn't really a sport and it's inferior to things like basketball and football.

00:24:10.320 I'm not sure how this came up or why they were talking about it, but they were, I don't have the

00:24:13.940 clip to play you, but that's the summary track. Isn't a real sport. It's not as pure as football and

00:24:19.600 basketball. And, and look, I'm a football fan and a basketball fan, at least during the playoffs.

00:24:24.260 But, but this is absolutely ridiculous. And maybe I am biased as someone who I ran track in high

00:24:29.400 school. I also enjoy running as a hobby. At least I did before my Achilles tear. Um, and ever since

00:24:36.600 then, uh, then I've become sort of a fat, lazy slug, unfortunately. But, uh, still I can say that track

00:24:41.840 track and field is not only a sport, but I think it's actually the purest and rawest sport in,

00:24:51.940 in existence. There's no luck. There's no chance. There's nothing to hide behind.

00:24:58.680 You think about it, even a great quarterback can get bailed out by a wide receiver, making a fantastic

00:25:04.580 catch. Um, and a quarterback, the wins, if we talk about a, the win loss record of a quarterback or

00:25:11.400 the win loss record of a basketball player or a pitcher, their win loss record is going to be

00:25:16.080 determined not just by them, but by their, their teammates. And it's going to have at least as much

00:25:22.780 to do with their team as it does with them personally, or if not probably more, uh, with their

00:25:27.960 team than them personally, none of that applies to track. I mean, unless we're talking about relay

00:25:32.480 races, but if we're talking about just a straight 100 meter dash or my event in high school was a

00:25:37.760 1600 meter mile, um, it's just you, your speed, your strength, your stamina, your mental and physical

00:25:45.740 endurance. And that's it. That's all you've got. Can you get to the finish line before the next guy,

00:25:50.860 before everybody else on the track? If you do, you win. If you don't, you lose. And that's it.

00:25:55.520 There aren't any lucky bounces. There aren't any lucky catches. There aren't any lucky errors made by

00:25:59.780 someone in the outfield so you can get on second base. Um, uh, it's just, do you have the speed and

00:26:04.660 strength to beat everybody else? That's it. If you do, you win. If you don't, you lose. And that's

00:26:10.820 a sport that's about as sporty as sports get. So here's how it breaks down because this whole

00:26:15.440 conversation about what's a sport, what isn't a sport gets people very heated and emotional,

00:26:20.640 uh, myself as well. So let me try to explain this. You have three categories that are kind of on a

00:26:27.860 continuum as I see it. You have sports, games, and then physical arts. Let's say a sport can be

00:26:37.800 defined as a physical competition requiring physical effort and skill between contenders

00:26:44.200 that can be won according to an objective set of rules. Okay. That's a sport. A game is a competition

00:26:51.420 relying more on strategy or chance than physical ability, which can be won according to a objective

00:26:57.520 set of rules. And then a physical art is a performative display requiring strength and

00:27:01.980 agility and athleticism and grace, which is judged subjectively according to largely aesthetic

00:27:07.200 measures. That's, that's how, that's how all those things are defined. I sort of made all those

00:27:11.380 definitions up, but I think, I think they're, they're good. So according to that, football is

00:27:17.640 both a game and a sport and a little bit of an art. Um, but it's none of those things purely or

00:27:24.100 completely. It's sort of a, to a certain degree, all of them, but not completely any of them same

00:27:30.720 for basketball, hockey, baseball. Um, track on the other hand is to no extent a game or an art.

00:27:38.860 It is just a sport. That's all it is. A hundred percent sport, pure sport, all physical, all strength,

00:27:45.020 all objective. There's no judging. You might have it. You have a judge on the track to tell you if you,

00:27:49.720 who crossed the finish line first, or did you step out of, but, uh, uh, but that's not,

00:27:54.220 that's not subjective. You either did or you didn't. Something like gymnastics is not a sport

00:28:00.120 at all. It is pure art because it is all subjective. In most gymnastic events, there is no way to win

00:28:05.900 except by a judge subjectively assessing how you looked while you were doing it. That's an art.

00:28:12.360 That's not a sport. Um, and then something like poker is just, or, or, uh, you know, that's just pure

00:28:18.180 game. That's not bowling. Okay. That's just a game. It's not a sport. It's not an art. So that's

00:28:22.220 how it all breaks down. Um, and then soccer is none of those things. Soccer is just an activity

00:28:29.020 for women and children to play, uh, when they're bored, I guess. That's how, so I think we can just

00:28:34.160 put that all to rest. There's a continuum and that's how all that stuff. And by the way, it's not,

00:28:38.800 when I say gymnastics isn't a sport, that's not an insult. It's to be an art is a wonderful thing.

00:28:44.760 It's just, it's not the same kind of thing. All right. Let's, um, we'll go to, to emails,

00:28:52.860 uh, Matt wall show at gmail.com. I actually also wanted to mention, I finally watched,

00:28:56.440 uh, the live action Aladdin movie with my kids yesterday at their insistence. I didn't want to

00:29:03.700 see it because as I've shared before, I think the whole remake, the live action remakes of cartoons

00:29:10.740 is a stupid cash grab and I don't want to support it, but they convinced me to watch it with them.

00:29:16.300 And honestly, I'll never forgive them for doing that to me because it was much worse than even I

00:29:22.540 expected. Uh, it was really, really bad. I mean, amazingly bad. It was so bad that I could almost

00:29:32.240 recommend it because it was so bad just so you could gawk at the, at the poor quality of it. It's,

00:29:39.060 I mean, it was amazing. It was like a high school stage production of Aladdin, but with worse acting.

00:29:45.760 And here's what I'm trying to figure out. This, this is a thing that's been, that's been perplexing

00:29:49.340 me ever since I watched it with my kids. Um, okay. So you're, if you're Disney, you have

00:29:57.020 billions of dollars at your disposal. You have hundreds of millions that you can spend on this

00:30:03.440 movie. How do you end up with bad actors? That's what got me the whole time I'm watching. The acting

00:30:10.420 is so bad. How could you end up with bad actors? I mean, I knew that it would lack the charm and

00:30:16.240 originality of the, of the, of the first one. I knew that and it did severely so, but I wasn't

00:30:22.700 expecting the acting to be so bad. How does that happen? You can pay whoever you want. You can get

00:30:30.400 whoever you want in Hollywood probably to be in this thing and you end up with bad actors.

00:30:36.420 But then I realized, of course, I know what happened that these days, especially with,

00:30:42.320 with, with companies like Disney, the first priority is to make sure that your actors

00:30:46.920 will pass the identity politics test. Okay. They have to be sufficiently ethnically pure according

00:30:54.040 to whatever character they're playing. And that's, and that really is the only priority now.

00:30:58.100 So Disney was made, they were making a, a live action Aladdin remake, something that's set in

00:31:05.320 the middle East. And so it's, it's just a whole, a landmine for them. Um, if you'll pardon that, 0.99

00:31:12.200 that, uh, that metaphor. Uh, but it's a, it's a landmine because they know that, okay, now they,

00:31:17.380 they have, these are Arabic characters. And so they've really got to make sure

00:31:21.460 that all of the actors they find are sufficiently Arabic. And I think that, um, that's,

00:31:28.540 they decided that's the only thing that matters. It doesn't actually matter if they can really act.

00:31:32.800 All that matters is do they pass the test politically? And they did. They passed that

00:31:39.140 test. Unfortunately they couldn't act. And so that's what's happening. I mean, it's gotten so

00:31:43.180 ridiculous now that the latest outrage that I just saw this morning is, um, there's a movie coming out

00:31:50.300 starring Dakota Fanning playing a white, at least this is how it's being phrased. She's playing a 0.99

00:31:57.940 white Ethiopian Muslim. And this is a movie about a real person who was a, a British, a white British

00:32:09.100 woman who moved to Ethiopia, um, became a naturalized citizen and was also a Muslim. I don't know if she

00:32:16.860 converted or she was originally. People are outraged by that. I don't even understand it now. Somehow

00:32:25.460 that's, that's offensive for Dakota Fanning to she, Dakota Fanning is a white woman playing an actual 0.99

00:32:33.580 white woman. What are we now at the point where you're just not allowed to have white actors in 1.00

00:32:41.380 a movie at all, even if they're playing white characters? I think that's, that's where this 0.94

00:32:47.240 is headed. That you just, you're, you can't have it's, if it's a white, you white actors aren't 0.77

00:32:52.980 allowed to play anybody anymore. It doesn't matter who they are. It doesn't matter who they're playing.

00:32:55.940 They can't play anybody. I think that's where we're headed. And it's obviously absurd. All right.

00:33:01.180 Uh, Matt Walsh show at gmail.com, Matt Walsh show at gmail.com is email address. This is from Mike

00:33:05.340 says, dear Matt Walsh, thank you for giving us your input regarding the Harry Potter controversy in

00:33:09.360 your latest podcast. Um, on a similar note, I am a devout Christian and wanted to know your opinion

00:33:15.380 about Renaissance festivals. Are these events just an excuse for people to gather and create fantasies

00:33:20.360 of witchcraft, et cetera. So overall, do you approve of these events or not? Thank you for your

00:33:26.060 wisdom into this pressing matter. Is this a thing? Are there people who, are there Christians who say

00:33:30.480 that Christians shouldn't go to Renaissance festivals because there's witchcraft? I went 0.99

00:33:35.040 to one Renaissance festival a long time ago. The only thing I remember is the big delicious, uh,

00:33:40.260 turkey leg. And, and that's all that I remember. And honest, I don't remember any witchcraft, but

00:33:45.220 honestly, if there was a little bit of witchcraft, I think it was probably worth it for the turkey

00:33:49.580 leg, which was really good. This is from, um,

00:33:53.280 J Mac says afternoon, mighty Matt master driver and owner of the super fly button ups. Uh,

00:34:02.900 I thank you for noticing. I enjoyed your take on faith and reason the other day. You did a good

00:34:08.000 job using reason to explain reasons purpose towards faith. Although this did have the effect

00:34:12.440 of leaving faith by the wayside. To me, it came across as your reason trying to justify its own

00:34:17.740 importance as reason instead of an augment to faith. I wanted to attempt to explain the

00:34:22.080 dichotomy of faith and reason as best I could, despite faith being an ineffable entity that

00:34:26.680 recoils all words that try and pin it down. Reason is definitely a handy tool used to familiarize

00:34:31.720 ourselves to the world we live in. A cartographer can reason a triangle on a map to become the symbol

00:34:37.720 of a mountain. However, a triangle does not encompass all that is the mountain. Reason is our

00:34:42.560 limited and flawed perspective struggling best they can to iron out the mysteries of the world. We name

00:34:47.920 the organs on the body, though their names would not dictate or explain the organs function.

00:34:52.080 There is much we don't know about God. God's organs, perceptions, plans. We do, however,

00:34:57.220 have the ability to feel his divinity and hear his voice. Faith is that feeling of oneness with God.

00:35:02.680 It doesn't require you to know him, but it opens the channel of knowing. To use reason is to use

00:35:07.400 the language of humans. Faith would be the language of God. The feeling in your bones that there is

00:35:12.920 forgiveness and evil one day be exhumed from the corpse of man's relation to sin. You don't need

00:35:17.840 language or understanding to tap into serendipity. If anything, language becomes a barrier to divinity

00:35:22.280 as we try and express God through language instead of an all-accompassing form. Reason is the prediction

00:35:27.260 of events based on seen experience and knowledge. Faith is the knowing that there will always be a

00:35:32.200 silver lining. Sorry if this doesn't make much sense. I tried my best with limited tools. I have

00:35:37.200 been provided. Well, J-Mac, I think that was beautifully put, actually. I would maybe counter,

00:35:44.180 not even counter, because I don't disagree fundamentally with most of what you said there,

00:35:49.920 but I would add that to me, reason is, in the simplest definition for reason, I think,

00:35:58.120 is that it is our ability to contemplate and understand. I think that's what reason is.

00:36:07.640 And I think that's why we are reasonable creatures, and squirrels and worms and fish are not.

00:36:15.440 They can think. They can probably feel. But they don't contemplate abstract concepts. They don't come

00:36:23.780 to an understanding. They don't sit down and say to themselves, gee, let me try to really understand

00:36:28.940 this thing over here. So in this sense, if this is what reason is, and I think that's the case,

00:36:37.960 then reason is inextricably tied to faith, so much so that I don't think you can really put them

00:36:43.600 in different categories. So when you say that I was advocating reason and putting faith to the

00:36:49.660 wayside, I don't think that's possible. I think that they're sort of dimensions of the same thing.

00:36:55.500 Because to say something like, I think God exists, or I think God created the universe.

00:37:03.900 Now, I guess you would say that's a statement of faith. And it is. But it's also a statement of reason,

00:37:11.040 just the same. Because in order to make that statement, you first have to know

00:37:16.340 what it means for a thing to be created. You have to know what the universe is,

00:37:23.440 and that one exists. And you have to have some basic idea of what God is. You say God,

00:37:30.440 you have to—now, none of us can know God completely, but when we say we believe in God,

00:37:34.400 we have to have some idea of what we believe in. That word has to mean something to us.

00:37:39.020 And so I think all of that is reason, right? Knowing what the universe is, knowing what it is

00:37:45.980 to create, having some idea of God, understanding that everything that exists must originate somewhere.

00:37:53.700 I mean, all of these things are related to reason, in addition to faith. And so I, as I said,

00:38:01.940 I just, I don't think you can separate them. This is from Corbin, says,

00:38:07.340 Hey, Matt, I'm a high school student, and I have a very good, smart friend. However,

00:38:10.320 she doesn't believe in the moon landing. I've tried to convince her, but beliefs are very firm.

00:38:14.620 She believes that since no one can prove it without citing NASA, it is therefore a cover-up.

00:38:18.980 I've talked to teachers about it, and they have agreed with her.

00:38:22.640 They've agreed with her? Is there a point to continuing this argument? And if so, how should I

00:38:29.620 argue this? Well, Corbin, first of all, the fact that your teachers agreed with her is horrifying.

00:38:37.340 Though, also not surprising. But there's an old saying that says, you can't reason somebody out

00:38:45.180 of a position that they weren't reasoned into to begin with. Meaning, your friend did not adopt

00:38:50.400 this belief because she seriously studied the issue objectively, considered the evidence,

00:38:55.840 and arrived at this conclusion. She might claim that's what she did, but I guarantee you that's not

00:39:00.940 what she did. Because nobody who does that could possibly come to the conclusion that the moon

00:39:05.980 landing was a hoax. You can only come to that conclusion if the, quote, research you've done

00:39:12.540 has consisted of Googling specifically these conspiracy sites and looking only at the information

00:39:20.500 they provide you and not looking at any other sources. That's the only way you can maintain a belief

00:39:25.340 that is so delusional and divorced from reality. And so that we know that that's all she's done.

00:39:30.820 Which means, again, speaking of reason, she was not reasoned into that belief. It is an unreasonable

00:39:37.400 belief that she adopted because she wanted to believe it. Now, why does she want to believe

00:39:44.040 that the moon landing never happened? You know, I don't know. That's a whole separate conversation.

00:39:47.880 And we've talked about that before. Why do people want to believe these crazy conspiracy theories?

00:39:51.680 I think there are a whole host of reasons. And probably the most simple is just that

00:39:57.180 they find it exciting. Where it's kind of cinematic. They sort of want to live in a world

00:40:04.080 where there are these shadowy, conspiratorial forces that are doing stuff like that. It makes

00:40:10.100 them feel like they're in a James Bond movie or something. Which, of course, even if it's true

00:40:16.820 that the world would be more exciting that way. That doesn't mean, that's not evidence that it

00:40:23.360 actually happened. But also, I think it's way more exciting, way more exciting, to contemplate

00:40:31.740 the fact that we actually did land on the moon. But anyway, that's the psychology of it.

00:40:40.260 And that's a different question. But this is an irrational belief. That's the point. And

00:40:49.000 you know, we all have some irrational beliefs. It's part of being a human being, unfortunately.

00:40:54.180 This is one of hers. And all you can do, I think, is just give her the facts,

00:40:59.500 which maybe you've already done. Make sure she's been exposed to those facts.

00:41:04.280 So that she at least has them in her orbit, pardon the pun, and then wait for her to grow 1.00

00:41:12.360 out of this on her own. And she probably will eventually. But that's the thing. When somebody

00:41:18.100 has an irrational, unreasonable belief, they have to get to a point where they're willing to

00:41:28.160 sort of step out of that and actually look objectively at the situation. And there's

00:41:36.100 nothing you can do to force them to do that. And as long as they're unwilling to step out of those

00:41:43.120 beliefs for a moment, at least, and look objectively at the evidence, as long as they're unwilling to do

00:41:47.380 that, there's nothing you can say in the moment that's going to convince them. But you can plant the

00:41:52.380 seed, put the information there. And eventually, when she grows up a little bit, maybe she'll venture

00:41:57.980 her out into the world of reality and say to herself, oh, you know what? Corbyn was actually

00:42:02.520 right about that. Although, unfortunately, she'll probably never come back to you and say,

00:42:06.820 you know what? You were right. Because that's also, unfortunately, part of human nature.

00:42:12.480 But thanks for the email. Thanks for the question. Thanks, everybody, for watching. Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - September 05, 2019

Ep. 325 - The Deranged And Evil Overpopulation Myth

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