Ep. 355 - Our Collective Plunge Into Madness
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In this episode, we continue our look at the case of the Younger case, where a mother claimed that her son James Younger was actually a girl named Luna, and that he should be given custody of his twin brother, James Jr., who is also a girl.
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You know, on the plus side, we are giving historians and anthropologists of the future
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a lot to do. They're going to have a very interesting time of it as they discuss and
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debate the question of when exactly did the once great American civilization of those ancient times
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go insane? And why did it happen? And how? And I can only imagine a thousand years from now,
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500 years from now, what conclusions they'll draw about that. As an American citizen myself
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in the present day, actually bearing witness to the collapse of sanity and reason in real time,
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just as we all are, I'm not sure that I can answer those questions. And I'm watching it happen.
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But perhaps hindsight will lend a little bit of clarity for them. What I do know is that this
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case we've been talking about this week, the case of James Younger, I think will be viewed as a,
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in the future as a seminal moment in our collective plunge into madness. It may be seen as,
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at least from a legal standpoint, the point of no return, the crossing of some sort of Rubicon.
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Now, I want to talk a little more about this case today because if the mass media isn't going to
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cover it, which they aren't, then that's all the more reason for me to continue to talk about it.
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In fact, today I want to talk about both of the stories that the mass media has been ignoring
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this week. And I've covered both of them already, but I want to continue those conversations.
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But first, just to review, as we talk about this James Younger case,
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if you didn't catch the show yesterday, just a quick review of what's going on. A man named
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Jeff Younger has been locked in this bitter court battle with his ex-wife, Ann Georgilis.
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Despite being a medical professional herself, a pediatrician of all things, God help us,
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she, and presumably therefore someone who understands basic facts about human biology
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and child psychology, Georgilis got it into her apparently deranged head that her son James
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is really a girl named Luna. And there's an interesting fact about that name. I'll get to
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it in a little bit. The factors that convince Georgilis that her son is really her daughter
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include, but are not limited to, his affinity for the movie Frozen and his request to get
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a girl toy from McDonald's. She also says that he started expressing an interest in wearing
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girls' clothing. But Jeff Younger has explained in multiple interviews that if James, the son,
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ever had any desire or does have any desire to wear a girl clothing sometimes, it's only because
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his mother started putting him in dresses and painting his nails and dressing him up essentially
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like a drag queen when he was three years old. Now, Jeff also claims that other methods of
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manipulation were used, some pretty insidious methods according to him, including he says,
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for example, when the child was three years old, he would be locked in his room by his mother
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in timeout and told that the monsters only eat little boys. Jeff also speculates that Georgilis
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would withhold affection from the child unless he was wearing girl clothes, which is another way of
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manipulating and getting James to, quote, want to dress in girl clothes. So the court case revolved
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around Jeff's efforts to rescue his sons, James and his twin brother. There's another boy involved in
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this from the abuse of this sick and twisted woman. However, the decision was passed down yesterday,
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as we talked about the court ruled against the father, virtually all control of the child and
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all decisions were handed over to the mother. Jeff brought this case trying to get sole custody of
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the kids so that he could prevent this transitioning into a girl that is in the process of happening right
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now. So the jury looked at it and they said, yeah, you know what? We are going to give sole custody to
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somebody, but not you. We're going to give it to the mom so that the kid can become a girl. And now
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she is free to continue the, quote, social transition of James into a girl, a process that is well underway
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already as he goes by Luna and, and wears a girl clothing and poses as a girl at school and so on.
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And eventually she can, and presumably will start James on drugs to chemically castrate him.
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In fact, she, she did say in court that now she was very careful not to say that, yeah, we're
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definitely going to do this right away because she knows how that sounds. It sounds grotesque
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and barbaric, which it is, but she did indicate that sure in the future, that is something that
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we will explore that could happen in the future. And I would say, it seems pretty clear to me that
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if she has sole custody of the kid, it's going to happen. That's the direction that this is headed.
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You start the social, the social transition means you're dressing them as a girl. You're
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pretending as a girl, you're calling them a girl. You're in other words, is another word for
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brainwashing, uh, conditioning. You might better call it social conditioning rather than social
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transitioning. And then once you've done that, the next step in the process is you start doing
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the drugs, puberty blockers, and then you give them the hormone drugs, the estrogen and so on.
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All right. Um, now it should be noted that, and this has been a point of contention in the case that
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Jeff, the father says that when he is with the boy, he, the boy expresses no interest in being
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a girl, doesn't want to wear a girl clothing or anything. He refuses to wear a girl clothes.
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That's, that's what he says. The mother claims the opposite and says that, no, no, no, no. When,
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when Luna, uh, comes back to me, she quote unquote is, is relieved to return to her quote unquote
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identity as a girl. Now, I think both claims are probably true. In a sense, the poor boy realizes
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that it pleases his mother for him to be Luna. And so he wants to play that role for her.
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And anyway, in any case, the question of how he really identifies is irrelevant. The point is that
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James is a boy, plain and simple, whatever confusion he is suffering from confusion that has
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been painstakingly planted in his head by his mother, his mother, who, in my opinion, should go
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to prison just as every adult that is involved in this kind of thing, including the doctors and
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everybody else who is involved in this sort of abusive children should all go to prison. And they
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would in a sane world, but we don't live in a sane world, but that confusion could be easily alleviated.
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Um, at most through counseling and therapy, you probably wouldn't even need that.
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When this child allegedly first started claiming he was a girl at three years old,
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which is when all this started, all you would have had to do is say, oh, no, no, you're not a girl.
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You're a boy. And you know something in a week, he'd be over it. You know, it's a, in a week,
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he'd be past that phase if you responded that way. But if you are a maniac and a three-year-old
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comes to you and says, I'm a girl and you go, well, well, oh my goodness, he must be a,
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she must be a girl then says he's a girl. It must be a girl. If you respond that way,
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what a coincidence, the child is going to persist in that delusion. And they're going to become more
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and more confused as time goes on. Um, now the jury has decided, as I said, to give Georgia
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list full custody. We still don't have a full verdict from the judge though. There are many
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related issues to be ruled on. And I believe that verdict is going to, she's going to, that decision
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will be made, will be announced tomorrow. There's still, I think there's still maybe some hope.
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Um, hopefully the outcry from the sane and rational and decent people of America,
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an outcry that has really been ramped up this week. Thankfully, maybe that will have some effect.
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Maybe it will have some influence and it might help the judge to see the light on this issue.
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I'm honestly, I'm, I'm not very hopeful about that. I doubt that that will be the result,
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but we can, we can always pray and hope and continue to raise awareness about this issue for
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the next day before the final decision is made. What I did want to do, I wanted to answer a few
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objections I've heard from people about how people like myself are talking about this case.
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There are three main objections from what I can tell. Um, the first is easy to deal with.
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I've got several emails saying that, um, I'm giving a one-sided version of the case
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when actually the father is, is far from perfect himself. And what is then brought up our court
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documents showing that one, the father was accused of lying about his income and his work history
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to his wife before they got married. And two, that, uh, the father was accused of assault.
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Now, as for the first, the father, Jeff has an explanation for what the wife and says are lies
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he told before they got married. I don't know who's right and who's wrong, or if it's something
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in the middle, usually with these things, it is regardless though, who gives a damn? None of this
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has any bearing on the case whatsoever. And none of it makes him an unfit father or justifies him losing
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custody. And certainly none of it means that his son is really a girl. And that's the main point
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here. Now you might say, well, it makes him unreliable. So you can't take his version of
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events at face value. My answer to that is we don't need to, you don't need to take anyone's
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version of events at face value. The basic facts are not in dispute. James is a biological boy. He is
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seven. And for the last several years, at least his mother has been claiming that he's a girl and his
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mother now wants to transition him into a girl. That's not being disputed by anybody. Everyone
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agrees on that. And that's all we need to know. We don't need to know anything else.
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We do know a lot more, which only vindicates the father, in my opinion, but we don't really even
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need to know any of that. These basic facts tell you basically everything you know. And then as for
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the alleged assault, Jeff apparently was accused of assaulting his wife in late 2017. This is well after
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the marriage ended, and this is in the midst of all this stuff with his wife trying to turn the kid
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into a girl. He was acquitted of the assault. So there's no reason to say anything else about that. But
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again, that accusation, he was acquitted of it. That has no bearing on this whatsoever.
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Now, then there's the third point. Defenders of the mom in this case will insist, once they get
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past trying to discredit the father with accusations that are certainly far from confirmed and I think
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have largely been debunked, but are also completely irrelevant to this case, defenders of the mom will
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next go to saying, well, no, the mom is right. She's not forcing James to be a girl because he
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really is a girl. And we know that he's really a girl because he really does want to wear girl clothes
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and he really does want to identify as a girl and so on. Now, let me read a thread, just to give you
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an example of this line of argumentation. I want to read a thread to you from a guy named Barry Deutsch
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on Twitter as he makes this case and provides whatever evidence he can to show that, no, the
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mother is actually right. And there is, as he puts it, there's a panic on the right about this and the
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panic is completely off base. So let me give you, this is, this is, this is the attempt to vindicate
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the mother. Okay. It says a thread on the save James Younger panic on the right. They're claiming
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that James Younger, as they insist on calling Luna, wants to be a boy and her evil mother is forcing
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her to identify as a girl and wear a girl clothing. That's not what a CPS investigation
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found. What I'm posting here are screenshots of the CPS investigators testimony at trial
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with no parent present. Luna says she's a girl and denies that anyone's making her be a girl.
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She also says she's afraid of her dad because he won't let her wear a girl clothes. That's why
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quote unquote, she is afraid not because there's any abuse or anything going on, but according to this
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claim, it's because the boy wants to wear a girl clothes and the dad won't let him.
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Continues. The CPS investigator also interviewed Luna's teacher. Luna's teacher confirmed what Luna
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says. Luna identifies as a girl and the teacher doesn't believe anyone's pressuring Luna to do that.
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The CPS investigator also interviewed Luna's twin brother, Luke. Actually, the twin's brother's name
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is Jude, not Luke. Jude confirms Luna's story. Luna has always identified as a girl. Their dad forces
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Luna to dress as a boy, which makes Luna sad. In short, the CPS investigator found absolutely no
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evidence that Luna's mom is forcing Luna to wear girl clothes or to use the name Luna. But the CPS,
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and we'll get to that name thing in a second, as I said, because it's very, it's actually, there's,
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there's something very, there's a very important detail about this name that I'm going to get to.
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The CPS investigator found evidence, uh, Luna's dad is forcing her to wear boy clothes. You can read
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the transcript. Um, okay. That's, that's basically it. So there's, there are all the facts laid out
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that are supposed to vindicate the mother. This is the best anyone can do. Essentially, the argument is
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that what the mother is doing is not abuse and the jury's decision is not wrong.
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And all of this is perfectly fine because the boy actually is a girl. Do you see how insane this is?
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I hope you do. He's not a girl. He's just simply not factually, objectively, scientifically,
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he is not a girl. So to dress him like one, to claim he is one, to have him live as one,
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to facilitate his transition into one is crazy, is abusive, is deranged, is evil.
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I don't give a damn whether the seven-year-old boy really says he wants to wear dresses or not.
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It's clear from court documents and from all reports that he sometimes says he wants to,
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and sometimes says he doesn't. He's confused. Why is he confused? Because he's a child.
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And because his mother has been claiming he's a girl since he was three. Of course he's confused.
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Of course he's going to say he wants to wear dresses and so on. All of that is irrelevant.
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He's a child who doesn't know what's going on. And as I will point out, for the 40 millionth time,
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he doesn't know what a girl is. He literally doesn't know what he's saying.
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He can't possibly identify as a girl because he doesn't know what that is. You can't identify as
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something when you don't know what it is. This all started when he was three years old. Again,
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that's not under dispute. You heard from the brother saying, oh, he's always identified as a
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girl. Well, what the brother means is, for as long as I can remember, this has been going on.
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Which makes sense because generally you start forming memories when you're three years old.
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And the mother says, oh, he first started saying he was a girl when he was three.
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Three. Three years old, you lunatic. Three years old. Do you know what a three-year-old knows about
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being a girl? Nothing. Nothing. Not a single thing. Nothing. Now, even if a three-year-old did know
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something about being a girl, the biological reality would still remain. So that even if a
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child that young did actually have a substantive understanding of biological sex so as to make this
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choice, it still wouldn't matter because you can't choose your sex. It's impossible. But this is
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doubly insane because a child at three years old has no clue what that means. I have a three-year-old.
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Okay? And I've had two other three-year-olds who are now six. It's just, if you've ever spent any
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time around a three-year-old, particularly if you've ever been a parent of a three-year-old,
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So a three-year-old says, I'm a girl. All you have to follow up with is, what's that? What do you
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mean? They don't mean anything. At most, what they mean is, I like pretty pink things.
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Great. No problem. Three-year-olds can like pretty pink things. Nothing wrong with that.
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The suggestion that that actually means that this boy at three years old is a girl and has somehow
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mystically recognized this inner truth of this girl that is magically trapped inside the shell of
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their boy body. You have educated people who think this way.
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Now, I mentioned the thing about the name. Here's an interesting tidbit from the Texan.
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And this is a publication down in Texas where this is happening. They've been on top of this case.
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A lot of great information. When James first started
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identifying as a girl, do you know what name he wanted
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for himself? He goes by Luna now, according to the mom.
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But it wasn't Luna originally. You know what it was?
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That's the name he wanted. I actually think this is
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maybe one of the most important facts that came out in this case.
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He wanted to be called Starfire. And any parents of children might know that Starfire is a cartoon
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character from the show Teen Titans Go. My kids don't watch that show, so I don't know.
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Okay. He wanted his name to be Starfire, cartoon character from a cartoon show.
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It tells you that James was literally identifying as a cartoon character
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My sons have identified as many fictional characters
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My, I know it's a, you hear this as a classic response to all this madness
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when someone says, oh, my son identifies as a dinosaur.
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And that might be a cliched response at this point,
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also thinks that he's a, he thinks that he's Rexy,
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Well, let's really think about this for a second.
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When my three-year-old son goes around saying he's a T-Rex,
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and three-year-olds are not sophisticated enough for that.
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Three-year-olds are incapable of telling a real lie.
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So when my three-year-old says that he's a T-Rex,
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that he is really a T-Rex trapped inside a human body.
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now we've got a mental disorder on our hands of some kind.
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where they can really be convinced at some level
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when they say that they're the opposite gender?