Ep. 332 - The Kavanaugh Bombshell That Wasn't
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Deborah Ramirez has new allegations against Brett KAVANAKEVIN KAVANNAKE, and they re not fresh allegations. They re old allegations that date back 30 years to a party at Yale, and were never published before they were published by the New York Times.
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So did you hear about this bombshell? Bombshell. It's a bombshell. There was a huge bombshell
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this past weekend. New allegations against Brett Kavanaugh. New allegations. Hooray.
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That's very exciting. They got him now. New allegations. The left was very excited about
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this. They can't even, you know, that's one thing before we get into these allegations such as they
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are. One thing you notice about the left is that they can't, when someone they dislike has been
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accused of sexual assault or whatever, they can't contain their glee about it. They're extremely
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happy. They don't even pretend to really be concerned about the alleged victim. They just,
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they're so happy that this person has supposedly done this thing. Well, so impeach Kavanaugh was
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trending. Democrat presidential candidates got in on the act calling for his impeachment.
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The media was having a field day. It was all over the place. This new allegation of sexual assault.
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And that was, that was all the story they were telling anyway. But of course, it all comes crashing
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down. Now we're going to go through this. We're going to talk about the allegation and everything
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else. We'll follow the trajectory of this alleged bombshell. And it began on, on Saturday with the
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New York Times publishing an article by Robin Pogrebin and Kate Kelly, who are, who are writing a book
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about Brett Kavanaugh. And during their investigation for the book, they uncovered, by the way, there are
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air quotes around a lot of the things I'm saying here. Investigation, air quotes, uncovered air quotes,
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air quotes, fresh allegations, air quotes. So just everything I'm saying, just do your own air quotes.
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Um, these are fresh allegations, which actually aren't fresh at all. They go back 30 years to
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Kavanaugh's college days and they are accusations that were known to reporters who were covering the
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Kavanaugh case, the Kavanaugh hearings, but they weren't published before. And why weren't they
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published? Well, I think we'll see in a minute. First, it's kind of weird. The New York Times had this
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alleged bombshell, but they didn't make that the headline. And I was confused at first when I,
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when I first started seeing this people freaking out online about these allegations, and then they
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were linking to this New York Times article, click on the New York Times article. And the headline has
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nothing to do with any new allegations. The headline is, um, Brett Kavanaugh fit, fit in with the privileged
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kids. She did not. Deborah Ramirez's Yale experience says much about the college's efforts
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to diversify its student body in the 1980s. And so you read that and you say, what? Deborah Ramirez
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diversifying the student body? What, what? Deborah Ramirez is that woman who claimed that, uh, that, uh,
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Kavanaugh shoved his, his, uh, his privates into her face at a party at a college party.
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And we knew about her. Why is she the headline? Well, maybe because the bombshell allegation
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isn't much of a bombshell at all, but you could judge for yourself. According to a guy named Max
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Steyer, who, by the way, is a Clinton associate. And that's quite a, that's quite a hell of a, of a
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by the way. It's not even really a by the way. That's, it's a very important part of this story.
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This is a Clinton associate. Um, he saw, he says that he saw Brett Kavanaugh's friends force Brett
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Kavanaugh's penis into a girl's hand at a college party 30 years ago. Now let's, let's stop there
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for, for just a moment. Even if this event really happened, um, which it didn't, and we'll get to
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that in a second, but, but even if it did, I'm, I'm trying to understand the, the, the logistics
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of this. I don't really want to picture it, but I, I, if I tried to picture it, what, what,
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how does a, a third party individual force someone else's penis into someone else's hands? What,
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what does that even look like? Can you, I don't even, I don't even understand what the allegation
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is supposed to be. What are, what exactly are you claiming happened? And how is there no follow
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up? Okay. If you hear, if someone says, yeah, I saw Brett Kavanaugh, someone's forced Brett Kavanaugh's
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penis. How do you not follow up and say, wait a second, what it described for me exactly what
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happened? Point A, point B, point C, just take me through the, how do you not do that? How do you
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just say, oh, okay, moving on? Um, the claim I guess is that Kavanaugh had his pants down
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at a, at a party and, uh, and, and, and well, that's always, the pants were down and then he
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was, somehow he was, he was forced his, his, his body or, or his, his penis. I don't know,
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but it was forced to make contact with a girl saying, what? So it seems to me that, that there
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are two, there are two possibilities here for this made up story. Um, one is that Brett Kavanaugh had
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his, had his pants down and his, and his, you know, his, his situation was, was on full display
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and a girl just so happened to innocently accidentally have her hand in the vicinity
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of Brett Kavanaugh's penis. I, you know, and then he was pushed and then the contact was made
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in which case it would seem like that really wasn't much of an accident because I don't know,
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I mean, in what scenario would you ever accidentally have your hand in the vicinity of, of that? Or,
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uh, we would have to imagine that the girl was somewhere across the room. She was dragged by the
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hand and then Brett Kavanaugh was dragged by the, well, we won't go into that. And, and, and then,
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and then contact was made from there either way. It just, it just, it, it doesn't, it doesn't make
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any sense. And so before we even get to the fact that this didn't really happen, it's like, even
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if it did, what, what? I, okay. All we can say about that is, okay, that's weird. That's a weird
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thing. Okay. Happened 30 years ago. Obviously we're missing some pieces of this story. Uh, anyway,
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moving on. And, and, and besides which, even if we look, overlook all of that,
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wouldn't the culprit in this case be the person who forced Brett Kavanaugh's, you know, force this
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contact to take place. The accusation is that he was somehow propelled forward against his will. So
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isn't, isn't he also a victim of sexual assault in that case? It's just a very weird claim, um,
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that makes no sense at all. Something that again, even if it did happen, however, it could have
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happened logistically, it wouldn't matter. It wouldn't make Kavanaugh a rapist or anything close
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to that. So we could just say, okay, that happened. Who cares? Moving on. But of course it didn't happen.
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Um, the New York times two days after publishing the original piece issued a correction this morning
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and the correction, this is a, this is a hell of a correction. This isn't really a correction so much
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as a, I mean, really this is, this should be in effect. What it is, is a retraction of the story,
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but they call it a correction. And, uh, the correction says an earlier version of this article,
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which was adapted from the forthcoming book from a forthcoming book did not include one element of
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the book's account regarding an assertion by a Yale classmate that friends of Brett Kavanaugh pushed
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his penis into the hand of a female student at a drunken dorm party. It didn't include one element.
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You ready for the element? It didn't include the book reports that the female student declined to
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be interviewed and friends say she doesn't recall the incident. That information has been added to the
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article. Okay. So the alleged victim says she doesn't remember anything like that happening.
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This is a story from a politically partisan man about what happened to a woman, but the woman has
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no recollection of it. So if we're believing women, then wouldn't we have to just discard this?
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Believe women. Okay. Well, the woman says, I don't know. I don't remember it.
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All you can do then is, is, is, is nothing. Just move on. Um, or if it did happen or if something
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like it happened, it was such a non-event, such a minor thing that she retained no memory of it.
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So believe women has become believe men who tell stories about what happened to women 30 years ago
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at college parties and that just does not have the same ring to it, you know? Um, so, and, and I
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guarantee you here, here's what's going to happen next. Next, they're going to start telling us that
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the reason the woman doesn't remember it is because, uh, she's so traumatized that it's a repressed
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memory. It was, she's so, you know what they'll tell us? They'll tell us that the fact she doesn't
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remember it is even more proof that it did happen because it was so traumatic for her to make that
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contact with Brett Kavanaugh's member that she has to repress them. I, I, you know, I'm not joking.
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That's what they're going to tell us, but where are we left? Um, we are left again with the fact
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that the truth doesn't matter anymore. The truth has been slaughtered on the altar of partisanship.
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And from the left's point of view, all that matter matters is to destroy Kavanaugh.
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Um, and, and that's all that anyone cares about. And this is, you know, I believe this is not just
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the attitude among Democrat politicians, though it is their attitude for sure. And among media elites and
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so on, I think this is sort of the average leftist Democrat. This is how they feel as well.
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I think most of the average leftists out there, um, they realize that a lot, they must realize that
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a lot of this stuff is at least probably bogus, but they don't care because they say, well, we got
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to take Kavanaugh down. He's a threat to women's rights or whatever nonsense. This latest allegation,
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even before we get to the correction, quote unquote, uh, saying that the woman doesn't remember,
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remember it even before you get to that. That's why I've been harping on. We don't need that almost
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is irrelevant because the actual story itself is irrelevant. And so if you actually read the story,
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there's no way all these people impeach Kavanaugh, he's a rapist. There is no way, there is no way
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that a sincere person that, that a person that an, that a, an intelligent person could sincerely read
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that story and come away thinking, well, that's rape. He's a rapist. No one could think that there's
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no way it's not possible. The, even if you take it seriously, the most you could think is,
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wow, that's weird. So if you're going all the way, oh, he's a rapist, there's no way you actually
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think that they're only saying that because they want to get rid of Kavanaugh. And for them,
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the ends justify the means. And this is, this is where ends justify the means that mentality,
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that philosophy, this is where that really rears its ugly head is, is, is, I think there are a lot
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of people in this country that that's the way they look at it. That truth doesn't matter. Honesty
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really doesn't matter. All that matters is we have this end in mind. We have this goal in mind
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and we're going to do whatever needs to be done to get there. And it just, it doesn't,
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if we've got to destroy an innocent man, we're going to do it. If we have to,
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if we have to smear someone, if we have to amplify and elevate lies and everything, then we'll do it.
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And, and, and, and you know what, here's what else they think. The person, Kavanaugh in this case,
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even if he didn't do these things, he still deserves it because he disagrees with us.
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That psychologically, that's an important part of the, of the story here. I think
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is that the people who are amplifying and running with these very obvious smears and lies.
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remember when, when, what's her name? Uh, uh, what was the crazy woman? Sweatnik. When Sweatnik and,
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and Avenatti came out with, with their story, claiming that, that Kavanaugh was part of a roving
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gang of, of, of serial rapists who were, who were terrorizing the DC area for much of the eighties,
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uh, just going around and, and, and, and, and, and, you know, and they would have these essentially
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rape parties where women will be raped one at a time. And somehow women would still show up to
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these parties. Uh, remember when that story, when that, when that claim was, was made clearly
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ridiculous. Uh, even if you think that Kavanaugh, even if you think that the Ford allegations are true,
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there's no way the Sweatnik thing would still be too crazy to accept. But remember that when that
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allegation was made, most leftists, including media members, Democrats, they went with it. They,
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they went with that story for as long as they possibly could. Did they really believe it? No,
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but their attitude is number one ends justify the means. Number two, Brett Kavanaugh deserves it
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because he disagrees with us. He's a bigot by default. He's a bigot. He's a sexist. He's all,
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he's all the worst things in the world because he disagrees with us. And so even if he didn't really
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commit rape, he has in effect ideologically done that. And so we can still pin this on him and he
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deserves it. That's the way it is. You know what it is with the left? I think it's very similar. It's,
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it's kind of like what happened to OJ, where I think prosecutors with the, with all, with the
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weird thing where he stole back his own merchandise and he got, he got this absurd sentence for it.
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The kind of thing that most people, if you did that, whatever that, whatever that whole situation
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was, you might not even go to jail for it. I think everyone understood that what prosecutors were
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doing is they, they realized that, that OJ had committed murder and gotten away with it.
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They got their second crack at him. And even though the second crime wasn't nearly as serious,
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they still said, well, we, yeah, but we know that he committed murder. So we're just gonna,
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that's the main thing we're trying to punish here. And so they sent him to jail. And with the left's
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attitudes, the kind of the same thing where they think with Kavanaugh, uh, yeah, he didn't really
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do this stuff, but he has committed an underlying crime. Only the underlying crime in this case is
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not murder. It's just that he's has the wrong ideology. They think that's the underlying crime.
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And so whatever we can stick on him in order to punish him for that, we'll do it. And it's justified.
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All right. Um, I would be remiss if I didn't mention this. It's, it's huge news. Sam Smith,
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you know, Sam Smith, the, the pop singer, the guy that sang, uh, what are you saying? He sang,
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uh, stay with me and, and maybe some other song. Anyway, Sam Smith has come out as multiple.
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He's come out as plural. Uh, he is two apparently, or maybe three. He is, he's multiple people. Sam Smith
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says that his pronouns now are they, them. Those are his pronouns or, or those are their pronouns.
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I should say. Now I have to read for you the Buzzfeed article about this breaking news. And as I read,
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please keep in mind that I'm not making this up. This is all real. This is a real article. This is
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a real story. Uh, here's what Buzzfeed says. Singer Sam Smith, who came out as non non-binary earlier
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this year announced on Friday that their gender pronouns are they slash them. After a lifetime of
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being at war with my gender, I've decided to embrace myself for who I am inside and out. They said in a
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Twitter thread, I'm so excited and privileged to be surrounded by people that support me in this
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decision. Smith continued, but I've been very nervous about announcing this because I care too
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much about what people think, but F it. When they previously came out as non-binary, Smith said
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they would keep he, him pronouns. Their thoughts and feelings on the matter have since involved,
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evolved. Smith has publicly talked about their curiosity, curiosity with sexuality and gender,
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and has typically expressed ambiguous feelings about the latter. Um, Smith's decision to use
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they, them pronouns makes them the latest celebrity in a long line of mainstream actors and writers who
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have done the same thing, including younger actor, Nico Tortorilla and pose star India Moore. It should
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be noted that someone's name or pronoun do not necessarily tell you anything about their gender or
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other identities. According to my pronouns, a resource for educating people about inclusive pronoun
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language in their thread about the news. Smith acknowledged that there might be mistakes and
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misgendering by people whose intentions may not necessarily mean to harm or hurt, but all I ask you
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please is to try. They said Smith also told fans that this was still, that this was a very fresh change
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and they were not at a place to eloquently speak at length about what it means to be non-binary,
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but I can't wait for the day that I am. They added. Okay. Um, love you all. Smith said in their final
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tweet in the thread. Well, this is just utter, I wanted to read all that to you because this is
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Buzzfeed, Buzzfeed being very well woke, of course, as we know. And so they're using they, okay. They
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Buzzfeed are using the quote, quote, correct pronouns for they Sam Smith. And, um, as I read
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it to you, you have no idea what the hell I'm saying because, or you have no idea who the they
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refers to in any given sentence. It's just total nonsense. It doesn't just, just take that last
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paragraph. For example, Smith also told fans that this was still a very fresh change and they were
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not at a place to speak at length about it. Well, okay. In, in normal English, if you read that
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sentence, Smith also told fans that this was still a fresh, very fresh change and they were not at a
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place. You would think the, they refers to the fans because the fans are the plural entity in that
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sentence. But in this case, uh, it refers back to Smith now, but it doesn't make any sense. This is
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again, just total nonsense that, you know, we call this enlightened and tolerant and, and, and diverse
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and everything, but there's another term for it. Bad grammar. This is just bad grammar. That's all
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this is. This is very bad grammar. This is bad writing. So look, here's the thing. Um,
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first of all, this is, this is along with being bad grammar, this is pure unadulterated narcissism.
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This is just grade a pure narcissism injected straight into the veins. I, this is someone
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Sam Smith or the Sam Smiths, I suppose. And by the way, he keeps referring to himself as I and me.
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Shouldn't he be saying, you know, I don't know how, so he should be saying we, I guess.
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Shouldn't he be saying us and we, if he's a, they, then he can't also be an I.
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Oh, but of course it doesn't matter because he gets to make up the rules as he goes along. He can
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just twist the English language, tear apart rules of grammar, cut it all down because that's what he
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wants to do. That's what they want to do. Um, and why? Because the Sam Smiths consider themselves
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to be so interesting, so deep, so mysterious, right? So, so profound that normal grammar can't
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apply to him or them. So he identifies as they, what the hell does that mean? Can anyone explain it to
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me? I mean, let's just, let's just talk at a very, at a very elemental, elementary level here. Um,
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explain to me what a they feels. You say, I identify as a they, I feel like a they. Well,
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what does that mean? What do you mean? Explain to me the, the, the psychological, uh, experience,
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the inner life of a they, because I'm thinking now what comes to mind is a schizophrenic.
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You, you must be, but if you're telling me you're not a schizophrenic
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and, and, and you feel as though you are just one person and not two or three or four,
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then what does it mean for a, a, a, for a single individual to feel like a they just explain,
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give me, give me like five sentences explaining that. I guarantee you can't, you can't even explain
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what you mean because it doesn't mean anything. It's the same thing. I always say, I go back to
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when men say, I feel like a woman. Okay, really? Give me five sentences about that. Give me five sentences
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explaining what that means. That's all. Just tell me what it means. You can't because it doesn't
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mean anything. It has no meaning. It's a statement devoid of meaning. The phrase, my pronouns, here are
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my pronouns. These are my pronouns. That makes as much sense as saying my verbs or my prepositions
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or my adjectives. These are grammatical constructs. Okay. You don't, you don't get to take ownership
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of them. Language isn't your toy. It isn't something that you grab and own and say, this is mine.
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It's rules exist and operate apart from your desires and your narcissism. You might as well say that your
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verb is run. And so therefore, whatever you happen to be doing, whether you're walking, jogging,
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sitting, standing, lying down, rolling around in the grass, whatever you're doing, you, you, people
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must describe you as running because your verb is running. Now, don't you dare, if you're listening
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to this, say, oh no, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a straw man of what it's not a straw man.
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This is exactly the same kind of thing to say, again, pronoun is a grammatical thing. It's a
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grammatical construct to say that it's yours. Here's, here's mine. It is exactly the same thing
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as saying my verb, my noun, my adjective. It makes no sense. It's not yours. You can't have your own.
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The rules of grammar and language. Okay. Now, and whenever I talk about this, someone's quick to
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point out that, oh, a grant language changes over time and it evolves. Yeah, it does. And I'll even
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say, I'll even say this language is in a way arbitrary, just in the sense that we call a horse,
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a horse, but we don't have to, we could call it anything. And, and, and countries, all languages
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all across the globe and throughout history have had different words, uh, to describe the large
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hooved creature that we ride. Right. And, and depending on what country you're in, they're
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going to call it different things, but we can't all just come up with our own individual words
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for horse. You see, we have agreed upon with that's, that's language. And it is objective
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in the sense that it's objective that in English, we call a horse, a horse. Now it could change over
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time. Yes. And it's different in different countries, but that is what we call it in our
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language. And so if you start calling a horse cow or chair or, or, or cloud or fiffer doodle,
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if you start using that word for horse, I can say you're wrong. That that's no, that's not,
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it's not a fiffer doodle. That's a horse. Okay. Because, and here's why, because if we all just
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came up with our own individual words for horses and cows and, and, and, and houses, and, and if we
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all came up with our own individual words for all these things, we would have no way of communicating
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about anything anymore. We wouldn't be able to communicate. If we all have our own word for
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horse, now we can't communicate about horses anymore because I have no idea what your word
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is and you don't know what my word is. Then what happens is language breaks down and you are left with
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nonsense. It's the same with pronouns. Yes, we don't have to use the words he and him in reference to
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males. Other languages use other words, but these are our words. And if we all just get to make up our
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own pronouns arbitrarily based on whatever the hell standard, then language breaks down and our ability
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to communicate is greatly hindered. Referring to a single individual as they is ridiculous and confusing
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and it makes no sense. And I'm convinced that that's the point. The people who make these demands
00:26:32.060
are so crushingly narcissistic, so incredibly egotistical that, that they want to control the
00:26:40.620
language used about them when they aren't even in the room. And they want it to be difficult. They want
00:26:48.540
you to jump through linguistic hoops. They want it to make no sense because they enjoy the power trip
00:26:55.500
of making you dance to their tune. That's really what this is. And so I don't want to hear any, any,
00:27:03.460
uh, well intentioned, but, but, but in, but wrong people say, well, yeah, Sam Smith is, uh, you know,
00:27:10.980
it doesn't really make any sense. This they, them thing and everything, but, but, you know, we, we,
00:27:15.480
we should, we should go along with it because he's, you know, he's, he's confused or he's, no, he's not.
00:27:21.300
This is just an absolute egomaniac who's trying to control, who's, who wants his own rules for
00:27:29.000
language because that's, that's how interesting of a person he is. I mean, listen to people,
00:27:36.520
non-binary, listen to them explain, you know, how they discover it. It's just, it's so, it's,
00:27:41.360
it is, it's always so arrogant. You know, I look deep within myself and I discovered that I just,
00:27:48.800
I don't fit in with the, with the normal things. I just, I'm saying, oh, shut up already.
00:27:55.820
And however you feel about yourself, language does not work that way. You don't get to make up your
00:28:02.340
own rules for language that other people have to follow when they're addressing you or discussing
00:28:08.140
you. And by the way, if pronouns are meaningless, basically, because they would, if you're saying
00:28:16.260
that a pronoun doesn't really mean anything, so you could just change it on a whim, then why change
00:28:23.720
it to begin with? If you're saying it doesn't mean anything. So if it all doesn't mean anything,
00:28:28.500
then what is it to say? Oh, I don't identify as he or him. Well, it doesn't, that doesn't mean
00:28:32.180
anything apparently. So what do you mean you don't identify it as, and you identify as she? Well,
00:28:36.780
apparently she doesn't mean anything either. So what do you mean you identify as that?
00:28:41.780
And if a woman does not have to be she, then why is it that when a man identifies as a woman,
00:28:47.420
he insists on being called she? But I mean, what's even the point of pointing out, we could sit here
00:28:55.280
all day and point out the contradictions and the whole, in the left's gender identity, everything.
00:29:01.180
We could point out the contradictions all day because none of it makes any sense and they can't
00:29:05.680
explain it. Because it's not about making sense. It's just about control. And this is the main thing
00:29:14.240
I want you to take away from this. Yeah, we know this is nonsense. We know it's crazy. We know all
00:29:20.200
that. I mean, if you're a rational person, you know that. But the next step is for us all to
00:29:25.600
understand why they're really doing this. It's not because, Sam Smith is not confused. He doesn't
00:29:31.600
think he's two people. He is not actually schizophrenic. He knows that he is a single
00:29:36.100
male individual. He knows that. It's about control. That's what this is about.
00:29:44.060
And you know what? Even if you're uncomfortable with people using the correct pronouns when addressing
00:29:53.160
you, you know what? That's your problem. Okay? Because it makes everyone else uncomfortable
00:30:00.440
when we are given these arbitrary rules that we have to follow and that we couldn't possibly know
00:30:06.000
ahead of time. And when we are forced to engage in nonsense speech, that makes us uncomfortable.
00:30:14.840
So we have a choice here. Either you are uncomfortable or everybody else is. Guess what?
00:30:22.480
In a civilized society, you, as the person with the unreasonable expectations and as the person
00:30:30.420
who is uncomfortable with a reasonable thing, and the reasonable thing in this case is using
00:30:34.600
grammatically correct terms, you as the person who's uncomfortable with that, you just have to
00:30:38.500
deal with it. That's it. It's kind of like I tell people with pet peeves, right? When you have
00:30:49.340
some... And we all have this, right? We all have things. And this is what a pet peeve is. A thing
00:30:56.300
that... A normal thing, a normal and innocent thing that people do that annoys the hell out of you.
00:31:03.580
Right? Because if it's a rude thing that people do and that annoys, that's not a pet peeve. That's
00:31:07.360
just... That's a normal peeve. A pet peeve is it's a normal thing, a totally normal standard thing that
00:31:14.920
people do. And for whatever reason, it annoys you. Well, in that case, that's your problem. You just
00:31:21.560
have to deal with it. That's your issue. You can't expect to control everybody else. Everyone else
00:31:26.820
doesn't have to operate around your hang-ups and your weird things that you got going on. You just
00:31:32.340
need to control that. That's your problem. For instance, my pet peeve, one of them, I have many.
00:31:40.680
I don't like it when people eat bagels around me. I don't like the sound. Even when someone's
00:31:45.760
chewing with their mouth closed. I don't like the sound of people eating bagels for some reason.
00:31:50.560
And maybe I have some kind of bagel-related trauma as a child. I don't know. But it's a thing and I
00:31:55.720
hate it. But can I demand that people just cease eating bagels? If I walk into Panera Bread, can I
00:32:02.240
say, hey, everybody, stop. Put your bagels down right now until I leave. Can I do that? No,
00:32:09.780
because that's my problem. Because they're not doing anything wrong by eating bagels.
00:32:14.140
I'm the one with the weird hang-up, not them. And so if you have some weird thing about how you
00:32:20.640
don't like the proper grammatical term for you that refers to you as a male, that's your issue.
00:32:28.160
All right. Now, before we get to emails, I have to tell a quick story. I got to tell it today
00:32:44.100
because I'll, as it's fresh in my mind, because there's a lesson in it, in this story, a moral to
00:32:52.760
it. And the moral is that as a parent, disaster lurks around every corner, even in mundane
00:33:01.260
situations when you least expect it. So I took my son to his first NFL game yesterday. We went to
00:33:08.340
the Ravens. Great game. Ravens won. Had a blast. There was one hiccup, though. In the middle of the
00:33:13.940
game, he had to go to the bathroom, unfortunately. And so I took him into the gross stadium bathroom.
00:33:19.620
And, you know, if you've been to a stadium, you know that every stadium bathroom, at least every
00:33:24.780
football stadium bathroom is disgusting. And it's just a law of physics. I don't know. They're all
00:33:29.860
disgusting all the time. And so my son, he goes into the stall, and I'm waiting right outside the
00:33:40.260
stall. And unbeknownst to me, he locks the door in the stall. And I know he did that, but he did.
00:33:45.500
And then a line of inpatient drunks forms, right, waiting to get in so they can make their own
00:33:53.540
deposit. And finally, he finishes up, and he tries to leave the stall, but he can't figure out how to
00:33:59.780
unlock the door. You know, he's a young kid. He's six years old. He couldn't figure out how to unlock
00:34:04.660
it. And he was jiggling it, and he couldn't get it unlocked. He was getting flustered. And so I'm
00:34:09.920
talking to him through the crack in the door. I'm saying, buddy, buddy, just turn the lock. Just turn
00:34:14.840
it. I can't. I can't. No, just turn it. Just turn the lock. Just turn it. This. You see this with my
00:34:22.320
hand? Do this. Do this. And then, you know, and I'm turning to the people in the line. I'm saying,
00:34:28.100
sorry, buddy. Buddy, turn the lock. Just turn the lock. And then I start doing the thing where,
00:34:32.960
you know, where you're screaming at your kid, but you're also whispering. It's like, turn the lock.
00:34:37.780
There's people waiting. Turn the lock. And anybody can't do it. And so now I'm starting to panic.
00:34:44.840
My son's panicking. I'm panicking now in my head because I start to realize that I have three
00:34:50.700
options here, and all of them are horrific. One, I can tell him to crawl under the door
00:34:55.240
on the urine-soaked floor, and then we'll just hightail out of the bathroom and leave this line
00:35:01.960
of drunk people to deal with the stall that is now locked from the inside. Or I can crawl under the
00:35:09.200
door on the urine-soaked floor and unlock it for him. Or option three, I can leave him in the stall,
00:35:16.520
go back to the game, let him figure it out, let nature take its course.
00:35:21.800
Now, so I'm going through this list in my head, and I'm giving very strong consideration to option
00:35:27.980
number three. I have to be honest with you. But then I realized that for many different legal reasons,
00:35:32.160
probably number two is what it's going to have to be. And now I'm trying to come to grips with the fact
00:35:37.880
that I am going to have to army crawl on a stadium bathroom floor through the collective
00:35:44.200
urine of about 9,000 drunk people. And I'm trying to come to terms with the fact that I'm going to
00:35:50.540
leave this game with hepatitis at a minimum. And I am in full freakout mode inside my head. And then
00:35:59.440
just then, in that moment, my son is able to free himself. He finally figured out how to turn it in
00:36:05.280
the right direction, and he came out. And so it was a very close call, very close call. Because I had
00:36:12.280
this line, remember, and it was like in one of the break between first and second quarter, people
00:36:17.980
wanted to get back out before the game started. People were impatient. So I was about 20 seconds away
00:36:22.660
from crawling on that freaking floor. Oh my gosh. And now, as a dyed-in-the-wool germaphobe, I am
00:36:30.340
traumatized just by the thought of what I might have had to do. Just the thought of it has traumatized
00:36:36.940
me. All right. Let's see here. We'll go to emails. We'll do a couple of emails.
00:36:45.000
mattwalshow at gmail.com. mattwalshow at gmail.com.
00:36:52.660
From Jay says, Hello there. Just wanted to throw an opinion about the problem of pain. Yeah, I'm still
00:36:58.580
getting pretty much all my emails about the problem of suffering, which we talked about last week,
00:37:02.760
which is great. Again, I think it's an interesting topic. All right. I'll read a couple of them,
00:37:09.720
and then I think we'll have to move on from this topic eventually. Just wanted to throw an opinion
00:37:13.300
about the problem of pain that you've been discussing lately. First, I am fully aware that I, nor anyone else,
00:37:17.640
can claim to know the depth of complexity of God and his reasons for everything. For what it's worth,
00:37:21.760
though, I've tended to view pain and suffering through the idea of growth. Often when we suffer
00:37:27.320
as rationing, or I guess he means rational adults, we can later see how that event has provided
00:37:33.340
opportunity to grow and develop spiritually, emotionally, and or physically. When the innocent
00:37:37.300
suffer, like your example of children suffering, I often wonder if that is for the growth of those
00:37:41.220
around them. Scripture has many references of God teaching and affecting people, not directly,
00:37:46.180
but through those around them. That is, while I'd also take away the pain from children who suffer
00:37:52.840
it, it may be an effective way for growing the compassion and empathy of others. I don't think
00:37:58.020
this covers the entirety of the issue, but maybe a component worth inclusion. Yeah, I think it is. I
00:38:02.300
think you're right in your final sentence there that it doesn't cover the entirety of the issue,
00:38:06.500
as you admit. It is a component worth inclusion, worth discussion. And I do think that pain and
00:38:13.060
suffering, in many circumstances, does provide an opportunity for growth and maturity. Absolutely.
00:38:23.800
And that's why when I talked about last week about how if I had a button I could push that would take
00:38:28.080
pain and suffering away from my children, I would push it. I was talking about the severe,
00:38:32.860
sort of debilitating, horrifying kinds of pain and suffering. But the average everyday suffering that
00:38:42.100
a kid goes through, like, I got to clean my room and I don't want to, which is a source of immense
00:38:48.700
suffering for my kids. Would I take that away? No, I don't. Because I do think that's growth
00:38:54.160
opportunity. And as we get older as adults, then even more severe forms of suffering can be
00:39:00.420
for growth. No pain, no gain, as the cliche goes. And like many cliches, there's a lot of truth in
00:39:07.500
it. But as you mentioned, there are, I don't think that applies to all pain and suffering. I think there
00:39:15.140
is. And it's important for us to note that. And that's why I keep going back to this. And I'm harping
00:39:20.640
on this fact that we have to, as human beings, as Christians and as human beings, we have to show
00:39:29.180
that we understand, that we have a real understanding of pain and suffering and real pain,
00:39:37.420
even if we've never experienced it. I think we don't want to make the mistake of coming across
00:39:45.040
like we have learned about pain and suffering from Christian movies. And one of my problems
00:39:50.820
with Christian movies, as I've talked about in the past, is that everything is way too neat
00:39:55.080
and tidy and there's a happy ending and everything works out. And, you know, everyone in the end is
00:40:01.220
smiling and attractive and everything. And it's all just way too perfect. And even if someone goes
00:40:07.120
through something really difficult, in the end, they learn from it and they're stronger and blah,
00:40:10.760
blah, blah, blah. That's not the way it works in the real world. It's just not.
00:40:17.440
So even leaving, the idea that God would give cancer to a three-year-old as a learning opportunity
00:40:25.320
for his parents, that I just find, I just reject that. I absolutely reject it. That's, no. I think,
00:40:35.480
again, there's pain and suffering that we are given as a learning opportunity, yes, but not that.
00:40:39.600
No. I don't think that when those parents get to the afterlife, I don't think they're going to
00:40:45.440
be told by God, well, I hope you learned something from that cancer to your child.
00:40:51.080
No, I don't. I think that looking at it like that is to really, really severely diminish
00:40:58.260
the severity of what it means for a child to be going through something like that.
00:41:03.500
And the idea that it's just a learning opportunity, no, no, no, no.
00:41:10.340
And I reject that for two reasons. Number one, that's just completely unfair to the child.
00:41:17.360
That makes God come off as totally capricious and malevolent even, that he would give cancer
00:41:25.320
to a child just to teach a lesson to the parents. No. Again, I keep saying no, but that's, I don't,
00:41:33.060
I don't accept that particular explanation because of how it makes God seem.
00:41:42.160
And in a way also, you're putting, you put guilt on the parents. Like now the parents have to think,
00:41:47.500
what? Oh, well, I must have to learn something. It's my fault that my kid has cancer because
00:41:51.100
apparently God needs to teach me something I didn't know before. So I reject it for those
00:41:55.720
reasons. And also a third reason that, and this is the part that I think a lot of the Christian
00:42:00.660
movies and everything miss, that suffering, pain and suffering, we say no pain, no gain, but that's
00:42:08.880
not always true. And I think with the worst kinds of suffering, people can come out of those
00:42:15.860
experiences and just be total shells of themselves. It's not true that every time someone goes through
00:42:22.440
something difficult, they come out and they're stronger and they're better. I think there are
00:42:25.880
some forms of pain and suffering where you just, you're, you're, you're just ruined by it.
00:42:31.820
You come out and you are ruined and you are a shell of yourself. I've seen this. Now I myself am
00:42:38.140
blessed enough that so far in my life, in my, you know, with, when it comes to my closest family
00:42:43.780
members and friends, I have not gone through the worst forms of suffering yet at this point in my
00:42:50.340
life. Um, thank God. But I have, like many of us, I've seen it. So I've been one step removed from it,
00:42:59.980
which has given me a vantage point that a lot of us have, where I know people and I've been close to
00:43:06.040
people who have gone through pretty much the worst things you can possibly imagine. And I've seen what
00:43:14.240
it's done to them and they are not stronger because of it. I wouldn't say that to them, but, but they are,
00:43:20.360
they are traumatized. They are ruined. They are, you know, ruins may be the wrong word. I don't want to say
00:43:27.520
ruined. It's just, they are in some ways weakened by it. So that's, that's, that's the issue. And,
00:43:38.780
you know, and, and, and that, that, that adds another, uh, layer to, to the problem of suffering
00:43:43.960
that, that, uh, you know, on top of that, there are many people who have, uh, who've lost their faith
00:43:48.780
in God because of things like children getting cancer, whether it's their own or, or just the fact
00:43:53.880
that children do. Um, so there are the, you know, maybe some people come out and they have a stronger
00:44:02.000
faith at the end of it, but I think a lot of people don't. And the thing is, it's hard to blame them
00:44:06.460
for not having a stronger faith at the end of it and not being strong. I can tell you this, if
00:44:10.760
something like that happened to me, I talked last week about Joe Biden and, and, you know, even though
00:44:15.040
I don't like him as a politician, the things that he's been through, he lost his, uh, lost his wife and
00:44:19.520
child in a car accident, lost his, his son years later to, to cancer. I mean, if I lost my wife
00:44:26.260
and child in a car accident, uh, I would not be stronger because of it. I know that right now
00:44:32.040
about myself. I would be ruined. I would be a shell of myself. And could you really blame me?
00:44:41.040
Right? What does that come from? Because I love my family and they, because they're gone. And so I'm
00:44:45.960
just utterly devastated by it. Uh, so what do we say about those people? What they failed the test?
00:44:54.420
God gave them a test and they failed it. Are they gonna be punished for that? What happens then?
00:45:01.600
So I just, I, I don't look at it that way, I guess. Um, I guess, so when we talk about the,
00:45:06.320
and this is my point I keep going back to, when we talk about the problem of suffering,
00:45:08.920
I don't think we can talk about it in blanket terms. There's, there's some kinds of suffering
00:45:16.680
that can be explained a certain kind of way. And the explanation you give, I think that applies to
00:45:21.480
probably, you know, 70% of the suffering that happens in the world. I don't know. It's a totally
00:45:25.840
made up percentage, but that's an explanation that works very well for a lot of the kinds of
00:45:33.360
suffering that people go through. It works very well for almost all of the suffering that I've been
00:45:37.240
through in my life because I haven't, I haven't been to that really severe level yet, but it does.
00:45:43.380
But for that other, for that next level of suffering, I think we need a different explanation.
00:45:47.620
And that's where for the third time I have to conclude that I think, uh, we just don't have the
00:45:52.640
explanation and every explanation offered. And I've read a lot of explanations in my emails. I
00:45:57.440
appreciate all the emails, but I think all the explanations I've read just, they, they just don't
00:46:02.400
cut it. They don't get to it. Um, there's a disconnect. And, uh, and so I think we have to,
00:46:11.640
in the end, I think we, we still have to just be okay with that, with the not knowing.
00:46:19.540
Um, all right, we'll do one more. This is from Marie says, hello, Supreme bearded being dictator
00:46:26.060
with the gimpy leg. Well, it's not so gimpy anymore. Thank you very much. You've always struck me as a good
00:46:31.540
and involved dad. So I have to ask if you have any funny stories slash suggestions for me when I
00:46:36.400
begin my first, uh, first begin potty training, my two-year-old daughter, I'm a little intimidated
00:46:40.960
by this monster of a project I'm about to take on yet. This thing needs to be done. I'd like to tip
00:46:45.880
a tip or two. Your show is great. Your insights bring a lot of value. Well, I just got through
00:46:50.820
saying I, I, um, considered abandoning my child in a restroom because I didn't want to have to crawl
00:46:57.040
through P. So I don't know how good, so maybe I'm not the right person to be giving, to be giving
00:47:01.300
advice. Uh, no, I would, the only advice I would give on potty training, Marie is, uh,
00:47:12.040
to work it out. You know, this is something that you have to work out yourself. Uh, this is,
00:47:23.420
this prayer, I guess is, is what I would say. Lots of prayer and lots of hand sanitizer. What I'm
00:47:31.300
trying to say is that potty training in my, in my experience, potty training is awful. I don't mean
00:47:35.620
to scare you, but it really is disgusting. You think changing a poopy diaper is bad. I, I think
00:47:41.480
that dealing with a, with a potty training child is five times worse. It's five times more gross.
00:47:47.100
And, um, especially if you're using, okay, here's one solid piece of advice. I'll give you one.
00:47:55.220
Don't use, you know, those, the little, uh, child potty things that they, you know, which are basically
00:48:02.400
just like the chain. They're basically chamber pots. They're glorified chamber pots, um, that,
00:48:07.160
that people will use. And don't use that because I'm telling you something, if, if, if you, if you're,
00:48:11.540
if you're training your kid on that and he, you know, does his business and that, then you have to
00:48:15.600
take that disgusting pot of poop and transfer it into the toilet. And then you have to wipe him
00:48:23.720
and it's just, so definitely train them right away on the big boy toilet. And then all you have to do
00:48:30.160
when they're finished is, ah, mommy, I'm done. Then you got to go in and, you know, hold your nose,
00:48:36.160
flush the toilet, do the wipe flush again. That's what I would say. It is definitely disgusting and
00:48:42.680
horrific. And I'm sorry that you're about to experience this, but we have a, we have a,
00:48:47.220
we're, we're about, we're, we're there as well. Our kid, our, our son is two and a half. And so
00:48:50.720
we're gonna have to go through this again. Um, I'm thinking maybe just keep him in diapers until
00:48:55.460
he's, you know, just keep him in diapers indefinitely until he just figures it out on his
00:48:59.720
own. What I would say is maybe the system should be, they don't get out of diapers until they're old
00:49:07.260
enough to wipe themselves. I think that should be the system. That that's my thought, but my wife
00:49:12.540
never, never went for that. All right. We're going to leave it there. Thanks everybody for watching.
00:49:20.440
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