The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 333 - The Real Kavanaugh Bombshell

00:00:00.580 Well, the story just gets more and more embarrassing for the media as we continue to do this Kavanaugh thing for a second time,

00:00:07.740 ringing in the anniversary of the Kavanaugh hearing by rehashing all of it.

00:00:13.540 And so it's appropriate, I suppose, that the media is embarrassing itself, humiliating itself yet again,

00:00:18.680 because that's what it did the first time, and so now it's going to become a tradition annually.

00:00:22.640 This is what they do.

00:00:23.460 We talked yesterday about this debunked claim in the New York Times about another alleged sexual assault that happened 30 years ago,

00:00:30.860 though, as I said yesterday, even if this thing actually happened, which it didn't, but even if it did, it wouldn't be sexual assault.

00:00:37.080 Even if it happened, it wouldn't matter.

00:00:41.440 If someone somehow forced Kavanaugh's penis into a woman's hand at a party, as the story goes,

00:00:50.540 that would, if anything, be sexual assault by the person who did the forcing, and Kavanaugh would be one of the victims of it.

00:01:00.860 But however that would work, logistically, I have no idea.

00:01:04.400 I can't even figure out what the accusation is supposed to be.

00:01:07.740 But then it turns out that the woman, the alleged victim, didn't want to be interviewed about the incident

00:01:12.140 and said she didn't remember it.

00:01:14.460 She had no recollection of it.

00:01:15.500 And yet the Times left that detail out of its report, had to go back and add in the correction.

00:01:21.560 Now the authors of the piece are trying to explain why that detail was left out,

00:01:29.380 and they've thrown their editors completely under the bus, which is kind of hilarious.

00:01:34.920 Watch this.

00:01:35.560 ...draft of the article, did it include those words that have since been added to the article?

00:01:40.240 It did.

00:01:40.820 It did.

00:01:41.240 So somewhere in the editing process, those words were trapped.

00:01:44.460 Yeah, I mean, I think what happened actually was that, you know, we had her name,

00:01:48.700 and, you know, the Times doesn't usually include the name of the victim.

00:01:51.600 And so I think in this case, the editors felt like maybe it was probably better to remove it.

00:01:56.060 And in removing her name, they removed the other reference to the fact that she didn't remember it.

00:02:00.900 Okay, so the way, in your draft for the Times, you used basically the exact words that are in the book

00:02:07.060 that I deliberately left off the name, because that passage begins with the name.

00:02:11.820 Yes.

00:02:12.120 And so in their removal of the name, they ended up removing what follows it.

00:02:16.440 Yes, and I mean, so I think it was just sort of an editing, you know,

00:02:18.880 done in the haste in the editing process, as you know, for closing the section.

00:02:22.480 Were you involved in the decision to amend this and do the correction on the addition online to the piece?

00:02:28.500 We discussed it.

00:02:29.700 Yeah, I mean, we think we felt like there was so much heat.

00:02:32.420 You know, there's so much, everyone has been kind of seizing on various aspects of this,

00:02:35.900 that we certainly didn't want this to be an issue anymore.

00:02:37.900 And we certainly never intended to mislead in any way.

00:02:40.600 We wanted to give as full a story as possible.

00:02:42.900 Something tells me these two probably aren't going to be getting, you know,

00:02:46.040 any more jobs writing pieces for newspapers anytime soon,

00:02:50.540 because throwing your editor under the bus is not ideal.

00:02:56.360 But are they right?

00:02:57.740 You know, are the editors to blame?

00:03:00.220 Well, yeah, the editors are partly to blame, but so are they.

00:03:04.180 Because here's the thing, they didn't speak up when the article was published without that information.

00:03:12.380 They didn't speak up and say, hey, wait a second, something was left out here.

00:03:15.440 This is an important detail.

00:03:17.280 No, they said nothing.

00:03:20.220 They only said something after other people discovered the omission and brought it up.

00:03:24.780 That's when they talked about it.

00:03:27.000 So I wish that these people would just be honest.

00:03:29.820 And I know that's too much to ask, but I'd almost respect it if they came out and said,

00:03:35.520 hey, listen, we hate Kavanaugh because he's pro-life,

00:03:38.660 and we're just doing what we need to do to get rid of him.

00:03:42.000 That's what this is about.

00:03:42.820 So that's why we omitted it, because obviously it's not going to help our case,

00:03:45.700 and that's what we care about.

00:03:46.920 I would almost respect that.

00:03:48.540 I would almost respect the honesty if they just said that.

00:03:51.900 And here's the irony here, by the way.

00:03:54.760 The left is going through all this trouble

00:03:56.760 to smear Kavanaugh because they're afraid that he's going to repeal Roe v. Wade.

00:04:02.360 And that, of course, is what this is all about.

00:04:05.940 But meanwhile, Kavanaugh almost certainly would not vote to repeal Roe v. Wade.

00:04:14.120 So all of their hysterical fears are completely misplaced.

00:04:20.860 You know, there's a reason why most pro-lifers, if you had paid attention when Kavanaugh was announced,

00:04:27.800 most pro-lifers were not jumping for joy the way they would have been if, for example,

00:04:34.220 Amy Coney Barrett was put up for the spot. 0.84

00:04:38.740 But with Kavanaugh, most pro-lifers were like, eh, that was our reaction.

00:04:44.580 Now, we started rallying behind Kavanaugh when all these fake rape accusations came out

00:04:51.680 and they were trying to destroy his life and destroy his family.

00:04:53.820 And then, of course, we're going to rally behind him

00:04:55.420 because this is just to do that to any person is wrong.

00:05:01.000 But no, there is actually little evidence that Kavanaugh is pro-life, is a conservative pro-lifer.

00:05:07.620 For all we know, and this actually is my guess,

00:05:09.980 and this is why I wasn't too excited about the nomination,

00:05:12.280 my guess is that he's going to, when it comes to these kinds of issues,

00:05:15.460 he's going to be kind of like a Kennedy, basically liberal.

00:05:18.620 I would be, if I had to put all of my money on one outcome or the other,

00:05:27.360 and if there was a Roe v. Wade challenge before the Supreme Court,

00:05:29.740 I would definitely put my money on him not voting to repeal it.

00:05:35.060 But here's the double irony.

00:05:37.340 The double irony is, if there's any chance of Kavanaugh actually voting against Roe

00:05:45.540 and actually becoming a social conservative on the bench,

00:05:50.920 it would probably be because of how he's been treated by the left.

00:05:56.040 So they're doing all this because they're so afraid of how,

00:05:58.400 meanwhile, he's a moderate, probably kind of liberal guy.

00:06:00.780 But if that changes, it's going to be because of how he's being treated by them.

00:06:06.940 And their wager is that, well, they treat him this way,

00:06:12.740 and he's going to be too afraid when it comes down to it.

00:06:15.760 He's just going to do what they want because he'll be too afraid of provoking their wrath,

00:06:21.880 which maybe is how it would go.

00:06:23.800 I don't know.

00:06:24.720 But there's also a possibility, and this is what I would root for,

00:06:27.760 that he says, you know what, screw these people.

00:06:30.220 These people are evil.

00:06:34.000 Now, there is a real Kavanaugh-related bombshell,

00:06:37.000 one that shockingly was reported by CBS.

00:06:40.160 That's maybe the biggest bombshell of all.

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00:07:56.840 Okay.

00:07:57.940 Oh, I forgot to mention, one of the reporters, quote, unquote,

00:08:02.040 who authored the piece that is now being torn apart, and rightfully so,

00:08:07.240 is suggesting that the alleged victim doesn't remember what happened because she was drunk.

00:08:14.880 So talk about victim blaming or alleged victim blaming.

00:08:18.980 They've gone from smearing the alleged perpetrator to smearing the alleged victim.

00:08:23.720 Whatever they need to do.

00:08:27.080 Whatever needs to be said.

00:08:29.420 Now, I predicted yesterday that the narrative from the left,

00:08:35.620 given the fact that this alleged victim doesn't remember it,

00:08:39.040 the narrative is going to be, well, she suppressed the memory because it was so traumatizing.

00:08:43.020 She suppressed it.

00:08:44.120 It's a suppressed memory.

00:08:45.180 So actually, the fact that she doesn't remember it is proof that he did do it

00:08:49.220 because that's exactly what you would expect.

00:08:51.980 And in fact, I did have some people on Twitter tell me that.

00:08:55.440 That is an actual argument that was presented to me, that it's a suppressed memory.

00:09:01.420 But here's another way to go and say, wow, she was drunk anyway. 0.97

00:09:06.400 Because whatever these people need to do,

00:09:09.120 this is pure evil.

00:09:12.500 And they're not going to stop.

00:09:14.440 They just will not stop.

00:09:16.880 Speaking of evil, Leland Kaiser, friend of Christine Ford,

00:09:20.740 and one of the supposed witnesses at the supposed party where her alleged supposed rape occurred,

00:09:28.440 is revealing something interesting.

00:09:30.080 And when I say speaking of evil, I don't mean Leland Kaiser as the evil.

00:09:34.300 I mean what she's had to endure and what's happening apparently behind the scenes to this woman,

00:09:41.040 that's the evil part.

00:09:42.660 Shockingly, CBS has this report.

00:09:44.740 Watch this.

00:09:45.160 Kavanaugh was narrowly confirmed after a gut-wrenching day of testimony from him and Christine Blasey Ford,

00:09:54.260 who accused him of assaulting her at a high school party.

00:09:57.660 Speaking publicly for the first time to The Times reporters,

00:10:01.120 Ford's close friend Leland Kaiser, who Ford said was at the party,

00:10:05.100 said she didn't believe Ford's account and that it just didn't make any sense.

00:10:10.440 She also says she told the FBI that Ford's allies pressured her to say otherwise.

00:10:15.740 So she doesn't believe it.

00:10:17.840 She straight up just doesn't believe it.

00:10:19.900 And this is a friend of Christine Ford.

00:10:22.820 And this is someone who's a liberal Democrat.

00:10:24.940 So there's no political motive for this.

00:10:28.060 No financial or personal motive.

00:10:30.840 There couldn't be because this is a friend.

00:10:32.920 She's just alienated herself from her friend.

00:10:35.020 She's enduring all this abuse behind the scenes. 0.96

00:10:38.280 She doesn't gain anything from this.

00:10:40.440 Yet, this is what she's come out and said.

00:10:45.920 Now, someone said to me yesterday,

00:10:47.380 oh, well, the fact that you're saying that her not believing Christine Ford is this huge,

00:10:54.480 this significant thing, but if she came out and said she did believe Christine Ford,

00:10:58.440 you'd probably say it didn't matter.

00:11:00.300 Well, yeah, kind of.

00:11:03.140 Now, if she had come out and said, I saw it, I remember it, I'm a witness,

00:11:07.240 that would be significant.

00:11:08.060 But if she just said as a friend, yeah, I don't remember it, but I believe her,

00:11:12.760 which actually was what was originally reported.

00:11:15.960 Originally, what was reported is that Leland Kaiser, there was always this weird thing where

00:11:19.900 she didn't want to come out.

00:11:20.680 She didn't want to talk about it.

00:11:22.000 She said she didn't remember, but originally reported by, I think,

00:11:25.760 I think it was the Washington Post, I don't remember which, but it was originally reported

00:11:29.620 that Leland Kaiser said, I don't remember it, but yeah, I believe her.

00:11:35.760 But it was always weird that Kaiser was not more public about coming out in support of her friend.

00:11:42.580 Just like Christine Ford's family.

00:11:44.520 That was always a weird thing.

00:11:45.660 That her family didn't really come out publicly in support of her.

00:11:50.180 Always very strange.

00:11:52.020 Well, now we find out behind the scenes, Kaiser was being pressured.

00:11:56.840 And now she's saying, you know, in honesty, I don't believe her.

00:11:59.640 And yet, that to me is more significant than her saying she believes her.

00:12:05.860 Why is that?

00:12:06.480 Well, because she's a friend.

00:12:08.680 So she has a very obvious bias, a very obvious personal reason to say,

00:12:14.620 I believe her even if she doesn't.

00:12:16.520 She has no obvious reason to say she doesn't believe if she in fact does.

00:12:22.480 So the fact that she's going against her own interests, against her own friendships in order

00:12:27.140 to say that, that is very, very significant.

00:12:31.740 Just like the silence from Christine Ford's family not coming out publicly and being out there

00:12:37.940 and supporting in a really visible way, that is also significant.

00:12:42.580 So let's go back and recap here.

00:12:44.240 Christine Ford has no witnesses, no evidence, doesn't remember where it happened, 0.94

00:12:49.040 doesn't remember when it happened, doesn't remember what happened before or after.

00:12:54.060 Her own friend doesn't believe her.

00:12:55.400 Apparently her own family doesn't believe her.

00:12:57.900 There's just no reason at all, period, to take her seriously or to take any of this seriously.

00:13:03.080 So the people who are still going around and claiming that Kavanaugh's a rapist and so on,

00:13:08.680 these are disgusting lying hacks, all of them.

00:13:12.040 They know what they're doing.

00:13:14.400 They know exactly what they're doing.

00:13:16.060 And we talk about how this is backfiring on the left because it's only, in a lot of people's minds,

00:13:28.820 and you hear this from a lot of people, that they don't really like Trump.

00:13:34.060 They even dislike him strongly, but they're still going to vote for him because of this kind of thing,

00:13:38.660 because of Kavanaugh, because they've seen how the left acts.

00:13:41.320 And they realize they have to do whatever they can to stop the left from taking control.

00:13:45.780 You hear that a lot.

00:13:46.600 And so the thought is, well, this is backfiring on the left.

00:13:50.760 It's a really, on top of being morally wrong, it's a really bad strategic political move,

00:13:55.080 which I think is correct.

00:13:57.480 But if there isn't, but I think there is a strategy also on their side.

00:14:01.620 I'm not saying it's a good strategy, but there is a strategy.

00:14:03.520 I think part of the strategy is this is a warning shot.

00:14:08.480 This is a message to when Ruth Bader Ginsburg is no longer on the bench, her replacement.

00:14:17.320 This is a message to Ginsburg's replacement if that person is nominated by a Republican.

00:14:25.720 Like, this is a message, you know, if you're nominated, you probably want to decline

00:14:30.780 because you see what we're going to do to you.

00:14:34.640 I think that's part of the strategy here.

00:14:36.640 And that's why they keep going.

00:14:39.200 Because they're trying to say to the next potential conservative nominee or Republican nominee,

00:14:44.260 if you accept this, we are going to ruin your life and we are never, ever going to stop.

00:14:50.200 And it could be an effective strategy, as morally abominable as it is.

00:14:58.380 I mean, look, if it were me, if Trump came to me and said, we want to have you on the Supreme Court,

00:15:04.420 which is unlikely to happen, well, honestly, I'd probably take it.

00:15:09.720 I'd have to say yes.

00:15:10.520 But I think a lot of people, a lot of more normal people, would probably say it's not worth it.

00:15:17.460 I'm not going to have my whole life turned out.

00:15:18.720 I'm not going to have my family destroyed over this.

00:15:23.120 So that's the strategy.

00:15:24.260 Very, very evil.

00:15:25.500 Okay, well, speaking of evil, that's my second time I've used that transition.

00:15:31.340 That's really my transition from every, that's always my transition.

00:15:34.440 Speaking of evil, let's go to the next evil thing.

00:15:36.980 Yay.

00:15:37.220 Okay, well, the woke rage mob has found another scalp.

00:15:42.620 They've claimed another trophy.

00:15:46.480 Shane Gillis, Shane Gillis was hired by SNL.

00:15:50.760 He was supposed to be an SNL cast member.

00:15:53.420 But when it was announced, of course, people had to go digging to see if he'd ever said anything controversial.

00:16:04.440 Because this is what we do now.

00:16:07.220 Someone is in the news for a positive reason.

00:16:10.220 And so we go and we dig through their closet for skeletons.

00:16:12.840 And we say, let's go find a reason to hate this person.

00:16:16.340 Oh, this person is being, this person is being, is, you know, getting honored or something good is happening.

00:16:24.360 They're being promoted.

00:16:25.760 Something good is happening.

00:16:26.860 Let's go find a reason to hate this person.

00:16:29.120 And so that's what happened.

00:16:31.060 You know, everyone complains that the news only reports negative stuff.

00:16:34.640 And that's true most of the time.

00:16:36.560 But here's what happens when there's a positive news story.

00:16:38.660 If there's a positive news story, if someone makes it into the news for a positive reason, it's turned into something negative because we find a reason to hate that person.

00:16:45.880 So in this case, it turned out that Shane Gillis had in the past made offensive remarks about Asians on a, on a podcast, on a, on a comedy podcast with another comedian.

00:16:59.640 He used slurs about Asians and he made fun of their accents and he was talking about, uh, Chinatown and the city and, and all of that.

00:17:07.480 Um, uh, is it offensive?

00:17:10.120 Sure.

00:17:11.320 Is it funny?

00:17:12.700 Not really.

00:17:13.560 No, I watched a segment.

00:17:14.820 I didn't find it funny.

00:17:16.660 Uh, is it a joke though?

00:17:19.060 Yes, obviously he's a comedian on a comedy podcast doing a bit that that's what, that's what comedians do on podcasts.

00:17:28.120 It's a joke, bad joke, fine, but still a joke, but that doesn't matter to the rage mob.

00:17:38.000 It never does.

00:17:38.840 They demanded that Gillis get fired.

00:17:40.980 And, uh, now he has been SNL cave predictably as always.

00:17:45.860 Um, this doesn't need to be a conversation about whether, about whether, you know, the, the, the C word for Asians is offensive or whatever.

00:17:55.940 I think, yeah, it's offensive.

00:17:58.120 I don't think you should go around saying that, but, but, but, but here's the point.

00:18:04.680 So what?

00:18:06.520 I mean, really?

00:18:07.580 So what?

00:18:09.680 Yes.

00:18:10.520 If we could establish, let's say, let's just say we establish, he said that's offensive.

00:18:14.960 He said something offensive.

00:18:16.020 Okay.

00:18:16.540 He did.

00:18:17.200 Right.

00:18:17.720 Okay.

00:18:17.960 He said something offensive.

00:18:19.180 Fine.

00:18:19.500 So what?

00:18:22.080 Everybody in the world, everybody, there's 7 billion people in the world, everybody in the world, all 7 billion.

00:18:27.820 If they have the power of speech, they have all said offensive things.

00:18:32.060 Every single one.

00:18:33.000 You have.

00:18:34.040 Whoever you are watching this right now, you have said so many offensive things and you know you have.

00:18:38.780 Every single one of you.

00:18:39.820 All of you.

00:18:40.500 Me included.

00:18:41.320 Me also.

00:18:43.100 Now, that, that doesn't mean, and you could say, oh, I've never used that word though.

00:18:47.220 Okay, maybe you never have.

00:18:48.240 I'm not saying everyone's used that word or I'm not even saying everyone's used racial slurs.

00:18:52.440 Maybe, maybe you've never said offensive things in that vein.

00:18:55.560 Maybe that is not a brand of offensive thing.

00:18:57.680 Maybe that's not a genre of offensive remark that you have ever engaged in.

00:19:02.500 I'm perfectly willing to believe that.

00:19:04.620 But on whatever topic, in whatever way, you have said very offensive things.

00:19:10.500 You have said things that you wouldn't want plastered all over the headlines.

00:19:15.760 You have said things that you wouldn't want people digging for and, and, and, and putting out there the moment that you're promoted or given a new job or whatever.

00:19:27.360 You, you, you definitely, definitely, definitely have.

00:19:32.140 Um, and how do I know that?

00:19:34.620 Well, because you're a person.

00:19:38.080 Okay, you're a human being.

00:19:39.440 And that's just, that's a thing people do.

00:19:41.720 People say a lot of stuff in a given day.

00:19:43.760 Right?

00:19:46.020 If, if, if, if you're a human being and you can speak, you say a lot of things in a day, you say even more things in a month, even more than that in a year.

00:19:54.120 And a certain percentage of that stuff is going to be offensive.

00:19:58.720 That's just the way it goes.

00:20:00.000 That's statistics.

00:20:02.520 So it doesn't make sense.

00:20:03.900 When you think about it, it really doesn't make sense.

00:20:05.820 When we find out that someone said something offensive for us to go, what?

00:20:10.260 He said something offensive.

00:20:12.520 What?

00:20:13.100 How is this possible?

00:20:14.580 This is outrageous.

00:20:16.940 Of course he did.

00:20:18.400 I mean, it's, of course he did.

00:20:20.320 It was statistically certain that he has said offensive stuff.

00:20:23.500 And, and if you're someone, now, if, if you're not in the public eye at all, if you're not in media, if you're not a comedian, if you're not, you know, whatever, then, then probably the offensive things that you've said, for the most part, have not been on camera.

00:20:38.080 But if you're someone who does a lot of talking on camera, on microphones and podcasts, doing interviews, doing this and that and that, now you're on stage, you're doing this, there's just a lot of, there's a huge volume of material of you talking off and off the cuff, then it's just, it is statistically certain that some of that is going to be offensive.

00:20:58.580 And again, if you don't have video of you saying offensive things floating around out there, that's only because you're not on video that often.

00:21:10.920 So it just doesn't make sense.

00:21:12.880 I think the proper reaction with this kind of thing is for us to say, okay, yeah, well, okay, we all say offensive things.

00:21:20.180 That's his offensive thing that he said.

00:21:22.080 It's out there.

00:21:23.080 You know, he shouldn't have said it.

00:21:24.280 He did.

00:21:25.700 Why can't that just be the reaction?

00:21:27.420 He shouldn't have said it.

00:21:28.860 He did, though.

00:21:29.980 It's that, you know, we all say things we shouldn't say.

00:21:32.720 That's, that, here's an example.

00:21:34.880 Here is example number 552 trillion of people saying things they shouldn't say.

00:21:44.580 I mean, he came out and he said, now, if his response to this was for him to come out and say, oh, no, you know what?

00:21:52.980 I really hate Asians. 1.00

00:21:54.020 I despise them and, you know, I stand by it.

00:21:58.660 If he had done that, then, yeah, SNL wouldn't have, I couldn't even quibble with SNL firing him.

00:22:06.500 But that's not what he said.

00:22:08.320 He came out and said, look, it was a joke.

00:22:09.820 It was a bad joke.

00:22:11.120 You know, that's what it was.

00:22:12.420 It's just a bad joke.

00:22:14.460 Why isn't that enough?

00:22:16.480 Why isn't that enough?

00:22:18.280 He acknowledged it.

00:22:21.020 He said it was a bad joke.

00:22:22.460 Yeah, you got me.

00:22:23.880 You got me.

00:22:24.940 That was a thing.

00:22:26.100 Shouldn't have said it.

00:22:26.860 I did.

00:22:30.000 Why can't we just move on from that?

00:22:31.360 I mean, these are all rhetorical questions.

00:22:33.260 I get it.

00:22:33.700 I know, I know why.

00:22:34.780 And I also know, as I have myself pointed out so many times, that this is all performative.

00:22:46.800 Nobody is really outraged.

00:22:49.380 Nobody really cares.

00:22:50.520 Because what I'm saying right now, everybody knows this.

00:22:55.100 Right?

00:22:55.260 So everyone, people that act offended by an offensive comment, they all know about themselves.

00:23:02.720 Oh, man, I've said worse stuff than that about this or that, you know.

00:23:07.140 They all know that.

00:23:10.240 But they pretend to be what?

00:23:11.920 I never.

00:23:13.300 I never.

00:23:14.200 This is it.

00:23:15.060 It's just they're pretending.

00:23:16.720 It's performance.

00:23:19.780 Why do we pretend?

00:23:22.320 I don't know.

00:23:23.120 But power, control, envy.

00:23:30.600 I think that's part of it.

00:23:32.900 Just because we're bored.

00:23:36.420 It's just something to do.

00:23:38.760 A lot of it is recreational.

00:23:40.480 It is.

00:23:41.860 Back in the Roman days, you could go to the Colosseum and you could watch someone get torn apart by the lions.

00:23:48.160 And you could get your kicks that way.

00:23:50.020 Well, we don't have that anymore.

00:23:51.180 I have no doubt that if we had something like that, it would be enormously popular.

00:23:54.800 But we don't have that anymore.

00:23:56.000 So instead, we have this.

00:23:58.260 It's just, it's bloodlust.

00:24:01.800 It's enjoying the watching someone get torn apart.

00:24:05.860 If not physically, then at least metaphorically.

00:24:08.860 We can settle for that.

00:24:10.200 This, as always, this is where the Bible, once again, has something to say about it.

00:24:24.520 And you go to the famous story, he without sin cast the first stone.

00:24:29.140 Because really, at the end of the day, you know, it's, and the point of that story, let he without sin cast the first stone.

00:24:39.900 But Jesus wasn't saying, we cannot objectively make judgments about what's right or wrong.

00:24:49.480 He wasn't saying, this woman was caught in adultery.

00:24:51.920 Jesus wasn't saying, despite how it's commonly translated or interpreted these days, he wasn't saying, oh, no, you know what, actually, adultery is okay.

00:25:01.640 And he wasn't saying, the people that were disgusted by adultery and opposed it or whatever, he wasn't saying they were wrong for that.

00:25:09.800 Yeah, adultery is wrong. 1.00

00:25:10.960 That's why he said, go and sin no more to the woman. 0.80

00:25:12.920 It's wrong.

00:25:14.440 But he's also saying, you're not really in a place to literally throw a stone at this woman.

00:25:19.780 Because look at yourself.

00:25:22.900 Yeah, maybe you've never committed adultery.

00:25:24.800 Maybe that's not, you know, with your, maybe that's not a type of sin that you've committed.

00:25:31.640 But you've done things, too.

00:25:33.140 You've done really bad things.

00:25:34.500 So adultery is a really bad thing.

00:25:35.760 You have certainly done really bad things in your life.

00:25:38.580 Maybe not that, but something else.

00:25:42.300 And so you're just not, you're not the guy.

00:25:44.380 If there's anyone around here who can throw a stone, it's not you.

00:25:49.640 I think that applies very much in these, in these situations.

00:25:53.740 Let he who has never made an offensive comment in their life, not a single one, let he be the one to cast the stone.

00:26:01.640 All right.

00:26:03.720 One more thing.

00:26:07.680 Sean Spicer.

00:26:10.400 Speaking of evil.

00:26:11.400 No, you may, you may remember him.

00:26:13.560 This isn't so much evil as just, just, just sad.

00:26:17.560 This is sad.

00:26:18.260 So Sean Spicer was a former White House press secretary.

00:26:23.260 And as you may recall, Trump's press secretary.

00:26:27.520 And he was, he's on Dancing with the Stars now for some reason.

00:26:31.700 And he debuted his, he did his debut dance last night.

00:26:36.200 I admit I don't watch the show, but I did see this clip online.

00:26:41.260 And I just have to share it with you.

00:26:44.640 Watch this.

00:26:49.060 Color to the world.

00:26:49.980 White House press secretary.

00:26:50.840 Every boy and every girl.

00:26:51.940 White House press secretary.

00:26:52.980 When you're feeling sad and low.

00:26:56.840 We will take you where you gotta go.

00:27:00.800 Smiling, dancing, everything's free.

00:27:04.780 All you need is positivity.

00:27:08.220 Color to the world.

00:27:09.380 White House press secretary.

00:27:09.960 Every boy and every girl.

00:27:11.240 White House press secretary.

00:27:11.960 People love the world.

00:27:12.960 White House press secretary.

00:27:13.960 Ah.

00:27:14.960 Ah.

00:27:15.960 Sorry.

00:27:16.460 I'm having a good time.

00:27:17.960 She's alive.

00:27:18.960 You know the chickpea fight.

00:27:19.960 She's a good boy.

00:27:20.960 All right.

00:27:22.960 Oh.

00:27:23.960 Sorry.

00:27:24.960 I'm having a good time.

00:27:25.960 I'm having a good time.

00:27:26.960 She's alive.

00:27:27.960 You know the chickpea fight.

00:27:28.960 Hey.

00:27:29.960 Ha.

00:27:30.960 Ha.

00:27:31.960 Ha.

00:27:32.960 Ha.

00:27:33.960 Ha.

00:27:34.960 Ha.

00:27:35.960 Ha.

00:27:36.960 Ha.

00:27:37.960 Ha.

00:27:38.960 Ha.

00:27:39.960 Ha.

00:27:40.960 Ha.

00:27:42.960 Ha.

00:27:43.960 Ha.

00:27:44.960 Ha.

00:27:45.960 Hold tight.

00:27:46.960 Now, in fairness, in fairness, I do have that exact shirt.

00:27:54.960 I must admit. For those listening on iTunes, Spicer is wearing a fluffy, frilly, neon shirt

00:28:02.440 while doing the salsa. I think that's supposed to be the salsa. I'm not really sure. And he's

00:28:08.860 dancing to the Spice Girls. So I don't know what his dance moves look like. Well, first of all,

00:28:16.340 they look like I would look if I was trying to do the salsa, which is why I would never do it,

00:28:20.420 especially not on camera. But really, he looks like a Little League baseball coach having a

00:28:26.740 seizure in a pirate shirt. That's kind of what his salsa looks like. And I don't get it. But Mike

00:28:35.140 Huckabee, Mike Huckabee, who, thank God, has not gone on the show yet. He wrote on Twitter in support

00:28:40.600 of Sean Spicer. And he said, want to create an emotional meltdown in Hollywood? Hollywood instead

00:28:47.600 of Hollywood. Clever stuff. Vote for Sean Spicer to win Dancing with the Stars tonight and every

00:28:52.960 night that he's on. Sean Spicer is a good guy and a brave sport to go on Dancing with the Stars.

00:28:56.700 Let's show him some love. And then Spicer responded, thank you, Mike Huckabee. Clearly, the judges

00:29:01.800 aren't going to be with me. Let's send a message to Hollywood that those of us who stand for Christ

00:29:06.620 won't be discounted. May God bless you. He really tried to turn this into a Jesus thing.

00:29:14.540 He's really claiming that he's standing with Christ by dancing to the Spice Girls in a frilly

00:29:23.120 neon shirt. See, me, I don't get it. I don't quite get the connection. When I see that, when I look at

00:29:34.740 that clip, I see a guy who's desperate for attention and still wants to be famous and will do literally

00:29:41.540 anything for it, I don't really see the gospel being spread quite. I don't see where that comes

00:29:48.280 in. And this is a thing that we talk about victim culture and how victimhood has been turned into a

00:29:58.300 currency these days and everybody wants to be a victim. And we put that on the left most of the time

00:30:04.220 and for good reason. But it's not just the left that does this. And this is something that you see

00:30:08.720 among conservative Christians sometimes. I have to admit, there is a tendency sometimes

00:30:14.240 where Sean Spicer now is turning himself into a victim, where the judges didn't like his dance

00:30:20.040 moves and it's because he's a Christian. No, it's because you suck at dancing, Sean, which, look, 0.99

00:30:25.620 I do too. So I'm not, but that's why, again, I don't, I'm not going to do it in front of judges.

00:30:29.180 I'm not going to do it in front of anybody. Um, in fact, I, I, you know, we're going to a wedding

00:30:36.780 this weekend and this will be the second wedding that I've attended while, um, after my Achilles

00:30:41.960 injury. And in both cases, these are times where I actually thank God that I have an Achilles injury,

00:30:48.960 even though now I'm kind of overcoming it, but I still have it. But I thank God for it because it's

00:30:54.920 my excuse. I don't have to dance. Um, I can just sit there, which is what I would do anyway,

00:31:00.620 in fairness, but, and now I have a reason. And I can say, I was at the last first wedding I went

00:31:05.680 to was, I was still had the cast on and everything. And people are dancing and people are coming up to

00:31:10.300 me. And I was saying, Oh man, I'd love to be out there. I'd love to be out there dancing.

00:31:16.560 I tell you, I live to dance, but you know, I just can't, I just can't. It's, it's really,

00:31:21.560 at least it's tough for me to sit here and not be able to dance anyway. Um, so that, that's my

00:31:28.720 theory. My theory for Sean is that, is that they, they, they didn't like the dancing because it's

00:31:32.520 bad. Um, not because they're against Christ. And so this victimhood thing, now there are,

00:31:41.460 there are examples of conservative Christians in this country being victimized. There are many

00:31:44.920 more examples across the world of Christians actually being victimized and martyred in this

00:31:49.440 country. It does happen. Uh, talk to, talk to, to, uh, uh, masterpiece cake shop, Jack Phillips,

00:31:54.460 and he'll tell you about that. But there are also examples of, of, of, of the victimhood mentality

00:32:00.440 among Christians where, you know, so someone is insulted or, or, or whatever. And they try to turn 0.72

00:32:07.100 it into, and I, I don't, I don't think we should do that. I think it's, it's almost blasphemous.

00:32:12.600 Really? That's almost blasphemy. Don't bring that spectacle there. Okay. If you want to do that,

00:32:19.800 do it, but don't bring Jesus into that. He didn't have anything to do with that. Don't blame him.

00:32:26.260 Why do people, I really don't, I don't understand, you know, this thing that, that people do where

00:32:32.260 they, when you've got F list celebrities who someone who's famous, you know, for being a white

00:32:40.080 house press secretary, former white house president, and then they, and then they, they go and they

00:32:43.720 embarrass themselves on TV intentionally just to keep the attention on them. I don't understand it.

00:32:51.600 How are you that desperate for attention that you'll even take negative attention?

00:32:56.640 That I don't get. If somebody came to me and said, Hey, would you love to come on? Would you like

00:33:03.220 to come on this show here and be humiliated in front of everybody? I would have to say, not really. No,

00:33:08.940 thanks for the offer. Are you sure? Because millions of people are going to be watching. You could be

00:33:12.500 really, really embarrassed. Yeah, no, no, thanks. I don't think so. I humiliate myself all the time as

00:33:19.440 it is. And sometimes on camera, as anyone who watches this show can attest, I don't need help.

00:33:23.120 All right. Uh, let's go to emails. Matt wall show at gmail.com. Matt wall show at gmail.com.

00:33:31.100 Although all that being said, I do, the other part of me does have some kind of respect for people who

00:33:38.360 are very bad dancers like me and yet are willing to do it in front of other people.

00:33:44.460 I do have some respect for that. I have to say, um, all right, let's go to emails. Uh, again,

00:33:51.080 matt wall show at gmail.com. This is from Rebecca says, Matt, I was wondering if you could tell us

00:33:56.780 your thoughts on the conversation among Christians following the recent suicide of the very successful 1.00

00:34:00.740 young pastor, Jared Wilson. It's very hard for some of us to understand why someone in his position

00:34:05.580 would want to end their own life. Yes. Depression most often is never about circumstances, but when

00:34:11.080 you're young, have a beautiful wife, two healthy young kids and success above the ordinary, it's really

00:34:16.980 baffling. Now, even some Christians are saying that he didn't choose to commit suicide, but that he

00:34:21.620 lost his battle and died by suicide. Um, many in quotes, died by suicide. Many are also saying that

00:34:28.820 because he professed to believe in Jesus, that he's also, um, that he's automatically in heaven that,

00:34:35.200 and that he's quote, finally free. If that were the consequence of suicide, shouldn't we all do it

00:34:39.880 then? I'm not saying that he is or isn't in heaven, but how can we know for sure? And why would we

00:34:43.860 even assume? To not murder is one of the 10 commandments and murder of the self is self

00:34:48.660 murder. As a Catholic, I believe and hope he is in purgatory, but irregardless, I don't think

00:34:52.980 Christians should ever advertise to the world that suicide is a solution. Every single day, 1.00

00:34:57.980 it seems like more and more Christians are not standing on the foundation of truth, too scared 0.99

00:35:01.080 to offend anyone. I'd really like to know what you think of all this. Thanks. Um, yeah, Rebecca,

00:35:06.900 I've gotten a few emails about this, and so I wanted to address it. This is an awful

00:35:13.620 situation, obviously. I didn't know Jared personally at all. Um, we had, we debated once on a podcast

00:35:19.920 years ago, and that was pretty much the extent of our interaction. I think we interacted maybe on

00:35:24.660 Twitter a few times, but by all accounts, uh, a decent guy, a good guy, and this is just terrible.

00:35:34.260 It's, I can't, it's the kind of thing when you hear stories like this, it kind of takes your breath

00:35:39.660 away. Um, when you think about, especially the, the family, uh, wife and two kids and, and how

00:35:48.460 they're, it puts me at a loss for words when I think about where you go as a spouse after something

00:35:58.360 like this as a child. Um, it's just terribly tragic. So you raise two points, which I think

00:36:07.640 are important and, um, which also troubled me greatly. And this is a delicate subject and people

00:36:17.320 get upset when you start talking about these things and they say, well, you shouldn't be talking

00:36:21.000 about them or you should talk about it now. I was like, well, when are we going to talk about it?

00:36:24.140 Because you gotta, we, we need to talk about it. And the two points you raise, I think are, are good.

00:36:31.340 Um, important. So one is this idea that we should completely remove the choice, the willfulness

00:36:38.000 from suicide and talk about it, talk about it as if someone who quote dies by suicide might as well

00:36:45.160 died of cancer. And, and, and this is something now where, where you hear this, that, that every time

00:36:49.900 there's a suicide of a, of a, of a prominent person you hear from the media and social media, people

00:36:56.100 say, no, don't say he committed suicide, say died by suicide to make it into a passive and to sound

00:37:01.820 like something that happened to him rather than something that he did. Um, and I'll tell you why

00:37:07.140 that concerns me. I think probably for the same reason it concerns you, Rebecca, because it makes

00:37:11.500 the person, here's what I think about. It makes the person who is depressed, who feels hopeless,

00:37:18.480 whoever that might be. And there are a lot of people in that boat right now, someone in that boat.

00:37:25.780 I don't see how it doesn't make them feel powerless. I mean, think about what you're saying

00:37:31.000 to a potentially suicidal person. You're saying you have no choice. You have no power to prevent

00:37:36.020 this from happening. You have cancer essentially. And, and, and there's nothing you can do. Suicide

00:37:41.720 might just happen to you. Like getting hit by a car might just happen. You can't stop it. You can't

00:37:46.020 prevent it. And I really worry that that might lead to more suicides. I worry that it does lead to more

00:37:51.420 suicides. I worry that the way that we talk about suicide of prominent people, the way the conversation

00:37:56.780 happens and the things people say, and I, and, and I know they say it with, with good intentions.

00:38:02.500 I know that, but I, I really worry that it caused that causes the wrong word, that it, that it helps

00:38:08.300 to promote an atmosphere that encourages suicide. I think, I think the, the, the worst thing that you

00:38:19.420 can do for someone who is on the verge of, of that is make them feel powerless because they already feel

00:38:28.860 powerless. They already feel like I have no choice. I have to do this. So how, for us to respond and

00:38:34.660 say, you're right. I just think that's extremely dangerous, extremely. Now I get why we use this

00:38:42.240 language. We don't want to be seen as blaming or condemning. Um, we don't want to seem disrespectful.

00:38:47.300 We don't want to add to the family's pain. I'm very sympathetic to that. I get that. I do. I really do.

00:38:52.580 But we have to think also about, um, we have to think about the living. We have to think about the

00:38:58.360 next potential person who might go down that road. What do they need to hear? I think we need to think

00:39:03.820 about that more. And I think you have no choice. You have no power is a terrible message for them.

00:39:10.240 It's the worst thing you could say to them. Um, think about someone who is literally standing on a

00:39:19.120 ledge and they're about to jump. Would you ever say to them, you have no choice. You have no power.

00:39:25.960 This might just happen to you. No, no, no. Your message would be the opposite, right? Wouldn't it

00:39:30.300 be? No, you don't have, when they're screaming down to you from the ledge, I have no choice. I have to do

00:39:35.460 this. There's no way out. Aren't you saying, no, you do have a choice. You don't have to do this.

00:39:39.860 There is a way. Isn't that your message to them? Isn't that what anyone would say? Well, if that's what

00:39:45.200 we would say, then isn't that what we should say? Um, as for saying he's in peace, he's with Jesus,

00:39:52.980 uh, uh, again, yeah, I see your concern because that, that does seem to promote suicide. I, I,

00:39:58.660 and nobody means it that way, of course, but how would it not? Well, if, if that's the case,

00:40:07.860 you commit suicide, just go right to heaven and then, then why, why, why don't we all do it then?

00:40:15.080 Heaven's definitely better than earth. And so, so, uh, why even treat suicide like a sad thing in

00:40:20.540 that case? Now, at the same time, of course, we're not going to sit here and say everyone who does that

00:40:28.500 is not in heaven, right? We're not going to say that either. I'm not saying that. And you didn't

00:40:32.500 say that. Nobody can say that. I think we, we can't say where anybody is, no matter how they died,

00:40:39.680 even if they did die by cancer, no matter how anyone died, we can't say where anyone is or what

00:40:44.000 happened to anyone after death. And so I think it's best to just leave that alone for everybody

00:40:48.740 and, and, and not make definitive declarations about where they are, what happened or, or we can't

00:40:56.420 because we, we're not God. We can't do that. Um, it's best to say, you know, we can say what we hope

00:41:03.080 and what we pray and all of that. But I think we should as much as possible refrain from saying

00:41:10.200 things that we know we can't possibly actually know to be true. Um, anyway, it's a delicate subject,

00:41:18.580 as I said, but an important one. And, um, the main thing here is, is, you know, we pray for his family

00:41:25.540 and encourage anyone who's feeling like Jared was feeling at the end to encourage them to seek

00:41:31.920 help, to get help, to talk to somebody. Um, you know, you don't have to be alone. Even if you feel

00:41:40.140 alone, you don't have to be alone. You're not. And there is help out there. Um, and suicide is just

00:41:49.860 never a solution to anything. All right. Um, and I, and, and, and to look and see when, when,

00:42:02.300 when this kind of thing happens and you look and you see the, the families that are left behind,

00:42:06.280 um, which proves, you know, these are people who felt alone, but obviously we're not, we're very,

00:42:15.960 very, very far from being alone. In fact, they had, their lives were incredibly important and

00:42:23.580 integral to the lives of so many other people who now will have this massive hole in their lives

00:42:28.980 that will never, ever be filled. All right. Um, this is from, uh, see how much time we have here.

00:42:39.100 This is from Jean says, dear Matt, due to my long commute each day, I listen to daily wire as follows.

00:42:44.780 Ben on my way home, Michael in the evening while cooking dinner and you on my morning commute this

00:42:49.080 morning. You know, it's a good system. Um, if you need to cut the other two out, just listen to me.

00:42:54.880 I mean, you can listen to me three times if you wanted to. I'm just saying it's, it's up to you.

00:42:59.140 Um, this morning while in bumper to bumper traffic, I was laughing out loud, listening to you talk about

00:43:03.100 the Ravens game bathroom dilemma with your son. The people in the cars next to me probably all thought

00:43:07.400 I was a nut job due to laughing so hard. I'm glad you didn't have to crawl in urine. Me too.

00:43:11.160 You also discussed your pet peeve of not being able to watch people eat bagels.

00:43:16.160 One of my pet peeves is rubber bands. Give me the creeps. I won't touch them. I avoid them as

00:43:20.380 much as possible. Would you mind sharing your top five pet peeves? I appreciate your unique,

00:43:25.040 unique perspective, insight, and commentary on our news and culture. Keep up the fantastic job you're

00:43:29.280 doing. Yeah. Some people ask me, why do you have a pet peeve about bagels? It's just the way they

00:43:33.360 sound when people are eating them. I don't know what it is. Um, just the kind of, it's kind of like

00:43:37.940 swishy, squishy kind of sound people make when they, I can't describe it. The sound of people

00:43:44.860 eating chips or something crunchy, that doesn't really bother me, but something that there's just,

00:43:50.480 I don't, I can't, I, it's a pet peeve. That's the point. I can't really explain why it annoys me so

00:43:54.480 much, but it does. As far as my other pet peeves, I can't rank them because honestly, everything's a

00:44:00.320 pet peeve for me. Everything annoys me. I can find a reason to be annoyed by anything and everything in

00:44:05.560 life. It's one of my great talents. If you can really call it a talent. So, uh, I don't even

00:44:12.400 know if I can, if that's a question I can answer, but I appreciate the question. This is from LJ says,

00:44:17.060 Matt, what do you think of the rule change in the NFL allowing challenges on pass interference?

00:44:21.100 I think, um, the NFL is like Congress where they get together every year and they feel like they just

00:44:28.320 have to do, they have to pass laws and change things. And they just cause, well, we're together,

00:44:32.960 we might as well. Um, when really with Congress, I always say people complain, Oh, Congress isn't

00:44:37.740 doing anything good. That's what we want. We don't want them to just pass laws for the sake of it.

00:44:42.420 Might as well pass some laws fellows. Um, that's not good. And the NFL does the same thing where

00:44:47.040 every year they just, they make rule changes because, because they have to, because they feel

00:44:52.460 like they have to, or they feel like they, they might as well. And those rule changes are almost

00:44:57.140 always bad. They almost always make the game worse except for this rule change. I totally support it.

00:45:02.720 I think, um, pass interference calls. Look, you give coaches three challenges. I think let them

00:45:08.900 challenge whatever they want. It's not like, you know, you're not giving them 50 challenges or

00:45:13.100 unlimited, but they have three and, uh, they should be able to challenge anything that affects the

00:45:17.380 outcome of the game. The idea that the calls made by the refs should be above challenge is to me so

00:45:24.980 absurd, so ridiculous, um, that it doesn't make any sense. A pass interference call has, is an

00:45:34.600 enormously important call and it can really affect the outcome of the game. It can, it can lose or

00:45:39.240 win a game in the end. And if an erroneous pass interference is called, think about a pass

00:45:44.880 interference. If it's a spot foul pass interference, that could, that could be a 55 yard penalty.

00:45:51.260 Um, and if it, if it was wrong and if the ref was wrong and there was no pass interference,

00:45:56.960 of course we should be able to go, we have the technology to go back and look at it. And so of

00:46:01.080 course we should, it's, it's worth a couple of minutes to look at it rather than just saying,

00:46:05.080 ah, give them the 55 yards. Uh, that could be the, that could be the difference between winning

00:46:09.260 and losing a game. And, and you want as much as possible to minimize having refs be the ones who win

00:46:15.840 or lose games because nobody's watching for that. That, that, that destroys the product. Nobody's

00:46:20.740 watching to see what the refs do. The refs are supposed to be as much as possible invisible. Um, 1.00

00:46:29.040 some, uh, there, there are people who argue, well, human error is part of the game. Yeah. Human error

00:46:33.540 of the players. If players are making mistakes, then yeah, that's part of the game, but mistakes by

00:46:39.000 the refs, that is only by default part of the game. It's just, it's part of the game because we

00:46:43.840 haven't had any, any way of removing it from the game. But if we can remove those human errors by

00:46:47.960 the refs as much as possible, we should do it. Um, finally, this is from Rose says, Matt, I've been

00:46:54.740 a fan for a long time, but no more. Your comment on Chick-fil-A, uh, was beyond the pale. You should

00:47:00.260 be ashamed. Yeah. I said on Twitter yesterday and it was, uh, I think I, someone told me I was trending

00:47:05.060 on Twitter briefly because of, uh, people were attacking me because I said that Chick-fil-A is

00:47:10.980 overrated. I stand by what I said. Uh, and the treatment that I have gotten

00:47:18.420 only brings to mind what Jesus said in the gospel is blessed are those who are persecuted for

00:47:25.200 righteousness. Speaking of victim mentalities by Christians, there you go. Uh, no, I look, 1.00

00:47:32.520 I'm not saying that Chick-fil-A is bad. When I call something overrated, that doesn't mean it's bad.

00:47:37.760 It just means that it's overrated. It means that it's not as good as everyone says.

00:47:42.560 Chick-fil-A is a good fast food place. I like it. I go to it. I think it's top five. It's not number

00:47:49.940 one. That's all I'm saying. It, it, it, they do a good chicken sandwich. That's all they really do

00:47:55.660 that well. Uh, I think their fries are not good. They're not crispy enough. They're too greasy.

00:48:01.200 Um, they're undercooked much of the time. There, there, there are probably 10 different fast food

00:48:06.920 places that do better fries than, than a Chick-fil-A, but they got the chicken sandwich.

00:48:10.000 They do a good chicken sandwich and it is good. It's the best chicken sandwich on the market, but

00:48:13.720 you know, it, it's a chicken sandwich. And so it's just, it's, it's, it's, they don't have a diversity

00:48:19.000 in the menu, which is fine because this is what they do. But a really good chicken sandwich is not

00:48:24.580 going to be, it's not going to be better than, for instance, a really good hamburger. So I'm going

00:48:31.780 to take a place that does a really good hamburger because hamburgers are superior to chicken

00:48:36.200 sandwiches and they're going to be above Chick-fil-A. So that's why five guys, for example, is above

00:48:40.260 Chick-fil-A. Chipotle, if you, if you don't mind the, the E. coli every once in a while, Chipotle is

00:48:47.080 better than Chick-fil-A. Um, you know, Arby's, I got news for you, is better than Chick-fil-A.

00:48:53.440 Chick-fil-A is a top five place and they got great service. The fact that all the protests

00:49:00.860 and everything and the freak out by the left, that does make the stuff taste better. Okay. So when

00:49:06.100 you, when you, when you're eating the chicken sandwich and you're thinking about how it makes,

00:49:09.640 uh, uh, leftist cry, that does make it taste better, but still it doesn't quite put them over

00:49:15.200 the hump to get them into the top three. I'd say they're, you know, number four or five on the list.

00:49:19.320 Very solid. They're never going to get into that top three because

00:49:23.260 chicken sandwiches can only bring you so far in life, unfortunately. And, and listen,

00:49:28.540 chicken is just never going to be beef. Uh, it's always going to be chicken. And so

00:49:33.360 it's always going to be behind the places that excel in beef. And that's, look, these are facts.

00:49:40.260 Okay. I'm not, you, you, you, you can react however you want, but, but what I'm telling you,

00:49:46.600 these are just scientifically proven facts.

00:49:49.940 All right. We'll leave it there. Thanks everybody for watching. Uh, have a great

00:49:55.540 day and we'll talk tomorrow. Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - September 17, 2019

Ep. 333 - The Real Kavanaugh Bombshell

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