The Matt Walsh Show - October 14, 2019


Ep. 348 - The Great Columbus


Episode Stats

Length

44 minutes

Words per Minute

167.04143

Word Count

7,503

Sentence Count

476

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary

Happy Columbus Day, everybody! Today is a day to remember a great man. Why was he great? Well, because he sailed across uncharted waters to an unknown destination, and then he did it 3 more times. And in the process, he vastly expanded our knowledge and understanding of the world.


Transcript

00:00:00.140 Happy Columbus Day, everybody, and congratulations to anybody out there who actually gets to take off on Columbus Day.
00:00:06.160 I think that's a group that's now limited to public school teachers and post office employees.
00:00:11.400 I don't know if anyone else gets off anymore for Columbus Day, but it is a day to remember a great man.
00:00:18.180 And yes, I say a great man. Christopher Columbus was a great man.
00:00:21.580 Why was he great? Well, because he sailed across uncharted waters to an unknown destination,
00:00:26.460 and then he did it three more times. And in the process, he vastly expanded our knowledge and understanding of the world.
00:00:32.780 He planted the seeds of Western civilization. He changed the globe. He changed the course of history.
00:00:37.320 He had an impact on civilization that has lasted for 500 years and will last for 500 more than 1,000 years after that.
00:00:43.120 I would say that's something, isn't it? That's kind of impressive, maybe worthy of a statue, maybe worthy of your own day.
00:00:52.120 Now, if you want to have your own day in the future, you want to have your own statue, then do the same thing.
00:00:57.800 Change the course of history. Go ahead and try, if it's so easy to do.
00:01:03.580 One thing I'll say about Columbus Day, he certainly had an impact on history that far exceeds the impact
00:01:08.900 that his ungrateful modern critics, who enjoy the bounty of Western civilization,
00:01:16.420 while whining about the men who provided that bounty to them, will have.
00:01:24.960 Because those people who sit on Twitter and complain and say,
00:01:29.940 Christopher Columbus, he was a genocidal maniac, those people are going to die and be forgotten.
00:01:36.860 Nobody's going to remember them.
00:01:39.140 Because they're not doing anything with their lives.
00:01:43.000 Christopher Columbus is remembered 500 years later.
00:01:47.120 All I'm going to say is this, is that if, and hopefully maybe we can at least agree on this score.
00:01:55.120 If you can't even drive to the neighboring state, I forget about that.
00:02:00.820 If you can't even drive to your neighboring town, if you can't even drive to your local grocery store,
00:02:06.760 without the help of a satellite orbiting the earth, giving you step-by-step instructions,
00:02:13.140 saying, turn left here, turn right there, go 1.2 miles, turn right.
00:02:18.320 Okay, if you can't even do that,
00:02:20.980 if you can't even get to your CVS five blocks away,
00:02:24.840 without having to call upon the satellite,
00:02:27.180 satellite, help me!
00:02:28.120 Then maybe you can at least admit that it's kind of impressive that Columbus and his crew managed to make a voyage across thousands of miles of open ocean,
00:02:40.000 and then make it to a certain area on the map that wasn't even on the map yet,
00:02:44.920 because the map hadn't been drawn yet,
00:02:46.780 and then make it back there three more times.
00:02:52.420 Using routes, by the way, that are still used today.
00:02:58.220 500 years later.
00:02:59.260 Oh, but he thought he was going to Asia.
00:03:03.400 Stupid Columbus.
00:03:05.960 Thought he was going to Asia.
00:03:07.060 I didn't know where he was going.
00:03:09.640 Yes, it's true that Columbus committed the sin of not already having a completed map in front of him.
00:03:15.880 Do you know why you have a completed map?
00:03:17.980 Well, in fact, if you had a completed map, you couldn't use it,
00:03:20.820 because these days, even with a map,
00:03:23.500 even if someone gives us a map,
00:03:24.900 we are so ineffectual
00:03:26.760 that even if someone gives us a map
00:03:28.800 and shows us where to go, we couldn't do it.
00:03:30.600 We can't even read a map.
00:03:31.960 If you live in Cincinnati, Ohio,
00:03:34.420 and I gave you a map to show you how to get to Lexington, Kentucky,
00:03:37.480 if you're like a modern American,
00:03:38.960 you couldn't even do it.
00:03:39.980 You wouldn't have any idea.
00:03:41.440 What's this line mean?
00:03:42.520 What is that?
00:03:43.900 No, you need the satellite to say,
00:03:45.860 listen, dummy, make a right here, left there,
00:03:48.020 okay, go one.
00:03:48.740 That's what you need.
00:03:51.320 But Columbus, he didn't have the satellite.
00:03:52.680 He didn't have a map either,
00:03:53.700 and the reason he didn't have a map
00:03:55.000 is because no one had made a map of the world yet,
00:04:01.840 and the reason no one had made a map of the world
00:04:03.880 is that no one had seen the entire world, okay?
00:04:07.200 There were large swaths of the planet
00:04:09.260 that nobody had seen,
00:04:11.180 and so how could he know?
00:04:15.860 Oh, but the Vikings found North America.
00:04:18.300 Yeah, the Vikings did find North America,
00:04:20.100 but they didn't establish lasting settlements.
00:04:22.220 They didn't build upon that discovery,
00:04:26.680 and so that's how nobody knew.
00:04:30.440 The Vikings didn't understand what they had discovered.
00:04:35.340 But yeah, Leif Erikson, I mean, give the Vikings credit too.
00:04:38.140 I give all these guys credit.
00:04:40.600 It's very impressive to get into a ship
00:04:43.840 having no idea really where you're going
00:04:46.460 and to just sail that way.
00:04:47.980 That's how the map was originally drawn,
00:04:50.400 is that someone had to get in a ship
00:04:52.900 and just go that away.
00:04:57.480 And just like hundreds of years later,
00:04:59.960 when it was time to make a comprehensive map
00:05:04.340 of the continental United States,
00:05:06.920 someone had to just go that away,
00:05:10.600 cross the entire expanse of the continental U.S.
00:05:14.780 I mean, this took, there had to be courageous,
00:05:19.060 pioneering men to do this,
00:05:21.540 and I am grateful that they did.
00:05:24.960 Yeah, these guys, they weren't perfect.
00:05:28.820 In some ways, they had to not be perfect
00:05:32.560 because do you have any idea
00:05:35.260 what kind of person you have to be
00:05:38.500 to get on a ship leading a fleet of ships
00:05:43.080 with a bunch of men
00:05:44.760 and go across unknown waters?
00:05:49.140 You have no idea how long you're going to be gone
00:05:51.180 or how far you're going to have to go.
00:05:53.840 You have no idea if you're going to survive.
00:05:55.380 There's a very good chance you won't.
00:05:56.720 There's a very good chance you'll die.
00:06:00.560 But to maintain order
00:06:02.120 and discipline
00:06:04.260 and to prevent, you know, mutiny
00:06:06.480 and to prevent them from throwing you overboard
00:06:08.780 when they get sick and tired of being on the ship
00:06:10.860 and to make sure that everyone doesn't starve to death
00:06:13.640 or die of scurvy,
00:06:14.960 do you know what's required?
00:06:18.000 It takes men who are, yes,
00:06:19.880 a little bit brutal.
00:06:24.040 A little bit dictatorial, even.
00:06:27.420 That's what was required.
00:06:31.460 Without that,
00:06:32.380 without those kinds of men doing those things,
00:06:35.400 Western civilization,
00:06:36.640 as we know it,
00:06:37.620 does not exist.
00:06:38.820 And I, for one,
00:06:39.800 am quite glad that it does exist
00:06:41.500 because I like living here.
00:06:43.880 It's not perfect.
00:06:45.040 There are problems.
00:06:45.900 I'll be the first to point out those problems
00:06:47.600 and criticize those problems.
00:06:50.000 But I prefer living in Western civilization
00:06:53.020 than anywhere else.
00:06:56.260 And here's what I'll say to you.
00:06:57.520 If you feel terrible about living here,
00:06:59.920 if you feel guilt-ridden,
00:07:03.980 we have no right to be here,
00:07:05.300 we stole this land,
00:07:06.260 we're on stolen land,
00:07:07.200 so on and so forth.
00:07:08.160 Well, if you really feel that way,
00:07:10.140 then you are welcome to leave.
00:07:11.880 And I don't mean that as,
00:07:13.260 you know, this is not,
00:07:14.040 if you don't like it, get out.
00:07:15.200 That's not exactly what this is.
00:07:16.500 Well, that's a little bit what this is,
00:07:17.860 but it's true
00:07:18.760 that it's not even if you don't like it.
00:07:20.740 It's more if you feel
00:07:22.500 like there's a real moral problem
00:07:26.860 with us even being here,
00:07:28.460 then I think you are
00:07:29.500 morally obligated to leave.
00:07:33.520 If you really feel like
00:07:34.800 this is stolen property,
00:07:36.340 then why are you staying here?
00:07:39.440 Go somewhere else.
00:07:41.940 I hear the Middle East
00:07:42.980 is very nice this time of year.
00:07:45.620 Of course, the problem is
00:07:46.760 if you go anywhere else on the globe,
00:07:49.300 especially in the Middle East,
00:07:50.200 but really anywhere,
00:07:52.180 you are inevitably going to end up
00:07:54.120 on quote-unquote stolen land.
00:07:56.860 Because no matter where you go,
00:07:58.100 unless you're going to Antarctica
00:07:59.440 or something, okay,
00:08:01.340 unless you're going to some place
00:08:02.340 where nobody lives,
00:08:04.760 if you're going to a place
00:08:06.960 where there are people,
00:08:08.060 you are more than likely
00:08:09.760 going to end up,
00:08:10.420 no matter where it is,
00:08:11.380 no matter what continent,
00:08:12.460 it doesn't matter,
00:08:13.440 you're going to end up in a place
00:08:14.520 that has been quote-unquote stolen.
00:08:18.040 Historically.
00:08:18.440 Probably multiple times.
00:08:21.300 The people living on that plot of land,
00:08:23.600 their ancestors,
00:08:25.140 probably stole it
00:08:26.160 from the people
00:08:26.640 who were living before.
00:08:27.800 And those people
00:08:28.780 were probably stole it
00:08:29.680 from the people before that.
00:08:31.480 Because for thousands of years
00:08:32.940 of human civilization,
00:08:34.240 that's the way the world worked.
00:08:36.860 It was a time of conquest.
00:08:39.500 Where if you wanted to live
00:08:40.800 on a certain plot of land,
00:08:41.760 you fought for it.
00:08:44.360 And that's the way it worked everywhere.
00:08:46.120 It's not pretty.
00:08:48.460 It's not nice.
00:08:51.200 But that's the way it worked.
00:08:52.720 And it's very easy for us
00:08:54.400 in the year 2019
00:08:55.180 to sit here
00:08:55.940 and say,
00:08:56.680 well, that feels wrong.
00:08:58.060 I don't like that.
00:08:58.800 That makes my tummy hurt
00:09:00.120 to think that people did that.
00:09:01.500 I don't like it.
00:09:04.640 Okay, well, you know what?
00:09:05.400 That's what your ancestors did.
00:09:06.720 That's what everybody's ancestors did.
00:09:08.920 I mean, coming to the new world,
00:09:16.420 what do you think
00:09:17.640 the Indian civilizations were doing?
00:09:19.200 You think they were just
00:09:20.160 living peacefully with each other,
00:09:21.940 just playing patty cake?
00:09:23.120 What do you think they were doing?
00:09:25.780 How do you think the Aztecs,
00:09:28.100 when Cortez came across
00:09:30.080 the Aztec civilization,
00:09:31.320 what is now Mexico,
00:09:32.400 how do you think they
00:09:33.680 got all that land
00:09:35.620 they were living on?
00:09:37.100 How do you think they got it?
00:09:38.260 You think they just came in
00:09:39.520 and asked the inhabiting tribes nicely,
00:09:43.660 hey, would you guys mind
00:09:44.400 if we set up a civilization here?
00:09:45.560 Would you mind?
00:09:46.460 Oh, you would?
00:09:46.980 Well, never mind.
00:09:47.740 See you later.
00:09:49.160 No, you know what they did?
00:09:50.600 They came in,
00:09:52.500 they killed almost everybody,
00:09:54.720 and of the survivors,
00:09:56.260 they would take
00:09:56.840 some of the children
00:09:57.920 and some of the women,
00:09:59.820 some of the women
00:10:00.660 they would take as sex slaves,
00:10:01.960 and some of the children
00:10:02.800 they would take,
00:10:03.960 and they would cut out their hearts
00:10:05.960 as human sacrifices.
00:10:08.260 and then cut off their limbs
00:10:10.060 and eat them.
00:10:11.420 That's what the Aztecs did.
00:10:13.860 That's how they gained land.
00:10:16.940 It was a brutal time.
00:10:18.700 Very brutal.
00:10:21.100 And nobody's
00:10:23.400 ancestral hands are clean.
00:10:26.300 Nobody.
00:10:26.700 But again,
00:10:30.020 if you feel bad about it,
00:10:31.180 if you're real torn up,
00:10:32.980 I would respect that.
00:10:35.680 You know,
00:10:35.840 I would respect someone
00:10:36.720 who says,
00:10:37.240 you know what,
00:10:37.620 I just,
00:10:38.020 I really feel this is stolen land,
00:10:39.360 and I'm going to give my land back.
00:10:41.260 You could call up,
00:10:42.180 you know,
00:10:42.980 an Indian reservation.
00:10:45.520 You could say,
00:10:46.080 hey, you know,
00:10:46.580 I've got property,
00:10:47.420 I want to donate it to you,
00:10:48.880 and I'm going to go live,
00:10:50.260 and I don't know where.
00:10:50.980 I don't know where you're going to go.
00:10:51.960 Like I said,
00:10:52.480 there's nowhere you can really go
00:10:53.540 that isn't stolen,
00:10:54.260 but you could find someplace.
00:10:55.540 Maybe you will go down to Antarctica.
00:10:57.960 They have research facilities
00:10:59.340 down there.
00:10:59.820 You could see if you could set up
00:11:00.780 shop in one of those.
00:11:02.480 Build an igloo or something,
00:11:03.960 maybe.
00:11:07.540 So that was my yearly annual
00:11:09.380 Columbus rant.
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00:12:39.880 What's the controversy
00:12:40.640 of the day?
00:12:41.160 Well,
00:12:41.440 Columbus is one controversy
00:12:43.720 because 500 years later,
00:12:45.120 of course,
00:12:45.360 people still haven't
00:12:45.940 quite gotten over
00:12:46.840 things.
00:12:48.120 But the other
00:12:51.160 controversy is
00:12:52.300 over this meme.
00:12:54.360 And I can hardly
00:12:55.100 say that without laughing
00:12:56.380 because,
00:12:57.280 of course,
00:12:57.560 a controversy
00:12:58.180 over a meme
00:12:59.100 is just really,
00:13:00.180 that's very worthwhile,
00:13:02.840 isn't it,
00:13:03.180 for us to have
00:13:03.600 a controversy
00:13:04.040 over a meme?
00:13:05.140 There was an event
00:13:06.020 for Trump supporters
00:13:06.900 a few days ago
00:13:07.660 hosted by a group
00:13:08.380 called American Priority.
00:13:10.100 And it was held
00:13:10.960 at a Trump resort
00:13:11.860 in Miami.
00:13:14.480 Apparently,
00:13:14.860 during this event,
00:13:16.040 from what I've heard,
00:13:16.800 in one of the side rooms
00:13:17.860 at the resort,
00:13:18.880 there was a session
00:13:19.720 about memes.
00:13:21.740 And I don't really know
00:13:22.840 why,
00:13:23.320 but there was.
00:13:24.400 And a bunch of memes
00:13:25.720 were being played.
00:13:26.420 And one of the memes
00:13:27.480 has people very upset today
00:13:29.420 because it shows
00:13:30.060 President Trump
00:13:30.900 murdering a bunch
00:13:32.200 of news media logos
00:13:33.300 and a few people,
00:13:34.460 too.
00:13:34.840 Not real people,
00:13:35.640 but the faces of people
00:13:36.900 transplanted on other people.
00:13:39.640 And I'm not sure
00:13:40.460 how much of this
00:13:41.040 they'll let me play,
00:13:41.720 but I wanted to give you
00:13:42.400 a quick sampling
00:13:43.300 of this controversial meme
00:13:46.560 that has people
00:13:47.000 very upset today.
00:13:48.620 So here's a little bit
00:13:50.120 of that.
00:13:50.500 Watch.
00:13:51.440 How dare you separate them
00:13:53.100 from their parents?
00:13:54.840 We're going to rip your son
00:13:56.080 from his mother's arms
00:13:57.220 and throw him in a cage
00:13:58.680 full of pedophiles
00:13:59.820 and let them have...
00:14:01.300 So the video,
00:14:26.820 as I said,
00:14:28.300 it shows Trump
00:14:28.940 in what looks like a church
00:14:30.060 shooting a bunch of media logos
00:14:31.560 and media people.
00:14:33.540 From the reports I've read,
00:14:36.060 this was played in,
00:14:37.800 as I said,
00:14:38.340 a side room.
00:14:39.940 Most of the attendees
00:14:40.760 didn't see it,
00:14:41.920 weren't aware of it.
00:14:43.500 They learned about it
00:14:44.300 in the media reports.
00:14:45.780 Trump himself,
00:14:46.620 obviously,
00:14:47.000 had nothing to do with this.
00:14:48.020 He didn't put it together.
00:14:51.200 His campaign
00:14:51.680 had nothing to do with it.
00:14:53.160 Someone played it
00:14:54.460 in a mostly empty room.
00:14:55.760 A few people saw it.
00:14:57.100 And now everyone
00:14:58.380 has seen it
00:14:59.080 because the media,
00:15:00.780 ironically,
00:15:01.340 has amplified this message,
00:15:02.720 a message that they think
00:15:03.620 is so dangerous and horrible,
00:15:05.140 yet they're the ones
00:15:05.980 putting it out there
00:15:06.580 for everybody to see.
00:15:08.420 Now,
00:15:09.080 it is in poor taste,
00:15:10.740 certainly.
00:15:12.300 It's in poor taste.
00:15:14.140 It's stupid.
00:15:15.680 It's stupid on a number
00:15:16.900 of levels,
00:15:17.440 levels,
00:15:18.020 and it's even dumber
00:15:19.180 for a supporter
00:15:20.460 to play something like that
00:15:21.900 at an ostensible Trump event
00:15:24.020 because who do you think
00:15:25.760 you're helping?
00:15:27.360 Like,
00:15:27.660 what good do you think
00:15:28.660 is going to come of that?
00:15:30.520 So whoever it is
00:15:31.480 that put that together
00:15:32.320 and then decided
00:15:33.220 to play it at a Trump event,
00:15:34.280 you're definitely
00:15:36.260 not helping the guy
00:15:37.400 that you're ostensibly
00:15:38.120 trying to support.
00:15:39.500 There is no universe
00:15:40.740 where that's helpful.
00:15:42.820 Best case scenario
00:15:43.800 is that it makes
00:15:44.340 a few Trump supporters laugh,
00:15:46.260 but that's it.
00:15:48.400 You're not going to win
00:15:49.080 any votes
00:15:50.500 or win any favor that way,
00:15:52.340 so it's a very stupid thing.
00:15:53.920 But I can't help but think,
00:15:55.640 you know,
00:15:56.580 this meme uses
00:15:57.800 what is obviously
00:15:59.000 a scene from a movie,
00:16:00.920 and it turns out
00:16:01.680 that the movie
00:16:02.120 is called Kingsman,
00:16:04.020 a movie,
00:16:04.940 a well-known
00:16:05.560 blockbuster movie,
00:16:07.380 and now it's a franchise.
00:16:09.160 How many Kingsman movies?
00:16:10.560 There have been
00:16:11.120 two or three
00:16:11.560 Kingsman movies now.
00:16:12.420 I haven't seen them,
00:16:15.440 but apparently
00:16:16.160 there's a scene
00:16:16.840 in that film
00:16:17.500 where a guy,
00:16:18.920 Colin Firth,
00:16:19.660 slaughters a bunch
00:16:20.320 of people at a church.
00:16:22.240 And apparently
00:16:22.680 in the original movie,
00:16:23.940 these are Westboro
00:16:26.240 Baptist church
00:16:27.220 type people.
00:16:29.160 So basically,
00:16:30.060 it's a parody
00:16:30.620 of what Hollywood
00:16:31.660 thinks,
00:16:33.360 you know,
00:16:34.400 all churches are like.
00:16:35.680 This is a parody
00:16:36.740 of,
00:16:38.520 according to Hollywood,
00:16:39.840 every church,
00:16:40.660 especially in the South.
00:16:42.420 And the protagonist,
00:16:43.540 Colin Firth,
00:16:44.500 murders almost
00:16:46.680 everybody in the building
00:16:47.500 in the original scene.
00:16:51.220 And I do have to wonder
00:16:53.760 if this meme
00:16:54.800 is so offensive
00:16:55.640 and so potentially dangerous
00:16:57.760 and in such poor taste,
00:17:01.160 why isn't the original scene
00:17:03.480 also offensive
00:17:04.940 and dangerous
00:17:05.860 and in poor taste?
00:17:06.780 So if a guy
00:17:09.420 is slaughtering
00:17:10.200 a bunch of media members,
00:17:11.320 it's a problem,
00:17:11.880 but if he slaughters
00:17:12.820 a bunch of rubes
00:17:13.640 at a church,
00:17:14.260 it's okay.
00:17:15.740 That message is fine.
00:17:18.940 This scene
00:17:19.620 has been out there
00:17:20.320 for almost five years now.
00:17:23.340 Nobody ever complained
00:17:24.120 about it.
00:17:26.160 In fact,
00:17:26.860 it's more than that.
00:17:28.520 It's not just that
00:17:29.060 nobody complained
00:17:29.800 about this scene
00:17:30.480 when it first came out.
00:17:31.580 It's that they actively
00:17:32.500 celebrated it.
00:17:33.540 Let me read
00:17:36.600 a relevant passage
00:17:37.500 from a 2015
00:17:38.620 Washington Post review
00:17:39.940 of Kingsman.
00:17:40.680 This is what
00:17:41.060 the Washington Post
00:17:42.200 in 2015
00:17:42.680 had to say
00:17:43.720 about that scene
00:17:44.680 when it was just
00:17:46.220 Christians getting murdered
00:17:47.200 and not media members.
00:17:49.580 They said,
00:17:51.360 of course,
00:17:51.800 this being a modern movie,
00:17:53.040 there's loads of violence,
00:17:54.200 though most of it
00:17:54.740 is bloodless
00:17:55.260 and surprisingly balletic.
00:17:56.940 Balletic, ballet, you know.
00:17:59.000 Like a ballet
00:17:59.920 is what they say.
00:18:00.440 It's like a ballet.
00:18:02.100 One massacre
00:18:03.000 set in a conservative
00:18:04.000 Christian church
00:18:04.700 in the American Deep South
00:18:05.580 is a master class
00:18:07.080 in cartoonish
00:18:08.400 fight choreography.
00:18:10.080 A master class.
00:18:12.440 Now, I was trying
00:18:13.260 to find out more
00:18:14.200 about the context
00:18:15.320 of this original scene
00:18:16.240 and I found an article
00:18:17.180 on theringer.com
00:18:19.000 from a few years ago
00:18:20.680 which says that
00:18:21.580 this scene of
00:18:22.220 Colin Firth
00:18:22.720 slaughtering churchgoers
00:18:23.780 is the most, quote,
00:18:25.340 well-regarded scene
00:18:26.480 in the movie.
00:18:28.460 And then the article
00:18:30.220 goes on to use
00:18:30.960 a lot of very glowing
00:18:31.900 language to talk about it.
00:18:33.080 The article says,
00:18:33.900 quote,
00:18:34.660 it's an unquestionably
00:18:35.720 brilliant kinetic scene.
00:18:37.220 One that, without doubt,
00:18:38.940 is a master class
00:18:40.260 in fight timing
00:18:41.180 and filming.
00:18:41.800 Master class.
00:18:42.360 This was the favorite phrase
00:18:43.580 apparently used
00:18:44.300 to describe this scene.
00:18:46.760 So again,
00:18:47.540 when it's
00:18:48.000 a British guy
00:18:50.820 shooting a bunch
00:18:53.720 of parodies
00:18:55.400 of Christians,
00:18:57.180 it's a master class.
00:18:59.280 It's ballet.
00:18:59.920 It's kinetic.
00:19:01.280 It's enthralling.
00:19:03.080 It's beautiful to watch.
00:19:06.160 But when it's a meme
00:19:07.360 of Trump
00:19:07.920 shooting a bunch
00:19:08.500 of media people,
00:19:09.280 now it's horrible
00:19:10.200 to disgrace.
00:19:11.100 It's violent.
00:19:11.880 It's dangerous.
00:19:15.580 All of these things.
00:19:17.580 Now, the fact
00:19:18.320 that these characters
00:19:19.000 who are being killed
00:19:19.800 in the original scene,
00:19:20.860 and not even characters,
00:19:21.780 they're just meat puppets
00:19:22.760 whose only function
00:19:23.760 is just to get shot
00:19:24.520 in the head.
00:19:24.880 But the fact
00:19:26.760 that they're supposed
00:19:27.240 to be Westboro Baptist
00:19:28.380 types just makes it
00:19:29.780 worse in some ways.
00:19:30.900 Because one,
00:19:31.620 that's how Hollywood
00:19:32.320 again sees all Christians,
00:19:34.140 especially in the South.
00:19:35.380 But two,
00:19:36.660 making them Westboro Baptist
00:19:38.820 people is just
00:19:39.740 a cheap narrative trick
00:19:41.120 which allows the viewer
00:19:43.140 to find sick joy
00:19:44.500 in watching Christians
00:19:45.940 get killed.
00:19:47.500 You just make that
00:19:48.560 one little,
00:19:49.300 you know,
00:19:49.560 make them racist,
00:19:50.760 and all of a sudden
00:19:51.540 we can all watch it
00:19:52.460 and enjoy it.
00:19:53.620 When in reality,
00:19:54.560 of course,
00:19:55.420 yes,
00:19:55.740 the Westboro Baptist
00:19:56.400 people are scumbags.
00:19:57.360 I think we can all
00:19:57.900 agree, though,
00:19:58.560 that it wouldn't be okay
00:19:59.400 to go and shoot
00:20:00.100 50 of them in the head.
00:20:02.060 Right?
00:20:04.020 But this allows people,
00:20:05.660 especially media elites,
00:20:07.840 they can watch a scene
00:20:08.780 like that and play out
00:20:09.920 their sick fantasies
00:20:11.240 of killing Christians,
00:20:13.020 and they can feel okay
00:20:14.880 about it because the
00:20:15.720 Christians in this movie
00:20:16.560 are racist.
00:20:18.740 Never mind that,
00:20:20.120 again,
00:20:20.580 that the media thinks
00:20:21.640 that all Christians
00:20:22.220 are racist,
00:20:22.700 so as far as
00:20:23.200 they're concerned,
00:20:23.940 those could be anybody,
00:20:25.280 any Christian.
00:20:28.080 And, I mean,
00:20:29.000 I don't know how else
00:20:30.280 to interpret it
00:20:31.080 because if you're someone
00:20:33.960 who saw the original scene
00:20:36.900 and you loved it,
00:20:38.600 and then you see this meme
00:20:40.960 and you say,
00:20:42.340 this is terrible
00:20:42.940 because it allows people
00:20:44.720 to fantasize about
00:20:45.520 killing media members,
00:20:47.860 well, then I can only,
00:20:48.920 okay, well,
00:20:49.660 so that's how you see it.
00:20:50.640 So, then why did you
00:20:52.180 love it before?
00:20:54.560 I can only assume
00:20:55.500 it's because you,
00:20:57.120 it allowed you
00:20:57.840 to fantasize
00:20:58.480 about killing Christians.
00:21:03.420 But if you're going to say
00:21:04.660 that, oh, no,
00:21:05.380 the original scene
00:21:06.020 is just a cartoon,
00:21:06.960 it's a joke,
00:21:07.660 it's not, you know,
00:21:08.300 it's, it's, it's,
00:21:09.040 it's not,
00:21:09.420 there's nothing to it,
00:21:10.320 it's, don't worry about it.
00:21:12.300 If you're going to say that
00:21:13.140 about the original scene,
00:21:14.040 then how do you not
00:21:15.500 say that about the meme?
00:21:17.400 Couldn't the same excuse
00:21:18.700 be made for the meme?
00:21:19.680 Couldn't anyone say,
00:21:20.400 well, it's just a joke,
00:21:21.260 it's not anything serious,
00:21:22.140 no one's taking it seriously.
00:21:25.660 Seems to me,
00:21:26.400 you need to have
00:21:26.840 a consistent narrative,
00:21:28.900 a consistent,
00:21:29.400 a consistent approach.
00:21:35.560 All right,
00:21:36.860 so let's see what else here.
00:21:37.840 This was fun.
00:21:38.800 Look at this headline
00:21:39.440 from Forbes.
00:21:40.560 The headline says,
00:21:42.060 why Pakistan should be
00:21:43.380 on every solo female
00:21:44.860 traveler's bucket list.
00:21:47.040 Why Pakistan should be
00:21:49.020 on every solo female
00:21:50.080 traveler's bucket list.
00:21:51.280 I'm just waiting
00:21:52.080 for the follow-up of this,
00:21:53.380 like,
00:21:54.000 why a back alley
00:21:55.740 in West Baltimore
00:21:56.480 is a great place
00:21:57.300 for any solo female
00:21:58.360 to go camping.
00:22:00.240 Or maybe,
00:22:01.100 why the shark tank
00:22:03.320 at the aquarium
00:22:04.000 is a great place
00:22:04.900 to bathe your toddler.
00:22:07.420 Or maybe,
00:22:08.400 why the microwave
00:22:09.900 is a great place
00:22:10.880 to stick your head.
00:22:12.700 Just wonderful advice
00:22:13.820 from the media,
00:22:14.440 as always.
00:22:15.240 And the media
00:22:16.080 is so desperate
00:22:16.900 to be woke
00:22:17.580 that they're going
00:22:18.600 to encourage
00:22:18.960 a bunch of women
00:22:19.500 to go out
00:22:19.860 and get kidnapped
00:22:20.440 or imprisoned
00:22:21.520 or murdered
00:22:22.060 just to prove
00:22:23.180 how woke they are.
00:22:23.900 So that's wonderful.
00:22:26.320 Now,
00:22:26.640 this was kind of interesting.
00:22:27.560 I wanted to play this
00:22:27.980 for you really quick.
00:22:29.320 Here's Bernie Sanders
00:22:30.460 in an interview
00:22:31.520 trying to differentiate
00:22:32.700 himself from Elizabeth Warren.
00:22:35.080 Elizabeth Warren
00:22:35.680 has been a friend of mine
00:22:36.480 for some 25 years.
00:22:37.640 And I think she is
00:22:40.000 a very, very good senator.
00:22:42.100 But there are differences
00:22:43.000 between Elizabeth and myself.
00:22:44.500 Elizabeth, I think,
00:22:45.260 as you know,
00:22:45.680 has said that she is
00:22:46.380 a capitalist through her bones.
00:22:48.480 I'm not.
00:22:49.500 I think the situation today
00:22:50.780 that we face in this country
00:22:51.920 of the greed
00:22:53.040 and the corruption
00:22:53.860 that is existing
00:22:55.780 in Washington,
00:22:56.860 that is existing
00:22:57.680 at the corporate elite level,
00:23:00.820 where you have
00:23:01.460 massive amounts
00:23:02.220 of price-fixing
00:23:03.200 going on
00:23:03.760 in the drug companies,
00:23:04.580 where we're the only
00:23:05.180 major country on Earth
00:23:06.100 not to guarantee
00:23:07.040 health care
00:23:07.620 to all people.
00:23:08.780 Where we have right now
00:23:09.920 as we speak
00:23:10.660 in the fossil fuel industry,
00:23:12.920 you've got companies
00:23:13.460 making billions of dollars
00:23:14.620 a year in profit.
00:23:15.860 Doing what?
00:23:16.640 Oh, by the way,
00:23:17.400 they're destroying the planet.
00:23:18.940 All right.
00:23:19.560 And I think business
00:23:20.640 as usual
00:23:21.560 and doing it
00:23:22.820 the old-fashioned way
00:23:23.840 is not good enough.
00:23:25.080 It's not regulation.
00:23:26.020 Now, what we need
00:23:26.560 is, in fact,
00:23:27.300 I don't want to get people
00:23:28.080 too nervous.
00:23:28.820 We need a political revolution.
00:23:30.420 I am, I believe,
00:23:31.300 the only candidate
00:23:32.120 who's going to say
00:23:33.080 to the ruling class
00:23:34.020 of this country,
00:23:34.760 the corporate elite,
00:23:35.700 enough enough
00:23:36.320 with your greed
00:23:37.200 and with your corruption.
00:23:38.940 We need real change
00:23:39.680 in this country.
00:23:40.240 So you don't think
00:23:40.680 that's what Elizabeth Warren said?
00:23:41.660 Well, look,
00:23:42.580 Elizabeth is a friend of mine.
00:23:43.800 She will speak for herself.
00:23:44.900 I've just told you what I do.
00:23:45.800 But you've said
00:23:46.240 there are differences
00:23:46.900 and you just mentioned the label.
00:23:48.900 Well, I guess,
00:23:49.620 well, it's not a label.
00:23:50.740 I mean, Elizabeth considers herself,
00:23:52.860 if I got the quote correctly,
00:23:54.140 to be a capitalist
00:23:54.820 to her bones.
00:23:55.560 I don't.
00:23:56.380 And the reason I am not
00:23:58.000 is because I will not tolerate
00:23:59.360 for one second
00:24:00.020 the kind of greed
00:24:01.260 and corruption
00:24:01.960 and income
00:24:03.420 and wealth inequality
00:24:04.460 and so much suffering
00:24:06.080 that is going on
00:24:07.000 in this country today,
00:24:07.740 which is unnecessary.
00:24:09.480 I love how on the left
00:24:10.960 these days
00:24:11.480 you can accuse
00:24:13.240 your opponent
00:24:14.120 of supporting freedom
00:24:15.200 too much.
00:24:16.980 That's basically
00:24:17.720 the accusation, right?
00:24:19.780 Well, you know,
00:24:20.280 the difference between me
00:24:20.920 and her
00:24:21.220 is that she still
00:24:22.980 sort of believes
00:24:23.800 in liberty a little bit.
00:24:25.700 That's her problem.
00:24:26.560 Now, it used to be
00:24:28.840 that the left
00:24:29.500 gave lip service
00:24:31.700 to freedom.
00:24:33.200 They supported
00:24:34.620 and enjoyed
00:24:35.440 and loved freedom
00:24:37.320 in theory
00:24:38.020 but not in practice.
00:24:40.620 Now, they've kind of dropped,
00:24:42.280 they've torn off the mask,
00:24:44.100 they've dropped the act,
00:24:45.400 and they don't even support
00:24:46.820 freedom in theory anymore.
00:24:48.980 They're just anti-freedom.
00:24:51.500 And that's Bernie Sanders,
00:24:53.080 that's his whole campaign,
00:24:54.300 really.
00:24:54.620 That's his whole campaign
00:24:55.500 is saying, you know,
00:24:55.980 you don't need freedom
00:24:56.660 and liberty.
00:24:57.320 Who cares about that?
00:24:58.920 What you need
00:24:59.440 is the government
00:25:00.040 to take care of you.
00:25:01.740 My children,
00:25:02.600 that's what you need.
00:25:04.080 There, there.
00:25:04.740 Pat on the head.
00:25:06.580 Okay, one other thing
00:25:07.680 before we get to emails.
00:25:09.200 Media matters.
00:25:10.040 You know,
00:25:10.420 I love media matters
00:25:12.240 at the Daily,
00:25:12.800 here at the Daily Wire,
00:25:13.740 we all love media matters.
00:25:16.080 They do so much
00:25:17.100 to promote us
00:25:17.880 and for free.
00:25:19.460 You know,
00:25:20.160 all these companies
00:25:20.940 are stuck
00:25:23.420 sort of paying
00:25:24.460 for marketing
00:25:25.120 while we have
00:25:26.620 media matters
00:25:27.200 to market for us
00:25:28.020 for free.
00:25:29.600 And my favorite thing
00:25:30.540 that media matters does
00:25:31.220 is they'll watch
00:25:32.740 all the Daily Wire shows.
00:25:34.780 They're watching
00:25:35.500 this one right now,
00:25:36.340 so whoever you are watching,
00:25:38.300 whatever media matters,
00:25:39.640 Minion is watching,
00:25:40.600 I say hello
00:25:41.080 and thank you
00:25:41.800 for being here.
00:25:43.120 Welcome to the show.
00:25:44.980 Hope you found
00:25:45.600 something useful.
00:25:47.360 What I would recommend,
00:25:48.240 actually,
00:25:48.580 media matters guy,
00:25:49.400 is go,
00:25:50.240 I'm sure you've probably
00:25:51.100 already done it,
00:25:51.600 but my opening thing
00:25:53.300 about Columbus,
00:25:54.080 I'm sure there's stuff
00:25:54.740 you could find there.
00:25:55.600 Maybe cut a clip of that,
00:25:57.320 put it on,
00:25:58.200 accuse me of racism
00:25:59.040 or whatever,
00:25:59.720 whatever you're going to do,
00:26:01.700 xenophobia,
00:26:02.600 whatever your thing is.
00:26:04.500 Who knows,
00:26:05.080 maybe even homophobia.
00:26:06.060 Maybe there's a way
00:26:06.640 you can make that homophobic.
00:26:07.620 I don't know.
00:26:08.420 It's always fun to see
00:26:09.340 what you guys do with it.
00:26:10.360 I really enjoy it
00:26:11.300 because I enjoy,
00:26:12.640 I do the show
00:26:13.220 and,
00:26:14.380 you know,
00:26:16.040 I make my points
00:26:17.140 and then I love
00:26:19.040 to see
00:26:19.500 how the media matters,
00:26:22.620 they can take
00:26:23.960 something that I've said
00:26:24.840 and find a point
00:26:26.640 that I didn't make
00:26:27.620 and I just,
00:26:28.840 I love to see
00:26:29.360 how they do it.
00:26:30.520 Kind of putting the pieces
00:26:31.580 of the puzzle together.
00:26:32.800 So I'll look forward to that
00:26:33.960 because I know
00:26:36.780 what my show's about
00:26:37.600 but then I go
00:26:39.020 to media matters
00:26:39.700 and I find out
00:26:40.620 what they think
00:26:41.240 it was about.
00:26:41.860 So I can go and say,
00:26:42.540 what was my show
00:26:43.380 about today?
00:26:46.040 Anyway,
00:26:46.400 so last week
00:26:49.140 they were going
00:26:49.560 after Ben
00:26:50.280 because he had
00:26:51.020 the audacity
00:26:51.640 to say that
00:26:52.220 he would physically
00:26:52.800 defend his child
00:26:53.520 against forced
00:26:54.080 indoctrination
00:26:55.100 by the state.
00:26:56.700 A sentiment shared
00:26:57.680 by literally
00:26:58.340 any loving parent
00:26:59.540 in the country.
00:27:01.740 What he said
00:27:02.380 about that,
00:27:03.660 that he would
00:27:06.620 physically defend
00:27:07.260 his child
00:27:07.640 from forced
00:27:08.680 indoctrination,
00:27:09.580 that's,
00:27:10.160 any parent
00:27:10.740 would feel that way.
00:27:12.580 Now they also
00:27:13.140 came after me
00:27:14.060 and I thought
00:27:15.260 this was great.
00:27:15.880 Jason Campbell
00:27:16.780 at Media Matters
00:27:17.560 posted this clip
00:27:18.300 of my show
00:27:18.740 from Friday.
00:27:19.840 He posted it
00:27:20.540 because he thought
00:27:21.100 it was really bad
00:27:21.900 and controversial
00:27:22.580 and outrageous
00:27:23.680 and he thought
00:27:25.720 people would be
00:27:26.220 mad at me about it
00:27:27.160 and let me,
00:27:28.180 let me play,
00:27:28.860 I hope this isn't
00:27:29.500 too self-indulgent
00:27:30.240 but I want to play
00:27:30.880 for you the clip
00:27:32.000 of my show
00:27:32.880 that Jason Campbell
00:27:34.620 from Media Matters
00:27:35.340 put up.
00:27:35.760 Watch this.
00:27:37.000 It's almost like
00:27:37.560 these parents
00:27:38.100 are conditioning
00:27:38.720 their kids
00:27:39.300 to have gender
00:27:39.980 confusion
00:27:40.460 so that they,
00:27:41.760 the parents,
00:27:42.620 can parade
00:27:43.220 their children around
00:27:44.100 like fashion statements
00:27:45.380 saying,
00:27:46.960 look at me,
00:27:47.300 look how woke I am,
00:27:48.220 my own kid
00:27:48.800 is transgender,
00:27:49.600 look,
00:27:50.040 look!
00:27:52.720 It's horrifying,
00:27:53.660 it really is.
00:27:55.160 That young girl,
00:27:56.360 and she is a girl,
00:27:57.440 she is being abused.
00:27:59.900 This is psychological
00:28:01.000 and emotional abuse
00:28:02.280 of the worst kind
00:28:04.340 because you're
00:28:07.520 depriving her
00:28:08.460 of a childhood,
00:28:10.800 you're depriving her
00:28:11.620 of an identity,
00:28:13.400 you are forcing her
00:28:15.600 to have an identity crisis,
00:28:17.800 I just love that
00:28:20.260 because,
00:28:21.180 and if you go
00:28:21.640 and you,
00:28:21.940 if you go to Twitter
00:28:22.700 and you see that,
00:28:23.460 that post from,
00:28:25.560 from Jason Campbell,
00:28:27.040 you're going to find,
00:28:27.920 you read,
00:28:28.200 and you look at the comments,
00:28:29.440 most of the comments
00:28:30.360 are saying,
00:28:31.020 well,
00:28:31.180 yeah,
00:28:31.320 I agree with him.
00:28:32.960 Absolutely.
00:28:33.360 Because what I'm saying there
00:28:35.900 is just,
00:28:36.620 it's not any great insight,
00:28:38.680 there's nothing,
00:28:39.220 there's nothing terribly insightful
00:28:40.740 or smart about it,
00:28:43.380 it's just,
00:28:43.820 it's just really basic common sense
00:28:46.140 that any sane,
00:28:48.320 normal person agrees with.
00:28:51.940 That trying to impose
00:28:53.600 gender confusion
00:28:54.700 on your child
00:28:55.900 is abusive,
00:28:56.920 it is psychological
00:28:57.680 and emotional abuse.
00:28:59.940 I 100% stand by that,
00:29:01.800 I make absolutely
00:29:02.740 no apology for it at all.
00:29:05.300 I'll just continue
00:29:06.340 to reiterate the point.
00:29:08.700 And,
00:29:08.760 and what's more,
00:29:11.320 this is,
00:29:11.940 again,
00:29:12.300 any normal person agrees.
00:29:15.980 So you find how the left
00:29:17.660 is just,
00:29:18.500 they're getting to the point now
00:29:19.720 where they don't even understand
00:29:22.340 how normal people think.
00:29:25.420 Where they see a clip like that
00:29:27.320 and they think,
00:29:29.040 so here's the great thing,
00:29:30.860 is that media matters,
00:29:32.640 they didn't even
00:29:33.440 try to twist it
00:29:35.520 or usually they'll twist
00:29:36.760 what,
00:29:37.480 what one of us says
00:29:38.400 and they'll,
00:29:38.820 they'll try to,
00:29:39.600 like I said,
00:29:39.920 they'll try to find racism
00:29:41.500 or homophobia
00:29:42.180 or whatever
00:29:42.660 where it doesn't exist.
00:29:44.780 Um,
00:29:45.380 but in this case,
00:29:46.940 they thought that what I said
00:29:49.580 was so self-evidently terrible
00:29:52.200 that they didn't even have
00:29:53.920 to explain it.
00:29:54.740 They would just quote it,
00:29:55.820 put the clip up
00:29:56.580 in context,
00:29:58.460 I'll admit,
00:29:58.880 that's totally in context
00:30:00.020 and they thought
00:30:01.120 it's just self-explanatory.
00:30:02.620 Put it up
00:30:03.080 and people would see it
00:30:03.840 and think how horrible
00:30:04.700 that man is.
00:30:07.560 When really,
00:30:08.260 it's the opposite.
00:30:09.140 90% of people hear that
00:30:11.040 and think,
00:30:11.540 well, yeah,
00:30:11.800 of course,
00:30:12.380 that's how I feel.
00:30:16.260 They,
00:30:16.800 they,
00:30:17.180 they're going so far
00:30:18.320 off the cliff
00:30:18.940 that they,
00:30:19.440 they're not even capable
00:30:20.600 of understanding
00:30:21.720 how normal people think.
00:30:24.740 it is,
00:30:27.280 uh,
00:30:27.440 it's remarkable.
00:30:30.760 And now,
00:30:31.840 we've gotten to the point
00:30:33.460 now on the left
00:30:34.260 where,
00:30:34.640 um,
00:30:36.240 you know,
00:30:37.140 uh,
00:30:37.640 uh,
00:30:38.040 having a child
00:30:40.040 who,
00:30:40.560 a seven-year-old
00:30:41.380 transgender child,
00:30:42.460 that on the left now
00:30:43.460 is,
00:30:43.680 is this mainstream thing
00:30:45.380 where everyone's supposed
00:30:46.440 to accept it,
00:30:47.500 nobody can question it.
00:30:48.840 when,
00:30:50.660 of course,
00:30:50.900 10 years ago,
00:30:52.220 even people on the left
00:30:53.440 would have said,
00:30:54.000 well,
00:30:54.180 hold on a second.
00:30:55.000 This is,
00:30:55.500 that's,
00:30:55.960 hold on.
00:30:56.680 I mean,
00:30:56.880 they're kids.
00:30:57.440 Let's,
00:30:57.740 let's,
00:30:57.980 let's calm down
00:30:58.640 for a second here.
00:31:00.920 So you're taking this position
00:31:02.220 that 10 years ago,
00:31:03.120 even on the far left
00:31:04.760 would have seemed radical,
00:31:06.680 kind of absurd,
00:31:07.720 way too far,
00:31:08.620 and now it's mainstream.
00:31:09.820 And if you question it,
00:31:10.980 then you are
00:31:12.000 self-evidently a bigot
00:31:13.960 in their mind.
00:31:16.080 All right,
00:31:16.260 let's go to emails,
00:31:17.040 mattwalshow at gmail.com,
00:31:18.580 mattwalshow at gmail.com.
00:31:20.880 This is from Jessica,
00:31:21.860 says,
00:31:22.120 hi,
00:31:22.340 Matt,
00:31:22.480 I'm a big fan of your show.
00:31:23.840 I listen to it every day
00:31:24.900 while I'm at work.
00:31:26.060 I heard about a joke
00:31:26.840 that SNL made
00:31:27.580 about Pope Francis
00:31:28.360 saying that there were
00:31:29.560 going to be discussions
00:31:30.520 about lifting the celibacy
00:31:31.680 requirement for priests.
00:31:33.620 I looked up the article
00:31:34.660 and I believe it was
00:31:35.720 in response to a specific
00:31:36.880 situation in parts
00:31:37.760 of South Africa
00:31:38.400 where the church,
00:31:39.360 or South America,
00:31:40.080 rather,
00:31:40.560 where the church
00:31:41.020 is underrepresented.
00:31:42.740 As a Catholic,
00:31:43.520 I've often wondered
00:31:44.400 if allowing priests
00:31:45.240 to be married
00:31:46.140 and have families
00:31:46.780 would be such a big deal.
00:31:48.080 I feel like since
00:31:48.680 there's a priest shortage
00:31:49.460 in general,
00:31:50.260 not just in South America,
00:31:51.680 that allowing them
00:31:52.320 to be married
00:31:52.880 and have families
00:31:53.560 would make priesthood
00:31:54.260 a more realistic option
00:31:55.340 for people
00:31:55.760 and more men
00:31:56.780 would be interested
00:31:57.360 in becoming one.
00:31:58.820 Yeah, Jessica,
00:31:59.640 I find myself
00:32:00.200 more and more amenable
00:32:01.020 to this idea.
00:32:02.120 I think the desire
00:32:02.860 to have a family,
00:32:04.540 to have a wife,
00:32:06.180 is a good and healthy desire
00:32:07.700 for a man to have.
00:32:10.140 The church is ruling out
00:32:11.760 a lot of potentially
00:32:12.960 good priests
00:32:13.760 simply because
00:32:15.100 they have a good
00:32:15.880 and healthy desire.
00:32:17.920 And I think maybe
00:32:18.720 that's not a good strategy.
00:32:21.240 I think to remain celibate
00:32:22.860 your whole life
00:32:23.600 requires a superhuman
00:32:26.060 self-control.
00:32:27.700 And it's obvious
00:32:28.440 that a lot of priests
00:32:29.280 don't have that self-control.
00:32:32.660 But they're being set up
00:32:33.760 to fail,
00:32:34.600 you know,
00:32:34.900 they're being set up
00:32:35.440 to fail in service
00:32:36.560 of an extraordinary requirement
00:32:38.200 that in and of itself
00:32:39.380 is not really necessary
00:32:40.920 and maybe not even beneficial.
00:32:44.900 So you're setting up
00:32:45.860 all these priests
00:32:46.440 to fail
00:32:46.900 simply because
00:32:48.520 they can't manage
00:32:50.780 to,
00:32:52.600 what,
00:32:53.680 reject
00:32:54.260 the very natural
00:32:57.260 desire to have a family?
00:33:00.420 And that is what,
00:33:01.420 and that's what a lot of people
00:33:02.160 don't understand.
00:33:03.260 In the church,
00:33:04.200 the problems
00:33:06.660 in the priesthood,
00:33:09.100 you know,
00:33:11.140 when we talk about this,
00:33:12.160 now,
00:33:12.580 when we're talking about
00:33:14.160 the pedophilia
00:33:16.220 in the priesthood,
00:33:17.540 well,
00:33:18.880 with that,
00:33:19.580 getting rid of the
00:33:20.020 celibacy requirement,
00:33:20.840 that's not going to do
00:33:21.460 anything for that.
00:33:23.420 If you've got pedophiles
00:33:24.600 coming into the priesthood,
00:33:25.580 that's,
00:33:25.940 you know,
00:33:26.520 whatever the celibacy
00:33:27.360 requirement is,
00:33:28.040 that's,
00:33:28.520 you're not going to solve
00:33:29.640 that,
00:33:30.100 the pedophile problem.
00:33:31.160 And people always
00:33:31.720 point that out.
00:33:32.260 They say,
00:33:32.540 well,
00:33:32.640 that's,
00:33:32.940 you know,
00:33:33.300 the celibacy requirement
00:33:34.360 has nothing to do with it.
00:33:35.420 It's not going to solve
00:33:35.960 the problem.
00:33:36.580 Yeah,
00:33:36.760 it's not going to solve
00:33:37.440 that issue,
00:33:38.420 but that's been
00:33:39.380 the minority of cases.
00:33:43.480 The more common
00:33:45.680 and more widespread problem,
00:33:48.340 even if it doesn't get
00:33:49.000 media attention
00:33:49.640 because the media
00:33:50.100 doesn't really care about it,
00:33:51.620 but if you talk to any priest,
00:33:52.800 they'll tell you
00:33:53.220 that the more widespread issue
00:33:54.800 is just priests
00:33:56.920 who end up in
00:34:00.280 consensual relationships
00:34:02.220 with other adults,
00:34:03.760 men or women.
00:34:05.500 And that is a big issue
00:34:07.180 in the priesthood
00:34:07.680 across the board.
00:34:12.420 And it probably always has been
00:34:13.640 to a certain extent
00:34:14.280 because again,
00:34:15.040 when you're telling people
00:34:17.400 that they have to be celibate
00:34:18.320 their whole lives,
00:34:18.780 there's going to be a certain,
00:34:19.900 probably significant percentage
00:34:21.220 who just can't do it.
00:34:22.760 They can't live up to that.
00:34:24.920 But I just wonder
00:34:25.840 if this is creating
00:34:27.740 a lot of chaos
00:34:29.740 and turmoil
00:34:30.580 and everything
00:34:31.460 that isn't necessary.
00:34:33.940 And so maybe the church
00:34:35.740 could say,
00:34:37.200 yeah,
00:34:37.840 if you're a married man,
00:34:39.440 faithful to your wife,
00:34:42.620 you have a family,
00:34:44.340 sure,
00:34:44.840 we welcome you.
00:34:46.680 Maybe that's exactly
00:34:47.920 the kind of man
00:34:48.800 we want in the priesthood,
00:34:50.180 it turns out.
00:34:52.080 All right.
00:34:53.180 Let's go to,
00:34:54.800 from Nathan says,
00:34:55.720 Matt,
00:34:55.960 what did you think
00:34:56.380 of the new Breaking Bad movie?
00:34:57.680 Yeah,
00:34:57.820 El Camino,
00:34:58.480 the Breaking Bad movie
00:34:59.340 came out.
00:34:59.720 I know a lot of people
00:35:00.300 were disappointed in it.
00:35:01.420 It came out on Netflix
00:35:02.020 on Friday.
00:35:02.640 I really liked it.
00:35:03.460 I thought it was
00:35:04.120 a very good epilogue
00:35:05.260 to Breaking Bad series.
00:35:09.600 It didn't reinvent the wheel,
00:35:11.300 but it wasn't supposed to.
00:35:12.440 I enjoyed going back
00:35:13.660 and revisiting those characters.
00:35:15.440 I think Vince Gilligan
00:35:16.220 is a genius,
00:35:17.720 the writer of the show,
00:35:18.560 creator of the show.
00:35:21.280 To be able to go back
00:35:22.460 after, what,
00:35:22.920 five or six years
00:35:23.760 and reclaim,
00:35:25.540 you know,
00:35:25.700 kind of,
00:35:26.980 not just tell the,
00:35:28.280 not just go back
00:35:29.080 into that world,
00:35:29.800 but really capture
00:35:30.740 that world again.
00:35:32.660 I think a lot of people
00:35:34.740 couldn't do that.
00:35:35.640 And you see so often
00:35:37.000 where you have these shows
00:35:37.920 that are resurrected
00:35:38.620 or whatever
00:35:39.280 after many years
00:35:39.980 and they fail
00:35:41.280 to capture the feel
00:35:42.440 of the original show.
00:35:44.160 And in this case,
00:35:44.680 I think Gilligan
00:35:45.920 did a great job of that.
00:35:47.340 And so I liked it.
00:35:48.360 All right.
00:35:48.560 This is from Mitchell,
00:35:49.680 says,
00:35:49.920 Hi, Matt,
00:35:50.320 love the show
00:35:50.920 and seeing as though
00:35:51.880 you're a new father
00:35:52.580 once more.
00:35:53.580 I'm wondering
00:35:54.020 what your thoughts are
00:35:54.860 on spanking your children.
00:35:56.060 I'm 25
00:35:56.580 and not thinking
00:35:57.280 of having a child yet.
00:35:58.060 However,
00:35:58.660 I am torn on this topic
00:35:59.720 and hope that you
00:36:00.340 can shed some insight.
00:36:02.520 Yeah, Mitchell,
00:36:02.960 that's a great question.
00:36:03.700 So there are two,
00:36:04.480 two sort of
00:36:05.940 different questions here.
00:36:07.020 One is,
00:36:07.700 am I against spanking
00:36:08.740 in principle?
00:36:09.900 And the second is,
00:36:10.820 do I,
00:36:11.320 do I myself
00:36:12.300 choose to spank my kids?
00:36:14.100 The answer to the second one
00:36:15.340 is no,
00:36:15.820 I don't.
00:36:16.740 We don't spank.
00:36:17.720 But that doesn't
00:36:19.580 necessarily mean
00:36:20.480 that our answer
00:36:21.300 to the first question
00:36:23.340 is yes,
00:36:24.280 that we're against it
00:36:25.020 in principle.
00:36:26.840 Okay,
00:36:27.100 so,
00:36:28.060 so this is really
00:36:29.800 our thought process.
00:36:31.880 My,
00:36:31.960 well,
00:36:33.260 my wife and I
00:36:34.500 are on the same page,
00:36:35.240 but I'm not going to speak
00:36:35.800 for her,
00:36:36.160 so I'll just speak
00:36:36.940 for myself.
00:36:38.000 This is my thought process.
00:36:40.220 I don't spank
00:36:41.180 our kids
00:36:42.160 and I'll tell you
00:36:43.600 the reason.
00:36:45.160 I think that spanking
00:36:46.260 can be a valid,
00:36:47.920 legitimate,
00:36:49.720 constructive form
00:36:50.700 of discipline.
00:36:52.220 I also think
00:36:53.380 it can be abuse,
00:36:55.060 right?
00:36:55.800 And I think
00:36:56.480 we'd all agree,
00:36:57.280 right,
00:36:57.620 that,
00:36:57.920 I mean,
00:36:58.740 nobody thinks,
00:36:59.940 no decent person
00:37:00.860 thinks that parents
00:37:02.280 just have carte blanche
00:37:03.380 to hit their kids
00:37:04.320 whenever they want,
00:37:05.480 however they want,
00:37:06.200 for whatever reason,
00:37:06.960 in whatever way.
00:37:09.200 Obviously,
00:37:09.780 there is such a thing
00:37:10.580 as physical abuse.
00:37:12.660 No,
00:37:13.120 I don't think
00:37:13.500 that spanking
00:37:14.020 in principle
00:37:14.900 is physical abuse,
00:37:16.020 but I think
00:37:16.460 it can be.
00:37:17.520 And I think
00:37:17.880 the line
00:37:18.420 between constructive
00:37:19.380 discipline and abuse
00:37:20.520 is somewhat subtle
00:37:22.280 and that scares me
00:37:24.240 because,
00:37:24.760 again,
00:37:25.120 on one side
00:37:26.040 of that line
00:37:26.600 is constructive
00:37:27.300 discipline.
00:37:28.020 On the other side
00:37:28.940 is,
00:37:29.860 well,
00:37:30.140 you're physically
00:37:30.660 abusing your kid.
00:37:31.980 And so,
00:37:33.160 you know,
00:37:33.420 it can be
00:37:35.040 a somewhat fine line
00:37:36.340 sometimes,
00:37:37.860 but the fact
00:37:39.360 that
00:37:39.720 on one side
00:37:41.780 of that line
00:37:42.640 is something
00:37:43.180 so horrific,
00:37:44.160 like physical abuse
00:37:44.960 of a child,
00:37:46.460 that,
00:37:46.820 you know,
00:37:48.280 scares me
00:37:48.720 a little bit.
00:37:49.900 So here's
00:37:50.420 what I think
00:37:50.680 it comes down to.
00:37:51.260 If you're hitting
00:37:51.800 your child
00:37:52.300 in anger,
00:37:53.820 call it spanking
00:37:54.720 if you want,
00:37:55.400 but if you are
00:37:56.580 spanking your child
00:37:57.620 because you're pissed off
00:37:58.880 and you had a long day,
00:38:02.540 you're overwhelmed,
00:38:04.120 you're at the end
00:38:05.220 of your rope,
00:38:05.720 whatever,
00:38:07.560 that is physical abuse.
00:38:09.200 No question.
00:38:10.920 Now,
00:38:11.220 there's nothing wrong
00:38:11.840 with being angry
00:38:12.740 and being frustrated.
00:38:14.200 You had a long day.
00:38:14.980 You're at the end
00:38:15.320 of your rope.
00:38:15.720 All parents feel
00:38:16.680 like that sometimes.
00:38:17.420 I know that I do.
00:38:19.400 But
00:38:19.760 hitting your child
00:38:21.640 as a way
00:38:22.980 of communicating
00:38:23.660 your frustration
00:38:24.520 or letting off steam
00:38:26.840 is physical abuse,
00:38:29.780 obviously.
00:38:30.520 There's no way around it.
00:38:32.800 My concern,
00:38:33.720 my worry,
00:38:34.340 is that
00:38:34.840 I think a lot
00:38:36.600 of people
00:38:36.920 who spank their kids
00:38:37.940 spank them
00:38:39.020 like that
00:38:39.740 in anger
00:38:41.180 that's even
00:38:45.220 the kind of spanking
00:38:45.960 and this is not
00:38:47.140 necessarily
00:38:47.960 a fair sample,
00:38:49.140 but the kind of spanking
00:38:50.460 that you see
00:38:50.960 in public sometimes
00:38:51.820 where a mother
00:38:54.120 is kind of
00:38:55.680 losing her temper
00:38:56.840 at the grocery store
00:38:57.620 and swatting the kid
00:38:58.480 or whatever.
00:38:59.040 We've all seen
00:38:59.720 scenes like that.
00:39:01.920 That's almost
00:39:02.560 always in anger.
00:39:05.940 Now,
00:39:06.200 it's not necessarily,
00:39:07.380 like I said,
00:39:07.660 it's not a fair sampling
00:39:08.660 because the people
00:39:09.640 who don't spank
00:39:10.800 in anger
00:39:11.160 are by definition
00:39:12.920 not doing it in public
00:39:13.940 so we don't really
00:39:14.500 see that happening.
00:39:17.260 But
00:39:17.500 I often hear people
00:39:20.340 reminiscing
00:39:21.120 fondly
00:39:22.580 about their own
00:39:23.640 physical abuse
00:39:24.360 as a kid.
00:39:24.900 It's sort of disturbing.
00:39:26.280 And what it tells me
00:39:27.020 is that they're probably
00:39:28.080 doing the same thing
00:39:29.020 to their kids
00:39:29.600 if they think of it
00:39:31.980 in such a positive way
00:39:33.760 what happened to them.
00:39:34.880 But, you know,
00:39:36.460 you'll hear people
00:39:37.220 it's like when
00:39:38.160 there's a story
00:39:39.120 about a kid
00:39:39.800 behaving terribly
00:39:40.720 at school
00:39:41.340 and you'll hear
00:39:43.600 someone say
00:39:44.140 something like,
00:39:44.940 oh man,
00:39:45.680 you know,
00:39:45.840 when I was a kid
00:39:46.600 if I did that
00:39:47.720 when I got home
00:39:48.360 my dad would
00:39:49.000 have lost it
00:39:49.900 and beat the hell
00:39:50.500 out of me.
00:39:52.240 Okay,
00:39:52.700 so your dad
00:39:53.440 would have abused you
00:39:54.380 is what you're saying.
00:39:55.760 Your dad
00:39:56.460 would have gotten angry
00:39:57.500 and taken out
00:39:58.340 his frustration
00:39:59.100 by beating up
00:40:00.040 a child.
00:40:01.160 So you realize
00:40:02.040 that's bad,
00:40:02.800 right?
00:40:03.820 You know,
00:40:04.380 you realize
00:40:04.960 that your dad
00:40:06.100 abused you.
00:40:06.880 That's abuse.
00:40:07.540 That's not okay.
00:40:10.660 It's,
00:40:11.800 to beat up a child
00:40:12.800 because you're pissed off
00:40:13.760 is cowardly
00:40:14.720 and wrong
00:40:15.440 and it's just,
00:40:16.140 that's not okay.
00:40:18.160 So maybe it's just
00:40:19.000 a figure of speech
00:40:19.820 or something
00:40:20.460 but the way people
00:40:22.380 sometimes talk about
00:40:23.600 the discipline
00:40:25.000 that they got
00:40:25.660 when they were kids,
00:40:27.460 hearing the story,
00:40:28.680 I think as a parent
00:40:29.920 that is actually horrible.
00:40:31.200 I would never do that
00:40:31.940 to my kid.
00:40:35.140 Now,
00:40:35.660 I mean,
00:40:37.480 even a phrase like,
00:40:38.440 and you hear this,
00:40:38.980 like,
00:40:39.180 beat the hell out.
00:40:39.780 Oh,
00:40:39.920 my dad would have
00:40:40.380 beat the hell out.
00:40:41.460 Beat the hell out of you?
00:40:42.700 That's,
00:40:43.060 again,
00:40:43.380 that's not,
00:40:44.140 no,
00:40:44.420 that's not good.
00:40:47.100 That was your dad
00:40:47.960 being a coward
00:40:48.760 if that's really
00:40:50.160 what he did.
00:40:52.360 I mean,
00:40:52.600 what,
00:40:52.780 beat the hell
00:40:53.280 out of a seven-year-old?
00:40:56.320 And,
00:40:56.560 and you're putting that,
00:40:58.040 that's what,
00:40:58.500 that's a manly form
00:40:59.940 of being a parent?
00:41:02.200 I mean,
00:41:02.760 control your emotions,
00:41:03.840 be a man,
00:41:04.540 control yourself.
00:41:06.040 That's what you want
00:41:06.820 from your own kids.
00:41:09.340 What do we tell
00:41:10.000 our own kids all the time?
00:41:11.060 Use your words,
00:41:12.060 control yourself.
00:41:13.780 It's not okay
00:41:14.500 to get mad
00:41:14.960 and hit somebody.
00:41:15.980 I'm telling my own,
00:41:16.920 my own six-year-old son
00:41:17.840 this all the time
00:41:18.640 because he's a child
00:41:19.880 and he has a lot of aggression.
00:41:20.980 He doesn't know
00:41:21.300 how to communicate it.
00:41:22.500 And so he'll get mad
00:41:23.280 and he'll hit somebody.
00:41:24.880 And so I'm always telling him,
00:41:26.200 that's not okay.
00:41:27.080 You do not express
00:41:28.340 your anger that way.
00:41:29.620 So how could I turn around
00:41:31.320 and do it
00:41:31.800 if I'm telling him
00:41:32.460 all the time
00:41:33.000 not to do it?
00:41:35.240 Now,
00:41:35.840 on the other hand,
00:41:37.840 not all spanking
00:41:40.320 is like that.
00:41:41.640 I think there is
00:41:42.500 a healthy form of it.
00:41:43.960 The healthy form
00:41:44.920 is one
00:41:45.560 completely devoid
00:41:46.900 of anger.
00:41:47.400 I think this is so important.
00:41:49.100 There is no anger
00:41:50.400 in it at all.
00:41:52.040 You're spanking
00:41:52.800 your child
00:41:53.400 because that is
00:41:54.120 the penalty
00:41:54.600 and you're taking
00:41:56.080 a very business-like
00:41:57.100 approach
00:41:57.600 and you're saying,
00:41:59.820 okay,
00:42:00.180 here's what you did.
00:42:01.740 Here's the penalty.
00:42:03.060 And now I'm going
00:42:03.720 to dole out that penalty.
00:42:05.460 You're not angry.
00:42:06.600 You're not beating
00:42:07.200 the hell out of.
00:42:08.120 You're not anything like that.
00:42:09.080 It's just you are
00:42:10.440 giving the child
00:42:12.820 the penalty
00:42:13.360 and you are in control
00:42:15.640 of your emotions
00:42:16.300 the whole time.
00:42:17.180 I think that kind
00:42:18.060 of spanking is fine
00:42:18.980 and that's fine parenting.
00:42:20.720 That's good parenting.
00:42:21.820 And I know that there are
00:42:22.700 parents who spank that way
00:42:23.780 and I say about that
00:42:25.820 that, you know,
00:42:26.720 great.
00:42:27.880 We don't do it
00:42:28.740 in our family
00:42:29.280 because it's not right
00:42:30.260 for us,
00:42:30.720 I don't think.
00:42:31.600 But I think that
00:42:33.200 if that's what you do,
00:42:34.920 fine.
00:42:36.600 But I just,
00:42:37.960 you know,
00:42:38.260 I think it's so important
00:42:39.140 to emphasize that
00:42:40.000 there cannot be
00:42:43.000 any emotion
00:42:43.680 or anger in it.
00:42:50.320 And,
00:42:50.980 but that's the problem
00:42:52.940 is that we,
00:42:53.480 we naturally get
00:42:54.720 angry at our kids
00:42:56.000 and parenting,
00:42:57.440 it can be a very
00:42:58.460 emotional thing
00:42:59.420 a lot of the time.
00:43:02.320 Not just because
00:43:03.080 you're angry at your kid,
00:43:04.020 but because you're,
00:43:04.860 you love your kid,
00:43:05.640 you're,
00:43:06.580 there's a lot of frustration.
00:43:07.820 You just,
00:43:08.140 you want your,
00:43:08.780 you know,
00:43:08.940 you just,
00:43:09.460 parenting is just
00:43:11.400 a jumble of emotion
00:43:12.240 sometimes
00:43:12.640 and it's hard
00:43:13.140 to sort through it.
00:43:13.800 so I don't know
00:43:17.040 to put those
00:43:19.840 emotions totally
00:43:20.860 to the side
00:43:21.600 and administer
00:43:22.200 a punishment like that.
00:43:23.640 Like,
00:43:24.080 as I said,
00:43:24.420 we just don't do it,
00:43:25.400 but
00:43:25.680 can that be difficult
00:43:30.580 sometimes?
00:43:30.920 I don't know.
00:43:33.280 I just,
00:43:34.080 it worries me
00:43:34.960 that again,
00:43:35.500 the way people
00:43:35.980 talk about spanking
00:43:37.080 often,
00:43:38.180 the way they talk
00:43:39.840 about it,
00:43:40.020 the way they describe it,
00:43:40.980 either their own
00:43:41.540 experience of it
00:43:42.340 when they were kids
00:43:42.960 or how they dole it out
00:43:44.000 now as parents,
00:43:45.820 from the way it sounds,
00:43:47.120 it sounds an awful lot
00:43:48.200 like abuse
00:43:48.740 and that,
00:43:49.600 that concerns me.
00:43:50.600 So,
00:43:51.260 that's what I would say.
00:43:56.120 All right,
00:43:56.720 we'll leave it there.
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