The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 339 - Cancel Culture Is A Cancer

00:00:00.460 Wow. Well, this is incredible, folks. This is really, this is something else. The transcript

00:00:07.200 of Trump's call with the Ukrainian president has finally been released, as I'm sure you've heard.

00:00:11.780 But I don't know if you've read this whole thing yet. It is damning. Wow. Trump is finished.

00:00:21.200 Okay. He's done. Toast. Now, I want to read for you. I'm not going to read the whole transcript,

00:00:27.480 but there's one part that I think, I'm not an expert, but for me, this is the key part. It's a

00:00:33.680 little bit subtle. It's hard to pick up on, but there's one exchange in the entire conversation

00:00:42.880 that, to me, I read it and I say, this is a real problem. So let me read this part to you.

00:00:50.880 Stunning. This is absolutely stunning. Okay. Trump, I'd like to do an illegal deal with you.

00:00:57.760 Zelensky. Illegal, you say? Trump. Yes. I'd like to work out a totally criminal illegal arrangement.

00:01:06.540 Zelensky. Is this for your personal political gain? Now listen to this part. Trump responds. Yes,

00:01:13.980 it is. It is for my personal political gain. It is not in the nation's interests. It is in my own.

00:01:21.000 Again, I stress the illegal nature of all of this. Zelensky. Okay. I'm game. Let's do the illegal

00:01:27.960 stuff. Trump. Great. Sounds good. Wow. They got him. Ladies and gentlemen, they got him. That's,

00:01:36.280 I don't know if you picked up on that, but, uh, you know, the part where he talks about,

00:01:40.780 we're going to do illegal stuff. That to me is an indication that they're planning on doing illegal

00:01:46.340 stuff. And, uh, and that could really be a problem. Wait, actually, I'm sorry. That's okay. Let me just

00:01:54.460 a brief editor's note here. Okay. That actually was not the transcript. I apologize. That was a

00:02:00.600 transcript that I just made up off the top of my head. Um, so innocent mistake. Sometimes I make up

00:02:05.720 transcripts by accident. I don't know. I just, it, it, it, we all, we all do that sometimes. It's just,

00:02:09.480 it's, it's slip of the tongue. The real transcript was though released today. And actually after all

00:02:18.000 this buildup, the real one, the anonymous claim that, you know, Trump offered a quid pro quo to the

00:02:24.400 Ukrainian president in exchange for dirt on Biden, or that he threatened to withhold aid or, or, or

00:02:28.940 whatever else, the Democrats even beginning impeachment proceedings beforehand, just based on

00:02:33.460 the anonymous reports. After all of that, the transcript comes out and it's just a total nothing.

00:02:42.680 Actually, it is a big fat nothing. It actually makes Trump look good. If anything, if anything,

00:02:50.660 I think it makes him look good because what it documents is a friendly, cordial call between two

00:02:56.260 world leaders. Um, Trump is pretty professional conduct, conducts himself reasonably well. He comes

00:03:02.860 off, here's what I'll say. He comes off way better in the call than he does on Twitter. And so I think

00:03:09.820 the, the normal, the average normal person who reads the transcript, that's, what's going to jump

00:03:14.700 out at them. That's what they're going to think. They're going to say, Oh, okay. Hmm. All right. Well,

00:03:20.200 all right. That's going to be the reaction from average normal people.

00:03:24.000 And yeah, the pundit class, the, the political class folks in DC, they're going to read it there

00:03:31.880 and they're doing it now. And they've been doing it all day, parsing it and finding this in that

00:03:36.060 red flag and so on and, and try, but certainly from a political perspective and how this plays with the

00:03:43.720 voters, I think the average person reads it and says, whatever. And I actually, I think I'm a pretty

00:03:52.340 good barometer on, on this one because yeah, look, if you're a Trump sycophant, if you're a Trump

00:03:59.620 groupie, then it doesn't, it really didn't matter what the transcript said. You were going to be

00:04:04.340 honest. In fact, the transcript could have been the one that I made up and you would still say,

00:04:08.880 that's fine, whatever. Um, and on, on the other end of the spectrum, if you are a deranged Trump

00:04:15.100 hater, then it didn't matter what the, what the, what the transcript said. You were still going to say,

00:04:19.560 this is damning, let's impeach him. I, as you know, I'm, I'm neither of those things. Uh, I

00:04:26.440 wouldn't call myself a Trump fan. I wouldn't call myself a fan of any politician. Um, I'm also not

00:04:30.860 a deranged leftist, even if I am deranged, I'm not a leftist at least. And so I have no problem

00:04:36.560 criticizing Trump at all. I do it all the time. No problem with it. If this transcript really did

00:04:43.520 appear to be clearly wrong, illegal, inappropriate, whatever, I would say so. I have no problem saying

00:04:49.320 so. Uh, I didn't, you know, I didn't really go into this rooting one way or another. I didn't

00:04:54.900 really, whatever. The transcript says what it says. And, but I read it and, and I say, that's,

00:05:02.140 it's really nothing. And I think that's what most people are going to say. All he does in the call

00:05:08.120 is ask the president of Ukraine to, to look into illegal activity, some of which yes, involves

00:05:12.420 Joe Biden, but, but okay, then isn't that Joe Biden's fault for allegedly doing the illegal things

00:05:17.740 that involve Ukraine, which is why Ukraine is being asked to get involved in it or to investigate

00:05:25.380 it. There isn't a part in the call where Trump says, okay, do this for us and we'll do this for

00:05:35.940 you or do this for us. Or, and if you don't, we're going to have this or that consequence that

00:05:43.380 that's, that doesn't happen in the call. Um, if you want to look at this like a Rorschach test,

00:05:50.860 or if you want to get out your decoder glasses, look at the invisible ink, you can, I'm sure you

00:05:56.840 could find, oh no, this part here really is, it really is a quid pro quo. It's just, it's just,

00:06:00.840 it's just, he didn't say it. Sure. You can look at it that way if you want, but that's not how most

00:06:04.580 people are going to look at it. This, this isn't even the Mueller report, right? Where, where, uh,

00:06:11.440 sure with the Mueller report, they didn't nail Trump on explicitly illegal behavior like they 0.99

00:06:16.520 wanted to and like they thought they would, but he did certainly do and say a bunch of dumb 0.96

00:06:22.860 borderline stuff. There's no doubt about that. So it didn't really make him look good. It made 0.97

00:06:29.080 him look bad. The Mueller report made him look bad. Uh, the only reason why it worked out worse

00:06:32.760 for the Democrats is that they way overplayed their hand as they always do, but it didn't look,

00:06:37.060 make, make Trump look particularly good. It made him look bad. This wasn't even that.

00:06:42.300 I was, if I had to guess ahead of time, I would have, I would have guessed that it'd be something

00:06:47.220 Mueller report ish where, yeah, it's not, it's, it's not what the anonymous report said about

00:06:53.720 explicit quid pro quo. I know it wasn't going to be that, of course not, but, but, um, but yeah,

00:06:57.980 it'd be kind of a definitely inappropriate, makes you uncomfortable. It wasn't, it didn't even rise

00:07:04.840 to that level. So it just, it's incredible that the Democrats, it's incredible what they're doing.

00:07:13.240 They're going to get this guy reelected. They're really going to do it.

00:07:15.980 He should be, and I know if you're a big fan, you're not going to like this. You'll, you'll try

00:07:22.320 not to agree with it, but it is true that he should be really easy to beat because he leaves open so

00:07:29.160 many legitimate lines of attack. There are so many things about him and about the way he governs and

00:07:35.500 conducts himself, um, that a, a person could reasonably criticize. And if you're an opponent

00:07:43.220 of Trump and you point those things out, a lot of people, most people are going to agree with you.

00:07:48.140 They're going to say, yeah, that's true. I mean, a lot of the Twitter stuff is an example. We've

00:07:53.820 talked about this before. If you're a big Trump fan, you love the Twitter. Fine. Most people don't.

00:07:58.040 And so when the Democrats point out, oh, this guy's unhinged on Twitter. He runs his mouth

00:08:01.740 constantly. I mean, what does he have? Does he do anything but tweet? Uh, he, he, he shouldn't,

00:08:05.640 you know, he should be governing, not tweeting that whether you like those lines of attack or

00:08:09.500 not as a big Trump fan doesn't matter. Most people agree with that. And so that's an effective line

00:08:14.760 of attack. It's not the most important thing in the world, but it's effective because most people

00:08:20.060 agree. Most people don't like it. It annoys most people. So they could stick with that kind of thing.

00:08:26.700 Trying to paint Trump as a little bit unhinged, uh, uh, a little bit unbalanced. 0.98

00:08:31.960 Incompetent doesn't have control over his own white house. They could do all that. 0.99

00:08:35.660 They could even throw in the racist stuff. Now I don't agree with that. I don't think he is racist,

00:08:39.620 but, um, I think those lines of attack when played correctly and not overplayed can be effective.

00:08:49.180 Um, even if they're not true. So the Democrats could stick with all of that.

00:08:54.840 And meanwhile, stick with their, mostly just stick with their normal campaign talking points.

00:09:00.020 Um, and, uh, and, and they'd probably walk into a victory in 2020 without much trouble,

00:09:07.240 but they just, they can't help themselves. Even though Trump leaves open these legitimate lines

00:09:12.660 of attack, they always go for the worst, most illegitimate, shakiest lines of attack they can

00:09:18.840 possibly find because they still haven't figured this guy out after three years. Somehow Trump is not a

00:09:26.400 very complicated guy. Okay. Most I'm not either. Most guys aren't after three years,

00:09:33.120 they still haven't figured him out. They still want to make him out to be some sort of criminal

00:09:37.460 mastermind. He's not that. Okay. You opponents of Hillary Clinton could go that it's, that's what

00:09:44.540 Trump did with Clinton. And there was a lot of truth to it. And the Clintons really have been

00:09:50.120 overseeing a criminal enterprise for decades now. I don't know if I call them masterminds, but, uh,

00:09:55.580 but you know, they, they are as close, they were as close to that as you could get as a,

00:09:59.820 as, as a, as a modern American politician could really get. So that, yeah, that worked with them

00:10:05.520 because there was truth to it. And that's how the public sees them and find that's not Trump.

00:10:10.560 That's just not how he operates. That's not how people see him. It's not what he is,

00:10:16.000 but they, they just, they can't help themselves and they're going to get, it's, it is, uh,

00:10:25.040 really amazing. All right. You know what, but I'm not going to spend a lot more time on this

00:10:28.040 because it's, it's, what else is there to say? Uh, the transcript is what it is. And it, and that

00:10:32.860 is, it wasn't much. So what I really want to move on to is, um, let's talk about a story that

00:10:37.640 infuriates me. What I saw this last night, not the, not the transcript thing is totally. Now we're

00:10:43.900 on a different subject. I saw this last night and I was livid. Okay. I was, I was, I was tweeting

00:10:49.920 so angrily about it. I was just seething with my tweeting, angry tweeting. I was there with my phone

00:10:57.640 like, that's how I tweet. If you can imagine, um, you know, this guy, Carson King, King is a college

00:11:08.340 football fan. It went viral a few weeks ago because he had a funny sign that he was holding,

00:11:12.500 uh, high, which was highlighted, I guess, on an ESPN morning show, pregame show, uh, that is where,

00:11:18.560 where he had, uh, his Venmo information and he was asking people to send him beer money.

00:11:23.440 And that a bunch of people actually did send him beer money, which was a genius plan really,

00:11:27.180 because you figure, Hey, you put it on the sign and, uh, you know, many people are watching. And even

00:11:32.420 if everybody just, because it's funny, sends you a buck, you still get a lot of money out of it. And Hey,

00:11:36.900 why not? Um, so, uh, uh, you know, people were sending the guy money and then, and then the guy

00:11:43.840 decided, Carson King decided to donate the money. I don't know if all, all or most of it, uh, to a

00:11:50.620 children's hospital. Now I hope he took a little bit for himself and actually went and got himself

00:11:54.440 some beer because I think he deserved it. But, uh, but he gave, he, he gave the, the, at a minimum,

00:11:59.920 the lion, I don't know what the, he gave the money, uh, to a children's hospital and didn't have to do

00:12:06.640 that. That, that really is a incredible generosity. Actually. Um, I think most people, they come into a

00:12:17.400 windfall like that. They're going to keep the money for themselves. He says, I'm going to give it to a

00:12:21.380 children's hospital. Great story. This became a big viral story. King's a King is very popular now in Iowa

00:12:27.680 for good reason. Um, he's an Iowa football fan. And, uh, and then Anheuser-Busch, the, the, the beer,

00:12:35.560 uh, uh, uh, manufacturer, they decided to jump on the bandwagon and they started working with King to

00:12:42.100 raise money for the children's hospital. And it's a, it's a, again, a heartwarming story. It's just

00:12:46.540 great positive stuff. We don't have enough positive stories in America these days. It's the kind of story

00:12:51.440 where you read it and you go, Oh, that's really nice. That's cool. And then you move on, you know,

00:12:56.060 and then you move on with your life and, and that's it. Um, well, that's not what our intrepid

00:13:02.760 media does though. You and I, we see a nice story. We kind of smile and say, that's great.

00:13:09.200 And that, and that's all, and that's it. Our intrepid media, it's not what they do. No. Um,

00:13:17.180 that's not how they perceive this kind of thing. They see a guy, especially a white guy

00:13:21.400 getting positive attention. And they think to themselves, how can we destroy him?

00:13:29.260 Let's think of a way to destroy him because, because he is the proverbial blade of grab,

00:13:35.420 the tall blade of grass that is a, that is a reached out, peaked its head above the other 0.65

00:13:40.520 blades of grass. And so let's cut that one down to size. How can we take this great moment from him

00:13:46.920 and turn it into a nightmare? How can we ruin his life? That's how the media looks at it because

00:13:54.980 they are gutless, soulless vultures. And so somebody at the Des Moines Register, a reporter named Aaron

00:14:01.440 Calvin decided to go look through his Twitter history to see if they could dig up some racist tweets.

00:14:09.620 And sure enough, King, eight years ago when he was a sophomore in high school, supposedly tweeted a

00:14:16.120 couple of racist jokes. Though apparently they were, he was, not that it even matters, okay, but he

00:14:21.660 was referencing or quoting a Comedy Central show, Tosh.0. And, uh, but they went back eight years and

00:14:27.300 they found this. The reporter confronted King about the tweets. King apologized, then did a press

00:14:34.260 conference. This is where we are now. He had to do a press conference. This is just, this is just some

00:14:38.720 guy. I mean, this isn't a public figure. This is just a guy who we're talking about for a couple

00:14:43.120 of weeks because he, because he, because he did this funny stunt and now he's giving money to a

00:14:46.480 children's hospital. He's doing a press conference to address, to get in front of the story. I don't

00:14:51.100 blame him for doing it. I think it was smart. Um, he's trying to get in front of it. He does a press

00:14:56.840 conference. Next thing you know, Anheuser-Busch pulls out of their relationship with King and then the

00:15:01.840 register publishes the profile with the bit about the tweets. Now I want to, uh, I want to read for

00:15:10.140 you the part of the register story about the tweets and not because I want to embarrass King, but because

00:15:14.360 I want to embarrass the register. Uh, but it's important. I, here's the part. I think it's

00:15:19.520 important that we read this just to understand what they're doing here. So, uh, Aaron Calvin says,

00:15:26.780 a routine background check of King's social media revealed two racist jokes, one comparing black

00:15:32.320 mothers to gorillas and another making light of black people killed in the Holocaust. The joke 0.61

00:15:36.520 tweets date back, um, to 2012 when King was a 16 year old high school student. When asked about the

00:15:42.680 tweets, King was remorseful and thanked the register for pointing them out saying they made him sick.

00:15:47.620 He has since deleted them. That's not something that I'm proud of at all. He told the register

00:15:52.300 Tuesday evening. King spoke to local television stations about the now deleted tweets said,

00:15:56.440 I am embarrassed and stunned to reflect on what I thought was funny when I was 16 years old.

00:16:00.200 I want to sincerely apologize. Now we'll circle back to that in a second

00:16:04.860 because there's something there that's important, but we'll circle, we'll circle back to it just to

00:16:09.920 get the rest through the rest of the story here. Some industrious folks on Twitter went through,

00:16:14.140 um, decided to go through the reporter who used to work at Buzzfeed, by the way, big shocker.

00:16:21.360 They decided to go through the reporter, Aaron Calvin's Twitter history to see, to see what's going on

00:16:25.920 with him. And what do you know, they found all kinds of racial slurs and homophobic content,

00:16:30.180 content way more than he found on Carson King. They found way more on, on Aaron Calvin. So Calvin

00:16:36.300 shuts down his Twitter account, um, has to post an apology and he's facing intense, intense backlash

00:16:42.440 for the hit piece. People are calling for him to be fired. He should be fired. Um, in my opinion,

00:16:47.060 and not because of his old tweets, but because of this hit piece that he did for no reason on this

00:16:51.380 innocent guy. Um, and then the register published a note, a note from the editor last night, explaining

00:16:57.720 why they decided to, uh, try and humiliate this guy for no reason. And here's what they said. Uh,

00:17:03.760 this is the note from the editor trying to, you know, trying to tamp down the backlash and the

00:17:09.040 outrage, which is pretty significant. Um, uh, it says, uh, on Monday evening, register reporter,

00:17:16.920 Aaron Calvin was assigned to interview King for a profile on Tuesday, as he worked to write the

00:17:21.640 story, he did a, he did a routine background check. There's that phrase again on King that

00:17:26.960 included a review of publicly visible social media posts, a standard part of a reporter's work on a

00:17:31.880 profile. Calvin found two racist jokes that King had posted on Twitter in 2012. Calvin asked King

00:17:37.800 about them and he expressed deep regret that prompted a discussion involving several register

00:17:42.680 editors about how to best proceed. Should that material be included in the profile at all?

00:17:46.920 The jokes were highly inappropriate and were public posts. Shouldn't that be acknowledged to all

00:17:51.860 the people who had donated money to King's cause or were planning to do so? But the decision about

00:17:57.140 how to use this information was preempted when King held a news conference to discuss his tweets

00:18:01.500 and express his remorse. The news conference was covered by a local TV station, um, so on and so

00:18:06.100 forth. Reasonable people can look at the same set of facts and disagree on what merits publication,

00:18:10.380 but rest assured such decisions are not made lightly and are rooted in what is perceived as the public good.

00:18:16.920 Okay. So there's the story. Uh, a couple of things here. First of all, let's get one thing straight.

00:18:29.500 The routine background check line, which is in the editor's note and in the profile. So they

00:18:36.360 obviously thought that this is going to give them cover. It is utter horse crap. Okay. Why are you doing 1.00

00:18:44.080 a background check on someone who is raising money for a children's hospital? Is he applying for a job

00:18:51.120 at the FBI, a routine background check? And why would that routine involve searching through tweets

00:18:58.840 he posted almost a decade ago? Why is that part of the routine? This is a revealing way of framing it

00:19:06.720 though, because, because sure. Yeah. I believe that it is routine. I actually believe that,

00:19:10.720 but, um, it is routine then for the scavenging hacks in media to take anyone who's getting positive

00:19:20.560 attention and find a way to ruin them for clicks. That's the routine. And it's a bad routine. The

00:19:26.980 fact that it's a routine just makes it worse. What you're essentially saying is, yeah, we treated him

00:19:31.860 like this, but this is how we treat everybody. It's like if you catch two people gossiping

00:19:37.360 viciously about somebody else and you say, Hey, you know, you shouldn't gossip. And they say,

00:19:41.240 Oh no, no, no, no. This is fine. This is our routine. And I know this is what we do every day.

00:19:46.100 No, it's totally fine. I don't know. You don't understand. We get together every day and we,

00:19:49.960 and we, and we spread vicious rumors and say horrible things about people for fun. That's a total

00:19:55.140 routine. It's just a routine. Don't worry about it. Yeah. It's your routine. It's your routine

00:20:00.140 because you're a bad person. That's what it is, but you shouldn't be a bad person. You see,

00:20:06.700 that's the thing. I want you to really think about this. Think about what they did. Think

00:20:13.940 about the process here because you really, you have to imagine yourself as a fly on the wall

00:20:20.220 watching this, this, this process of a, of a background check, quote unquote, to really get

00:20:27.400 a feel for just how psychotic it is. So Carson King is in the news for giving money to sick kids.

00:20:33.780 Again, the only reason he's in the news because he had a funny sign and he gave money to kids.

00:20:40.060 That's it. Then Aaron Calvin and his editors decide to go and here's what they do. They,

00:20:46.340 they, and I guarantee this is how they did it. They did a keyword search. They went to King's

00:20:51.460 Twitter. They pulled up his Twitter, um, probably his Facebook too. Probably didn't find anything

00:20:56.240 there. That's why it didn't come out. Um, pull up his Twitter and they did a keyword search of

00:21:01.860 certain racial terms and words and phrases. They plug those in and it's a fishing expedition.

00:21:08.160 See if anything comes up and probably they tried a few different words. Nothing came up.

00:21:12.520 They kept trying until they got something and then they got it. And, uh, and then they publish it.

00:21:18.980 But who, who, who even thinks to do that? That's why I want you to really, because it,

00:21:24.540 I call it psychotic. It really is psychotic. Would you ever even think you see somebody in the news

00:21:29.820 for some heartwarming human interest story? Would it ever even occur to you to go to their Twitter

00:21:35.200 account and check to see if they said anything racist 10 years ago? Why, why would that ever occur to

00:21:41.580 you to do? The register's editor, Carol Hunter is her name, by the way. Um, yeah, she called this

00:21:49.160 the public good. Tell me exactly, precisely, Carol, how this helps the public good. How does it in any

00:21:58.880 way serve the public good by digging up old tweets from some guy who held a sign to raise money for

00:22:04.220 sick children? How does that serve the public good? Take me through the steps. Okay. Step one,

00:22:10.800 dig up dirt on random guy who did nice things for kids. Step two, fill in the blank. Step three,

00:22:18.640 public good. What happens in step two? How do you bridge that gap? Because I don't see the connection

00:22:24.360 between digging up dirt on this guy and public good. So something must happen in between so that

00:22:29.640 this translates into public good. Tell me, Carol, what's the public good?

00:22:36.660 Here's the thing. I don't give the slightest, tiniest, smallest little damn what Carson King 0.85

00:22:45.360 tweeted when he was 16. It doesn't matter. It could be the most racist thing you could ever possibly 0.94

00:22:52.420 imagine. It could be utterly horrible. It could be like, it could be like he could have pledged

00:22:58.200 allegiance to Hitler. He could have, he could have come out and endorsed slavery. Hey, slavery is

00:23:03.400 good, everybody. He could have done that. He didn't do that. To be clear, he didn't do that.

00:23:09.720 But I'm saying it could be that bad. It could be that offensive. And I would still say it is not

00:23:15.620 relevant at all. It is not newsworthy at all. And there's absolutely no reason to report it. None.

00:23:23.260 He's only in the news for doing a nice thing for a kid. He's not a public figure. He's not running

00:23:29.100 for office. He's not going to be Pope. Nothing. So nothing he said at 16, no matter what it is,

00:23:38.860 could possibly be relevant or newsworthy. It's impossible. I cannot stress this enough.

00:23:48.520 The problem here is not just that what they discovered is, you know, not a big deal or

00:23:59.880 whatever. And if he's, and in reality, you know, he was just referencing jokes made by a comedian

00:24:06.900 on TV. Even if they're inappropriate jokes, apparently that's what he was doing. So don't

00:24:12.560 blame him. If you're going to blame anyone, blame the comedian. But, but that I'm trying to stress,

00:24:18.940 that's not even the point. It's like, that doesn't matter. I've seen some people on Twitter and they,

00:24:23.980 and they mean well, but you know, they're trying to say, oh, they're, they're trying to defend it

00:24:28.920 based on the, no, it's, it does. None of that matters. Doesn't matter what he said. I don't care what

00:24:36.340 he said. Doesn't matter. Um, there, there is no reason to report it. It is not newsworthy.

00:24:46.940 There is no reason to have ever looked for it in the first place.

00:24:52.860 Carol, Carol says, oh, well, people might want to know, you know, this person who's a fundraising,

00:24:57.440 they might want to know what, why would anyone want to know that? You're telling me that if somebody

00:25:02.300 is, uh, is, is, is, is fundraising for sick children before you give to the cause, you want

00:25:09.920 to know what he said on Twitter when he was 16. Why? It, you know, when you, if you walk outside

00:25:17.680 the grocery store and there's a, there's, there's a group there fundraising for, uh, you know, I don't

00:25:22.040 know, they're a little league coach fundraising for, to, to, to, for, uh, uniforms for, for the little

00:25:29.660 league or whatever they do outside of Walmart and grocery stores, you know, when they guilt you

00:25:32.980 into giving them a, you know, your change or whatever. Um, but do you stop and say, hold on,

00:25:37.920 hold on a second. Uh, what's your Twitter handle? Would you say, okay, let me look it up here. Let's

00:25:41.400 get keyword search. Do you do that? Does it matter? Now, if you have reason to believe that they're not

00:25:51.020 really giving the money to the cause they say they're giving it to, then sure. Now that's an issue.

00:25:55.760 No, that's not the case here. No one's accusing Carson of that. This is insane. In a sane world.

00:26:05.060 Okay. We'd agree. We'd agree that really, and I really mean this, nothing you say, this is what,

00:26:13.180 in a sane world. And I just said, it's insane. We live in an insane world. So this is not the case,

00:26:17.140 but in a sane world, we would all agree that nothing you say before like the age of 20 matters.

00:26:23.220 Okay. Uh, because, because teenagers, uh, routinely say offensive, horrible, vulgar,

00:26:39.320 uh, outrageous, outlandish things. That's why they say it. That's the point. Do we all forget

00:26:46.200 what it's like to be a teenager? You say it for attention. You say it's because it's funny. You

00:26:51.240 say it because you're trying to impress your friends, whatever. None of those are good reasons,

00:26:54.440 but there's not a, there's not a good reason for 95% of the things that teenagers say and do because

00:26:59.120 they're teenagers. In a sane world, we would all recognize this in a sane world. We would say,

00:27:05.980 we would say, Oh geez, I, I don't want anyone to know the worst thing I said when I was 16.

00:27:10.580 I mean, are you kidding me? In a sane world, that's what we would say. It just, it does. I don't care.

00:27:17.680 In fact, he could even, he could be Pope. He could be the president. He could be running for office.

00:27:25.620 And if you came to me and said, Oh, guess what he said at 16? I would say, I don't even tell me.

00:27:28.920 I, it doesn't matter. He was 16.

00:27:30.480 Um, now what about what happened to this reporter Calvin with his own racist tweets being drudged up

00:27:42.840 in retaliation? Uh, well, I go back to, and I have to admit, I, I really enjoyed that. I, I gotta admit,

00:27:51.400 um, I did enjoy it. I, you know, maybe it's vindictive, I guess, but, uh, uh, man, that was

00:27:59.460 satisfying. It was. And, but I go back to what we've been talking about over the past few weeks.

00:28:06.400 It is perfectly fair and consistent in my view to hold a person to their own standard,

00:28:14.920 not your standard. Cal, uh, Aaron Calvin, this is his standard. He's the one who thinks that

00:28:24.800 what people said years ago on Twitter, jokes they made are relevant and that exposing those things

00:28:33.760 is for the public good. So really it's for his own sake. I mean, if, if, unless he's a total

00:28:38.800 hypocrite coward phony and he would, he couldn't possibly be that I wouldn't, I would never accuse 0.99

00:28:44.620 him of that. So really I, by giving the benefit of the doubt that he's sincere in that belief, 1.00

00:28:50.860 then, uh, then I think it's the right thing to go through his own Twitter and, and, and find these

00:28:55.820 things and give him the opportunity to apologize because, because again, he, he, he thinks that

00:28:59.820 this is relevant. I don't think it is, but he does. And so you pull it up and you say, oh, you know,

00:29:05.540 I mean, for your own sake, you said that this is relevant. So here's your stuff. You know,

00:29:09.140 you said this and that, this racist thing, this, here you go. I mean, did you want to apologize for that?

00:29:14.620 I, I, because look, I wouldn't want to deprive him of the opportunity to apologize. He's a big

00:29:20.600 fan of that, right? He's also a big fan of making people apologize for stuff they said a long time

00:29:24.400 ago. Um, and, uh, I'm sure he would love to, to, to be a part of that. I would really hate to. So

00:29:29.320 I think that's it. You know, you hold people to their own standard and I think that's what we need

00:29:34.060 to do while making it clear that it's not our standard. Um, but maybe, and this is, this is, if

00:29:50.740 you have an unreasonable, bad standard or principle that you have adopted or that you believe in,

00:30:01.220 it might be that the only way for you to discover how bad it is, is for you to be held to it,

00:30:08.880 is for you to experience its ramifications. And then maybe you'll go, oh, this is actually horrible.

00:30:16.380 And the rest of us can go exactly.

00:30:23.940 And I'll say one other thing. I believe a big problem in our society these days,

00:30:31.340 one of many is the lack of forgiveness. Um,

00:30:37.280 the lack of, of, of giving people a chance to redeem themselves.

00:30:45.120 And so I think if Aaron Calvin were to come out and apologize, I mean, apologize sincerely,

00:30:53.400 publicly, mainly to Carson King, uh, then I think the rest of us should say, okay, you know,

00:31:02.000 we forgive you. I mean, it's not really for us to forgive, but I'm sure Carson's a really decent

00:31:06.360 guy. He'll forgive you. And, uh, and, uh, and, and then we'll move on. So I believe in that.

00:31:14.620 Now the Des Moines register, uh, that's, that is a, a, a, a graciousness, a mercy, a grace that

00:31:20.800 they did not give to Carson King, because even if you believe somehow that these tweets that he

00:31:27.240 wrote eight years ago, nine years ago matter, well, they, they confronted him about it.

00:31:33.100 He apologized. They even admit he apologized. He was, he was, uh, uh, remorseful.

00:31:42.920 Um, that should have been enough. Then they should have said, oh, okay, well, you know what,

00:31:47.800 then we're not going to post it. We're not going to publish it. You know, this isn't about that.

00:31:51.260 We don't want to hurt you and we don't want to hurt your reputation. Uh, and you can tell that,

00:31:55.980 you know, obviously you've changed it unsurprisingly since you were 16. And so we're just

00:31:59.380 going to, we're going to put this to the side. Don't worry about it. That's what a graceful,

00:32:04.560 merciful person would have done. Well, a graceful, merciful person wouldn't have looked for the

00:32:07.460 stuff in the first place, but if you had it, that's, that would have been the right response,

00:32:11.440 but they didn't do that. Even after he apologized, they said, we're going to post it anyway.

00:32:18.000 My God, sociopaths, really?

00:32:20.780 All right. Let's go to emails. Matt Walsh show at gmail.com. Matt Walsh show at gmail.com. This 0.92

00:32:27.460 is from Ben. Uh, I want to start with this very important question says, hi, Matt,

00:32:31.440 are boneless wings acceptable? I personally prefer them over traditional bone in wings.

00:32:37.260 They're less messy to eat and you typically get more chicken per wing. Everyone acts like I'm a

00:32:41.380 terrible person when I order them. I figured I'd check with you. So I know whether or not I need to

00:32:45.180 flee the country when your theocratic dictatorship is established. Thanks. I'm a big fan of the show,

00:32:48.760 Ben. I think we all know that boneless wings are better, um, for all the reasons that you give,

00:32:55.160 you, you get more meat. It's easier to eat. Uh, so therefore you can eat more of them,

00:32:59.820 particularly when it's, it is an appetizer situation. And, uh, and you know, there's a

00:33:06.100 whole bunch of boneless wings at the center of the table for everybody. Well, uh, with, with boneless

00:33:10.260 wings, you can scarf them down real quick and then, and then get your grubby paws on even more

00:33:14.160 and hog more of the appetizer for yourself. So that's an advantage.

00:33:18.760 But you're a man, Ben, and men eat bone in wings, period. Men don't order born boneless wings. You

00:33:27.200 order the regular wings. Why? Just because boneless wings are for children and women. Why? Just because 0.97

00:33:35.880 I don't know. That's just how it is. They just are. There are a lot of things in life, Ben, that men have

00:33:42.200 to do that they don't want to do. It's part of being a man. And, and one of those things is choosing

00:33:46.220 bone in wings when you really want boneless wings. And that's all there is to it. Okay. This is,

00:33:51.920 this is, this, you know what it is? It's chivalry somehow. In some way it probably is.

00:34:00.580 From Elias says, supreme bearded overlord of the known universe and universe is yet unknown. You

00:34:05.160 mentioned a few days ago that if a man goes to the restroom and uses a urinal right next to another

00:34:08.440 man, when there are others open, it should be a criminal offense. I completely agree. However,

00:34:13.000 does this rule apply when there are dividers between the urinals or when you are at a ball game

00:34:16.860 in between innings? Would love your feedback. First of all, Elias, I stipulated the death penalty for

00:34:22.440 such offenders, just to be clear. This is not just a criminal penalty. This is the ultimate penalty,

00:34:26.700 which is well-deserved. And this was applying to people who choose the urinal right next to you

00:34:31.000 when there are other urinals available. And in those cases, dividers not going to save you.

00:34:36.380 There's just no good reason ever to choose that urinal right next to somebody else when they,

00:34:42.040 when there's somewhere else you could go in the bathroom. Now, what if there is no other

00:34:46.420 urinal available? Well, in that case, if it's me and I'm already occupying a urinal and the only

00:34:56.200 available one is right next to me, then you need to go find a sink, go outside and find a tree. I

00:35:01.620 don't know, take care of it somewhere else because I still don't want you right next to me. I need my

00:35:05.640 space. All right, let's go. Um, let's see here. Uh, let me tell you how much time I have. Cause I

00:35:16.340 had a big, well, this is one is from June says, hi, Matt, I love your show and your Twitter, but

00:35:20.180 I've noticed that you use the S word sometimes on Twitter. Why do you do this? It seems unnecessary

00:35:24.560 to me. Hi, June. Yeah, I guess I do. Well, to be, to be honest with you, um, and I hope I don't

00:35:31.980 scandalize my good Christian audience, but I, I, I, you know, I do like the word. It just,

00:35:37.620 it just fits sometimes, especially, you know, a well-timed bull S. I mean, BS just doesn't capture

00:35:44.420 it. You need that, you know, it's really that hard syllable at the end that you just need the it

00:35:49.420 at the end is what you need. And, and sometimes it just captures what you're trying to say better

00:35:54.720 than any other word. And, um, and you know, I really don't think it counts as a cuss word and

00:35:59.940 I feel pretty strongly about this because I feel strongly about a lot of dumb things. I, I really

00:36:05.220 don't, the, the S word, like, why is that? Who cares? Why is that a cuss word? The distinction

00:36:11.560 between that word and say crap or, or, or even stuff is arbitrary. It's not a profanity. Let's 0.87

00:36:20.580 be clear about that. It's not a profanity because it's not blaspheming anything sacred. That's what

00:36:24.580 a profanity is. Um, it doesn't take the Lord's name in vain. Uh, it's not a word that's scandalous

00:36:31.380 or anything. Um, it doesn't insult anyone. Uh, it, it, I mean, it's just a word that's come to take

00:36:37.420 on many different meanings, none of them terribly objectionable. And frankly, can I just say also

00:36:41.820 that, um, that when it comes to these, you know, sort of scatological words, I, I, I think that the

00:36:47.960 S word is way less offensive and gross than poop. To me, poop is, I don't even want to say it. That's 0.68

00:36:52.640 a gross word. That's disgusting because it sounds way too much like the thing it describes. And, um,

00:36:58.100 and so that's how I feel about that. All right. Um, now I'm going to awkwardly transition into a

00:37:04.580 deeply theological email from, from that because that's how we do things on the Matt Walsh show.

00:37:10.480 This is from, uh, Ethan says, hello, Mr. Walsh. My name is Ethan. I'd like to further discuss the

00:37:14.900 doctrine of election with you. The doctrine of the elect and the idea of once saved, always saved

00:37:20.740 has nothing to do with the nature of man, but the nature will power and actions of God. Many relevant

00:37:27.600 verses and the cited verses are available in their entirety at the end of this email.

00:37:31.020 The once saved, always saved doctrine is an extension of the doctrine of election,

00:37:35.760 also known as unconditional election. The doctrine of election has everything to do with God and

00:37:39.480 nothing to do with man. He draws us. He chooses us not the other way around as God gives us the

00:37:43.580 desire to be saved as well as the salvation that results from election and the actions that result

00:37:47.520 from that desire. If God truly chooses us, even if we stray during our lifetimes, we will return to

00:37:52.480 him before death. The book of the law of life has the names of the elect written in it since before the

00:37:57.380 world began, as seen as in Revelation 17, 8. So logically, if the names of the elect have been

00:38:01.800 written in the book of life since before any of us were even born and God controls whose names are

00:38:05.740 written in the book of life, then we cannot add or subtract our names to or from it. This preordained

00:38:11.600 drawing confirmed by the book of life does two things for us. First, it assures us that God is in

00:38:17.040 control of our salvation, not us. God uses tools like evangelism described in the Great Commission to

00:38:22.260 draw those he has preordained to himself. If we are destined to be drawn to him, he will make it

00:38:28.680 happen and it will be eternal. Second, it assures us that our sinful nature cannot separate us from

00:38:33.700 him once saved. We strive to be more like Christ through sanctification, but our failure cannot

00:38:37.900 separate us from him once drawn. To address your point on the Old Testament, first, Adam and Eve

00:38:42.980 sinned because it was in the plan that God had designed to glorify himself. Same with the fall of the

00:38:49.240 angels. The fall of man through sin created the Old Covenant, which works of man as outlined by the

00:38:57.440 law accredited righteousness to them. The situation changed with the New Covenant. We are dead to the 0.95

00:39:02.220 law and its hold over us, but still charged with pursuing some of the moral tenets of law. The

00:39:07.100 relationship with law and God changed under the New Covenant. It's no longer works-based as it was

00:39:13.900 under the Old Covenant, but now is faith-based. These ideas lead to the once saved, always saved

00:39:19.760 doctrine. This doctrine is less of a new idea in the 1500s, but rather a return to biblical truth

00:39:24.440 that had been lost or ignored under Christendom. We may change our minds or appear to change our

00:39:29.260 minds on earthly matters, but God does not change his mind on spiritual matters. God has chosen us

00:39:34.000 before creation, and as a result, we will choose, although it is God doing the choosing from our

00:39:39.080 perspective. We have a role to play in accepting Christ, to follow him and be saved as he has

00:39:43.860 preordained. God gives us the salvation desire to be saved, and we act upon the desire receiving that

00:39:49.800 salvation. It's all God, not us. We perceive choice here, but the will of God is undeniable,

00:39:54.240 and we will choose him before we die if he has ordained it. Okay, Ethan, I selected your email from

00:40:02.540 a gaggle of similar Calvinistic email, so I wanted to have that point of view represented,

00:40:12.920 and I appreciate the email. I will just say I very much reject the doctrinal assertions that you have

00:40:23.700 made here, as you might expect. I'm sure it doesn't surprise you. I think that you have really made God

00:40:29.700 into a, and not just you, okay, I know this is Calvinism, but you have made God into a cruel,

00:40:40.040 capricious puppet master, someone who from the beginning of time has designed certain people,

00:40:50.000 billions and billions. Let's remember, I'm sure you'd agree. You talk about the elect, the saved,

00:40:55.720 the ones written, you would agree, I assume, that the vast majority of people are not in that book,

00:41:00.180 right? And the vast majority of people don't even claim to be Christian, so I assume on your theology,

00:41:07.860 they're all definitely screwed. Okay, so according to you, God from the beginning of time has designed 0.94

00:41:16.900 certain people, billions, to burn in hell for all eternity. Now, I know you might quibble and say,

00:41:24.340 well, he didn't design them for that. Okay, he designed them and then destined for them for that

00:41:29.100 with no choice on their part. So I don't see the distinction. That's, he designed them for it.

00:41:35.220 Even now today, you would say, most of the infants on earth right now, as we speak,

00:41:42.000 are doomed to roast in hell forever, whether they die, you know, tomorrow or in 80 years.

00:41:47.680 They are doomed to eternally suffer, never ending torment, because God has designed them for that

00:41:55.640 destiny, and they never had a choice. I don't even know, from a Calvinist perspective, I don't even

00:42:01.140 know how you celebrate birth and, you know, childbirth and new babies. Isn't that sort of, how do you even

00:42:08.340 celebrate it as a good thing? Knowing that there's a, that almost all of these people are going to roast

00:42:13.520 in hell forever, because God's designed it that way and destined them for it. Isn't, isn't, isn't,

00:42:18.420 you know, the continuing of the human race a great tragedy? Isn't it really a horrible thing? 0.97

00:42:25.320 And, and why does God keep making more people? Why does he, he keeps making more and more people

00:42:29.580 to send to hell? Like, why does he just stop? This is not love, you know. If this is love,

00:42:38.280 then the word love has no meaning. If this is a loving God, then there is no functional difference

00:42:43.440 between a loving God and an evil God. So I just cannot possibly express strongly enough my rejection

00:42:50.800 of that idea. I don't believe in an evil God, but the God you describe is evil. Now you can call him

00:42:56.860 whatever you want. You could say, oh no, by his nature, he's good. Okay, but that's, that is, that,

00:43:01.620 that, uh, then the word good apparently can also essentially mean evil. If, if, if, if good includes

00:43:11.440 the possibility of, of, of, of sending people to hell for eternal suffering based on no choice or no

00:43:22.660 action on their part, if good is included in that, then again, there's no distinction between evil and

00:43:28.040 good. You say that Adam and Eve fell because God, um, uh, God engineered it that way to glorify

00:43:36.060 himself. So he gave them the illusion of choice, then engineered their fall, engineered a human 0.57

00:43:43.420 history of suffering and death and torment and pain leading for so many to eternal damnation and agony

00:43:50.440 forever. All just for his own sake, for his own glory. That's it. What could I possibly call this

00:43:58.800 version of God, but utter, utterly morally bankrupt and repulsive and horrifying? How could you even 0.65

00:44:07.760 worship a God like this? How could you worship a God that made billions of people and doom them

00:44:13.660 forever to hell? What is there even to worship in that kind of God?

00:44:22.580 Now you say that God, uh, still sends us out to preach the good news and evangelize as a way of,

00:44:28.260 of calling his elect, but his elect don't need to be called according to you. They're already saved.

00:44:35.220 They don't need to be told anything or, or accept anything. And not only that, but you know, the elect

00:44:40.120 don't need to be called. And those who are not elect, you can't call them because no matter what

00:44:44.760 you say to them to preach the gospel, they can't accept it because they've been preordained to burn 0.99

00:44:49.880 in hell. So the great commission is really a farce. It doesn't mean it's at best. It's symbolic,

00:44:56.960 but it's functionally pointless. It doesn't really do anything because those who are saved are going to

00:45:04.140 be saved no matter what. And those who are not saved are not going to be saved no matter what.

00:45:10.120 Um, and this is why, you know, I could go and quote the same verses I quoted yesterday and so

00:45:18.180 many others. I know I'm going to get grief for this because again, I'm not quoting Bible verses.

00:45:22.800 Well, I take any of the verses I quoted. Take, here's the thing. Take pretty much any verse in the Bible.

00:45:30.120 Any verse in the Bible, I think completely refutes Calvinism, just destroys it.

00:45:34.880 Why? Because all of it has no purpose at all. If we can't make a choice to accept it or not.

00:45:49.820 If God has all, if we are puppets on a string, which I know you wouldn't describe it that way,

00:45:54.860 but that, that, that, that's not how you would characterize it, but that is what you described.

00:45:58.600 If we are puppets on a string and we are destined for, for one way or another, then there's, there's

00:46:05.960 nothing in the, nothing in the Bible means anything. Every verse in the Bible that exhorts,

00:46:14.120 commands, uh, uh, you know, instructs, warns, all of that. And that, and that is most of the Bible is,

00:46:24.660 is, is, is like that or much of it anyway. All of that is pointless because you can't,

00:46:31.800 you could read it and you know, Jesus says, do this or that. But, but according to your theology,

00:46:36.620 you can't choose to, to listen to it. I either God's going to make you follow it or he's going

00:46:43.160 to make it. So you don't, um, you say at another point that the fall of man through sin created the

00:46:53.780 old covenant, except that wasn't the fall of man by your telling. I mean, if I, if I'm controlling

00:46:59.060 a puppet, a marionette on a string and my puppet goes and knocks your drink over, can I really then

00:47:05.320 blame the puppet? Can I pass the blame to the puppet and talk about the, the, the, the horrible

00:47:10.040 time when my puppet clumsily knocked your drink over? No, my puppet didn't do anything. I did.

00:47:15.300 My puppet has no agency, no will of its own. It's all of me. It's everything is me. It's what you

00:47:20.960 said. It's everything. It's all God. Everything is God. So for God to then, for, for God to then,

00:47:28.540 uh, engineer the fall of man and then blame us for it. All of a sudden you have painted a God who

00:47:35.780 again is capricious, malevolent, uh, vindictive. Now it's a good thing that such a God does not exist.

00:47:50.960 It's a good thing that actually God is loving and is merciful. And those words do mean something

00:47:57.300 when applied to him. And that is a very good thing. Um, and that's why I don't believe this

00:48:04.220 because I think scripture refutes it on pretty much every page. And also because I don't believe in an

00:48:11.740 evil God. Uh, I believe in a God of real love, real mercy, real justice. And none of that is possible

00:48:19.760 in the Calvinist system. Um, I think in the Calvinist system, you know, we've been talking

00:48:29.400 about the problem of suffering, the problem of evil. Well, as we've discussed, those are difficult

00:48:34.540 problems, uh, no matter, no matter your theology, those are difficult problems to, to overcome,

00:48:38.940 to deal with, um, to, to wrap your head around. But when you allow for personal agency, when you allow

00:48:49.020 for free will, um, when you allow for a world that God has created in which he allows us to make real

00:48:59.360 choices. And he wants us to make real choices because in the end he wants us to choose love

00:49:06.220 because love is not love if it is not chosen. In that kind of world, which is the world that we

00:49:12.280 really live in, I believe the problem of suffering, although it's still difficult, it's not as hard

00:49:18.060 because a lot of this stuff go, can go back to that and can be explained that way. People making

00:49:23.920 choices, not all of it, but a lot of it can be explained. Um, and certainly when you get to

00:49:29.400 something like hell, eternal damnation, eternal suffering, again, there are, there, there are some

00:49:35.200 really difficult things there to put it mildly. But when you, when, when, when you consider that

00:49:40.760 it is something people can choose of their own volition, because they'd rather have that than

00:49:47.020 in eternity with God, um, then it becomes a little bit less challenging. I think on the Calvinist

00:49:54.740 system, the problem of suffering just destroys you. The problem of suffering just completely ruins

00:50:00.420 your, your whole point of view. The problem of suffering is insurmountable on the Calvinist

00:50:06.060 system, because then you look at all the evil, all the terrible things that happen. And then you

00:50:11.240 also factor in the terrible thing that's going to happen to a lot of people after death. And

00:50:14.600 according to you, it really is all God's fault. He's doing all of that. That is all on him.

00:50:19.140 Um, and then to go from there to say, Oh no, no, no, but God is loving. That just doesn't make any

00:50:24.940 sense. Uh, that, that, that's just incoherent. You know, that, that's like a squared triangle. It

00:50:32.000 just, it doesn't work. Um, so, you know, yeah, that's, that's, I, I honestly, I, I, I'm so perplexed

00:50:48.260 by I, I, this, I know that there are a lot of Calvinists. I know plenty of Calvinists are good

00:50:54.280 people and, and, and, and faithful people and, uh, and, and, and all of that. So, so no, no

00:50:59.540 personal disrespect intended, but I, I find this view so perplexing, not just because it is completely

00:51:06.100 unbiblical. Um, and as you say, oh, you know, it was invented, it was invented 1500 years. It was

00:51:12.760 invented. Now you could say, Oh no, it was hidden in the text and no one noticed it. No, no, no.

00:51:15.820 John Calvin came along and invented this. This is not from Jesus. This is from him. He made this up.

00:51:26.040 But even aside from that, just how, if you really think that way about God, how could you possibly

00:51:33.020 worship him? How could you possibly talk about what is there to worship other than the fact that he's

00:51:37.420 very powerful? So then you're worshiping him the way that, that North Koreans worship their dictator 0.92

00:51:42.940 because they have to, you don't have a choice, but there's nothing really inherently there worth

00:51:48.280 worshiping. So that, that's what perplexes me about it. I just, I just, and I, I, you know,

00:51:54.480 that's a sincere question. I would really like to hear from a Calvinist, um, you know, not getting

00:51:58.980 back into debating whether it's true or not, though again, thank God it is not true, but just explain to

00:52:05.180 me, uh, in your way of thinking, how do you, in the Calvinist way of thinking, how is God at all

00:52:12.160 worthy of worship? How is he not just a malevolent evil tyrant directly responsible for all of the

00:52:22.600 awful things that are happening in the world and will happen in the world to come? That's what I'm

00:52:28.060 really curious about that. I'd be interested. I would love to read some emails on that question.

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The Matt Walsh Show - September 25, 2019

Ep. 339 - Cancel Culture Is A Cancer

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