The Matt Walsh Show - October 14, 2019


Ep. 348 - The Great Columbus


Episode Stats

Length

44 minutes

Words per Minute

167.04143

Word Count

7,503

Sentence Count

476

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.140 Happy Columbus Day, everybody, and congratulations to anybody out there who actually gets to take off on Columbus Day.
00:00:06.160 I think that's a group that's now limited to public school teachers and post office employees.
00:00:11.400 I don't know if anyone else gets off anymore for Columbus Day, but it is a day to remember a great man.
00:00:18.180 And yes, I say a great man. Christopher Columbus was a great man.
00:00:21.580 Why was he great? Well, because he sailed across uncharted waters to an unknown destination,
00:00:26.460 and then he did it three more times. And in the process, he vastly expanded our knowledge and understanding of the world.
00:00:32.780 He planted the seeds of Western civilization. He changed the globe. He changed the course of history.
00:00:37.320 He had an impact on civilization that has lasted for 500 years and will last for 500 more than 1,000 years after that.
00:00:43.120 I would say that's something, isn't it? That's kind of impressive, maybe worthy of a statue, maybe worthy of your own day.
00:00:52.120 Now, if you want to have your own day in the future, you want to have your own statue, then do the same thing.
00:00:57.800 Change the course of history. Go ahead and try, if it's so easy to do.
00:01:03.580 One thing I'll say about Columbus Day, he certainly had an impact on history that far exceeds the impact
00:01:08.900 that his ungrateful modern critics, who enjoy the bounty of Western civilization,
00:01:16.420 while whining about the men who provided that bounty to them, will have.
00:01:24.960 Because those people who sit on Twitter and complain and say,
00:01:29.940 Christopher Columbus, he was a genocidal maniac, those people are going to die and be forgotten.
00:01:36.860 Nobody's going to remember them.
00:01:39.140 Because they're not doing anything with their lives.
00:01:43.000 Christopher Columbus is remembered 500 years later.
00:01:47.120 All I'm going to say is this, is that if, and hopefully maybe we can at least agree on this score.
00:01:55.120 If you can't even drive to the neighboring state, I forget about that.
00:02:00.820 If you can't even drive to your neighboring town, if you can't even drive to your local grocery store,
00:02:06.760 without the help of a satellite orbiting the earth, giving you step-by-step instructions,
00:02:13.140 saying, turn left here, turn right there, go 1.2 miles, turn right.
00:02:18.320 Okay, if you can't even do that,
00:02:20.980 if you can't even get to your CVS five blocks away,
00:02:24.840 without having to call upon the satellite,
00:02:27.180 satellite, help me!
00:02:28.120 Then maybe you can at least admit that it's kind of impressive that Columbus and his crew managed to make a voyage across thousands of miles of open ocean,
00:02:40.000 and then make it to a certain area on the map that wasn't even on the map yet,
00:02:44.920 because the map hadn't been drawn yet,
00:02:46.780 and then make it back there three more times.
00:02:52.420 Using routes, by the way, that are still used today.
00:02:58.220 500 years later.
00:02:59.260 Oh, but he thought he was going to Asia.
00:03:03.400 Stupid Columbus.
00:03:05.960 Thought he was going to Asia.
00:03:07.060 I didn't know where he was going.
00:03:09.640 Yes, it's true that Columbus committed the sin of not already having a completed map in front of him.
00:03:15.880 Do you know why you have a completed map?
00:03:17.980 Well, in fact, if you had a completed map, you couldn't use it,
00:03:20.820 because these days, even with a map,
00:03:23.500 even if someone gives us a map,
00:03:24.900 we are so ineffectual
00:03:26.760 that even if someone gives us a map
00:03:28.800 and shows us where to go, we couldn't do it.
00:03:30.600 We can't even read a map.
00:03:31.960 If you live in Cincinnati, Ohio,
00:03:34.420 and I gave you a map to show you how to get to Lexington, Kentucky,
00:03:37.480 if you're like a modern American,
00:03:38.960 you couldn't even do it.
00:03:39.980 You wouldn't have any idea.
00:03:41.440 What's this line mean?
00:03:42.520 What is that?
00:03:43.900 No, you need the satellite to say,
00:03:45.860 listen, dummy, make a right here, left there,
00:03:48.020 okay, go one.
00:03:48.740 That's what you need.
00:03:51.320 But Columbus, he didn't have the satellite.
00:03:52.680 He didn't have a map either,
00:03:53.700 and the reason he didn't have a map
00:03:55.000 is because no one had made a map of the world yet,
00:04:01.840 and the reason no one had made a map of the world
00:04:03.880 is that no one had seen the entire world, okay?
00:04:07.200 There were large swaths of the planet
00:04:09.260 that nobody had seen,
00:04:11.180 and so how could he know?
00:04:15.860 Oh, but the Vikings found North America.
00:04:18.300 Yeah, the Vikings did find North America,
00:04:20.100 but they didn't establish lasting settlements.
00:04:22.220 They didn't build upon that discovery,
00:04:26.680 and so that's how nobody knew.
00:04:30.440 The Vikings didn't understand what they had discovered.
00:04:35.340 But yeah, Leif Erikson, I mean, give the Vikings credit too.
00:04:38.140 I give all these guys credit.
00:04:40.600 It's very impressive to get into a ship
00:04:43.840 having no idea really where you're going
00:04:46.460 and to just sail that way.
00:04:47.980 That's how the map was originally drawn,
00:04:50.400 is that someone had to get in a ship
00:04:52.900 and just go that away.
00:04:57.480 And just like hundreds of years later,
00:04:59.960 when it was time to make a comprehensive map
00:05:04.340 of the continental United States,
00:05:06.920 someone had to just go that away,
00:05:10.600 cross the entire expanse of the continental U.S.
00:05:14.780 I mean, this took, there had to be courageous,
00:05:19.060 pioneering men to do this,
00:05:21.540 and I am grateful that they did.
00:05:24.960 Yeah, these guys, they weren't perfect.
00:05:28.820 In some ways, they had to not be perfect
00:05:32.560 because do you have any idea
00:05:35.260 what kind of person you have to be
00:05:38.500 to get on a ship leading a fleet of ships
00:05:43.080 with a bunch of men
00:05:44.760 and go across unknown waters?
00:05:49.140 You have no idea how long you're going to be gone
00:05:51.180 or how far you're going to have to go.
00:05:53.840 You have no idea if you're going to survive.
00:05:55.380 There's a very good chance you won't.
00:05:56.720 There's a very good chance you'll die.
00:06:00.560 But to maintain order
00:06:02.120 and discipline
00:06:04.260 and to prevent, you know, mutiny
00:06:06.480 and to prevent them from throwing you overboard
00:06:08.780 when they get sick and tired of being on the ship
00:06:10.860 and to make sure that everyone doesn't starve to death
00:06:13.640 or die of scurvy,
00:06:14.960 do you know what's required?
00:06:18.000 It takes men who are, yes,
00:06:19.880 a little bit brutal.
00:06:24.040 A little bit dictatorial, even.
00:06:27.420 That's what was required.
00:06:31.460 Without that,
00:06:32.380 without those kinds of men doing those things,
00:06:35.400 Western civilization,
00:06:36.640 as we know it,
00:06:37.620 does not exist.
00:06:38.820 And I, for one,
00:06:39.800 am quite glad that it does exist
00:06:41.500 because I like living here.
00:06:43.880 It's not perfect.
00:06:45.040 There are problems.
00:06:45.900 I'll be the first to point out those problems
00:06:47.600 and criticize those problems.
00:06:50.000 But I prefer living in Western civilization
00:06:53.020 than anywhere else.
00:06:56.260 And here's what I'll say to you.
00:06:57.520 If you feel terrible about living here,
00:06:59.920 if you feel guilt-ridden,
00:07:03.980 we have no right to be here,
00:07:05.300 we stole this land,
00:07:06.260 we're on stolen land,
00:07:07.200 so on and so forth.
00:07:08.160 Well, if you really feel that way,
00:07:10.140 then you are welcome to leave.
00:07:11.880 And I don't mean that as,
00:07:13.260 you know, this is not,
00:07:14.040 if you don't like it, get out.
00:07:15.200 That's not exactly what this is.
00:07:16.500 Well, that's a little bit what this is,
00:07:17.860 but it's true
00:07:18.760 that it's not even if you don't like it.
00:07:20.740 It's more if you feel
00:07:22.500 like there's a real moral problem
00:07:26.860 with us even being here,
00:07:28.460 then I think you are
00:07:29.500 morally obligated to leave.
00:07:33.520 If you really feel like
00:07:34.800 this is stolen property,
00:07:36.340 then why are you staying here?
00:07:39.440 Go somewhere else.
00:07:41.940 I hear the Middle East
00:07:42.980 is very nice this time of year.
00:07:45.620 Of course, the problem is
00:07:46.760 if you go anywhere else on the globe,
00:07:49.300 especially in the Middle East,
00:07:50.200 but really anywhere,
00:07:52.180 you are inevitably going to end up
00:07:54.120 on quote-unquote stolen land.
00:07:56.860 Because no matter where you go,
00:07:58.100 unless you're going to Antarctica
00:07:59.440 or something, okay,
00:08:01.340 unless you're going to some place
00:08:02.340 where nobody lives,
00:08:04.760 if you're going to a place
00:08:06.960 where there are people,
00:08:08.060 you are more than likely
00:08:09.760 going to end up,
00:08:10.420 no matter where it is,
00:08:11.380 no matter what continent,
00:08:12.460 it doesn't matter,
00:08:13.440 you're going to end up in a place
00:08:14.520 that has been quote-unquote stolen.
00:08:18.040 Historically.
00:08:18.440 Probably multiple times.
00:08:21.300 The people living on that plot of land,
00:08:23.600 their ancestors,
00:08:25.140 probably stole it
00:08:26.160 from the people
00:08:26.640 who were living before.
00:08:27.800 And those people
00:08:28.780 were probably stole it
00:08:29.680 from the people before that.
00:08:31.480 Because for thousands of years
00:08:32.940 of human civilization,
00:08:34.240 that's the way the world worked.
00:08:36.860 It was a time of conquest.
00:08:39.500 Where if you wanted to live
00:08:40.800 on a certain plot of land,
00:08:41.760 you fought for it.
00:08:44.360 And that's the way it worked everywhere.
00:08:46.120 It's not pretty.
00:08:48.460 It's not nice.
00:08:51.200 But that's the way it worked.
00:08:52.720 And it's very easy for us
00:08:54.400 in the year 2019
00:08:55.180 to sit here
00:08:55.940 and say,
00:08:56.680 well, that feels wrong.
00:08:58.060 I don't like that.
00:08:58.800 That makes my tummy hurt
00:09:00.120 to think that people did that.
00:09:01.500 I don't like it.
00:09:04.640 Okay, well, you know what?
00:09:05.400 That's what your ancestors did.
00:09:06.720 That's what everybody's ancestors did.
00:09:08.920 I mean, coming to the new world,
00:09:16.420 what do you think
00:09:17.640 the Indian civilizations were doing?
00:09:19.200 You think they were just
00:09:20.160 living peacefully with each other,
00:09:21.940 just playing patty cake?
00:09:23.120 What do you think they were doing?
00:09:25.780 How do you think the Aztecs,
00:09:28.100 when Cortez came across
00:09:30.080 the Aztec civilization,
00:09:31.320 what is now Mexico,
00:09:32.400 how do you think they
00:09:33.680 got all that land
00:09:35.620 they were living on?
00:09:37.100 How do you think they got it?
00:09:38.260 You think they just came in
00:09:39.520 and asked the inhabiting tribes nicely,
00:09:43.660 hey, would you guys mind
00:09:44.400 if we set up a civilization here?
00:09:45.560 Would you mind?
00:09:46.460 Oh, you would?
00:09:46.980 Well, never mind.
00:09:47.740 See you later.
00:09:49.160 No, you know what they did?
00:09:50.600 They came in,
00:09:52.500 they killed almost everybody,
00:09:54.720 and of the survivors,
00:09:56.260 they would take
00:09:56.840 some of the children
00:09:57.920 and some of the women,
00:09:59.820 some of the women
00:10:00.660 they would take as sex slaves,
00:10:01.960 and some of the children
00:10:02.800 they would take,
00:10:03.960 and they would cut out their hearts
00:10:05.960 as human sacrifices.
00:10:08.260 and then cut off their limbs
00:10:10.060 and eat them.
00:10:11.420 That's what the Aztecs did.
00:10:13.860 That's how they gained land.
00:10:16.940 It was a brutal time.
00:10:18.700 Very brutal.
00:10:21.100 And nobody's
00:10:23.400 ancestral hands are clean.
00:10:26.300 Nobody.
00:10:26.700 But again,
00:10:30.020 if you feel bad about it,
00:10:31.180 if you're real torn up,
00:10:32.980 I would respect that.
00:10:35.680 You know,
00:10:35.840 I would respect someone
00:10:36.720 who says,
00:10:37.240 you know what,
00:10:37.620 I just,
00:10:38.020 I really feel this is stolen land,
00:10:39.360 and I'm going to give my land back.
00:10:41.260 You could call up,
00:10:42.180 you know,
00:10:42.980 an Indian reservation.
00:10:45.520 You could say,
00:10:46.080 hey, you know,
00:10:46.580 I've got property,
00:10:47.420 I want to donate it to you,
00:10:48.880 and I'm going to go live,
00:10:50.260 and I don't know where.
00:10:50.980 I don't know where you're going to go.
00:10:51.960 Like I said,
00:10:52.480 there's nowhere you can really go
00:10:53.540 that isn't stolen,
00:10:54.260 but you could find someplace.
00:10:55.540 Maybe you will go down to Antarctica.
00:10:57.960 They have research facilities
00:10:59.340 down there.
00:10:59.820 You could see if you could set up
00:11:00.780 shop in one of those.
00:11:02.480 Build an igloo or something,
00:11:03.960 maybe.
00:11:07.540 So that was my yearly annual
00:11:09.380 Columbus rant.
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00:12:39.880 What's the controversy
00:12:40.640 of the day?
00:12:41.160 Well,
00:12:41.440 Columbus is one controversy
00:12:43.720 because 500 years later,
00:12:45.120 of course,
00:12:45.360 people still haven't
00:12:45.940 quite gotten over
00:12:46.840 things.
00:12:48.120 But the other
00:12:51.160 controversy is
00:12:52.300 over this meme.
00:12:54.360 And I can hardly
00:12:55.100 say that without laughing
00:12:56.380 because,
00:12:57.280 of course,
00:12:57.560 a controversy
00:12:58.180 over a meme
00:12:59.100 is just really,
00:13:00.180 that's very worthwhile,
00:13:02.840 isn't it,
00:13:03.180 for us to have
00:13:03.600 a controversy
00:13:04.040 over a meme?
00:13:05.140 There was an event
00:13:06.020 for Trump supporters
00:13:06.900 a few days ago
00:13:07.660 hosted by a group
00:13:08.380 called American Priority.
00:13:10.100 And it was held
00:13:10.960 at a Trump resort
00:13:11.860 in Miami.
00:13:14.480 Apparently,
00:13:14.860 during this event,
00:13:16.040 from what I've heard,
00:13:16.800 in one of the side rooms
00:13:17.860 at the resort,
00:13:18.880 there was a session
00:13:19.720 about memes.
00:13:21.740 And I don't really know
00:13:22.840 why,
00:13:23.320 but there was.
00:13:24.400 And a bunch of memes
00:13:25.720 were being played.
00:13:26.420 And one of the memes
00:13:27.480 has people very upset today
00:13:29.420 because it shows
00:13:30.060 President Trump
00:13:30.900 murdering a bunch
00:13:32.200 of news media logos
00:13:33.300 and a few people,
00:13:34.460 too.
00:13:34.840 Not real people,
00:13:35.640 but the faces of people
00:13:36.900 transplanted on other people.
00:13:39.640 And I'm not sure
00:13:40.460 how much of this
00:13:41.040 they'll let me play,
00:13:41.720 but I wanted to give you
00:13:42.400 a quick sampling
00:13:43.300 of this controversial meme
00:13:46.560 that has people
00:13:47.000 very upset today.
00:13:48.620 So here's a little bit
00:13:50.120 of that.
00:13:50.500 Watch.
00:13:51.440 How dare you separate them
00:13:53.100 from their parents?
00:13:54.840 We're going to rip your son
00:13:56.080 from his mother's arms
00:13:57.220 and throw him in a cage
00:13:58.680 full of pedophiles
00:13:59.820 and let them have...
00:14:01.300 So the video,
00:14:26.820 as I said,
00:14:28.300 it shows Trump
00:14:28.940 in what looks like a church
00:14:30.060 shooting a bunch of media logos
00:14:31.560 and media people.
00:14:33.540 From the reports I've read,
00:14:36.060 this was played in,
00:14:37.800 as I said,
00:14:38.340 a side room.
00:14:39.940 Most of the attendees
00:14:40.760 didn't see it,
00:14:41.920 weren't aware of it.
00:14:43.500 They learned about it
00:14:44.300 in the media reports.
00:14:45.780 Trump himself,
00:14:46.620 obviously,
00:14:47.000 had nothing to do with this.
00:14:48.020 He didn't put it together.
00:14:51.200 His campaign
00:14:51.680 had nothing to do with it.
00:14:53.160 Someone played it
00:14:54.460 in a mostly empty room.
00:14:55.760 A few people saw it.
00:14:57.100 And now everyone
00:14:58.380 has seen it
00:14:59.080 because the media,
00:15:00.780 ironically,
00:15:01.340 has amplified this message,
00:15:02.720 a message that they think
00:15:03.620 is so dangerous and horrible,
00:15:05.140 yet they're the ones
00:15:05.980 putting it out there
00:15:06.580 for everybody to see.
00:15:08.420 Now,
00:15:09.080 it is in poor taste,
00:15:10.740 certainly.
00:15:12.300 It's in poor taste.
00:15:14.140 It's stupid.
00:15:15.680 It's stupid on a number
00:15:16.900 of levels,
00:15:17.440 levels,
00:15:18.020 and it's even dumber
00:15:19.180 for a supporter
00:15:20.460 to play something like that
00:15:21.900 at an ostensible Trump event
00:15:24.020 because who do you think
00:15:25.760 you're helping?
00:15:27.360 Like,
00:15:27.660 what good do you think
00:15:28.660 is going to come of that?
00:15:30.520 So whoever it is
00:15:31.480 that put that together
00:15:32.320 and then decided
00:15:33.220 to play it at a Trump event,
00:15:34.280 you're definitely
00:15:36.260 not helping the guy
00:15:37.400 that you're ostensibly
00:15:38.120 trying to support.
00:15:39.500 There is no universe
00:15:40.740 where that's helpful.
00:15:42.820 Best case scenario
00:15:43.800 is that it makes
00:15:44.340 a few Trump supporters laugh,
00:15:46.260 but that's it.
00:15:48.400 You're not going to win
00:15:49.080 any votes
00:15:50.500 or win any favor that way,
00:15:52.340 so it's a very stupid thing.
00:15:53.920 But I can't help but think,
00:15:55.640 you know,
00:15:56.580 this meme uses
00:15:57.800 what is obviously
00:15:59.000 a scene from a movie,
00:16:00.920 and it turns out
00:16:01.680 that the movie
00:16:02.120 is called Kingsman,
00:16:04.020 a movie,
00:16:04.940 a well-known
00:16:05.560 blockbuster movie,
00:16:07.380 and now it's a franchise.
00:16:09.160 How many Kingsman movies?
00:16:10.560 There have been
00:16:11.120 two or three
00:16:11.560 Kingsman movies now.
00:16:12.420 I haven't seen them,
00:16:15.440 but apparently
00:16:16.160 there's a scene
00:16:16.840 in that film
00:16:17.500 where a guy,
00:16:18.920 Colin Firth,
00:16:19.660 slaughters a bunch
00:16:20.320 of people at a church.
00:16:22.240 And apparently
00:16:22.680 in the original movie,
00:16:23.940 these are Westboro
00:16:26.240 Baptist church
00:16:27.220 type people.
00:16:29.160 So basically,
00:16:30.060 it's a parody
00:16:30.620 of what Hollywood
00:16:31.660 thinks,
00:16:33.360 you know,
00:16:34.400 all churches are like.
00:16:35.680 This is a parody
00:16:36.740 of,
00:16:38.520 according to Hollywood,
00:16:39.840 every church,
00:16:40.660 especially in the South.
00:16:42.420 And the protagonist,
00:16:43.540 Colin Firth,
00:16:44.500 murders almost
00:16:46.680 everybody in the building
00:16:47.500 in the original scene.
00:16:51.220 And I do have to wonder
00:16:53.760 if this meme
00:16:54.800 is so offensive
00:16:55.640 and so potentially dangerous
00:16:57.760 and in such poor taste,
00:17:01.160 why isn't the original scene
00:17:03.480 also offensive
00:17:04.940 and dangerous
00:17:05.860 and in poor taste?
00:17:06.780 So if a guy
00:17:09.420 is slaughtering
00:17:10.200 a bunch of media members,
00:17:11.320 it's a problem,
00:17:11.880 but if he slaughters
00:17:12.820 a bunch of rubes
00:17:13.640 at a church,
00:17:14.260 it's okay.
00:17:15.740 That message is fine.
00:17:18.940 This scene
00:17:19.620 has been out there
00:17:20.320 for almost five years now.
00:17:23.340 Nobody ever complained
00:17:24.120 about it.
00:17:26.160 In fact,
00:17:26.860 it's more than that.
00:17:28.520 It's not just that
00:17:29.060 nobody complained
00:17:29.800 about this scene
00:17:30.480 when it first came out.
00:17:31.580 It's that they actively
00:17:32.500 celebrated it.
00:17:33.540 Let me read
00:17:36.600 a relevant passage
00:17:37.500 from a 2015
00:17:38.620 Washington Post review
00:17:39.940 of Kingsman.
00:17:40.680 This is what
00:17:41.060 the Washington Post
00:17:42.200 in 2015
00:17:42.680 had to say
00:17:43.720 about that scene
00:17:44.680 when it was just
00:17:46.220 Christians getting murdered
00:17:47.200 and not media members.
00:17:49.580 They said,
00:17:51.360 of course,
00:17:51.800 this being a modern movie,
00:17:53.040 there's loads of violence,
00:17:54.200 though most of it
00:17:54.740 is bloodless
00:17:55.260 and surprisingly balletic.
00:17:56.940 Balletic, ballet, you know.
00:17:59.000 Like a ballet
00:17:59.920 is what they say.
00:18:00.440 It's like a ballet.
00:18:02.100 One massacre
00:18:03.000 set in a conservative
00:18:04.000 Christian church
00:18:04.700 in the American Deep South
00:18:05.580 is a master class
00:18:07.080 in cartoonish
00:18:08.400 fight choreography.
00:18:10.080 A master class.
00:18:12.440 Now, I was trying
00:18:13.260 to find out more
00:18:14.200 about the context
00:18:15.320 of this original scene
00:18:16.240 and I found an article
00:18:17.180 on theringer.com
00:18:19.000 from a few years ago
00:18:20.680 which says that
00:18:21.580 this scene of
00:18:22.220 Colin Firth
00:18:22.720 slaughtering churchgoers
00:18:23.780 is the most, quote,
00:18:25.340 well-regarded scene
00:18:26.480 in the movie.
00:18:28.460 And then the article
00:18:30.220 goes on to use
00:18:30.960 a lot of very glowing
00:18:31.900 language to talk about it.
00:18:33.080 The article says,
00:18:33.900 quote,
00:18:34.660 it's an unquestionably
00:18:35.720 brilliant kinetic scene.
00:18:37.220 One that, without doubt,
00:18:38.940 is a master class
00:18:40.260 in fight timing
00:18:41.180 and filming.
00:18:41.800 Master class.
00:18:42.360 This was the favorite phrase
00:18:43.580 apparently used
00:18:44.300 to describe this scene.
00:18:46.760 So again,
00:18:47.540 when it's
00:18:48.000 a British guy
00:18:50.820 shooting a bunch
00:18:53.720 of parodies
00:18:55.400 of Christians,
00:18:57.180 it's a master class.
00:18:59.280 It's ballet.
00:18:59.920 It's kinetic.
00:19:01.280 It's enthralling.
00:19:03.080 It's beautiful to watch.
00:19:06.160 But when it's a meme
00:19:07.360 of Trump
00:19:07.920 shooting a bunch
00:19:08.500 of media people,
00:19:09.280 now it's horrible
00:19:10.200 to disgrace.
00:19:11.100 It's violent.
00:19:11.880 It's dangerous.
00:19:15.580 All of these things.
00:19:17.580 Now, the fact
00:19:18.320 that these characters
00:19:19.000 who are being killed
00:19:19.800 in the original scene,
00:19:20.860 and not even characters,
00:19:21.780 they're just meat puppets
00:19:22.760 whose only function
00:19:23.760 is just to get shot
00:19:24.520 in the head.
00:19:24.880 But the fact
00:19:26.760 that they're supposed
00:19:27.240 to be Westboro Baptist
00:19:28.380 types just makes it
00:19:29.780 worse in some ways.
00:19:30.900 Because one,
00:19:31.620 that's how Hollywood
00:19:32.320 again sees all Christians,
00:19:34.140 especially in the South.
00:19:35.380 But two,
00:19:36.660 making them Westboro Baptist
00:19:38.820 people is just
00:19:39.740 a cheap narrative trick
00:19:41.120 which allows the viewer
00:19:43.140 to find sick joy
00:19:44.500 in watching Christians
00:19:45.940 get killed.
00:19:47.500 You just make that
00:19:48.560 one little,
00:19:49.300 you know,
00:19:49.560 make them racist,
00:19:50.760 and all of a sudden
00:19:51.540 we can all watch it
00:19:52.460 and enjoy it.
00:19:53.620 When in reality,
00:19:54.560 of course,
00:19:55.420 yes,
00:19:55.740 the Westboro Baptist
00:19:56.400 people are scumbags.
00:19:57.360 I think we can all
00:19:57.900 agree, though,
00:19:58.560 that it wouldn't be okay
00:19:59.400 to go and shoot
00:20:00.100 50 of them in the head.
00:20:02.060 Right?
00:20:04.020 But this allows people,
00:20:05.660 especially media elites,
00:20:07.840 they can watch a scene
00:20:08.780 like that and play out
00:20:09.920 their sick fantasies
00:20:11.240 of killing Christians,
00:20:13.020 and they can feel okay
00:20:14.880 about it because the
00:20:15.720 Christians in this movie
00:20:16.560 are racist.
00:20:18.740 Never mind that,
00:20:20.120 again,
00:20:20.580 that the media thinks
00:20:21.640 that all Christians
00:20:22.220 are racist,
00:20:22.700 so as far as
00:20:23.200 they're concerned,
00:20:23.940 those could be anybody,
00:20:25.280 any Christian.
00:20:28.080 And, I mean,
00:20:29.000 I don't know how else
00:20:30.280 to interpret it
00:20:31.080 because if you're someone
00:20:33.960 who saw the original scene
00:20:36.900 and you loved it,
00:20:38.600 and then you see this meme
00:20:40.960 and you say,
00:20:42.340 this is terrible
00:20:42.940 because it allows people
00:20:44.720 to fantasize about
00:20:45.520 killing media members,
00:20:47.860 well, then I can only,
00:20:48.920 okay, well,
00:20:49.660 so that's how you see it.
00:20:50.640 So, then why did you
00:20:52.180 love it before?
00:20:54.560 I can only assume
00:20:55.500 it's because you,
00:20:57.120 it allowed you
00:20:57.840 to fantasize
00:20:58.480 about killing Christians.
00:21:03.420 But if you're going to say
00:21:04.660 that, oh, no,
00:21:05.380 the original scene
00:21:06.020 is just a cartoon,
00:21:06.960 it's a joke,
00:21:07.660 it's not, you know,
00:21:08.300 it's, it's, it's,
00:21:09.040 it's not,
00:21:09.420 there's nothing to it,
00:21:10.320 it's, don't worry about it.
00:21:12.300 If you're going to say that
00:21:13.140 about the original scene,
00:21:14.040 then how do you not
00:21:15.500 say that about the meme?
00:21:17.400 Couldn't the same excuse
00:21:18.700 be made for the meme?
00:21:19.680 Couldn't anyone say,
00:21:20.400 well, it's just a joke,
00:21:21.260 it's not anything serious,
00:21:22.140 no one's taking it seriously.
00:21:25.660 Seems to me,
00:21:26.400 you need to have
00:21:26.840 a consistent narrative,
00:21:28.900 a consistent,
00:21:29.400 a consistent approach.
00:21:35.560 All right,
00:21:36.860 so let's see what else here.
00:21:37.840 This was fun.
00:21:38.800 Look at this headline
00:21:39.440 from Forbes.
00:21:40.560 The headline says,
00:21:42.060 why Pakistan should be
00:21:43.380 on every solo female
00:21:44.860 traveler's bucket list.
00:21:47.040 Why Pakistan should be
00:21:49.020 on every solo female
00:21:50.080 traveler's bucket list.
00:21:51.280 I'm just waiting
00:21:52.080 for the follow-up of this,
00:21:53.380 like,
00:21:54.000 why a back alley
00:21:55.740 in West Baltimore
00:21:56.480 is a great place
00:21:57.300 for any solo female
00:21:58.360 to go camping.
00:22:00.240 Or maybe,
00:22:01.100 why the shark tank
00:22:03.320 at the aquarium
00:22:04.000 is a great place
00:22:04.900 to bathe your toddler.
00:22:07.420 Or maybe,
00:22:08.400 why the microwave
00:22:09.900 is a great place
00:22:10.880 to stick your head.
00:22:12.700 Just wonderful advice
00:22:13.820 from the media,
00:22:14.440 as always.
00:22:15.240 And the media
00:22:16.080 is so desperate
00:22:16.900 to be woke
00:22:17.580 that they're going
00:22:18.600 to encourage
00:22:18.960 a bunch of women
00:22:19.500 to go out
00:22:19.860 and get kidnapped
00:22:20.440 or imprisoned
00:22:21.520 or murdered
00:22:22.060 just to prove
00:22:23.180 how woke they are.
00:22:23.900 So that's wonderful.
00:22:26.320 Now,
00:22:26.640 this was kind of interesting.
00:22:27.560 I wanted to play this
00:22:27.980 for you really quick.
00:22:29.320 Here's Bernie Sanders
00:22:30.460 in an interview
00:22:31.520 trying to differentiate
00:22:32.700 himself from Elizabeth Warren.
00:22:35.080 Elizabeth Warren
00:22:35.680 has been a friend of mine
00:22:36.480 for some 25 years.
00:22:37.640 And I think she is
00:22:40.000 a very, very good senator.
00:22:42.100 But there are differences
00:22:43.000 between Elizabeth and myself.
00:22:44.500 Elizabeth, I think,
00:22:45.260 as you know,
00:22:45.680 has said that she is
00:22:46.380 a capitalist through her bones.
00:22:48.480 I'm not.
00:22:49.500 I think the situation today
00:22:50.780 that we face in this country
00:22:51.920 of the greed
00:22:53.040 and the corruption
00:22:53.860 that is existing
00:22:55.780 in Washington,
00:22:56.860 that is existing
00:22:57.680 at the corporate elite level,
00:23:00.820 where you have
00:23:01.460 massive amounts
00:23:02.220 of price-fixing
00:23:03.200 going on
00:23:03.760 in the drug companies,
00:23:04.580 where we're the only
00:23:05.180 major country on Earth
00:23:06.100 not to guarantee
00:23:07.040 health care
00:23:07.620 to all people.
00:23:08.780 Where we have right now
00:23:09.920 as we speak
00:23:10.660 in the fossil fuel industry,
00:23:12.920 you've got companies
00:23:13.460 making billions of dollars
00:23:14.620 a year in profit.
00:23:15.860 Doing what?
00:23:16.640 Oh, by the way,
00:23:17.400 they're destroying the planet.
00:23:18.940 All right.
00:23:19.560 And I think business
00:23:20.640 as usual
00:23:21.560 and doing it
00:23:22.820 the old-fashioned way
00:23:23.840 is not good enough.
00:23:25.080 It's not regulation.
00:23:26.020 Now, what we need
00:23:26.560 is, in fact,
00:23:27.300 I don't want to get people
00:23:28.080 too nervous.
00:23:28.820 We need a political revolution.
00:23:30.420 I am, I believe,
00:23:31.300 the only candidate
00:23:32.120 who's going to say
00:23:33.080 to the ruling class
00:23:34.020 of this country,
00:23:34.760 the corporate elite,
00:23:35.700 enough enough
00:23:36.320 with your greed
00:23:37.200 and with your corruption.
00:23:38.940 We need real change
00:23:39.680 in this country.
00:23:40.240 So you don't think
00:23:40.680 that's what Elizabeth Warren said?
00:23:41.660 Well, look,
00:23:42.580 Elizabeth is a friend of mine.
00:23:43.800 She will speak for herself.
00:23:44.900 I've just told you what I do.
00:23:45.800 But you've said
00:23:46.240 there are differences
00:23:46.900 and you just mentioned the label.
00:23:48.900 Well, I guess,
00:23:49.620 well, it's not a label.
00:23:50.740 I mean, Elizabeth considers herself,
00:23:52.860 if I got the quote correctly,
00:23:54.140 to be a capitalist
00:23:54.820 to her bones.
00:23:55.560 I don't.
00:23:56.380 And the reason I am not
00:23:58.000 is because I will not tolerate
00:23:59.360 for one second
00:24:00.020 the kind of greed
00:24:01.260 and corruption
00:24:01.960 and income
00:24:03.420 and wealth inequality
00:24:04.460 and so much suffering
00:24:06.080 that is going on
00:24:07.000 in this country today,
00:24:07.740 which is unnecessary.
00:24:09.480 I love how on the left
00:24:10.960 these days
00:24:11.480 you can accuse
00:24:13.240 your opponent
00:24:14.120 of supporting freedom
00:24:15.200 too much.
00:24:16.980 That's basically
00:24:17.720 the accusation, right?
00:24:19.780 Well, you know,
00:24:20.280 the difference between me
00:24:20.920 and her
00:24:21.220 is that she still
00:24:22.980 sort of believes
00:24:23.800 in liberty a little bit.
00:24:25.700 That's her problem.
00:24:26.560 Now, it used to be
00:24:28.840 that the left
00:24:29.500 gave lip service
00:24:31.700 to freedom.
00:24:33.200 They supported
00:24:34.620 and enjoyed
00:24:35.440 and loved freedom
00:24:37.320 in theory
00:24:38.020 but not in practice.
00:24:40.620 Now, they've kind of dropped,
00:24:42.280 they've torn off the mask,
00:24:44.100 they've dropped the act,
00:24:45.400 and they don't even support
00:24:46.820 freedom in theory anymore.
00:24:48.980 They're just anti-freedom.
00:24:51.500 And that's Bernie Sanders,
00:24:53.080 that's his whole campaign,
00:24:54.300 really.
00:24:54.620 That's his whole campaign
00:24:55.500 is saying, you know,
00:24:55.980 you don't need freedom
00:24:56.660 and liberty.
00:24:57.320 Who cares about that?
00:24:58.920 What you need
00:24:59.440 is the government
00:25:00.040 to take care of you.
00:25:01.740 My children,
00:25:02.600 that's what you need.
00:25:04.080 There, there.
00:25:04.740 Pat on the head.
00:25:06.580 Okay, one other thing
00:25:07.680 before we get to emails.
00:25:09.200 Media matters.
00:25:10.040 You know,
00:25:10.420 I love media matters
00:25:12.240 at the Daily,
00:25:12.800 here at the Daily Wire,
00:25:13.740 we all love media matters.
00:25:16.080 They do so much
00:25:17.100 to promote us
00:25:17.880 and for free.
00:25:19.460 You know,
00:25:20.160 all these companies
00:25:20.940 are stuck
00:25:23.420 sort of paying
00:25:24.460 for marketing
00:25:25.120 while we have
00:25:26.620 media matters
00:25:27.200 to market for us
00:25:28.020 for free.
00:25:29.600 And my favorite thing
00:25:30.540 that media matters does
00:25:31.220 is they'll watch
00:25:32.740 all the Daily Wire shows.
00:25:34.780 They're watching
00:25:35.500 this one right now,
00:25:36.340 so whoever you are watching,
00:25:38.300 whatever media matters,
00:25:39.640 Minion is watching,
00:25:40.600 I say hello
00:25:41.080 and thank you
00:25:41.800 for being here.
00:25:43.120 Welcome to the show.
00:25:44.980 Hope you found
00:25:45.600 something useful.
00:25:47.360 What I would recommend,
00:25:48.240 actually,
00:25:48.580 media matters guy,
00:25:49.400 is go,
00:25:50.240 I'm sure you've probably
00:25:51.100 already done it,
00:25:51.600 but my opening thing
00:25:53.300 about Columbus,
00:25:54.080 I'm sure there's stuff
00:25:54.740 you could find there.
00:25:55.600 Maybe cut a clip of that,
00:25:57.320 put it on,
00:25:58.200 accuse me of racism
00:25:59.040 or whatever,
00:25:59.720 whatever you're going to do,
00:26:01.700 xenophobia,
00:26:02.600 whatever your thing is.
00:26:04.500 Who knows,
00:26:05.080 maybe even homophobia.
00:26:06.060 Maybe there's a way
00:26:06.640 you can make that homophobic.
00:26:07.620 I don't know.
00:26:08.420 It's always fun to see
00:26:09.340 what you guys do with it.
00:26:10.360 I really enjoy it
00:26:11.300 because I enjoy,
00:26:12.640 I do the show
00:26:13.220 and,
00:26:14.380 you know,
00:26:16.040 I make my points
00:26:17.140 and then I love
00:26:19.040 to see
00:26:19.500 how the media matters,
00:26:22.620 they can take
00:26:23.960 something that I've said
00:26:24.840 and find a point
00:26:26.640 that I didn't make
00:26:27.620 and I just,
00:26:28.840 I love to see
00:26:29.360 how they do it.
00:26:30.520 Kind of putting the pieces
00:26:31.580 of the puzzle together.
00:26:32.800 So I'll look forward to that
00:26:33.960 because I know
00:26:36.780 what my show's about
00:26:37.600 but then I go
00:26:39.020 to media matters
00:26:39.700 and I find out
00:26:40.620 what they think
00:26:41.240 it was about.
00:26:41.860 So I can go and say,
00:26:42.540 what was my show
00:26:43.380 about today?
00:26:46.040 Anyway,
00:26:46.400 so last week
00:26:49.140 they were going
00:26:49.560 after Ben
00:26:50.280 because he had
00:26:51.020 the audacity
00:26:51.640 to say that
00:26:52.220 he would physically
00:26:52.800 defend his child
00:26:53.520 against forced
00:26:54.080 indoctrination
00:26:55.100 by the state.
00:26:56.700 A sentiment shared
00:26:57.680 by literally
00:26:58.340 any loving parent
00:26:59.540 in the country.
00:27:01.740 What he said
00:27:02.380 about that,
00:27:03.660 that he would
00:27:06.620 physically defend
00:27:07.260 his child
00:27:07.640 from forced
00:27:08.680 indoctrination,
00:27:09.580 that's,
00:27:10.160 any parent
00:27:10.740 would feel that way.
00:27:12.580 Now they also
00:27:13.140 came after me
00:27:14.060 and I thought
00:27:15.260 this was great.
00:27:15.880 Jason Campbell
00:27:16.780 at Media Matters
00:27:17.560 posted this clip
00:27:18.300 of my show
00:27:18.740 from Friday.
00:27:19.840 He posted it
00:27:20.540 because he thought
00:27:21.100 it was really bad
00:27:21.900 and controversial
00:27:22.580 and outrageous
00:27:23.680 and he thought
00:27:25.720 people would be
00:27:26.220 mad at me about it
00:27:27.160 and let me,
00:27:28.180 let me play,
00:27:28.860 I hope this isn't
00:27:29.500 too self-indulgent
00:27:30.240 but I want to play
00:27:30.880 for you the clip
00:27:32.000 of my show
00:27:32.880 that Jason Campbell
00:27:34.620 from Media Matters
00:27:35.340 put up.
00:27:35.760 Watch this.
00:27:37.000 It's almost like
00:27:37.560 these parents
00:27:38.100 are conditioning
00:27:38.720 their kids
00:27:39.300 to have gender
00:27:39.980 confusion
00:27:40.460 so that they,
00:27:41.760 the parents,
00:27:42.620 can parade
00:27:43.220 their children around
00:27:44.100 like fashion statements
00:27:45.380 saying,
00:27:46.960 look at me,
00:27:47.300 look how woke I am,
00:27:48.220 my own kid
00:27:48.800 is transgender,
00:27:49.600 look,
00:27:50.040 look!
00:27:52.720 It's horrifying,
00:27:53.660 it really is.
00:27:55.160 That young girl,
00:27:56.360 and she is a girl,
00:27:57.440 she is being abused.
00:27:59.900 This is psychological
00:28:01.000 and emotional abuse
00:28:02.280 of the worst kind
00:28:04.340 because you're
00:28:07.520 depriving her
00:28:08.460 of a childhood,
00:28:10.800 you're depriving her
00:28:11.620 of an identity,
00:28:13.400 you are forcing her
00:28:15.600 to have an identity crisis,
00:28:17.800 I just love that
00:28:20.260 because,
00:28:21.180 and if you go
00:28:21.640 and you,
00:28:21.940 if you go to Twitter
00:28:22.700 and you see that,
00:28:23.460 that post from,
00:28:25.560 from Jason Campbell,
00:28:27.040 you're going to find,
00:28:27.920 you read,
00:28:28.200 and you look at the comments,
00:28:29.440 most of the comments
00:28:30.360 are saying,
00:28:31.020 well,
00:28:31.180 yeah,
00:28:31.320 I agree with him.
00:28:32.960 Absolutely.
00:28:33.360 Because what I'm saying there
00:28:35.900 is just,
00:28:36.620 it's not any great insight,
00:28:38.680 there's nothing,
00:28:39.220 there's nothing terribly insightful
00:28:40.740 or smart about it,
00:28:43.380 it's just,
00:28:43.820 it's just really basic common sense
00:28:46.140 that any sane,
00:28:48.320 normal person agrees with.
00:28:51.940 That trying to impose
00:28:53.600 gender confusion
00:28:54.700 on your child
00:28:55.900 is abusive,
00:28:56.920 it is psychological
00:28:57.680 and emotional abuse.
00:28:59.940 I 100% stand by that,
00:29:01.800 I make absolutely
00:29:02.740 no apology for it at all.
00:29:05.300 I'll just continue
00:29:06.340 to reiterate the point.
00:29:08.700 And,
00:29:08.760 and what's more,
00:29:11.320 this is,
00:29:11.940 again,
00:29:12.300 any normal person agrees.
00:29:15.980 So you find how the left
00:29:17.660 is just,
00:29:18.500 they're getting to the point now
00:29:19.720 where they don't even understand
00:29:22.340 how normal people think.
00:29:25.420 Where they see a clip like that
00:29:27.320 and they think,
00:29:29.040 so here's the great thing,
00:29:30.860 is that media matters,
00:29:32.640 they didn't even
00:29:33.440 try to twist it
00:29:35.520 or usually they'll twist
00:29:36.760 what,
00:29:37.480 what one of us says
00:29:38.400 and they'll,
00:29:38.820 they'll try to,
00:29:39.600 like I said,
00:29:39.920 they'll try to find racism
00:29:41.500 or homophobia
00:29:42.180 or whatever
00:29:42.660 where it doesn't exist.
00:29:44.780 Um,
00:29:45.380 but in this case,
00:29:46.940 they thought that what I said
00:29:49.580 was so self-evidently terrible
00:29:52.200 that they didn't even have
00:29:53.920 to explain it.
00:29:54.740 They would just quote it,
00:29:55.820 put the clip up
00:29:56.580 in context,
00:29:58.460 I'll admit,
00:29:58.880 that's totally in context
00:30:00.020 and they thought
00:30:01.120 it's just self-explanatory.
00:30:02.620 Put it up
00:30:03.080 and people would see it
00:30:03.840 and think how horrible
00:30:04.700 that man is.
00:30:07.560 When really,
00:30:08.260 it's the opposite.
00:30:09.140 90% of people hear that
00:30:11.040 and think,
00:30:11.540 well, yeah,
00:30:11.800 of course,
00:30:12.380 that's how I feel.
00:30:16.260 They,
00:30:16.800 they,
00:30:17.180 they're going so far
00:30:18.320 off the cliff
00:30:18.940 that they,
00:30:19.440 they're not even capable
00:30:20.600 of understanding
00:30:21.720 how normal people think.
00:30:24.740 it is,
00:30:27.280 uh,
00:30:27.440 it's remarkable.
00:30:30.760 And now,
00:30:31.840 we've gotten to the point
00:30:33.460 now on the left
00:30:34.260 where,
00:30:34.640 um,
00:30:36.240 you know,
00:30:37.140 uh,
00:30:37.640 uh,
00:30:38.040 having a child
00:30:40.040 who,
00:30:40.560 a seven-year-old
00:30:41.380 transgender child,
00:30:42.460 that on the left now
00:30:43.460 is,
00:30:43.680 is this mainstream thing
00:30:45.380 where everyone's supposed
00:30:46.440 to accept it,
00:30:47.500 nobody can question it.
00:30:48.840 when,
00:30:50.660 of course,
00:30:50.900 10 years ago,
00:30:52.220 even people on the left
00:30:53.440 would have said,
00:30:54.000 well,
00:30:54.180 hold on a second.
00:30:55.000 This is,
00:30:55.500 that's,
00:30:55.960 hold on.
00:30:56.680 I mean,
00:30:56.880 they're kids.
00:30:57.440 Let's,
00:30:57.740 let's,
00:30:57.980 let's calm down
00:30:58.640 for a second here.
00:31:00.920 So you're taking this position
00:31:02.220 that 10 years ago,
00:31:03.120 even on the far left
00:31:04.760 would have seemed radical,
00:31:06.680 kind of absurd,
00:31:07.720 way too far,
00:31:08.620 and now it's mainstream.
00:31:09.820 And if you question it,
00:31:10.980 then you are
00:31:12.000 self-evidently a bigot
00:31:13.960 in their mind.
00:31:16.080 All right,
00:31:16.260 let's go to emails,
00:31:17.040 mattwalshow at gmail.com,
00:31:18.580 mattwalshow at gmail.com.
00:31:20.880 This is from Jessica,
00:31:21.860 says,
00:31:22.120 hi,
00:31:22.340 Matt,
00:31:22.480 I'm a big fan of your show.
00:31:23.840 I listen to it every day
00:31:24.900 while I'm at work.
00:31:26.060 I heard about a joke
00:31:26.840 that SNL made
00:31:27.580 about Pope Francis
00:31:28.360 saying that there were
00:31:29.560 going to be discussions
00:31:30.520 about lifting the celibacy
00:31:31.680 requirement for priests.
00:31:33.620 I looked up the article
00:31:34.660 and I believe it was
00:31:35.720 in response to a specific
00:31:36.880 situation in parts
00:31:37.760 of South Africa
00:31:38.400 where the church,
00:31:39.360 or South America,
00:31:40.080 rather,
00:31:40.560 where the church
00:31:41.020 is underrepresented.
00:31:42.740 As a Catholic,
00:31:43.520 I've often wondered
00:31:44.400 if allowing priests
00:31:45.240 to be married
00:31:46.140 and have families
00:31:46.780 would be such a big deal.
00:31:48.080 I feel like since
00:31:48.680 there's a priest shortage
00:31:49.460 in general,
00:31:50.260 not just in South America,
00:31:51.680 that allowing them
00:31:52.320 to be married
00:31:52.880 and have families
00:31:53.560 would make priesthood
00:31:54.260 a more realistic option
00:31:55.340 for people
00:31:55.760 and more men
00:31:56.780 would be interested
00:31:57.360 in becoming one.
00:31:58.820 Yeah, Jessica,
00:31:59.640 I find myself
00:32:00.200 more and more amenable
00:32:01.020 to this idea.
00:32:02.120 I think the desire
00:32:02.860 to have a family,
00:32:04.540 to have a wife,
00:32:06.180 is a good and healthy desire
00:32:07.700 for a man to have.
00:32:10.140 The church is ruling out
00:32:11.760 a lot of potentially
00:32:12.960 good priests
00:32:13.760 simply because
00:32:15.100 they have a good
00:32:15.880 and healthy desire.
00:32:17.920 And I think maybe
00:32:18.720 that's not a good strategy.
00:32:21.240 I think to remain celibate
00:32:22.860 your whole life
00:32:23.600 requires a superhuman
00:32:26.060 self-control.
00:32:27.700 And it's obvious
00:32:28.440 that a lot of priests
00:32:29.280 don't have that self-control.
00:32:32.660 But they're being set up
00:32:33.760 to fail,
00:32:34.600 you know,
00:32:34.900 they're being set up
00:32:35.440 to fail in service
00:32:36.560 of an extraordinary requirement
00:32:38.200 that in and of itself
00:32:39.380 is not really necessary
00:32:40.920 and maybe not even beneficial.
00:32:44.900 So you're setting up
00:32:45.860 all these priests
00:32:46.440 to fail
00:32:46.900 simply because
00:32:48.520 they can't manage
00:32:50.780 to,
00:32:52.600 what,
00:32:53.680 reject
00:32:54.260 the very natural
00:32:57.260 desire to have a family?
00:33:00.420 And that is what,
00:33:01.420 and that's what a lot of people
00:33:02.160 don't understand.
00:33:03.260 In the church,
00:33:04.200 the problems
00:33:06.660 in the priesthood,
00:33:09.100 you know,
00:33:11.140 when we talk about this,
00:33:12.160 now,
00:33:12.580 when we're talking about
00:33:14.160 the pedophilia
00:33:16.220 in the priesthood,
00:33:17.540 well,
00:33:18.880 with that,
00:33:19.580 getting rid of the
00:33:20.020 celibacy requirement,
00:33:20.840 that's not going to do
00:33:21.460 anything for that.
00:33:23.420 If you've got pedophiles
00:33:24.600 coming into the priesthood,
00:33:25.580 that's,
00:33:25.940 you know,
00:33:26.520 whatever the celibacy
00:33:27.360 requirement is,
00:33:28.040 that's,
00:33:28.520 you're not going to solve
00:33:29.640 that,
00:33:30.100 the pedophile problem.
00:33:31.160 And people always
00:33:31.720 point that out.
00:33:32.260 They say,
00:33:32.540 well,
00:33:32.640 that's,
00:33:32.940 you know,
00:33:33.300 the celibacy requirement
00:33:34.360 has nothing to do with it.
00:33:35.420 It's not going to solve
00:33:35.960 the problem.
00:33:36.580 Yeah,
00:33:36.760 it's not going to solve
00:33:37.440 that issue,
00:33:38.420 but that's been
00:33:39.380 the minority of cases.
00:33:43.480 The more common
00:33:45.680 and more widespread problem,
00:33:48.340 even if it doesn't get
00:33:49.000 media attention
00:33:49.640 because the media
00:33:50.100 doesn't really care about it,
00:33:51.620 but if you talk to any priest,
00:33:52.800 they'll tell you
00:33:53.220 that the more widespread issue
00:33:54.800 is just priests
00:33:56.920 who end up in
00:34:00.280 consensual relationships
00:34:02.220 with other adults,
00:34:03.760 men or women.
00:34:05.500 And that is a big issue
00:34:07.180 in the priesthood
00:34:07.680 across the board.
00:34:12.420 And it probably always has been
00:34:13.640 to a certain extent
00:34:14.280 because again,
00:34:15.040 when you're telling people
00:34:17.400 that they have to be celibate
00:34:18.320 their whole lives,
00:34:18.780 there's going to be a certain,
00:34:19.900 probably significant percentage
00:34:21.220 who just can't do it.
00:34:22.760 They can't live up to that.
00:34:24.920 But I just wonder
00:34:25.840 if this is creating
00:34:27.740 a lot of chaos
00:34:29.740 and turmoil
00:34:30.580 and everything
00:34:31.460 that isn't necessary.
00:34:33.940 And so maybe the church
00:34:35.740 could say,
00:34:37.200 yeah,
00:34:37.840 if you're a married man,
00:34:39.440 faithful to your wife,
00:34:42.620 you have a family,
00:34:44.340 sure,
00:34:44.840 we welcome you.
00:34:46.680 Maybe that's exactly
00:34:47.920 the kind of man
00:34:48.800 we want in the priesthood,
00:34:50.180 it turns out.
00:34:52.080 All right.
00:34:53.180 Let's go to,
00:34:54.800 from Nathan says,
00:34:55.720 Matt,
00:34:55.960 what did you think
00:34:56.380 of the new Breaking Bad movie?
00:34:57.680 Yeah,
00:34:57.820 El Camino,
00:34:58.480 the Breaking Bad movie
00:34:59.340 came out.
00:34:59.720 I know a lot of people
00:35:00.300 were disappointed in it.
00:35:01.420 It came out on Netflix
00:35:02.020 on Friday.
00:35:02.640 I really liked it.
00:35:03.460 I thought it was
00:35:04.120 a very good epilogue
00:35:05.260 to Breaking Bad series.
00:35:09.600 It didn't reinvent the wheel,
00:35:11.300 but it wasn't supposed to.
00:35:12.440 I enjoyed going back
00:35:13.660 and revisiting those characters.
00:35:15.440 I think Vince Gilligan
00:35:16.220 is a genius,
00:35:17.720 the writer of the show,
00:35:18.560 creator of the show.
00:35:21.280 To be able to go back
00:35:22.460 after, what,
00:35:22.920 five or six years
00:35:23.760 and reclaim,
00:35:25.540 you know,
00:35:25.700 kind of,
00:35:26.980 not just tell the,
00:35:28.280 not just go back
00:35:29.080 into that world,
00:35:29.800 but really capture
00:35:30.740 that world again.
00:35:32.660 I think a lot of people
00:35:34.740 couldn't do that.
00:35:35.640 And you see so often
00:35:37.000 where you have these shows
00:35:37.920 that are resurrected
00:35:38.620 or whatever
00:35:39.280 after many years
00:35:39.980 and they fail
00:35:41.280 to capture the feel
00:35:42.440 of the original show.
00:35:44.160 And in this case,
00:35:44.680 I think Gilligan
00:35:45.920 did a great job of that.
00:35:47.340 And so I liked it.
00:35:48.360 All right.
00:35:48.560 This is from Mitchell,
00:35:49.680 says,
00:35:49.920 Hi, Matt,
00:35:50.320 love the show
00:35:50.920 and seeing as though
00:35:51.880 you're a new father
00:35:52.580 once more.
00:35:53.580 I'm wondering
00:35:54.020 what your thoughts are
00:35:54.860 on spanking your children.
00:35:56.060 I'm 25
00:35:56.580 and not thinking
00:35:57.280 of having a child yet.
00:35:58.060 However,
00:35:58.660 I am torn on this topic
00:35:59.720 and hope that you
00:36:00.340 can shed some insight.
00:36:02.520 Yeah, Mitchell,
00:36:02.960 that's a great question.
00:36:03.700 So there are two,
00:36:04.480 two sort of
00:36:05.940 different questions here.
00:36:07.020 One is,
00:36:07.700 am I against spanking
00:36:08.740 in principle?
00:36:09.900 And the second is,
00:36:10.820 do I,
00:36:11.320 do I myself
00:36:12.300 choose to spank my kids?
00:36:14.100 The answer to the second one
00:36:15.340 is no,
00:36:15.820 I don't.
00:36:16.740 We don't spank.
00:36:17.720 But that doesn't
00:36:19.580 necessarily mean
00:36:20.480 that our answer
00:36:21.300 to the first question
00:36:23.340 is yes,
00:36:24.280 that we're against it
00:36:25.020 in principle.
00:36:26.840 Okay,
00:36:27.100 so,
00:36:28.060 so this is really
00:36:29.800 our thought process.
00:36:31.880 My,
00:36:31.960 well,
00:36:33.260 my wife and I
00:36:34.500 are on the same page,
00:36:35.240 but I'm not going to speak
00:36:35.800 for her,
00:36:36.160 so I'll just speak
00:36:36.940 for myself.
00:36:38.000 This is my thought process.
00:36:40.220 I don't spank
00:36:41.180 our kids
00:36:42.160 and I'll tell you
00:36:43.600 the reason.
00:36:45.160 I think that spanking
00:36:46.260 can be a valid,
00:36:47.920 legitimate,
00:36:49.720 constructive form
00:36:50.700 of discipline.
00:36:52.220 I also think
00:36:53.380 it can be abuse,
00:36:55.060 right?
00:36:55.800 And I think
00:36:56.480 we'd all agree,
00:36:57.280 right,
00:36:57.620 that,
00:36:57.920 I mean,
00:36:58.740 nobody thinks,
00:36:59.940 no decent person
00:37:00.860 thinks that parents
00:37:02.280 just have carte blanche
00:37:03.380 to hit their kids
00:37:04.320 whenever they want,
00:37:05.480 however they want,
00:37:06.200 for whatever reason,
00:37:06.960 in whatever way.
00:37:09.200 Obviously,
00:37:09.780 there is such a thing
00:37:10.580 as physical abuse.
00:37:12.660 No,
00:37:13.120 I don't think
00:37:13.500 that spanking
00:37:14.020 in principle
00:37:14.900 is physical abuse,
00:37:16.020 but I think
00:37:16.460 it can be.
00:37:17.520 And I think
00:37:17.880 the line
00:37:18.420 between constructive
00:37:19.380 discipline and abuse
00:37:20.520 is somewhat subtle
00:37:22.280 and that scares me
00:37:24.240 because,
00:37:24.760 again,
00:37:25.120 on one side
00:37:26.040 of that line
00:37:26.600 is constructive
00:37:27.300 discipline.
00:37:28.020 On the other side
00:37:28.940 is,
00:37:29.860 well,
00:37:30.140 you're physically
00:37:30.660 abusing your kid.
00:37:31.980 And so,
00:37:33.160 you know,
00:37:33.420 it can be
00:37:35.040 a somewhat fine line
00:37:36.340 sometimes,
00:37:37.860 but the fact
00:37:39.360 that
00:37:39.720 on one side
00:37:41.780 of that line
00:37:42.640 is something
00:37:43.180 so horrific,
00:37:44.160 like physical abuse
00:37:44.960 of a child,
00:37:46.460 that,
00:37:46.820 you know,
00:37:48.280 scares me
00:37:48.720 a little bit.
00:37:49.900 So here's
00:37:50.420 what I think
00:37:50.680 it comes down to.
00:37:51.260 If you're hitting
00:37:51.800 your child
00:37:52.300 in anger,
00:37:53.820 call it spanking
00:37:54.720 if you want,
00:37:55.400 but if you are
00:37:56.580 spanking your child
00:37:57.620 because you're pissed off
00:37:58.880 and you had a long day,
00:38:02.540 you're overwhelmed,
00:38:04.120 you're at the end
00:38:05.220 of your rope,
00:38:05.720 whatever,
00:38:07.560 that is physical abuse.
00:38:09.200 No question.
00:38:10.920 Now,
00:38:11.220 there's nothing wrong
00:38:11.840 with being angry
00:38:12.740 and being frustrated.
00:38:14.200 You had a long day.
00:38:14.980 You're at the end
00:38:15.320 of your rope.
00:38:15.720 All parents feel
00:38:16.680 like that sometimes.
00:38:17.420 I know that I do.
00:38:19.400 But
00:38:19.760 hitting your child
00:38:21.640 as a way
00:38:22.980 of communicating
00:38:23.660 your frustration
00:38:24.520 or letting off steam
00:38:26.840 is physical abuse,
00:38:29.780 obviously.
00:38:30.520 There's no way around it.
00:38:32.800 My concern,
00:38:33.720 my worry,
00:38:34.340 is that
00:38:34.840 I think a lot
00:38:36.600 of people
00:38:36.920 who spank their kids
00:38:37.940 spank them
00:38:39.020 like that
00:38:39.740 in anger
00:38:41.180 that's even
00:38:45.220 the kind of spanking
00:38:45.960 and this is not
00:38:47.140 necessarily
00:38:47.960 a fair sample,
00:38:49.140 but the kind of spanking
00:38:50.460 that you see
00:38:50.960 in public sometimes
00:38:51.820 where a mother
00:38:54.120 is kind of
00:38:55.680 losing her temper
00:38:56.840 at the grocery store
00:38:57.620 and swatting the kid
00:38:58.480 or whatever.
00:38:59.040 We've all seen
00:38:59.720 scenes like that.
00:39:01.920 That's almost
00:39:02.560 always in anger.
00:39:05.940 Now,
00:39:06.200 it's not necessarily,
00:39:07.380 like I said,
00:39:07.660 it's not a fair sampling
00:39:08.660 because the people
00:39:09.640 who don't spank
00:39:10.800 in anger
00:39:11.160 are by definition
00:39:12.920 not doing it in public
00:39:13.940 so we don't really
00:39:14.500 see that happening.
00:39:17.260 But
00:39:17.500 I often hear people
00:39:20.340 reminiscing
00:39:21.120 fondly
00:39:22.580 about their own
00:39:23.640 physical abuse
00:39:24.360 as a kid.
00:39:24.900 It's sort of disturbing.
00:39:26.280 And what it tells me
00:39:27.020 is that they're probably
00:39:28.080 doing the same thing
00:39:29.020 to their kids
00:39:29.600 if they think of it
00:39:31.980 in such a positive way
00:39:33.760 what happened to them.
00:39:34.880 But, you know,
00:39:36.460 you'll hear people
00:39:37.220 it's like when
00:39:38.160 there's a story
00:39:39.120 about a kid
00:39:39.800 behaving terribly
00:39:40.720 at school
00:39:41.340 and you'll hear
00:39:43.600 someone say
00:39:44.140 something like,
00:39:44.940 oh man,
00:39:45.680 you know,
00:39:45.840 when I was a kid
00:39:46.600 if I did that
00:39:47.720 when I got home
00:39:48.360 my dad would
00:39:49.000 have lost it
00:39:49.900 and beat the hell
00:39:50.500 out of me.
00:39:52.240 Okay,
00:39:52.700 so your dad
00:39:53.440 would have abused you
00:39:54.380 is what you're saying.
00:39:55.760 Your dad
00:39:56.460 would have gotten angry
00:39:57.500 and taken out
00:39:58.340 his frustration
00:39:59.100 by beating up
00:40:00.040 a child.
00:40:01.160 So you realize
00:40:02.040 that's bad,
00:40:02.800 right?
00:40:03.820 You know,
00:40:04.380 you realize
00:40:04.960 that your dad
00:40:06.100 abused you.
00:40:06.880 That's abuse.
00:40:07.540 That's not okay.
00:40:10.660 It's,
00:40:11.800 to beat up a child
00:40:12.800 because you're pissed off
00:40:13.760 is cowardly
00:40:14.720 and wrong
00:40:15.440 and it's just,
00:40:16.140 that's not okay.
00:40:18.160 So maybe it's just
00:40:19.000 a figure of speech
00:40:19.820 or something
00:40:20.460 but the way people
00:40:22.380 sometimes talk about
00:40:23.600 the discipline
00:40:25.000 that they got
00:40:25.660 when they were kids,
00:40:27.460 hearing the story,
00:40:28.680 I think as a parent
00:40:29.920 that is actually horrible.
00:40:31.200 I would never do that
00:40:31.940 to my kid.
00:40:35.140 Now,
00:40:35.660 I mean,
00:40:37.480 even a phrase like,
00:40:38.440 and you hear this,
00:40:38.980 like,
00:40:39.180 beat the hell out.
00:40:39.780 Oh,
00:40:39.920 my dad would have
00:40:40.380 beat the hell out.
00:40:41.460 Beat the hell out of you?
00:40:42.700 That's,
00:40:43.060 again,
00:40:43.380 that's not,
00:40:44.140 no,
00:40:44.420 that's not good.
00:40:47.100 That was your dad
00:40:47.960 being a coward
00:40:48.760 if that's really
00:40:50.160 what he did.
00:40:52.360 I mean,
00:40:52.600 what,
00:40:52.780 beat the hell
00:40:53.280 out of a seven-year-old?
00:40:56.320 And,
00:40:56.560 and you're putting that,
00:40:58.040 that's what,
00:40:58.500 that's a manly form
00:40:59.940 of being a parent?
00:41:02.200 I mean,
00:41:02.760 control your emotions,
00:41:03.840 be a man,
00:41:04.540 control yourself.
00:41:06.040 That's what you want
00:41:06.820 from your own kids.
00:41:09.340 What do we tell
00:41:10.000 our own kids all the time?
00:41:11.060 Use your words,
00:41:12.060 control yourself.
00:41:13.780 It's not okay
00:41:14.500 to get mad
00:41:14.960 and hit somebody.
00:41:15.980 I'm telling my own,
00:41:16.920 my own six-year-old son
00:41:17.840 this all the time
00:41:18.640 because he's a child
00:41:19.880 and he has a lot of aggression.
00:41:20.980 He doesn't know
00:41:21.300 how to communicate it.
00:41:22.500 And so he'll get mad
00:41:23.280 and he'll hit somebody.
00:41:24.880 And so I'm always telling him,
00:41:26.200 that's not okay.
00:41:27.080 You do not express
00:41:28.340 your anger that way.
00:41:29.620 So how could I turn around
00:41:31.320 and do it
00:41:31.800 if I'm telling him
00:41:32.460 all the time
00:41:33.000 not to do it?
00:41:35.240 Now,
00:41:35.840 on the other hand,
00:41:37.840 not all spanking
00:41:40.320 is like that.
00:41:41.640 I think there is
00:41:42.500 a healthy form of it.
00:41:43.960 The healthy form
00:41:44.920 is one
00:41:45.560 completely devoid
00:41:46.900 of anger.
00:41:47.400 I think this is so important.
00:41:49.100 There is no anger
00:41:50.400 in it at all.
00:41:52.040 You're spanking
00:41:52.800 your child
00:41:53.400 because that is
00:41:54.120 the penalty
00:41:54.600 and you're taking
00:41:56.080 a very business-like
00:41:57.100 approach
00:41:57.600 and you're saying,
00:41:59.820 okay,
00:42:00.180 here's what you did.
00:42:01.740 Here's the penalty.
00:42:03.060 And now I'm going
00:42:03.720 to dole out that penalty.
00:42:05.460 You're not angry.
00:42:06.600 You're not beating
00:42:07.200 the hell out of.
00:42:08.120 You're not anything like that.
00:42:09.080 It's just you are
00:42:10.440 giving the child
00:42:12.820 the penalty
00:42:13.360 and you are in control
00:42:15.640 of your emotions
00:42:16.300 the whole time.
00:42:17.180 I think that kind
00:42:18.060 of spanking is fine
00:42:18.980 and that's fine parenting.
00:42:20.720 That's good parenting.
00:42:21.820 And I know that there are
00:42:22.700 parents who spank that way
00:42:23.780 and I say about that
00:42:25.820 that, you know,
00:42:26.720 great.
00:42:27.880 We don't do it
00:42:28.740 in our family
00:42:29.280 because it's not right
00:42:30.260 for us,
00:42:30.720 I don't think.
00:42:31.600 But I think that
00:42:33.200 if that's what you do,
00:42:34.920 fine.
00:42:36.600 But I just,
00:42:37.960 you know,
00:42:38.260 I think it's so important
00:42:39.140 to emphasize that
00:42:40.000 there cannot be
00:42:43.000 any emotion
00:42:43.680 or anger in it.
00:42:50.320 And,
00:42:50.980 but that's the problem
00:42:52.940 is that we,
00:42:53.480 we naturally get
00:42:54.720 angry at our kids
00:42:56.000 and parenting,
00:42:57.440 it can be a very
00:42:58.460 emotional thing
00:42:59.420 a lot of the time.
00:43:02.320 Not just because
00:43:03.080 you're angry at your kid,
00:43:04.020 but because you're,
00:43:04.860 you love your kid,
00:43:05.640 you're,
00:43:06.580 there's a lot of frustration.
00:43:07.820 You just,
00:43:08.140 you want your,
00:43:08.780 you know,
00:43:08.940 you just,
00:43:09.460 parenting is just
00:43:11.400 a jumble of emotion
00:43:12.240 sometimes
00:43:12.640 and it's hard
00:43:13.140 to sort through it.
00:43:13.800 so I don't know
00:43:17.040 to put those
00:43:19.840 emotions totally
00:43:20.860 to the side
00:43:21.600 and administer
00:43:22.200 a punishment like that.
00:43:23.640 Like,
00:43:24.080 as I said,
00:43:24.420 we just don't do it,
00:43:25.400 but
00:43:25.680 can that be difficult
00:43:30.580 sometimes?
00:43:30.920 I don't know.
00:43:33.280 I just,
00:43:34.080 it worries me
00:43:34.960 that again,
00:43:35.500 the way people
00:43:35.980 talk about spanking
00:43:37.080 often,
00:43:38.180 the way they talk
00:43:39.840 about it,
00:43:40.020 the way they describe it,
00:43:40.980 either their own
00:43:41.540 experience of it
00:43:42.340 when they were kids
00:43:42.960 or how they dole it out
00:43:44.000 now as parents,
00:43:45.820 from the way it sounds,
00:43:47.120 it sounds an awful lot
00:43:48.200 like abuse
00:43:48.740 and that,
00:43:49.600 that concerns me.
00:43:50.600 So,
00:43:51.260 that's what I would say.
00:43:56.120 All right,
00:43:56.720 we'll leave it there.
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