The Matt Walsh Show - September 19, 2019


Ep. 335 - Justin Trudeau Stars In Aladdin Remake


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Justin Trudeau dressed up as Aladdin in blackface for an Arabian Nights themed party in 2001. Did God have a hand in it? Or was it a divine intervention? And if so, what did He have to say about it?

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00:00:00.000 You know, I want to get serious here for a minute, if you don't mind, right at the start of the show.
00:00:05.320 Over the last few days, especially during the email portion of the show at the end, we've been talking about the problem of suffering and the question of why would a good God allow all this pain and suffering in the world?
00:00:19.900 And it's a very serious question and one that I've been grappling with.
00:00:22.720 But, you know, sometimes in the midst of the darkness, there comes a ray of light, a beam of sunshine, a reminder that God is there and he does love us and he wants us to be happy.
00:00:36.040 And that came last night, I think, in the form of Justin Trudeau in blackface.
00:00:43.500 A lot of people are wondering, you know, who leaked these photos of the Canadian prime minister in blackface?
00:00:50.140 Anyways, where did that come from? Is it really too much to speculate that maybe there was some divine intervention here?
00:00:57.420 Is it is it am I overstating it if I say that maybe God has sent these photos to us?
00:01:04.960 As a way of saying, listen, guys, things are getting pretty serious down there here.
00:01:09.080 Have a laugh. Is that too much?
00:01:12.040 I don't know, because I will say this whole story makes me very happy.
00:01:16.300 I enjoy I love everything about this story.
00:01:19.420 It is absolutely hilarious, you know, because the wokest white boy this side of the Atlantic has a long and sordid history of blackface. 0.99
00:01:31.680 Everything about that is amazing and hilarious.
00:01:34.300 Well, not really amazing, actually kind of expected, but certainly hilarious.
00:01:38.360 And so we're going to talk about that and and we're going to talk about all the implications, spiritual and otherwise, of this story.
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00:03:24.980 All right. So let's get to this this this great story.
00:03:28.160 Justin Trudeau, an insufferable, faux enlightened, faux liberal, faux progressive hack.
00:03:35.620 Who loves nothing more than to flaunt his moral superiority over all of us, all of us mere mortals.
00:03:43.180 Blackface has apparently a very nasty habit of dressing in blackface. 0.99
00:03:50.040 Or as as the Daily Beast has put it in one of their headlines, face darkening makeup.
00:03:56.080 You know, because they're not going to come out and say if it's a liberal, they're not going to say blackface face darkening makeup is what they're saying.
00:04:01.420 Well, he's there's several incidents, at least now that we know of, of Justin Trudeau and blackface.
00:04:08.420 Here he is in 2001 dressed as Aladdin for an Arabian Nights themed party.
00:04:15.020 Take a look at this picture now.
00:04:18.780 Yeah, that's that's Aladdin.
00:04:20.300 He could have dressed like the genie.
00:04:23.280 He could have done blue face and I don't think anyone would be upset.
00:04:26.200 But he went full Aladdin.
00:04:29.000 And look, you never go full Aladdin.
00:04:32.100 I love Aladdin, too.
00:04:33.500 Don't get me wrong.
00:04:34.620 Great movie.
00:04:36.520 And honestly, the remake.
00:04:38.280 And I will say this for Trudeau.
00:04:40.880 The Trudeau remake of Aladdin is at least better than Will Smith's remake of Aladdin.
00:04:46.780 But still, I go with the original, the 90s version.
00:04:49.220 And but if I'm going to dress up as a character from Aladdin, which I have done myself many times, but you know what I'm going to do is I'm going to dress like the magic carpet.
00:05:00.840 And I'll tell you why, because there is nothing woker than a white man dressing like a rug to be literally stepped on. 0.58
00:05:09.020 Now, that is woke.
00:05:10.860 That is showing that as a white man, you know your place, which is on the floor, splayed out with people stepping on you.
00:05:19.220 But, you know, the idea of dressing like Aladdin, like an Arab man, well, you know, I would never dream of it. 1.00
00:05:29.260 But then again, I'm not racist like Trudeau apparently is.
00:05:34.760 Now, here he is.
00:05:36.000 It doesn't end there.
00:05:36.960 Here he is dressing up again in blackface, this time in high school, to perform the Jamaican song Deo.
00:05:42.440 You know that song.
00:05:43.000 I'm not going to get into it.
00:05:43.620 I won't sing it.
00:05:45.200 Don't worry.
00:05:45.820 But, you know, rather than just sing.
00:05:49.160 So we have cultural appropriation, first of all, singing this song, originally a Jamaican song.
00:05:58.940 So we got cultural appropriation with the song.
00:06:02.080 We've got blackface. 0.99
00:06:04.260 He has taken that lovely song, that upbeat, fun song, and turned it essentially into a clan ritual.
00:06:12.760 Shocking.
00:06:14.200 Utterly shocking.
00:06:16.560 I am traumatized by all of this.
00:06:21.820 And it doesn't end there because Trudeau is apparently addicted to blackface.
00:06:26.600 He just, he, this guy can't get enough of it.
00:06:29.600 I've never seen anything like this.
00:06:30.900 He can't stop.
00:06:31.520 It's a compulsion.
00:06:32.080 Here's a third instance, a very grainy video obtained by Global News is, and this is allegedly, apparently, Trudeau in what appears to be blackface.
00:06:43.620 Not sure the context there, but it doesn't matter.
00:06:47.580 If there's one thing I've learned from the left, it's that context doesn't matter.
00:06:53.120 You did it.
00:06:53.960 You said it.
00:06:54.600 Whatever.
00:06:55.320 That's it.
00:06:55.920 So, as this controversy is swirling, Trudeau faced the media last night to explain himself, and here's what he had to say.
00:07:07.260 In 2001, when I was a teacher out in Vancouver, I attended an end-of-year gala where the theme was Arabian Nights.
00:07:18.320 And I dressed up in an Aladdin costume and put makeup on.
00:07:23.120 I shouldn't have done that.
00:07:26.940 I should have known better, but I didn't.
00:07:30.880 And I'm really sorry.
00:07:32.680 Do you think you should resign on this?
00:07:34.780 Would you have called for them to step down?
00:07:36.660 I think there are people who've made mistakes in this life, and you make decisions based on what they actually do, what they did, and on a case-by-case basis, I think.
00:07:50.100 I deeply regret that I did that.
00:07:55.200 I should have known better, but I didn't.
00:07:57.440 Is that the only time you've done something like this, Mr. Trudeau?
00:08:00.580 Is that the only time in your life you've ever done something like that?
00:08:03.580 When I was in high school, I dressed up at a talent show and sang gay with makeup on.
00:08:14.380 That's not even the best part.
00:08:16.660 It gets better.
00:08:17.680 It gets much better.
00:08:18.740 Because he was asked also if there are other incidents of him being racist.
00:08:25.080 And here's what he had to say to that question.
00:08:27.480 Mr. Trudeau, you've mentioned the incident in high school, and we just found out about the photo tonight.
00:08:32.020 Do you want to tell Canadians about any other instances where you were concerned that you were racist, or that you had walkers around?
00:08:39.180 I think it's been plenty.
00:08:42.600 The fact of the matter is that I've always, and you'll know this, been more enthusiastic about costumes than is sometimes appropriate.
00:08:53.160 But these are the situations that I regret deeply.
00:08:57.940 Is it the only two, or there are more?
00:08:59.200 These are the situations I regret deeply.
00:09:01.980 I just, I love that answer so much.
00:09:06.940 That is great.
00:09:08.320 That is one of the funniest lines I've ever heard from a politician.
00:09:12.580 Unintentionally funny, of course, but that is an all-time great line.
00:09:15.640 I don't think you guys understand how great that line is.
00:09:17.500 That is, I just like to see people try that in other contexts.
00:09:22.320 Like, imagine a cop pulls somebody over, and they find meth in the car.
00:09:26.920 And then the officer asks, are we going to find more drugs if we search your car?
00:09:32.140 Well, well, officer, the fact of the matter is that I've always, and you'll know this, been more enthusiastic about chemistry than is sometimes appropriate.
00:09:40.460 I don't know what's better.
00:09:44.700 I think the end, you'll know this part of it, just really, I mean, that's just bon appetit.
00:09:50.540 That's good stuff.
00:09:51.420 That is right.
00:09:52.960 Adding that part in just made it all the better.
00:09:57.260 But even better, maybe, than that was his refrain of, what was at the end?
00:10:04.140 These are the situations I regret deeply.
00:10:07.360 That was his refrain.
00:10:08.240 Are there any more blackface photos out there?
00:10:11.560 These are the situations I regret deeply.
00:10:13.920 Yes, but are there any more?
00:10:15.260 These are the situations I regret deeply.
00:10:16.820 Yes, but these are the situations I regret deeply.
00:10:22.860 Now, okay, let's talk about this situation on, yeah, it's hilarious.
00:10:33.780 It's great, but let's talk about it on an objective level for a minute, all right?
00:10:42.920 Objectively, is it automatically racist for a white person to darken their skin, to use face-darkening makeup, quote-unquote,
00:10:51.680 for the sake of a costume party or Halloween or whatever, talent show, whatever?
00:10:57.980 Is it automatically racist for a white person to be enthusiastic about costumes, as Trudeau puts it?
00:11:05.020 Well, no, of course not.
00:11:08.480 Do I actually think that Justin Trudeau's a racist?
00:11:11.180 No, I don't.
00:11:12.060 I think he's a lot of things, many of them bad, including utterly incompetent as a leader, but no, I don't really think he's racist, no.
00:11:23.640 The blackface used at minstrel shows, when you say blackface, originally that's what it meant, that sort of thing.
00:11:37.200 Now, that kind of blackface was specifically meant to mock black people.
00:11:41.780 It was meant to be a racially insulting thing, mocking black people, dehumanizing, making a caricature out of them.
00:11:50.820 And it was obviously meant to be offensive.
00:11:56.100 And so it was offensive, it was obviously racist.
00:11:59.660 But, you know, a white person dressing up as a character or a famous figure of a different race and darkening their skin complexion in the process,
00:12:11.400 you know, no, that's not really racist.
00:12:14.420 Stupid, maybe, especially these days.
00:12:17.180 Insensitive, you know, I guess, maybe.
00:12:19.900 But not racist.
00:12:21.600 And not even insensitive, really.
00:12:23.340 I mean, it's meant to be, oftentimes in these contexts, it's meant to be a tribute.
00:12:30.300 And again, it does depend on the context.
00:12:33.540 So Ralph Northam with the KKK and the black, now that, again, clearly that's extremely racist.
00:12:39.320 But I would argue that that is a little different from even the Trudeau thing where he's wearing the blackface to be Aladdin.
00:12:48.520 You know, again, stupid, hypocritical.
00:12:53.640 That's the main thing.
00:12:54.360 We're going to get back to that.
00:12:55.500 Okay.
00:12:55.760 The main thing, hypocritical.
00:12:56.920 It's a lot of things, a lot of ways you could describe it.
00:12:59.260 Not a smart move.
00:13:01.660 Racist.
00:13:02.020 No, I don't really think it's racist.
00:13:05.500 In fact, wait a second.
00:13:08.120 I seem to remember somebody making this exact argument not too long ago.
00:13:14.740 But, yeah, well, let's go back and listen to this from about a year ago.
00:13:19.380 A year ago.
00:13:19.920 Listen.
00:13:20.380 There was a controversy on the Real Housewives of New York with Luann.
00:13:23.300 And she dresses Diana Ross.
00:13:25.200 And she made her skin look darker than it really is. 0.97
00:13:27.620 And people said that that was racist.
00:13:29.860 And I don't know.
00:13:30.460 I felt like, who doesn't love Diana Ross?
00:13:32.600 She wants to look like Diana Ross for one day. 0.97
00:13:34.900 I don't know how, like, that got racist on Halloween.
00:13:38.080 Remember, Megyn Kelly got fired for that. 1.00
00:13:41.620 Well, you just saw, she got fired for saying that. 0.99
00:13:45.220 She made that argument.
00:13:46.780 And a huge outrage ensued.
00:13:48.600 Huge, massive outrage.
00:13:50.160 A much bigger outrage than what is happening right now to Trudeau or what happened to Northam.
00:13:54.780 Okay, so Megyn Kelly simply talked about blackface. 1.00
00:13:58.740 She offered a defense of it in certain contexts.
00:14:03.980 Making a totally logical argument.
00:14:06.180 Saying, look, if it's meant to be a tribute, it's not racist.
00:14:08.960 She wasn't saying, I've done it myself or I would do it.
00:14:11.340 But, no, I don't think it's racist.
00:14:13.160 She was fired for that. 1.00
00:14:14.500 Remember, that was like a two-week news cycle of people upset about that.
00:14:20.140 And yet, Trudeau actually wears the makeup himself.
00:14:23.780 Northam actually wore the makeup.
00:14:26.240 Northam still has a job.
00:14:27.920 Trudeau probably, for right now anyway, will still have his job.
00:14:33.440 I don't think he's going to step down or resign or anything.
00:14:35.780 So here's my thing.
00:14:36.560 And it goes back to what we talked about yesterday.
00:14:41.180 Objectively, I think that this is not or shouldn't be much of a scandal.
00:14:47.560 Objectively speaking.
00:14:48.820 Because, personally, I don't give a crap what costume you wore 20 years ago.
00:14:52.480 I don't care what costume you wore last week.
00:14:54.760 I just don't really care.
00:14:56.940 Okay?
00:14:57.080 And, you know, as someone of Irish descent, if somebody, if there was a costume of someone
00:15:03.320 dressing up like a drunken Irish leprechaun or something, it wouldn't bother me at all
00:15:07.960 in the slightest.
00:15:08.680 I don't care.
00:15:09.360 You go back years and years ago, who cares?
00:15:13.760 What does it matter?
00:15:14.980 But at the same time, on the other hand, and here's the rub.
00:15:21.200 Think about the argument that the left makes about Republicans who, for example, get caught
00:15:28.200 in affairs, like Mark Sanford, or Republicans like Larry Craig, who end up being closeted homosexuals 1.00
00:15:35.380 soliciting gay sex in a bathroom, like Larry Craig did.
00:15:38.040 What do they say about that?
00:15:40.040 Well, they say it's not really a scandal.
00:15:43.460 This is, from their perspective, this is what they say.
00:15:46.220 Not really, you know, objectively, not really a scandal.
00:15:48.760 Not a big deal.
00:15:49.620 If someone's gay, you know, objectively, not a problem.
00:15:53.040 Even if someone has an affair.
00:15:54.860 Well, that's their business.
00:15:57.220 It's not anyone else's business.
00:15:58.260 Who cares?
00:15:59.860 But, they'll say, these Republicans, their whole brand is family values, Christian values.
00:16:06.120 They're the ones who go around talking about that stuff all the time.
00:16:09.480 They're the ones who, from their perspective, throw it in your face, so on and so forth,
00:16:13.460 et cetera, et cetera.
00:16:14.640 So, it's a scandal for them because of the hypocrisy.
00:16:19.620 That's the argument.
00:16:20.880 And I think the same kind of thing applies in the other direction with this blackface stuff, 1.00
00:16:25.060 or any other example of racial insensitivity among liberals.
00:16:29.140 Their political brand, Justin Trudeau's political brand, is all about being progressive.
00:16:34.680 It's all about being racially enlightened, et cetera.
00:16:36.980 Their whole MO is to go around accusing everyone else of being racist for the slightest little thing.
00:16:44.100 So, that's what makes it a scandal.
00:16:46.140 It's the extreme hypocrisy of it.
00:16:48.960 This is a hypocrisy scandal.
00:16:50.340 Just like, again, the liberals would say, an affair from a socially conservative Christian or, you know,
00:16:57.120 turns out that he's gay or whatever, that is a hypocrisy scandal. 0.68
00:17:01.540 It's not even, it's not a sex scandal.
00:17:03.120 It's a hypocrisy scandal.
00:17:04.320 Well, I would say the same, it's the same thing here.
00:17:07.380 It's not really a blackface scandal.
00:17:09.580 This is an hypocrisy scandal.
00:17:13.080 Again, personally, I don't give a damn what costume anyone wore 20 years ago.
00:17:16.640 But, my lord, the audacity, the sheer audacity to go around screaming racist at everything that moves
00:17:25.140 while you know you have this in your background, that's what gets me.
00:17:30.020 And that's why Trudeau deserves to be pilloried over this.
00:17:35.400 You know, and that's why I think I could say, look, if there was some,
00:17:41.000 if you take someone who is not in the habit of calling everybody racist and takes a more reasoned
00:17:49.920 approach on those sorts of things, and then it turns out that they, 20 years ago, were wearing
00:17:57.180 a blackface costume, I would say in the case of that person, politics aside, no matter what 0.81
00:18:01.440 political party they're affiliated with, who cares?
00:18:04.920 Okay, because there's no hypocrisy there.
00:18:06.340 If they're the ones out there saying, look, people do insensitive things sometimes, and
00:18:11.800 let's not try, if that's the argument they make, then it seems perfectly fair to apply
00:18:17.720 that argument to them and say, not much of a scandal.
00:18:20.480 But if you've got someone who is constantly trying to whip the outrage mob up against others
00:18:27.180 and calling everything racist, well, then I think you've got an issue of hypocrisy.
00:18:36.340 And maybe that's how we thread the needle.
00:18:38.040 We talked about this yesterday in regards to a different, it was a New York Times editor
00:18:42.900 who in the past had sent racially insensitive tweets, racist tweets.
00:18:49.800 According to the left, they would normally call them racist tweets.
00:18:55.240 And this is someone, New York Times, liberal, this is someone who had been retweeting things
00:19:00.380 in agreement with getting rid of the SNL guy because of the comments he made about Asians.
00:19:07.340 So she was participating in cancel culture, and it turns out that she's done similar things
00:19:13.780 herself.
00:19:14.980 And so we talked about that yesterday.
00:19:16.120 And there is, the argument among conservatives now these days is, well, what do we do?
00:19:22.100 Because we usually argue that cancel culture is BS, and to try to dig up dirt on people,
00:19:28.860 hold things, freak out about jokes or things they said a long time ago to try to throw that
00:19:34.640 against them, call everybody racist.
00:19:36.220 We're the ones normally arguing against that.
00:19:37.960 But do we put that to the side, though, when the liberals in the crosshairs and say, you
00:19:43.860 know what, fine, give them a taste of their own medicine?
00:19:46.940 Now, the argument I made yesterday is we have to have a consistent standard.
00:19:51.520 And so if we have an argument against cancel culture, and if we're the ones saying, you
00:19:56.600 know, let's be reasonable, someone said something or did something offensive a long time ago,
00:20:00.960 that doesn't mean we need to destroy their life now.
00:20:03.140 If that's our argument, we can't all of a sudden put that to the side when it concerns
00:20:07.480 a liberal.
00:20:08.960 But maybe this is how we thread the needle, where we simply say, you know, with these
00:20:15.640 kinds of things, it's an issue of hypocrisy.
00:20:19.500 And we still have the same standard.
00:20:21.880 No, we don't think that this is a big deal.
00:20:25.120 But you do on the left.
00:20:26.980 The left is the one, they're the ones who say this is a big deal.
00:20:32.600 And so you should have to live up to your own standards.
00:20:36.760 So I think that's what we would say to Justin Trudeau, that these are your standards.
00:20:43.300 By your standards, that stuff is extremely racist and unforgivable.
00:20:49.800 That's by your standards as a far left wacko.
00:20:52.600 So you should live up to your own standards, not ours, yours.
00:20:58.760 The right thing for you to do by your own standards will be to resign in disgrace.
00:21:02.180 And live the rest of your life in, you know, begging for repentance, because that's what
00:21:08.760 you would expect of a conservative.
00:21:11.380 I think everybody has to live by the standards that they set for other people.
00:21:19.980 And I don't think it's a double standard for us to simply point that out.
00:21:23.540 What would be a double standard, though, is if we pretended all of a sudden that we actually
00:21:31.940 thought this was a big deal ourselves and that it's automatically racist and all that.
00:21:36.360 All jokes aside, I know I said it at the beginning, but all jokes aside, that's not what I'm saying.
00:21:40.740 I'm saying live by your own standards.
00:21:43.160 Live by your own rules.
00:21:44.100 It's called having integrity.
00:21:48.840 All right.
00:21:50.400 So there's Justin Trudeau.
00:21:52.060 Let's let's move on to something else here.
00:21:54.040 The media this week is is trumpeting a study that makes a rather shocking claim.
00:22:01.140 And I want to talk about this.
00:22:02.700 The claim is maybe you've seen this study floating around or articles about it.
00:22:06.660 The claim is that one in every 16 women say that their first sexual experience was rape.
00:22:12.480 Now, one in every 16 women between the ages of 18 and 44 say that their first time, you
00:22:22.540 know, they had a sexual experience, it was rape.
00:22:24.360 Now, that is that's that is a shocking number.
00:22:27.360 That is extremely high.
00:22:29.640 NPR wrote did a write up on this, and they say that this is just the quote, the tip of the
00:22:34.680 iceberg.
00:22:36.460 That in fact, the one in 16 figure, which is over 6 percent of all women between the ages
00:22:41.460 of 18 and 44, that could even be an underestimate, we're assured.
00:22:46.300 Now, news reports of this study have, of course, tried to tie these revelations to the Me Too
00:22:51.420 movement and were meant to come away with the impression that America's chock full of rapists
00:22:56.600 and millions upon millions of women have fallen victim to the millions upon millions of predators
00:23:01.780 who are hiding around every corner.
00:23:03.660 That's the impression we're supposed to take away.
00:23:05.680 But you take a closer look at the data, and every time you see these these kinds of really
00:23:12.200 shocking, seemingly incredible statistics, especially around issues like sexual assault
00:23:18.540 and rape and everything, you got to take a closer look because, you know, there's no
00:23:23.420 reason to artificially inflate rape statistics. 1.00
00:23:26.820 Rape is horrible enough as it is already.
00:23:28.820 Already, it's far too common enough as it is already.
00:23:33.940 However, whatever the numbers are, however common it is, whatever the real percentage
00:23:38.140 is, it's too high.
00:23:39.460 We can all agree with that.
00:23:40.400 So there's no reason.
00:23:41.740 It's the same thing that the left does with mass shootings.
00:23:45.040 I would be the first to say, I think everyone would agree that mass shootings are too common.
00:23:49.080 They happen way too often.
00:23:50.320 Even one is too much.
00:23:51.860 It's a terrible tragedy.
00:23:53.420 You don't need to go and try to inflate it and say there are 200 mass shootings a year
00:23:57.340 or something like that.
00:23:58.100 There's not 200.
00:23:59.640 There's maybe, I don't know, there's these days, it seems like there's five, six, seven
00:24:04.100 a year, which is way too many.
00:24:07.440 Maybe more than that, but still, they feel the need to go and inflate the statistics,
00:24:12.420 and that's what they do with rape and sexual assault. 1.00
00:24:17.120 Now, here's the key portion of the NPR report about this study.
00:24:22.020 I'm going to read it to you.
00:24:22.740 It says about 6.5% of women, an estimated 3.3 million nationwide, said that their
00:24:27.900 first sexual experience was rape.
00:24:29.900 The average age of most victims was about 15 when they were assaulted.
00:24:33.040 The average age of their partner or the assailant was 27, Hawks notes.
00:24:36.740 Hawks is the primary author of this study that's being quoted.
00:24:41.200 This suggests a major power discrepancy and possibly a difference in physical size as well.
00:24:47.320 She says more than 26% said they were physically threatened during the encounter.
00:24:51.480 46% said they were physically held down.
00:24:53.480 Over half, 56% of them, said they were verbally pressured into having sex.
00:24:58.600 And 16% said that their partner threatened to end the relationship if they didn't have sex.
00:25:02.780 These forms of coercion were not mutually exclusive.
00:25:04.940 The definition of rape is, this is Hawks now again, she says,
00:25:08.600 the definition of rape is any sexual encounter that's unwanted or non-consensual.
00:25:14.860 And when a woman or girl is coerced into having sex that she doesn't want to have, 0.88
00:25:19.920 that is still considered a rape. 0.99
00:25:22.320 Now, there's quite a lot going on in these few paragraphs.
00:25:24.460 I want to break them down a little bit.
00:25:25.500 First of all, NPR misquotes the study's findings.
00:25:28.440 I went and read the study for myself.
00:25:29.860 They say the average age of most, quote-unquote, victims was actually,
00:25:33.800 they say it was 15 and the assailant was 27.
00:25:36.900 Well, actually, the study says the average age of most victims was 15 and a half, 15.6.
00:25:43.440 And the average age of the assailant, quote-unquote, was six years older.
00:25:49.000 So that would make the average age 21, not 27.
00:25:51.640 It's a significant difference.
00:25:53.380 More to the point, verbal pressure has been lumped together with physical force.
00:26:00.780 Dr. Hawks says any sexual encounter that's unwanted or non-consensual is rape.
00:26:09.260 Now, the or in the phrase unwanted or non-consensual makes it clear
00:26:14.340 that the sexual act could be in every sense consensual,
00:26:19.300 meaning both partners actively, affirmatively agree to participate in it.
00:26:24.100 And yet, it may still count as rape.
00:26:28.200 That's what we're being told.
00:26:29.860 This is obviously madness.
00:26:31.620 And it's not just this study.
00:26:32.900 This is what's happening now.
00:26:34.380 It's what's happening on college campuses.
00:26:35.860 It's what's happening, you know, this is what we hear from feminists. 1.00
00:26:39.260 That rape is not just non-consensual sex.
00:26:42.560 It's also unwanted sex.
00:26:44.460 And what they hope you do is you just, you just, you, you, you, you allow them to conflate
00:26:49.780 the two and you go away saying, oh yeah, sure.
00:26:52.580 Unwanted, non-consensual, same thing.
00:26:54.660 No, it's not.
00:26:57.160 Unwanted and non-consensual are two completely different things.
00:27:01.260 Now, it's true that if something is non-consensual, it's, it's, it's probably not unwanted, but
00:27:09.740 just because it's unwanted doesn't mean it's non-consensual.
00:27:13.160 Now, traditionally, uh, uh, traditionally, I guess we have to say traditionally now,
00:27:17.860 rape is something that hinges entirely on consent.
00:27:21.120 The department, the department of justice defines rape this way.
00:27:24.260 This is what the department of justice says.
00:27:25.920 The penetrate, the penetration, no matter how slight of the vagina or anus with any body 1.00
00:27:30.860 part or object or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person without the consent 0.92
00:27:35.760 of the victim.
00:27:36.400 I don't mean to get graphic there, but I think it's important to establish that this
00:27:41.300 is what, uh, this is what, you know, the federal government considers rape to be. 1.00
00:27:47.620 And I would agree, you know, that's rape. 0.97
00:27:50.480 And it is important that we keep these distinctions in mind.
00:27:56.960 Now, of course, we understand that verbal consent is not always legitimate consent.
00:28:03.640 So just because some, there is a verbal agreement, yes, I will do this.
00:28:10.260 That doesn't mean that it's really consent because somebody could be incapable of offering
00:28:16.200 full consent.
00:28:16.940 That's why, you know, um, that's what state, that's what statutory rape is all about. 1.00
00:28:21.040 Um, uh, a, a minor, a child is not capable of consenting no matter, no matter what they say,
00:28:27.640 not capable of offering full consent because they lack the psychological and emotional faculties
00:28:32.960 to make that sort of decision.
00:28:34.580 Um, and for a similar reason, you can't get consent from a woman by drugging them, by slipping 0.99
00:28:41.040 a roofie or whatever, uh, that is non-consensual because you have drugged them.
00:28:46.560 You have removed their ability to, to, to knowingly and, and, and, uh, with full understanding
00:28:52.680 consent to, to do, uh, whatever, whatever it is.
00:28:56.000 That's one of the reasons why unwanted cannot enter into the definition of rape because rapists 1.00
00:29:04.080 themselves could try to use this and sometimes do try to use it as an excuse, as a defense
00:29:10.220 by arguing that the victim really wanted it.
00:29:14.680 And we say, no way, because the only question we need to ask is this, did you have sex with
00:29:22.260 somebody who did not or could not consent?
00:29:25.940 If so, you're a rapist.
00:29:28.520 If not, you're not.
00:29:32.720 Um, now that doesn't mean, so here's, here's, here's the problem, the issue.
00:29:40.180 Um, there are many different sort of categories of sex.
00:29:45.340 The problem on, uh, in our culture now is that what we want to say is the only kind of
00:29:52.940 immoral sexual activity is non-consensual.
00:29:57.420 Everything else is moral.
00:29:59.180 We only allow for two moral categories of, of sexes, you know, non-consensual equals immoral 1.00
00:30:06.020 consensual equals moral.
00:30:07.620 Now we can all agree that non-consensual does equal immoral.
00:30:10.940 All non-consensual sex is obviously immoral.
00:30:13.340 But what I would argue is that there are forms, there are forms of consensual sex that are
00:30:19.340 also immoral.
00:30:23.140 And, but we've removed that.
00:30:26.400 And so we don't have the language anymore to condemn some forms of immoral sex. 0.86
00:30:33.740 We don't have the language for it.
00:30:34.980 So instead we try to find a way to say, oh no, that's actually not consensual or, or, or
00:30:38.900 that actually is rape. 1.00
00:30:39.740 So for example, they, they use the example of, um, of, uh, a man who pressures a woman
00:30:47.980 to have sex by threatening to end the relationship.
00:30:50.580 Now that's wrong.
00:30:52.200 That's immoral.
00:30:53.440 A guy that does that at a minimum is a jerk.
00:30:56.740 He's not a rapist though.
00:30:58.020 Because the woman, if she, if she is a mentally competent adult, she can make her own choice.
00:31:05.400 She's not being forced to do anything.
00:31:07.020 If she's being forced either physically or through a physical threat of some kind, then
00:31:11.500 that is rape. 1.00
00:31:12.060 Then that's, that's, she's not consenting.
00:31:14.180 She, she doesn't really have a choice.
00:31:16.280 Um, but if the man is just trying to emotionally, you know, say, I'm going to, and there's no force
00:31:22.300 or anything, she could choose to do it or not.
00:31:24.180 And if she chooses to do it, she could terminate the act at any time.
00:31:28.480 She could walk out of there at any time and she should walk out.
00:31:32.940 Her situation, however unpleasant it may be, cannot be compared to a woman who is physically 1.00
00:31:38.560 held down against her will and violated.
00:31:41.200 Those are two different things.
00:31:42.460 But what I would say about that second woman who has a choice, but it's being pressured. 1.00
00:31:47.480 No, she's not being raped.
00:31:49.420 It is immoral though, because the man is not respecting her.
00:31:54.960 And this is a, this is too, this is selfish on his part.
00:31:58.900 So there are a lot of things, ways we could describe it and say it's immoral.
00:32:02.320 But again, the problem is in our culture, we don't have the language anymore to call consensual
00:32:08.580 forms of sex immoral because we say, as long as there's two consenting adults, it's all
00:32:14.240 moral, it's all fine, go for it.
00:32:17.120 And then when we come across these kinds of consensual sexual activities that are clearly
00:32:21.840 still immoral, since we don't have the language, we say, oh, okay, there must be some way in
00:32:27.000 which it's actually not consensual, even though it is.
00:32:29.440 Um, and this, this new definition of rape though, it doesn't just make everyday jerks
00:32:38.860 and bad boyfriends into rapists.
00:32:40.800 It would turn any man who has ever used any form of persuasion, flattery, sweet talk, whatever
00:32:48.200 into a sex criminal.
00:32:50.460 I mean, arguably any, any man who's ever hit on a woman is now a rapist because that's a
00:32:56.880 form of sort of persuading her.
00:33:00.240 Um, in all of those cases, it could be argued that the woman didn't really want to, wasn't 0.66
00:33:04.760 really into it and thus was raped.
00:33:07.880 Any wife that has ever had begrudging or unenthusiastic sex with her husband, not because she was forced,
00:33:16.100 but just because she doesn't want to, he wants to, so she doesn't.
00:33:20.700 According to Dr. Hawks and this study and much of the media, she's now a sexual assault 1.00
00:33:26.960 survivor.
00:33:27.500 She has been raped by her husband.
00:33:30.360 Now, I think Dr. Hawks is right that by this definition, the actual percentage of quote unquote
00:33:35.260 rape victims is way, way, way higher than 6%. 0.90
00:33:39.820 Um, and that's sort of the point, you know, because what we're, what they're really telling
00:33:45.820 us is no, you know, 6% of right now, the actual percentage is 95 or something.
00:33:53.100 They, they are turning pretty much every woman who has been in a sexual relationship into
00:34:00.840 a rape victim.
00:34:03.480 Now, to make matters worse, the standard is inconsistently applied because if a man who
00:34:11.060 convinces a woman to have sex is a rapist, what about a woman who seduces a man? 0.83
00:34:17.560 That does happen.
00:34:19.100 That's a thing.
00:34:20.980 And in fact, I think feminists would, would not deny that, right? 1.00
00:34:23.900 Women are, are, are empowered, independent and, and, and, you know, they, they have their 0.99
00:34:28.680 own sexual power.
00:34:30.420 And, uh, and, and so sometimes they, they want to have sex with a man.
00:34:34.140 It's not just always the man initiating it, right?
00:34:35.960 Isn't this, isn't that what feminists would, would agree with? 1.00
00:34:37.960 So what about a woman who takes charge of the situation? 1.00
00:34:42.780 She finds a man that she desires and, um, and, and does her own form of convincing.
00:34:49.220 Is she not now a rapist? 1.00
00:34:52.960 What about men who, who weren't as into it as the woman that, that, that does happen.
00:35:00.680 What about a man who wakes up the next day and regrets it?
00:35:02.820 That happens too.
00:35:03.640 Despite what we're told that this is not just a, a, a woman, a phenomenon that women experience.
00:35:13.500 Um, aren't, so should they all be rape victims?
00:35:19.600 What about, what about, uh, strippers who are coaxing money out of men's pockets now? 1.00
00:35:23.880 Are they, are they rapists?
00:35:26.760 Prostitutes strutting on the street corner? 1.00
00:35:30.080 Rapists?
00:35:30.520 I mean, isn't any woman who uses emotional pressure, pressure of any kind to extract any
00:35:37.160 concession or compromise out of a man now, now essentially guilty of assault.
00:35:41.320 Now it's true that men can be manipulative and getting what they want out of a relationship.
00:35:45.060 It's also true that what a man wants out of a relationship oftentimes is sex.
00:35:49.340 Okay.
00:35:49.580 That's a reality of, of, of men, but women, uh, to put it mildly here. 0.95
00:35:55.020 Um, women have been known to employ their own forms of manipulation, particularly emotional 1.00
00:36:03.240 manipulation to achieve their own ends in relationships.
00:36:06.820 That is definitely a thing that happens.
00:36:10.000 So if the man is a rapist, then so is she.
00:36:14.920 Coercion, pressure, manipulation is far from a one-way street.
00:36:19.100 As anyone familiar with male female relationships knows now, and this is all to say nothing of
00:36:27.600 pressure and coercion in other contexts by this standard, isn't any effective salesman who
00:36:32.720 convinces, um, convinces somebody to, to, to buy something they don't really want.
00:36:37.780 Isn't he now a thief?
00:36:38.940 What about a homeless person who, who, who's, who's, who guilt trips people out of, out of,
00:36:44.580 uh, out of their pocket change?
00:36:45.780 Is he now guilty of robbery?
00:36:49.220 Isn't persuasion of all kinds in all contexts problematic at best and violent assault at worst?
00:36:59.600 See, this is what happens when coherent definitions are broadened into these ambiguous, incoherent,
00:37:06.620 all encompassing concepts.
00:37:09.140 So rape went from the definition that the department of defense provides or the department of justice,
00:37:14.960 uh, you know, very specific, um, uh, very clear thing.
00:37:21.400 We all know what it is.
00:37:23.540 It went from that to this broad sort of concept that just, that just stretches and covers almost
00:37:31.660 all forms of sexual activity after a while.
00:37:36.620 And what happens when you do that?
00:37:39.000 After a while, everyone is a rapist.
00:37:41.440 Everyone's a rape victim.
00:37:43.080 The word no longer means anything.
00:37:45.400 And there are many problems that come from that.
00:37:48.060 Uh, one of them is, and this is a, not a small problem, is that the real victims, the real
00:37:53.320 rape victims of which there are many are left high and dry because they have been lumped in
00:38:02.020 with all of this stuff and they get lost in the shuffle and they're being told that their
00:38:10.600 experience of being physically forced, of being physically by force violated, that awful,
00:38:21.660 traumatic, unimaginable, um, uh, experience.
00:38:27.880 They're being told is equal to a woman who has begrudging sex with her husband.
00:38:34.040 That is not fair to the real victims.
00:38:35.940 That is horrendously, uh, unfair.
00:38:41.480 All right.
00:38:42.220 Let's move on.
00:38:44.580 Um, one other thing to mention before we get to emails.
00:38:50.920 Let's see here.
00:38:51.760 Uh, so NBC now, if you go to their website, you'll have an opportunity to confess your sins,
00:38:59.800 um, to repent, to repent and be saved.
00:39:03.480 Uh, NBC has a place for you to go and, uh, uh, to anonymously confess your climate sins.
00:39:10.420 I'm not making this up.
00:39:11.620 This is real.
00:39:12.360 So remember yesterday we talked about that seminary, the union theological seminary in
00:39:17.040 New York, where people were confessing their sins to plants, sitting there literally talking
00:39:22.480 to plants, confessing their sins.
00:39:24.080 Well, here they are.
00:39:25.380 Now, now you have a, uh, an opportunity to confess to a website about what you've done
00:39:30.760 to plants.
00:39:31.420 So if it's too awkward for you to confess to plants about what you've done to plants, then
00:39:36.000 you could always go to the website and anonymously confess it.
00:39:38.640 Um, here's a screenshot of the, uh, the page.
00:39:42.720 It says climate confessions, even those who care deeply about the planet's future can slip
00:39:47.360 up now and then tell us where do you fall short in preventing climate change?
00:39:51.240 Do you blast the AC, throw out half your lunch, grill a steak every week, share your
00:39:57.600 anonymous confession with NBC news.
00:39:59.680 Now, and I'll, I'll show you this.
00:40:02.540 I did, um, it's very, it's difficult for me to talk about.
00:40:05.680 Um, but I did offer my own confession.
00:40:09.080 I wrote my own confession.
00:40:10.740 Um, I said, you know, I slaughtered a whole family of polar bears and then left my fridge
00:40:16.160 open.
00:40:16.440 So the meat went bad.
00:40:17.540 So I dumped it in the river.
00:40:18.960 I'm sorry.
00:40:19.620 And look, I know everyone's done that before.
00:40:23.720 It's one of those things.
00:40:24.600 We've all been there.
00:40:25.720 Uh, common mistake.
00:40:28.460 One of those sort of everyday slip ups where you say, oh man, I'm such a bonehead.
00:40:32.300 But honestly, I feel bad about it.
00:40:34.200 And it felt good.
00:40:35.340 I've been carrying this moral burden of, of, of, of a sin on my shoulders for so long.
00:40:40.440 It felt good to get it off my shoulder.
00:40:42.100 But I, and I would encourage everyone really to go to NBC news and, um, offer your own
00:40:47.320 similar sorts of confessions.
00:40:48.740 Just, just, just get it off your chest.
00:40:51.560 It feels so much better to be relieved of that burden.
00:40:57.960 All right.
00:40:58.500 We'll go to emails.
00:40:59.340 MattWallShow at gmail.com.
00:41:00.820 MattWallShow at gmail.com.
00:41:03.640 This is from Josiah says, greetings, supremely bearded, glorious one.
00:41:07.060 Whilst I greatly enjoy your show, I must run the risk of, uh, of, uh, uh, bringing on
00:41:12.080 your wrath to speak my truth.
00:41:14.680 The ending to your show is very peevish.
00:41:16.500 It doesn't make sense.
00:41:17.560 Every show you say, be sure to check out the other Daily Wire podcasts, including the,
00:41:21.600 the Ben, the Ben Shapiro show, the Michael Knowles show, and the Andrew Klavan show.
00:41:24.780 It makes absolutely no sense to say, including when you name all the shows will be like Anderson
00:41:29.920 Cooper telling you to check out the other Democrat candidates, including, and then proceed
00:41:33.160 to name every single one.
00:41:34.800 I bet you, um, I beg you to drop the including from all future shows and the future and the world
00:41:40.380 would just be a little bit better of a place.
00:41:42.360 We all need to do our part.
00:41:45.860 Okay.
00:41:47.300 Is there any more criticizing you want to do, Josiah?
00:41:49.940 Any more bullying?
00:41:52.200 You want to come and just slap me in the face?
00:41:54.100 Is there any more abuse you want to heap on me?
00:41:57.080 Because that's what I'm here for, apparently.
00:42:01.480 No, actually, I think including, you can say including and then list all of the things.
00:42:05.560 Uh, for example, if I were to go to McDonald's and say, what's included in the number one
00:42:16.020 value meal?
00:42:17.920 And I'm asking them, what are all of the things in the value meal?
00:42:21.920 And so they're going to say Big Mac fries and a soda.
00:42:24.780 If I said, what's included in the number one value meal?
00:42:27.100 And they said, uh, Big Mac and some other stuff.
00:42:29.980 I would say, no, I said, what's included in it?
00:42:32.180 Name me all the stuff.
00:42:33.200 So, Josiah, not only are you a bully, but you're wrong.
00:42:40.100 From Simon says, Arby's, Arby's tastes better than Chick-fil-A.
00:42:44.060 How can I ever believe a thing that comes out of your mouth again?
00:42:46.860 I got so many emails because I said that Arby's is better than Chick-fil-A.
00:42:49.820 I gave my argument, which is bulletproof.
00:42:51.960 Now, all these people who have sent me emails, again, bullying me because of what I said about
00:42:59.020 Arby's, none of them have even tried to present an argument.
00:43:02.680 Give me facts, Simon.
00:43:05.600 Give me facts and logic, evidence.
00:43:08.920 Do your research.
00:43:10.940 Don't just sit there and say, oh, no, Chick-fil-A is better than Arby's.
00:43:13.640 Why is it better?
00:43:15.540 Oh, because you feel like it is.
00:43:16.900 You like it more.
00:43:18.200 Not good enough.
00:43:19.060 I gave you my reasons.
00:43:21.460 I said very clearly that a chicken sandwich is good, but the ceiling on a chicken sandwich
00:43:30.760 is lower than the ceiling on a burger or a roast beef.
00:43:35.880 Beef is a better meat than chicken.
00:43:39.180 It is a superior meat to chicken.
00:43:42.100 Chicken can be pretty good.
00:43:44.440 Chicken cannot be great.
00:43:46.260 You see what I'm saying?
00:43:47.460 Beef can be great.
00:43:49.060 So that's why.
00:43:52.980 Yes, the restaurants that serve beef dishes, beef sandwiches, they have an advantage because
00:43:59.500 they simply chose the better meat.
00:44:02.700 A good roast beef sandwich.
00:44:05.600 You take a good roast beef sandwich and a good chicken sandwich.
00:44:09.120 Which one is better?
00:44:10.100 The roast beef because beef is better.
00:44:11.980 Do you understand now?
00:44:14.560 Are you really going to sit there and tell me?
00:44:16.700 If I go to Arby's and I get a roast beef sandwich with barbecue sauce and an onion ring on it and
00:44:23.960 I get the curly fries, okay, and I get a large soda, enough to give me a heart attack right
00:44:31.220 there on the spot.
00:44:32.080 You're going to tell me that that's not better than a chicken sandwich?
00:44:35.880 My God.
00:44:39.940 You people.
00:44:40.580 Finally, from John says, Matt, with Eli Manning getting benched, what are your thoughts on whether he belongs in the Hall of Fame?
00:44:49.080 Yeah, I've been arguing about this online.
00:44:51.180 This is how I spend my time.
00:44:52.380 Very good use of time.
00:44:54.080 Eli Manning, quarterback of the New York Giants.
00:44:57.020 Former quarterback now.
00:44:57.980 He's been benched.
00:44:58.920 And so now there's a conversation.
00:45:01.080 What is he, 38 years old?
00:45:02.640 Does he belong in the Hall of Fame?
00:45:03.720 I think, first of all, if he did not have the last name Manning, I don't think we'd even be talking about it.
00:45:08.180 I think, no, he doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame.
00:45:09.680 So there are two different questions.
00:45:11.980 Does he belong in the Hall of Fame?
00:45:13.940 And will he get into the Hall of Fame?
00:45:15.680 Now, those are two different questions, two different answers.
00:45:17.860 Will he get into the Hall of Fame?
00:45:18.840 Yes.
00:45:19.100 He'll get into the Hall of Fame because he has the last name Manning.
00:45:21.020 And because the Hall of Fame is sort of bogus now, it's become more of the Hall of Pretty Good.
00:45:27.380 So any player who plays for a long time and is pretty good gets it into the Hall of Fame.
00:45:31.620 And so the Hall of Fame is almost meaningless now.
00:45:33.980 What the Hall of Fame is supposed to be is a place to commemorate and remember and honor the all-time great talents.
00:45:43.880 Generational, transformative talents.
00:45:46.660 Those are the people who are supposed to make it into the Hall of Fame.
00:45:54.100 Eli Manning is not that.
00:45:55.960 You look at Eli Manning's stats.
00:45:57.120 His stats are pedestrian at best.
00:45:59.240 Whether you're looking at his QBR, you're looking at career completion percentage, career yards, TD versus INT ratio.
00:46:11.640 He's got, what, like 240-some interceptions.
00:46:16.900 His win-loss percentage is exactly 500.
00:46:21.400 The only thing he's got going, he's got Manning and he's got two Super Bowl rings.
00:46:26.100 But Super Bowl ring, look, a Super Bowl ring, Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring.
00:46:30.060 Joe Flacco has a Super Bowl ring.
00:46:34.540 Quarterbacks don't win Super Bowls by themselves.
00:46:36.480 They've got a defense.
00:46:37.340 They've got a whole other offense.
00:46:38.880 They've got an offense around them.
00:46:40.360 So Eli Manning, yeah, he won a couple of Super Bowls.
00:46:45.740 Good for him.
00:46:46.260 He didn't do it by himself.
00:46:47.060 Not even close to that.
00:46:48.460 He didn't even do it primarily by himself.
00:46:53.260 To beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl, the first thing that needs to happen is the defense needs to slow down Tom Brady.
00:47:00.940 If they've done that, that's already more than half of the job done without the quarterback even throwing a single pass.
00:47:07.060 So I don't think on the strength of that he makes, he should make it to the Hall of Fame.
00:47:11.740 I think you have to look at him individually.
00:47:13.660 How good was he?
00:47:15.800 What did he achieve?
00:47:17.500 You have to look at his individual stats and they are pedestrian.
00:47:19.800 They're not very good.
00:47:20.520 So Eli Manning has, for most of his career, been pretty decent.
00:47:27.180 He's flashed moments of greatness.
00:47:29.240 And then for the last few years, he's been really, really bad.
00:47:33.340 And I just think that trajectory does not justify the Hall of Fame.
00:47:36.660 If it did again, Joe Flacco should be in the Hall of Fame.
00:47:38.980 Joe Flacco has been, you know, for much of his career, he's been okay.
00:47:43.700 He had a brilliant Super Bowl run in 2012.
00:47:47.000 Maybe the best postseason run statistically of any quarterback ever.
00:47:51.500 He was brilliant.
00:47:52.300 He was great.
00:47:52.920 That's how he got paid $120 million at the end of that season.
00:47:56.180 And recently, he's been bad.
00:47:58.860 So it's a similar kind of trajectory.
00:48:00.400 If Eli Manning makes it in, Joe Flacco makes it in.
00:48:02.140 I mean, just let everybody in.
00:48:03.540 Open the doors and let everybody in the Hall of Fame.
00:48:06.240 Let me in.
00:48:07.920 Maybe I should be in the Hall of Fame.
00:48:11.140 All right.
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