The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 343 - Media Pushes Yet Another Hate Crime Hoax

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00:01:11.480 disappointed. 2,000 years of waiting, and the new Jesus comes on a mission to reduce carbon

00:01:18.400 emissions. Not exactly what we were anticipating, but what can you do? Plenty to discuss today,

00:01:25.540 beginning with another hate crime hoax that the media fell for, as usual, hook, line, and sinker,

00:01:31.280 and also, as usual, one that put people's lives in jeopardy. And we're going to talk about that in a

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00:03:11.000 All right. Here's an interesting question to ponder as we get into the first topic of the day.

00:03:20.520 What does it tell you about a country if the members of the supposedly oppressed segments of

00:03:27.560 its population are constantly inventing instances of oppression? What does it tell you about a

00:03:34.540 systematically racist country if examples of systemic racism have to be fabricated out of

00:03:41.320 whole cloth constantly? I think maybe it tells you that the oppressed populations aren't actually

00:03:50.020 oppressed, which is a good thing, right? That's good news. That's something to celebrate. 1.00

00:03:55.680 When the demand for oppression has exceeded the supply, that is a very good indication that you

00:04:05.040 don't really have an oppression problem in your country. You do have other problems. The fact that

00:04:11.940 people want to be oppressed is a cultural problem, but the problem is not systemic oppression.

00:04:18.600 That's something to think about as we continue along today. Now,

00:04:21.220 you may remember the story of Amari Allen, the sixth grade girl who claimed that a bunch of

00:04:27.820 racist white boys at a Christian school that she attends staged a brutal, racist, horrific attack

00:04:35.580 against her. And rather than me recounting her claim, let's take a trip down memory lane and look at 0.97

00:04:43.420 the CBS report about this alleged incident. This is from about a week ago. And this is what this is

00:04:50.440 how CNN reported it. Where were a minister? Where were anybody to protect her from this heinous crime?

00:05:00.700 Cynthia Allen is overwhelmed with frustration after learning what her 12 year old granddaughter,

00:05:05.460 Amari, went through on this school playground Monday. You guys have she, I mean.

00:05:10.900 Amari is a sixth grader at the private Emmanuel Christian School in Springfield, Virginia,

00:05:16.420 the place where second lady Karen Pence teaches. Amari tells WUSA 9 she's been bullied for weeks.

00:05:23.300 Sometimes I think that I don't deserve to be there at a Christian school and everything and that 0.76

00:05:31.700 I'm ugly. She says three sixth grade boys won't let up taking her school lunches, calling her names,

00:05:38.260 and more recently an attack on the school playground. Like all three were around me

00:05:42.580 and then one of them put my hands behind my back, one of them cover my mouth. All while she says a

00:05:48.060 third student pulled out scissors, then cut her hair. Her lengthy dreadlocks now hanging unevenly. 0.95

00:05:54.180 Like took like big chunks of my hair and just cut. So that was the report. And there was at CBS,

00:06:01.140 but every major news outlet had a story like that. They were all over this story. We should mention,

00:06:06.540 might as well mention because the media mentioned it many times. Although I don't believe it was

00:06:11.220 mentioned in that report. At least I didn't notice it. Karen Pence, Mike Pence's wife,

00:06:16.460 works at this school, which is a fact that many left-wing sites were only too eager to point out

00:06:23.640 when this story first broke. Just one example here, the left-wing rag Raw story had this headline.

00:06:29.920 Their headline was, uh, white boys attack classmate and cut off her dreadlocks at school

00:06:35.380 where Mike Pence's wife teaches. And here's a headline from another obscure left-wing rag called

00:06:41.680 Newsweek. Sixth graders hold down classmate, cut her dreadlocks at private Christian school 0.97

00:06:47.120 where Karen Pence teaches. Why is it necessary to tie Mike Pence to this? That's the question.

00:06:54.860 Now it isn't, obviously, except for the, before we even get to the fact that this whole story is BS,

00:07:01.840 which it is, by the way, that's the twist ending here. Um, but, but, you know, except for the fact

00:07:07.660 there's, there's no reason to bring Mike Pence into this as they did just because his wife works there,

00:07:13.140 except for the fact that the left has a Mike Pence obsession. They have a Mike Pence fever and the only

00:07:18.300 prescription is more Mike Pence. They just can't stop talking about the guy. They, they, they are obsessed

00:07:23.040 with him. And so they bring everything back to Mike Pence if they can. And certainly they weren't

00:07:26.600 going to let this opportunity to drag his name through the mud, go to waste. Now, uh, and, and,

00:07:33.780 and of course reporting that a racist attack happened at a school where Mike Pence's wife teaches,

00:07:40.320 that would be like saying that there was an armed robbery at a store where Barack Obama's wife shops.

00:07:46.280 It's just, it's irrelevant. Unless there's a reason to think that there's some connection.

00:07:53.520 Um, but of course there wasn't anyway, getting, as I said, to the surprise twist shock ending,

00:07:59.960 this was all, this was all bogus, untrue. The girl made it up. Um, after the media reported this story

00:08:07.760 uncritically amplifying the claims with zero skepticism, you, you heard that. And I'll give you some,

00:08:15.440 some more examples in a moment, but that newsweek headline was, there were two problems with it.

00:08:22.520 One is it tied Mike, uh, Mike Pence's wife, Karen Pence to it, but also there was no allegedly no

00:08:29.200 claims, nothing like that. Just said sixth graders hold down classmate and cut her dreadlocks,

00:08:33.600 dreadlocks. They just, they reported that as a fact, but it was not a fact. It was made up.

00:08:39.140 Uh, Amari, Amari Allen, the girl admits now that she made it up. Her grandparents issued a statement

00:08:44.440 yesterday. Uh, they said partly to those young boys and their parents. We sincerely apologize for

00:08:50.220 the pain and anxiety. These allegations have caused to the administrators and families of

00:08:54.380 Emanuel Christian school. We are sorry for the damage this incident has done to trust within the school

00:08:59.440 family and the undue scorn and has brought to the school to the broader community who rallied in

00:09:03.960 support for our daughter. We apologize for betraying your trust. Now I don't, um, I don't necessarily

00:09:11.920 blame the grandparents for this. As far as I know, they had nothing to do with making this story up.

00:09:19.260 Um, they were told this by their granddaughter and they believed it. And I guess you can't really

00:09:26.000 blame them for believing it. Um, and you know, the thing is, I don't really blame the girl either

00:09:34.200 because she's a kid and she made up a story and that's what kids do. She should be punished for 1.00

00:09:41.160 sure because it's a very bad thing to do. Um, but I think the lion's share of the blame should go to

00:09:48.960 the adults in the situation who should have known better adults who for instance, work in the media.

00:09:55.380 So we've gone over how these media vultures tried to tie Karen Pence to this tighter to this without 1.00

00:10:01.520 verifying a that it happened and be that she had any knowledge of it or any way to prevent it or had

00:10:07.900 any association with this event whatsoever. This event didn't actually happen as it turns out.

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00:11:32.880 Um, just think about how, about, about, about some of these other headlines reporting on this story

00:11:39.020 originally like this from the BBC. Uh, here's, here's the BBC's headline last week. White students 0.99

00:11:44.540 cut off black girls dreadlocks in Virginia. They put cut off in quotes there, but there is no 0.98

00:11:51.720 allegedly, um, no words like claims or says or reports, just the allegation unconfirmed reported

00:12:01.920 as objective fact right in the headline or this from the daily, uh, the New York daily news girls dreadlocks

00:12:09.160 shorn off by three sixth grade boy classmates who held her down colon family. So you see what they

00:12:15.960 did there. They put colon family at the end as a way to pretend that they're being skeptical when

00:12:21.380 really they weren't because all people are going to going to notice is they're going to notice the

00:12:26.280 girls dreadlocks shorn off by white boys. That's all they're going to notice when a media outlet is 0.98

00:12:31.200 just a, just a good rule of thumb. Um, oftentimes when a media outlet wants to report an unsubstantiated

00:12:38.120 allegation as fact, but they want to do it in a way that gives them plausible deniability so that

00:12:44.000 if it turns out, so if it's exposed as unsubstantiated or as false, they can always say,

00:12:48.440 Hey, you know, we, we never said it really happened. What they'll do is they'll, they'll put the

00:12:52.900 allegation in the headline. And at the very end of the headline, they'll put a colon report or colon

00:13:00.420 family or something like that. Um, or even like a comma report says, so it would be like man abducted

00:13:10.320 by alien squids from Neptune report says, or how about the website essence says 12 year old girl

00:13:19.220 gets her beautiful locks cut off in school hate crime. But even the headlines that, that have 1.00

00:13:26.380 appropriate qualifiers are bad like this from an NBC affiliate says sixth grades, uh, sixth grader

00:13:32.400 says classmate cut her dreadlocks at school where Karen Pence teaches. So you've got the says in there

00:13:38.400 at least. So that's good. But here's the real issue. Um, no matter how you report it, it's going to be a

00:13:47.620 problem. And the real problem is that you're reporting it in the first place because we've seen this movie

00:13:55.600 before, we've seen this movie many times. We've been through this. We know that people make stuff

00:14:02.340 like this up all the time, which means that the absence of real evidence, if all we have is he said,

00:14:10.640 she said that a responsible journalist, a responsible media outlet that actually cares about the truth and

00:14:17.500 wants to, and wants to do the right thing, um, wouldn't report the story at all. So they,

00:14:25.380 they always can find cover for themselves by saying, Hey, we didn't know it was a fake story.

00:14:32.060 We, she said it happened. And so we reported what she said. And Hey, if it did happen,

00:14:37.040 it would have been a big deal. Okay. Until there is real evidence to report the outlandish story

00:14:45.680 told by a child without doing any kind of due diligence or any kind of verification

00:14:52.220 is malpractice. See that this, this really isn't hard. When I first heard this story,

00:14:59.300 I, you, you probably had the same reaction as me if you, because you're a thinking person,

00:15:03.140 unlike our folks in media. When I first heard this story a week ago or whenever it was

00:15:08.300 and I saw the headlines, my immediate reaction was, yeah, right. My immediate reaction was a kind

00:15:17.720 of sideways glance. Eh, I don't think so. But I immediately thought, um, now I didn't say that

00:15:25.300 publicly because I didn't have evidence. And so just like you can't report unsubstantiated allegations

00:15:31.900 as fact without evidence, you also can't come out and say, Oh, I know for a fact that didn't happen

00:15:36.440 unless you have evidence. So I'm not going to come out. And that's, and that's, that's one of

00:15:39.960 the things the media knows this, right? They know that, um, they can report this unsubstantiated

00:15:44.840 stuff and you've got a, you've got a, uh, you know, a young, a child saying that she was brutally

00:15:50.920 attacked. Well, nobody's going to want to come out against a child and say, no, I think the girl's

00:15:55.760 lying. No, one's going to say that, especially if we don't have any, if, if the only reason why we

00:16:00.340 think it is just gut instinct, which is what it was for me, that's not going to be enough.

00:16:04.720 It's not enough for me to come out publicly and say, I think she's lying, even though I thought

00:16:08.380 she was. Um, so the responsible thing, what most of us did, what I did, what most people,

00:16:16.700 I just didn't say anything about it. I didn't say anything one way or another. Just wait a minute.

00:16:22.580 Because once the cops get involved, which they did here, the cops are going to figure it out.

00:16:27.520 That's, you gave cops credit for this. They have, they really have no trouble sniffing out these

00:16:31.780 fake hate crimes. They can kind of tell right away because with something like this, if it really

00:16:37.700 happened, there should be a lot of evidence that it happened. And, uh, and there, so it doesn't take

00:16:44.440 them long to sort it out like they did here. So when, when we see things like this, um, from the

00:16:54.720 beginning, what we should say to ourselves is, Hmm, okay, here's the claim. It's certainly a

00:17:02.080 dramatic claim. And if this did happen, it's a horrible thing, but there are two explanations

00:17:10.280 that could, uh, account for why this claim is being made.

00:17:15.980 One explanation is a group of race, racist children at a Christian school really did stage

00:17:22.980 a brutal premeditated hate crime in the middle of the school day, um, involving a deadly weapon,

00:17:30.320 which would be the scissors, which no teachers apparently noticed. So there's that explanation

00:17:35.940 or a child made up a story, which is more likely all things being equal. If you have no evidence

00:17:45.960 either way, which is more likely, which is more likely to happen in one scenario, you need

00:17:52.060 several children to have done something extraordinarily evil. And on the other scenario,

00:17:58.140 you need one kid to have done something bad, but something that kids do all the time, which

00:18:04.280 is makeup stories. Obviously the more likely scenario is the, is the, is the latter scenario,

00:18:10.620 which doesn't mean that the former is impossible. It just means that the latter is more likely.

00:18:15.960 Um, but why am I even bothering to explain this? Because we know that the media knows exactly

00:18:21.340 what it's doing. Um, we know that the media, it's not like they don't know how to look into

00:18:28.600 a story or they don't know how to look into the background of something and verify and do their

00:18:33.480 due diligence. They know how to do it. They're just selective about when they do it. So when a black 1.00

00:18:39.620 girl tells a wild story about white boys holding her down and cutting her hair off, um, the media 0.95

00:18:45.560 will report it without doing any background or making any attempt to verify any aspect

00:18:50.940 of the story whatsoever. But when, for example, a white guy raises money for sick kids, then

00:18:58.360 the media digs into his past to find out what he tweeted in high school. Now, all of a sudden

00:19:02.920 they're skeptical. Now, all of a sudden they want to know what's really going on. So they

00:19:07.820 see that they see a white guy donating money. They say, what's, what's really going on here?

00:19:11.080 Hey, find, get, find out what's going on with this guy. Um, that's when they're interested

00:19:18.920 in their, in their due diligence. Just, just vultures. This is not a victimless crime, by

00:19:24.800 the way. Um, what the media has done here in this case is not victimless. Uh, just like

00:19:33.040 it, it never is victimless. It wasn't victimless with the Covington Catholic. It wasn't even victimless

00:19:38.840 in, in, uh, in, in the case of the justice billet, uh, hoax, because what you're doing

00:19:44.920 is you're fanning the flames of hatred. You're causing division. Um, and especially when, with

00:19:52.860 this school, I've, I've talked to some of the parents who have kids at this school, I've

00:20:00.120 gotten messages and emails from them telling me what's been going on at this school. And

00:20:05.500 it has been chaos for the last week. It's torn the school apart. Um, it's brought all this

00:20:12.480 negative attention on the school. There are people online saying horrible things about the

00:20:17.760 school, the people that teach there, the kids that go to school there. And I put this all

00:20:24.220 on the media. I really do. I put it a hundred percent at their feet. In a, to be honest, in

00:20:32.900 a way, I, I feel sorry for the girl too. Um, because I kind of doubt that she thought it

00:20:42.460 would, it would get to this level. I, I, it's, I don't know what exactly led her to making

00:20:47.180 up this story, but I'm sure part of it was she wanted attention, which, as I said, kids

00:20:52.300 make up stories for attention all the time. My, my kids do that. They don't do it on this

00:20:56.140 level. Uh, but, uh, but you know, kids do that. It's something all kids do sometimes.

00:21:01.620 And it's, so I, I, I say, look, it's, kids are going to act like kids. And, uh, and that's

00:21:08.940 why the adults have to be adults to protect them from themselves. So it's not even just

00:21:17.780 for the sake of the other kids at that schools, particularly the white kids who have been framed

00:21:22.060 as racist. They're the primary victims, but even this girl, responsible adults would protect

00:21:30.220 her from herself. And when she comes telling this story, rather than putting her all over

00:21:35.000 TV and setting her up for this failure, which is going to haunt her now for the rest of her

00:21:39.980 life, rather than that, they could have been responsible if they really cared about her.

00:21:46.320 So they can't even claim that, uh, that, Oh, well, we're, we're, you know, we're just so

00:21:50.700 against racism and we cared so much for this girl that we, we, we had to, uh, we couldn't

00:21:55.500 help ourselves, but to come to her defense, if you really cared about her, you would use

00:22:01.180 your brain and say, okay, there's a good chance she's making this up. It doesn't make sense.

00:22:05.440 It's a crazy story. And so we're not going to put her all out there and set her up for public 0.64

00:22:10.700 humiliation, which is exactly what they did. Uh, it's, it's, it's detestable.

00:22:23.000 And it's not just the media either. We can't just put it on the medias,

00:22:26.460 put this at the feet of the media. It goes, it's a hundred percent their fault, but then it's also

00:22:30.840 the fault of the average people on social media who see stories like this in a way, you know,

00:22:38.320 they call it social media for a reason, right? In a way, we're all part of the media. Now,

00:22:43.300 if you have a social media account, you now participate in amplifying, spreading,

00:22:52.040 in effect, reporting these kinds of stories. And so I think we, that's a responsibility we have to

00:22:59.820 take seriously. And when you doesn't take a lot of effort just to hit retweet on Twitter or to hit

00:23:04.940 share on Facebook, but when you do that with a story, without doing any, without, without doing

00:23:11.000 any due diligence on your own part, I think when we do that, there's responsibility on us too.

00:23:18.420 We should also be saying, we hear a story like that. We should say, eh, hold on a second.

00:23:23.520 I don't know about this. I'm, you know, let's wait. I can wait a little bit. I don't need,

00:23:27.400 it's not like I don't need to retweet it right now. Everyone else is already doing it. I don't need

00:23:32.140 to retweet it. I don't need to share it. I don't need to say anything about it. If it really

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00:26:09.340 dancer. Um, and, and don't take my word for it. Here he is. I think this was his performance last night

00:26:14.600 dancing. I don't know what kind of dance this is supposed to be, but watch this.

00:26:44.600 I mean, I mean, come on, that's I'm no dancer myself, but Sean Spicer, he's not even doing

00:27:08.340 anything. First of all, he's, he stands there while people, while other people dance around him.

00:27:12.920 And then every once in a while, on occasion, he'll wiggle, wiggle his body out of rhythm with

00:27:17.060 everybody else. And then he, and then he starts standing there again. You know, who's a better

00:27:21.620 dancer? The guy from the Trudeau blackface video yesterday, he's a better dancer. In fact, in fact,

00:27:28.500 the other guy from the Trudeau blackface video is a better dancer too. This guy, remember him?

00:27:33.120 Um, this guy's actually very talented. I think that's a great, that's a great impression of an

00:27:38.160 ostrich, but Spicer, he, he turns me into a dance snob and I can barely walk to the kitchen without

00:27:45.540 tripping over the couch. Okay. That's how, that's how uncoordinated and clumsy I am. And, uh, you know

00:27:52.140 how I dance? This is how I dance. This is how most awkward white people, when, when you're in a, 0.62

00:27:57.260 at a wedding or something and you're in a position where people are dancing. Uh, this is me. I'll show

00:28:01.580 you, I'll show you my dance moves. This is my dance move. I'll show you right now. This is me.

00:28:05.620 This is how I dance. And sometimes what I'll even do is if I really want to get, if I'm really

00:28:13.300 getting into it and I'm feeling the rhythm, then I'll, I'll add this move into it. Watch this move.

00:28:20.320 You see the thumb? So I'm doing a little thumb, a little head, a little thumb.

00:28:24.500 So that's my, that's my, this is me dancing at every wedding I've ever been to. This is me dancing.

00:28:30.120 And if people look over and they want, and they, they're trying to usher me to the dance floor. I just

00:28:35.020 yeah, good. So that's me that what I just did there. That's better. I should be on dancing

00:28:41.780 with the stars. I should be on dancing with the stars. Give me a desk or a table and I'll just

00:28:46.580 sit there and this will be, and I, and vote me through because if you're voting Sean Spicer

00:28:49.880 through that, I should get through on that. Uh, I get the joke. You're voting him through

00:28:55.080 because, because he's bad. I understand that. It's a, that's a, that's trolling. That's a tried

00:29:00.460 and true American tradition. Now this goes back to who was the guy on, uh, American idol. I think

00:29:06.460 the first, the first, he was the first person to ever be trolled through one of these talent

00:29:11.800 competitions. Who was, who was the guy? I forget his name. A terrible singer, but he kept getting

00:29:15.960 voted through because it was funny that he was bad and he was getting through. So I get it, but

00:29:21.460 there's something that I think I, that I believe in more than trolling and that I think is even more

00:29:27.060 American than trolling. And that is rewarding excellence. I don't believe in participation

00:29:32.920 trophies. Spicer is a terrible dancer, just like me, even though I'm better. And in America,

00:29:41.160 when people are terrible at things, we let them know it not by rewarding them. Okay. No, we,

00:29:49.220 we reward X. So if you're good at something, we're going to applaud you. Uh, but if you're bad at it,

00:29:56.600 we are going to heap scorn and ridicule on you. And that is the American way that's the American 0.95

00:30:03.980 dream, the American way of life. So when you vote Spicer throwing on, on, on, on, uh, dancing

00:30:10.700 with the stars, you are, you are destroying the American way and the American dream. So I beg you

00:30:20.640 to stop it. Please stop. It's not right. It is, it is immoral, immoral. That's what I say.

00:30:26.600 But still kind of funny. So let me, uh, before we get to emails, let me chime in for just a minute

00:30:35.000 on this civil war thing. I figured I want to talk about dancing with the stars first,

00:30:40.420 and then we'll get to the less important matter of the potential for another American civil war.

00:30:45.680 I think, you know, talk about civil war. In fact, if Spicer gets through and wins dancing with the stars,

00:30:51.240 I think there might be a civil war over that. And, and for good reason. Um, but as you, you heard,

00:30:59.140 there's been a lot of discussion and outrage over the last couple of days because Trump tweeted a quote

00:31:05.560 from his lackey, uh, Robert Jeffress saying that impeachment will lead to, uh, to civil war. That's

00:31:14.480 what Jeffress said. And Trump retweeted it, quoted it, actually didn't retweet, quoted it and tweeted

00:31:20.240 it. Um, and, uh, so now everyone's giving their thoughts on whether we are headed to a, to a civil

00:31:26.860 war. I've talked about this before, but let me, let me give my two cents on that. Um, I think there 0.93

00:31:33.540 are two concepts here. One is that, that sometimes get conflated. One is civil war and, uh, the other is

00:31:43.300 civil unrest. Now, I think that the latter option of civil unrest, we're, we're, we're, we're already

00:31:53.160 seeing that we're already seeing the beginnings of that. And we have been seeing that over the last

00:31:58.840 several years. We've seen riots in cities. We now we've got Antifa, you know, that is an example of

00:32:04.740 civil unrest. I think we could be heading to a situation where that becomes far more common.

00:32:10.420 And you see that across the country. I think very easily we could be out of there and it's got

00:32:14.480 nothing to do with impeachment. Robert Jeffress said that because of impeachment, there's going

00:32:17.980 to be a civil war. Um, I think that's silly. That's, that's, that's not going to be it. But I 0.71

00:32:24.780 think in general, as a culture, we are moving in that direction. We're not moving to a civil war for

00:32:29.760 a number of reasons. It's not going to be a war mainly because in the main reason is that nobody,

00:32:34.840 we, we, yeah, we like to tweet and insult each other on Twitter, but a civil war has

00:32:41.940 not fought through Twitter. That means you're actually getting out there and putting your

00:32:44.800 life on the line. Okay. Uh, which people aren't going to do. And I'm not saying that like I

00:32:50.720 want them to, like it's a challenge. That's not my point here. Uh, I'm saying that actually,

00:32:55.680 thankfully our laziness and our preference for a sedentary lifestyle where we live our life

00:33:02.280 through screens and on the couch that has had a lot of negative effects. But the one positive

00:33:08.000 is that it will save us from fighting a civil war because that's what it comes down to. Most people

00:33:11.980 just have, are going to have no interest. If you, if you know anything about the, you know, the,

00:33:18.400 the, the first civil war or the first American civil war, if we have to call it that, uh, you'll know

00:33:23.700 that that was fought during a time when men were willing to sacrifice everything and endure

00:33:35.300 unimaginable hardship and, uh, walk into a situation where death was very, very likely whether

00:33:47.440 they died on the battlefield or in most cases died of disease or whatever else, um, bad hygiene,

00:33:55.720 everything. That was something that men were willing to do back then. And, um, that's part of

00:34:01.860 the reason why we had a civil war or that's one of the things anyway, that made a civil war possible.

00:34:07.840 That's just not the case anymore. And I do think it's kind of funny when you've got a bunch of people

00:34:12.500 on Twitter say, Oh yeah, I'm ready to fight a civil. No, you're not. You're just tweeting. You're not

00:34:16.680 doing anything because at the end of the day, right? You know, you, you've got your, your shows

00:34:22.080 coming on at eight o'clock tonight that you want to get home and watch. And that's what we care about

00:34:26.960 most. Now, on the other hand, um, going out and, and, you know, going and, and rioting and throwing

00:34:35.440 some rocks through, through a window and then going home back to your mom's basement. That's something

00:34:39.980 that people are willing to do. It doesn't take a lot of energy. It doesn't take a lot of effort.

00:34:42.820 There's not a lot of risk involved, especially because the police don't really do much

00:34:46.560 to stop it and don't arrest very many people so that people are willing to do. And I think we're

00:34:50.560 going to see more of that, but not a civil war, thankfully. But the primary reason why we are

00:34:58.140 headed in this direction and why we're, we are fracturing as a country, it's not, it's not

00:35:03.860 impeachment or any specific thing that has anything to do with Trump. Really? It's that we just,

00:35:10.120 as a people have nothing in common anymore. That's the problem. And what people don't

00:35:18.640 understand is that Trump and everything associated with him, that is a symptom of the underlying

00:35:24.640 issue. So the more that we split apart as a country, culturally speaking, it's not because

00:35:31.320 of Trump. He is a symptom of that fracturing that has already, that has been happening now

00:35:36.780 for decades where we just don't have anything in common. There's nothing that ties us together

00:35:42.740 as a people, as a country. America is a country that was founded on an idea of an inalienable

00:35:51.900 human rights endowed by a creator, freedom, liberty, all those. That was the idea, the founding

00:35:57.040 idea, which at the founding of our country was not perfectly expressed. And there were whole swaths

00:36:04.560 of people that were excluded from it, which was bad, but that was supposed to anyway, be

00:36:11.580 the idea that brought us together. And these days, not everybody believes in that idea. There

00:36:19.340 isn't one value or belief or priority that we all share as a people. You get it, you get

00:36:30.220 a hundred random Americans into a room. You're not going to be able to get a majority agreement

00:36:34.940 on anything, no matter, no matter how fundamental the issue is. And so that's where it's coming

00:36:41.800 from is that we just don't, countries have to be built on some kind of commonality. And

00:36:49.760 if it's not going to be things like language, a lot of countries, their commonality is language

00:36:55.720 or other, you know, other more basic things like that. If it's not going to be that for

00:37:01.420 us, then it has to at least be ideas, values, beliefs, but we don't even have that. So we

00:37:06.620 don't have a common language. We don't have a common heritage. We don't have a common sort

00:37:14.340 of cultural experience. We don't have common values. We don't have common beliefs. We don't

00:37:20.900 have common priorities. What do we have in common? Generally speaking, I think, I think

00:37:27.760 nothing. We're living, you've got the different sides living in different universes almost.

00:37:38.700 I mean, it's got to the point now where we can't even agree on things like what is a man? What

00:37:46.560 is a woman? The biological facts of life. We can't even agree on that. A really basic 0.99

00:37:55.560 question, get a hundred Americans in a room, ask them a really basic question. Do men have 0.66

00:37:59.320 penises? How about that? Now, even if we could all agree that the answer is yes, I don't think 1.00

00:38:03.760 you could build a country on that agreement. But the fact that we can't even agree on that

00:38:09.940 just shows you how bad the fracture, the split is. So it's bad news. It's not going to be a

00:38:16.500 civil war for the reason that I said. And also another reason why there's not a civil war is

00:38:20.100 that you don't have quite the same defined geological boundaries that you did in the

00:38:29.980 civil war of 1861. Now, there are geological boundaries, obviously. People in California

00:38:36.040 tend to be liberal as opposed to people in other states. But we don't have that north-south

00:38:40.500 direct split that they did, which is another thing that's going to stop a civil war. But 0.64

00:38:45.100 I do think that what we see, some of the chaos in the streets and everything, I think we are

00:38:52.580 going to see more of that as time progresses, unfortunately. I just don't see any way around

00:38:58.760 it. It's easy. We could all sit around and say we need to have unity. We need to get along.

00:39:06.880 Um, that's fine to say. I agree. It would be great if we had it. But unify around what

00:39:13.480 is the question? Until you can answer that question, what are we unifying around?

00:39:22.520 Until you can answer that question, I think there's just no hope of there being any unity.

00:39:27.620 All right, let's go to emails. mattwalshow at gmail.com. mattwalshow at gmail.com. This

00:39:32.400 is from Scott says, if natural selection is real, why do custard filled donuts still exist?

00:39:38.960 That's we've been talking about evolution the last several days. That's maybe the best argument

00:39:42.420 against evolution anyone has ever put forward. So I give you that. I agree. And there is no reason

00:39:47.720 for custard filled donuts to exist or for jelly donuts to exist. Now you've touched Scott on an

00:39:53.100 issue that is very important to me. I've been talking about for a long time. Um, and I don't

00:39:58.220 understand why people struggle with this. If, if you're getting a box of donuts for a group of

00:40:02.280 people at the office or whatever, don't waste precious real estate on jelly and cream filled

00:40:09.740 donuts. Don't, don't do that. That because you know what? Because those are always the last ones

00:40:15.960 left. If you're getting into the break room and somebody brought a box of donuts 45 minutes ago,

00:40:22.180 well, you know, that when you open that box, there's going to be one stale donut left and

00:40:28.620 you know what it's going to be. It's going to be a jelly donut. It is every single time because

00:40:32.560 that's not the donut anybody wants. So if you're getting a box of donuts, why get donuts? You only

00:40:40.500 get 12, 12 precious spots. This is an important decision. And you're going to waste one of those

00:40:47.280 spots on a jelly donut, a donut with jelly in it. Let me tell you what a perfect box of donuts consists

00:40:54.460 of. Um, here it is. This is the correct box of donuts, uh, three glazed, three chocolate,

00:41:06.340 three chocolate frosted. And then now, so now that's nine donuts. Okay. You got three left

00:41:12.420 with those final three spots. You can get a little creative. You can throw something else

00:41:18.620 in. You can throw a curve ball, but it should be stuff that everybody likes. It should be the

00:41:24.560 kind of donut where someone says, Oh, well, you put one of those in there, right? It should be that

00:41:28.400 kind of reaction. It's kind of, they weren't expecting it. It's coming out of left field,

00:41:32.500 but really there's going to be a fight over that donut because everybody wants one of those. So,

00:41:36.460 so what I'm saying is with those final three spots, maybe you put a French cruller. Um, you put a

00:41:41.540 blueberry glazed, uh, you put a, you put a strawberry frosted. Okay. You know, those aren't

00:41:47.540 going to be left behind. Someone's going to grab those. And now you have a perfect box of donuts.

00:41:54.860 This, I feel very strongly about it. It's the same thing if you're getting pizza. Okay. Um,

00:42:01.360 let's say you're getting three large pizzas for a group of people. Again, you stick with the staples.

00:42:07.580 If you get a little bit creative, you do it in a way that everyone's going to agree on.

00:42:14.300 You put pineapple, if you get three large pizzas and you put pineapple on one of them,

00:42:18.720 there's going to be maybe one person in the whole group that wants it.

00:42:23.140 And so at the end, you're going to have all this pineapple leftover.

00:42:25.320 Why would you waste real estate on that? It's mind boggling.

00:42:32.440 Um, let's go to a email from Santiago says, hi, Matt. First of all, if you read this on the air,

00:42:37.920 could you please refer to me by the pseudonym Santiago? I have to say, if you're going to

00:42:42.080 choose a pseudonym, you can't do better than Santiago. So well done. I'm a biologist and I

00:42:46.180 studied evolution for years. I was pleasantly surprised by your solid knowledge on evolution.

00:42:50.160 Despite not being a trained biologist yourself, the way you answered the questions you got last

00:42:55.440 week reflects that you've actually done a good amount of studying on this topic. I particularly

00:42:59.280 loved your response to an email about the Cambrian explosion and about complex structures such as

00:43:03.520 the eye. The theological aspects of it were also interesting and you seem to know more about it

00:43:08.660 than I do. As a fellow Catholic, I'm disappointed by how many Christians think that the theory of

00:43:12.780 evolution is at odds with God or Christianity. This is what atheist preachers like Richard Dawkins would

00:43:17.300 like to think, but it is not true. I worry that this tendency for many fellow Christians to deny

00:43:22.120 valid scientific knowledge because of a wrong interpretation of Genesis is one of the many

00:43:26.660 reasons why Christianity is in decline. God gave us our senses and reasons to discover the world he 0.86

00:43:31.100 created. Our ability to question and understand creation is unique to us as humans among animals.

00:43:36.660 It makes no sense for God to give it to us, but expect us not to believe the logical conclusions that

00:43:42.300 we get from exploring the universe through science. To make this point, here's a quote I've

00:43:47.280 seen attributed to St. Augustine, which properly synthesizes my opinion. It is a bit long,

00:43:51.700 so feel free to exclude it if you read my email on the show. I'm not going to exclude it because

00:43:56.940 this is a great quote. How could I exclude St. Augustine? What do you think I am? Some kind of

00:44:00.780 heretic? So Augustine says, usually even a non-Christian knows something about the earth,

00:44:07.420 the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars,

00:44:11.620 and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon,

00:44:16.360 the cycles of the years and seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth,

00:44:21.980 and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience.

00:44:26.120 Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving 1.00

00:44:31.360 the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics, and we should take all means to

00:44:37.540 prevent such an embarrassing situation in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and

00:44:42.600 laugh at the scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people 0.75

00:44:48.180 outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of

00:44:53.960 those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our scriptures are criticized and rejected as unlearned

00:45:01.380 men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him

00:45:06.700 maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe these books in

00:45:12.440 matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, 0.95

00:45:17.280 when they think their pages are full of falsehoods and on facts which they themselves have learned

00:45:21.380 from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture 0.99

00:45:26.100 bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their 0.84

00:45:30.980 mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred

00:45:35.800 books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to 0.98

00:45:41.900 call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support 0.97

00:45:47.280 their position, although they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make

00:45:52.740 assertion. Great quote. I think I've shared that before in relation to other topics on this show

00:46:00.600 from St. Augustine. I could not agree more with it. And that's not to say, by the way, I've gotten plenty

00:46:10.600 of emails over the last several days from Christians who have issues with the theory of evolution and can

00:46:20.400 provide intelligent reasons to maintain some level of skepticism. I disagree, but I won't deny the

00:46:30.720 intelligence of it. So I'm not going to take the I personally, I don't know how Santiago meant it, but I

00:46:36.720 personally would not take that quote and apply it wholesale to every Christian who doubts evolution,

00:46:43.040 for example. But Christians who, this is where I think the quote applies. And this, I think, is a big

00:46:52.560 problem. And I agree with Santiago that this, I think, has something to do with the decline of

00:46:59.520 Christianity in America. When you have Christians who seem to reject modern science wholesale almost in 1.00

00:47:11.360 its entirety, rejecting almost the entirety of geology, paleontology, cosmology, physics,

00:47:20.720 beliefs, which unfortunately a large number of Christians in this country do, where they hold 1.00

00:47:31.360 beliefs that require them to not only reject the findings of all of these fields of study without any

00:47:41.360 scientific reason to do so, but to even suggest that science is basically some kind of conspiracy

00:47:48.360 among atheists to disprove God. These are the kinds of claims that some Christians will make. I know 0.98

00:47:55.320 that because I've been fielding these claims now for days, longer than that, actually. And that's a

00:48:04.080 real problem. I'm not saying it's a salvation issue, where if you're wrong about the science, you're

00:48:09.000 going to go to hell. I'm not saying that. I am saying, though, that non-believers, when they see 1.00

00:48:17.860 Christians rejecting science and creating this false competition between science and religion, 1.00

00:48:28.380 non-believers are going to say, oh, this is some kind of crazy cult. I don't want any part of that. 0.65

00:48:32.980 What, you're telling me if I want to be a Christian, I have to reject science?

00:48:37.380 No, I'm not going to do that. You're telling me if I want to be a Christian, I have to reject almost 0.81

00:48:41.260 everything I'm told by cosmology, physics, paleontology, archaeology, geology. You're telling

00:48:48.220 me, no, no, I can't do that. And so I agree with Santiago. I think that a lot of people are scared

00:48:54.000 away, and it does contribute to the decline, because they have this notion that science and

00:49:00.700 Christianity are at odds. And I think that's a mistaken notion, but they get that notion, 0.56

00:49:06.700 not just from what they're told by guys like Richard Dawkins, but they get it even from some

00:49:11.520 Christians who affirm that, confirm it, by essentially making the same argument Richard 0.96

00:49:18.020 Dawkins does, which is that you can't accept science and Christianity. You have to choose one. 1.00

00:49:24.360 That's the atheist argument. And it really troubles me when I see Christians that seem to 1.00

00:49:30.480 agree with it, essentially. All right, this is from Adam says, how do you prefer to have your steak

00:49:37.120 cooked? Well, the only acceptable answers are medium rare or rare, obviously. If someone puts a steak

00:49:42.900 with no pink in front of me, I will take my steak knife and jam it into their foot. And I have done 1.00

00:49:50.100 nine stints in prison because of that. Well worth it. Finally, from KP says, hi, Matt, please just call

00:49:56.760 me KP. If you read this on the air, everyone's doing the pseudonym thing today. With you looking

00:50:01.980 forward to your fourth kid, I had a question that I hope you won't judge me for asking. My wife gave

00:50:06.300 birth to our first child four weeks ago. It's been a challenge so far, but we are thrilled to have our

00:50:10.540 baby with us as we have been trying for a long time with no success. Congratulations. Here's my problem.

00:50:15.760 I find that as the dad, I don't feel myself bonding with him as much as I thought I would.

00:50:20.880 I love him, of course, but I thought it would be a much stronger and more immediate attachment.

00:50:25.200 Instead, it feels almost like it's my wife's kid and I'm the hired help. I'm worried that this means

00:50:32.020 I'm a hire a horrible person. Am I? Well, KP, let me put your mind at ease. No, you're not a horrible

00:50:37.900 person. Um, what? Well, not for this reason. Anyway, if you're someone who, for example, leaves your

00:50:44.520 cart in the shopping, you know, shopping cart in the middle of the parking lot or gets the wrong

00:50:49.780 donuts, then you'd be a horrible person for different reasons, but not for this. Um, what

00:50:55.080 you're feeling in relation to your kid, I think is perfectly natural. Um, I found with all three

00:50:59.460 of my born children so far that in the early going at the very young infant stage, uh, the

00:51:05.780 babies are literally attached to my wife most of the time. And the babies therefore don't have the 0.64

00:51:13.040 same kind of innate biological need for me as they do for her, which isn't to say that I'm not needed

00:51:19.160 or that I have nothing to do. It's just that you're right. As the dads were more in a support

00:51:24.200 role, especially early on. And that's inevitable. And especially if the baby is nursing, because so

00:51:29.320 much of the time is spent doing that. And you can't do that. Despite what we're told these days,

00:51:32.740 men in fact, cannot nurse. And so, um, that just puts you even more in the supporting role.

00:51:39.680 And, you know, it's, it's also a little weird because you got to think, uh, the mother has been

00:51:44.340 carrying the child for nine months. And so there's a bond that happens through that. They've, they have

00:51:51.140 been literally attached in that case for that entire time. But for you as the dad, the transition

00:51:57.620 is much more sudden where, yeah, your wife, you know, was, was, you knew your wife was pregnant,

00:52:05.120 but it was, you weren't carrying the child. So it was, you didn't have a kid. And now all of a sudden

00:52:09.860 you do. And it's just like that. So it's a sudden, it's a very sudden change. Um, but I guarantee

00:52:15.680 that you'll find yourself bonding with your child over time as he grows, uh, your, your role in his

00:52:21.860 life will also grow. Uh, I have no problem saying that I personally, I'm not a huge fan of the baby

00:52:27.120 stage. I love my kids obviously when they're babies, but I, uh, I'm weird, I guess, because I love

00:52:34.820 the two and three stage, what they call the terrible twos. I love that. I think, I think

00:52:39.700 kids at that stage are awesome and hilarious. And, uh, so I'm, I'm a big fan of that stage.

00:52:44.380 Everyone has their, their preferences, I suppose. As parents, I think we're always beating ourselves

00:52:51.720 up. We're always wondering, is this normal? Am I doing this right? Am I, am I feeling the right

00:52:56.540 way? Am I loving my child enough? Am I, am I ruining their life forever because I'm doing this

00:53:01.340 or that? These are always questions that we have. Um, but I think those questions just mean

00:53:08.180 that you care. They mean that you want your best, the best for your child. Your desire to be bonded

00:53:13.180 with your kid is, is all that matters at this point. And unfortunately, sadly, as we know,

00:53:20.180 a lot of kids are born into families where, uh, the father has no desire to be bonded to them.

00:53:26.260 The fact that you have that desire, even if you don't feel the actual bond itself quite to the

00:53:32.540 intensity that you want, um, is, but that's still a good news. The fact that you have it

00:53:37.500 because love isn't a feeling anyway. Of course, as we know, it's a choice, it's a sacrifice. Um,

00:53:44.080 it's an act of giving, which you are already doing. So don't, don't, or especially with the first kid,

00:53:52.040 it's, it's just, there's all kinds, especially with the first kid, especially in the first few

00:53:57.720 months there. It's just, there's no way to be prepared for it. Um, and all kinds of weird

00:54:02.880 things are happening in your mind. And there's a lot of anxiety and you just, you don't know what

00:54:06.900 to think or, or, or how to feel or, and you're, you're not sleeping anyway. And so it's just a,

00:54:11.660 it's a rough time. You get through it. You'll be fine. Really. It, um, it'll, it'll, it'll be fine

00:54:16.700 in the end. I promise you that. And that's my parenting sermon for the day coming from someone who

00:54:21.640 is absolutely not fit to be giving them, but I just did. And speaking of that, I'm going to wrap this up

00:54:26.880 now because I actually have to take my wife to the hospital. She's scheduled to deliver our child, 1.00

00:54:33.080 um, tonight. So I, I would ask for your prayers for that. And, uh, by the time I talk to you again,

00:54:41.760 I'm take a few days off. By the time I talk to you again, we will have four kids in this house.

00:54:46.760 Dear God, dear God. All right. Um, but, uh, in all seriousness, thank you for, for all your prayers

00:54:53.120 and well wishes. And, uh, I'll see you on the other side. Godspeed.

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