The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 341 - Protesting Is Not A Job

00:00:00.000 So we had a, we had a false alarm yesterday. My wife, um, uh, my wife's going to give birth

00:00:04.760 any, any day now she'll give birth. And, and yesterday, shortly after the show, actually,

00:00:09.260 we, um, well, she was talking to the doctors and, and based on what she said, they, they said,

00:00:13.760 you got to go to the hospital. It might be time. And so we go to the hospital. We're there for six,

00:00:18.000 for six hours, maybe more. And then they send us home because they say it's not time yet. False

00:00:23.140 alarm. Uh, which means that maybe there's a chance now that I'll get to deliver a baby in the car

00:00:29.040 on the way to the hospital. And so that's exciting. But the point is on, on the way to the

00:00:33.540 hospital this time, I happen to mention, and, and you have to understand the context. I'm not going

00:00:38.580 to get into all of it, but I happen to mention on the way, um, that, you know, there, there really

00:00:47.460 isn't anywhere comfortable for me to sleep in the labor and delivery room. I just, I happen to mention

00:00:55.520 that, you know, uh, and, and, and that's a problem. I think, I, I, I think, I think that they should

00:01:02.720 make these rooms a little bit more comfortable for the men. That's all I'm saying. That's it.

00:01:08.500 And my wife reacts like there's something wrong with making this observation on the way to the

00:01:14.140 hospital. And then she says, and this floored me. Okay. This floored me. And it's one of those

00:01:20.220 moments where you, where you stop and you think, who is this person that I married? She said, I'm not

00:01:24.920 kidding. She said, well, when you can give birth, then you'll get your own bed. Excuse me. Excuse me. 1.00

00:01:36.460 When I can give birth, I can give birth anytime I please. I could give birth every day if I wanted.

00:01:44.280 Okay. This is the year 2019. Don't try to put me in your gendered box. Don't you sit there. 1.00

00:01:52.320 Don't you dare sit there and impose these social constructs on me? How dare you? How dare you?

00:02:01.520 And then I broke down into tears and I called the police and my wife called the divorce lawyer.

00:02:09.860 I don't know why my fake stories always end on such a dark note. Okay. Um, what I really want to begin

00:02:15.600 with is, uh, is, uh, now that we've gotten that difficult moment out of the way. Um, I regret to

00:02:22.500 inform you ladies and gentlemen, that the climate twerkers speaking of disturbing, the climate twerkers

00:02:29.720 are at it again. Watch this.

00:02:47.640 Yes. The, uh, the, that's not, no, this isn't a replay. This isn't a replay from Monday. This is,

00:02:53.080 this is, they remember they shut down DC, the shutdown DC climate protesters. They were in DC

00:02:58.260 on Monday doing this and, uh, and they're at, they're doing it again. It's Friday. They're once

00:03:03.200 again, they're back there shutting down roads, blocking traffic. Um, because they didn't tick 0.77

00:03:07.720 off the entire city enough last time and they weren't enough of a hassle and they didn't do

00:03:12.120 enough to prevent people from getting to their jobs and getting their kids to school. So they figured

00:03:16.540 let's do it again. Um, and, uh, they're also calling as it may not surprise you, they're calling

00:03:21.240 for Trump's impeachment. We will not stand for the destruction of the climate chaos. We have 11

00:03:28.140 years to take action. We need to hold the Trump administration and all of his cronies accountable.

00:03:34.560 And the first step that needs to happen is he needs to be impeached for his constant behavior.

00:03:43.080 Did, did she just say, I think I heard, did she just say,

00:03:46.160 we will not stand for the destruction of the climate chaos. Didn't she say that we will not

00:03:51.480 stand for the destruction of the climate chaos. I'm pretty sure she said that. So, uh, so she's

00:03:57.120 saying that they don't want the climate chaos to end. They, so they do want climate chaos.

00:04:04.460 Is that what this is all about? I'm confused, but, um, here's really my point. Just look at,

00:04:10.300 look at one more quick clip here.

00:04:12.400 All right. So here, here's my thing. These people were, were just, and you saw there's a lot of

00:04:36.060 people there right now, um, or this morning. Anyway, these, these people were, they were

00:04:40.920 protesting all day on Monday and they were protesting the Friday before that. The Friday

00:04:45.740 before that was a climate walkout thing. A lot of the same people were involved, I'm sure.

00:04:49.980 And so they're Friday, Monday, and, and now they're back at it again on Friday. That's three days of

00:04:55.560 protest, three work days of protests in the last week, in the last seven days, three of them they've

00:05:02.980 spent out on the street holding signs. So how does that conversation go when you call up your work

00:05:10.540 on the third day? How do you, it's like, hi boss. Uh, yeah, I got, I got to call out of work again.

00:05:16.560 What? Yeah. For another protest. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. I know I missed the, I missed work

00:05:21.640 for a protest last week. Yeah. I know I missed for a week, the week before that I missed too. But,

00:05:26.160 but, but you know, the thing is, excuse me, what was it? Fired? It's just, okay. I realized that the

00:05:33.420 problem with that hypothetical conversation is that it assumes that these people have jobs in

00:05:38.060 the first place, which, which of course they don't, but, um, they don't have jobs and they're

00:05:44.340 obviously not trying to get jobs because this isn't what you do when you have to get a job.

00:05:50.280 When you have to get a job, yeah, you should be hitting the pavement, but you should be doing that,

00:05:54.280 um, with your khakis on and your shirt tucked in and, uh, you know, your resume in hand,

00:05:59.920 hitting the pavement, going into places, shaking hands. That's what you should be doing.

00:06:04.160 You shouldn't be wearing jorts in the street twerking. Um, at least that's not how they did it 0.56

00:06:11.360 back in my day. And yet I guarantee you, I absolutely guarantee you that every single one

00:06:21.420 of those people would tell you a tearful story about how they can't, they can't pay back their

00:06:26.160 student loans. I guarantee, you know, I'm right. If you go there and you talk to those people

00:06:30.460 and you say, uh, what's going on with your student loans guys immediately, the violins,

00:06:36.960 there's going to be a whole violin section. It's going to be like a symphony orchestra

00:06:40.880 of whining. And they're going to tell you all about, Oh my gosh, I can't, I've been struggling

00:06:46.740 with these loads and I just can't get a job and I don't know what to do. I just can't,

00:06:50.620 I'm struggling. I, you don't know my pain. You don't, you just don't understand it.

00:06:56.040 They all want us to feel sorry for them, for their financial position, even as they spend

00:07:00.440 their days holding poster board and shouting slogans into micro, into megaphones.

00:07:06.740 Uh, and this is why, this is one of the reasons why it's not, it's not even the, it's not the main

00:07:12.120 reason. I mean, the main reason why I don't, I'm not interested in paying back student loans.

00:07:16.360 People's student loans is that they're not my loans, not my responsibility. Sorry.

00:07:22.020 But the second reason is I just don't believe when I, I'm sorry. When I hear

00:07:26.380 these college graduates talking about how they can't get a job and there's no jobs. I just don't,

00:07:33.560 I don't believe them. I got to tell you, I really don't believe it because there are a lot of jobs

00:07:38.220 out there. You just have to be, you have to number one, be willing to do them. And number two,

00:07:43.520 you have to try to get them. So, uh, you know, I just, I don't believe it. I'm sorry. I think if

00:07:50.700 you're a college graduate, you haven't had, you know, you, you haven't had a job in two years.

00:07:55.100 It's because you're just really not trying hard enough to get one. Um, but Bernie will still tell

00:08:01.720 us that these poor, helpless little puppy dogs need us to bail them out. It's their right to be 0.78

00:08:07.460 bailed out. In fact, Bernie sent out a tweet last night and the tweet said, um,

00:08:12.800 getting an educate, listen to this, see if you can make sense of this.

00:08:19.040 Getting an education isn't a crime. We need to cancel every penny of student debt.

00:08:26.800 So that of course is a total non-sequitur. That is what we call a non-sequitur.

00:08:32.380 And Bernie does this all the time because he is a vapid, silly airhead of a man. 1.00

00:08:40.980 And this is what he do. He starts with a, this is what he does. He starts with a, a, 1.00

00:08:45.400 I just called him an airhead. And then I just followed that up with the phrase, 0.98

00:08:47.940 this is what he do. And this is what he do. This dummy. Um, anyway, he starts with a general

00:08:55.020 statement or declaration. And then he, and then he concludes with a statement that has nothing to do

00:09:00.960 with the first thing he said. Um, like, okay, yes, getting an education is not a crime. We agree.

00:09:09.080 But why does that mean we should cancel student debts? See that you can't say getting an education

00:09:14.200 isn't a crime. Therefore cancel debt. There's an implied therefore in between the two sentences.

00:09:20.840 And that I don't see the connection. If getting an education was a crime, then there wouldn't be any

00:09:26.880 student loan to cancel in the first place because you wouldn't be able to get one because the banks

00:09:31.860 wouldn't be able to loan it. Just like you can't, it's, it's a crime to be a heroin dealer. And you

00:09:37.700 couldn't go into a bank and say, uh, I, Hey, I need a loan. I'm starting this heroin business and I

00:09:42.920 really need $10,000 to get it going. Couldn't do that. So you might as well go this statement from

00:09:50.200 Bernie. He might as well go to Subway. And I actually have no doubt that he would do something like

00:09:53.620 this. Go to Subway, order a sandwich. The cashier says that'll be six 50. And then you say, wait,

00:09:59.920 you want money? Eating a sandwich is not a crime. It makes no sense. Speaking of making no sense.

00:10:08.960 And on a somewhat related note, here is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:10:14.580 I mean, what this all is, is us reaching into our pockets and deciding how we're already spending the

00:10:21.800 money that we're already contributing to society. The problem is that America is at its wealthiest

00:10:27.120 point that we've ever been. And yet we've, we are at one of our most unequal points that we've ever

00:10:32.480 been. You would not know that our country is posting record profits because 40 million Americans

00:10:37.800 are living in poverty right now. And if the poverty line was real, if it was at around what some people

00:10:43.740 think it should be about $38,000 a year, we would be shocked at how much the richest society on the

00:10:52.300 planet is, is allowing so much of its people to live in destitute. So we're not talking about

00:10:58.340 paying for somebody else. We're talking about getting our own rent under control. We're talking

00:11:03.540 about not getting fleeced by our own landlords. Yes, that's correct. She wants to move the poverty line

00:11:09.420 to $38,000 a year. That would be, by the way, about nine. That's, that's, uh, I haven't done the

00:11:19.140 math actually, but I correct me if I'm wrong. That would. So if you're, if you're working full time

00:11:25.180 on an, on a, um, an hourly wage, $38,000 a year, that would be like 18 or 19 bucks an hour.

00:11:33.140 Assuming, uh, you know, 40 hours a week. So now, so now what? $19 an hour is poverty.

00:11:40.440 So we've gone from, let's raise the minimum wage to 15 to, oh no, actually $19 an hour is destitute

00:11:48.020 poverty. Destitution. She said destitution. Destitution is close to 40 grand a year. So if

00:11:57.720 you're making close to 40 grand a year, you are destitute. Did you know that? You probably didn't

00:12:02.200 know that because it doesn't feel like you're destitute, but you could be right now. If

00:12:07.880 you make 40 grand a year, especially if you're a single person making 40 grand a year, you

00:12:11.620 could be, you could be watching this right now or listening to it on your phone, in your

00:12:15.280 apartment that you pay for, you got your car that you pay for in the, in the parking lot

00:12:19.700 downstairs. If you've got your TV there, you're on your couch, you got a refrigerator full of

00:12:24.680 food, all of that, that you easily could pay for with $38,000 a year, but you're destitute.

00:12:32.200 It's, it's news to you. I'm sure. I don't know if you take that as good or bad news, but, uh,

00:12:38.700 but there you go. You're destitute. I, I, I know I've, I've, uh, I've told, I've mentioned this

00:12:45.820 before, but I lived, I, I myself lived on 20 grand a year for about five years in my early twenties.

00:12:53.420 Um, and my salary fluctuated between like 17,000. I think it was, it got as high as 22, I think at

00:13:00.720 one point. And I remember at one point I, I, uh, I asked for a raise to get up to 24 and I was turned

00:13:07.860 down and I was said, no, you can't get the talk. But I remember back then, um, I used to think if I

00:13:14.440 could just make 30,000 a year, 30,000, I would go to sleep dreaming of me. I really would. I'd go to

00:13:20.280 sleep dreaming of what I could do with $30,000 a year. Can you believe it? 30,000 a year.

00:13:27.160 And I never got there, at least not during that, at least not during that time. Okay. So, uh, my

00:13:31.760 point is if 40 grand a year is destitution, then, um, then, then how did I make it on 20 grand a year?

00:13:37.980 As a, how did I, I was, I was, I, I basically starved to death without knowing it. I technically

00:13:44.460 in dead. I don't know if you knew this. I, I am technically dead right now because I lived on half

00:13:51.560 of destitution. I wasn't, I didn't even rise to the level of destitution. I w I was halfway to being

00:13:57.140 destitute on 20 grand a year. Um, and, and yet even with 20 grand a year, I had, uh, I had, I had,

00:14:04.840 uh, I had, uh, you know, I had an apartment that I lived in. I had a car, I had, uh, food. I even

00:14:12.420 had money left over for, for beer. You know, uh, well I had to, usually I had to give up lunch so

00:14:17.520 that I could, so that I could have some beer, but, uh, but you gotta have your priorities and straight

00:14:21.480 yeah, you know, you gotta have everything in line. But the point is I was able to do that,

00:14:25.760 um, on, on 40, on 20 grand a year. So 40 grand a year is not poor. It's not rich either.

00:14:32.280 That's for sure, but it's not poor at all. AOC is just a bloviating babbling gas bag as usual.

00:14:40.360 She's basically, you know what AOC is? She is basically a, a, a balloon that when you let the 1.00

00:14:47.580 air out of it, that's what AOC is. That's how much content is there. That's how much, that's how

00:14:53.200 much thought is evident in her ideas. By the way, if you make $32,000 a year, if you make 32,000,

00:15:02.000 so you're not even at 38, 32, that puts you in the top 1% of all income earner earners, not in

00:15:10.160 America, but in the world, you are a, if you make 32 or more, you are a one percenter. You are in the

00:15:17.560 top 1% of all income earners, which means that according to AOC, even, even one percenters are

00:15:24.000 destitute. Even most one percenters are destitute. So 99% of the world is destitute by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's

00:15:32.140 standards. And then even probably, probably like 99% of the 1% would, would, would qualify as,

00:15:39.320 as being poor or nearly poor. So that leaves who's left, who isn't destitute? Warren Buffett,

00:15:45.380 I guess, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, they're, they're the only guys, I guess, and the rest of

00:15:50.740 us are poor. This is the kind of logic that you get from the left these days. And so you,

00:15:57.640 you look at their vision of the world, look at their vision of the world. Everybody is poor.

00:16:04.280 Well over 99% of the planet is destitute. Human civilization is hovering on the brink of, of

00:16:11.700 collapse. They have come a long way from hope and change in 2008. That's all I can say.

00:16:19.000 I'm, I'm old enough to remember in 2008 when it was, it was all about hope and there's a brighter

00:16:23.620 tomorrow. And now we're being told you're all dirt poor. You're going to starve. And if you don't

00:16:29.520 starve, you're going to drown when the ice caps melt in 12 years. That is a very strange form of

00:16:35.320 hope. Although honestly, when I see that twerking guy in DC, it kind of does give me hope to think 0.96

00:16:43.220 that we're all going to drown in 12 years. I sort of, the only thing that brings me into despair is

00:16:48.540 that it won't happen sooner. All right. Um, just quickly, I wanted to, uh, uh, I wanted to mention

00:16:54.560 this because you might be confused about it, but there's a, there's this Joker movie, uh, coming out

00:17:01.020 soon. The, the origin story of Joker starring Joaquin Phoenix. And I personally, and I, you know,

00:17:06.700 I'm, I'm really looking forward to it because I love, I love Joaquin Phoenix. I think he's maybe the,

00:17:11.180 certainly the most interesting actor in Hollywood, maybe the best. He's a great actor. Uh, I'm not even a

00:17:16.440 fan of the superhero movies at all, really, but I think this, this looks like an interesting movie.

00:17:21.920 Well, the movie is generating outrage, even though it's not out yet. So most people haven't seen it.

00:17:28.720 It's played at some of the festivals, but most of the people that are outraged and concerned and

00:17:33.960 worried about it, most of them have not seen it. They've seen a, they've seen a preview. They haven't

00:17:38.800 actually seen the movie, but there is, uh, there is, uh, there is outrage and, and controversy and

00:17:45.540 concern over the movie because people are worried that it's going to encourage violence. It's going

00:17:49.260 to encourage mass shootings and violence. Um, and there's so much controversy that Warner brothers

00:17:56.840 had to release a statement addressing this. And this is what Warner brothers said. They said,

00:18:02.000 make no mistake. Neither the fictional character of Joker nor the film is an endorsement of real world

00:18:08.940 violence of any kind. It is not the intention of the film, the filmmakers or the studio to hold this

00:18:16.100 character up as a hero. So in case you were, in case you were confused about this, all right, in case

00:18:23.020 you were confused, this movie about a psychotic serial killing clown is not supposed to be, um, a model

00:18:32.540 for your behavior in case you were confused. And I'm glad that they clarified this because I, you know,

00:18:39.420 personally, um, when I heard about this movie, the first thing I thought was, you know, that actually

00:18:49.360 sounds like a great idea. I think I'd like to go and commit violent acts. That's what I thought to

00:18:53.760 me. I know we probably, most of us did, I guess, but we thought you see the preview and you think that's

00:18:58.480 that looks great. Hmm. That's a good suggestion. I think I'll become a psychotic clown as a matter

00:19:05.200 of fact. And I, you know, I was planning on it and everything. I'd already got the, I got the face 0.95

00:19:09.860 paint and I was, I was planning my, my killing spree. Um, but then I saw this, this notice from

00:19:17.300 Warner brothers and I said, Oh, so you're saying we shouldn't do that. All right. Well, I mean,

00:19:23.280 hopefully I can return this face paint. I did keep the receipts. I'll have to go back to the

00:19:28.240 store and say to them, yeah, I got to return this. Yeah. I was going to become a psychotic

00:19:31.420 clown, but I decided not to. Yeah. I was going to, I was going to killing spree. Yeah. I was 0.98

00:19:34.040 going to, but I'm not, uh, anyway, can I, can I get my $9 back? Um, so that's just a really

00:19:40.680 important, important thing there that we can all, we can all learn from. All right. Let's, um,

00:19:48.640 speaking of psychotic,

00:19:51.020 when we have that transition, you know, we're going to something good. This isn't good at all.

00:19:56.900 Actually, this is, um, horrifying. And all I want to do is I'm going to read a little bit from

00:20:05.520 the daily wire report. Uh, and this, as, as you will know, this kind of, this story makes me livid.

00:20:19.240 Uh, I mean, almost blind seething with anger when I read this stuff as it should for anyone.

00:20:28.080 Anyway, this is the story. Uh, it says more than six, more than 6,300 adults have died from

00:20:34.120 reactions to a drug that is used as a puberty blocker in gender confused children. According

00:20:39.700 to FDA data, the Christian post reported on Thursday between 2012 and June 30th of this year,

00:20:45.400 the FDA documented over 40,000 adverse reactions suffered by patients who took, um, uh, I'm probably

00:20:53.260 going to butcher this, but leoprolide acetate, uh, Lupron, which is used as a hormone blocker.

00:20:59.200 More than 25,000 reactions logged from 2014, 2019 were considered serious, including 6,370 deaths.

00:21:07.740 Lupron is being described off being prescribed off label for use in children who have been

00:21:14.240 diagnosed with gender dysphoria, despite the lack of formal FDA approval for that purpose. The drug

00:21:19.280 is clinically approved for treatment of precocious puberty, a condition where children start their

00:21:24.480 pubertal process at an abnormally early age. And the blocker is administered for a short time until

00:21:30.100 the proper age. Um, Michael Laidlaw, a California based endocrinologist who exposed in April that

00:21:37.660 doctors are giving testosterone to gender confused girls as young as eight years old testosterone to 0.92

00:21:45.580 eight year olds. Okay. He questioned why a physiological disorder like gender dysphoria

00:21:51.500 would be treated with such drugs instead of proper psychological care. Gender dysphoria is not an

00:21:58.480 endocrine condition, but is a psychological one and should therefore be treated with proper

00:22:02.820 psychological care. He said, um, as highlighted by the outlet, drug sales for Lupron in the United

00:22:09.560 States in 2017 hit about $669 million. Um, as previously covered by the daily wire, Laidlaw,

00:22:16.700 among other medical doctors, uh, sounded the alarm on the increasing use of transgender related drugs.

00:22:22.560 Um, and it goes on to talk about these, these drugs being given to people in kids, children in third

00:22:30.420 and fourth grade. Um, and then anyway, you should, I'm not, I, it's a longer article, but you should go

00:22:36.240 to daily wire and read the entire report talking about the effects, uh, even, even if they're not

00:22:41.560 fatal effects, the intended effects of these drugs being given to young children and what it does to

00:22:48.360 them, the ways that it disforms them, um, what it does to the proper development of the reproductive 1.00

00:22:56.640 organs of, of, of, of these kids because of these drugs. This is just, as I said, this is really

00:23:08.080 psychotic. And in a, in a world that made sense, a doctor who prescribes testosterone, um, to a, to an

00:23:22.220 eight-year-old girl because she's confused and thinks she's a boy, that doctor would go to jail

00:23:29.320 for poisoning children. This is, you're poisoning. This, you, they, they do not have a physical

00:23:37.860 problem that is being treated or cured or, or in any way addressed by these drugs. You are creating

00:23:46.100 a physical problem. So to give someone a chemical that creates physical problems and does not treat

00:23:54.900 any physical problem, that's poisoning. Is that not the definition of poisoning somebody?

00:24:02.700 So in a world that made sense, these doctors would go to jail and these children, these parents

00:24:07.180 would lose custody of their children. And I, I don't say that lightly. Um, you know, I don't, I,

00:24:13.780 I think taking a child away from a parent is one of the worst things you could do to them.

00:24:19.380 And it is, uh, it, and it happens sometimes way, it does happen sometimes in, in inappropriate

00:24:24.820 circumstances. And that happens way too often. But if you're taking your child into the doctor to be

00:24:31.240 poisoned, if you're giving hormones to your young child to stunt their, their growth and their puberty

00:24:38.920 because they're confused about who they are and what they are, and they're confused because of you, 1.00

00:24:47.640 the parent, you idiot, talking to these parents that would do this, don't mean to call everybody 1.00

00:24:56.760 an idiot. Um, if you are a parent who would do this, you are, I mean, an idiot would be, that is a very 1.00

00:25:04.180 generous because there are a lot of other words I could use that I'm not going to use here because 1.00

00:25:08.120 this is a family show. Sort of. They're confused because of you, because you're a bad parent,

00:25:17.040 because you haven't explained this to them. Explain it to them. It's not hard.

00:25:24.860 Oh, my, my, my three-year-old was, uh, he, yeah, he, he's been saying since he was three or three

00:25:29.420 years old, he was a girl. Because he's three years old, you idiot. You absolute lunatic. 1.00

00:25:36.300 He's three. Just explain it to him. He doesn't know anything. 1.00

00:25:43.240 Oh, I guess we got to take him to the, to the, to the doctor and have him poisoned.

00:25:46.720 It's the only way. What else can we do? You are unfit. You should have your, you should be

00:25:51.720 locked in jail with your kids taken away from you. You are destroying your kids forever. You're 0.99

00:25:56.980 ruining them. You realize that you are ruining your kids. You are ruining their lives. You are

00:26:02.440 ruining their bodies. You are ruining their minds. You are horrible. Okay. I just, I just don't

00:26:09.640 understand how you could do this. Uh, I just don't understand how you do that to your child. I, I,

00:26:13.300 I, you know, how, how much of a monstrous human being do you have to be to do that to your child?

00:26:18.680 Um, just because of your own ideology and your own, you know, your own delusions.

00:26:27.580 Oh, no, no, no, no. Well, we can't blame them. I mean, they, they really think, I mean,

00:26:31.140 you know, they, they really think that their, that their son is really their daughter trapped in a

00:26:35.680 boy's body. I mean, come on. How, what, what does that mean?

00:26:41.880 Um, all right. Um, one other thing, there's an airline in Japan that has introduced a new feature,

00:26:48.280 uh, to, to warn you when babies are going to sit next to you on a flight or, or at least

00:26:54.280 the feature, I guess it warns you where the babies are on the flight ahead of time so that you can

00:26:59.120 avoid them. Um, so when you're booking your flight and you're looking at the seat map, a little icon,

00:27:05.380 a little picture of a baby will pop up in the, in the, uh, on the seat chart. And then you can

00:27:12.040 steer clear of that, I guess is the idea. And a lot of people online seem to be approving of this

00:27:17.560 system. Um, it seems to be pretty popular as a parent of four, um, myself, I'm, I'm not offended.

00:27:25.320 I mean, I get it. Listening to a baby scream, especially on a plane is not enjoyable for anyone,

00:27:29.380 though. I found as a parent that I'm less, I'm, I'm less sensitive to it than, uh, other than

00:27:36.540 maybe other people are who don't have kids. I get, you'd think maybe I'd be more sensitive to it

00:27:40.380 because I got to listen to my own kids scream. And then the last thing I want to do is listen to

00:27:43.700 other people. But when, when I hear other kids screaming who aren't my kids, the only thing I

00:27:49.980 think is I'm so glad that isn't my kid, especially on a plane. If there's a kid screaming, it's not mine.

00:27:56.560 I'm just so relieved. I feel bad. I'm, I'm, I have sympathy for the parent whose kid it is.

00:28:01.520 And then, but also I'm very relieved that it isn't mine. And so that's why maybe I'm not as

00:28:05.900 annoyed by it, but, um, I get it that, that not everyone feels that way. Here's my thing though.

00:28:10.860 Can this logic extend beyond babies? If it's not offensive to give warnings about babies and to

00:28:18.820 single them out and, uh, and to single the parents out too, by extension, then what about an

00:28:25.760 icon warning where the morbidly obese people are sitting or where the people with body odor are

00:28:31.640 sitting or where the very talkative people are sitting? Um, so this is what I propose when

00:28:38.300 you're buying your ticket, you should have to fill out a survey, maybe about 10 pages,

00:28:43.700 no big deal covering your physical features, height, weight, all of that. Um, personality traits,

00:28:51.660 any gastrointestinal issues you might have. Are you prone, are you prone to say flatulence on planes

00:28:59.040 as some people are and you put it all on there. Um, and this should also be enforced by law, of course.

00:29:05.840 And, um, and of course, if you lie on the survey then, and that's discovered, then you should be

00:29:10.900 flown, thrown off the plane while it's in the air, obviously, you know, it goes without saying,

00:29:14.420 didn't need to say that, but, um, and then we can all game plan accordingly and we can just,

00:29:19.320 and then it becomes kind of a fun, I think this act all of a sudden now booking a flight becomes a lot

00:29:25.240 of fun because it's sort of a chess match of, you have to decide, you see where everybody's at.

00:29:30.520 And so you're making decisions. You're like, okay, I want to avoid this baby over here,

00:29:34.420 but, uh, then there's that going on over there. And okay, but then I've got this guy over here

00:29:39.400 with body odor. I've got a talkative woman up there. Okay. This person over here. So, so then, 0.99

00:29:44.500 then you're just kind of strategizing. And meanwhile, people are trying to strategize around you

00:29:49.500 for your own issues. And it could be a lot of fun. I, you know, that's an idea. I think, uh,

00:29:53.780 I'd throw that out there to Delta or, uh, anyone. Um, all right, let's, uh,

00:30:00.500 go to emails, Matt wall show at gmail.com. Matt wall show at gmail.com says, uh, and as you,

00:30:10.000 if you listened to the show yesterday, as you're probably expecting all of these emails have to

00:30:14.000 do with the topic of evolution. So I hope you find that topic interesting. Otherwise you're

00:30:18.920 going to be bored to death by what's about to happen here. Um, it says, Hey Matt, this is in

00:30:24.940 response to what you said regarding the theory of evolution in your latest episode. I'm 16 years old

00:30:29.180 and the creation evolution debate. I think a strong case can be made for either side,

00:30:34.060 not only scientifically, but also biblically. I, however, find myself on the young earth creation

00:30:38.600 side of things based on the research that I've done. One thing that you said in today's episode

00:30:43.220 really stood out to me. There has not been one relevant discovery to have a significant

00:30:46.480 disconfirming effect on evolution. I would like to challenge you on that one. In 1991, Dr. Mary

00:30:51.840 Schweitzer discovered soft tissue and a T-Rex bone. This has been followed. And then there's a link to

00:30:56.740 that article about that. This has been followed by similar discoveries in other dinosaur species.

00:31:00.880 The idea that soft tissue could survive for 65 million years based on what we know about

00:31:04.220 fossilization is absurd. This is just one piece of evidence that I find compelling. Creation.com

00:31:08.580 is a good source for similar evidences. Since you're a Christian, let me ask you this. If God

00:31:12.620 created Adam and Eve through the process of evolution, but did God look at the world he made

00:31:16.480 through millions of years of death and suffering, which evolution by natural selection requires

00:31:20.580 and see that it was, quote, very good? This, I think, makes God a lot like, or at least as detestable

00:31:27.000 as, the Calvinistic God you described in the episode prior. Is it not sin that initially brought

00:31:32.860 death into the world? If not, and if death really is very good, how is it that you can look at any

00:31:37.320 tragedy in the world today, specifically natural disasters, and say otherwise? This is not to say

00:31:41.280 that you were, that where you are in the debate is a salvation issue or even a theologically

00:31:45.800 significant issue. It's certainly not in comparison to others, but I appreciate that

00:31:49.480 you mentioned it. It's always great to hear your opinion on things. By the way, the title of this

00:31:54.520 email was, How Could You Believe in Evolution? You Absolute Heretic, in all caps. And I see now that 0.95

00:31:59.120 that title was a joke, which I appreciate and I'm relieved by, especially considering I have a lot of

00:32:04.660 emails this morning with titles like that that are not a joke. And so I appreciate that. So Ben,

00:32:12.640 first of all, congrats on being 16 years old and thinking through this stuff. I think when I was

00:32:17.500 16, I could have probably debated my favorite music video on TRL, but I would have been useless

00:32:25.720 in a debate like this. TRL, you don't know anything about that. That was back in the day

00:32:29.420 when the M in MTV actually stood for music. Anyway, so the soft tissue and dinosaur bones. That is

00:32:36.160 fascinating. It gives me hope for a real life Jurassic Park one day. Who knows? I don't think

00:32:43.380 that that has a significant disconfirming effect at all, really. Because the vast majority of dinosaur

00:32:51.640 bones don't have soft tissue. There's a reason why this was a significant discovery because it's never

00:32:58.820 been discovered before. And there are other examples of it. But it's certainly, these are

00:33:05.320 minority cases. You'd expect soft tissue in a great number of them if the earth is only 6,000 years old.

00:33:15.820 Instead, almost all of them look exactly as you would expect for 70 million year old bones.

00:33:23.080 So, let me ask you this. And this isn't even to get into any of the many, many problems with the

00:33:32.700 idea that humans and dinosaurs coexist. There's just no evidence for that at all. And there should be a

00:33:41.980 lot. Okay, to point to a couple little things, soft tissue. If humans and dinosaurs, if humans were

00:33:49.020 walking around with T-Rexes, okay, and brontosauruses, and all of that, and if you are taking what appears

00:33:56.200 to be on a geological scale, tens of millions of years of dinosaur history, and condensing it,

00:34:04.980 and putting humans with it, and then condensing it down to, what, a few thousand?

00:34:11.460 There should be a lot of evidence for that. A lot. And there's just none.

00:34:15.800 Anyway, so let me ask you. If the majority of the bones look like you would expect them to look

00:34:27.580 under the old earth model, which they do, and a small minority have a few aspects that you might

00:34:33.820 expect under a young earth model, which model would you say has been confirmed? Okay, another thing to

00:34:41.040 think about. How do you know that the bones had soft tissue? Well, these scientists told you, right?

00:34:51.640 They also tell you that the bones are 75 million years old, or 65 million years old, or whatever.

00:34:57.460 So this is what young earthers tend to do, and I've noticed, where they reject almost all of the

00:35:03.320 discoveries and conclusions of modern science. But when any small little detail here or there

00:35:09.160 is advantageous to them, they swoop in and grab it. Taking the discovery, but still rejecting the

00:35:17.080 method used to obtain it. That, to me, seems like an invalid procedure. I'm not saying you have to

00:35:23.380 accept everything a scientist tells you. I'm just saying that you should have some logical ground

00:35:28.460 for rejecting all of it, except for the bits that happen to align with your theology.

00:35:35.100 And I don't think there are logical grounds for it. So that's my issue. In fact, on the young earth

00:35:43.500 model, on the young earth model, you can't even speak of fossils at all. Fossils, but you said

00:35:50.180 yourself, under the process of fossilization, we shouldn't have soft tissue. Okay, but you understand

00:35:58.440 under your model, you can't talk about fossilization. That doesn't exist. Fossils, by definition,

00:36:05.980 are over 10,000 years old. By definition, that's what a fossil is. That's part of what makes it a fossil.

00:36:13.120 So the fact that fossils exist at all is disconfirming for the young earth model. And it certainly means

00:36:20.920 that you can't prove them to, or use them to prove a young earth, when there shouldn't be any fossils

00:36:27.000 by your model. On the Adam and Eve bit, so I guess the point there is that you have, in order to use

00:36:38.080 the soft tissue on a few of these bones as proof of a young earth model, you're, like, talk about

00:36:46.980 picking at bones here. You're literally picking that skin off that bone, and you're tossing so many other

00:36:51.780 related things away with no logical reason to do it, other than it doesn't fit with what you want to

00:36:57.860 believe. And so that, it's just, it's not, it's not valid. That's, that's just not logically valid to

00:37:05.720 operate that way. On the, on the Adam and Eve bit, God, God said it's very good. Yeah, and that's,

00:37:14.640 that's a good point. But let me ask you this. Satan, we're told, was in the garden, in the form of the

00:37:22.280 snake. Did God mean that Satan was very good? Well, no. Okay, so, so I have no trouble with the idea that

00:37:31.620 God was referring to the good things as good, and he was not referring to the bad things.

00:37:37.780 Um, and the, the, and the thing is, you, you must believe the same thing, any young earther must,

00:37:47.120 especially if you, if you, if you, if you're taking it, the Genesis account completely literally,

00:37:51.860 and you've got the, the snake, uh, who's obviously a bad dude, trying, trying to tempt Eve. Well, he was

00:38:01.360 there, apparently, and he wasn't good. So we know that at least one thing has to be excluded from that

00:38:08.980 statement. And then when you factor in the, you know, uh, the existence of all of the demons and

00:38:19.940 everything, then, then it's, it's really quite a lot that's being, that's not being included in that

00:38:24.880 statement of this is very good. All right, this is from JL says, you keep claiming the Bible says the

00:38:30.800 sun orbits around the earth. The Bible says no such thing. Please don't try to support your

00:38:35.160 heretical views of Genesis by slandering God's word. Well, JL, um, unfortunately you are wrong.

00:38:42.420 The Bible very certainly does indicate on a literal reading that the sun orbits the earth.

00:38:47.300 Um, does this mean that God was wrong? No, it just means that the literal reading was wrong. And

00:38:51.280 that was my point. That's my only point I'm trying to make here, that, that sometimes we can think

00:38:56.000 that something is literal and then we, it turns out that it's not. And sometimes the

00:39:00.760 science is what can lead us to reevaluate something that we thought was literal and discover that it's

00:39:08.260 not. And you just can't, when I say that you, you can't say, oh no, well, we can't do that because

00:39:13.920 you're putting science above the Bible. No, you, that you, you can't make that statement because

00:39:19.440 that's exactly what we did when it comes to the heliocentric model of the universe or of the solar

00:39:25.940 system rather. Um, so just one example. So let's, let's establish a couple of things here. It's a

00:39:33.340 matter of historical record that Christians for 1500 years, by and large, based primarily on a

00:39:42.400 literal reading of the Bible, thought that the sun orbits the earth. That is a matter of historical

00:39:47.060 record. You can't deny it. Um, there's just one example, a quote from Martin Luther that I'll give you.

00:39:52.820 He says, there's a talk of a new astrologer, Copernicus is who he's talking about, who wants

00:39:57.500 to prove that the earth moves and goes around instead of the sky, the sun, the moon, just as if

00:40:02.680 somebody were moving in a carriage or ship might hold that he was sitting still and at rest while

00:40:07.400 the earth and the trees walked and moved. But that is how things are nowadays. When a man wishes to be 1.00

00:40:12.220 clever, he must invent something special and the way he does it, uh, must needs be the best. The fool 1.00

00:40:18.580 wants to turn the whole art of astronomy upside down. However, as Holy scripture tells us, so did 0.99

00:40:24.040 Joshua bid the sun to stand still and not the earth. I, uh, you could find many quotes like this

00:40:32.240 from Catholics and Protestants who believed that there's just no way that the earth goes around the

00:40:39.300 sun because it's not consistent with the Bible. As for the Bible, it has many verses talking about

00:40:44.780 the sun moving across the sky, which it doesn't. We move around it. Now it's also true. Like if

00:40:51.300 you're really desperate to, to, to, to make these, uh, to try to make these Bible verses still literal,

00:40:57.160 then you could try to claim that, well, technically though, the sun is also moving because the whole

00:41:02.300 solar system is moving because the whole galaxy is moving through space. Um, and, and we are,

00:41:07.180 but yes, that's true. That's not what the Bible's saying though, on a literal reading. And at any rate,

00:41:13.060 it's still the case that we are moving around the sun, the sun by no means in any way is moving

00:41:19.860 around us or going up and down or doing anything like that in relation to the earth. Um, but on a

00:41:26.840 literal reading, again, that's not what it says. So I could read, I mean, there's the, there's the,

00:41:30.580 the quote from Joshua that I just, uh, that Martin Luther just referenced. So you've got that one.

00:41:36.000 I don't need to read it. Um, Ecclesiastes, the sun rises and the sun goes down and hastens to the

00:41:44.220 place where it rises. Okay. So you've got the sun rising and going down and hastening.

00:41:50.740 Clearly this is referring on a literal reading. We're talking about it would say if, if you were

00:41:55.660 to read that literally, what does it mean? You would conclude that the sun goes up and goes down

00:42:01.620 and hastens, moves right around the earth. Uh, Psalms 19, four through six, uh, says yet their

00:42:09.920 voice goes out through all the earth and their words to the end of the world in them. He has sent

00:42:13.960 a tent for the sun, which comes forth like a bridegroom leaving his chamber. And like a strong

00:42:18.340 man runs his course with joy, it's rising is from the ends of the earth and it circuits to the end of

00:42:22.960 them. And there was nothing hid from its heat. Um, and, uh, let's see. Then you've got, there's

00:42:30.440 several others there. I'm just, and then you've got, you've got a bunch of stuff. First Chronicles

00:42:35.060 tremble before him, all the earth. Yay. The world stands firm, never to be moved. Psalms says, uh,

00:42:43.120 the world is established. It shall never be moved. Uh, another, another Psalm says, uh, say among the

00:42:49.800 nations, nations, the world, the Lord reigns. Yay. The world is established. It shall never be moved.

00:42:54.440 He will judge the peoples with equity. Okay. So you've got the sun moving up and down. You've got

00:42:59.040 the earth's not moving, staying still. When, of, when, of course we know that the earth moves around

00:43:04.000 the sun and you can't even say, well, no, they didn't mean the earth, the globe. They meant the

00:43:07.600 ground itself. Well, we know the ground moves too. Plague technotonics tells us the ground is

00:43:12.160 constantly shifting beneath our feet. So everything is moving. The earth by no means in any sense whatsoever

00:43:17.700 is still. Okay. So we look at that and we see that now for us, there's no problem because we

00:43:25.240 can see that. Okay. Come on. This is obviously metaphorical, poetic language. Uh, we, we still

00:43:31.280 today talk about the sun going up and down and rising and setting. And we don't mean it literally.

00:43:35.540 Of course, we know that the earth is going around. And so the sun really isn't moving in relation to

00:43:40.720 the earth, but we say that poetically metaphorically. Yes, exactly. It's clear to us now

00:43:47.020 that that's what, how the Bible meant it. It wasn't clear for 1500 years. And it's only clear to us

00:43:55.440 because we understand the science now and that's what makes it clear. And so I would say that it's

00:44:03.400 the same thing when it comes to the, the old earth, et cetera. Okay. Um, uh, let's see from Jordan 0.95

00:44:13.740 says, I wanted to give my thoughts on the issue of evolution versus creationism. I've studied it

00:44:17.300 pretty extensively. It was taught evolution in school. Um, even at my time at a Christian college,

00:44:21.480 I have two primary reasons why I don't believe the theory of evolution as it is presented. One

00:44:24.960 is scientific. The other is theological. The example you gave with the moths was a good point. My

00:44:29.280 understanding is that you would classify those changes within species as micro evolution. Many

00:44:33.520 dogs come from one common set of ancestors. I believe in that. And I think it's undeniable.

00:44:38.680 I take issue with my macro evolution of the gradual ascent over billions of years from a single

00:44:44.300 celled organism into what we see today. My issue with it is the irreducible complexities within a

00:44:49.200 cell create a statistically unachievable chance of all coming together at once. Not only that,

00:44:53.160 but then there would have to be multiple cells that achieve that improbability within the same

00:44:56.980 lifespan in order to procreate. It is, it is the evolution from one living kind to the next

00:45:00.480 that I do not accept as provable and reliable. DNA loses information generationally and macro evolution

00:45:05.760 would require an addition of information to create more complex organisms. There are many

00:45:10.000 people in the scientific community that reject the theory and they do so at the risk of their

00:45:14.080 careers. I don't see the evidence being as ironclad as you made it seem. Even a 1% difference of DNA

00:45:19.440 creates an enormous gap between species. I would think it makes sense that an upright being sharing

00:45:24.000 similar traits to humans would have the most similar DNA, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they

00:45:29.260 both are from the same tree or that came from that single celled organism. Theologically, my issue is the

00:45:35.560 evolution requires death and suffering which didn't enter into the world until the fall of man. Even

00:45:39.240 the New Testament reiterated that it was from one man that sin entered the world which brought death.

00:45:44.260 Unless Adam was the single celled organism, I don't see how those work together.

00:45:47.720 Okay, so you know, I kind of regret giving the moth example because a lot of people have zeroed in on

00:45:53.440 that and that's not what I intended. I just wanted to give a very simple example of how an organism

00:45:58.200 might change gradually by genetic mutation and natural selection. Now, yeah, so you put that aside.

00:46:03.920 I didn't mean for that to be the central centerpiece of my argument. It's just one small example to help

00:46:10.320 visualize how this works. I think we struggle sometimes to figure out how exactly would this

00:46:15.420 work. A change in color is a very slight change, but that's just 100, 200 years. On a cosmic scale,

00:46:21.460 that's nothing. That might as well be five minutes. That's just nothing. And I think this is where people

00:46:27.180 struggle because it's so difficult for all of us to conceive of a million years, let alone a billion

00:46:35.180 years. A change in wind color in 100 years is very slight, but multiply that change, that degree of

00:46:43.120 change, which is so, so slight, multiply it by 100 million years and then tell me what you end up with.

00:46:49.860 The common ancestor between insects and humans, I believe, goes back like 500 million years or

00:46:55.620 further. So, um, 500 million years. I mean, think about 500 million years. Human civilization,

00:47:04.440 uh, about this, writing. Humans have only had the ability to write for 5,000 years. Writing is only

00:47:11.560 5,000 years old. Before 5,000 years ago, we couldn't write. Now think about 500 million years,

00:47:20.520 okay? Think about how, how vast an expanse of time that really is. You talk about irreducible, uh, so,

00:47:29.060 so, okay, one other point. Um, wolves, you mentioned dogs. Dogs are a better example. I should have used

00:47:34.800 that rather than wolves. Poodles. Okay. So, uh, it is generally accepted now by scientists that,

00:47:40.400 that, um, as you mentioned, all dogs come from wolves. They all descend from, from wolves. They

00:47:45.140 have a, they have a, they have a common ancestor with wolves, with the modern wolf. Um, okay. So

00:47:51.800 if we went, let's say dogs have been domesticated for 7,000 years. In 7,000 years, we went from wolves

00:48:00.040 to poodles. Is it really that hard to imagine that in 7 million years, we could go from the

00:48:08.080 apes to human? Really, dogs have been domesticated probably for 10 or 15,000 years, but you get my

00:48:13.960 point. You talk about irreducible complexity. I think, um, that's not really, uh, uh, a problem.

00:48:21.180 Um, one example that people often give is the eye. You didn't give that example, but that's a common

00:48:26.900 one. I got a lot of emails talking about the eye, basically saying that, you know, you can't do

00:48:30.640 anything with half an eye. So there's no way to gradually get from no eye to an eye, but I think,

00:48:35.980 or a wing is another common example. I think that's not actually true because you can do a lot

00:48:39.740 with half an eye. I mean, half an eye is better than no eye. Uh, and if you look in the animal

00:48:43.380 kingdom and in the fossil record, you find all kinds of examples of creatures with different stages of

00:48:48.940 eye and different stages of wing going from blind to, to sensitive, to light, to able to

00:48:55.700 distinguish shapes and then on and on and up till you get to the human eye and beyond that.

00:49:00.080 And you get like eagle eyes, which are better than ours. Same with wings. You know, um, you've

00:49:04.400 got, you've got some animals with no wings. You've got some animals that have the ability to glide.

00:49:08.360 You have other animals that can fly a little bit, other animals that can fly a lot and much higher

00:49:12.440 and further and longer and faster. So, so you see the, the gradation of, of wing, the gradation of eye.

00:49:18.820 And so I just don't think that that's true. As for the death before the fall, Thomas Aquinas,

00:49:23.380 among many other theologians have said that the curse of the fall applied to humans, not animals,

00:49:29.240 which makes sense when you think about it, because why should animals be punished? That seems unjust

00:49:33.240 really. Why would animals be punished? Just because of something that Adam and Eve did. Um, I, I, so I

00:49:38.180 don't think you need to interpret it that way, that, that, that there was no animal death before the fall.

00:49:42.860 I think that that is one way you could interpret it. I don't think you have to interpret it that way.

00:49:47.480 Um, especially because the fossil record very clearly shows that there was death before the fall and

00:49:51.860 rules it out. And so that kind of helps us, I think, clarify and figure out what's going on.

00:49:56.860 And also you have to factor in the distinction between physical and spiritual death. God says

00:50:00.440 to Adam, um, if you eat the apple on that day, you should die. Well, he doesn't die on that day,

00:50:05.220 as we know. Why is that? Because he was talking about spiritual death. So there are different

00:50:08.800 forms of death as it were, uh, that are also being referred to. So I think that helps you

00:50:13.720 sort through it as well. Uh, this is from Lizzie says, I thought your segment on evolution was terribly

00:50:17.660 uninformed. I really lose, lost a lot of respect for you. I knew that you had been

00:50:21.400 duped into accepting the older theory rather than the biblical account, but I had not realized that

00:50:25.820 you were a Darwinist. Highly disappointing. There were too many errors to count, but here's just

00:50:29.800 one. You said that no discovery has disproven evolution. You're wrong. The Cambrian, the Cambrian

00:50:34.300 explosion makes evolution totally unworkable. You need to do more research. Lizzie, uh, I got a lot

00:50:40.300 of emails about the Cambrian explosion. Okay. Uh, disproving evolution somehow. Okay. Let me ask you

00:50:44.380 this, Lizzie. What is the Cambrian explosion? What is it? Say it with me. It is the sudden appearance

00:50:50.680 in the fossil record of many different animal species, 540 million years ago. That's the

00:50:58.620 Cambrian explosion. That's what it is. That, that is what it is. So when you talk about the 1.00

00:51:04.080 Cambrian explosion, that's what you're talking about. Now, how could you cite as evidence for

00:51:08.560 your position in an event that disproves your position? It's amazing to me. You believe the

00:51:14.640 earth is 6,000 years old. The Cambrian explosion supports me, not you, but, but, uh, of course you

00:51:21.980 do what I said earlier. You take the bits of scientific discovery that help you while throwing

00:51:26.700 away the very methods that were used to discover it and discarding everything that doesn't help you.

00:51:31.800 And there is no logical system for this other than you have your conclusion you're trying to support

00:51:36.860 and you're only going to take the stuff that works with it. That's just, that's not a valid logical

00:51:42.240 process of evaluating this stuff. Um, so arbitrarily, this is how absurd it gets. You know, I'm not

00:51:49.640 trying to insult you, but, but you arbitrarily you take, you have the Cambrian explosion. You take the

00:51:55.920 explosion because you like that. You get rid of the Cambrian part. So you want the explosion, but you

00:52:02.000 don't want it in the, in the Cambrian period, which was 500 to 40 million years ago. You can't do that.

00:52:07.340 It's not, it's just, it's, it's not fair in an argument to do that. You see, it makes the argument

00:52:13.040 impossible. If you're going to do that, you got to, you got to play by logical rules so that we can

00:52:16.980 have a discussion, but doing something like that, pulling the Cambrian explosion to prove that the

00:52:24.300 earth is 6,000 years old. It, it, and so I got so many emails with this and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sort of

00:52:31.140 stunned by it because it's just, you're to use evidence. I mean, it's, it's, it's almost like

00:52:40.620 if you're accused of murder and, uh, to prove your innocence, you produce the murder weapon with your

00:52:47.000 fingerprints on it. It's just, it's mind boggling. That's the smoke. It's literally the smoking gun

00:52:52.900 that's going to put you away. And you just presented it like you thought it was going to

00:52:55.980 exonerate you. The Cambrian explosion, the fact that the Cambrian period existed

00:52:59.860 you're done. I mean, you're, your whole thing is done there. Um, so the Cambrian explosion is a big

00:53:06.960 problem for you. It's not for me. Uh, first of all, there, this explosion happened over,

00:53:10.740 this happened over the period of 20 million years. So it wasn't like all at once. It was 20 million

00:53:14.780 years of evolutionary history, kind of a long time. Um, second, there are other areas in the fossil

00:53:21.220 record where you have explosions of sorts. Usually that marks an extinction, major extinction event

00:53:26.540 that preceded it, um, of which there have been several in earth's history. Third, as I said

00:53:31.880 yesterday, the vast majority of life forms do not fossilize for various reasons. Um, especially,

00:53:37.140 especially, uh, you know, the, the, uh, it takes certain conditions, conditions, uh, in the earth,

00:53:45.720 on the earth, in the climate to facilitate and precipitate fossilization. And so most life forms

00:53:52.200 will never fossilize. And even the ones that do most of those, we're not going to find because

00:53:56.440 we're not excavating the entire earth to find them, especially if it's buried under, uh, you know, uh,

00:54:02.560 2,000 feet of water or something. So, um, fourth, not every species is found in the Cambrian period.

00:54:09.040 Some appeared later, which again points to evolution. Fifth, the evolutionary model does not,

00:54:13.300 does not provide a full explanation for the Cambrian explosion. That's true because it's not possible

00:54:18.600 to fully explain something that happened half a billion years ago, but the young earth model

00:54:22.620 provides no explanation for it whatsoever because the young earth model claims that the earth didn't

00:54:28.080 exist when it happened. So that's, that's the problem you're going to run into. And I think

00:54:34.160 it's a big problem. Uh, last thing. Do I have, okay. All right. One more, one more thing we'll do

00:54:39.360 here real quick. This is from Steven says, Matt, you put too much weight on genetics just because

00:54:42.400 we're 99% matched with chimps in our DNA. It doesn't mean that we're related. Couldn't God have designed

00:54:46.680 us that way separately. If DNA is a building block of life, uh, and chimps look a lot like us, 0.75

00:54:51.600 doesn't it make sense that they have the same building blocks? Doesn't mean that we're related.

00:54:55.600 Yeah, Steven, sure. God could do it however he wants. That's for sure. But, but this is something

00:54:59.040 that I noticed that people do. Another thing that is common, um, is where they go, well,

00:55:05.900 God could have done it this way. And then based on that argument, they conclude that he did do it that

00:55:11.540 way. But, but, but, but that kind of logic, um, just doesn't work because that kind of logic can

00:55:19.820 justify any conclusion by this logic. You are justified in believing anything that is logically

00:55:27.060 possible. You see, you can believe that leprechauns exist on the basis simply that God could have made

00:55:36.200 them. They could exist. They are possible. It is feasible. So therefore they exist. You see,

00:55:43.200 but you can't do that. What we're asking is we're not asking what's possible. We're asking what's

00:55:49.160 probable. What's, what's most plausible. What's most likely based on the evidence. Where does the

00:55:54.500 evidence point? Generally speaking, do the similarities in our DNA and yes, our appearance objectively point

00:56:01.180 towards a relationship or away? Yes, we could have those similarities and not be related. We could,

00:56:07.760 that's true, but do the similarities actually objectively point away from the relationship?

00:56:13.520 So if I were to ask you, why do you think the chimps and humans aren't related? Would you say,

00:56:19.020 well, because they look so much alike and their DNA is 99% matched? No, you wouldn't say that because

00:56:23.240 that's not, that's, that's, that's something you have to work around and explain. That's, that's not

00:56:28.520 evidence pointing in your direction. You must admit at least that the physical similarities and the,

00:56:35.000 the genetic similarities between chimpanzees, at least are evidence in the corner of people who,

00:56:40.800 who, who affirm evolution. Okay. So that, that's something you got to deal with. It's, it's not,

00:56:47.900 that's not in your corner. That's over here, but you can't deal with it by saying, well, yeah,

00:56:53.320 but it could be this way. So you have to give evidence that it was that way.

00:57:01.600 Look, if, if, if, if we want to talk about coulds, yeah, we look like chimps.

00:57:10.640 Now we, we look similar to chimpanzees, but we don't, God could have done it any way he wanted,

00:57:18.240 you know, and, and, and you say, well, DNA is a building block of life. So of course we look to say,

00:57:21.940 well, God didn't need to, God didn't even need to use DNA. We could have no DNA.

00:57:26.380 DNA is not logically necessary. God could have made people any way he wanted.

00:57:31.000 Um, God didn't need to make chimps and, and, and human beings look the same. God didn't need to

00:57:35.880 make our DNA the same. God didn't need to give us DNA at all. God didn't even need to make chimpanzees

00:57:40.180 at all. Yet he did. Right. And so, and he did, and he also made it. So they look very similar.

00:57:48.960 They have very similar genetics, very similar DNA. Uh, that's how he made it. And so now we have to

00:57:55.560 ask ourselves, why are those similarities there? It is that we certainly have the appearance of a

00:58:04.920 relationship. My explanation for that is we have an appearance of a relationship because we are

00:58:11.600 related. So I have a very simple explanation. I have an explanation, Occam's razor. I have an

00:58:15.980 explanation that doesn't really require any additional assumptions or, or, or anything. It's

00:58:22.100 just, why do we look the same? Why does it appear like we're related? Well, because we are. Okay.

00:58:26.880 Simple explanation. Your explanation is, well, you don't really have one. Your, your explanation is,

00:58:32.700 well, you know, could be this way. Maybe God did it that way because of this or that, or this or that.

00:58:37.720 You know, you've got this very complex, complicated thing that you're doing leading to no conclusion at

00:58:44.780 all really. Um, and I think you do have a serious theological problem in that, uh, it would seem

00:58:57.940 that if we are not related and if evolution is not true, then it would seem like God certainly made

00:59:05.860 things to look like it's true. And what is God doing? Deceiving us? It's the same thing that young 0.64

00:59:11.920 earthers do with the, with the, uh, speed of light. Okay. Well, the distant light problem for,

00:59:18.480 for young earth creation is, uh, I think a devastating problem insurmountable because we know

00:59:23.000 that the light light travels a certain distance in a year. So if we look at a, at a light, at a,

00:59:27.760 at a star that's four light years away, we're looking four years in the past because that light

00:59:32.480 that's reaching our eyeballs now took four years to get there. Right? Well, the problem for young 0.87

00:59:37.160 earth creationists is that we can see stars that are millions of light years away, which means we're

00:59:42.820 looking millions of years into the past because that's how long it took because it took that long

00:59:48.320 for the light to get to us. Okay. I mean, we can literally look into the past as if we have a time

00:59:56.360 machine and we can see how old the universe is. That's how, that's how scientists do it. So what,

01:00:04.020 how do young earthers get around that? Well, they say the same thing they do with the chimpanzee thing.

01:00:07.840 They say, well, I mean, it, it could be that light traveled faster before, you know, maybe a

01:00:13.480 thousands of years ago, light traveled a lot, lot that would need to travel a lot faster to make up

01:00:17.940 that distance. But, uh, so maybe thousands of years ago, light traveled exponentially faster. It could

01:00:23.600 be, it could be that way. It's possible. God could have done that. Yeah, he could have, it is possible,

01:00:30.600 but there's no reason to think that you just, just, and you certainly can't get from it could be to it

01:00:38.140 definitely was without any step in between just because it could, doesn't justify your conviction

01:00:44.920 that it definitely was that way. But in order to maintain the young earth thing, you must, uh,

01:00:52.280 you must conclude based on a could, you must conclude definitely that light traveled much

01:01:00.760 faster in the past, even though there's no evidence and no real reason to think that you see. So that's,

01:01:06.240 it's just, again, it's a, it's an illogical process. It's an invalid illogical process that is used,

01:01:15.920 I think, to support a lot of these conclusions. All right. That was fun. Um, I enjoyed that.

01:01:24.040 Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. And we will leave it there. Have a great weekend. Uh,

01:01:29.900 I'll see you on Monday. As long as the baby doesn't come in between, uh, I will see you on Monday.

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The Matt Walsh Show - September 27, 2019

Ep. 341 - Protesting Is Not A Job

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