The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 334 - The Grisly Story The Media Is Ignoring

00:00:00.720 You know, I'm not normally a fan of outrage mobs, but this is one mob that I can get behind, that I can join even.

00:00:08.820 People are outraged because the CEO of Sony hinted that Sony might be cooking up a remake to The Princess Bride.

00:00:20.280 And I swear, if they do that, there will be riots in the streets, and I will be there too, throwing bricks in windows and doing whatever else.

00:00:28.820 I've been waiting for an excuse to join a riot, and this might actually be it.

00:00:32.980 Just leave The Princess Bride alone, Sony. Just leave it alone. 1.00

00:00:36.000 There are some movies that are, there's no conceivable way to improve upon them.

00:00:41.160 They're nearly perfect as they are, and this is one of those.

00:00:44.920 Here's an idea. If you want to make a movie that's sort of like The Princess Bride, a movie that's inspired by it, a movie that's in the same vein as it, then just make that movie.

00:00:56.060 You know, there used to be this concept of genre in film where you'd have a bunch of movies that have similar themes, similar kinds of plots, but aren't exactly the same.

00:01:09.700 And that's what we call a genre. But now it's just every movie is the same.

00:01:13.340 So if someone says, you know, I think we should make a movie about people in space, you know, and it's, oh, another Star Wars movie.

00:01:19.860 No, no, no, just another movie about people in space.

00:01:22.440 Oh, yeah, Star Wars. Definitely. Let's make another Star Wars.

00:01:25.700 You don't really have to do that. You could just, and my God, can you imagine what they would do to this movie?

00:01:32.880 Can you imagine the woke remake, the woke-ification of Princess Bride? 0.86

00:01:38.120 Princess Buttercup is a feminist bisexual. 1.00

00:01:40.220 You know, the movie ends when she gives Prince Humperdinck an empowering lecture about consent, and he realizes the error of his ways and lets him go.

00:01:50.000 And then she flees into the arms of Wesley, and they agree to have a polyamorous relationship.

00:01:54.840 And of course, you have to make one of the male characters gay, probably Fezzik, I guess, the giant. 0.97

00:02:00.200 And then the Spaniard is trans, the trans-yard, we would call him. 1.00

00:02:03.540 So anyway, just leave this one alone is all I'm saying.

00:02:06.660 We have to draw a line somewhere, for God's sakes, and I think this is where we draw the line.

00:02:11.220 All right, plenty to get to today.

00:02:12.560 And first out of the gate, we're going to talk about something that is related to the unborn here in a second.

00:02:23.540 But on that topic, the Right to Life UK, the organization Right to Life, the UK branch of Right to Life, points out on Twitter that The Guardian, which is a major left-wing newspaper in the UK,

00:02:38.240 they have this morning on their front page a reference to unborn babies, using that phrase, unborn babies, on the front page of The Guardian.

00:02:47.820 And Right to Life is, understandably, celebrating the fact that this left-wing news organization has finally decided to use humanizing language about the unborn, because that's very unusual.

00:02:58.500 You never hear the phrase or read the phrase, unborn babies, in the left-wing media.

00:03:05.540 Except, wait a minute, I think we should hold off on throwing a parade just yet, because what's the headline?

00:03:12.140 The headline is, again, front page, right there, the headline is, Unborn Babies Exposed to Toxic Air Pollution.

00:03:21.900 And the article is all about how unborn babies are affected by air pollution.

00:03:26.440 So, you see, when pollution is harming unborn babies, then they're unborn babies.

00:03:33.700 But when abortionists are doing the harming, when it's an abortion drug doing the polluting, well, then they're fetuses again.

00:03:43.100 In other words, they're babies when it's politically expedient for them to be babies, and they're fetuses when it's politically expedient for them to be fetuses.

00:03:50.940 So this is not an improvement, I'm afraid to say.

00:03:53.620 This, in fact, is a really stark example of the problem, where we grant unborn humans personhood based on what's most convenient for us.

00:04:06.140 So it's entirely arbitrary.

00:04:08.660 So it's not even, we can't even really say that the pro-abortion side has dehumanized the unborn.

00:04:18.200 That actually would be too consistent.

00:04:20.360 In a way, we give them too much credit when we say that, because that would seem to imply that they have some, that they at least have some sort of consistent narrative about what the unborn child actually is.

00:04:35.300 But they don't.

00:04:37.340 They, the, whether or not the being in the womb as a person really just depends on politics, on convenience.

00:04:46.440 It just depends.

00:04:47.320 It really depends.

00:04:47.900 So it's entirely arbitrary.

00:04:51.500 So when you ask, well, where do you draw the line?

00:04:53.860 When is the baby a person?

00:04:55.660 The answer is, they don't draw the line anywhere.

00:04:58.720 At least not anywhere, not, they have no one place where they draw the line.

00:05:04.800 What they would ask you is, well, what's the situation?

00:05:06.920 So that humanity, the very definition of what constitutes a person is, is now situational.

00:05:18.840 And this provides a transition into the topic I want to discuss to begin with, because the Guardian has another story, or they had another story a few days ago, different story.

00:05:29.140 Only in this, and this is a good example, in this headline, the babies were fetuses again.

00:05:33.600 Here's the headline.

00:05:34.280 More than 2,000 fetal remains found at home of former Indiana abortion doctor.

00:05:41.540 Now, the media, the leftist media, has given as little attention to this story as they can possibly get away with.

00:05:47.060 They have had to at least mention it, because it's too big to completely ignore.

00:05:51.140 So they mention it, they do their article, and they do their little segment on it, and then they move on quickly, and that's what they've done.

00:05:57.680 But it is a big story.

00:05:58.840 An abortionist named Ulrich Klopfer recently died, and it was discovered after his death that he had the medically preserved, quote-unquote, bodies of over 2,000 aborted babies in his home in Indiana.

00:06:13.060 He had these trophies in his home.

00:06:18.860 2,000, I think about 2,000 in his home.

00:06:23.080 LifeSite News has, but this is, now, in that case, they're fetuses.

00:06:27.160 Because the Guardian is never going to say, oh, he had the remains of 2,000 babies.

00:06:34.620 Because if you do that, well, now that just sounds, that makes abortion sound horrifying.

00:06:39.420 That makes abortionists sound like serial killers, which they are. 0.99

00:06:43.100 But the Guardian's not going to.

00:06:44.700 So all of a sudden, they're back to being fetuses there.

00:06:48.960 LifeSite News has more information about this lovely man and the crimes he committed.

00:06:54.280 It says, the bodies of 2,246 aborted babies were found in the home of a recently deceased abortionist who previously operated in 2020 Democrat contender Mayor Pete Buttigieg's South Bend, Indiana.

00:07:05.300 Abortionist Dr. Ulrich Klopfer committed abortions at the Women's Pavilion in South Bend, Indiana, home to the University of Notre Dame, and at other Indiana facilities until his medical license was suspended in 2016.

00:07:19.680 As the Watchdog Group Operation Rescue has extensively documented, Klopfer had a history of abuses, including failing to report statutory rape of a 13-year-old and a 10-year-old.

00:07:30.520 He sent the latter home with her parents, who knew their daughter was raped by her uncle, but didn't want him prosecuted.

00:07:38.920 And they didn't report it to the police.

00:07:42.880 Klopfer is far from the only abortionist to do this.

00:07:45.740 This is very common.

00:07:48.080 But think about that. 0.94

00:07:48.760 A 10-year-old girl raped by a family member, her despicable, evil parents don't want to report it to police, and Klopfer goes along with it. 0.57

00:07:57.620 Well, why is that? 0.99

00:07:58.360 Because Klopfer's a monster. 1.00

00:08:00.520 Back to the article, it says,

00:08:01.880 The Will County Sheriff's Office announced on September 13th that an attorney representing the family of Dr. Ulrich Klopfer called the county coroner's office on September 12th to inform them that while going through the doctor's personal property, they discovered what appeared to be fetal remains and requested that Will County Coroner's office provide proper removal.

00:08:19.200 And then skipping ahead a little bit, they go in, they find these 2,246 dead babies.

00:08:27.280 Although they say that there is no evidence that any medical procedures were conducted at the property.

00:08:37.260 So this raises the question of, was he performing illegal abortions or something in the home?

00:08:41.160 They say there's no evidence of that.

00:08:42.460 And then LifeSite News points out that this would raise the possibility that they were aborted in Indiana and then transported across state lines, which would be a federal crime, which would mean the federal government has to get involved.

00:08:55.320 Now, why would this weirdo, this freak, and yes, in this case, I will happily speak ill of the dead, the dead in this case being the dead Klopfer. 1.00

00:09:07.220 However, why would this disgusting freak of a person have 2,000 dead children preserved in his home? 0.98

00:09:16.980 Well, because he was a serial killer. 0.98

00:09:20.080 And this is what serial killers do.

00:09:23.000 And this is why, as I said, this is why the media has just glanced at this story and moved on as fast as they possibly could.

00:09:29.120 Because it brings to light a really uncomfortable fact, and it raises uncomfortable questions about the psychology of people who go into the business of killing babies.

00:09:38.580 And this guy isn't the only one, all right?

00:09:40.680 This isn't one case.

00:09:42.620 Gosnell, you may remember, had a bunch of trophies that he kept, mainly the hands and feet of his victims.

00:09:51.680 He kept in jars and so on, in his office, in his home.

00:09:56.620 Again, why?

00:09:57.780 Why would he do this?

00:09:59.120 For the same reason, any serial killer does it.

00:10:02.140 I say this raises uncomfortable questions for the pro-abortion side.

00:10:05.040 Of course, it raises many questions, but one of them is, is it really possible for someone to get into the business of abortion?

00:10:13.920 To do this every day.

00:10:15.600 To butcher babies every day. 0.97

00:10:18.320 And not end up a deeply disturbed and deranged person.

00:10:23.460 Now, you'll say, you have to be deeply disturbed and deranged to get into the business in the first place, and that's true.

00:10:28.200 But the job itself, doing the job, I think has the effect of killing off whatever was left of your conscience.

00:10:36.800 Whatever conscience you might have had, however compromised, going into this job, I think will be obliterated by the job.

00:10:44.400 There's no way you can retain it.

00:10:45.480 Think about the Nazis at Nuremberg.

00:10:48.200 The, you know, the famous phrase, the banality of evil, which, which comes from, from, from the Nazis at Nuremberg.

00:10:54.340 And just, just how they appeared to be these, you know, they weren't comic book villains who were laughing maniacally about, about the horrible things they did.

00:11:04.700 These were just empty people.

00:11:08.280 Blank expressions.

00:11:09.520 They, they, they, they, they appeared to be almost bored talking about the slaughter they carried out.

00:11:16.240 Um, because they had done so much evil for so long that they had lost their souls.

00:11:22.800 They had lost their conscience.

00:11:25.600 Think about, and then, and then that brings to mind, uh, think about the undercover Planned Parenthood videos,

00:11:30.220 which Dave Delighton of, of Center for Medical Progress is in the process of being, of being legally persecuted for, for those, um, videos.

00:11:38.880 But think about that.

00:11:39.660 Think about the, the, you remember the, the joke that one of the abortionists made about, uh, she'll, she'll get a Lamborghini for selling dead baby parts.

00:11:46.800 It was that kind of thing, laughing, joking about it.

00:11:50.060 Somehow even more unsettling, though, was in many of the videos, what you saw is kind of like, again, the Nazis at Nuremberg, just this, this serial killer kind of look.

00:12:01.220 Where they're so casual about it, so almost bored with it, that you think these are people, there's just nothing left inside.

00:12:10.820 Their soul is dead.

00:12:14.420 Men without chess, as, uh, as what C.S. Lewis would describe people without, without a conscience anymore.

00:12:21.160 And that's, and that's what you have here.

00:12:23.640 But the media doesn't want us talking about that.

00:12:26.040 They don't want us realizing that, uh, makes them very uncomfortable.

00:12:30.220 And so that's why they move on from the story, even though it is a huge, huge story.

00:12:34.920 All right.

00:12:35.600 Um, let's, uh, a couple of the things I wanted to talk about.

00:12:39.500 And, and, and we'll, we'll start with this.

00:12:41.900 This is some comic relief, I guess.

00:12:43.680 Kind of a palate cleanser after the, the sick and disturbing stuff we just talked about.

00:12:47.240 Union Theological Seminary is a source of never-ending hilarity.

00:12:52.140 Uh, if you can find it within yourself to find heresy funny.

00:12:55.940 Which, which most of the time I can't.

00:12:57.960 But in this case, I kind of do, because I, I, I just can't help it.

00:13:01.920 Union Theological Seminary is a heretical outfit.

00:13:04.080 They teach, uh, they teach a completely insane version of, of Christianity. 1.00

00:13:08.320 If we can even call it that.

00:13:10.080 And they sent out a tweet today.

00:13:11.740 And this is not a joke.

00:13:13.020 Okay.

00:13:13.280 I, I, this, this, this, I promise you it's not a joke.

00:13:16.060 This is, this is real.

00:13:18.420 Uh, take a look at this.

00:13:19.640 Here's the tweet.

00:13:20.800 The tweet says, today in chapel, we confessed to plants.

00:13:25.700 Together, we held our grief, joy, regret, hope, guilt, and sorrow in prayer, offering them

00:13:30.800 to the beings who sustain us, but whose gift we too often fail to honor.

00:13:35.500 What do you confess to the plants in your life?

00:13:41.100 Uh, I have to say nothing.

00:13:42.740 Is what I confess to the plants in my life.

00:13:44.760 There's a picture of a person.

00:13:46.360 And then, and if you, if you can't, if you're not watching right now, you can't see this.

00:13:48.860 There is a, there's a picture of a person sitting and talking to a group of plants while a bunch

00:13:53.680 of other people sit and watch this exchange, which I have to assume was a rather one-sided

00:13:59.140 conversation.

00:14:01.440 Um, if you're, if you're confessing to plants, you know, and, and they give you a penance to

00:14:07.680 do or something, if they respond, if they start, then, then you know that there's really

00:14:12.440 a concern here.

00:14:14.140 But all those people watching, here's what's striking about this photo.

00:14:17.180 All it, well, the whole thing is striking, but if I had to point to one particular thing,

00:14:22.260 all of those people watching as this woman sits and talks to plants, none of those people

00:14:29.980 are even smirking.

00:14:31.240 I mean, could, could you physically be in that room while this is happening and not

00:14:36.300 at a minimum smirk?

00:14:38.880 None of them are.

00:14:39.720 They're just sitting there, just sitting there business as usual.

00:14:45.000 And that's how, you know, the brainwashing is really working.

00:14:47.340 I imagine that the, the people who run the Union Theological Seminary were kind of standing

00:14:54.640 off to the side off camera and rubbing their hands together and saying, yes, yes, it's working.

00:15:00.740 Um, look, all I can say is that I think based on that picture, they are taking veggie tales

00:15:06.220 way too literally.

00:15:07.420 That's, I think that's really the problem here.

00:15:09.260 I wonder, I wonder how these people can manage to walk across like a grassy field.

00:15:13.920 How do they do that?

00:15:15.880 They're walking across.

00:15:16.820 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:15:17.420 Sorry.

00:15:17.720 Oh, sorry.

00:15:18.320 Sorry.

00:15:18.660 Sorry.

00:15:19.800 Um, do they apologize to their Caesar salad before eating it?

00:15:24.000 Because that has to be an awkward conversation.

00:15:27.420 Listen, I don't know how to tell you this, but I'm, I'm going to, well, I'm going to consume

00:15:33.660 you.

00:15:34.040 I, uh, I am really sorry about that.

00:15:35.780 Please don't take it personally.

00:15:38.120 Or do they not eat salad at all?

00:15:39.760 Because that's, that's really my question.

00:15:41.240 Uh, and I always wonder this because the people who are most likely to be idolaters of, uh,

00:15:48.240 uh, you know, to, to engage in this idolatry of, of, of plants.

00:15:51.980 And this is, this is what you're looking at there.

00:15:53.920 That's paganism. 0.90

00:15:54.720 Okay.

00:15:54.980 So this is, this is grade A paganism on display, but the people who are most likely to do that 0.86

00:16:01.960 are also the people who, you know, just are almost certainly vegan.

00:16:07.120 There's just no chance they're not vegan, but then there's this, there's this obvious

00:16:12.600 contradiction here because you're worshiping plants, but then those are also the only things

00:16:18.300 you eat.

00:16:20.420 Or do you not eat plants?

00:16:23.500 How does that work?

00:16:24.540 I mean, assuming you don't eat animals, but you don't eat plants because, you know, plants

00:16:29.780 have feelings too.

00:16:30.620 I mean, you can't very well confess your sins to, to, to someone and then eat them.

00:16:38.120 Um, that it, look, if that becomes the process, that's going to cause a lot of problems in the

00:16:43.580 Catholic church.

00:16:44.740 Uh, it's good.

00:16:45.280 Things are going to get pretty dicey for priests, but so then how does that work?

00:16:49.840 So you, so you don't eat meat.

00:16:50.700 You don't eat, you don't eat plants.

00:16:52.280 What do you eat?

00:16:54.100 Ceramic?

00:16:55.460 You just, whatever someone gives you, you dump the food off the plate and eat the plate.

00:16:58.680 One last thing to think about here is, can you imagine how these people would have reacted,

00:17:05.960 um, if they saw Jesus curse the fig tree?

00:17:12.540 I mean, the son of God would have got a talking to on that one.

00:17:15.100 Can you just, can you just imagine them, them witnessing that thing?

00:17:17.660 I wonder if, do they even, they must, they must rip that part.

00:17:21.520 They must do whiteout over that part of the Bible because that would be way too traumatizing

00:17:25.260 if they were to realize that Jesus, who I, who I, I, they, they probably think is a, is,

00:17:31.640 was a hippie vegan socialist to realize that he, uh, cursed a fig tree.

00:17:38.620 All right.

00:17:39.380 Um, moving on.

00:17:41.340 So this is interesting and, uh, uh, I'm interested in, in, in your take on this.

00:17:47.200 An editor at the New York times.

00:17:48.900 Now the New York times has really been stepping in it a lot recently.

00:17:53.560 And, and here we go again, this time it's an editor at the New York times named Gina

00:17:57.920 chair loose, probably not how you pronounce it, but that's best I can do who apparently,

00:18:03.380 um, has a long history of, of, uh, offensive quote unquote tweets.

00:18:09.240 Some conservatives went through her Twitter history.

00:18:11.900 Uh, I don't know why they selected her for this treatment.

00:18:15.180 I'm not sure, but they did and they went through and they found a bunch of social media posts,

00:18:20.560 uh, going back most back eight, nine, 10 years ago.

00:18:24.440 Um, uh, but a bunch of posts that by the current rules are racist, homophobic, et cetera.

00:18:32.080 Now, Gina herself is a black woman, so she might get away with some of this stuff. 1.00

00:18:35.860 Uh, there's a lot of stuff where she's, she's, uh, insulting white people. 1.00

00:18:39.600 Now that she's, you know, that she can do all day. 0.87

00:18:42.280 No one's going to have a problem with that. 0.79

00:18:43.560 Um, but there's also a lot of, of the, the homophobic stuff, which her being a black woman, 1.00

00:18:50.160 that's not going to help her there. 0.76

00:18:52.660 Remember, remember the victim pyramid, the victim hierarchy on the left.

00:18:56.060 And remember that at the LGBT, they're at the very top of it.

00:18:58.820 So you're, you're not now, now if you're a black woman, you're, you're pretty close to

00:19:02.800 the top.

00:19:03.320 You're not at the very top.

00:19:04.660 Um, so that could get her into some trouble.

00:19:08.680 And, and for example, she uses the D word for lesbians. 1.00

00:19:11.980 She uses the F word for gay men. 0.70

00:19:13.800 She even uses the Q word to the trifecta. 1.00

00:19:16.980 She has the homophobia trifecta, all three words.

00:19:20.740 Um, now a lot of conservatives are saying, uh, saying, Hey, you know, uh, these are your

00:19:30.140 rules.

00:19:31.780 Now your life has to be destroyed too. 0.62

00:19:34.140 Okay.

00:19:34.660 We're, we're, we're going to play this game by your rules.

00:19:36.720 And she did apologize for the tweets, but the response to her apology from a lot of

00:19:41.200 conservatives has been too bad, too bad.

00:19:43.180 You're sorry.

00:19:44.060 Your life has to be ruined.

00:19:45.180 You have to be fired.

00:19:46.180 Uh, you don't accept it when other people apologize.

00:19:48.440 So we don't accept your apologize.

00:19:50.260 Now it's your turn to fall on that sword. 0.83

00:19:53.960 And so look, first of all, I just said yesterday that objectively it's, it's very silly to get

00:20:02.040 all outraged about offensive stuff.

00:20:04.600 People said in the past.

00:20:06.720 Because we've all said offensive stuff.

00:20:08.260 I just, I just went on this spiel yesterday.

00:20:10.640 We've all said offensive stuff.

00:20:12.160 All of us had, have many times in our lives.

00:20:15.860 It may not, you know, the, the offensive stuff we we've all said, it may be different kinds.

00:20:21.920 Maybe it may be, it may be different genres of offensive, but we've all said offensive things. 1.00

00:20:27.540 So digging up offensive comments and feigning outrage is disingenuous, stupid, malicious, and 1.00

00:20:32.980 so on. 1.00

00:20:34.320 And hypocritical. 0.92

00:20:36.720 And I've also said that nobody should ever apologize in these situations. 0.94

00:20:42.080 Don't apologize to people who are only pretending to be outraged.

00:20:46.020 And in these situations, all of every, in every case, the people who are demanding the apology

00:20:51.840 are not really offended.

00:20:54.180 Their feelings aren't really hurt.

00:20:56.300 And even if their feelings are hurt, I would, I would still say you probably shouldn't apologize,

00:21:00.700 but they're not.

00:21:01.840 So that's even more real.

00:21:02.900 Why would you apologize to someone who is only feigning outrage?

00:21:09.320 So that's what I've said in the past.

00:21:11.160 I stand by it.

00:21:12.080 But on the other hand, the, um, the argument from the other side is, hey, you know, she's

00:21:18.960 a leftist with the New York times.

00:21:20.900 She has herself endorsed cancel culture as it's come to be known.

00:21:25.020 This, this culture of, of quote unquote, canceling people, um, you know, getting them fired,

00:21:30.420 shutting them down, ostracizing them, alienating them because of things that they've said that,

00:21:34.500 that, uh, that, you know, are, are, um, politically incorrect or whatever.

00:21:39.000 And, and she, she's been a part of that.

00:21:40.760 Even yesterday, she was retweeting, uh, things that were in, that were approving, uh, the,

00:21:49.500 the Shane, you know, Shane Gillis, the SNL guy, him get him getting canceled.

00:21:53.620 She was, she seemed to approve of that.

00:21:56.580 And so she should take her own medicine.

00:21:58.480 That's the argument.

00:21:59.240 And that's the only way leftists will learn is if they are forced to experience it themselves.

00:22:05.180 And, and, and that, that, that seems to be the attitude and the approach of a lot of

00:22:08.660 conservatives where they're saying, let's, let's take this stuff and throw it right back

00:22:13.580 in their face.

00:22:15.160 I understand that argument.

00:22:16.620 Okay.

00:22:16.900 I get it.

00:22:17.540 It makes sense.

00:22:18.900 Hoist them with their own petard.

00:22:20.960 It's well-deserved.

00:22:22.220 No question about that.

00:22:23.440 I'm not going to deny that.

00:22:25.940 Um, I mean, if you're out there saying,

00:22:28.140 cancel this person because of the stuff they said, and yet you said similar stuff,

00:22:34.000 then shouldn't you be canceled too?

00:22:37.960 Haven't you in effect canceled yourself already?

00:22:40.620 So I get all that.

00:22:42.980 I understand the logic and, and in a way it's sort of impeccable logic, but however, um, I

00:22:51.720 still can't get behind this.

00:22:53.100 I can't get behind digging up dirt on leftists and calling them for that, for them to be fired

00:22:58.900 and, and, and all of that.

00:23:00.780 Yeah.

00:23:01.260 I guess I can't get behind treating them exactly as they treat us.

00:23:07.600 And I'll tell you why.

00:23:09.000 Okay.

00:23:09.380 I want to give you my reasons and my reasons have nothing to do with not having the stomach

00:23:14.720 for it, with being squeamish, with being a wimp about it.

00:23:17.620 It's nothing to do.

00:23:18.320 I have the stomach to go toe to toe with these people.

00:23:20.520 I, you know, I, I, I think if, you know, if you've been following me for any length of

00:23:23.860 time, I'm not squeamish.

00:23:25.040 I have, I have no issue with upsetting them with, with having people be outraged at me

00:23:30.180 with, you know, fighting, whatever you want.

00:23:32.640 I got no issue with that.

00:23:34.020 I'll do that all day long.

00:23:35.180 Uh, and I think, as I said, if you follow me, you know, if you listen to the show, whatever

00:23:38.760 you read my stuff for any length of time, I think, you know, that's true.

00:23:43.280 So, and that's the problem is that, is that anytime any conservative tries to say, well, maybe

00:23:48.680 this isn't the right approach, they're always accused, ah, you wimp, ah, you're just, you're

00:23:52.160 just lying down, bowing to the left.

00:23:54.320 No, I'm, there may be some conservatives who do lie down and bow to the left, but you know

00:23:58.400 that I don't do that.

00:24:00.120 That's not the way that I play the game.

00:24:03.340 I have different reasons, um, for it.

00:24:07.840 And I'll tell you what my reasons are.

00:24:10.580 Number one, it's transparently disingenuous.

00:24:14.400 Um, it requires us to act like we're offended by something that we clearly are not offended

00:24:21.980 by.

00:24:23.680 And I have a problem with being disingenuous in general.

00:24:26.500 I, I just, I find it to be the most repulsive trait in people.

00:24:29.520 I just, I really hate it.

00:24:30.840 It's the, it's the one thing about a person that I will, that, that repels me the most

00:24:36.160 is, is being disingenuousness in a person I find really repulsive.

00:24:41.160 And so I can't, I can't do it myself.

00:24:44.540 I just can't constitutionally.

00:24:46.860 I cannot do it.

00:24:49.240 Um, and anyway, even aside from that, it's, it's pointless because if everybody knows you're

00:24:54.960 faking it and you know it and everyone else knows it, then what's the point?

00:25:00.820 So if we're sitting here and we're saying, why, why I never, she used this language in

00:25:05.920 a tweet.

00:25:06.320 I find this scandalous.

00:25:08.300 I'm going to faint. 0.98

00:25:09.900 If we're, if we're playing that game, meanwhile, we don't really give a crap, which we don't 0.98

00:25:14.520 and we shouldn't. 0.96

00:25:15.920 I mean, you don't really care about that.

00:25:18.220 What this woman said in a tweet 10 years ago, you don't care. 0.97

00:25:21.540 I don't care what she said.

00:25:22.680 She could have said anything.

00:25:23.940 She could have said the most horrible things you can imagine.

00:25:25.860 I really don't care at all.

00:25:27.760 It does not upset me or offend me.

00:25:29.720 I just, it doesn't.

00:25:30.740 And so I can't pretend it does.

00:25:34.420 And if I did, everybody would know I'm pretending.

00:25:38.040 So why?

00:25:41.220 Now, second thing, more to the point, what is our argument?

00:25:46.680 And this really is, put everything else aside.

00:25:48.540 This really is, is the point.

00:25:50.860 What is our argument?

00:25:52.460 Okay.

00:25:52.660 When, when the left goes and they do their thing and they try to destroy people based

00:25:57.120 on past comments and tweets and whatever, um, what's our argument?

00:26:03.660 Okay.

00:26:04.060 What's, what's our argument against that, that approach our, for, at least I'll tell you my

00:26:13.000 argument.

00:26:13.460 I think this is all of our arguments.

00:26:14.820 Our argument is not, oh, you shouldn't do that to this particular person because we happen

00:26:20.260 to like this person.

00:26:21.280 So when, when, when they did this, for example, to, um, to Kevin Hart with the whole Oscar

00:26:29.320 thing, and they, you know, uh, and, and almost every conservative, even though Kevin Hart is,

00:26:34.400 is, I don't think a conservative by any stretch of the imagination, but, um, every, every conservative, 0.81

00:26:39.360 they were coming out, they were saying, this is ridiculous.

00:26:41.720 And our argument wasn't, oh, don't do this to poor Kevin Hart. 0.71

00:26:44.740 Kevin Hart's such, he's got a heart of gold.

00:26:46.280 He's a, he's such a wonderful guy.

00:26:48.200 Don't do this to Kevin Hart.

00:26:49.500 No, really, it wasn't about Kevin Hart specifically.

00:26:52.860 It was just, don't do this in general to people.

00:26:56.320 You know, a joke he made on Twitter 10 years ago, whether you like the joke or not, is not

00:27:01.540 a reason for professional, for, for, you know, getting him fired from a job and all that stuff

00:27:05.940 now.

00:27:07.820 Um, and that, so that's our argument.

00:27:10.300 It would be a very weak and non-winning argument for, for us to respond and say, oh, don't do

00:27:15.340 that to this particular person because we happen to like them.

00:27:19.500 Why would anyone listen to that argument?

00:27:23.540 No, our argument is against cancel culture in general.

00:27:28.520 Our counter attack is that this whole thing of digging up dirt, trying to ruin people is

00:27:34.120 BS.

00:27:34.800 It's wrong.

00:27:35.620 It's dishonest.

00:27:36.420 It's manipulative. 0.99

00:27:37.260 It's hypocritical. 1.00

00:27:38.020 It's stupid. 1.00

00:27:38.920 It's petty. 1.00

00:27:40.280 We oppose it.

00:27:42.520 That's our argument, isn't it?

00:27:44.960 Well, if we then turn around and do it ourselves, even in retribution, then we've just forfeited

00:27:54.360 the general on principle argument against cancel culture.

00:27:58.260 We forfeited the argument against it by participating in it.

00:28:03.680 And the problem is, is that it's, it's, it's a really good argument that we're making.

00:28:09.640 And this is point number three related to point number two.

00:28:13.940 This is why I don't want to forfeit our in general, in principle argument against this

00:28:21.120 kind of thing.

00:28:22.280 It's that our argument is right and it's winning.

00:28:28.220 It is a winning argument.

00:28:29.900 I think I, and I really believe this more and more people are, are even people who are

00:28:38.960 ideologically aligned with leftist values in many ways, even, even there, there are a

00:28:44.160 lot of people in that camp who are saying, yeah, you know, I agree with them on a number

00:28:48.540 of things, but I, I, I just can't, I, I can't be associated with, with this because

00:28:53.820 of, because of this, because of this, there are a lot of people, the political correctness,

00:28:59.220 all this stuff.

00:28:59.940 There are a lot of people who are just, um, the outrage mobs, the everything, the 0.92

00:29:05.740 malicious, petty, disingenuous, hypocritical way that they go about things.

00:29:11.720 I think that is alienated, not just right wingers who we don't like them anyway, but

00:29:17.440 it's alienated a lot of people who are in the middle and a lot of people, even on the

00:29:21.200 left who otherwise would be, you know, marching alongside them, but they just can't go along

00:29:26.720 with it.

00:29:26.940 So it is a winning argument.

00:29:29.220 And, uh, and I think if, if, if the right, you know, if conservatives, whatever that even

00:29:36.660 means anymore, have any chance of, of, of winning back the culture, I think it's going

00:29:44.980 to have a lot to do with the left's behavior and us standing on the other side and saying,

00:29:51.160 that's wrong.

00:29:51.720 This is ridiculous for us to be the sort of, uh, even putting ideology aside for us to

00:29:57.560 be the, the, the, the common sense, uh, consistent, just logical people who can sit there with 0.79

00:30:07.480 some of this madness and say, come on guys, this is crazy.

00:30:09.820 No, no, no, no, no.

00:30:12.840 As simple as that argument is, it's very appealing to a lot of people and I don't want to sacrifice.

00:30:18.160 I think we're, we are sacrificing it and we are, we are throwing ourselves into the muck

00:30:23.060 and therefore losing a lot of the converts that we could otherwise win.

00:30:29.640 And not by sucking up to them, but just by being consistent and strong willed and, and logical

00:30:36.020 and, and, and rational, you know, being that way, I think wins people.

00:30:41.640 It's not weakness at all to be rational and, and, and consistent is not weak.

00:30:46.860 It's the opposite of weak.

00:30:48.220 That is strength.

00:30:51.300 And to have a little bit of, of self-control, uh, and exercise a little bit of prudence and

00:30:57.900 to say sometimes, yeah, you know what?

00:30:59.980 Um, we could get a scalp here.

00:31:01.860 We, we, we could take this person down by their own rules, but you know what?

00:31:05.980 We're not going to do it.

00:31:07.160 It's not worth it.

00:31:08.500 That person isn't where that, that, that's what we should say. 0.67

00:31:10.920 Someone like this Gina, whoever her name is, I mean, who the hell is she? 1.00

00:31:14.940 Who cares? 0.89

00:31:16.040 Yeah.

00:31:16.240 You could take the scalp, you could get her fired. 1.00

00:31:18.180 You could, you can, you can, you know, uh, uh, sound the trumpets and, and, and dance a

00:31:23.140 jig because, because you got that little scalp, but who cares? 0.57

00:31:27.420 She, she's not anybody. 0.73

00:31:30.860 What's okay.

00:31:33.520 All we've really accomplished is that we, we have once again, forfeited our winning argument.

00:31:40.920 Um, there's cancel culture and we are supposed to be the ones against it saying we, this

00:31:47.000 is wrong.

00:31:49.180 I, I, and I see this a lot now on the right with conservatives.

00:31:53.640 I think we are, we are forfeiting a lot of winning arguments unnecessarily.

00:31:59.840 And we are in effect, joining the left and adopting their mentality and their philosophy

00:32:06.720 in an attempt to beat them, which of course is ridiculous because if we become them, then

00:32:12.700 they win.

00:32:14.280 What, what, what in, in the end, does it mean to win?

00:32:17.020 What are they trying to do?

00:32:17.820 They're trying to claim the culture. 0.98

00:32:19.400 You know, to win in this sense, ideologically is for, is for the culture, for almost everyone

00:32:26.040 or most people in the culture to adopt their way of thinking and their philosophy and their

00:32:29.840 worldview.

00:32:30.540 If that happens, then they win.

00:32:32.460 That's what winning means in this case.

00:32:35.860 Um, and so when we join them and use their tactics, then that's just, then that's them

00:32:42.840 winning, even if we claim one of their scalps in the meantime, uh, they still, they still

00:32:49.880 win overall.

00:32:50.900 And so I think that's a mistake.

00:32:52.980 All right, let's go to emails, uh, mattwalshowatgmail.com, mattwalshowatgmail.com.

00:33:00.500 This is from Chana.

00:33:02.220 I think, I think Chana is C-H-A-N-N-A. 1.00

00:33:05.260 Hello, future Supreme dictator, Matt.

00:33:06.900 Congratulations on your fourth kid.

00:33:08.160 I was just wondering how you go about choosing possible baby names.

00:33:11.800 Do your kids have biblical names?

00:33:14.080 Do you name them after family members or, uh, or, or do you just pick names you like?

00:33:19.340 You know, in all honesty, I think we just pick names we like.

00:33:22.600 Now this is, this is probably not the answer my wife would give.

00:33:25.220 Um, and if I was, and if I was, you know, maybe it's not always the answer I would give,

00:33:30.240 but I think in reality, we do just pick names we like.

00:33:34.040 We pick names that we think sound good.

00:33:36.120 And then retroactively, we try to justify them by finding a biblical figure.

00:33:41.500 Or, or saint or, or historical figure or family member, you know, go to ancestry.com.

00:33:46.300 Just like find somebody.

00:33:48.960 And, uh, so that we could feel like the name has more meaning than it does.

00:33:51.660 But, but, but I think, I think where it's, and that is probably true for most people that

00:33:55.460 when it comes down to it, you're trying to find a name that you just think sounds good.

00:33:58.900 And then you can imagine a kid having, uh, and living with for their whole lives.

00:34:04.300 And so we start there and then we think, well, but we don't want to, because, you know, people

00:34:07.880 are going to ask us, why'd you pick that name?

00:34:09.420 And we want to have some profound sounding reason.

00:34:13.260 And so we go look for one, think of a name, go flip through the Bible, you know, is it in

00:34:17.800 there somewhere?

00:34:18.740 And, um, that's, that's basically our, our process.

00:34:23.200 All right.

00:34:24.060 This is from Justin says, hi, Matt, love the show.

00:34:28.540 Appreciate all you're doing.

00:34:29.300 I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the fact that it's been nearly 2000

00:34:32.060 years since Jesus's death and every generation since then has anticipated his return.

00:34:38.740 But yet here we all are all these years later and it hasn't happened.

00:34:42.380 I've been a Christian for most of my life and I was brought up to believe maybe mistakenly

00:34:46.240 in the imminent return of Jesus, but I've been struggling lately with the question, where

00:34:50.040 is Christ and when will he ever return?

00:34:51.360 And anyway, I would appreciate your thoughts on the matter.

00:34:54.240 Uh, thanks.

00:34:56.660 Yeah, I think, um, I, I think you hear a lot of people these days, even, which is what you're

00:35:06.900 alluding to.

00:35:07.500 A lot of Christians who are saying, oh yeah, we're living in the end times.

00:35:10.880 This is it.

00:35:11.380 This is the end times.

00:35:13.080 Uh, it couldn't possibly go on any later than this.

00:35:16.180 I think the people who say that if they only had, I think all.

00:35:21.360 All they would have to do is just study history before you go declaring, oh, this is the end

00:35:25.020 times for sure.

00:35:25.900 This is it.

00:35:27.860 Um, before you declare that, just, just pick up a history book and study history.

00:35:31.280 And what you'll discover is that every single generation going back before Jesus, um, has

00:35:39.740 assumed that their generation was the last one.

00:35:42.180 Every single one.

00:35:43.240 It's just one generation.

00:35:44.260 Oh, this is it.

00:35:45.280 Nope.

00:35:45.740 Oh, this is it.

00:35:46.640 Nope.

00:35:47.080 Oh no, this is definitely it.

00:35:48.560 Nope.

00:35:48.920 Oh no, no, no.

00:35:49.540 It's time.

00:35:50.140 This is, this is it right now. 0.93

00:35:51.940 It's like, if you take a historical, uh, view of it, you, you realize how silly it is.

00:35:58.520 You just, you get at a certain point.

00:36:00.280 It's like clear, clearly, um, we are, we're, we're reading the signs wrong here and, and, uh,

00:36:07.100 we probably should just stop predicting because we're, we're, we're going to be just one generation

00:36:12.280 in the thousands that has said, this is definitely it.

00:36:15.140 It's the end.

00:36:16.940 Um, so you, you can't do that.

00:36:19.060 And I think the Bible makes it clear too.

00:36:20.340 No one, no one will know the day or hour.

00:36:21.980 And, uh, so these are predictions that just can't be made.

00:36:24.540 And in fact, I mean, you could sit there and, and point out all these, oh, well, look

00:36:30.740 at what's happening here in the world and here and there.

00:36:32.620 I mean, this has to be the end time.

00:36:33.460 Like, look, okay, but think about what previous generations have gone through.

00:36:39.720 Think about the generation that, that think about world war two or think about, or world

00:36:43.680 war one, you know, the, the entire world or much of the civilized world anyway is literally

00:36:47.600 at war.

00:36:50.020 Um, or go back to the, uh, to the, to the, to the, you know, when you had epidemics wiping

00:36:58.620 out large swaths of the population across the civilized world.

00:37:04.180 The flu epidemic, the black plague.

00:37:07.720 I mean, think about being someone, a peasant in Western Europe while the black plague was

00:37:13.300 just decimating and killing huge percentages of, of people all across that region of the

00:37:19.320 world.

00:37:19.980 I mean, would you have a pretty good reason to assume that this is the, this is the end?

00:37:23.180 This is a, this is the apocalypse.

00:37:25.300 Yeah, but it wasn't black plague came, killed a lot of people.

00:37:29.560 It went away.

00:37:31.900 Um, I didn't completely go away, but you know what I'm saying?

00:37:34.520 The epidemic happened, it ended and, and that's it.

00:37:37.280 And so all throughout history, there's been that.

00:37:39.400 Um, so yeah, I think we at a certain point just have to stop trying to predict it.

00:37:45.740 And there is something I think also, um, sort of morbid and weird, certainly morbid, but

00:37:53.880 also I would argue kind of weird about it.

00:37:55.600 That we're living our whole lives, just waiting for the end of the world.

00:38:00.600 You think that's really what God wants?

00:38:02.260 And I joke about this too, all the time.

00:38:04.640 Anytime you hear about a, an asteroid that came within, well, they call it a close call.

00:38:09.280 If it came within a hundred million miles, that was a close call.

00:38:11.740 Phew.

00:38:12.840 Um, and every time I hear about one of those, I say, ah man, maybe next time, maybe, maybe

00:38:16.900 we'll have better luck next time.

00:38:18.280 But in reality, that's a joke.

00:38:20.100 I mean, I don't actually want the world to be destroyed.

00:38:22.160 Okay.

00:38:22.340 Let me just, I'll go out on a limb and say that I don't really want the destruction of

00:38:25.580 the world.

00:38:26.140 Uh, I don't think that's how God wants us to live.

00:38:28.440 I think he wants us to live our lives.

00:38:30.160 We have a life, live it.

00:38:32.460 Don't live every day, just waiting for the world to be destroyed.

00:38:35.280 That's kind of, it's a weird way to live.

00:38:37.880 And, uh, I, I just, I don't think that that's why we're given life.

00:38:43.140 Um, now I'm not going to get in.

00:38:44.700 I'm not saying, you know, YOLO, you only live once, uh, go, go live, do whatever you want.

00:38:49.560 And that's not what I'm saying.

00:38:50.400 I'm just saying, uh, that we are, we are certainly given life to live it at a minimum.

00:38:56.760 And, uh, and sitting around waiting for the end of all things doesn't seem like living.

00:39:02.280 It just seems like waiting, treading water.

00:39:05.840 And, uh, I don't think that's what we're meant to do.

00:39:08.000 All right.

00:39:08.460 Finally, this is from Simon says, you talked a lot about pronouns yesterday and you drew

00:39:15.080 the comparison between demanding that other people use the wrong pronouns and having pet

00:39:18.720 peeves.

00:39:19.580 You said that you can't demand that people act differently because you have a pet peeve

00:39:23.020 and you used people eating bagels as an example.

00:39:26.300 However, I wonder if that holds true when you see people FaceTiming in public without earbuds

00:39:30.140 on, or if someone chooses to sit next to you on the bus, even though there are other, there

00:39:33.680 are no other passengers on board.

00:39:36.580 Is this an inconsistency in your statement?

00:39:38.680 Or is there a difference between the two?

00:39:40.460 Please have mercy on me and my family when you gain power in spite of my rude question.

00:39:43.600 Well, mercy, you certainly Simon cannot rely upon, um, but you can rely upon justice.

00:39:51.080 I will promise you that.

00:39:53.360 And in your case, it will be swift and likely fatal.

00:39:57.400 Uh, what I will say.

00:39:58.420 Yeah.

00:39:58.540 I have in the past complained about people who FaceTime in public without putting earbuds

00:40:02.720 on, uh, people who are sitting next to you on a plane and the seat right next to you,

00:40:06.420 even though there are other free seats on the plane where they can get up and move and give

00:40:09.180 you all some room.

00:40:10.580 And you're saying, isn't that a pet peeve? 0.97

00:40:12.560 Aren't I being hypocritical? 0.95

00:40:13.960 Well, the answer is no, because as I said, a pet peeve is something that you are unreasonably

00:40:20.600 annoyed by.

00:40:21.300 Okay.

00:40:21.740 Okay.

00:40:22.180 It is a normal, perfectly fine activity that people are engaging in that for whatever reason,

00:40:29.660 because of the way you're wired, you find annoying.

00:40:33.340 That's a pet peeve.

00:40:35.360 But if it actually is a rude or strange thing, then it's not a pet peeve.

00:40:41.640 It's perfectly rational to be annoyed by it.

00:40:44.680 So I can't, it would be, you can't say, oh, it's my pet peeve when people cut me off in

00:40:49.320 traffic.

00:40:49.640 No, that's just something that annoys you because, because it's rude and dangerous to

00:40:53.480 cut people off in traffic.

00:40:54.300 So it's very logical for you to be annoyed by it.

00:40:57.480 Now, people who FaceTime in public without even bothering to put headphones on and when

00:41:04.640 they could just be talking on the phone instead, forcing us all to listen to their banal, uninteresting,

00:41:12.340 insufferable conversation, that is not only rude, but psychotic behavior.

00:41:20.240 And so I have every right to be enraged by it.

00:41:23.300 I have every right.

00:41:23.960 Here's what I'll say.

00:41:24.620 I think I am certainly within my moral rights, and I would argue even my legal rights, if

00:41:31.120 you're sitting at a coffee shop on FaceTime, I, within my moral and legal rights to come

00:41:37.480 over, take your phone, bring it into the bathroom, and put it in the toilet, and flush the toilet.

00:41:44.640 I am, that would be totally justified in doing that.

00:41:48.000 And, yeah, when you're, if you're sitting in a middle seat on a plane, and there's someone,

00:41:55.720 you know, on the window seat, and nobody shows up for the aisle seat, and you don't move over,

00:42:02.080 again, that is psychotic behavior.

00:42:04.860 That is a sign that you are a dangerous person, even.

00:42:11.760 That's a reason, it would be justified in that case to get up and find the air marshal

00:42:15.480 and say, this, I have suspicions of it.

00:42:17.720 See something, say something, and this is one of those things, because that is just

00:42:20.560 not normal human behavior.

00:42:23.960 All right, but thank you for that question.

00:42:26.760 We'll leave it there.

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The Matt Walsh Show - September 18, 2019

Ep. 334 - The Grisly Story The Media Is Ignoring

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