The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 326 - Drew Brees Promotes The Bible, Gets Attacked As Anti-Gay

00:00:00.000 So the NFL season kicked off last night with an absolute nail-biter of a game.

00:00:05.260 Extremely exciting, start to finish, final score 10-3.

00:00:09.420 It was as exciting as watching a soccer game.

00:00:14.280 So that's about the level it was at.

00:00:16.680 Packers won the game.

00:00:17.480 But the real NFL-related drama yesterday was happening off the field.

00:00:23.860 And it had to do with Saints quarterback Drew Brees.

00:00:28.000 Now, Drew Brees, if you don't follow the NFL, Drew Brees is not only one of the best quarterbacks in the league,

00:00:34.760 one of the best quarterbacks in the history of the league, really,

00:00:36.920 but he's also just one of the best all-around dudes in the league.

00:00:40.100 He's a good, decent guy.

00:00:42.680 And despite what maybe some people would say or the impression some people have of the league,

00:00:48.120 there are a lot of good, decent men in professional football.

00:00:52.000 There are also a lot of unhinged narcissists and violent abusers in the league, too, unfortunately.

00:01:00.000 If you follow the league, then you know about Antonio Brown over in—now he's in Oakland.

00:01:03.860 He was in Pittsburgh before, and he's definitely in the unhinged narcissist camp.

00:01:10.440 The guy cares about nothing but himself.

00:01:12.240 He causes problems everywhere he goes.

00:01:14.480 Everything's about him.

00:01:16.160 Brees is not like that.

00:01:17.360 He's a good team player.

00:01:19.160 He's a good guy in general.

00:01:21.280 And, you know, I think that people who are star athletes and have been star athletes—

00:01:30.700 if you—you know, someone like Drew Brees is a star quarterback.

00:01:33.480 He's been in the league for, I don't know, 15 years or something.

00:01:36.900 But that means he's really been a star quarterback probably since he was like five years old.

00:01:41.420 He's pretty much his entire life, he's been a star athlete everywhere he goes.

00:01:48.260 To be—in that position, to be able to retain some humility and still just be sort of normal,

00:01:57.420 that is a huge feat, really.

00:01:59.340 That is a huge—that is a huge feat of virtue just to be able to pull that off.

00:02:05.680 I think lesser people, if you're given that kind of attention and you're treated that way all the time throughout your entire life,

00:02:13.620 it's very difficult for it not to go to your head.

00:02:15.840 So when I see athletes like this who are just decent guys, to me, I'm very impressed with that.

00:02:23.020 But not everybody is impressed.

00:02:25.820 And the fact that he's a decent guy, that's not going to save him from the woke mob,

00:02:29.400 which have now descended on Breeze because—well, let me read some of the headlines to you

00:02:35.520 to give you the woke mob's version of what Breeze has done wrong.

00:02:41.340 Okay, let me read some headlines.

00:02:42.840 First, this is a headline from a website called Black Sports Online,

00:02:48.060 and I think this is the garbage site that really kicked off the controversy.

00:02:51.940 And here's how they phrase things.

00:02:53.280 It was, Drew Brees created a PSA video for an anti-gay religious cult that believes in conversion therapy

00:03:02.060 and fights against any anti-discrimination laws, wants kids to bring Bible to school to convert other kids.

00:03:09.060 Okay, so that's how Black Sports Online phrase it.

00:03:11.980 He made a PSA video for an anti-gay religious cult.

00:03:18.360 Deadspin put it this way, Drew Brees appears in video for gay conversion therapy sickos. 0.67

00:03:23.280 Doesn't understand what the big deal is.

00:03:25.660 And then Big Easy Magazine put it this way.

00:03:27.840 They said, Drew Brees records video for anti-LGBT religious organization.

00:03:33.200 Okay, so this sounds pretty bad, right?

00:03:35.040 If you don't know any better, which you should at this point,

00:03:37.740 but if you don't know any better, you hear those headlines and you think, oh, that's bad.

00:03:42.200 I mean, he's aligned himself with a cult, and he's recording anti-gay PSAs.

00:03:49.620 Why would he do this?

00:03:50.660 This is Drew Brees we're talking about.

00:03:52.000 Why would you even?

00:03:52.680 This is crazy.

00:03:55.800 Well, let's play the controversial video.

00:04:00.540 And I want you to get ready for this because it's pretty disturbing.

00:04:03.460 Remember, this is an anti-gay religious cult. 0.98

00:04:06.060 He's doing a PSA.

00:04:07.060 Who knows what he's about to say?

00:04:08.800 This is pretty disturbing stuff.

00:04:10.480 So I have to warn you, if there's any kids listening right now,

00:04:13.260 maybe you should cover their ears because this is pretty dark stuff.

00:04:17.700 Listen to this.

00:04:18.460 Hey, guys.

00:04:19.840 Drew Brees here.

00:04:20.860 One of my favorite verses in the Bible is 2 Corinthians 5-7.

00:04:24.780 For we live by faith, not by sight.

00:04:27.260 So I want to encourage you to live out your faith on Bring Your Bible to School Day

00:04:31.760 and share God's love with friends.

00:04:34.100 You're not alone.

00:04:34.680 Yeah.

00:04:36.800 So that's it.

00:04:38.940 That's the whole thing.

00:04:40.900 That's the video that created the backlash.

00:04:44.380 The anti-gay religious cult PSA.

00:04:47.300 That's just what you saw right there.

00:04:48.700 That's it.

00:04:49.740 He recorded that for the group Focus on the Family as a way to promote Bring Your Bible to School Day,

00:04:57.320 which is a thing.

00:04:58.140 I didn't know that was a thing.

00:04:59.280 I'm glad it's a thing.

00:05:00.360 And so on that day, you bring your Bible to school.

00:05:03.440 And so he did a video saying, Bring Your Bible to School.

00:05:06.640 And that really is it.

00:05:07.800 There isn't like an additional part of the video that I'm not showing where he advocates the death penalty for homosexuals or something.

00:05:14.380 No.

00:05:15.400 Even though that's what you would expect based on the headlines, that's not what happens.

00:05:19.020 It's really the entire video.

00:05:20.100 It's just him saying, Hey, kids, Bibles are cool.

00:05:23.280 Thumbs up.

00:05:24.020 And I'm Drew Brees.

00:05:26.440 Go Saints.

00:05:27.120 I mean, that's the entire thing.

00:05:29.660 Well, but I gave you just a few headlines, some of the more unhinged headlines,

00:05:36.400 but there were a ton of others all accusing him of being anti-gay and so on and so forth.

00:05:42.500 And then there was the backlash online and it was trending.

00:05:46.320 And so you know the whole rigmarole.

00:05:47.660 In response to the ridiculous, fake, dishonest outrage, Brees made another video last night addressing it.

00:05:56.840 And when I saw the little thumbnail of his video, I was afraid that he was about to apologize.

00:06:06.620 And I was relieved to see that he does not apologize.

00:06:09.660 Here's what he does say.

00:06:11.180 Hello, everyone.

00:06:12.520 There's been a lot of negativity spread about me in the LGBTQ community recently based upon an article that someone wrote with a very negative headline that I think led people to believe that somehow I was aligned with an organization that was anti-LGBTQ and so on and so forth.

00:06:34.220 I'd like to set the record straight.

00:06:35.680 I live by two very simple Christian fundamentals, and that is love the Lord with all your heart, mind, and soul and love your neighbor as yourself.

00:06:44.920 No matter your race, your color, your religious preference, your sexual orientation, your political beliefs, it doesn't matter.

00:06:53.600 So the fact that these rumors have been spread about me are completely untrue.

00:06:58.120 What I did was I filmed a video recently that was encouraging kids to bring their Bibles to school for National Bring Your Bible to School Day, to bring your Bibles to school, to be able to live out your faith with confidence.

00:07:12.380 And I even gave one of my favorite Bible verses.

00:07:14.680 It was as simple as that.

00:07:15.980 So I'm not sure why the negativity spread or why people tried to rope me into certain negativity.

00:07:21.780 I do not support any groups that discriminate or that have their own agendas that are trying to promote inequality.

00:07:32.700 OK, so hopefully that has set the record straight and we can all move on because that's not what I stand for.

00:07:39.580 Have a great day.

00:07:40.740 OK, good for him for not apologizing.

00:07:42.780 I'm glad he didn't.

00:07:43.880 Drew Brees is it's kind of like we talked about Wal-Mart earlier in the week for Wal-Mart caved to the left wing mob and there was no reason for them to cave because it's Wal-Mart we're talking about.

00:07:57.580 The left can't touch them.

00:07:58.940 They're Wal-Mart.

00:08:00.380 So they they could take a position of I don't care what you people think.

00:08:03.960 We're going to do what we want to do.

00:08:05.080 I mean, yeah, go ahead.

00:08:05.980 Go ahead and boycott.

00:08:06.740 Oh, I'm so scared.

00:08:09.360 Drew Brees could could take a similar approach.

00:08:13.880 And if I were Drew Brees, that's probably what I would would have done.

00:08:16.920 I probably would have made a video saying, look, I'm Drew Brees.

00:08:19.580 Oh, you're mad at me.

00:08:20.740 OK, good.

00:08:22.120 Well, that's good.

00:08:23.120 Good for you.

00:08:25.060 I'm Drew Brees.

00:08:26.340 This is me.

00:08:27.140 We're talking about folks.

00:08:29.020 I mean, there's no way that Drew Brees is getting fired by the Saints, especially for that video.

00:08:34.660 But even if he did record an actual anti-gay, but he probably still wouldn't get fired because he's Drew Brees.

00:08:40.160 They'd have a riot on their hands in New Orleans if they did.

00:08:43.000 But so he he he he just doesn't have to worry about them yet.

00:08:47.880 He has probably too much class, I guess.

00:08:49.760 That's why he's Drew Brees.

00:08:50.780 And I'm not.

00:08:51.480 I mean, he has too much class to get up there and say so.

00:08:54.080 He he tries to explain himself a little bit yet.

00:08:56.360 Even Brees is response.

00:08:59.260 To the original fake outrage outrage is mischaracterized by the media.

00:09:04.840 ESPN.

00:09:05.820 This is their headline talking about his response.

00:09:11.240 And their headline is Brees irate over backlash from promotional video.

00:09:15.900 Irate.

00:09:18.620 Did that seem irate to you?

00:09:21.220 OK, that's not irate.

00:09:22.920 I can show you what irate is.

00:09:24.640 I'm irate all the time about everything.

00:09:26.400 That's that.

00:09:26.980 So you want to see irate then fine.

00:09:29.280 But that Drew Brees probably has never been irate about anything.

00:09:32.760 That was not irate.

00:09:33.820 He wasn't screaming.

00:09:35.020 He wasn't frothing at the mouth.

00:09:36.880 He was just explaining, I think, in very reasonable, calm terms what actually happened.

00:09:45.160 By the way, this claim that focus on the family supports gay conversion therapy, even if it were true, it's irrelevant.

00:09:55.760 Because Brees didn't mention anything about it.

00:09:58.720 So even if focus on the family did support gay conversion therapy, whatever that's supposed to be,

00:10:03.560 that's not what Drew Brees was talking about.

00:10:06.940 He was just saying, bring your Bibles to school.

00:10:09.900 And I doubt whatever focus on the family's position is on gay conversion therapy,

00:10:14.000 I really doubt that Drew Brees knows or cares or has.

00:10:17.360 He just would have no idea.

00:10:19.800 I don't think gay conversion therapy is the kind of issue that someone like Drew Brees is really tuned into and worried about.

00:10:26.040 Right.

00:10:28.400 And I don't claim to be an expert on focus on the family's position on the subject either.

00:10:32.520 But from what I understand, they have basically taken the stance that if a Christian with a homosexual orientation

00:10:41.720 wants to seek counseling from his church or from his Christian counselor related to his sexual orientation,

00:10:50.040 then he should be able to do that.

00:10:51.220 From what I understand, that's focus on the family's position.

00:10:53.480 Um, I don't think focus on the family has ever said that gays should be forced into gay conversion camps.

00:11:02.280 Like they should all be rounded up and brought to a camp where they're brainwashed.

00:11:05.880 I don't think they've ever taken that position.

00:11:08.660 I think their position is, look, if somebody wants counseling, they should be able to get it.

00:11:13.500 Which, which to me seems perfectly reasonable if that is their position.

00:11:18.240 But anyway, it's irrelevant.

00:11:20.800 Because like I said, Brees didn't go anywhere near the subject.

00:11:24.080 He just encouraged kids to bring their Bibles to school.

00:11:26.820 That's all.

00:11:27.640 And you can disagree with that if you want.

00:11:30.980 Okay.

00:11:31.440 I mean, if you want to disagree with that, that's fine.

00:11:34.080 But whatever happened to just disagreeing?

00:11:37.780 Why can't you just say, no, Drew Brees, I disagree.

00:11:43.060 I don't think kids should bring their Bibles to school. 1.00

00:11:45.660 Here's why.

00:11:47.300 And then explain.

00:11:49.340 Personally, I can't imagine what your problem with it would be.

00:11:51.960 But whatever it is, just explain it.

00:11:54.360 No big deal.

00:11:56.840 Why does it have to be automatically, oh my gosh, Drew Brees wants to kill all gays?

00:12:01.980 Why do you have to go there?

00:12:05.080 Why just, if we know what your real problem is, you don't like Christians, you don't like the Bible, you don't think Bibles belong in school.

00:12:12.360 That's really what you're upset about.

00:12:13.720 So just say that.

00:12:15.380 Just say it.

00:12:18.080 Why does it automatically have to go?

00:12:20.000 Well, I know why.

00:12:20.940 You know, it's a rhetorical question.

00:12:22.140 And the answer is we live in very, very stupid times.

00:12:25.360 Very stupid times.

00:12:26.980 And dishonest times, too.

00:12:28.780 Where people, there are a lot of people who just seem to be incapable of honestly and directly engaging with an argument or a position.

00:12:45.060 I think there are a lot of people in our country who really are just are intellectually incapable of it at this point.

00:12:53.340 And I have to say this as well.

00:12:57.900 I know that if you're in the LGBT camp, you probably aren't going to take advice from me. 1.00

00:13:03.540 Maybe I don't blame you for that.

00:13:05.500 But I'm going to give some advice anyway.

00:13:08.260 Okay.

00:13:09.120 Take it or leave it.

00:13:09.980 You'll probably leave it.

00:13:10.880 Fine.

00:13:12.080 But if you're in that, especially if you're a gay activist, if you're a left-wing gay activist especially, then I'll say this.

00:13:24.360 You really don't do yourself any favors with this kind of stuff.

00:13:30.700 When you go and attack a guy as being anti-gay, when he didn't even say anything about gay people, when you attack someone as anti-gay simply for their religious views or for promoting the Bible or whatever, then you just come off as vindictive extremists.

00:13:51.860 And it turns people against you.

00:13:53.500 There's no advantage for you.

00:13:55.220 And it's not a smart strategy, especially because you've already won.

00:14:02.260 And this is what I say to feminists, too, all the time. 1.00

00:14:04.980 It's like you, for feminists, you already won. 1.00

00:14:08.380 You've got all the rights in the world.

00:14:09.960 You've got more rights than men, legally speaking. 0.94

00:14:11.840 So you've won.

00:14:12.700 That's it.

00:14:13.220 You won.

00:14:14.040 Congrats.

00:14:15.720 Go live your life now.

00:14:16.740 All you're doing now is undermining everything you achieve by coming off like crazy people and finding stupid things to complain about.

00:14:28.100 All you're doing, you know, you were in a position, and I'm still talking to feminists here, but where almost everyone was saying, yeah, okay, the feminists were right about that. 1.00

00:14:37.040 Women should vote. 1.00

00:14:37.880 Okay.

00:14:38.780 Everyone was agreeing.

00:14:39.440 And now, but for the last, like, 20 years, now all you're doing is making people turn against you when there's no reason for it.

00:14:47.000 It's the same thing with gay rights activists.

00:14:50.380 You know, if you're a gay person in this country, you can do whatever you want.

00:14:55.580 Now, you can get married.

00:14:56.420 You can do whatever you want.

00:14:58.040 You can be involved with whoever you want.

00:14:59.980 You can live with whoever you want.

00:15:01.160 You can love whoever you want.

00:15:02.060 You can do whatever you want.

00:15:02.860 And the general feeling of most people in this country, if you look at any survey, any poll, I mean, if you look at anything, if you just take a, you know, kind of take the general temperature of society on this issue, most people are libertarian now on issues of sexuality.

00:15:23.040 They just don't care what you do.

00:15:24.300 You can do what you want.

00:15:24.960 They don't care.

00:15:25.560 Just do what you want.

00:15:26.380 Whatever.

00:15:26.820 You don't need to tell us about it.

00:15:28.080 Just do it.

00:15:28.940 That's how most people feel.

00:15:31.260 Which, so what does that mean?

00:15:32.240 It means you won.

00:15:33.760 You know, you won.

00:15:34.780 That's it.

00:15:35.200 You got, you got what you want.

00:15:38.640 But rather than just sitting back and saying, okay, we achieved that.

00:15:47.680 Now, when you become vindictive and you go out looking for revenge, because that's, it seems to me, that's what the gay rights movement now has become. 0.89

00:16:01.300 It's now become, well, you've already, you got all the rights now.

00:16:03.880 So that's, that's done.

00:16:06.140 That's over.

00:16:06.800 And in fact, even though the gay rights movement, the quote unquote gay rights movement still exists, these are the same people who will tell us that it's a settled issue.

00:16:17.260 Gay, you know, gay marriage, settled issue, which we're not talking about.

00:16:19.900 Okay.

00:16:20.100 If it's a settled issue, then what is the gay rights movement anymore?

00:16:23.220 Well, I'll tell you what it's become.

00:16:24.480 It's become a movement of vengeance.

00:16:27.540 Now it's about circling back around and finding those people, or at least those kinds of people who opposed you and punishing them.

00:16:36.560 And that is, not only is that morally wrong, but it is just a really stupid strategy because you're going to turn people against you.

00:16:51.300 Whereas five, 10 years ago, most people in the country were saying, yeah, gay rights movement, good, good stuff, guys.

00:16:58.440 Now there are a lot of people who are, are against you now.

00:17:03.380 They may not be against gay rights in and of itself, but they're against you because of this kind of thing. 1.00

00:17:12.740 It's just really stupid.

00:17:17.200 Really stupid.

00:17:18.520 But hey, don't take it from me.

00:17:20.820 What do I know?

00:17:22.320 You know.

00:17:23.400 All right.

00:17:24.980 Let's, let's move on to something else.

00:17:27.660 Reading from a report in the Daily Wire now.

00:17:32.140 This is, it says, Wegmans, Walgreens, and CVS all banned open carry in their stores on Thursday following the same gun policy change from Walmart and Kroger the other day.

00:17:41.560 Unlike the other retailers that only called for a ban on open carry, CVS advised all customers except for authorized law enforcement officers to totally refrain from carrying at all, at all in their stores.

00:17:53.520 Wegmans posted on Twitter saying, there's nothing more important than the safety of our customers and employees.

00:17:57.660 The sight of someone with a gun can be alarming and we don't want anyone to feel that way at Wegmans.

00:18:01.840 For this reason, we prefer that customers not openly carry firearms in our stores.

00:18:06.680 I mean, frankly, I'm, I'm shocked that this is the first time Wegmans.

00:18:10.480 I'm shocked that up until now you could open carry in Wegmans of all places.

00:18:14.920 Walgreens tagged anti-gun rights activist Shannon Watts and thanked her for her advocacy on gun control and linked to their statement regarding open carry policy.

00:18:25.960 The statement said, we are joining other retailers and asking our customers to no longer openly carry firearms into our stores other than authorized law enforcement officials.

00:18:33.400 Um, and CVS also with a similar statement.

00:18:37.920 All right.

00:18:38.160 So, so we've got Walmart was first saying don't open carry, then Wegmans, Walgreens, CVS, Kroger all in the span of a week.

00:18:48.140 I'm going to maybe depart from the standard conservative line on this issue.

00:18:52.560 Maybe, uh, because I don't really, maybe, I don't know.

00:18:57.900 Maybe my opinion on this is, is actually in the majority.

00:19:00.680 I'm not, I'm not actually totally sure, but I will say that.

00:19:04.440 Um, well, remember with, with the Walmart announcement, I, I criticized the move back on Monday or Tuesday, whenever it was, because to me, it represented an unnecessary cave to the left.

00:19:15.220 Though in that case, Walmart had also said that it's going to stop selling ammunition for semi-autos.

00:19:21.460 And, and that was the main thing that from my perspective is worthy of criticism.

00:19:28.100 I, I thought, and I still think that it's just an absurd political move.

00:19:32.120 It's totally unnecessary to stop, even to stop selling this ammunition, uh, because of, uh, because of a mass shooting.

00:19:39.340 But on the issue of open carry in stores, yes, they're all making these changes largely for political reasons from political pressure.

00:19:49.440 I'm not crazy about that, but putting that to the side for a moment, uh, putting to the side that the catalyst of these moves, just looking at open carry itself.

00:19:59.480 I don't blame stores for not wanting it.

00:20:03.720 Okay.

00:20:04.360 I don't know if that makes me, uh, you know, that calls into questions, question my, my gun rights bona fides, but I, I don't blame, if a store says we'd prefer if you not visibly traipse around our stores with, with a gun, I just, that to me is, is reasonable.

00:20:22.840 I don't see that as an unreasonable request.

00:20:25.360 I think in general, it's perfectly rational for a store to not want customers to visibly bring guns into their establishments.

00:20:34.800 Uh, I just, I, I don't see any issue with that.

00:20:37.780 Open carry in general to me is pretty stupid.

00:20:41.520 Um, and I can tell you that I've lived in two different states that, that, that had, that allowed open carry.

00:20:47.120 And in those seven or eight years across those two states, I saw maybe five people doing it.

00:20:53.160 Maybe five.

00:20:54.120 I get off the top of my head.

00:20:56.560 I can think of four or five occasions where I actually saw someone open carry.

00:20:59.900 And the reason I remember it is because it was unusual.

00:21:04.380 Even in a state that allows open carry.

00:21:07.440 Um, but I can remember those few occasions where I saw someone, you know, with the gun in the holster, on the hip, out in the open, like, like a Clint Eastwood movie or something.

00:21:20.840 And in all five cases, it seemed pretty apparent to me that these folks were just showing off that there didn't appear in the context.

00:21:28.700 There didn't appear any, to be any reason at all for someone to visibly have a gun out.

00:21:32.800 And so I could only conclude that this was just a fashion statement, right?

00:21:38.020 They just felt cool having it.

00:21:39.740 And that is, look, most gun owners, I'm a gun owner myself.

00:21:45.240 Most of us, I think, are, are mature, responsible.

00:21:50.380 We care about gun safety.

00:21:51.900 We see the gun as a tool, right?

00:21:55.180 It's not a toy.

00:21:56.000 But there are some people who just think guns are cool.

00:22:00.380 They do treat them as toys.

00:22:01.860 They like taking pictures with them and putting the pictures online.

00:22:04.980 And it's just really silly.

00:22:06.600 Now, those people themselves aren't necessarily dangerous.

00:22:09.600 It doesn't mean that they're mass killers.

00:22:12.440 But it does mean that they're not the kind of mature, responsible gun owners that they ought to be.

00:22:19.020 Now, look, there may be some legitimate reasons to open carry.

00:22:22.660 I can't think of what those reasons would be, aside from professional reasons, like you're a police officer or you're in professional security or something.

00:22:31.340 Although even there, if you're in security, probably it's going to be more of a concealed carry situation.

00:22:35.180 But in any case, I think for the most part, it's a fashion statement.

00:22:39.540 Responsible, mature gun owners aren't interested in flashing their guns to people.

00:22:44.580 If they carry, they do it discreetly.

00:22:46.620 Because, by the way, there really is no advantage to showing off the fact that you have a gun, to advertising the fact ahead of time.

00:22:53.780 You just make yourself a target.

00:22:55.180 If somebody walks in, okay, if somebody walks into an establishment, they want to do a mass shooting, and they see that you visibly have a gun, well, that means they're just going to kill you first before you have a chance to respond.

00:23:05.640 This isn't like the Wild West, where you've got, you know, where you've got the quick draw, and, you know, you can, in .0 seconds, you can pull out the gun.

00:23:14.460 No, it's not going to be like that.

00:23:15.780 They're just going to take you down because you've advertised the fact that you're the threat, and then they're going to proceed to kill everybody else.

00:23:22.420 If you're not advertising the gun, well, then that's going to be a different story.

00:23:27.300 In a store setting, yeah, there are some customers who are uncomfortable seeing people openly carrying guns.

00:23:35.620 Now, you might not feel that way.

00:23:38.820 You might not understand why somebody would be uncomfortable around a gun.

00:23:43.380 But that's how some people feel.

00:23:44.880 That's how a lot of people feel.

00:23:46.740 You see, but from a business perspective, the fact that you, maybe as a gun rights activist, don't understand why people feel uncomfortable around guns, or you think it's silly,

00:23:56.580 that doesn't matter.

00:23:58.260 The fact is, a lot of people are uncomfortable with it.

00:24:01.500 That's just a fact.

00:24:02.240 So, from a business perspective, okay, you've got a large number of people who reasonably or unreasonably are uncomfortable around guns,

00:24:13.280 and then you've got a very small handful of people who would like to visibly bring their guns into the store to show off.

00:24:20.500 So, from a business perspective, which of those groups are you going to be more willing to alienate?

00:24:27.500 If you have to choose between those groups, if you have to choose between the hundreds of people who aren't really comfortable with open carry versus the, like, two or three idiots who would like to open carry in your store,

00:24:38.740 who are you going to get rid of?

00:24:40.060 The hundreds or the two or three?

00:24:41.400 It's just, it's a very obvious business calculation, and if we are free market capitalists, we should be in support of that.

00:24:49.920 It makes sense to do that.

00:24:52.620 Also, if I'm a business owner, my own comfort level with someone open carry is going to be very situationally based.

00:25:02.980 Okay, so if I'm running, let's say, a mom and pop hardware store in Waco, Texas, or somewhere in eastern Kentucky, then, yeah, probably I'm not going to be too worried about someone bringing their guns in.

00:25:17.620 It's because it's just a cultural thing, and it probably isn't going to, but even, although even in those places, even in Texas or in Kentucky, most people aren't open carrying.

00:25:27.660 Even if they can, they don't.

00:25:29.600 But there, in that situation, probably I won't mind.

00:25:32.340 But if I'm running a convenience store in Maryland, or like a gas station in Los Angeles, or a liquor store in Philadelphia or something, yeah, I'm going to be uncomfortable with people bringing guns in.

00:25:47.160 Now, those states don't have open carry, but you get my point.

00:25:49.760 It's situational.

00:25:51.160 In general, my own comfort level around guns, not as a business owner, but just as a person, my comfort level is also going to be situationally dependent.

00:26:04.720 And it depends really entirely on who the gun is attached to and why, right?

00:26:13.200 So, the gun rights people who act like they can't understand why anyone would ever be uncomfortable around a gun, that to me is really silly.

00:26:26.420 Of course there are situations where you're going to be uncomfortable.

00:26:28.760 It depends.

00:26:30.000 Now, for me, if I know that the gun owner is mature, reasonable, responsible, puts safety first, and all of that, then I'm not going to have any problem with the gun.

00:26:41.120 And, in fact, a person like that carrying a gun, I'm probably going to be more comfortable being around them.

00:26:46.280 But if I have reason to believe that the person is immature, irresponsible, flaky, whatever, they think the gun is a toy, you know, then, yeah, I'm going to be uncomfortable, too, around the gun.

00:27:02.080 Even as a gun owner, even as a gun rights activist, I'm going to be uncomfortable with that.

00:27:05.180 Because I'm going to think to myself, this is a very powerful and potentially dangerous tool that, it seems to me, this person is not equipped to be wielding.

00:27:17.940 And the thing is, it seems to me, if someone is wearing a gun as a fashion statement, they're probably more in the latter category.

00:27:26.760 It doesn't mean that they're killers.

00:27:28.380 It doesn't mean that they're going to commit a mass shooting.

00:27:30.180 It does probably at least mean that they're not very mature.

00:27:33.040 And so, yeah, I'm not going to be crazy about being around that either.

00:27:38.760 Which is why, even as a gun rights supporter and a gun owner myself, I don't like open carry.

00:27:44.000 I think it's dumb.

00:27:44.840 I'm not in favor of it.

00:27:47.900 One other point here, and I think that this would be obvious, but I actually found as I was talking about this, debating this issue on social media,

00:27:54.420 I found some people who really disagreed with me on this, as obvious as it seems to me.

00:28:00.400 That whether or not you agree with businesses banning open carry, and these businesses, they're not even banning it.

00:28:06.860 They're just saying, will you please not do it?

00:28:09.280 Will you please, we would prefer if you don't, will you respect our wishes?

00:28:12.100 And I've seen, I've seen, there are some people responding to that by saying, well, I don't care.

00:28:18.480 I'm doing it anyway.

00:28:20.560 That's just stupid.

00:28:21.760 You know, you don't own the place.

00:28:23.540 It's not your property.

00:28:24.900 Have respect, have just some, just be a, be a grownup and have some respect for what this, what they want.

00:28:30.860 It's not your property.

00:28:31.860 But I've also heard people say that, oh, this is a rights issue, and I have a right to bring a gun wherever I want.

00:28:37.980 No, you don't.

00:28:40.000 Yeah, you have Second Amendment rights.

00:28:42.840 I've, I would basically consider myself an absolutist on Second Amendment rights, just like I am on all the, on all the, you know, on the entire Bill of Rights.

00:28:51.160 Um, in that I think you, you have those rights, but that doesn't mean that you can bring a gun wherever you want.

00:29:02.040 Because there's also something else that exists and that is very fundamental.

00:29:05.420 And I think even more fundamental than gun rights, and that is property rights.

00:29:10.660 I am, I am definitely an absolutist on property rights.

00:29:14.600 I believe in property rights 100%, and I think that is one of the most fundamental rights we have as human beings.

00:29:22.140 It's one of the things that, that sets us apart as human beings, is that we can own property.

00:29:27.680 Um, and if that right is not respected and protected and enforced, then we can't have freedom.

00:29:36.340 Um, and so it's a property rights issue.

00:29:39.980 If I own the property, whether it's my business or it's my home, and I say, I don't want guns in here, then you can't bring your guns in.

00:29:49.200 Don't bring them in.

00:29:50.940 It doesn't, I don't care, it doesn't matter.

00:29:52.260 You don't have to agree.

00:29:53.220 It doesn't matter.

00:29:55.060 It makes no difference how you feel about it.

00:29:58.020 This is my property.

00:29:59.740 I own it.

00:30:00.780 I don't want it.

00:30:02.400 Don't bring it.

00:30:03.180 So, as gun rights advocates, um, we, we should just stick to that. 0.63

00:30:12.720 We should be gun rights advocates.

00:30:16.020 We shouldn't be worshippers.

00:30:18.340 We shouldn't turn them into, into idols.

00:30:21.900 Where they become these supernatural things.

00:30:24.920 And, and, you know, your, your ability to carry a gun can never be infringed in any circumstance, ever, no matter what, anywhere.

00:30:32.660 Like, that is not a reasonable position.

00:30:35.480 That is a crazy position.

00:30:37.660 And, and, and, and, and, and, and, when, when, when gun rights people take that position, it makes us all seem like unreasonable, perpetually aggrieved clowns who are always looking for a reason to martyr ourselves and, and complain.

00:30:53.360 We don't want to do that.

00:30:54.780 So let's focus on efforts by the government to infringe on gun rights.

00:30:59.700 That's a real thing that's happening.

00:31:01.040 But when a private business says, please don't bring your guns in, other customers aren't comfortable with it.

00:31:08.560 It's not, it's hurting our business.

00:31:09.980 Don't bring them in.

00:31:11.360 The, the correct response from us is, okay.

00:31:13.800 All right.

00:31:14.480 You know, I respect that.

00:31:16.120 And if we want to go and shop somewhere else, then we can.

00:31:21.400 All right.

00:31:22.600 Before.

00:31:24.860 Let's see.

00:31:25.340 I guess we'll get to, we'll get to emails.

00:31:27.640 Matt Walsh show at gmail.com.

00:31:29.460 Matt Walsh show at gmail.com is the email address.

00:31:32.060 This is from Adam says, hi, Matt.

00:31:34.540 Adam here.

00:31:35.020 I'm a 36 year old bearded R and D machinist.

00:31:37.960 I like scotch.

00:31:39.020 I love my wife and four kids, kids aged seven to 12.

00:31:42.840 I've never been soft, but I've noticed that lately I'll start crying pretty easily.

00:31:46.760 When I think back to how awesome my kids were when they were young, ages two to five and how I'll never be able to go back and have a conversation with them and hear the goofy things they said.

00:31:54.540 And how they said them don't get me wrong.

00:31:56.640 I absolutely adore my kids today, but they're becoming young adults now.

00:31:59.400 And our relationships have evolved.

00:32:01.720 I still pee standing up.

00:32:03.160 So I'm not terribly worried that I'm becoming a leftist.

00:32:05.280 I just wanted to ask if what I'm experiencing is something you've experienced.

00:32:09.660 Should I be concerned about my recent orbital leakage?

00:32:13.460 I appreciate all that you do.

00:32:14.880 Adam, I will put your fears at rest.

00:32:17.440 Fear not.

00:32:18.260 Orbital leakage among men is usually unseemly and inappropriate.

00:32:22.060 But and frankly, immoral, I would even say, and unethical and should be illegal.

00:32:28.360 But there are extremely limited numbers of circumstances where it is appropriate for a man to cry.

00:32:35.220 Although I will stipulate that even in those situations, in the appropriate situations, it can be OK for a man to emit up to five dignified manly tears.

00:32:47.120 And and and but but even then do it privately.

00:32:51.920 OK, don't be an exhibitionist.

00:32:53.980 Keep it at five tears and then cut yourself off and move on with your day.

00:32:58.060 But those circumstances are the end of the movie, Rudy.

00:33:04.020 At the funeral of a close friend or relative.

00:33:06.980 After being shot in the stomach.

00:33:09.520 Not in the leg or the arm.

00:33:10.820 OK, don't be a wimp.

00:33:11.640 But if shot in the stomach, fine.

00:33:13.500 And then finally, when thinking about your kids, that that can be that can be an acceptable time for a man to cry. 0.65

00:33:19.060 But just as I said, don't go overboard with it.

00:33:20.920 And I understand your feelings.

00:33:22.460 I you know, my kids are still in that age range that you're reminiscing, reminiscing about.

00:33:26.480 And I often think to myself how sad it's going to be when they're older and they've moved past this stage.

00:33:34.300 And that is that is kind of a perfect example is we over the weekend.

00:33:38.560 We went to the aquarium over this past weekend.

00:33:41.460 We went to the aquarium and my kid, the twins just turned six.

00:33:46.180 Our youngest is almost three.

00:33:48.260 And they absolutely love the aquarium.

00:33:50.380 They were just.

00:33:52.660 They just couldn't get enough of it.

00:33:54.780 They were running from exhibit to exhibit.

00:33:56.680 And, oh, daddy, look at this one.

00:33:58.160 Oh, this is amazing.

00:33:59.100 Wow.

00:33:59.400 Look at this.

00:33:59.900 They were just so excited and so much exuberance and joy and innocence.

00:34:05.680 And I couldn't help but think to myself, it's going to be really sad because one of these days, you know, they're going to be at that age where we go to the aquarium or something.

00:34:12.660 And they're walking around hands in pockets, rolling their eyes.

00:34:17.700 Just want to go home.

00:34:18.860 You know, I know that day is coming and it makes me sad to think about.

00:34:24.120 So I get how you're feeling.

00:34:25.400 But then the thing about being a human being is that I know where I'm at right now as a parent with my kids.

00:34:37.620 I know intellectually that eventually I'm going to look back on this and be nostalgic for it.

00:34:43.280 And so I do appreciate this phase, but I can't appreciate it fully because I still get there are things about little kids that can be very annoying, of course, and taxing and draining.

00:34:57.320 And so I often can be way too focused on those things and find myself thinking, oh, I can't wait till they're older.

00:35:05.540 We don't have to deal with this anymore.

00:35:06.500 Even though I know that those things are so small in comparison to the kinds of problems that are probably coming down the road as they get older.

00:35:14.620 And I also know that once I'm older, I'm going to look back on these moments and I'm going to see it as just pure joy, great across the board.

00:35:24.840 And I'm going to think to myself, why did you ever worry about those small little things?

00:35:28.680 Oh, so the kid, you know, woke up too early or they whined a little bit.

00:35:31.720 Like, why did you ever carry but care about that?

00:35:33.840 It's just it's such a small, stupid thing to care about.

00:35:36.320 It doesn't matter.

00:35:37.420 How could you have ever let that overshadow all of the all of the great things?

00:35:43.080 And so I know that down the line that realization is coming, yet I still can't fully get myself out of that mentality.

00:35:50.740 So it's just part of being a human, I guess.

00:35:55.320 This is from Maggie says, Dear Matt, you have a great show.

00:35:57.880 And both my husband and I really enjoy your views and agree with many things you say.

00:36:00.380 I always believed the moon landing happened until about a year ago and would like to share with you the reasons why I think it is unlikely that we went to the moon.

00:36:09.080 Unlike many deniers, my belief is not based on photos at all.

00:36:13.220 One, although the moon landing is widely associated with President Kennedy, all six moon landings happened during the presidency of Nixon from 1969 to 1972, who was a liar.

00:36:23.200 Two, never has exploration happened without any other country following suit.

00:36:26.660 How is it that the U.S. landed on the moon more than 15 years before you were born, yet no other country has succeeded?

00:36:32.500 This to me seems very unlikely.

00:36:34.280 Three, how is it that NASA has conveniently lost all the data to make a moon landing possible again?

00:36:39.120 And even after 40 plus years, we have not been able to rediscover the data.

00:36:42.620 Anyway, for the record, I'm not a crazy person.

00:36:44.280 I hate thinking that the moon landing is unlikely.

00:36:45.940 But unfortunately, I cannot help thinking about the politics of that time and the deception the U.S. government took part of.

00:36:51.440 So, kind regards, Maggie.

00:36:54.380 Well, Maggie, I appreciate the email.

00:36:58.460 You, the evidence that you provided for the moon landing being fake, none of that is evidence of anything.

00:37:09.320 It's not even circumstantial evidence.

00:37:11.320 The fact that President Nixon lied about some stuff, as all politicians do, is not even close to being evidence that the moon landing didn't happen.

00:37:22.560 For a number of reasons, not the least of which being, for the moon landing to be faked, it would require not just the president to be a liar, but lots of other people.

00:37:33.540 Hundreds, thousands of other people would have to be in on it.

00:37:36.600 Not only liars, but capable of coordinating this lie and keeping it a secret for all of these many years.

00:37:44.920 You're talking about a conspiracy on an enormous scale.

00:37:50.080 Not just the president.

00:37:52.360 So, the ethical issues of President Nixon, that, to me, is completely irrelevant.

00:38:00.440 You say, exploration hasn't happened with other countries, you cite the fact that other countries haven't landed on the moon as evidence that it didn't happen.

00:38:10.860 No, that's actually evidence that it did happen.

00:38:13.960 Okay, because it's, you're right, that this was during the Cold War, it was during the competition between the Americans and the Soviets.

00:38:22.260 If the Americans didn't actually land on the moon, then the Soviets would have continued to try to get there, and eventually they would have gotten there so that they could be the first ones to go. 0.84

00:38:33.300 So, the fact that after the Americans went a few times, countries stopped trying to go, at least stopped trying to land people on the moon, that's just evidence that we actually got there.

00:38:46.460 And so, now other countries are saying to themselves, you know, is it worth the enormous cost and the danger to human life to go land on the moon when someone's already done it?

00:39:00.140 Because, you know, if you want to go and study the moon, then you can send landers there, and you can send probes and landers, and several other countries have done that, including the Russians.

00:39:12.800 But, actually, stepping foot on the moon, for the most part, that was just a statement.

00:39:18.720 That was just being able to say we did it.

00:39:23.020 And so, once it's been done, it's just, it's not worth it.

00:39:25.920 But, if it hadn't been done, then other countries would be going, and some other country by now would have landed, probably the Russians.

00:39:33.680 So, again, the fact that they didn't, that's just more evidence that we actually did land on the moon.

00:39:38.740 And then NASA's lost all the data to make moon landing possible.

00:39:43.440 Well, that's just not true.

00:39:44.520 It's not that they've lost the data to make a moon landing possible.

00:39:47.800 It's that they've lost, number one, the funding.

00:39:49.580 Okay, we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars it would require to put feet, to put a man on the moon again.

00:39:56.560 And that requires a certain political willpower and also public support that just doesn't exist and hasn't existed for decades now.

00:40:06.960 Again, the main thing that pushed us towards landing on the moon back when we did was the Cold War.

00:40:14.800 It wasn't really, at least among most Americans, and certainly in the political class, it was not a desire for scientific exploration.

00:40:23.600 It was a desire to beat the Soviets.

00:40:27.660 Well, we don't really have that anymore.

00:40:29.740 So, there just isn't that willpower.

00:40:32.260 That's why we haven't landed.

00:40:33.220 And also because there isn't a specific particular reason to put people on the moon when we can just send a robot there and we can do all the soil samples and everything else that we've already done.

00:40:47.300 Now, the focus is, okay, let's put a man on Mars.

00:40:51.200 And so, I think, you know, in the next 10, 15 years, we're going to do that.

00:40:55.520 It's just, there's no reason to keep going back and putting people on the moon once it's been done.

00:40:59.840 So, I think everything you've cited, none of that amounts to evidence of anything.

00:41:08.460 And all of the evidence is in favor of the moon landing.

00:41:15.180 All of it is extremely in favor of the moon landing.

00:41:20.040 By the way, one other thing.

00:41:23.860 We planted a flag on the moon, right?

00:41:27.680 There is physical evidence on the moon right now that we were there.

00:41:32.520 Other countries, as I said, have sent probes to the moon.

00:41:35.380 They've orbited the moon.

00:41:36.920 They've sent landers on the moon or robots on the moon.

00:41:40.720 If there was no real physical evidence that we'd ever been there, the other countries would have discovered that by now.

00:41:46.600 Because they can go to the spot where we claim we put a flag and they can go and see, oh, look, there's no flag there.

00:41:51.700 And, what, do you think they'd just keep that a secret because they don't want to embarrass us?

00:41:57.900 You think the Russians would keep it a secret?

00:42:00.380 What are they going to say?

00:42:01.120 Oh, it's water under the bridge.

00:42:02.380 Let's not cause any problems for them.

00:42:05.820 No, that's the problem.

00:42:06.900 The moon landing conspiracy requires not just for almost the entire U.S. government to be in on it,

00:42:12.320 but it requires other world governments to be in on it, too, because they would know by now we never went,

00:42:17.680 and yet, for some reason, they're not saying it.

00:42:24.020 And it would be really easy for them to prove.

00:42:26.060 All they'd have to say is, hey, everybody, the Americans say they planted a flag at this and that coordinate.

00:42:30.520 Well, here's a picture.

00:42:31.720 No flag.

00:42:34.340 All right, let's see here.

00:42:35.360 This is from Hayden says, greetings, fearless and bearded leader.

00:42:41.960 I am currently a senior at the University of Alabama, and I have a full-blown case of senioritis.

00:42:46.680 However, I am taking a class on argumentation, and I have been chosen to build an argument and rebuttal on the topic of athletes getting paid.

00:42:53.760 I am personally against athletes getting paid because they're already getting paid by getting their college paid for.

00:42:58.620 I think athletes are just being a bunch of brats about wanting to get paid. 0.65

00:43:02.720 Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of football, but I even think NFL players are getting paid way more than they deserve.

00:43:08.320 I mean, they're just playing football, not at all contributing to our society other than the ridiculous political stances.

00:43:12.620 All that being said, what is your stance on athletes getting paid, and how would you argue for and against this subject?

00:43:18.680 First of all, as far as professional football players and how much they get paid, I disagree that they're paid too much.

00:43:24.480 These people are the best in the world at what they do.

00:43:28.760 And when you're the best in the world at something, you're going to get paid a lot of money.

00:43:32.720 It doesn't matter what it is.

00:43:33.900 Okay, so you could say it's a frivolous talent playing football, but that doesn't matter.

00:43:38.320 If you are the best in the world at anything, you're going to get paid a lot of money.

00:43:42.060 You could be the best in the world playing ping pong.

00:43:43.600 You could be the best in the world at the yo-yo.

00:43:45.720 You could be the best in the world at, I don't know, making pancakes.

00:43:48.700 I mean, if you're really the best in the world at that thing, you're going to get paid a lot of money for it somehow.

00:43:53.980 I mean, it would not be hard to exploit that for money.

00:43:59.440 So that's the first thing.

00:44:00.060 And as far as they're not really doing anything for society, I don't agree.

00:44:04.380 I think that they are.

00:44:05.400 They're providing entertainment.

00:44:08.360 They're providing a reason.

00:44:10.540 You know, if you go to a football stadium, you go, you enjoy it.

00:44:15.160 You know, I'm going to bring my son to a football game this year.

00:44:17.800 And you're with the community and, you know, you provide a little bit of unity.

00:44:22.120 You provide chances for family bonding, entertainment, all that.

00:44:25.400 Now, all that stuff, that's not the most important thing in the world.

00:44:28.860 It's not as important as, you know, maybe what a heart surgeon does or something.

00:44:33.320 But it's still important.

00:44:35.100 It's something.

00:44:35.680 I think that they're providing more for society than probably a lot of us are.

00:44:42.560 And in terms of college athletes getting paid, I have to disagree with you there as well,

00:44:50.340 because I think college athletes should be paid for one simple reason.

00:44:56.620 Because the NCAA is making billions upon billions upon billions of dollars off of these kids.

00:45:06.340 And, yeah, they're getting a free college education.

00:45:10.800 That's worth what?

00:45:12.980 You know, $100,000 at most?

00:45:15.900 They're worth a lot more than that to the college.

00:45:19.780 And so I think for the simple reason that they should get paid because that's what they're worth.

00:45:23.560 They're earning this money for the schools.

00:45:25.800 And the schools are happy to collect it.

00:45:29.800 You know, and the school, the NCAA goes out of its way to exploit

00:45:33.980 and to capitalize on these players.

00:45:37.220 So the idea that the players can't receive any money in return, to me, is crazy.

00:45:41.500 The schools are merchandising.

00:45:43.400 They've got video games.

00:45:44.980 And, yeah, I know that they, you know, you can't put the names on the jerseys.

00:45:48.040 You can't put the name.

00:45:48.720 You can't attach the name.

00:45:49.840 They have things that they do to try to pretend they're not exploiting and capitalize.

00:45:54.160 But they are.

00:45:56.660 The NCAA explores every possible avenue to make as much money as it possibly can off these kids.

00:46:02.820 And then where does that money go?

00:46:04.520 It doesn't go to charity.

00:46:05.780 I can tell you that.

00:46:06.540 That money goes to the coaches.

00:46:08.140 That money goes to the administrators.

00:46:10.120 That's where it goes.

00:46:12.080 So does it make sense to you that there should be college coaches

00:46:16.020 making tens of millions of dollars off of players who get paid zero?

00:46:22.920 It's a simple question, really.

00:46:24.780 There's billions of dollars being made by college football.

00:46:29.440 The money's there.

00:46:30.380 It's in a big pot, and it's there.

00:46:31.840 So the question is, should all of that money go to the administrators and the coaches

00:46:36.260 who are not actually playing in the games, or should the players get a little bit of it?

00:46:40.560 Because when you say the players shouldn't get paid, what you're also saying is,

00:46:44.400 I think all of those billions should go into the pockets of the coaches and the administrators.

00:46:48.800 I think they deserve all.

00:46:49.960 What you're saying is, they deserve all of it, and the kids deserve none of it.

00:46:54.760 That, to me, I can't even, I really can't even understand that perspective.

00:47:00.020 That, to me, is such a, you know, no offense, Hayden, but it's such a ridiculous perspective.

00:47:05.020 When, when, again, when you consider the fact that the money exists, it's there, it's in a giant Scrooge McDuck vault, you know, imagine it.

00:47:16.740 It's all there.

00:47:17.840 It, it, it, it's, someone's, it's, it's going to somebody.

00:47:20.860 And, uh, the idea that it should only go to the people who don't play, it just, just, just doesn't make sense.

00:47:29.400 If, if the NCAA was serious about, oh, well, this is, this is amateur, this is, this is about, this isn't about making money.

00:47:35.020 Okay, well, then, then don't pay the coaches $10 million a year.

00:47:38.680 Don't pay the, the administrators millions.

00:47:41.560 If you're paying them millions, then clearly it's about money.

00:47:44.440 The whole amateur thing, the amateur thing is such, it's, it's not amateur when there's billions of dollars being made.

00:47:53.620 That's amateur? Come on.

00:47:55.540 No.

00:47:56.920 College football is basically, and has been for a long time, professional.

00:48:01.900 It is professional.

00:48:03.740 It is a, it is a, it is a game that makes billions of dollars.

00:48:07.540 When you're playing a game and earning billions of dollars doing it, even if you're not seeing a dime of it,

00:48:11.980 if, if, if, if, if, if it's earning billions, it's professional by any definition of the term.

00:48:17.740 The fact that it's, you know, that there's a, that next door to the stadium, there's a building where people are reading books.

00:48:24.020 That to me doesn't mean anything.

00:48:25.660 That doesn't mean that it's not professional.

00:48:27.060 It is professional because of how much money is being made.

00:48:31.020 All right.

00:48:34.660 And, okay, we'll just, you know, I'll, I'll leave it there.

00:48:37.320 Yeah, maybe I, I, I, I have about 20 more minutes I could do on this subject.

00:48:43.820 So maybe I'll have to revisit it later.

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The Matt Walsh Show - September 06, 2019

Ep. 326 - Drew Brees Promotes The Bible, Gets Attacked As Anti-Gay

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